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Speaker 1: Kyle's question next. He says, what kinds of technology will

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Speaker 1: be or have been game changers in the world of

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Speaker 1: college football, and what do you think is next. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go in reverse order again. I tend to

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Speaker 1: do this a lot, Kyle. I think ocular training and

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Speaker 1: ocular strength measurement is at the forefront, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of programs are already doing this. I've spoken about it before.

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Speaker 1: I think, and what that is essentially is understanding that

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Speaker 1: your eyes are no different than your arms or your

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Speaker 1: legs in a sense that you work them both, but

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Speaker 1: yet they may be of unequal strength. Some of you

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Speaker 1: would know exactly what I'm talking about. If you're lifting

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Speaker 1: right now, and you're doing curls, and one of your

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Speaker 1: arms consistently goes a little bit higher than the other,

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Speaker 1: it may be indicative that one of your arms is

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Speaker 1: stronger than the other. Some of you have a leg

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit longer than the other leg. You

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Speaker 1: have all kinds of little idiosyncrasies about your body. The

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Speaker 1: eyes are no different. The eyes sometimes, in fact a

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Speaker 1: lot of times they're finding out, can be of varying

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Speaker 1: degrees of strength. If you've ever been measured for contacts,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you've found this lesson out. But what if you

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Speaker 1: have what if, for example, you're an X receiver and

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Speaker 1: you have a catch radius of this, and you have

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Speaker 1: a forty time of that, and you have all the

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Speaker 1: classic measurables already down. But let's say your drop rate

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Speaker 1: is thirteen percent higher when you line up on the

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Speaker 1: right hash or further out than it is on the

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Speaker 1: left hash or further out. Why is that, Well, as

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Speaker 1: they're finding out, it's not just dumb luck. What's happening

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Speaker 1: is you're using the inner eye, so the eye that's

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Speaker 1: closest to the quarterback, that's your dominant eye. When receiving

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Speaker 1: a ball coming from middle of the field towards the

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Speaker 1: side you're on. If you've got the weaker eye closer

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Speaker 1: to the action, closer to the ball, it ups your

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Speaker 1: percentage drop rate just a little bit. How do you

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Speaker 1: figure that out? Well, you got to figure out first

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Speaker 1: about ocular strength. And a lot of programs have been

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Speaker 1: working on this. LSU, from my knowledge, was at the

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Speaker 1: very very forefront of this back in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Now a lot of programs have gotten on board with it.

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Speaker 1: But that stuff you never would have thought about. You

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Speaker 1: would have worked on your legs, you would have worked

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Speaker 1: on your explosive rate, you would have worked on your hands,

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Speaker 1: and you never never would have even thought about these

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Speaker 1: two things in your head that you have to use

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Speaker 1: to see everything as being part of the process of

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Speaker 1: catching football. But yet, as it turns out, it's imperative.

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Speaker 1: That's what understanding and application of science and technology has

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Speaker 1: taught us I'll tell you what I think is huge

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Speaker 1: and has already been a game changer, and that is

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Speaker 1: GPS technology for practice. GPS technology being every player is

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Speaker 1: wearing a device that's no different really than the ones

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Speaker 1: in your cars, except instead of tracking your car, is

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Speaker 1: tracking the player. It's tracking the force on their joints.

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Speaker 1: It's tracking how fast they go rep to rep. It's

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Speaker 1: tracking how many steps they take, how many reps they're taking,

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Speaker 1: how much energy their body is exerting. And what we

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Speaker 1: found is different players are capable of different things. I

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Speaker 1: know that's a shock, but different players are capable of

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Speaker 1: what they call different loads. And so it is all

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Speaker 1: about load management these days instead of broad training. If

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Speaker 1: you're let's say forty eight years old and you play

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Speaker 1: football in middle school, high school, even say you played

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Speaker 1: in college, and I don't care what level, let's say

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Speaker 1: you played at the highest level. I want you to

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Speaker 1: think about what practice was for you. Practice was everyone's

