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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger as a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with My Heart Radio. What's Up, Everybody?

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Speaker 1: This is Peter Schreeger on the host of Good Morning

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Speaker 1: Football on the NFL network. I work on Fox NFL

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Speaker 1: Kickoff on Sundays for Fox Sports, and my newest venture

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Speaker 1: is this beautiful podcast called This Season with Peter Schreeger.

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Speaker 1: We are getting more and more listeners every week. It

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Speaker 1: is a sign of great strength, but a sign of

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Speaker 1: great growth. And at the end of the year, I'm

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Speaker 1: just grateful for everyone who has been listening and has

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Speaker 1: been coming along on the ride. I am joined by

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Speaker 1: my producer, Aaron woon Kaufman. Aaron, what is up man?

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Speaker 1: Week fourteen? How are you? I'm pretty good. It was

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Speaker 1: a great week of football this weekend. There was like

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of storylines, a lot of

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Speaker 1: playoff pictures coming together. Really exciting weekend. It lived up

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Speaker 1: to the to the billing last weekend. It was one

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Speaker 1: of those deals where I around Tuesday was like, wait

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Speaker 1: a second, this has got loaded weekend. We've got you know, giants, commanders,

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Speaker 1: You've got the Dolphins and the Niner storyline. You've got Uh,

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Speaker 1: this incredible Bengals Chiefs rematch. And then sure enough find

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Speaker 1: myself on Monday night up until midnight watching Saints Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: and I posed this question um on Good Morning Football

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Speaker 1: to start the show. Everyone you know on Tuesday morning

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Speaker 1: and that's where we're recording this right now, is like,

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Speaker 1: what a come back by Brady? What an amazing thing

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Speaker 1: by Brady. In fact, uh, there was a tweet that

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Speaker 1: went out and it was it was from front off

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Speaker 1: his Sports. They said, tonight, with just over three minutes

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Speaker 1: to go, the Bucks trailed by the felt the Saints

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Speaker 1: by thirteen points. They had a three point three percent

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Speaker 1: chance to win at that point pre HISPN and with

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Speaker 1: eight seconds left, Tom Brady through the latest game winning

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Speaker 1: touchdown of his twenty three year career. And your initial

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Speaker 1: reaction is, Brady is amazing. How did he do it?

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Speaker 1: You can never count him out? And that's all right.

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Speaker 1: I cannot get over that collapse by the Saints. And

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Speaker 1: maybe that says a lot about me as a person,

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Speaker 1: And maybe that says something about me as AH in

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Speaker 1: a psychotherapy situation where I look at that Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: three and I'm like, yeah, Brady was great, but I

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Speaker 1: also look at it as how did Dan Quinn, Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: sleep the next day? Last night, Aaron, the Saints gave

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Speaker 1: that game away to the Buccaneers, and about thirty five

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Speaker 1: different ways. I'm talking about everything from mark ingram running

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Speaker 1: out of bounds and stopping the clock one yard short

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Speaker 1: of a first down to put the game away. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about throwing the ball on third and one and

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Speaker 1: then punting the ball on fourth and one, which made

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Speaker 1: no sense. I'm talking about a six man defensive backfield

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Speaker 1: that was a prevent defense for the last two drives

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Speaker 1: that just basically let Brady just walk right up and

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Speaker 1: down the field. Um. If I'm a Bucks fan, I

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Speaker 1: am elated this morning. It's your six and six. You're

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Speaker 1: playoff game. Great. If I am a Saints fan, I

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Speaker 1: am sick this morning. It's games like those that cost

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Speaker 1: you playoff spots. It's games like those that that cost

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Speaker 1: people jobs. Um, does that say more about me as

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Speaker 1: a person? There? And deep cut here, I just watched

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Speaker 1: the Jonah hill Um doc on Netflix with his psychologists

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Speaker 1: or psychiatrist Phil Stuts, And it's all about, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: introspection and look at what did say about me that

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Speaker 1: I always look at the negative. And I'm like that

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Speaker 1: the Bucks didn't when that game the Saints lost that game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, especially because I feel like

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Speaker 1: pull it together. Brady is going to obviously make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna, They're gonna, the offense is gonna work suddenly,

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Speaker 1: being too positive about them. I don't know, watching them, like,

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Speaker 1: just seems like the offense isn't work. King, I think

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Speaker 1: That one is like we knew, Jimmy G. I go

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Speaker 1: back to now you know that in twenty nineteen they

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Speaker 1: Mostard missed eight games, Deebo Samuel miss nine games, Kittle

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Speaker 1: and I think Kyle shannah and and John Lynch have

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Speaker 1: Whereas other teams, I think they get that and it's

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Speaker 1: If you notice, they didn't miss a beat when Brock

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Speaker 1: they're gonna miss Garoppolo's experience, They're gonna miss Garoppolos leadership.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna miss Garoppolo as a better NFL player than

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty. Objectively he is. If he wasn't, Brock Purty

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Speaker 1: the number two coming into this season. Garoppolo is better.

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Speaker 1: This is a major setback, but it doesn't mean it's

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Speaker 1: their season. And I've been going through the annals of

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Speaker 1: Dilford was up and down all season. He goes down

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Speaker 1: Aaron is their tenant to shut up. A win is

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Speaker 1: a win. No one cares about that, and those wins

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Speaker 1: the NFL and he's doing it wearing number thirteen Day

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Speaker 1: Marina's number. And the first game that he wins, it's

422
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Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and against two was the quarterback in

423
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Speaker 1: Alabama when he was probably being recruited. I love that,

424
00:21:56,466 --> 00:21:58,546
Speaker 1: Aaron great job. I honestly didn't know a lot of that.

425
00:21:59,026 --> 00:22:01,866
Speaker 1: I'll add um one thing, and it's a small little nugget.

426
00:22:01,906 --> 00:22:05,106
Speaker 1: We showed the draft video on Good Morning Football Today

427
00:22:05,106 --> 00:22:08,066
Speaker 1: Tuesday of when Brock pretty was drafted. He was selected

428
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Speaker 1: as the very last pick of the seventh round. His

429
00:22:10,626 --> 00:22:14,906
Speaker 1: family is jumping up and down. He's excited, they're hugging

430
00:22:14,986 --> 00:22:17,626
Speaker 1: each other. I think that Mr. Irrelevant thing. A lot

431
00:22:17,626 --> 00:22:19,586
Speaker 1: of players are insulted by it. They don't want to

432
00:22:19,586 --> 00:22:21,946
Speaker 1: be Mr. Irelevant. It means that you know, Twitter and

433
00:22:21,946 --> 00:22:26,866
Speaker 1: fifty five other people were taking before you. It reminds you, hell,

434
00:22:26,906 --> 00:22:29,386
Speaker 1: I was just drafted by an NFL team. My dream

435
00:22:29,386 --> 00:22:31,146
Speaker 1: has been realized. If I do nothing else, I was

436
00:22:31,186 --> 00:22:33,946
Speaker 1: drafted by an NFL team. But it sounds like that

437
00:22:34,026 --> 00:22:36,186
Speaker 1: was just to start for brock party story. But thank

438
00:22:36,186 --> 00:22:38,546
Speaker 1: you for all those beginning chapters. Really good job are

439
00:22:38,946 --> 00:22:40,626
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. I'm excited to see what he does

440
00:22:40,666 --> 00:22:43,746
Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah. Um, and now it's for our time

441
00:22:43,746 --> 00:22:46,066
Speaker 1: for our guest. I am so pumped to bring this

442
00:22:46,106 --> 00:22:47,986
Speaker 1: guy on. I don't think he does a ton of media,

443
00:22:48,146 --> 00:22:49,746
Speaker 1: and I think when he gets on the microphone, you're

444
00:22:49,746 --> 00:22:51,426
Speaker 1: gonna see what he might be the next head coach

445
00:22:51,466 --> 00:22:54,666
Speaker 1: of your NFL team. It's one of most successful offensive

446
00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:57,386
Speaker 1: coordinators in football over the last two years. He's young,

447
00:22:57,586 --> 00:23:01,146
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight. He's the man. Let's get Bengals offensive

448
00:23:01,146 --> 00:23:08,706
Speaker 1: coordinator Brian Calahan on the horn. I'm beyond excited to

449
00:23:08,826 --> 00:23:12,106
Speaker 1: introduce our next guest to the season with Peter Schrager. Uh.

450
00:23:12,146 --> 00:23:14,786
Speaker 1: He's the offensive coordinator of the reigning a f C

451
00:23:14,946 --> 00:23:19,146
Speaker 1: champion Cincinnati Bengals. He's one of the great young offensive

452
00:23:19,186 --> 00:23:21,826
Speaker 1: minds in football, and he's also a hell of a

453
00:23:21,866 --> 00:23:25,506
Speaker 1: mentor and teacher. Took both quarterbacks and skill position players

454
00:23:25,506 --> 00:23:28,066
Speaker 1: and offensive linemen alike, ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome in

455
00:23:28,186 --> 00:23:31,586
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan from the Cincinnati Bengals. Awesome, good to be here.

456
00:23:31,626 --> 00:23:34,746
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, dude, I love having you on. Uh, this

457
00:23:34,826 --> 00:23:37,506
Speaker 1: is great. And as we're recording this where two days

458
00:23:37,506 --> 00:23:40,666
Speaker 1: removed from what was hyped as the rematch of all

459
00:23:40,746 --> 00:23:43,586
Speaker 1: rematches and really played out as the heck of a game.

460
00:23:43,786 --> 00:23:45,946
Speaker 1: And I came away from it thinking this Bengals team,

461
00:23:46,066 --> 00:23:49,906
Speaker 1: they don't waiver, they don't quiver, and that quarterback is something.

462
00:23:49,946 --> 00:23:51,706
Speaker 1: What was your takeaway? And now that we're forty eight

463
00:23:51,706 --> 00:23:54,306
Speaker 1: hours removed from the big win against the Chiefs on Sunday,

464
00:23:54,906 --> 00:23:58,786
Speaker 1: the same things. You know. It really was excellent performance

465
00:23:58,826 --> 00:24:00,906
Speaker 1: by Joe probably playing the quarterback position as good as

466
00:24:00,946 --> 00:24:04,066
Speaker 1: anybody in football right now. Uh, we go as he goes,

467
00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:07,306
Speaker 1: and his ability to stay calming him amen um and

468
00:24:07,346 --> 00:24:09,906
Speaker 1: make clutch plays when when clutch players are required are

469
00:24:10,226 --> 00:24:12,866
Speaker 1: are one of his great strengths. And so you get

470
00:24:12,866 --> 00:24:15,266
Speaker 1: a chance to play that team at home. Uh, you know,

471
00:24:15,386 --> 00:24:18,226
Speaker 1: nine and nine and three football team and are probably

472
00:24:18,266 --> 00:24:19,466
Speaker 1: arguing me the best team in the a f C.

473
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Speaker 1: And I thought we answered the bell and showed that

474
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Speaker 1: we're for real, and we're contenders in the in the

475
00:24:23,986 --> 00:24:25,906
Speaker 1: a f C and hopefully for the for the whole,

476
00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:28,746
Speaker 1: for the whole thing. You're awesome. We're gonna get into

477
00:24:28,786 --> 00:24:30,786
Speaker 1: your whole story and what you're all about. But you

478
00:24:30,826 --> 00:24:33,906
Speaker 1: mentioned Joe, you know, Joe Burrow to act said yesterday

479
00:24:33,986 --> 00:24:36,466
Speaker 1: on the show, I'm like, he's so dialed in. It

480
00:24:36,466 --> 00:24:38,786
Speaker 1: almost seems like he's unflappable at points. I think he's

481
00:24:38,786 --> 00:24:41,106
Speaker 1: like almost a robot or an alien, and that he

482
00:24:41,186 --> 00:24:44,226
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to go up or down. He's just so

483
00:24:44,506 --> 00:24:47,746
Speaker 1: laser focus. What's it like prepping for games with Joe

484
00:24:47,786 --> 00:24:50,106
Speaker 1: Burrow and then when the bullets are flying in the

485
00:24:50,186 --> 00:24:52,666
Speaker 1: actual moments within the sixty minutes, what's it like being

486
00:24:52,666 --> 00:24:55,506
Speaker 1: able to coach him and really be in his ear. Yeah,

487
00:24:55,546 --> 00:24:57,146
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun getting ready for games because

488
00:24:57,186 --> 00:24:59,386
Speaker 1: he's he's he is super dialed in. I mean during

489
00:24:59,386 --> 00:25:02,226
Speaker 1: the week, it's he's got a laser focus all the time.

