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Speaker 1: Dale Lollly here with Matt Williamson. This is the Drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers National Radio and Matt the Browns made what

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Speaker 1: I feel because a pretty Browns like move. Um, they

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Speaker 1: panicked in my opinion, I think they panned two. They

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Speaker 1: because they offered him. They just backed up the brinks

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Speaker 1: just bought him. They say, what it is? I mean again, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Which Hey, I don't fault anyone for getting the most

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Speaker 1: year is a million dollars. Well, why do we care

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Speaker 1: about that, Matt Well, because what the Browns are telling

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Speaker 1: They've got eight million dollars in cap space for next year.

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Speaker 1: That DeShawn Watson costs fifty four point nine million, almost

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Speaker 1: wouldn't trade for him. I wouldn't. I wouldn't let them

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Speaker 1: any draft capital for Baker Mayfield, right seed you. I

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Speaker 1: then have to give him a new contract. So hypothetical

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Speaker 1: I think Atlanta takes a quarterback at that point, it

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Speaker 1: landing spots for quarterbacks. Then, funny you say that because

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean I can see the Lions at

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you weren't incorporating trades but it's not hard

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Speaker 1: to envision a scenario where these guys aren't falling. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a it's bad quarterback classes.

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Speaker 1: People make it out to be. No, I just I

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Speaker 1: just think that's the reality of it, because there's been

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Speaker 1: the seats are all filled, yeah or about to be

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Speaker 1: Marcus in Mayfield and Marcus Mariota is still out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, right, not even getting a whiff. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like so that that's all it's it's all still available. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals made an interesting signing yesterday. They added lay

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Speaker 1: All collins Um to their offensive line. Uh. You know

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Speaker 1: people are looking at that, well you just pencil the

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Speaker 1: Bengals in there that they're the Uh, they're the favorites.

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Speaker 1: Now they fixed their offensive line. It's all. It's all good.

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Speaker 1: You know. People forget that they were a ten win

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Speaker 1: team last year. Yeah. Yeah, they weren't a one seed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they were. They were a ram for four seeds.

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Speaker 1: They were four seeds. They stayed amazingly healthy last year. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, are are they a good team? Are they

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Speaker 1: they should be the favorite. That's to me. They should

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Speaker 1: my questions about that. I did too. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: the world is sleeping on the Ravens. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: definition almost um. But I still think the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: should be the favorite in the division, even if Watson

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Speaker 1: the Bengals if they don't spend good free agency money

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Speaker 1: on offensive line. They did it, and or a first

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Speaker 1: round pick, you know, like I said, you gotta add three.

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Speaker 1: At least they've hadded three, you know. So I management

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Speaker 1: has handled things differently these past three off seasons. And

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Speaker 1: on a rookie deal, which is wonderful, and they're taking

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna get easier for no. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: now have the target on their backs. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: about that. Um, you know, everybody's gonna want to go

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Speaker 1: beat them. You think the Chiefs aren't gonna want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, enact some retribution for you know, they got

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Speaker 1: to play the Chiefs. I gotta play the Bills, I

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Speaker 1: gotta you know, all these teams that that are our

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Speaker 1: solid off season. Yeah. I'm gaining more and more respect

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Speaker 1: get hit with injuries like Baltimore did last year, they

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Speaker 1: won't be a playoff teams. Yeah. I mean Baltimore had

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Speaker 1: ridiculous injuries last year. They were they were polar opposites.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore got crushed by injuries. The Bengals had none. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm not sure the Bengals are better than

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. When we come back. We're

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Speaker 1: going to do our post free agency mock draft with

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