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Speaker 1: going to do the same thing in warmups, Everyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: go through the same drills, and then you're gonna split off,

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Speaker 1: maybe into position groups, but even within the position groups,

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Speaker 1: then everyone's gonna do the same thing. So a practice

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Speaker 1: format would be on a grease board or let's say

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Speaker 1: a piece of notebook paper. All right, let's say flankers

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Speaker 1: are gonna go out here and you're gonna work on

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Speaker 1: five yard outs for five minutes, and then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: run flyes for five minutes. And that's what your practice

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Speaker 1: is going to be as an ex receiver today. Well,

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Speaker 1: in the modern age, what happens is if you and

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Speaker 1: I are both the same position group, but my load

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Speaker 1: management and my optimum load management and a practice is

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of yours, you're gonna go out there

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Speaker 1: and probably do a little bit more work than me.

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Speaker 1: That's lucky for me, I guess. But what it's trying

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Speaker 1: to do and what it's all geared to do is

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Speaker 1: put us in the best possible physical position to succeed.

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Speaker 1: And also it's aimed at optimizing recovery after practice to

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Speaker 1: get me and you ready for next practice. That's the

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Speaker 1: biggest game changer. The biggest game changer to me has

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Speaker 1: been GPS technology allowing data scientists within a football program

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Speaker 1: to know each player individually, and they also structure an

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Speaker 1: individual workout program for you based on all of that information.

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Speaker 1: So again, take the same example, you and I play

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Speaker 1: the same position. It may be that when we go

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Speaker 1: in weight room and we do stretch and stride, and

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Speaker 1: then we go into workouts. Back in the day, you

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Speaker 1: and I would both do five sets of five on

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Speaker 1: squads and then five sets of four on power clean. Well,

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Speaker 1: these days, you may be over here doing lunges for

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Speaker 1: three sets of twenty and I may be over here

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Speaker 1: totally different doing hip flex or related work because our

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Speaker 1: individualized workouts call for us to do different things based

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Speaker 1: on what that GPS and data has told our data

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Speaker 1: team about who we are, just our physical composition and

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Speaker 1: our makeup, who we are. It's really fascinating stuff. And

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Speaker 1: I have been actually in talks with someone at a

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Speaker 1: major program to really do a deep dive on this.

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Speaker 1: Some of you may not be interested in it. I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of you would salivate it this idea.

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Speaker 1: So I'm working with him right now, working with this

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Speaker 1: program right now. If we get the all clear, we

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Speaker 1: are going to do a long form deep dive on

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Speaker 1: this sometime over the summer. And I think when you

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Speaker 1: listen to this person talk and you understand who they

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Speaker 1: are and where they're associated and where they came from

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Speaker 1: I think you'll have both ears wide open, because it's

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Speaker 1: just you can't even imagine the level of detail that

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Speaker 1: goes into this, even relative to where the sport was

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Speaker 1: just ten years ago. It's not the nineteen sixties or

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Speaker 1: seventies versus today. It's like twenty ten and eleven versus today.

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Speaker 1: Samar's got a really good question here about the future

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Speaker 1: of TV, and it's something that I'm glad he asked

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Speaker 1: when he did, because I just had a pretty lengthy

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Speaker 1: conversation about this with someone inside the CBS ecosystem yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so I'll answer it right after this. Samar asks, people

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Speaker 1: have been speaking about how the NFL's new contract isolates

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football to Amazon Prime, and that the next

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Speaker 1: TV rights package in the twenty thirties will consist of

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Speaker 1: streaming platforms like YouTube and Netflix and Amazon Prime. Do

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Speaker 1: you think college football will follow the same track when

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Speaker 1: their contracts are coming up in the late twenty twenties,

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Speaker 1: or will the traditional audience of college football argue to

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Speaker 1: keep the games on broadcast TV. Somar, there is a

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Speaker 1: lot of skill and no skill simultaneously in answering this,

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Speaker 1: So the no skill part's pretty obvious. I think we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the late twenty twenties and twenty thirties, and