490
00:25:02,506 --> 00:25:04,466
Speaker 1: How you see him on game days is really how

491
00:25:04,466 --> 00:25:06,746
Speaker 1: he is in the meeting room on the practice feel

492
00:25:07,386 --> 00:25:10,946
Speaker 1: his ability to focus and compartmentalize and get ready for

493
00:25:10,986 --> 00:25:13,786
Speaker 1: a game is maybe one of the best I've been around,

494
00:25:13,786 --> 00:25:16,546
Speaker 1: and I've been around some good ones, and UM, you

495
00:25:16,586 --> 00:25:18,826
Speaker 1: know that that type of intensity is is fun to

496
00:25:18,826 --> 00:25:21,506
Speaker 1: be around. It might not be for everybody, um, but

497
00:25:21,586 --> 00:25:24,266
Speaker 1: that's that's what makes him great. And and he's he's

498
00:25:24,266 --> 00:25:27,066
Speaker 1: growing and learning and becoming a more mature quarterback kind

499
00:25:27,066 --> 00:25:29,186
Speaker 1: of every week that goes on. And it's been really

500
00:25:29,186 --> 00:25:31,106
Speaker 1: fun to see his growth from the start to the finish.

501
00:25:31,626 --> 00:25:33,746
Speaker 1: Now we're we're you know we're at right now from

502
00:25:33,746 --> 00:25:36,586
Speaker 1: when we drafted him. So, UM, you know it's intense

503
00:25:36,626 --> 00:25:37,906
Speaker 1: and that's the way you wanted to be when you're

504
00:25:37,906 --> 00:25:41,626
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks like that. We love stories here on the pod.

505
00:25:41,826 --> 00:25:45,226
Speaker 1: And I remember when you guys had that first overall pick.

506
00:25:45,546 --> 00:25:47,986
Speaker 1: Zack and I were talking and there was Herbert and

507
00:25:47,986 --> 00:25:50,066
Speaker 1: there was two uh. And now that it's two and

508
00:25:50,106 --> 00:25:52,026
Speaker 1: a half years removed, I can tell you at the

509
00:25:52,106 --> 00:25:55,946
Speaker 1: combine in February or March, he's like Burrows the dude,

510
00:25:56,066 --> 00:25:58,466
Speaker 1: and and he wasn't giving me away any government secrets.

511
00:25:58,466 --> 00:26:00,866
Speaker 1: You guys had the number one pick and he's like, bro,

512
00:26:01,346 --> 00:26:03,986
Speaker 1: and the conviction that he had back then, and that

513
00:26:04,106 --> 00:26:07,626
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor the head coach, he's like, it's just give

514
00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:12,626
Speaker 1: me your best Joe Burrow, either scouting or pre draft interaction,

515
00:26:12,786 --> 00:26:15,186
Speaker 1: either looking at my LSU like, when did you guys

516
00:26:15,306 --> 00:26:17,426
Speaker 1: know in that building that as much as we love

517
00:26:17,426 --> 00:26:18,586
Speaker 1: these other guys and they might go on to be

518
00:26:18,626 --> 00:26:22,146
Speaker 1: bigger and better than Burrow someday, some far time away. Um,

519
00:26:22,266 --> 00:26:24,986
Speaker 1: that you knew Burrow with the guy for the Cincinnati Bengals. Uh,

520
00:26:25,266 --> 00:26:27,866
Speaker 1: we just we saw the I mean I knew when

521
00:26:27,866 --> 00:26:30,146
Speaker 1: I watched him play in the college playoff. Um, And

522
00:26:30,186 --> 00:26:32,386
Speaker 1: we were obviously getting close to picking at number one,

523
00:26:32,386 --> 00:26:35,946
Speaker 1: and once we had cemented that pick, after watching those games,

524
00:26:36,186 --> 00:26:37,786
Speaker 1: you come away with the guy that You're like, Wow,

525
00:26:37,826 --> 00:26:43,386
Speaker 1: this guy unflappable, great creator. Um, you could tell the

526
00:26:43,386 --> 00:26:46,626
Speaker 1: guys that LS you respected him. What an incredible journey

527
00:26:46,666 --> 00:26:48,706
Speaker 1: from going to Ohio State and then being able to

528
00:26:48,826 --> 00:26:50,626
Speaker 1: win over the l s U locker room in a

529
00:26:50,666 --> 00:26:52,866
Speaker 1: really short amount of time. And that's what we needed

530
00:26:52,866 --> 00:26:55,146
Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati. We needed a player that had that ability.

531
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Speaker 1: And after watching that, I was pretty much sold. Obviously,

532
00:26:58,026 --> 00:27:00,946
Speaker 1: we did our homework, we evaluated everybody, but that was

533
00:27:00,986 --> 00:27:02,546
Speaker 1: the moment where I was like, I think this is

534
00:27:02,586 --> 00:27:05,186
Speaker 1: the guy for us. And the best part was when

535
00:27:05,226 --> 00:27:07,346
Speaker 1: we you know, that was COVID year, so we had

536
00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:10,306
Speaker 1: all kinds of restrictions and hadn't really got a chance

537
00:27:10,346 --> 00:27:12,426
Speaker 1: to see him. He didn't have a pro day, um,

538
00:27:12,666 --> 00:27:14,626
Speaker 1: and so everything was virtual. So the first time we

539
00:27:14,666 --> 00:27:17,026
Speaker 1: got to see him in person was at the combine

540
00:27:17,066 --> 00:27:19,906
Speaker 1: for our short you know, our short top top fifty

541
00:27:19,946 --> 00:27:24,026
Speaker 1: meetings that we get there, um, and he was very

542
00:27:24,066 --> 00:27:26,626
Speaker 1: much himself. He had no nerves, He kind of knew

543
00:27:26,666 --> 00:27:29,586
Speaker 1: what was coming, and we all walked out of that meeting.

544
00:27:29,626 --> 00:27:32,466
Speaker 1: I think everybody in that room thinking that's what it's

545
00:27:32,466 --> 00:27:35,266
Speaker 1: supposed to look like. You know, that's that's the guy.

546
00:27:35,386 --> 00:27:38,386
Speaker 1: So it's a good feeling when that happens. Now, take

547
00:27:38,506 --> 00:27:41,346
Speaker 1: us through last year's playoff run, Um, what you learned

548
00:27:41,346 --> 00:27:43,426
Speaker 1: about him there, and what's your best story from Burrow

549
00:27:43,466 --> 00:27:47,626
Speaker 1: either in the Tennessee game or you know, the following

550
00:27:47,706 --> 00:27:50,346
Speaker 1: week where you guys have another victory, and then of

551
00:27:50,386 --> 00:27:52,706
Speaker 1: course in the a f C Championship game when you

552
00:27:52,706 --> 00:27:54,906
Speaker 1: play against the Chiefs. Yeah, I think the n f

553
00:27:54,946 --> 00:27:58,226
Speaker 1: C Championship game was was awesome. It was uh, you know,

554
00:27:58,346 --> 00:28:00,426
Speaker 1: having to come back from that deficit, you know, we

555
00:28:00,466 --> 00:28:02,706
Speaker 1: had to come back for him, just to see him

556
00:28:03,066 --> 00:28:05,626
Speaker 1: on the sidelines he just you knew as soon as

557
00:28:05,666 --> 00:28:08,386
Speaker 1: he walked on a few we had a shot. And

558
00:28:08,946 --> 00:28:12,186
Speaker 1: everything that he did in that game was incredibly impressive.

559
00:28:12,226 --> 00:28:14,386
Speaker 1: The plays that he created. You know, he slipped out

560
00:28:14,386 --> 00:28:18,066
Speaker 1: of two of Chris Jones probably sure sacks Um. But

561
00:28:18,146 --> 00:28:20,346
Speaker 1: my favorite story was really from the first Kansas City

562
00:28:20,386 --> 00:28:22,186
Speaker 1: game when we played him here at home to when

563
00:28:22,186 --> 00:28:24,746
Speaker 1: they have seen the anf C North and he came

564
00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:26,946
Speaker 1: to the sidelines and we threw we threw a pressure

565
00:28:27,026 --> 00:28:30,506
Speaker 1: out to the left side to to um teller Boyd,

566
00:28:30,586 --> 00:28:33,106
Speaker 1: and he knew as soon as he came back to

567
00:28:33,106 --> 00:28:35,026
Speaker 1: the sideline he said, Hey, Jamar, next time I throw this,

568
00:28:36,026 --> 00:28:37,546
Speaker 1: just be ready down the sideline and say he's not

569
00:28:37,586 --> 00:28:39,386
Speaker 1: getting enough with We're not gonna They're not gonna be

570
00:28:39,386 --> 00:28:41,386
Speaker 1: able to cover you. And so we come back to

571
00:28:41,426 --> 00:28:43,826
Speaker 1: that play probably a series or two later, and he

572
00:28:43,866 --> 00:28:45,826
Speaker 1: throws it right down the right down the sideline. The

573
00:28:45,866 --> 00:28:49,466
Speaker 1: Jamar for for you know, probably touched down so in

574
00:28:49,506 --> 00:28:51,546
Speaker 1: real time that hey, if I'm doing this, Boyd play,

575
00:28:51,586 --> 00:28:53,106
Speaker 1: I see Jamar in the corner of my eye like

576
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:55,146
Speaker 1: that's going to be open. Yeah, And he came to

577
00:28:55,186 --> 00:28:57,826
Speaker 1: the sideline told Jamar, told us to call it again

578
00:28:57,986 --> 00:29:00,546
Speaker 1: and we did and he and he answered it with

579
00:29:00,586 --> 00:29:03,506
Speaker 1: a with a huge touchdown. So, um, things like that

580
00:29:03,586 --> 00:29:06,106
Speaker 1: happened with him every game where he sees, he sees

581
00:29:06,146 --> 00:29:09,026
Speaker 1: things happening. He's got incredible vision and understanding of what

582
00:29:09,146 --> 00:29:12,346
Speaker 1: defenses are trying to do, whether it located on the field. Um,

583
00:29:12,386 --> 00:29:14,346
Speaker 1: and he's got great feedback and he knows exactly how

584
00:29:14,386 --> 00:29:16,786
Speaker 1: I wants to attack a team, especially as the game unfolds,

585
00:29:16,786 --> 00:29:20,186
Speaker 1: and um, you know he's he said even this week

586
00:29:20,226 --> 00:29:22,266
Speaker 1: and ready for the Chiefs that you know they're there,

587
00:29:22,826 --> 00:29:25,266
Speaker 1: they're rush lanes. We're going to leave him some opportunities

588
00:29:25,306 --> 00:29:27,666
Speaker 1: to create some plays, and he saw him he rushed

589
00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:31,186
Speaker 1: for ten times for forty or fifty yards and some

590
00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:33,426
Speaker 1: some big play. So he just got a great feel

591
00:29:33,466 --> 00:29:35,466
Speaker 1: for the game and what he were what he can

592
00:29:35,466 --> 00:29:37,546
Speaker 1: do to win a games. Has been his most impressive

593
00:29:38,426 --> 00:29:40,946
Speaker 1: impressive trade so far, and the big moments he never

594
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:44,186
Speaker 1: shots away from him. Your offense is cool because you've

595
00:29:44,226 --> 00:29:47,026
Speaker 1: got obviously Burrow, the superstar, but we also have these

596
00:29:47,026 --> 00:29:49,386
Speaker 1: wide receivers and then of course the offensive line, the

597
00:29:49,386 --> 00:29:51,506
Speaker 1: big boys up front. But I thought this week was interesting,

598
00:29:52,026 --> 00:29:54,306
Speaker 1: you know, players in the Chiefs were chirping a little bit.

