WEBVTT - Alessia Cara 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.760 This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.360 can visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:06.880 while you're there. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:08.760 Hi, I'm Nora Jones. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.480 Today I'm playing along with Alessia Kara. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:21.320 I'm just playing long weezy, am just playing lone weezy. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:22.880 Hi. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:24.040 Welcome to the show. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.560 Welcome to the show. I'm Nora and this is Sarah Oda. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:29.560 That's me always. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:34.040 Today we're joined by the incredible Alessia Kara. Unlike Brooke Dubeck, 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:36.240 we got a call back. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.519 Oh boy, I was gonna say that's another two reference. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.880 If you know, you know you finally watched it. Yes, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:43.279 I knew you would love it. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.600 I love that she came back in in the second season. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.560 I know it's also she's. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.360 A Grammy winning singer songwriter with a beautiful, soulful voice 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.440 and very honest lyrics. Her debut album, No It All 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.360 came out in twenty fifteen, and she's just put out 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.840 her new album, which is her fourth album, called Love 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.920 Hyperbole came out earlier this year and it's a really 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.640 beautiful record, so check that out. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.319 She's just a delight and she's got such an amazing 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.720 voice and was super fun to hang with. So I 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.800 hope you enjoyed this episode. We had a lot of 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.640 fun making it. And here she is, Alesia Kara. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.520 Well, thank you for coming, thank you, thanks for having me. 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.880 So where do you live? I live in Toronto? Is 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:30.959 that where you're from? 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.120 Yeah? I was born and raised in a suburb of Toronto, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.720 and then I moved to the city about six years ago. Okay, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.240 so yeah, I've been in the city for a while. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:41.960 I love it. I think it's so much fun. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.760 I always thought that I wanted to live, like in 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.880 some sort of rural area. I never thought I was 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.320 a city girl until I moved, and I'm. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:50.920 Like, I love it. Well, you're young too. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.320 It has the good energy and yeah, a lot of 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:54.000 things to do. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.040 It's such a great city. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.400 I was wondering if you wanted to try a song 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.480 from your new album that would be lovely you Yeah, yeah, 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:02.680 that would be beautiful and. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:03.840 I can't wait to do this if you. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.600 I was thinking this song fire might be a good 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.840 one to start with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.200 Pick me up and take me home. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:39.600 Reaching through musking and boom change in my DNA inspired 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:46.040 minute by minute. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.280 All the time, I. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:56.240 Always falling bomb stay, but you're rushing up brain like 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:57.360 it's nothing. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.480 I'm jumping and have stuff. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:13.240 Who I'm on fire, I'm on fire. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:29.880 Who I'm on fire? Who I'm on fire? 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:49.040 Pick me up and send me free Golden boy and 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:57.040 dirty jeans painting in your life. Wondered why I couldn't 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:06.160 see it. Hey all the time stoodas Oh it's fine 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:11.920 and I'm mustay, but your person I brain. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.320 Back, it's nothing. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:25.160 I'm jumping the head first. Who I'm on fire? Who 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:29.320 I'm on fire? 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:52.720 Who I'm on five? I'm on fire. I want to 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:53.880 be with you. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:05:01.800 Anywhere else is too fa. I want to be like 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:09.520 you are. Bewake you are, beware you are. I want 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:16.840 to take your places. I want to keep you saving. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.960 I want to be like you are. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.640 Bewg you be, make you. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:45.320 I'm on fire, I'm lo fat, I'm on fam time 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:46.400 on fire. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:06:10.279 Oh I'm on fire, I'm on fa. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:20.240 Oh that was awesome. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.320 Oh my gosh, that was beautiful. That thing you did, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.039 that little jazz spin you put on that break was 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:26.840 so good. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:31.080 Oh good. I loved your voice sounds so pretty. Oh 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.640 thank you? Yeah, an incredible day. That was so amazing beautiful. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:35.760 I thought that was great. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:36.440 Yeah, me too. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:37.000 I love it. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.520 It was like free and fun and feeling each other out. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.159 That was that was great. So that's from the new album. Yes, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.840 it's from the new album. It was like, it's it's 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.880 funny because like how how we are kind of playing 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.680 it now is like how it was written, which is 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.039 very rare for me. I don't typically like write in 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.200 the room with a bunch of people were intimate, you mean, yeah, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:55.599 I kind of just do it on my own. I 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.160 get very I guess shy to like just like sing 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.760 gibberish out into the room. It's very with other people 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:01.360 with other people. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.080 Yeah, the gibbers singing thing is a real thing because 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.240 it's a really good way to get stuff and sort 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.440 of get a placeholder. But I imagine it would be 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:12.960 hard to do in a room full of more than 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.120 one person. Oh yeah, because I don't really do that either. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.640 But with one person, if I'm writing, I don't mind 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.160 doing it really. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.440 So if there's another person there, it doesn't. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.280 If if it's someone i'm writing with, I'm probably pretty 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.400 comfortable with them, but I wouldn't want to probably do 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:28.120 it with a stranger. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.320 Yeah, you know, no, it's strange. I mean, I can 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.120 very like doing it just in front of anyone. Honestly, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.240 I'm like super shy that way. But I think this 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.560 album was the first time I kind of let go 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.120 of those inhibitions and just like tried things because I 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.760 do feel like you get good stuff when you know 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.080 you maybe have another ear to tell you, like, wait, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.600 you did something that was cool. You know that you 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.200 might think is kind of like I like that. Yeah, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.880 that's like having a secretary, yes exactly, take her, yes exactly. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.960 So I've actually found it to be really beneficial for 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.200 my writing process. So that was like the first song 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.520 we did that was done in that way. And who 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.920 was in the room for this one This producer and 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.960 great friend of mine who I've worked with for many 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.520 albums now, John Levine. He's also another Canadian who lives 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.000 in La so I was in La with him in 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:15.280 his home studio, and another producer named Jake Tory, who 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.360 are great. They're both great composers as well. So we, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.360 you know, put a mic in the middle of the room. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.880 I believe it was John on keys, Jake on drums, 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.640 and then just me on the mic, and we just 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.480 kept looping those chords and that little drum loop and 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.840 until the song was done, until I just fell out. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.720 It was so fun to do it that that's great 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:35.600 and it's inspiring. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.199 You're just bouncing off of each other and yeah, yeah, 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.679 I think that's a way that I didn't really know 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.880 how to write like that until maybe ten or fifteen 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.040 years ago, and it was super freeing. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:47.439 M m. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.600 Yeah, yeah, I've enjoyed it. It's been nice. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.800 Yeah. Did you start writing songs when you were young? 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.320 I mean yes and no. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.679 I think I kind of did it like for fun 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.920 in more of like a jokey way. When I was 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.000 kid like, I would write kind of funnier, like stupid 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.000 songs just for myself. And then as I started getting older, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.599 I wrote a lot of poetry and short stories. I 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.560 would write stories all the time, and then it wasn't 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.040 until my teen years that I started like figuring out 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.840 how to turn those like short stories or poems like 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.800 into melody and rhythm. Yeah, So it was kind of 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.840 like later in life. It was always there, like writing 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.920 was always a part of my life in some way, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.320 but I never really started, you know, turning it into 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.520 like proper music until my mid teens, I would say. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.840 To me, that's young. I guess I really that's older. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.600 Well, I was much older. I was like twenty when 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.920 I wrote my first Well I wrote a couple songs 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.760 in high school, but I was twenty when I really 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:43.439 started getting into writing. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.000 Okay, yeah, that's kind of that feels old to me really, yeah, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.200 because I feel like so many people that I speak to, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:50.640 like a lot of artists that you hear that, like, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.680 I've been writing songs since I was like one, Yeah, 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.079 you know, my first album for sure, But I think 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.280 I didn't really become like a super confident writer until 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.040 my second album, which I was about I think I 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.880 was like nineteen or twenty, so around the same time 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.719 as you was when I really like started practicing it 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.960 fully and like doing it for real, for real. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.120 And so how did you start singing? What were you into? 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:14.520 What did you grow up around? 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.120 Singing was something that I always did do since I 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.680 was super super young. I think when I started discovering 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.920 my own music and things that I was into, I 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.400 you know, discovered artists like Amy Winehouse that she was 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.920 a huge one for me. I loved her growing up 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.840 and in cold Play grew up listening to. My dad 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.720 is a huge Beatles fan, so I was always listening 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.800 to the Beatles, a little bit of everybody, I mean, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.320 like Stevie Nix and Fleetwood, Mac, Lauren hill Er, Kobadu 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:42.160 shade you. Of course, I always gravitated towards like the 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.880 singer songwriter, women who like played an instrument, who were 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.960 like on stage on their own. I always loved that 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:48.480 and I always wanted to do that. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.839 So that's cool. Yeah. And your family's Italian? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.360 So did you ever hear any Italian music growing up? 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:55.800 I did. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.520 Yeah, my mom played a lot of different Italian music. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.320 There's I mean, you can list all of them. There's like, sorry, 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.040 my mom's in the room. Also, there's an artist named 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.920 Edo Sti. There's a really big Italian artist who I 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.400 got to collaborate with a couple of years ago, which 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.480 was so cool because we grew up listening to him. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.720 Between like my dad loving like you know, the Beatles 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.960 and Elvis and then my mom listening to Italian music 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:17.400 and stuff. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:18.840 It was it's a nice mix. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.240 Yeah, what do you think about trying another song? Oh 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.920 that'd be lovely. Yeah, yeah, do you want to try clearly, sure, clearly. Yeah, 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.560 Oh my gosh, yeah, let's see if this guitar it's 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.600 got a big neck, so hopefully it's okay to big. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:53.480 A million years later, here's only a million pages worth 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.439 of history. We were roaming in the desert, found in 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:04.200 an olive tree. No use in going back to sight 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.680 and who's wrong and toss the blame between us like 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.280 a basketball. I've learned that it takes two to tango. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:18.360 After all, lie, smoke clean we. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:21.000 And know what? 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:27.319 Don't hate you? Yeah, we're run borrow time and I 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:36.560 don't wasting a the otion between us clothes and there. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.600 Now we're close, and I see the. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:47.520 Fences men and slowly can we be open? 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.319 Forget about the. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:55.600 Rest start of over For the first time, I can 0:12:55.679 --> 0:13:10.679 see clearly. For the first time, I can see you. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:17.200 I've visited the beginning and we really grown. I've analyzed 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.320 the ending through a telescope. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.040 Some things can work out. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:32.280 Until they just don't smokey we here, you know, I 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.439 don't hate it. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.559 We'll run borrow time, and I don't a waste. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:48.559 Be the ocean between us closing. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:55.520 And we're close, and I see the fences mending slowly. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:03.440 Can we be open, forget about the rest and. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:11.160 Start of over for the first time, I have. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:20.880 The ocean between us clothes and we're closer, and I 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:25.040 see the fences Mandy slowly. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.840 Can we realpen? 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.680 Forget about the rest and start. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:50.440 Over for the first time, I can see clearly, first 0:14:50.520 --> 0:15:24.320 time I can see. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.080 When you were starting to play out? You know where 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.520 did you start playing? Did you play in bars? Did 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.720 you play at home? For you did a lot of 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:18.440 stuff on YouTube. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.680 I know I did. Yeah, I was super shy. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.200 I mean I still am. Like we were talking about, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.640 I'm a shy writer. I was a very shy singer 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.000 as well, So I did a lot of it just 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.080 at home by myself when like no one was around. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.480 That's where I like really practiced and did everything. And 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.760 then I didn't have a band until my first band, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.640 you know, since I got signed, Like that was my 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.800 first time working with a band doing proper shows. And 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.600 was it hard to make that adjustment or was it 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.360 just like a relief to have people to do it with? 