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Speaker 1: we're in twenty twenty one right now. Fully aware, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have to be fully aware. There will be a platform,

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Speaker 1: multiple platforms. Probably, there will be technology, there will be

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Speaker 1: bundling capabilities and options that don't even exist right now

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Speaker 1: that will be at the forefront of the industry by

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Speaker 1: that point. So I am of the opinion that you've

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Speaker 1: got to plan your future in very, very light pencil

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Speaker 1: so you can continue to evolve and you can continue

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Speaker 1: to adjust as the landscape changes. I was talking to

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Speaker 1: an executive here at CBS about this yesterday, and I

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Speaker 1: know this is someone who is tasked with knowing all

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Speaker 1: this stuff and no the landscape, and I said, man,

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Speaker 1: I do not envy you, because this is trying to

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Speaker 1: nail jello to the wall, trying to understand and stay

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Speaker 1: on top of this. And he said, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: like standing on a bed of marbles because what is

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Speaker 1: here today could be out from under your feet tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And we're trying to plan long term content strategies and

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Speaker 1: distribution plans and all this and that, and it's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that just makes your head spin once

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Speaker 1: you understand it. It's kind of like being on Earth

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Speaker 1: versus being on the International Space Station and being out

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Speaker 1: in space a little bit. If you're on Earth, you

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Speaker 1: can never picture Earth. It's hard to picture. You've seen

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Speaker 1: a globe before, but it's hard to picture it. Only

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Speaker 1: when you get into outer space and you look back

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Speaker 1: at Earth can you say, oh, that's what it really

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Speaker 1: looks like. Well, that's kind of how this is. And

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Speaker 1: it's hard to get into outer space in this business

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Speaker 1: and to be able to fully wrap your mind around

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Speaker 1: all that this entails. But I will tell you this,

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Speaker 1: there's a shift even going on within this question right now, tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: right now, there was this, so let's talk about shifts.

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Speaker 1: There was a big about oh, three or four years

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Speaker 1: ago when everyone realized, oh, Amazon Prime is going to

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Speaker 1: be big. Oh Netflix isn't always just going to be

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Speaker 1: mailed to your door. And Netflix was streaming by then,

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Speaker 1: but they realized what it is now is not what

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Speaker 1: it's going to be in the future. Every digital and

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Speaker 1: social media platform does this too. Some of you aren't

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Speaker 1: on any of these things, but it's really not hard

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Speaker 1: to understand if you think about Instagram. I think about

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Speaker 1: Instagram when it first came around, and it was basically

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Speaker 1: where my sister and mom and a bunch of girls

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Speaker 1: that I knew went to post recipes and post different

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Speaker 1: fitness tips. It was nothing. It was not even comparable

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Speaker 1: to what it is now. These platforms continue to evolve,

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Speaker 1: just like everything else. The platforms evolved, and so Netflix,

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Speaker 1: right now, you're not watching a live game on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Ten years from now, you will be probably sooner than

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Speaker 1: that Amazon. Who in the world would have guessed that

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen years ago, that place that you went to

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Speaker 1: for a website to buy I don't know, workout gear

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Speaker 1: would be a place where you were going to watch

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Speaker 1: the Rams and the Titans five or so. Well, that's happening,

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Speaker 1: actually this upcoming season, that's happening. So samarw you're right

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Speaker 1: in that. But here's the other thing that's happening. It

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Speaker 1: was a trend for quite a while to cut the cord.

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Speaker 1: Remember cord cutting. It was a big deal. Everyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: dump cable because it's so much cheaper to access these

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Speaker 1: streaming options. And I'll get Hulu if I want to,

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Speaker 1: or I'll get Netflix if I want to. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the problem. Every one of these giant media conglomerates and

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Speaker 1: corporations realized, wait a second, we got to get in

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Speaker 1: that business, we got to get in that sphere. And

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Speaker 1: so then they all did. Well, guess what happened when

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Speaker 1: they all did. The market became more competitive. Netflix all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden couldn't charge what they charge anymore. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't let you share passwords with your buddies anymore, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you had to get a lot

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Speaker 1: more competitive and creative, and all the content wasn't in

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Speaker 1: one place anymore. And so now you got to be

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Speaker 1: on Paramount if you want this, and you got to

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Speaker 1: be on Hulu if you want that, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: be on Netflix if you want this, and HBO Max

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Speaker 1: for that. And then all of a sudden, you realize,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, this isn't much cheaper than ca anymore.