599
00:29:54,346 --> 00:29:56,186
Speaker 1: You guys were chirping back, and then the game starts

600
00:29:56,226 --> 00:29:59,186
Speaker 1: on Sunday and it's like this was a war and

601
00:29:59,466 --> 00:30:02,186
Speaker 1: that offense galvanized around each other. You guys were trailing.

602
00:30:02,266 --> 00:30:05,306
Speaker 1: He came back, tell us about this the identity and

603
00:30:05,346 --> 00:30:07,546
Speaker 1: maybe the culture and that locker room, especially from your

604
00:30:07,546 --> 00:30:10,146
Speaker 1: side of the ball, the offensive guys. Yeah, I think

605
00:30:10,146 --> 00:30:13,186
Speaker 1: we have a really tough minded team. You know, they

606
00:30:13,226 --> 00:30:14,986
Speaker 1: don't get to they don't get too up or down.

607
00:30:14,986 --> 00:30:17,626
Speaker 1: They're really consistent with their day to day preparation during

608
00:30:17,626 --> 00:30:20,186
Speaker 1: the week, which I think makes makes for a really

609
00:30:20,426 --> 00:30:22,866
Speaker 1: even keel team on game day. They know what to expect,

610
00:30:22,866 --> 00:30:25,706
Speaker 1: they know how the game's gonna unfold. I think they

611
00:30:25,706 --> 00:30:28,106
Speaker 1: do a great job of understanding how we're trying to

612
00:30:28,146 --> 00:30:31,146
Speaker 1: attack a team. But I think what really showed up

613
00:30:31,146 --> 00:30:32,826
Speaker 1: with the last two weeks against the Titans and the

614
00:30:32,866 --> 00:30:35,546
Speaker 1: Chiefs is I think we're a tough team, you know,

615
00:30:35,586 --> 00:30:37,906
Speaker 1: I think are I think we're willing to get down

616
00:30:37,906 --> 00:30:40,146
Speaker 1: and dirty with teams, and we can be physical upfront,

617
00:30:40,186 --> 00:30:42,266
Speaker 1: we can move the line of scrimmage, and our backs

618
00:30:42,346 --> 00:30:45,346
Speaker 1: run really hard. Um, they run really physical, and when

619
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Speaker 1: it was kind of you know where we get plumped

620
00:30:47,426 --> 00:30:50,786
Speaker 1: into that finesse uh label sometimes, but we're not a

621
00:30:50,786 --> 00:30:53,186
Speaker 1: finesse team. And I think that that's been fun for

622
00:30:53,266 --> 00:30:55,746
Speaker 1: us to discover this year is that we're we could be,

623
00:30:55,946 --> 00:30:58,146
Speaker 1: We could be as tough as required in the run game.

624
00:30:58,186 --> 00:31:00,266
Speaker 1: And those guys in front of really come along done

625
00:31:00,266 --> 00:31:02,226
Speaker 1: a nice job. But um, I love I love what

626
00:31:02,226 --> 00:31:04,586
Speaker 1: our guys are about. I love the way they play football. Yeah,

627
00:31:04,586 --> 00:31:07,266
Speaker 1: and they're deep, like mixing as I've touchdowns less than

628
00:31:07,306 --> 00:31:09,226
Speaker 1: a month ago and then now it's samaj p Ryan

629
00:31:09,266 --> 00:31:11,466
Speaker 1: back to back weeks with mixing and the concussion protocol

630
00:31:11,506 --> 00:31:14,066
Speaker 1: stepping up. I love that part of it. Before we

631
00:31:14,106 --> 00:31:17,826
Speaker 1: shift gears. Burrow his style, these these suits that I

632
00:31:17,826 --> 00:31:20,306
Speaker 1: couldn't pull off. You and Zack are two of the

633
00:31:20,346 --> 00:31:22,066
Speaker 1: most Yeah, you and Zach Taylor two of the most

634
00:31:22,106 --> 00:31:24,106
Speaker 1: humble guys. I think of Coach luin a rumo like

635
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:27,866
Speaker 1: you guys are in you know, extra extra large sweatshirts

636
00:31:27,946 --> 00:31:29,826
Speaker 1: with beards, and then you've got Joe Burrow and like

637
00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:32,906
Speaker 1: a leopard costume. Um what what do you guys joke

638
00:31:32,946 --> 00:31:34,506
Speaker 1: about it? Or is it just hey, you let Joe

639
00:31:34,546 --> 00:31:36,266
Speaker 1: b Joe and you don't even have that. You don't

640
00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:38,226
Speaker 1: even take the this out of it. I don't. I mean,

641
00:31:38,226 --> 00:31:39,826
Speaker 1: there's not much we're gonna say to him it's going

642
00:31:39,866 --> 00:31:42,066
Speaker 1: to change his mind. I think that's what's that's what's

643
00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:45,506
Speaker 1: great about Joe is he's unabashedly himself and he doesn't

644
00:31:45,546 --> 00:31:48,586
Speaker 1: really care really what anybody else thinks. Um. And you

645
00:31:48,586 --> 00:31:51,066
Speaker 1: know he always says all the time he doesn't have

646
00:31:51,146 --> 00:31:53,986
Speaker 1: fashion stense. He just think he likes things that, uh,

647
00:31:53,986 --> 00:31:55,706
Speaker 1: he feels are cool, and he just wears him and

648
00:31:55,826 --> 00:31:57,626
Speaker 1: for some reason he makes it work. I could never

649
00:31:57,666 --> 00:32:01,866
Speaker 1: pull off anything. Um, but that's what makes you pretty special.

650
00:32:01,866 --> 00:32:04,066
Speaker 1: That's what's what's fun about him is he's he is

651
00:32:05,146 --> 00:32:08,386
Speaker 1: himself all the time. He doesn't try to be anybody else. Um,

652
00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:10,546
Speaker 1: and he just kind of wears things that catch his

653
00:32:10,626 --> 00:32:12,906
Speaker 1: eye and some for some reason, everybody else seems to

654
00:32:12,906 --> 00:32:15,026
Speaker 1: think it's cool. So uh yeah, he gets a little

655
00:32:15,066 --> 00:32:17,386
Speaker 1: ribbing every now and again, but um, you know that's

656
00:32:17,466 --> 00:32:19,546
Speaker 1: that's part of it when you wear outlandish outfits. And

657
00:32:20,026 --> 00:32:22,026
Speaker 1: but he makes it works. Gonna say, as long as

658
00:32:22,026 --> 00:32:23,906
Speaker 1: you're winning in the end, you can smoke those cigars,

659
00:32:24,026 --> 00:32:28,946
Speaker 1: you know, like it works. Uh, your story is cool

660
00:32:28,986 --> 00:32:30,946
Speaker 1: to me. So you grew up in a football family.

661
00:32:30,986 --> 00:32:35,026
Speaker 1: Your father is legendary coach Bill Callahan. Um, you go

662
00:32:35,106 --> 00:32:37,106
Speaker 1: through high school, you go to U c l A.

663
00:32:37,386 --> 00:32:39,186
Speaker 1: You have to make a decision, what do I want

664
00:32:39,186 --> 00:32:42,546
Speaker 1: to do with my life, Brian Callahan, you decide I

665
00:32:42,586 --> 00:32:44,946
Speaker 1: want to go and follow my father's footsteps. Take us

666
00:32:44,946 --> 00:32:47,386
Speaker 1: through those first decisions to go into the line of coaching,

667
00:32:47,706 --> 00:32:52,146
Speaker 1: knowing just just how unique of profession that could be. Yeah,

668
00:32:52,706 --> 00:32:55,426
Speaker 1: it was. Actually I was. I was finishing up playing.

669
00:32:55,506 --> 00:32:57,866
Speaker 1: I was not a very good I was not a

670
00:32:57,946 --> 00:33:00,706
Speaker 1: high end football player, which is you know, most of

671
00:33:00,826 --> 00:33:02,786
Speaker 1: us that go into coaching usually can't play very well,

672
00:33:02,826 --> 00:33:07,226
Speaker 1: so we try to go coach. But I enjoy void football,

673
00:33:07,346 --> 00:33:09,626
Speaker 1: enjoy being around it, and I wanted to continue. And

674
00:33:09,666 --> 00:33:13,026
Speaker 1: I've initially thought I would go into like athletic director,

675
00:33:13,186 --> 00:33:15,746
Speaker 1: that kind of route in college and still be around

676
00:33:15,746 --> 00:33:18,746
Speaker 1: the game. But I also knew what coaching was like,

677
00:33:18,826 --> 00:33:22,266
Speaker 1: I knew what what it brought. I had no misconceptions

678
00:33:22,306 --> 00:33:24,506
Speaker 1: about how the career can go, and it can be

679
00:33:24,546 --> 00:33:26,426
Speaker 1: really really fun, it can be really really hard all

680
00:33:26,466 --> 00:33:29,426
Speaker 1: at the same time. So I was like, all right, well,

681
00:33:29,426 --> 00:33:31,586
Speaker 1: maybe I won't do coaching. Maybe I'll find something else.

682
00:33:31,626 --> 00:33:34,226
Speaker 1: And then as I was getting ready to graduate, UM,

683
00:33:34,306 --> 00:33:35,866
Speaker 1: Carl Darell, our head coach at the time at U

684
00:33:35,906 --> 00:33:37,186
Speaker 1: c l A. It said that, you know, we have

685
00:33:37,226 --> 00:33:40,426
Speaker 1: a graduate assistant opening here, UM, if you'd be interested.

686
00:33:40,706 --> 00:33:43,266
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, yeah, what the hell I mean,

687
00:33:43,266 --> 00:33:48,546
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Yeah, I'll get my graduate degree and uh

688
00:33:48,626 --> 00:33:51,306
Speaker 1: and see if I like coaching. And really, once I

689
00:33:51,346 --> 00:33:54,146
Speaker 1: made that decision that the rest of his history. I

690
00:33:54,146 --> 00:33:56,026
Speaker 1: I got bit by the bug. And I love coaching.

691
00:33:56,026 --> 00:33:58,466
Speaker 1: I love being a part of it. And I told

692
00:33:58,466 --> 00:33:59,946
Speaker 1: my dad that I wanted to get into it, and

693
00:33:59,986 --> 00:34:02,746
Speaker 1: he said, UM, well, if he goes, you know what

694
00:34:02,786 --> 00:34:05,186
Speaker 1: you're getting into, and if you want to do it,

695
00:34:05,186 --> 00:34:08,226
Speaker 1: I'll dothing I can to help him. Um, but you

696
00:34:08,306 --> 00:34:10,586
Speaker 1: just you know, you understand what you're getting into, right,

697
00:34:10,666 --> 00:34:12,746
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I think I do. Was he

698
00:34:12,786 --> 00:34:15,306
Speaker 1: flattered or was he like, son, what are you doing?

699
00:34:15,626 --> 00:34:17,626
Speaker 1: You know? Or maybe he said he was the ultimate

700
00:34:17,626 --> 00:34:19,946
Speaker 1: honor that you wanted to do it. I think he was.

