WEBVTT - Honor Your NFL History 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:07.280 Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.040 week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.720 the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.599 crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the rich 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:22.000 pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes, 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.880 break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:34.559 Maller starts right now in the air everywhere, even with 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.320 a messed up voice, we are back at it on 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.279 another new year of the Fifth Hour. I think this 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.800 is the third or the fourth year of the Fifth Hour, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.800 but the first full year with Danny g Radio, because 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.880 four hours a night, five days a week or not 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.280 enough on the overnight show. And we're back in the 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:06.520 Mallard podcast studio. Amazing, amazing, another year upon us. Amazing. Man, Man, 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.520 I'm gonna have to carry you the way Matt Stafford 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:14.319 has been carrying the Rams well unless you well, and 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.720 he had the game winning drive day, how dare you 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.280 had the game winning drive against the Ravens And I'll 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.080 just jump on your back and I will carey. I 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.400 know you're very nervous because the Raiders have a playoff 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.600 game on Sunday, night. I know you're very concerned about that, 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.080 because you know, the Raiders are the kind of team 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.560 that will go on a run and win the Super 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.679 Bowl unless they're not. Yeah. Well, it's it's been quite 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.200 a ride the past few weeks because ever since that 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.200 COVID game in Cleveland, it seems like they've been playing 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:50.720 a playoff game every single week. I'm now, what one, two, three, 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.400 this is gonna be the fourth Raiders playoff game. Yeah, well, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.880 and that would be the first if if they actually 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.640 make the playoffs. Derek Carr, who will who will end 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.880 one of the great streaks of utility having never started 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.880 a playoff game exactly. He should have started that game 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.959 in Texas in but of course that's the famous year 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.160 It's broke, It's broke, Well that was that was one 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.880 of the worst playoff games of all time, dude, because 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.079 we had what was the quarterback's name, Ben oh Well, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:28.120 I remember that the Texans played that tall guy brock Oswi. Yeah, 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.720 with con was a Cook, Connor Cook, the third string 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:38.320 His name popped up he had That game against the 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.760 Texans for Connor Cook was one of the five worst 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:49.360 games ever ever for an NFL quarterback. I mean, they 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.919 brought it up because Ben Roethlisberger in the Monday night 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.959 game was horrific and it's I'm still annoyed by the 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.520 media coverage on ESPN. He was going out and puking 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.680 on the field, and they didn't want to mention it. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.760 They didn't want to bring it up because it was 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.800 supposed to be his night. But it was like, my god, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.560 it was one of the worst games I've ever seen, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:15.080 tearing at the end. All that matters is the w Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, no, no, 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.160 that's not all that matters. There's there's more that matters. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.400 There's a few things that matter. But it was like 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:26.760 it was just total there's crickets, NonStop crickets, and it 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.520 was like, come on, please shut play, and they wouldn't 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.200 shut up, not they just kept going on and on, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.640 and it was just like Ben Roethlisberger. Look, he walked 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:42.560 off the field. Ben Roethlisberger went in the locker room. Oh, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.360 I think he sat on the bench on one of 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.840 those heaters in that nice Oh, it's so wonderful, it's 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.440 so wait a minute, Ben just took a dump at halftime. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.920 I know. That's very very impressive, very very impresient anyway, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:00.200 So I thought on this. I was away for for 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.840 a little while and John Madden passed away, and if 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:08.400 I had been at my catbird Seed, I would have 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.440 done a proper tribute. I would have done a monologue. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.000 I would have done you know. You know, we did 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.159 the six lines, and uh, I couldn't do any of 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.159 that because I was away. And I feel like when 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:21.920 you when you come back, you know, you want to 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.400 start fresh, and so I didn't get a chance to 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.880 do it. So I wanted to. I'm sure you have 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.680 some John Madden story. A raider guy. I'm not a 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.359 raider guy. I know Madden was before your time, but 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:39.320 you you grew up in Northern California and Madden has 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.560 been a staple of Northern California and all that. So 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:50.560 I I only have one vague passing reference where I 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.839 was in the same presence of of John Madden. And 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.360 and then I thought we'd place some of his Hall 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.400 of Fame speech because I thought that really sums up 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.680 the essay of John Mann. Plus I wanted to hear 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.520 it again, so you know, why not? Right, that's perfect? 