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Speaker 1: And now what's happening. It's like watching a ping pong match.

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Speaker 1: Now a lot of people have actually shifted and they've

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Speaker 1: gone back to focusing on new and improved cable bundling.

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Speaker 1: And there's a thought in the industry now that cable

642
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Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere, and big broadcast rights going towards cable,

643
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: and a focus on cable isn't going anywhere now. I'm

644
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: not telling you this couldn't change tomorrow. But what I'm

645
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: talking about is, for example, you know what, if I

646
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: told you there's a little whisper in the industry that

647
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: right now Monday night football they'd love to get their

648
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: contract back on ABC instead of ESPN. Why is that Well,

649
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: because they understand what viewing patterns mean, and they track

650
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: this stuff daily and they know exactly what you're doing

651
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: and over the air, all of a sudden looks a

652
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Speaker 1: lot more valuable in the future even than it did

653
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: if we did this study two years ago. So samorrow,

654
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Speaker 1: I say all that to say this, I don't think

655
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Speaker 1: anyone has the slightest clue what the TV rights packages

656
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: are going to look like. What I think is they'll

657
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: probably be a way to take advantage of all this.

658
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll be a everyone will be a play

659
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: in this arena. And it's a good thing for the

660
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: leagues because that maximizes your earnings potential. I mean that maximizes,

661
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: for instance, the Big Tens TV contract when it's coming up.

662
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: The SEC just signed a huge, multi billion dollar deal

663
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: with ESPN. It's going to continue to be that way

664
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Speaker 1: because content is and always will be king live content,

665
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: live sporting content. Especially with lake Kick. We're in a

666
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: really good place because we're doing we're doing live content

667
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: of a different variety, but yet we are a content machine.

668
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: This brand is a content machine, and we can produce

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Speaker 1: untold amounts of content every week, and then you can

670
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: get aggregation involved there, you can get social plans involved.

671
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: Those are the entities that are in a really good spot,

672
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: but somhar to try and nail down exactly where they'll be.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start with that connor next.

674
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Speaker 1: Do you think anyone in the Big ten could surprise

675
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: anyone else this year? Sure? I think if Penn State

676
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: was a contender, it would surprise people. I think they're

677
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: at least with an outside shot of making that happen.

678
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: I think Michigan would surprise people if J. A. J.

679
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: McCarthy was the starter and then they really sprung on

680
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: folks and they had a top ten caliber season. I

681
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: think that would be a surprise. Wisconsin. I don't think

682
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: many people expect a lot out of and it's probably

683
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: because they look back on what they think was a

684
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: disappointing twenty twenty, And I think Wisconsin would have been

685
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: a very good team in twenty twenty had they been

686
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: able to maintain health. And they had a lot of

687
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: COVID issues and they lost their best receiving options that

688
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: we got a small glimpse of in Week one, I

689
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: think it was against Illinois, and so yeah, that all

690
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: could happen. All those things could happen. What is the

691
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: national consensus on if Indiana's going to maintain the juice

692
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: that they had last year, Because I'll tell you this,

693
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: they got a lot coming back and Michael Pennix, who

694
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: will probably end up being the starting quarterback there again,

695
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: is out for the spring. And they've already got good

696
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: quarterback depth there. They may have the best overall quarterback

697
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Speaker 1: depth outside of maybe Ohio state, of anyone in the

698
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Speaker 1: Big Ten, and it's Indiana, and they're getting Jack Tuttle

699
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of the guys behind him, for example,

700
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: getting really good reps in the spring. They've got good

701
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: receiver depth, back, tight end as excellent. There. Running backs

702
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of a mystery. They got a lot

703
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Speaker 1: of veteran experience on the offensive line. I would question

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00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: the team identity about Indiana, And by question, I don't

705
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: mean doubt it. I really do just mean question it.