701
00:34:19,986 --> 00:34:21,826
Speaker 1: I think he was excited about the fact that I

702
00:34:21,906 --> 00:34:24,866
Speaker 1: was interested in in in doing it. Um, probably because

703
00:34:24,866 --> 00:34:27,586
Speaker 1: he knew he could he could help me along and uh,

704
00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:29,666
Speaker 1: you know, he's obviously been my biggest mentor and the

705
00:34:29,666 --> 00:34:32,546
Speaker 1: biggest influence in my coaching career, and so I think

706
00:34:32,546 --> 00:34:35,866
Speaker 1: he felt some pride and that some some connection in that,

707
00:34:35,946 --> 00:34:38,786
Speaker 1: which has been great. Um. It's how we've always connected

708
00:34:38,906 --> 00:34:40,506
Speaker 1: is through football. And you know, it's like some guys

709
00:34:40,586 --> 00:34:42,906
Speaker 1: go fishing with their dads and my dad and I

710
00:34:42,946 --> 00:34:45,866
Speaker 1: talked about football and it's great and I love it,

711
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,786
Speaker 1: and it's it's been a it's been a really really

712
00:34:47,826 --> 00:34:50,746
Speaker 1: fun process of growing through it and talking to him

713
00:34:50,786 --> 00:34:52,546
Speaker 1: all the time about all the things and teams and

714
00:34:52,586 --> 00:34:55,866
Speaker 1: games and scheme, and um, it's been great. My mom

715
00:34:55,986 --> 00:34:57,706
Speaker 1: was the one that wasn't so happy about it when

716
00:34:57,706 --> 00:35:01,426
Speaker 1: I told her, Um, she said, she said, you're gonna

717
00:35:01,426 --> 00:35:02,586
Speaker 1: get to de grease from U C l A. And

718
00:35:02,586 --> 00:35:05,426
Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, And I said, um, I think

719
00:35:05,426 --> 00:35:06,986
Speaker 1: I am. I think I am gonna do it. She

720
00:35:07,066 --> 00:35:10,306
Speaker 1: wasn't as happy for me, I don't think at the time,

721
00:35:10,506 --> 00:35:12,026
Speaker 1: because she's the one that's got to do all the

722
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,266
Speaker 1: hard lifting for coaching a move and the family and

723
00:35:14,866 --> 00:35:17,026
Speaker 1: selling houses and you know, we moved quite a bit

724
00:35:17,066 --> 00:35:19,706
Speaker 1: obviously over the years. But I got lucky to to

725
00:35:19,786 --> 00:35:22,706
Speaker 1: finish my high school in one spot. But yeah, coaching

726
00:35:22,786 --> 00:35:25,586
Speaker 1: is coaching is a very rewarding profession. It's also very

727
00:35:25,586 --> 00:35:28,066
Speaker 1: hard one. When he when he was coach of the Raiders,

728
00:35:28,346 --> 00:35:32,306
Speaker 1: um as the head coach, Rich Gannon was the quarterback.

729
00:35:32,506 --> 00:35:34,946
Speaker 1: Did you get any interaction with ganex MVP Seas and

730
00:35:34,946 --> 00:35:37,306
Speaker 1: He's like, you're so good with quarterbacks and we're gonna

731
00:35:37,306 --> 00:35:39,506
Speaker 1: get into it. Like your history with quarterbacks is incredible.

732
00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:41,506
Speaker 1: Did you have any as a high school kid, had

733
00:35:41,506 --> 00:35:44,706
Speaker 1: any relationship to Rich Gannon who was winning MVP awards? Yeah,

734
00:35:44,786 --> 00:35:46,946
Speaker 1: I did. In fact, that was you know, that's always

735
00:35:46,946 --> 00:35:49,226
Speaker 1: been the most fun part of growing up a coaches kid,

736
00:35:49,266 --> 00:35:50,626
Speaker 1: which I think is you talked to guys that have

737
00:35:50,666 --> 00:35:53,546
Speaker 1: gotten into coaching over the years. Um, that's what they

738
00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:56,106
Speaker 1: That's what draws into it because all I've ever known

739
00:35:56,226 --> 00:35:59,466
Speaker 1: is practice fields and locker rooms and meeting rooms, and

740
00:35:59,506 --> 00:36:01,626
Speaker 1: I've just been around it forever. And by the time

741
00:36:01,666 --> 00:36:03,666
Speaker 1: I got to high school, you know, I've been bitten

742
00:36:03,666 --> 00:36:06,746
Speaker 1: by the football bug. I was enjoyed playing, I'm joyed

743
00:36:06,786 --> 00:36:09,506
Speaker 1: the process of it all. And um I started hanging

744
00:36:09,506 --> 00:36:12,266
Speaker 1: out at mini camps and training camp. I worked at

745
00:36:12,266 --> 00:36:14,266
Speaker 1: training camp when I was in high school. UM, and

746
00:36:14,306 --> 00:36:16,346
Speaker 1: so all those years I was up there, I got

747
00:36:16,426 --> 00:36:19,226
Speaker 1: to sit in meetings with Rich and John grun And

748
00:36:19,226 --> 00:36:22,146
Speaker 1: and my dad, and those were really really formative times

749
00:36:22,186 --> 00:36:24,986
Speaker 1: for me. Um, just as a as I reflect back

750
00:36:25,026 --> 00:36:27,626
Speaker 1: on all the lessons I learned, probably subconsciously more than

751
00:36:27,626 --> 00:36:29,986
Speaker 1: anything else, as you look back at and the things

752
00:36:29,986 --> 00:36:32,906
Speaker 1: that you heard and saw and and and observed, everything

753
00:36:32,906 --> 00:36:35,226
Speaker 1: you just sort of learned through observing. And it was

754
00:36:35,226 --> 00:36:37,746
Speaker 1: an incredible time. Rich was really kind to me. He

755
00:36:37,546 --> 00:36:40,386
Speaker 1: he invested a little bit of time in me, and um,

756
00:36:40,426 --> 00:36:42,346
Speaker 1: you know, I'd ask him questions and he'd answer him

757
00:36:42,386 --> 00:36:44,026
Speaker 1: and he was really great for me as a as

758
00:36:44,066 --> 00:36:46,426
Speaker 1: a like a sixteen year old seventeen year old kid,

759
00:36:46,466 --> 00:36:49,186
Speaker 1: and Rich Cannon, the MVP the league is answering your questions. Yeah,

760
00:36:49,266 --> 00:36:51,746
Speaker 1: it was pretty awesome. UM. And it's you know, and

761
00:36:51,746 --> 00:36:54,186
Speaker 1: it's there's there's coaches that were there at the time

762
00:36:54,226 --> 00:36:56,106
Speaker 1: that that gave me time. You know. Jim Harbaugh was

763
00:36:56,106 --> 00:36:59,026
Speaker 1: there as a quality control coach. Uh. David Shaw was

764
00:36:59,066 --> 00:37:00,826
Speaker 1: there as a quality control coach at the time. And

765
00:37:00,826 --> 00:37:02,466
Speaker 1: so those are the guys that I, you know, I

766
00:37:02,466 --> 00:37:04,386
Speaker 1: would ask questions and be around and they were always

767
00:37:04,426 --> 00:37:06,906
Speaker 1: really generous with their time and all all of those

768
00:37:06,946 --> 00:37:09,026
Speaker 1: people at as I made a pretty big impact on

769
00:37:09,106 --> 00:37:11,346
Speaker 1: me as a as a young football player. Um. And

770
00:37:11,346 --> 00:37:12,946
Speaker 1: there's a lot of lessons I drawed back on from

771
00:37:12,986 --> 00:37:15,706
Speaker 1: that time to time as a being around those types

772
00:37:15,706 --> 00:37:18,586
Speaker 1: of people and players. UM. You know, as sixteen seventeen

773
00:37:18,626 --> 00:37:20,706
Speaker 1: year old kid, you have one of the cool like

774
00:37:21,106 --> 00:37:23,226
Speaker 1: reputations in the league as a quarterback guru. And it's

775
00:37:23,226 --> 00:37:26,586
Speaker 1: not because you have no but it is like I'm

776
00:37:26,626 --> 00:37:28,266
Speaker 1: gonna go through the list and you're gonna take me

777
00:37:28,306 --> 00:37:31,226
Speaker 1: through it. But you get somewhere and it's all different types.

778
00:37:31,786 --> 00:37:34,026
Speaker 1: The first real quarterback I'm looking at your resume here.

779
00:37:34,146 --> 00:37:36,586
Speaker 1: You go to Denver and it's you know, the Broncos.

780
00:37:36,626 --> 00:37:39,546
Speaker 1: Hears with John Fox and it's before Peyton gets there.

781
00:37:39,906 --> 00:37:43,506
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow's the quarterback and he goes in mid season

782
00:37:43,626 --> 00:37:45,906
Speaker 1: and you guys went a little run and Tebow time

783
00:37:45,946 --> 00:37:48,106
Speaker 1: was a thing. You had to draw up an offense

784
00:37:48,586 --> 00:37:51,346
Speaker 1: and nothing against Tebow's skills, but you have to drop

785
00:37:51,346 --> 00:37:54,786
Speaker 1: an offense that accentuated his strengths. What was that like

786
00:37:54,826 --> 00:37:56,786
Speaker 1: as a young coach and what are your memories of

787
00:37:56,906 --> 00:37:59,346
Speaker 1: the Tebow Broncos and Tebow time, and you know, the

788
00:37:59,386 --> 00:38:02,066
Speaker 1: mania that really became of it. It was. It was

789
00:38:02,266 --> 00:38:06,626
Speaker 1: one of the most wild series of games and events

790
00:38:06,626 --> 00:38:08,466
Speaker 1: that I've probably even never been a part of. Just

791
00:38:09,346 --> 00:38:12,746
Speaker 1: the momentum that that carried, the adulation that he received,

792
00:38:13,306 --> 00:38:16,226
Speaker 1: the ways that we won those games were crazy. Um,

793
00:38:16,386 --> 00:38:19,586
Speaker 1: all kinds of wild stuff would happen, and um, it

794
00:38:19,706 --> 00:38:22,186
Speaker 1: was just it was a really fun time to be

795
00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:23,706
Speaker 1: a you know, I think it was my second year

796
00:38:23,706 --> 00:38:25,546
Speaker 1: in the league that happened, and I was like, is

797
00:38:25,546 --> 00:38:28,186
Speaker 1: this always what this is like? You know? And um,

798
00:38:28,266 --> 00:38:29,666
Speaker 1: but I think we had a really good set of

799
00:38:29,746 --> 00:38:32,466
Speaker 1: coaches there. I think that's that was a phenomenal offensive staff.

800
00:38:32,866 --> 00:38:34,826
Speaker 1: Was on that staff. I'm picturing that the winds. I

801
00:38:34,826 --> 00:38:36,986
Speaker 1: don't remember the staff. Yeah, it was. Mike McCoy was

802
00:38:36,986 --> 00:38:40,506
Speaker 1: off as coordinator. Adam Gates was was the quarterbacks coach.

803
00:38:41,146 --> 00:38:45,546
Speaker 1: Um uh Tyke Tolbert was a receiver coach. Eric Studisville

804
00:38:45,586 --> 00:38:48,186
Speaker 1: was a running back coach. Clancy Barron was our tight

805
00:38:48,306 --> 00:38:51,906
Speaker 1: ends coach. Um and and Dave Magazoo was our offensive

806
00:38:51,906 --> 00:38:53,506
Speaker 1: line coach. So we had we had a lot of

807
00:38:53,546 --> 00:38:55,666
Speaker 1: veteran coaches, a lot of experience guys that have gone

808
00:38:55,746 --> 00:38:58,706
Speaker 1: to be head coaches in the NFL, and um, you know,

809
00:38:58,786 --> 00:39:00,786
Speaker 1: those guys kind of raised me if you will. You know,

810
00:39:00,866 --> 00:39:03,146
Speaker 1: those are the guys that I invested in my career

811
00:39:03,266 --> 00:39:05,626
Speaker 1: at a young point, especially you know, Eric Studisville and

812
00:39:05,746 --> 00:39:09,666
Speaker 1: Adam Gayson, like those guys really invested in in me

813
00:39:10,106 --> 00:39:13,426
Speaker 1: and trying to feel to find an offense that was

814
00:39:13,626 --> 00:39:15,866
Speaker 1: really you know, we were doing things then that not

815
00:39:15,946 --> 00:39:17,746
Speaker 1: a lot of people were doing the NFL. We had

816
00:39:17,786 --> 00:39:20,106
Speaker 1: transitioned to a little bit more quarterback run games, some

817
00:39:20,186 --> 00:39:22,786
Speaker 1: of the option game. Um, you know, I had coached

818
00:39:22,826 --> 00:39:24,786
Speaker 1: and played in an option offense in high school, so

819
00:39:25,146 --> 00:39:26,506
Speaker 1: I felt like I might have had a little bit

820
00:39:26,546 --> 00:39:29,306
Speaker 1: of uh experience that was valuable and I could have

821
00:39:29,466 --> 00:39:31,626
Speaker 1: some input. And you know, I just thought we did

822
00:39:31,626 --> 00:39:34,346
Speaker 1: a great job collectively of finding ways to highlight tim

823
00:39:34,426 --> 00:39:36,826
Speaker 1: strengths and um, you know, find a way to win

824
00:39:36,866 --> 00:39:38,426
Speaker 1: a bunch of games, and we did. We found a

825
00:39:38,466 --> 00:39:40,586
Speaker 1: way to the playoffs in that Pittsburgh game with the

826
00:39:40,586 --> 00:39:43,546
Speaker 1: walkoff touchdown and did it was one of the probably

827
00:39:43,586 --> 00:39:45,386
Speaker 1: one of the cooler moments in my career. So that

828
00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:47,266
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun It's funny because I remember

829
00:39:47,306 --> 00:39:49,106
Speaker 1: the Dolphins when I'm not even I'm not looking at

830
00:39:49,106 --> 00:39:51,666
Speaker 1: a spreadsheet or anything. Off time I had Dolphins game.

