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Speaker 1: let me just explain something we've talked about before. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has many public statements, crazy public statements, public

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Speaker 1: Why does this happen? Well, there is a coalition that

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Speaker 1: But the foreigner, he's fine with it. Hand him a

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Speaker 2: No, as mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin at Nyahu.

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Speaker 1: How could they do that? How could they elect this man?

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what New York City is now. We don't

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Speaker 1: We don't like the accurate representations we see of certain

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Speaker 1: the poisoning of American culture. Switch to pure talk. My

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Speaker 1: Pure talk is so American. They hire Americans speaking of foreigners.

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Speaker 2: Grocery prices are out of control. The cost of eggs

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Speaker 2: need to be this way. I'm Zarammbani and as mayor,

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Speaker 2: I will create a network of city owned grocery stores.

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Speaker 2: It's like a public option for produce. We will redirect

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Speaker 5: What? Well, Jesse, I'm a New York City resident and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I think I'm gonna have Eric Adams on

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Speaker 5: Why you know, I think I felt the same thing

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Speaker 5: They really haven't haven't worked hard, like like the blue

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Speaker 5: they all voted for Mom Donnie. So so much for

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Speaker 5: And you could apply that principle to every single issue

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Speaker 5: They're going to send their kids to private schools. They're

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Speaker 1: Caroline, can you explain these elite of New York? Is

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Speaker 1: Because I've known democrats like this in big cities. They

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Speaker 5: I've seen this in the wild. There's a lot of

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Speaker 5: I think among older, frankly boomer college educated elites and Manhattan,

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Speaker 5: And that's not to say that they are any less

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Speaker 5: They think, you know, Israel needs to be disciplined, and

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Speaker 5: Mom Donnie is a Hamasnik. He's like if you took

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Speaker 5: I just think the older generations of democratic New Yorkers

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Speaker 5: like woke brownie points with their friends. We saw Cynthia

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Speaker 5: Mom Donnie. She was in the famous New York show

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Speaker 5: know how socialism starts. I mean, or how communism starts.

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Speaker 5: Democratic socialism is basically communism on training wheels. But they

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Speaker 5: But once it's actually implemented, we're going to see a

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Speaker 1: Caroline. Is there a larger Muslim demographic in New York

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Speaker 5: Well, look, New York City is very diverse. It's the

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Speaker 5: like I said, he was raised in Uganda, or he

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just very unfortunate that he made it

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Speaker 5: But that's a that's a real disappointment for New York City.

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Speaker 1: Caroline, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Breaks my heart. I'm still gonna sleep well tonight, I

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Speaker 1: know everybody's had their eyes focused all over the world

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know how ugly is the beautiful bill.

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Speaker 1: Let's ask the Senator about it. Joining me now, Senator

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Speaker 4: Listen? It went well, Cordial, I have to lay out

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Speaker 1: Senator, can you help me understand what exactly people are

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Speaker 1: names on who's protecting what But clearly people are protecting

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Speaker 1: ridiculous spending items. This can't all be salt deduction stuff,

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Speaker 1: can it? What are people protecting that people like you

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Speaker 1: want to start.

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Speaker 4: I just think they went about it the wrong way.

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Speaker 4: They started over seven trillion dollars, and they tried and

436
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Speaker 4: then suffered death by a thousand cuts, and they didn't

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Speaker 4: do what I suggested as a pat myself on the back.

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Speaker 4: But I went back and I suggested three pre pandemic

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Speaker 4: levels spinning off or spending options. Clinton nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 4: Obama twenty fourteen, Trump twenty nineteen. They'll use those actralays

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Speaker 4: increase in by populace growth inflation. You start there, You

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Speaker 4: leave soci security, Medicare, and interest alone spend which you

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Speaker 4: need to spend for twenty twenty five, but all of

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Speaker 4: the outlays plus up by that control population growth inflation.

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Speaker 4: If you do that, your baseline budget be se between

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Speaker 4: five point five and six point five trillion dollars. Now,

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Speaker 4: I've been being this drum beating my head against the

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Speaker 4: wall now since January first, when I first published my

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Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal article. Unfortunately, people just blow it off.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, that's just too many lines that too

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Speaker 4: much work or just I think it's more just stuck

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Speaker 4: in the old ways. Identify a couple of programs, tweak them,

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Speaker 4: get a CBO score, pull a number out of the air,

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Speaker 4: one point five trillion, And then again that was just

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Speaker 4: pulled out of the air. That there's It bears no

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Speaker 4: relationship to anything. It's not any context, it's not half

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Speaker 4: of the you know what we need to do. It

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Speaker 4: just sounds like a big number and it's completely inadequate.

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Speaker 4: So again, coming from the business world, I keep saying,

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Speaker 4: this would be easy. I would go to my managers.