706
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Indiana snuck up on folks last year. I don't think

707
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Indiana is sneaking up on anyone this year. So if

708
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Speaker 1: they were able to improve on last year's effort, I

709
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: think that may be a surprise to some people. So yeah,

710
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: you can look across the conference and you could say

711
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean Nebraska, what if Scott Frost got

712
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: Nebraska to pop all of a sudden in year three?

713
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: What if this was the year where Nebraska made that

714
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: quantum leap. Now you get a little big ten preview there.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know what was coming this morning. Five

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00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: oh three is up next. I'm pretty sure this was

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Speaker 1: one of the podcast reviews that submitted a question, because

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Speaker 1: this is the one where you don't really have to

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Speaker 1: put a real name in there. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't, I think we're close to fourteen hundred

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00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: five star reviews on Apple podcasts. So if you are

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Speaker 1: one of the nine at least out there who has

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Speaker 1: not already drop what you're doing, give us a five

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Speaker 1: star review there. If you don't know where it is,

725
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: go right there to your podcast where you're listening, scroll

726
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 1: all the way down past all the episodes and bottom

727
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: you can leave a five star review and a comment,

728
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: because five oh three did, and he left a question

729
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 1: right there in the comment. He or she I don't know,

730
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: but here's the question, Oregon fan, here, out of the

731
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: rest of the PAC twelve, who do you think can

732
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: take their recruiting to the next level and join USC

733
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Speaker 1: and Oregon and help out the conference? I say, Arizona State.

734
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: What say you? Arizona State will forever be my answer here?

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00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: UCLA could be that team. They have never to me

736
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: seemed all in on that concept. Arizona State. Is that

737
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Speaker 1: ty Thompson? For example, since you're an Oregon fan, you

738
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Speaker 1: know where you guys just got him from. Maybe the

739
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: rest of the country doesn't. Ty Thompson was not some

740
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: end state product. Ty Thompson was not some northern California product.

741
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Speaker 1: Ty Thompson came out of the state of Arizona, and

742
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Speaker 1: ty Thompson is one of many guys that, if Arizona

743
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Speaker 1: State could ever develop a recruiting plan to keep a

744
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: bolt of the talent at home, would end up being

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Speaker 1: one of the dark horse candidates nationally. To me, Arizona

746
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: State is now what Texas A and M was for

747
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: a long time. A and M was the biggest dark

748
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: horse per for years and years and years because they

749
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: were sitting in a place that was good for recruiting,

750
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: just geographics they had on their side. It's a desirable

751
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: place to live. I mean, Texas is a great place

752
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: to be, just like Arizona's a great place to be

753
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: and it was untapped, so someone could go in there

754
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: and really become a legend doing what no one's done before,

755
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: and that exists right now at Texas A and M.

756
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: Jimbo could end up being the best coach in the

757
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: history of that program. I mean that's what he could do.

758
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: He could literally rewrite the history books there Herm Edwards,

759
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: and if it's not Herm, then the next guy, whoever

760
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about, independent of who the head coach is,

761
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: whoever it is or Hoopstep, could rewrite the record books

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00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: at Arizona State. It just takes hitting one grand slam.

763
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: You don't hit five singles, you go one for five,

764
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: But if it's the Grand Slam, you're better than your

765
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: neighbor who went fire for five with five singles. Now,

766
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: this does not apply to the sport of baseball necessarily,

767
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: but in the world of coaching hires it does. If

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Speaker 1: Herm Edwards is that guy, which I selfishly wish he was,

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Speaker 1: then that'd be great. But Arizona State, I think, is

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Speaker 1: the answer to this question. I've always also been interested

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: if anyone could properly harness Washington. Washington's a place if

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00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: you'll look this year, that has some in state talent. Now,

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00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: you're never going to build a championship caliber product recruiting

774
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Speaker 1: in state alone at Washington, but Oregon has shown you.