831
00:39:51,706 --> 00:39:53,346
Speaker 1: It comes in, you guys, when I remember the Jets

832
00:39:53,426 --> 00:39:57,026
Speaker 1: Thursday night game was wild win that one. But I

833
00:39:57,106 --> 00:40:00,626
Speaker 1: remember specifically a Bears game where the late Marian Barbera

834
00:40:00,666 --> 00:40:04,186
Speaker 1: fumbles late and it's like these things aren't supposed to happen.

835
00:40:04,346 --> 00:40:07,066
Speaker 1: Tebow was getting opportunities and it was like this is

836
00:40:07,386 --> 00:40:10,186
Speaker 1: written in the stars. And then the Pittsburgh playoff game

837
00:40:10,746 --> 00:40:13,186
Speaker 1: where famously, on the first playoff overtime he had's the

838
00:40:13,266 --> 00:40:16,346
Speaker 1: late de Marius Thomas on a pass and eventually the

839
00:40:16,426 --> 00:40:18,546
Speaker 1: luck ran out, and not luck, but just the Patriots

840
00:40:18,546 --> 00:40:19,626
Speaker 1: were too good and they beat you guys on a

841
00:40:19,666 --> 00:40:22,066
Speaker 1: Saturday night though, like I think Gronk had seventeen touchdowns.

842
00:40:22,106 --> 00:40:25,506
Speaker 1: But this was pretty good that day, I think so.

843
00:40:25,706 --> 00:40:28,666
Speaker 1: But it was a great run. And then the following

844
00:40:28,786 --> 00:40:31,306
Speaker 1: year it's like all right, for a couple years, it's

845
00:40:31,386 --> 00:40:33,746
Speaker 1: it's Peyton Manning and you couldn't think of a more

846
00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:36,226
Speaker 1: different thing of like young Tebow trying to draw it

847
00:40:36,346 --> 00:40:37,826
Speaker 1: up in the in this in the dirt, like how

848
00:40:37,866 --> 00:40:40,466
Speaker 1: we gonna make this work too? Then the ultimate Sheriff

849
00:40:40,786 --> 00:40:45,426
Speaker 1: in the ultimate cerebral quarterback shifting from Tebow to Manning.

850
00:40:46,346 --> 00:40:48,306
Speaker 1: How does it work with Peyton Manning? And then how

851
00:40:48,346 --> 00:40:49,986
Speaker 1: do you get a voice with Peyton Manning when he's

852
00:40:49,986 --> 00:40:51,786
Speaker 1: a guy who's got so many accomplishments and it was

853
00:40:51,906 --> 00:40:56,466
Speaker 1: obviously had years of wisdom in that brain of his. Yeah,

854
00:40:56,466 --> 00:40:58,346
Speaker 1: I think the starting point for me is I had

855
00:40:58,386 --> 00:41:01,426
Speaker 1: to earn I had to earn his trust, um in

856
00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:05,226
Speaker 1: the in the football world of did I do the work?

857
00:41:05,546 --> 00:41:07,226
Speaker 1: Can I do the work, can I keep up? Do

858
00:41:07,346 --> 00:41:09,666
Speaker 1: I understand? Can I help him? Um? And I had

859
00:41:09,706 --> 00:41:12,226
Speaker 1: to earn that respect, um and earn that trust from

860
00:41:12,306 --> 00:41:13,946
Speaker 1: him over over time, and I had to put the

861
00:41:13,986 --> 00:41:17,426
Speaker 1: work in And it was It was probably, um, the

862
00:41:17,586 --> 00:41:20,226
Speaker 1: most fun I've had coaching in terms of just the

863
00:41:20,826 --> 00:41:23,746
Speaker 1: pressure and expectation and intensity. Would he challenge you guys

864
00:41:23,826 --> 00:41:26,466
Speaker 1: like I feel like usually it's the coaches challenging the players.

865
00:41:26,506 --> 00:41:28,546
Speaker 1: But was painting picturing you and Adam Gaye in the

866
00:41:28,626 --> 00:41:30,426
Speaker 1: room and they just peppering you with questions. Yeah, that's

867
00:41:30,426 --> 00:41:32,626
Speaker 1: about what it was. And um, and there are all

868
00:41:32,746 --> 00:41:34,706
Speaker 1: questions that involved trying to win a football game, and

869
00:41:34,746 --> 00:41:37,426
Speaker 1: they it was everything about what he did every day

870
00:41:37,586 --> 00:41:40,026
Speaker 1: was trying to be great and trying to win as

871
00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:42,466
Speaker 1: many games as possible. And you walk into that meeting

872
00:41:42,546 --> 00:41:44,066
Speaker 1: room and you know, you're I'm in charge of the

873
00:41:44,106 --> 00:41:47,146
Speaker 1: breakdowns or uh. And and he'd come in and he'd say, hey,

874
00:41:47,386 --> 00:41:49,946
Speaker 1: go back to this game, go back to that first

875
00:41:50,026 --> 00:41:53,986
Speaker 1: game six weeks ago. And you called this coverage cover six.

876
00:41:54,026 --> 00:41:55,426
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's covered six. I think it's

877
00:41:55,466 --> 00:41:58,066
Speaker 1: too Tampa. And then you would have to defend yourself. Yeah,

878
00:41:58,066 --> 00:42:00,266
Speaker 1: because now you're in the corner. Yeah, all right, and

879
00:42:00,386 --> 00:42:02,106
Speaker 1: whether and whether or not you felt like you were

880
00:42:02,186 --> 00:42:04,306
Speaker 1: right or he was right. Um, and most of the

881
00:42:04,386 --> 00:42:07,426
Speaker 1: time you know he was right. But uh, that's how

882
00:42:07,506 --> 00:42:09,546
Speaker 1: you learned. And you learned that that was the type

883
00:42:09,586 --> 00:42:12,826
Speaker 1: of intensity that was needed all the time. Um, you know.

884
00:42:12,946 --> 00:42:14,986
Speaker 1: And I felt like over over the first part of

885
00:42:15,026 --> 00:42:17,946
Speaker 1: those years there, I earned his trust. The information I

886
00:42:18,026 --> 00:42:20,706
Speaker 1: gave him was accurate. Um, it was it was the

887
00:42:20,786 --> 00:42:22,986
Speaker 1: right information and he could use it in a game.

888
00:42:23,066 --> 00:42:25,506
Speaker 1: And UM, you know, I did everything I could to

889
00:42:25,866 --> 00:42:28,306
Speaker 1: try to help help us win and and help him

890
00:42:28,386 --> 00:42:30,986
Speaker 1: be prepared. And that was my role. Uh. And during

891
00:42:31,026 --> 00:42:32,506
Speaker 1: that time in Denver, and it was it was a

892
00:42:32,546 --> 00:42:35,026
Speaker 1: ton of fun. Let's go back to that Super Bowl

893
00:42:35,066 --> 00:42:38,106
Speaker 1: when you guys beat the Carolina Panthers. Obviously it's this

894
00:42:38,186 --> 00:42:41,786
Speaker 1: amazing moment. Uh, paying get the second Super Bowl. Your

895
00:42:41,826 --> 00:42:44,706
Speaker 1: memories of that run and uh what you take with

896
00:42:44,826 --> 00:42:47,866
Speaker 1: you now as you're in search of another Super Bowl ring. Yeah,

897
00:42:48,546 --> 00:42:50,906
Speaker 1: you know that was My memories are probably different than

898
00:42:51,066 --> 00:42:53,186
Speaker 1: some other people. Was just because that was that was

899
00:42:53,226 --> 00:42:55,626
Speaker 1: a hard season for him in particular. You know it

900
00:42:55,786 --> 00:42:59,026
Speaker 1: was he had had the planet fasciatists, he was injured,

901
00:42:59,466 --> 00:43:02,026
Speaker 1: Um brock Eyes Swaller had played, we had transitioned from

902
00:43:02,106 --> 00:43:06,106
Speaker 1: really his offense into a hybrid of of Gary Kubia

903
00:43:06,106 --> 00:43:08,786
Speaker 1: as his offense, and um, you know he was he

904
00:43:08,906 --> 00:43:11,706
Speaker 1: was battling the injury. He didn't play well early. Um.

905
00:43:11,746 --> 00:43:13,266
Speaker 1: It was just one of those seasons that you look

906
00:43:13,306 --> 00:43:15,666
Speaker 1: back and everybody talks about, you know, magical runs, and

907
00:43:15,826 --> 00:43:18,346
Speaker 1: there wasn't much magical about it. It was hard. Um,

908
00:43:18,466 --> 00:43:20,026
Speaker 1: there was a lot of ups and downs. And I

909
00:43:20,146 --> 00:43:23,266
Speaker 1: think that that prepared me for the You get to

910
00:43:23,386 --> 00:43:26,466
Speaker 1: these moments and seasons and they're not they're not easy,

911
00:43:26,706 --> 00:43:28,466
Speaker 1: and there is no magic, and it's a lot of

912
00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:30,866
Speaker 1: hard work. Um, and I think that that really prepared

913
00:43:30,946 --> 00:43:33,346
Speaker 1: me to handle these types of runs. As you get going,

914
00:43:33,386 --> 00:43:36,106
Speaker 1: there's gonna be ups and downs. Things aren't gonna go great. Um.

915
00:43:36,186 --> 00:43:38,626
Speaker 1: You always get those thirty minute TV shows at gloss

916
00:43:38,666 --> 00:43:40,266
Speaker 1: over all the things that go into it, and you

917
00:43:40,306 --> 00:43:44,026
Speaker 1: see that and you see all the confetti and all

918
00:43:44,066 --> 00:43:46,106
Speaker 1: the fun, but you realize that there was, you know,

919
00:43:46,186 --> 00:43:47,706
Speaker 1: a lot of things that went into that that that

920
00:43:47,826 --> 00:43:50,786
Speaker 1: weren't perfect and weren't always you didn't always feel like

921
00:43:50,826 --> 00:43:51,946
Speaker 1: you're on top of the world, and it was a

922
00:43:51,986 --> 00:43:53,786
Speaker 1: lot of work. And so I think that that's really

923
00:43:53,826 --> 00:43:55,586
Speaker 1: prepared me to to make the runs that we've had

924
00:43:55,626 --> 00:43:57,946
Speaker 1: here last year, and and ups and downs that we

925
00:43:58,026 --> 00:43:59,946
Speaker 1: had that season and to start this season as well.