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Speaker 4: Get hey, you guys, I said you could increase your

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Speaker 4: budgets based on inflation and the number of customers you served.

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Speaker 4: You're forty percent over that. What's wrong with you? Get

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Speaker 4: back in line or you're fired. That'd be about a

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Speaker 4: five minute conversation. I think most responsible business managers A

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Speaker 4: wouldn't increased their budgets at twenty three or forty or

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Speaker 4: in comparison to the Clinton budgets like ninety percent over

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Speaker 4: what he spent fully inflated. But if you dial them

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Speaker 4: back in. But it's not that easy here in government unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I understand the President is pushing to have a

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Speaker 1: bill passed by July fourth, by Independence Day. Now July

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Speaker 1: fourth cometh, and that right soon into hear you talk,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like we were about to have a bill.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I think you're right. And listen, I don't mind the

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Speaker 4: pressure being applied to us, because now we're finally starting

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Speaker 4: to have the conversations. I mean, the committees, they've been

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Speaker 4: working their tail off, and listen, I really appreciate all

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Speaker 4: the work the Chairman create posts done of Senate Finance.

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Speaker 4: He's been involving us in these meetings. But this is

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Speaker 4: complex and it's hard. So now it's concentrating everybody's efforts.

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Speaker 4: So now we're starting to have some pretty interesting discussions.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just came from lunch, and you know,

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Speaker 4: there's there's good back and forth, which is what you need.

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Speaker 4: These are these are difficult issues. Different states have different requirements,

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Speaker 4: different provisions that affect different states differently. These are centers

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Speaker 4: from those states. They represent their people, they represent their

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Speaker 4: their legislators. So uh, this isn't easy. So what I

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Speaker 4: don't think, what I certainly don't want, is I don't

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Speaker 4: want this bill. I have no problem with leadership and

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Speaker 4: the Chairman of the House, you know, sending us the draft.

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Speaker 4: But now we need to take a look at things.

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Speaker 4: And what I proposed is you know, and yeah, show

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Speaker 4: you right here. This is my This is my line

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Speaker 4: by line bullet point of the different elements, different provisions

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Speaker 4: of the bill with their scores. If it's red, that

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Speaker 4: means it's adding to the death sit. If it's black,

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Speaker 4: it's reduce the depth sit. There's generally more red on

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Speaker 4: here than black. But we ought to do as a

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Speaker 4: conference is lock ourselves in a room, go line by line,

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Speaker 4: element by elements, score by score, and based on the

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Speaker 4: definition of the problem. The fact that Biden on average

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Speaker 4: incurred one point nine trillion dollar deficits per year right now,

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Speaker 4: the CBO score of the obb B the baseline is

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Speaker 4: somewhere between twenty one and twenty four trillion over ten years.

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Speaker 4: In O thereds two point one to two point four

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Speaker 4: trillion dollars. We got to do better than that. So,

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Speaker 4: based on that reality, do we really need to cut

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Speaker 4: that tax Do we really need to offer that tax credit?

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Speaker 4: Do we really need to spend that amount of money

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Speaker 4: on that priority? That's the kind of work we ought

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Speaker 4: to do. Again, you rush this thing, we won't do

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Speaker 4: that work. And the last thing I want is for

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Speaker 4: Republicans to take the Nancy Pelosi approach and say, well,

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Speaker 4: we've got to pass this thing before we know what's

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Speaker 4: in it. We need to thoroughly know what's in it.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to whatever the final text is, do an

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Speaker 4: AI scrub. And the question I'd ask the AI is

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Speaker 4: is there anything in here that'd be just perfect, for example,

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Speaker 4: a Tom Coburn wastebook. If it is, we better take

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Speaker 4: it out. Let's not be embarrassed by that.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, let's shift gears off this horribly

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Speaker 1: depressing topic, Senator, and I want to talk about something

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Speaker 1: that's somehow actually more horrific. We now know, according to

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Speaker 1: Cash Pateel, that not only did China get involved in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenties election in some way fake driver's licenses and whatnot,

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Speaker 1: That actually isn't even the most outrageous part. The most

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Speaker 1: outrageous part is the Federal Bureau of Investigation covered that up. Now, Senator,

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Speaker 1: for me, that means the Federal Bureau of Investigation should

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Speaker 1: end completely the state when a secret state police agency

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Speaker 1: does something like that, the entire agency should be shut down.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not a naive human being. What can we

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Speaker 1: do from here? Who's going to prison?

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Speaker 4: So let me describe the problem we've had here. Pam

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Speaker 4: Bondi gets into the attorney General's office there, Department Justice,

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Speaker 4: and they let go a lot of attorneys. You couldn't

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Speaker 4: trust him. They were obviously partisans. They're having a really

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Speaker 4: difficult time replacing those individuals. One of the big reasons is,

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Speaker 4: for example, we've got a wonderful person judged Troopists from

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin represented Trump for thirty days during the recount. Everything

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Speaker 4: is above board. The Wisconsin Attorney general said what he

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Speaker 4: did was fine terms of the ultimate state of electors.