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00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Anyone in the Pacific Northwest who develops a national recruiting

776
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: platform and brand can put forth a very viable product.

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00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: You can compete with the Southern col schools Southern Cal

778
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: namely being the Southern Cal school, but also you can

779
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Speaker 1: compete nationally. So I would go Arizona State there, and

780
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: I would keep an eye on Washington too. David is next.

781
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: He says, in your opinion, how long does it take

782
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: to install championship culture and DNA into a second tier program?

783
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I know that the process is not uniform across programs

784
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: and coaches, but on average, how long would you expect

785
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: the development process to take, and how much time should

786
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: fans give the staff before they deservingly become frustrated. Well,

787
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: if we're talking about a complete rebuild, David, which I

788
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: assume you're talking about when you say second tier, I

789
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: give it three years minimum. And the here is because

790
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: of a couple of things, number one, year one becomes

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00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: year zero. So year zero is kind of like Mike

792
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: Norvelo dealt with last year when he walked in FSU

793
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: is seven different kinds of a mess. Year one and

794
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: then COVID obviously compounded things times ten. But year one

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00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: almost becomes year zero because year one, I'm not even

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Speaker 1: looking at your record at all. I'm looking at so

797
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: many things. It's like planting a seed. Get the seed

798
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: in the ground, get it properly watered, cover it with

799
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: the right top soil. No one is even thinking about

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00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: the plant. Just like in year one, or as I

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00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: call it, year zero, if you've got to root out

802
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the rot inside, and you've got to

803
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: completely weed out a lot of the bad roster parts,

804
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: and you've got to overhaul a staff, and you've got

805
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: to overhaul a lot of off field personnel, and you've

806
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: got to completely change the directives and the culture and

807
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: start getting people on the same page instead of fifteen

808
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: different ways of thinking. We're not worried about if you're

809
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna beat Duke. We're not worried if you're going to

810
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: cover seventeen against Miami. That's not even at the that's

811
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: not at the forefront or to me, on the back burner.

812
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: We're trying to just stop things from going in the

813
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: wrong direction before we can even start to turn it

814
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: and then start to hit the accelerator going in the

815
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: right direction. So I say three years because I don't

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00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: even count the first year. It's almost like year zero.

817
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Then the second year, that's where it's reasonable to start

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00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: looking at wins and losses and using it at least

819
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: as somewhat of a gauge. But really I still just

820
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: like to see the on field product. Which way is

821
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: it trending? Is it better this year than it was

822
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 1: last year? And then year three. Year three is where

823
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: most of the roster. I would say eighty plus percent

824
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: should be your guys. The ones that are your guys.

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00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you recruited all of them, but the

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Speaker 1: ones who are still around by year three have fully

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Speaker 1: bought into what you're doing. If not, they would have

828
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: fallen away, they would have transferred, they would have done whatever. Also,

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00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: by year three, all of your staffing and off field

830
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: personnel are completely aligned with your vision and your purpose.

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00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: You've hired everyone from administrative to player personnel, to recruiting,

832
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: et cetera. But then also your coaching staff. You've gotten

833
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: the feel of whether your first round of hires were

834
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: the right hires on the field, in recruiting, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: And fourthly, speaking of recruiting, you've gotten your face and

836
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: your staff's faces, and your culture and DNA and your

837
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: pitch in front of several layers of recruits now the

838
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: current class, the next year's class, the class after that.

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Speaker 1: So the ball should really be rolling by year three.

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00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: That's why Scott Frost at Nebraska bears really close watching

841
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: this year. That's why Jeff Collins at Georgia Tech bears

842
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: really close watching this year. Collins at Georgia techa guy,

843
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm really high on. They've won three games each of

844
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. This is his third season. He

845
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: perfectly fits the kind of program that we're talking about here.