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:45.200 You know what I mean? 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.400 Yeah, it was honestly the latter. It was definitely a 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.200 relief because you know, when you're up there and as 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:50.160 such a shy person. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:51.720 It's kind of all reliant on you. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.240 And you know, I wasn't the most phenomenal guitar player, 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.440 and I can't really like shred and fill in space. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.920 So I always felt like it was super naked up there, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.400 and it's scary. It's scary when it's just you, you know, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.720 because every mistake can be heard, and you know, it's 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.760 just it's very bare. So once I had this group 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.280 of people around me to one make my song sound 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.960 so full and rich, which is wonderful, but then also 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.200 just to have people up there with me felt really nice, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.200 and it quickly became like a little family, you know, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:19.000 it was very nice. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.280 That's the best the family vibes on the road. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.520 it's definitely. It's the only way, yeah, to be close 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.120 to the people you're traveling. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.840 With totally, especially when you're on you know, you're on 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.560 one bus. It's you know, I think people think touring 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.240 is maybe something that it isn't, and they don't realize 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.720 how tight knit you are and how oftentimes very you know, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.120 not glamorous it can. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.640 Be not at all, not at all. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.160 There's nothing glamorous really about being on a tour bus. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:44.760 So if you're around a bunch of strangers or you 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.360 don't get along, it can be taxing. It's yeah, you know, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.880 so it's it's so nice to have a team that 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.960 I really love and feel very close to. Has it 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.360 changed a lot over the years. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.440 It's changed slightly. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.200 One of my band members, actually Eric, I think he 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.880 did some of your tech. Eric Krazinski, he was here. Oh, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:04.520 I think he's the one who kind of put us 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.280 in contact many years ago. He's doing producing now, so 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.679 he doesn't really do too much live stuff anymore. And 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.640 then unfortunately my bass player passed away oh this year, 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.720 which is very devastating. Yeah, so my drummer is still 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.600 the same, thank you. My drummer is still the same. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:21.679 You know, a couple of things have moved around, but 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.600 I still feel very close to everybody. Even the ones 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.040 you aren't tourn with me anymore, feel super close to 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:26.639 them and we. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:28.960 Talk all the time. So yeah, things change. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.240 But yeah, yeah, But also being young, because you start 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.920 out so young, to be on the road that young, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:36.280 it can be really hard. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.080 Yeah, it was. It was challenging. It was very challenging. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.440 Were you the youngest of the bunch or were there 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.920 a lot of other young people within the group. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.600 I was the youngest. I had my guitar tech Leo 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.359 was around my age. He's like maybe three years older 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.400 than me. Everybody else was a lot older than me. Okay, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.359 that was another thing too, yeah, which and they were 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.520 all men, Like I have my my manager Victoria, but 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.359 she wasn't on the road road with us very much, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.760 so she's the only girl that was on the road. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.040 Now I have my bass player now as a girl, 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:08.240 which would be so fun to. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:09.000 Have her on the road. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.360 Yeah, when you're traveling with a bunch of men who 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:12.800 are a lot older than you, it could be. 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.240 Very challenged, that's the thing. Yeah. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.280 Yeah, I don't know what your experience was like, or 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.359 if you had many other women on the road or 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.960 people your age. Thankfully, it did become a family. It 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.080 felt like I had a bunch of big brothers around 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.920 me all the time, which is very nice. But there's 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.480 a good situation, yeah, yeah, but there is that little 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.440 void of just having you know, people your age. 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.080 Yeah, it's a different thing. Yeah, it's a different energy. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.280 I had someone in my band early on who is 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.960 my best friend and my age, and we just groofed 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.120 around the whole time, and the rest of the band 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.600 was like ten to fifteen years older than us, And 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.960 when I think back, I just think of us being 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.480 so annoying, probably just like doing pranks. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.560 My best friend used to travel with me too, and 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.480 I feel like that was our dynamic as well, like 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:56.840 mooning people. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.640 Like oh oh wow, yeah, I mean, you know. 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.480 Because we're a kid thing, we were really just teenage boys, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:04.480 I guess exactly. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.760 Yeah, yeah, it's the same exactly. It was the same 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.639 exact dynamic with my best friend, and I feel like 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.360 everybody was just so sick of us. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.600 Yeah, but you don't realize until you're older. But gosh, 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:14.240 we had fun. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.520 Yeah, I know, Oh my god, we were just having 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.080 a good time, so much fun. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.120 Yeah, Because you have to have moments to be a kid. 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.280 I feel like this, this industry can kind of launch 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.960 you into adulthood really early on, and so it's nice 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.000 to just have moments to just be a young person, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:29.280 you know. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.720 And I also think we do this because we love 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.080 it and it is fun. Yeah, so you got to 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.040 find a way to keep it fun. So you're going 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.520 on tour, Hm, that's exciting. Yeah, I'm so excited. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.199 It's been a long time since I've toured because my 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:45.600 last album I released, like. 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.360 You know, amidst like COVID time. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.280 Yeah. Yeah, so I haven't toured since twenty nineteen, so 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:51.640 it's going to be Oh that's a long time. 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:52.400 Yeah, for sure. 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.879 It was like a very transformative six years. I mean, 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.720 as any six years are. I think, yeah, six years 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.120 is a long time. But yeah, I just feel really excited. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.040 I feel like very antsy to get back out on stage. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.600 It's going to be going to feel really good. M Yeah, 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:06.040 I think so. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.840 I hope so, I know it will, but obviously nervous 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:09.720 because yeah. 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:11.400 I was gonna say, are you a little bit since 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:12.320 you haven't done it in a while? 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.440 Yeah, yeah, to some degree. It's like riding a bike. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.760 It's like wobbly at first, right, So I imagine I'll 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.399 be a little bit nervous in the beginning. I'm always nervous. 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.520 But it feels like I'm doing it again for the 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.080 first time in a weird way. It's strange, but. 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.000 That's kind of a beautiful thing, I think, yeah, because 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.800 there's that first time excitement and energy coming back in. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.400 You know. Yeah, I'm excited for you, and I hope 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.439 you bring your dog for a little part of the 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.480 tour practice having the dog on the bus. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:39.840 Yes, I think it'll be good. 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.359 The Canadian run is pretty short, so that might be 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.600 a good tester. That's a big take care see if 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.440 she'll be a good tour dog or that's good. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.639 I find that it's really hard to get off the 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.320 road and not know what to do with yourself sometimes. 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.199 So did you end up finding like little other things 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.240 to do with yourself any hobbies? 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.760 Yeah, there were a few different things, honestly that I 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.360 picked up. I'm like a such a hobby person. I'll 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.600 like hyper fixate on something for months and then we'll 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.679 find another thing. I mean, first of all, I like 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.399 really tried to practice cooking. I got into cooking a 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.960 lot random other things I got into like tarot cards 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.880 and taro so I do that. I learned like all 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:18.440 about like perfumes and sense and I started collecting perfume, 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.840 which is a random thing, but it's just become like 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.399 a part of my life now, Like I know all 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.280 about like the notes and the top notes. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.520 And all the different perfumes. Well, you smelled really good 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.920 when you can't remember. I was like, oh, yes, smell nice. 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.600 Whatever that is a compliment. I appreciate that, thank you. 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.240 Yeah, I've been really into the alchemy of perfume, so 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.440 it's those are like some little things that I've been into. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.040 It's funny, I've always felt like not being on the 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.960 road for a long time and not having any plan 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.240 to look ahead to, it's a weird place to be 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:46.960 for a musician. 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.440 It can be hard, especially when you know a lot 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.320 of my friends and people in my life are not 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.280 in the industry, so they have regular jobs and so 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.520