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.400 And now, did you have any run ins with John Madden? 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.360 I met him briefly. It was years ago when I 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.760 was working in Northern California and I got to take 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:22.440 part in a Raiders Raider at event in Alameda, Raider 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.960 at Yats and they had some Raider legends involved at 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:32.560 the Raider facility and John Madden showed up. He was 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.400 bigger than any of the other legends, because the dude 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.920 was bigger than life. I got to shake his hand 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:44.320 very briefly. He was very nice to everybody. But it's 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.000 not like I got to sit down and talk to 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:50.320 the guy. But man, just the presents like you felt 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.719 him walk into the room. And I know we've heard 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.320 so many stories over the past couple of weeks, but 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.320 it is true. When everybody kept saying he was larger 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.800 than life and humble, I just can't say it any 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.360 better than that. Yeah, and I never got the chance 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.719 to to meet Madden. I met most of the people 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.360 that I kind of grew up in idolized, with very 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.560 few exceptions, but Madden is on that list. When I 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.080 was a kid, my dad took me to a ram 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:24.320 Fort game and it was at the Big A and 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.480 the Madden Cruiser was was parked out in front, and 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.279 this is like a big deal. Uh. I mean because 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.440 I remember hearing about the Madden Cruise the days before 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.880 social media, and I've never seen really a photo of it. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.560 And uh, you know, eventually Madden at down the line. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.280 It was like a moving billboard. They had like corporate 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.640 sponsors for the Madden Cruiser and they put big logo 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.040 for out Back Steakhouse on it. But but it's actually 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.200 before those days, and I remember being a kid. I'm 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.240 such a nerd. I'm at the Big a I'm gonna 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.599 Ram game, you know, a long time ago. The Niners 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.880 are still the dynasty of the NFL, and the Rams 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.760 where their arrival. But they rarely beat them. They've usually 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.120 beat them. They beat them in in Candlestick. They did 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.480 better in Candlestick than they did at the Big But anyway, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.160 I at the game, and I still remember I have 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:25.640 vague memories of the game, but I remember the Madden Cruiser. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.200 Seeing it in the parking lot, I was like, Wow, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.640 this is the great John Madden. And as a kid, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.000 was like, oh my god, John Matt. Everything this guy 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:39.160 said and it was just like John Matt, I mean, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.000 come on, and it was it was a big to 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.760 do and all that, so I remember that, And unfortunately, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:50.480 when I got in the media business, I only covered 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.800 a few NFL games in San Diego when I was 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.040 working down there with the Chargers, and then I had 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.520 a hook up for while. I had a hook up 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.880 where I could go to any Charger game I wanted, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:08.360 but Madden rarely did the Chargers and uh. And then 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:13.120 I remember when the Raiders moved back to Oakland. I 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.680 went and covered a game, but the Raiders game or two, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.560 but the Raiders weren't very good, and he wasn't doing 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.080 Oakland Raider games, so I never and the NFL was 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.400 gone for the first twenty years. By the time the 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:31.600 NFL came back, Madden was no longer broadcast, so that 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.480 was it. You know. Watching the documentary, one of the 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.280 many things that stood out was how he basically started 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.719 NFL on Fox pretty they were able to talk him 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:48.240 into it, and then everybody followed him over to Fox. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.480 You know, they were known for what married with children 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:57.840 and the Simpsons, and then suddenly he gave them instant credibility. Yeah. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.280 And when Madden answers the falle that's and he actually 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.840 takes the call from from Fox. I mean that that 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.000 was huge because I remember in those days, Fox was 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.600 the outsider. It was ABC, CBS, NBC some combination of that. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:18.680 And then nobody even considered Fox legitimate and uh yeah, 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.040 and people were goofing on them when they got the 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.319 NFL deal. They're like, yo, this is not gonna last. 