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Speaker 1: and I can't wait for that conversation. I really can't.

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Speaker 1: The Vincla Marts do rock me? To you, to Reggie,

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Speaker 1: to Walter Payton, to the to the guys that you

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Speaker 1: want to say? What to all my players, Max players? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we will will be there forever and ever and ever

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Speaker 1: talking about whatever, and and that's that's what I believe,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I think is gonna happen. And no

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Speaker 1: They have you ever been to the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame? No, it's on the bucket list. I would

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Speaker 1: looks like John Madden. It's like it's a younger John

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Speaker 1: mad I guess so I think that's I think that's

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Speaker 1: Madden when he was coaching. Yeah, it's not. You're right, though,

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Speaker 1: we don't know John Madden like that. We know the

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Speaker 1: old John Madden. We know the old, fun loving broadcasters.

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Speaker 1: We don't know the young uh, you know, up and

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Speaker 1: coming coach John Madden. That guy's foreign to us like that,

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Speaker 1: Who the hell's that guy? Exactly? He's one of the guys,

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Speaker 1: just like Betty White, who we talked about before the

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Speaker 1: congratulations Betty White. You were magazine. You were responsible for

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Speaker 1: the demise of Betty White. How dare that was the

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Speaker 1: That was the People magazine cover curse that killed her? Um,

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Speaker 1: but we only knew her as an old person. I

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Speaker 1: The same with John Madden. When I was a little kid,

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Speaker 1: he was already old as a broadcaster. So you're right,

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Speaker 1: I never saw him as a young person on television. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I did see. I was watching small game shows

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Speaker 1: because I'm a loser, and they put some old uh

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Speaker 1: where they have you know, celebrity panel and you can

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Speaker 1: so Betty White was on that and that's why they

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Speaker 1: replayed them. And I looked at the other celebrities, and

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Speaker 1: everyone else had died at least forty years ago. She

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Speaker 1: outlived everybody. And these people were her contemporaries, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they were dropped it in the in the or the eighties,

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Speaker 1: you know. And sah, her husband was a famous host

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Speaker 1: of one of those games show, Alan Lundon, Right, is

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Speaker 1: that the is that Lundon or something like that? Is

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Speaker 1: that the one? I know? It was Alan? Uh? He

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Speaker 1: how she couldn't wait to be with him again. Uh

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Speaker 1: when she finally passed on. Yeah. So, and there was

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Speaker 1: that that was her last word his name. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because she wanted to go join him. Uh. But when

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Speaker 1: I was reading that he passed away in nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 1: I was like, holy sh it, what a long time

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Speaker 1: to long for your partner. Yeah. In a way, it's

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Speaker 1: like that movie The Green Mile where um Tom Hank's

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Speaker 1: character got a little touch of everlasting life and lived

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Speaker 1: past everybody. His family all passed on and he was

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Speaker 1: still alive. Yeah, it is a it's a weird thing.

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Speaker 1: You want to live as long as you can. But

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Speaker 1: then at some point, and we've talked about this before,

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Speaker 1: like a big part of life is your friends and

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Speaker 1: your you know, your social network and your your family.

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Speaker 1: And if if you're alive and you outlive everyone, God,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be awkward, right, I mean, that's it's a

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Speaker 1: blessing and a curse. It's at the same time, it

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Speaker 1: really is. Anyway, we gotta get out of here, Danny,

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Speaker 1: But we will be back with a brand new Saturday podcast,

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Speaker 1: a never before told story. I will debut I did

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Speaker 1: not speak about this on radio. I did not tweet

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Speaker 1: about this. I did not do I'll explain why I

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Speaker 1: didn't do that stuff. But I'll get into all of

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Speaker 1: that a never before told story on the Saturday podcast.

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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of The Mallard Show on the Overnight,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna want to miss it. But anyway, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Danny appreciate that, and we will catch you next time.

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Speaker 1: See Yes, Saturday