846
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: So year three is when I'm going to look at

847
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: wins and losses and no longer is it going to

848
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: be enough to say, well there's good energy. Well you

849
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: know they're saying a lot of the right things. Now

850
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: it's time for result. But I think, David, my answer

851
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: is usually about three years. Roco up next, talking about

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00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: Georgie Pickens and that big injury at Georgia. He said,

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00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I just listened to your segment on George Pickens. I

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Speaker 1: normally listened to the podcast the day after. How do

855
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: you feel about Demetrius Robertson with his experience, do you

856
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: think he has the potential to step up and be

857
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: a leader next year for the offense along with JT.

858
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Speaker 1: Daniels and other guys Rocko, I remember Demetrius Robertson's recruitment.

859
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: I think he was out of the Savannah area. Now

860
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Speaker 1: this is my personal opinion. I want to stress that

861
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for twenty four to seven. I never

862
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: bought that Demetrius Robertson was a five star guy. Thought

863
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: he was a good receiver, never saw the fifth star

864
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: potential or production with him. Again, that's me personally. And

865
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: remember this recruitment. He ended up committing to cal So.

866
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: He goes as far west as you could possibly go

867
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Speaker 1: from Savannah Georgia and it doesn't work out there, and

868
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: then he transfers back to Georgia, and the talk then

869
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: was a former five star receiver talent is coming home.

870
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: This is really going to enhance our wide receiver room.

871
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it was detrimental to it. I

872
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: just don't think Georgia ever got quite the bump in

873
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: production that they expected there. He's had some injury issues.

874
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: A lot of folks do so Demetriz Robertson. This year.

875
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: The question by you and a lot of folks is

876
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: is this one it's finally going to click for him?

877
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I just think Demetrius Robertson is

878
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: who he is as a player. It's a good, solid,

879
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: serviceable option there. Not a game changer, not ever going

880
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: to break a game open. He's not a guy you

881
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: have to double. He's not a guy you're going to

882
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: formulate a defensive game plan around. He's just a good,

883
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: solid role player for Georgia. I would look at someone

884
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: like Jermaine Burton. To me, if we're identifying one guy

885
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: instead of a collection, Jermaine Burton is the name on

886
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: that Georgia roster, even counting the incoming guys that I

887
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: think you could count on to actually be a close

888
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: replacement to the production in the role in that production

889
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: that George Pickens would have played for you. Another question

890
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: from the podcast review section here, Rah nine says, with

891
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: quarterback transfers having such a major impact over the last decade,

892
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: do you see teams recruiting higher upside players with maybe

893
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: lower floors knowing they can always go to the portal

894
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: to fix their problems if they miss missing at the

895
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: quarterback position these days can just be a transfer fix

896
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: away instead of a two to three year rebuild through recruiting. Rach.

897
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: I think the answer to this is yes, but I

898
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: think it's a mistake. So Rach is basically saying, do

899
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: you think that if there's a risky quarterback guy out

900
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: there in high school, do you think programs will be

901
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: more likely to try and land him, knowing that if

902
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: it works out, great, we look like a genius. If

903
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, oh well, he'll be gone and

904
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: then we'll just go fix it through the transfer portal. Rach.

905
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: The assumption there is that the fix will always be

906
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal, and you'll always be a desirable

907
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: destination for that fix. That is an extremely dangerous game.

908
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Even if the answers are always going to be there,

909
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous game. I don't know that the answers

910
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: are always gonna be there, So it's gonna be a

911
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: case by case. Obviously, some years there are gonna be

912
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: three big names in there. Maybe the next year there

913
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: are none, Maybe the next year there are four. Who

914
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: knows how that's gonna work out. You don't That's the

915
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: point as a coach. You don't know that. You can't

916
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: forecast that second thing. This bears very close watching. I

917
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take a couple of three years to

918
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: play itself out. I don't believe the transfer portal is

919
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: gonna be as full every year as it is right now.

920
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: What is going to have to happen is guys are

921
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to learn through observation, and they're gonna have

922
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: to learn through watching. Some guys really suffer because of

923
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: poor decision making. There are way more kids in the

924
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: portal than there are spots to land, and it's probably

925
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: only gonna get worse after spring practice. So a lot

926
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: of people you're gonna hear post solutions to this, and

927
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: we need to fix this and fix that. No, you don't.