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.839 Nobody's gonna watch the NFL on Fox and what is 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.760 and and and all the remember they had the robot 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.800 thing that they tossed out there and which they still 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.520 have by the way. Um and yeah, Madden was was huge, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.640 and remember him in pat Some are all uh and 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.280 it was like the perfect combination because Madden wouldn't shut 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:47.560 up and some are all rarely said anything, so it 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.520 was like it was perfect where Madden would say, handoff Emmett, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.640 touchdown Cowboys, you know, it would be like a seventy 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.840 yard run and yeah, exactly. And then but the rest 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:03.559 of the time was just John Madden waxing poetic. And 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.600 I went back, I don't know if you fell in 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.920 this rabbit hole when Madden passed away. I went back 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.160 on the YouTube and I fell down a rabbit hole 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.400 and people were like, what are you doing? What are 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:23.480 you doing? Swamp? It was the YouTube swamp. Actually, I 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.800 was like, I wasn't there, and uh, but I watched 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.480 like a thirty minute clip. It was. It was all 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.079 highlights of John Madden, and like some of the stuff 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.520 I remembered, a lot of it I didn't remember. And 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.920 then I watched another one, and then another one popped 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.200 up and I ended up. I probably spent I had 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.679 nothing else to do because I've been sick, but I 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:52.400 probably spent two hours watching John Madden highlights and I 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.480 loved every second of it. That was great. Did you 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.920 see the clip where it was Madden's very first time 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:03.920 on camera with Pat summer All? I saw the one 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.920 he was he originally were with Costas. There was a 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.439 clip I saw with Costas. I didn't see the first 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.839 Summer All one. I saw the one where he there 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.680 was a pigeon at RFK Stadium in Washington and he 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.800 did like to play by play and and that whole thing. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:26.160 But there were so many amazing, amazing calls and uh. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.240 And that's the other thing about Madden, like everywhere he went. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.800 You know remember that that the book you know, how 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.920 to Win friends and Influence people? That was Maddie, right. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.760 He loved everybody and he remembered he took time out 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.960 of his schedule to ask questions and get to know people. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.160 And that's the kind of stuff people will remember. You know, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.680 they're not gonna remember all the xs and ohs and 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.199 all the other nonsense, but that's the kind of stuff 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.320 that actually touches people's lives where they're like, wow, that's 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.760 a big deal. I spent half of my childhood in 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:03.000 southern California and the other half in northern California. And 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.560 as loved as Madden was worldwide, he got even more 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.800 love in the Bay Area because obviously that's where he 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:15.480 hailed from. Um, he lived in Pleasanton, and he was 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:20.000 he was also attached to Daily City. And so where's 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.040 where is Pleasanton? For those for those that haven't been, 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.800 I've been to the Bay Area, But for those outside, like, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.600 where is that close to? Because that's not that well 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:33.120 known past Livermore on your way to San Jose. On 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.480 the way you got to know the way to San Jose. Yeah, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:41.319 right before Fremont is Pleasanton and it's it is very beautiful, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:46.360 well before the drought, green rolling hill and uh and 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.880 very beautiful homes up in the hills. I could see 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.439 why he chose that part of the Bay Area to live. Um. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.800 But yeah, you would hear lots of stories about him 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.480 there in the Bay Area, and he would hop on 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.760 some Bay Area radio stations from time to time. So 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.120 as a kid, I remember hearing him on local radio 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.240 stations in the Bay doing Collins. Yeah. I think he 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.800 did that even up until a year ago or so. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.440 I think he was still calling in, like on the 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.000 news station to give an NFL update or something like that. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.599 You might remember there were some stations who carried the 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.120 Madden Minute. Yeah, I do remember that, a syndicated John 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.520 Madden radio vignette. Did they do those still those radio 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.480 vignettes or is that like a stone age? I remember 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:38.360 Bob Costas did it, uh? I Paul Harvey. Paul Harvey. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.280 I worked with a guy that replaced Howard Cosell. He 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.160 did a like a little three minute speaking of sport, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:51.280 Howard coast Sell, the old you know, nineteen seventies, sixties broadcaster. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.560 I don't. I don't think they do that though, do they? Well? 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.520 I know Dan Patrick does one. Really, Yeah, I'm not. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.120 I'm not sure about anybody else in the sports world. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.400 It's a good point though, Yeah, it's kind of a 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.760 lost art, but it was a cool touch on radio 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.120 stations when we were a kid, because it was something like, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.040 I remember our AM radio stations would all carry the 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.440 Paul Harvey syndication. Oh well, Paul Harvey was huge. Yeah, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.200 that was the most listened to guy in radio. So 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.000 even if they didn't have Paul Harvey on their station, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.600 they could still have a touch of his personality by 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:33.360 carrying his little syndicated clips. And now you're going to 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:38.760 know the rest of the story. Paul Harvey, good Day's 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.720 got a sound like him with my voice all oh man. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.880 The other thing about Madden, I know, the sort of 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.760 Tommy lived in the same house in Fullerton that he 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:56.000 bought when he originally became, you know, somewhat well known 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.680 with the Dodgers. He bought a home in the Fullerton 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.440 area in Orange County, and I believe he lived there 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.720 the same house until he died. I wondered, Madden made 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.560 a lot of money, like a ton of money doing TV. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.880 I did he did he live in the same house? 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.800 You know, if he moved around or lived in the 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.440 same basic house that he bought when he first became 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.680 with the Raiders back in the day. That's a good question. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.080 I'm not sure about that. Yeah, I mean I bet 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.200 he probably did. Madden seems like the kind of guy 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.960 that will be like, all right, I like this area, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.000 I like this house. I got two kids, and the 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.480 house is big enough, so I'm not gonna move around. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:44.120 And plus the fact that John Madden was able to 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:51.320 pull off not flying and and reached the very top broadcasting. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.800 And you know, Dan and I I've obviously experienced this. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.360 If if you're not at a certain level, they will 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.120 not do anything for you. Uh, in terms of bending 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.360 over travel wise, that mean it's just no, you're gonna fly, 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.600 You're gonna stay at this hotel, You're gonna do this, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.840 that and the other thing. And that's just the way 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.800 it is, and that's the way it's gonna be. And 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:23.360 and Madden was such a great order of the NFL. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.160 They were like, wow, it's John Maddie. All right, well 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.600 look the other one. This is John Maddie. And uh, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.840 it's crazy, crazy that he was able to do that. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.360 And and then that became his thing. As I talked about, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.520 I was a kid and I still remember seeing the 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.440 Madden Cruiser. That is dope. And you think you see 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:50.440 the very first broadcaster who got um multimillionaire contract with 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:55.440 every single thing he wanted. That's a good question. I 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.320 he was the highest paid NFL broadcaster. But and really 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.840 the Fox el cemented that cemented that because Fox paid 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.680 him like whatevery, they basically gave him a blank check, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.359 and because they were so desperate to get John Madden. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.119 Otherwise that would have sullied the uh the deal they 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.760 got when they got the CBS contract. But um, I'm 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.119 too young for Howard Cosell was he I'm sure he 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.600 got paid a lot. Did he have the kind of 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.959 pull that Madden had? I know a little bit about Cosell. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.919 He was before my time, But I he was not 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.159 the highest paid guy. But the salaries aren't anything like 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.520 a Madden made more than Cosell. Yeah, I mean, and 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.640 now it's just you know, cuckoo for cocoa puffs with 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.760 Tony Romo and all these guys are making like eighteen 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:49.240 million dollars a million dollars a game, basically insane and 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:53.440 that nuts crazy nuts were the other duos that come 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.680 to mind. They're Madden and Pat Summer. All they were 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.439 a soundtrack in a lot of ways. Especially being in 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.679 the in Northern California for a while as kid, because 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.560 they called a ton of forty games and a ton 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.720 of Cowboy games. Obviously, um they were the a team 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.360 they had the game of the Week for for Fox. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.360 But also I guess as a little kid, the other 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.040 duos that come to mind for me would be like 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:25.040 dick Enberg and Dan Fouts. Um, you know. I it 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.800 got me thinking of some of the best duos in 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.720 the booth that we grew up with. Yeah, dick Enberg, Yeah, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.920 very nice guy. I met dick Enburg at a Padre 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.760 Dodger game. He was getting soft served that's a plumb 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:44.520 pussy right the press box, and he was very very polite. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:49.240 But Enburg remember I like more of the obscure broadcasters 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:55.280 because I remember Charlie Jones from Oh Yeah Yeah, Um 0:18:55.359 --> 0:19:00.640 Don Crickey who always did really shitty games, as I remember, 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.800 but it was it was something about Don Crickey hit 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:08.280 this very distinctive delivery. Yeah, and I used to mimic 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.840 it when I was a kid because I'm a nerd 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:16.920 and I remember Don Cricky doing those games. I'm trying 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.560 to think of some of the other the well. Hank 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.680 stram On radio. He did radio, he did TV also, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:27.840 Hank Stram, like Monday Night with Joe Buck. They were 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.280 pretty good back in the day. I'm trying to think 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.439 it's funny that we both brought up dick Enberg because 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.520 he is one of the voices where no matter what 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:41.600 game he was calling, it sounded more important because he 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.159 was on the call. He could yeah, yeah, he could 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.760 make a twenty yard completion sound like a world championship. 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.760 It's guys, like I guess NBA version would be Marv 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.480 Albert a big three pointer. Uh, you know, he could 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.240 make a game sounds so much more important and then 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:05.040 maybe it was. And I think about like al Michaels 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.000 to me is like the one of the last guys. 