926
00:44:00,026 --> 00:44:02,186
Speaker 1: That you just know that it's it's not perfect, and

927
00:44:02,266 --> 00:44:04,266
Speaker 1: it is hard, and it takes a ton of time

928
00:44:04,306 --> 00:44:07,226
Speaker 1: and attention and and work to get there. And at

929
00:44:07,266 --> 00:44:08,546
Speaker 1: the end of it, when you put a bow on

930
00:44:08,586 --> 00:44:10,706
Speaker 1: all of it, then it feels magical, but there's a

931
00:44:10,746 --> 00:44:12,106
Speaker 1: lot of work that goes into And I think that

932
00:44:12,226 --> 00:44:14,346
Speaker 1: was a really valuable lesson that year in two dozen

933
00:44:14,426 --> 00:44:16,866
Speaker 1: fifteen that, um, you know, and you gotta play your

934
00:44:16,906 --> 00:44:19,986
Speaker 1: best at the moment in the season when it's required,

935
00:44:20,026 --> 00:44:23,226
Speaker 1: which is usually December in the January, and that's where

936
00:44:23,266 --> 00:44:28,986
Speaker 1: you have to play your best football, all right. So

937
00:44:29,026 --> 00:44:33,186
Speaker 1: you go from Tebow, which was just ingenuity and and creativity,

938
00:44:33,306 --> 00:44:35,786
Speaker 1: go to pay In, which is cerebral, but you know,

939
00:44:35,826 --> 00:44:37,466
Speaker 1: one of the greatest ever do it. And then you

940
00:44:37,506 --> 00:44:41,106
Speaker 1: get Stafford in Detroit, who's just got the ultimate canon. Um,

941
00:44:41,786 --> 00:44:44,586
Speaker 1: your memories of Matthew Stafford, and when you went up

942
00:44:44,626 --> 00:44:46,506
Speaker 1: against him in the Super Bowl last year, were you

943
00:44:46,746 --> 00:44:48,706
Speaker 1: are you serious? Are we really doing this right now?

944
00:44:48,746 --> 00:44:51,226
Speaker 1: That's how I felt. Yeah, I just I have a

945
00:44:51,306 --> 00:44:54,786
Speaker 1: ton of respect for Matthew. He's an unbelievable competitor. Um.

946
00:44:55,146 --> 00:44:57,346
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's what you would you'd probably call

947
00:44:57,746 --> 00:44:59,506
Speaker 1: he's earn the right to be called a warrior, you know,

948
00:44:59,666 --> 00:45:01,746
Speaker 1: the things that he plays through, the toughness that he's

949
00:45:02,266 --> 00:45:05,906
Speaker 1: uh exhibited over his career, and the incredible pastor that

950
00:45:05,946 --> 00:45:07,946
Speaker 1: he's been for the time he's gotten in the league

951
00:45:07,986 --> 00:45:10,786
Speaker 1: and until now is um. You know, I think he's

952
00:45:10,866 --> 00:45:13,186
Speaker 1: a fantastic player. I loved working with him for you

953
00:45:13,466 --> 00:45:14,786
Speaker 1: for two years. It was a good run. We were

954
00:45:14,786 --> 00:45:17,386
Speaker 1: a pretty good offense those two years, made the playoffs,

955
00:45:17,466 --> 00:45:19,626
Speaker 1: one year, just missed at the second year before they

956
00:45:19,706 --> 00:45:22,786
Speaker 1: fired Jim Caldwell there. And uh, I love him as

957
00:45:22,826 --> 00:45:25,506
Speaker 1: a person. Um, I think he's an incredible player, and

958
00:45:25,626 --> 00:45:27,546
Speaker 1: we had a ton of fun and I like to

959
00:45:27,626 --> 00:45:29,826
Speaker 1: think I helped him a little bit um over those

960
00:45:29,906 --> 00:45:31,986
Speaker 1: years and and but he's I've always stayed in touch

961
00:45:31,986 --> 00:45:35,266
Speaker 1: with him, and you know, I was incredibly happy for

962
00:45:35,426 --> 00:45:38,306
Speaker 1: him that he had a chance to display his ability

963
00:45:38,386 --> 00:45:42,026
Speaker 1: to the world and uh and win a championship. Unfortunately

964
00:45:42,066 --> 00:45:45,506
Speaker 1: he came against at our expense here in Cincinnati. But um,

965
00:45:45,546 --> 00:45:46,946
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of guys that have more

966
00:45:46,946 --> 00:45:48,786
Speaker 1: respect for than Matthew. And I'm happy that he got

967
00:45:48,826 --> 00:45:51,826
Speaker 1: a chanced to put his talent on display and win

968
00:45:51,906 --> 00:45:54,306
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring. And whenever he decides to hang

969
00:45:54,386 --> 00:45:56,506
Speaker 1: him up, he's he's got that on the back of

970
00:45:56,586 --> 00:45:58,306
Speaker 1: his name as a super Bowl champion. I think that's

971
00:45:58,306 --> 00:46:01,026
Speaker 1: pretty great. He sure does. He've had Derek Carr as well,

972
00:46:01,066 --> 00:46:04,186
Speaker 1: You've had countless others. Who's the quarterback you haven't had

973
00:46:04,226 --> 00:46:06,626
Speaker 1: a chance to coach that You've always had admired from

974
00:46:06,666 --> 00:46:08,826
Speaker 1: afar or maybe I've gotten to know and you love

975
00:46:08,866 --> 00:46:11,026
Speaker 1: their game. If you were to say, here's a guy

976
00:46:11,426 --> 00:46:13,746
Speaker 1: in the league now previously that you just watch him

977
00:46:13,746 --> 00:46:15,466
Speaker 1: on tape, whether you were growing up or whether it

978
00:46:15,466 --> 00:46:17,146
Speaker 1: was when you were in the coaching and you're just like, gosh,

979
00:46:17,266 --> 00:46:19,666
Speaker 1: that guy he could sling it. Uh. You know, there's

980
00:46:19,666 --> 00:46:22,586
Speaker 1: so many unique players now. That's the quarterback position has

981
00:46:22,666 --> 00:46:25,306
Speaker 1: changed so much and there's so much variance and the

982
00:46:25,426 --> 00:46:28,706
Speaker 1: types of guys that have success. Um. I always think

983
00:46:28,746 --> 00:46:32,026
Speaker 1: that it's been fun to you know, fun to watch

984
00:46:32,146 --> 00:46:34,226
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert play. I think it's been fun to watch

985
00:46:34,306 --> 00:46:36,506
Speaker 1: Ji and Hurts find a find a niche and a

986
00:46:36,626 --> 00:46:38,346
Speaker 1: role and really play well. Those guys have been really

987
00:46:38,386 --> 00:46:41,546
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Um. You know, I I can't say

988
00:46:41,586 --> 00:46:45,306
Speaker 1: there's anybody that that would ever be more fun for

989
00:46:45,386 --> 00:46:47,666
Speaker 1: me to coach. Drew Brees was always my hero. Uh

990
00:46:47,946 --> 00:46:49,826
Speaker 1: is that right? Where is that from? You just love

991
00:46:49,906 --> 00:46:52,746
Speaker 1: the undersized quarterback? Just decision what that's That's kind of

992
00:46:52,786 --> 00:46:55,146
Speaker 1: what I fancied myself as as a as a young player.

993
00:46:55,226 --> 00:46:57,546
Speaker 1: I was a little bit undersized myself, and you know,

994
00:46:57,626 --> 00:46:59,986
Speaker 1: I didn't have a huge arm, but I was relatively accurate.

995
00:47:00,026 --> 00:47:02,226
Speaker 1: It was kind of where my strengths were. And um

996
00:47:02,466 --> 00:47:05,106
Speaker 1: actually followed him. You know he is at Perdue and

997
00:47:05,146 --> 00:47:07,266
Speaker 1: they went to the Rose Bowl. I was I wore

998
00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:08,986
Speaker 1: fifteen when I was in high school because I was

999
00:47:09,026 --> 00:47:11,346
Speaker 1: right around the same time. I was a sophomore and

1000
00:47:11,826 --> 00:47:14,426
Speaker 1: fifteen at Perdu and he would actually did one of

1001
00:47:14,466 --> 00:47:16,066
Speaker 1: our games last year. I had a chance time. I've

1002
00:47:16,066 --> 00:47:17,906
Speaker 1: never got a chance to meet him all the years

1003
00:47:17,906 --> 00:47:20,266
Speaker 1: I've been in the league. Yeah, the playoff game Raiders Bengals,

1004
00:47:20,306 --> 00:47:21,986
Speaker 1: he was on the call. Yeah, And I told him

1005
00:47:21,986 --> 00:47:23,866
Speaker 1: I just when we had a production meeting and I said, hey,

1006
00:47:23,906 --> 00:47:26,146
Speaker 1: before we started, just I have to pay this. I

1007
00:47:26,226 --> 00:47:29,386
Speaker 1: was like, you were my absolute hero growing up higholized

1008
00:47:29,386 --> 00:47:31,746
Speaker 1: everything about your game and it was cool he was.

1009
00:47:31,826 --> 00:47:33,626
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite players that I never got

1010
00:47:33,666 --> 00:47:35,066
Speaker 1: a chance to coach. And that would be the guy

1011
00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:37,346
Speaker 1: that you know, as a as a fan of quarterback

1012
00:47:37,426 --> 00:47:39,146
Speaker 1: played it. I always had a ton of respect for

1013
00:47:39,266 --> 00:47:41,866
Speaker 1: wely love watching him play the game. So I'm glad

1014
00:47:41,906 --> 00:47:43,386
Speaker 1: I got a chance to finally meet him and tell

1015
00:47:43,426 --> 00:47:45,106
Speaker 1: him that. But yeah, Drew Brees are probably the one

1016
00:47:45,626 --> 00:47:48,386
Speaker 1: full circle and we're gonna wrap it soon. But you know,

1017
00:47:48,466 --> 00:47:50,226
Speaker 1: we're top of mine and we're a topic of the

1018
00:47:50,266 --> 00:47:52,946
Speaker 1: day stuff. I'm not local media here, but go up

1019
00:47:52,946 --> 00:47:55,386
Speaker 1: against the Browns this following week and forget they match up,

1020
00:47:55,426 --> 00:47:58,226
Speaker 1: because that's one thing to me. I look at the

1021
00:47:58,346 --> 00:48:01,426
Speaker 1: ORG charts here the staffs. You're coaching against your dad.

1022
00:48:01,546 --> 00:48:03,146
Speaker 1: What is that week like? And now you get it

1023
00:48:03,226 --> 00:48:04,746
Speaker 1: two times a year. What's it like when you coach

1024
00:48:04,746 --> 00:48:07,066
Speaker 1: against your pops in an NFL game? Yeah? You know that,

1025
00:48:07,346 --> 00:48:10,266
Speaker 1: you know, kind of contrary to most coaches kids, I've

1026
00:48:10,306 --> 00:48:13,746
Speaker 1: never worked for my dad, um. And that was partially

1027
00:48:13,826 --> 00:48:16,586
Speaker 1: by design early on, and then obviously as my career

1028
00:48:16,586 --> 00:48:18,386
Speaker 1: has gone, I've always would have loved to work with them,

1029
00:48:18,426 --> 00:48:20,986
Speaker 1: but never had really had that opportunity line up for us.

1030
00:48:21,026 --> 00:48:23,666
Speaker 1: And we've actually ended up competing against each other more

1031
00:48:23,706 --> 00:48:27,066
Speaker 1: often then I think most coaches. Kids compete against their dads. Uh.

1032
00:48:27,306 --> 00:48:28,866
Speaker 1: And so there's a part of it that's really cool

1033
00:48:28,946 --> 00:48:30,746
Speaker 1: and really special that you get a chance to do that.

1034
00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:33,226
Speaker 1: And I can tell my kids that, you know, you know,

1035
00:48:33,506 --> 00:48:35,826
Speaker 1: dad and Grandpa are facing off today, and that's kind

1036
00:48:35,866 --> 00:48:37,986
Speaker 1: of a fun thing for them. They they play spot

1037
00:48:38,026 --> 00:48:41,386
Speaker 1: the Grandpa on TV when they try to find them. Um.