928
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: You need to sit back, keep your hands off of it,

929
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: and let people learn a lesson and then let the

930
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: process correct itself. Here's what I mean. If you're fifteen

931
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: years old right now, what are you a sophomore in

932
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: high school, but you're already getting some looks, you're getting

933
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: some offers. You know you're going to eventually be a

934
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: scholarship D one player somewhere, and you're looking around. You

935
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: watch the game right now, and you watch the transfer

936
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: portal right now, and you see a lot of guys

937
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: leaving programs where they're not happy. Well, here's what you're

938
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: about to see as well. At fifteen years old. You're

939
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: about to watch some of the guys is four or

940
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: five years older than you totally strand themselves on an

941
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: island with nowhere to land because they went into the

942
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: transfer portal assuming there'd be a destination and there's not one,

943
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: and maybe best case, at that point they can go

944
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: back to their old program, or maybe there's not a

945
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: spot form there either. And I'm fifteen years old and

946
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: I just watched that, and I took that in the

947
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: back of my head sixteen years old, I'm a junior.

948
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: I see the exact same process play out, and all

949
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: of a sudden it becomes more apparent when I get

950
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: to college, I better really be sure about my initial

951
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: destination because I'm looking at a lot of these guys.

952
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: And Whereas when I was fourteen, I thought, oh, I'll

953
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: just commit somewhere and if I don't like it, I'll leave.

954
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, I'm seeing I could leave,

955
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee that I'm going to have anywhere

956
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: to go. Then I'm seventeen, I'm a junior or a senior.

957
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: I've watched three cycles of that play out, hopefully depreciating

958
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: in number. But I've watched three cycles of that play

959
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: out to where now the class of let's say twenty

960
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: twenty four, whatever that would be, all of a sudden,

961
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: they've got the right mentality again coming out of high school,

962
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: and that they fully intend for that first destination to

963
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: be their destination. And instead of a first option when

964
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: you're unhappy, the transfer portal becomes a distant fifth or

965
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: sixth option in the back of your mind, and it's

966
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: a last ditch result only for you. That could and

967
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: I think that will happen. So if you're a coach

968
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: and you're planning your recruiting strategy at the quarterback position

969
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: around there always being an abundance of readily available telling

970
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: them the transfer portal. I think it's very foolish to

971
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: do that, but as you ask the question, I have

972
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: to answer it. I do think that will be the

973
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: strategy of some programs. All right, this was good this morning.

974
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: We had a lot of good questions. I told you guys,

975
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the word right now, I'm gonna whisper

976
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: it off season. There isn't one. Why would there be one?

977
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Why would you ever be desperate for content? If you're

978
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: in this business, just ask your audience to give you questions.

979
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: You see how that works out every single week, twice

980
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: a week for us here. So thank you for powering

981
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the show as you always do. Remember at Late Kick

982
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: Josh over on Instagram. That's the big push right now.

983
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: When we get over two thousand, we'll do a Late

984
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Kick Show Owners Association meeting. For those of you asking

985
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: the question about merch it may seem like nothing's going on,

986
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: we are getting closer. We're working with a couple of

987
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: different options there. That's the slight delay right now. But

988
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: we've got some really good stuff. I told you I'm

989
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: not gonna put it out if I myself wouldn't want

990
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: to wear it or wouldn't want to feature it. You're

991
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna like it. You're gonna like it because most of

992
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: the ideas came from you, so that's a guarantee that

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00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: you'll like it. So thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Remember Late Kick Live later tonight, we're gonna get on that.

995
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot more good stuff. We're gonna

996
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of college football by the time

997
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: the sun goes down today, and then you can wash

998
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: it all down with some college basketball tonight if that's

999
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: your thing. So for producer Jordan, I'm Josh Pate. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for listening to the Late Kick Extra Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Have a great rest of your day, and God bless