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.199 You hear al Michaels do the open, It's like a 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.439 big deal. But I think that's because we grew up 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.960 with those guys. I wonder like if the kids today 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.520 are they gonna have that same experience when Joe Buck 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.119 does a game, is it Is it the same experience 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.160 as Jack You know, I I reminisced about Jack Buck 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.040 back in the day, one of the guys I looked 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:33.119 up to. But but Joe Buck, I mean, he's been 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.240 around for our Jim Nance at at CBS. I mean, 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.399 these are the these are the guys that people have 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.199 grown up with and how many more years are they 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.680 gonna be doing it? Yeah? And you know, so much 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.920 of the talk about the kids nowadays, they obviously just 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.960 know John Madden from the video game. They were not 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:58.240 really aware of him as a broadcaster, and certainly we're 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.600 not aware of him as a head coach in the NFL. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.080 And even a lot of adults were like, wow, I 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.000 had no idea he had a winning percentage like that 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:12.160 and dominated the uh, the division he was in for 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:16.120 so many years. That was kind of nice to go 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:20.360 down Raiders memory Lane with all those famous games. Games 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.280 he coached were so famous they have names for the 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.560 games like the Sea of Hands and uh Ghost to 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:31.479 the Post and all those kind of games, the Holy Roller, 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.320 Immaculate Reception and all. You know, that's pretty cool because 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.480 besides Tuck Rule, how many games from the past thirty 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.440 years do we have like a name for the game 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.520 that we refer to. Yeah, and part of that is 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.040 also the era, right, I mean they don't. They don't 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.080 do that anymore. Yeah, I don't. I don't think so, 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.920 because yeah, you're right. It was very much NFL films. 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.600 And you know, we watched the NFL in a in 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.880 a different way than we do out. Yeah. Now it's 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:07.560 like you you're soaking in for maybe forty eight hours, 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.080 and then you're onto the next game. Right, It's like 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:15.280 that game has died, moving on. It's like playing Donkey 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.320 Kong the next game. You forget about the old game. 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.240 And uh uh yeah, I mean it was. It was 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.639 much different, and it's all social media and consuming stuff obviously, 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.160 all right, So I wanted to hear a little bit 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.160 of John Madden. He gave one of the great Hall 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.919 of Fame speeches. So I'm not sure how much of 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.360 this we're gonna play, Danny, but and and we'll react. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.800 I can pause this and and we can play it 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:39.679 and react to it. We'll see how this works. But 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:44.160 this is way back in twenty oh six, John Madden. 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.920 We're not gonna play the full speech, but is Pro 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:51.280 Football Hall of Fame in Triman ceremony. So just imagine 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:57.080 a sunny day Canton, Ohio. Al Davis had introduced John Madden. 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:01.560 So I was still around, and uh, here is some 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:05.400 of what madness. He thanked everyone I'm not gonna play 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.600 that part. He started out thinking everyone like the people 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.640 that live in cant Ohio, like everyone. Uh, And then 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.040 he went into something he experienced at the Hall of Fame, 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.440 and this this is I thought. The first a few 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.639 minutes was pretty good, you know. I was. I was 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:24.080 reading the the NFL stats in history book. And and 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:25.960 that's what when you you do when you write a 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.280 bus when you don't fly, you read, you know, big, big, 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.840 old thick books like that. But they had a chapter 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:36.879 on history and the first page and the chapter of 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.919 history was a list of the Hall of Famers. And 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.800 I said, that's right, they got it. That is our history. 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.919 The players that played before us, the players that played 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.439 when they didn't have face masks, when they had leather helmets, 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.720 when got this thing started. The players that played in 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.000 smaller stadiums, you know, didn't have the medical thing, didn't 0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.960 have anything. They laid the foundation for this great game 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.119 and we should never forget it. I say the NFL 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.119 teams that you want to honor your history more. Sometimes 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.960 we tend to get caught up in the players and 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.840 the games. Now honor your history, bing bring back the 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.520 Hall of Famers, Bring back their teammates. Let the fans 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:24.080 show their appreciation to the history, because I know that, 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.760 you know, going in with these guys is is so special, 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:33.000 and you know, we'll always talk about immortality, all right. 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:37.560 And this next part, this is the classic John Madden 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:42.760 about what happens at night He took a page. Remember 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:47.640 that movie Night at the Museum. Yeah, Robin Williams back 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.879