1038
00:48:41,586 --> 00:48:44,666
Speaker 1: But that part of its fun, the part where we

1039
00:48:44,666 --> 00:48:46,386
Speaker 1: actually have to compete in the same division for a

1040
00:48:46,466 --> 00:48:49,266
Speaker 1: division title, and you know, wins and losses matter, and

1041
00:48:49,586 --> 00:48:52,386
Speaker 1: you're having to go against your own dad when you're

1042
00:48:52,546 --> 00:48:54,186
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up my dad's biggest fan. Every

1043
00:48:54,266 --> 00:48:55,986
Speaker 1: team we ever coached for was always a team that

1044
00:48:56,026 --> 00:48:59,066
Speaker 1: I loved following. And uh, that part is not my favorite.

1045
00:48:59,306 --> 00:49:02,106
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy that as much. Um, and I don't.

1046
00:49:02,146 --> 00:49:04,226
Speaker 1: I don't particularly enjoy having a coach and the division

1047
00:49:04,266 --> 00:49:07,106
Speaker 1: against them. Yeah, it's it's very, very Twice a year

1048
00:49:07,226 --> 00:49:09,586
Speaker 1: is not my favorite. It's you know, we've gotten good

1049
00:49:09,626 --> 00:49:11,546
Speaker 1: at we've done it for you know, quite a while now.

1050
00:49:11,666 --> 00:49:15,066
Speaker 1: But I don't enjoy particularly having to compete against my dad,

1051
00:49:15,146 --> 00:49:17,706
Speaker 1: just because I think we root for each other success,

1052
00:49:17,786 --> 00:49:20,946
Speaker 1: and really it kind of goes counterintuitive to all the

1053
00:49:21,026 --> 00:49:22,866
Speaker 1: things that we've always felt. You know, you're always rotten

1054
00:49:22,866 --> 00:49:24,666
Speaker 1: for each other that, but now you're not. You're trying

1055
00:49:24,706 --> 00:49:27,426
Speaker 1: to beat each other in big division games that matter,

1056
00:49:27,626 --> 00:49:30,186
Speaker 1: and so that that part is not my favorite. But um,

1057
00:49:30,386 --> 00:49:32,386
Speaker 1: there is something about it that it's pretty unique and special.

1058
00:49:32,986 --> 00:49:34,786
Speaker 1: It's cool, and it's gonna be a great matchup. Those

1059
00:49:34,826 --> 00:49:37,106
Speaker 1: guys have had your number of it and years and

1060
00:49:37,546 --> 00:49:39,506
Speaker 1: and it's time for the Bengals to to see what

1061
00:49:39,586 --> 00:49:42,026
Speaker 1: they can make of this season. UM, wrapping up, you

1062
00:49:42,106 --> 00:49:43,866
Speaker 1: know a lot of people around the league listening to

1063
00:49:43,946 --> 00:49:47,306
Speaker 1: this podcast, people are always chiming in, Hey, this guy,

1064
00:49:47,586 --> 00:49:49,186
Speaker 1: your name's come up a bunch of someone that they

1065
00:49:49,266 --> 00:49:51,906
Speaker 1: want to hear from because there's a there's a good

1066
00:49:51,986 --> 00:49:53,786
Speaker 1: chance you're gonna get one of those HC jobs in

1067
00:49:53,786 --> 00:49:57,706
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Uh, what are your values?

1068
00:49:57,786 --> 00:50:00,586
Speaker 1: What are your your leadership like? What does Brian Callahan

1069
00:50:00,626 --> 00:50:01,946
Speaker 1: brings to the table to a team? And I'm not

1070
00:50:01,946 --> 00:50:03,786
Speaker 1: asking you to do any audition or interview from me,

1071
00:50:04,266 --> 00:50:05,906
Speaker 1: but for those of us who are going to know

1072
00:50:05,986 --> 00:50:08,586
Speaker 1: you now the first time, what do you bring to

1073
00:50:08,666 --> 00:50:10,266
Speaker 1: the table and how would you like to be looked

1074
00:50:10,306 --> 00:50:12,586
Speaker 1: at as a leader? I think I'm consistent. You know

1075
00:50:12,706 --> 00:50:15,906
Speaker 1: that my approaches is very consistent. My emotions are very consistent.

1076
00:50:16,186 --> 00:50:18,066
Speaker 1: I think you get that way working with quarterbacks just

1077
00:50:18,146 --> 00:50:20,266
Speaker 1: because that's how you that's how you have to approach

1078
00:50:20,346 --> 00:50:22,786
Speaker 1: the position. UM, not to say that I don't have

1079
00:50:22,986 --> 00:50:25,946
Speaker 1: intensity behind it or I can't get on guys, and UM,

1080
00:50:25,986 --> 00:50:27,306
Speaker 1: I think you know our guys will be the first

1081
00:50:27,306 --> 00:50:29,826
Speaker 1: to tell you that that I've fully capable and fully

1082
00:50:29,866 --> 00:50:32,666
Speaker 1: willing to jump on when that one is necessary. But UM,

1083
00:50:32,706 --> 00:50:34,826
Speaker 1: I think there's a there is a value and a

1084
00:50:34,866 --> 00:50:37,666
Speaker 1: consistent demeanor and a consistent approach. UM. I do think

1085
00:50:37,786 --> 00:50:41,706
Speaker 1: sometimes calmness is contagious. You know, when you're in big moments,

1086
00:50:41,746 --> 00:50:44,546
Speaker 1: in big, big spots, when everybody's losing their minds, you're

1087
00:50:44,546 --> 00:50:46,066
Speaker 1: the one that kind of stays calm and steady. And

1088
00:50:46,066 --> 00:50:48,826
Speaker 1: I've always prided myself on that, um, you know, and

1089
00:50:48,906 --> 00:50:51,346
Speaker 1: I think my my coaching style is is one of

1090
00:50:51,786 --> 00:50:53,746
Speaker 1: I try to build relationships the best I can. It's

1091
00:50:53,746 --> 00:50:55,546
Speaker 1: a it's a people business. That always has been, it

1092
00:50:55,586 --> 00:50:57,946
Speaker 1: always will be. And UM, the better you get to

1093
00:50:57,986 --> 00:50:59,626
Speaker 1: know your players, the more they trust you, the more

1094
00:50:59,666 --> 00:51:02,626
Speaker 1: they buy into what you're saying, the more that um,

1095
00:51:02,786 --> 00:51:05,386
Speaker 1: they allow you to to enter another relationship trust and

1096
00:51:05,626 --> 00:51:07,306
Speaker 1: be able to coach and teach from a place that

1097
00:51:07,826 --> 00:51:10,466
Speaker 1: they always feel like you're you're trying to make them better, UM,

1098
00:51:10,506 --> 00:51:12,266
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be able to to reach their goals

1099
00:51:12,306 --> 00:51:14,186
Speaker 1: and dreams as well. That's our jobs as coaches to

1100
00:51:14,186 --> 00:51:16,546
Speaker 1: put those guys in those positions to to make money

1101
00:51:16,586 --> 00:51:18,866
Speaker 1: and get paid and win games. And I think that

1102
00:51:19,626 --> 00:51:21,746
Speaker 1: that's that's always how I've been. I'm probably never going

1103
00:51:21,786 --> 00:51:24,586
Speaker 1: to change that, and um, you know hopefully that you

1104
00:51:24,626 --> 00:51:26,586
Speaker 1: know it doesn't whether somebody else likes it or not,

1105
00:51:27,466 --> 00:51:29,746
Speaker 1: I have no control over that. But um, I try

1106
00:51:29,786 --> 00:51:32,186
Speaker 1: to do to the best job I can more Matt,

1107
00:51:32,226 --> 00:51:34,506
Speaker 1: and let the rest of it take care of itself. Yeah,

1108
00:51:34,546 --> 00:51:39,386
Speaker 1: I mean, just for my You're incredibly intelligent, obviously your humble, UM,

1109
00:51:39,866 --> 00:51:41,626
Speaker 1: but you are one of those dudes and there's I

1110
00:51:41,706 --> 00:51:43,466
Speaker 1: guess a lot of coaches say I am too. You

1111
00:51:43,586 --> 00:51:46,106
Speaker 1: live in breathe football. I feel like it's everything that

1112
00:51:46,306 --> 00:51:48,226
Speaker 1: we've ever spoken. I just I feel like this is

1113
00:51:48,706 --> 00:51:50,346
Speaker 1: you're a great family man and all that, and you've

1114
00:51:50,346 --> 00:51:53,586
Speaker 1: got a wonderful, you know, full life, but you live

1115
00:51:53,666 --> 00:51:55,506
Speaker 1: in breathe football. And I think that's what the fans

1116
00:51:55,626 --> 00:51:58,346
Speaker 1: need to know. And my last question, it's it's about

1117
00:51:58,426 --> 00:52:01,546
Speaker 1: the Bengals fans because I'm on Good Morning Football. We

1118
00:52:01,626 --> 00:52:04,506
Speaker 1: have watched this rise from the ashes like a phoenix,

1119
00:52:04,706 --> 00:52:07,586
Speaker 1: and there might be no more passionate fan base that

1120
00:52:07,786 --> 00:52:10,306
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't even know about going into this job

1121
00:52:10,546 --> 00:52:13,706
Speaker 1: as one of those fan bases. Maybe it's because of

1122
00:52:13,746 --> 00:52:16,706
Speaker 1: the winds, maybe it's because of of the style of

1123
00:52:16,746 --> 00:52:18,986
Speaker 1: Borough and maybe it's just because they've been waiting to

1124
00:52:19,146 --> 00:52:20,986
Speaker 1: explode with with all of this over the last couple

1125
00:52:21,026 --> 00:52:25,666
Speaker 1: of years. What has been your impression and reception of

1126
00:52:25,906 --> 00:52:28,186
Speaker 1: the Bengals fan base and what that thing has become.

1127
00:52:28,626 --> 00:52:31,906
Speaker 1: They they're the best. Well, I love them, I love Cincinnati,

1128
00:52:31,986 --> 00:52:34,546
Speaker 1: I love people here, I love living here. But you

1129
00:52:34,626 --> 00:52:36,866
Speaker 1: can see they're they're passionate about their their city. And

1130
00:52:36,906 --> 00:52:38,666
Speaker 1: you see a lot of these places, you know, the

1131
00:52:38,706 --> 00:52:41,386
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is the Buffaloes, the Detroits. People are really really

1132
00:52:41,466 --> 00:52:44,906
Speaker 1: proud of their cities and what they stand for. And um,

1133
00:52:45,466 --> 00:52:48,666
Speaker 1: you know, Ohio has always been a great football state. Um.

1134
00:52:48,986 --> 00:52:50,866
Speaker 1: You know, you look even at the prep football scene

1135
00:52:50,906 --> 00:52:53,426
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and throughout the state. I mean there's there's

1136
00:52:53,626 --> 00:52:57,146
Speaker 1: a passionate support for the sport of football Ohio state.

1137
00:52:57,306 --> 00:53:03,266
Speaker 1: And those are you see Cincinnati, I mean those Miami Ohio. Um,

1138
00:53:03,426 --> 00:53:07,546
Speaker 1: there's just a passion for football, and uh, they love

1139
00:53:07,626 --> 00:53:09,986
Speaker 1: the Bengals and it's it's been a phenomenal Let mean,

1140
00:53:10,026 --> 00:53:11,786
Speaker 1: the support in the stadium our game days have been

1141
00:53:12,026 --> 00:53:15,506
Speaker 1: electric this year. It's been really really fun. But they

1142
00:53:15,586 --> 00:53:17,746
Speaker 1: love football and now they have a they have a

1143
00:53:17,866 --> 00:53:19,626
Speaker 1: team that they can get behind, and we've we've given

1144
00:53:19,706 --> 00:53:22,866
Speaker 1: them something to cheer about and be excited about. And um,

1145
00:53:22,946 --> 00:53:25,466
Speaker 1: I think that that they appreciate it, and and they

1146
00:53:25,466 --> 00:53:27,426
Speaker 1: don't take it for granted. And they love the fact

1147
00:53:27,466 --> 00:53:29,186
Speaker 1: that they got a team that's really fun to be

1148
00:53:29,226 --> 00:53:31,386
Speaker 1: around and fun to follow and and we're competitive and

1149
00:53:31,466 --> 00:53:33,946
Speaker 1: we can win games. And uh, they've been done a

1150
00:53:33,946 --> 00:53:35,786
Speaker 1: great job with our atmosphere and it's it's a fun

1151
00:53:35,946 --> 00:53:37,946
Speaker 1: city to be winning football games. And I think, as

1152
00:53:37,946 --> 00:53:40,226
Speaker 1: you saw at the end of last year, Uh, you know,

1153
00:53:40,426 --> 00:53:42,906
Speaker 1: the we can still only envision what a Super Bowl

1154
00:53:42,906 --> 00:53:44,506
Speaker 1: plade would be like here, but we think about it

1155
00:53:44,586 --> 00:53:46,346
Speaker 1: every day and and I think it's it's one of

1156
00:53:46,426 --> 00:53:48,466
Speaker 1: those things that that keeps everybody going because the fan

1157
00:53:48,506 --> 00:53:51,706
Speaker 1: base has been fantastic. They are is passionate and um

1158
00:53:52,346 --> 00:53:54,746
Speaker 1: excited about what our team is and where we could

1159
00:53:54,786 --> 00:53:57,466
Speaker 1: be headed that Uh they're not afraid to let everybody

1160
00:53:57,506 --> 00:53:59,626
Speaker 1: know either, which is great. It's really cool. The game

1161
00:53:59,706 --> 00:54:01,786
Speaker 1: they experience is totally different than it used to be.

1162
00:54:01,906 --> 00:54:04,146
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a it's almost a college atmosphere.

1163
00:54:04,466 --> 00:54:05,986
Speaker 1: A lot of that credit it's obviously the team and

1164
00:54:06,026 --> 00:54:08,786
Speaker 1: the players. I think Elizabeth Blackburn's in an incredible job

1165
00:54:08,866 --> 00:54:11,946
Speaker 1: with the branding and the marketing and their stand engagement. Um,

1166
00:54:12,146 --> 00:54:14,586
Speaker 1: the social media team is really good, like they're engaged.

1167
00:54:15,226 --> 00:54:17,066
Speaker 1: And I would say the fan base like I've gotten

1168
00:54:17,106 --> 00:54:19,306
Speaker 1: to know something like this Bengals gym is all the

1169
00:54:19,426 --> 00:54:23,506
Speaker 1: fans like he's great. Uh. This woman Whitney on Twitter,

1170
00:54:23,706 --> 00:54:27,586
Speaker 1: This Lindsay Patterson, she follows a team like engaged, smart

1171
00:54:27,826 --> 00:54:30,346
Speaker 1: And that's what happens with winning football and for a

1172
00:54:30,426 --> 00:54:32,626
Speaker 1: hot bed of football like you guys have And couldn't

1173
00:54:32,626 --> 00:54:34,546
Speaker 1: be happier for you personally, but couldn't be happier for

1174
00:54:34,586 --> 00:54:37,826
Speaker 1: the team as well. Um, Brian, you're the men. I

1175
00:54:37,946 --> 00:54:40,866
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good luck from here on out. We're doing

1176
00:54:40,906 --> 00:54:43,666
Speaker 1: this in week fourteen. Let's see how it goes from here.

1177
00:54:43,706 --> 00:54:46,266
Speaker 1: But first you gotta beat your pops. Man. Yeah, like

1178
00:54:46,306 --> 00:54:47,786
Speaker 1: I said, they've had our number, So we gotta work

1179
00:54:47,826 --> 00:54:49,706
Speaker 1: cut out for us. And it's it's it's a big

1180
00:54:49,746 --> 00:54:51,666
Speaker 1: divisional game and we gotta win one of these divisional

1181
00:54:51,706 --> 00:54:53,946
Speaker 1: games here. We just got steeling the Steelers a couple

1182
00:54:53,986 --> 00:54:55,266
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and now we've got to get another

1183
00:54:55,306 --> 00:54:57,786
Speaker 1: one year with Cleveland. So it's uh, it'll be a battle.

1184
00:54:57,786 --> 00:55:00,506
Speaker 1: They always are. ANFC North get back to work and

1185
00:55:00,546 --> 00:55:02,866
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Really appreciate your time. Thanks, Peter,

1186
00:55:02,906 --> 00:55:05,906
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man. Many thanks to Brian Callahan, the offensive

1187
00:55:05,906 --> 00:55:08,346
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals. You heard it from him.

1188
00:55:08,586 --> 00:55:10,506
Speaker 1: They have a huge game against the Cleveland Browns. What

1189
00:55:10,586 --> 00:55:13,106
Speaker 1: happens often as a team will get so hyped for

1190
00:55:13,226 --> 00:55:15,586
Speaker 1: that big game against one team, and in this case

1191
00:55:15,626 --> 00:55:17,906
Speaker 1: it's the Chiefs, and then maybe they have a hiccup

1192
00:55:17,946 --> 00:55:19,746
Speaker 1: over the next week because they got so hyped that

1193
00:55:19,746 --> 00:55:21,786
Speaker 1: they're kind of feeding off that are reading the headlines.

1194
00:55:21,866 --> 00:55:24,906
Speaker 1: I get the feeling listening to Brian Callahan, he's Zach

1195
00:55:24,946 --> 00:55:27,546
Speaker 1: Taylor and defensive coordinator Lewin and remote do not allow

1196
00:55:27,626 --> 00:55:29,546
Speaker 1: that to happen, and that they will be focused in

1197
00:55:29,626 --> 00:55:32,586
Speaker 1: and dialed in to beat the Shawn Watson and the Browns.

1198
00:55:32,666 --> 00:55:37,586
Speaker 1: We flipped the page to week fourteen and there's there's

1199
00:55:37,586 --> 00:55:39,586
Speaker 1: gonna be press conferences this week and they're gonna be

1200
00:55:39,626 --> 00:55:42,586
Speaker 1: asking Tom Brady questions about Brock Purty, and that to

1201
00:55:42,706 --> 00:55:46,786
Speaker 1: me is what's amazing. You know, obviously Purty story is

1202
00:55:46,946 --> 00:55:49,266
Speaker 1: this this wild ride, but Brady has been through it,

1203
00:55:49,346 --> 00:55:54,426
Speaker 1: before too Aaron Tampa survives another one. They're six and six,

1204
00:55:54,586 --> 00:55:58,226
Speaker 1: they're kind of on fumes and yet their playoff team

1205
00:55:58,306 --> 00:56:00,066
Speaker 1: right now, and they're going to San Francisco with the

1206
00:56:00,106 --> 00:56:03,026
Speaker 1: first real week of Brock Purty Ball. And if I'm

1207
00:56:03,066 --> 00:56:05,706
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, I'm studying Purty's film from last week and

1208
00:56:05,746 --> 00:56:07,586
Speaker 1: I'm getting a normal better might not be as easy

1209
00:56:07,626 --> 00:56:10,186
Speaker 1: as it was against the Dolphins. Uh, that's the game

1210
00:56:10,226 --> 00:56:11,786
Speaker 1: that got that has me hype this week? What do

1211
00:56:11,866 --> 00:56:13,626
Speaker 1: you got? I have to say the one I'm most

1212
00:56:13,666 --> 00:56:15,906
Speaker 1: excited for is what got flex in the Sunday night.

1213
00:56:16,306 --> 00:56:19,386
Speaker 1: I want to see Dolphins Chargers to A has had

1214
00:56:19,426 --> 00:56:21,746
Speaker 1: an amazing season and then kind of got shut down

1215
00:56:21,786 --> 00:56:24,066
Speaker 1: by the forty niners. But I want to see him

1216
00:56:24,066 --> 00:56:26,706
Speaker 1: bounce back. I want to see Waddle come back healthy.

1217
00:56:26,786 --> 00:56:29,226
Speaker 1: I want to see them show up. And also there's

1218
00:56:29,306 --> 00:56:33,906
Speaker 1: this long running narrative of Herbert to Uh That'sphins took

1219
00:56:33,946 --> 00:56:36,786
Speaker 1: to it before Herbert. I'll tell you what, though, can

1220
00:56:36,826 --> 00:56:40,346
Speaker 1: the Chargers win a game? You know what's like? They're

1221
00:56:40,346 --> 00:56:44,266
Speaker 1: getting primetime love here and to look at their record,

1222
00:56:45,186 --> 00:56:47,346
Speaker 1: and I'm a big brand and Staley fan for what

1223
00:56:47,466 --> 00:56:49,906
Speaker 1: he's done defensively, and I'm I love Herbert, I love

1224
00:56:49,946 --> 00:56:52,546
Speaker 1: that Clert, I love all of it. But like, I mean,

1225
00:56:52,626 --> 00:56:55,146
Speaker 1: come on, you got the Raiders last week, You're up

1226
00:56:55,186 --> 00:56:58,826
Speaker 1: tend nothing again. It's another crucible game. It feels like

1227
00:56:58,906 --> 00:57:01,186
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, we've seen him in primetime year after

1228
00:57:01,306 --> 00:57:02,666
Speaker 1: year after year. It feels like they lose a lot

1229
00:57:02,706 --> 00:57:06,066
Speaker 1: of these games. And there's also the Jets Pills game.

1230
00:57:06,146 --> 00:57:08,426
Speaker 1: I mean like there's there's a lot of good stuff

1231
00:57:08,506 --> 00:57:11,266
Speaker 1: this weekend. And I know that they couldn't flex Bills

1232
00:57:11,346 --> 00:57:13,866
Speaker 1: Jets into Sunday Night because Mike White, you know, it's

1233
00:57:13,906 --> 00:57:16,626
Speaker 1: too busy working on White Lotus Sunday night, so he couldn't.

1234
00:57:16,666 --> 00:57:18,746
Speaker 1: He couldn't do the Sunday Night. Not all caught up,

1235
00:57:18,786 --> 00:57:20,466
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I got two more. I'm not either. I

1236
00:57:20,546 --> 00:57:22,706
Speaker 1: got in trouble actually this morning for not being caught

1237
00:57:22,826 --> 00:57:27,066
Speaker 1: up someone someone yeah, yeah, working on the NFL shows.

1238
00:57:27,386 --> 00:57:29,986
Speaker 1: I know. My partner was like, I'm getting spoiled on

1239
00:57:30,106 --> 00:57:32,546
Speaker 1: all these episodes. Episode are you up to? I'm five

1240
00:57:32,626 --> 00:57:35,906
Speaker 1: in we're five to yeah, some some ending to the

1241
00:57:35,946 --> 00:57:38,306
Speaker 1: fifth episode, yes, and we're hoping that we'll be all

1242
00:57:38,386 --> 00:57:41,306
Speaker 1: caught up by Friday. Okay, I'll make a deal with you.

1243
00:57:41,386 --> 00:57:43,266
Speaker 1: I will watch the sixth episode. We will go into

1244
00:57:43,306 --> 00:57:46,306
Speaker 1: the finale together. Ready, but we gotta watch Dolphins Chargers

1245
00:57:46,866 --> 00:57:50,986
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah. On behalf of my friend Aaron Jan Kaufman,

1246
00:57:51,066 --> 00:57:53,626
Speaker 1: on behalf of Jason English, the maestro of the I

1247
00:57:53,786 --> 00:57:56,506
Speaker 1: Heart Team, on behalf of the NFL Network, the NFL

1248
00:57:56,586 --> 00:57:59,946
Speaker 1: Digital Team, on behalf of our music man, Jack Rudd.

1249
00:58:00,226 --> 00:58:03,146
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for listening. Awesome week ahead.

1250
00:58:03,906 --> 00:58:07,106
Speaker 1: Uh Brian Callahan fantastic. That's the off. It's a coordinator

1251
00:58:07,106 --> 00:58:08,586
Speaker 1: of the Bengals. You now got to know him, and

1252
00:58:08,586 --> 00:58:10,026
Speaker 1: when he's a head coach of your team, you'll say,

1253
00:58:10,026 --> 00:58:14,066
Speaker 1: I remember when until next week? The Season with Peter Schreeger.

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