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Speaker 4: Now he's spent over a million dollars just defending himself

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Speaker 4: against that same attorney general in Wisconsin, who's using lawfair

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Speaker 4: against the judge simply for representing Trump. So they make

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Speaker 4: examsamples of people like President Trump, they make examples of

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Speaker 4: Judge Troopis for just simply representing a client. Just happens

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Speaker 4: being now the President United States. It's like they would

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Speaker 4: never do that some of you who represented a triple

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Speaker 4: rapist murder, But boy, if you represented Trump, they're going

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Speaker 4: to destroy you. They're going to destroy your finances, they're

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Speaker 4: going to destroy your career. So it's a real problem

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Speaker 4: now for the Department Justice to hire people to replace

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Speaker 4: the ones. And look, I'm hearing there's a couple hundred people.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of manpower that you'd like working with

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Speaker 4: you to uncover this abuse, to prosecute crime that they

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Speaker 4: don't have it. So listen, there's a real challenge when

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Speaker 4: Republican administration comes into these partisan agencies. It's almost impossible

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Speaker 4: to gain control of them. And you only got four years.

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Speaker 4: They just wait out, So listen, this is a real challenge.

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Speaker 4: I am not criticizing Cash Betel or Pam or President Trump.

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Speaker 4: This is just maybe be an insurmountable task. So we

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Speaker 4: have high expectations, but understand, the deep state is powerful,

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Speaker 4: it is deep, it's highly partisan and not in our favor.

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Speaker 1: What do they serve for lunch at the White House? Senator,

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Speaker 1: we're talking. We were talking salads, burgers, steaks. What do

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Speaker 1: they serve for lunch at the White House? We talk

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Speaker 1: in salads, steaks. Please tell me it was something smash burgers.

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Speaker 1: Tell me it was something decent. The White House I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 4: I haven't eaten there for many, many years.

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Speaker 1: It's too bad. I'm dying to know. Senator, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, Josh Hammer was there in

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Speaker 1: Israel and a bomb shelter a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to him next. Well, like we said, foreign

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Speaker 1: policy is very complicated. Combat very complicated. As I've mentioned

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Speaker 1: a million times, in war, the first casualty is the truth.

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Speaker 1: That's an old, old old saying. And last week was wild.

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Speaker 1: I mean true, this week has been wild Israel, Iran, America.

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Speaker 1: What's the reality of it. It's hard to wade through everything,

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Speaker 1: but one of the best ways to do that is

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Speaker 1: talk to somebody who was actually there in some form

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Speaker 1: or fashion. And Josh Hammer was, of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer joining me now, my buddy, Josh Hammer, author

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Speaker 1: of the book Israel and Civilization. Excuse me, okay, Josh,

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Speaker 1: the floor is yours. What happened last week?

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Speaker 6: Well, Jesse, I was there, My young family was there,

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Speaker 6: my wife, our six month old baby, and I. We

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Speaker 6: were there when when the war started. We were there

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Speaker 6: for we're there for purely personal reasons, actually for my

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Speaker 6: wife's cousin's wedding, and we had a birthday party, a

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Speaker 6: lot of I had a book event, but personal stuff.

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Speaker 6: And on the fourth or fifth night we were there,

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Speaker 6: I suppose it was the sirens went on off at

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Speaker 6: three am and the rest has been history. So for

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Speaker 6: a few days we were running in and out of

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Speaker 6: bomb shelters. And the thing to bear in mind, Jesse,

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Speaker 6: is that it's usually there'll be an advance warning on

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Speaker 6: your cell phone, like a loud siren, noise will go

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Speaker 6: off to say, be near a bomb shelter. Not always sometimes,

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Speaker 6: but when the sirens in your local vicinity and the

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Speaker 6: town actually go off, you have ninety seconds, maybe two minutes,

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Speaker 6: to drop whatever the heck it is you're doing and run,

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Speaker 6: essentially run for your life to the safe ruin the house,

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Speaker 6: the bomb shelter. So you can imagine how this was

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Speaker 6: starting to wear on us. Again, our six month old

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Speaker 6: baby was there. This is no joke, right, So the

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Speaker 6: fourth night that we were there, after the war started,

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Speaker 6: I got reports of a neighboring town. We were staying

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Speaker 6: in the Tel Aviv suburbs, a neighboring town. One of

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Speaker 6: the missiles evaded the air defense and had a direct

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Speaker 6: hit on the bomb shelter, and two people in the

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Speaker 6: bomb shelter actually tragically died. So they did everything they

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Speaker 6: could and the bomb shelter did not protect them. So

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Speaker 6: I said, that's it, we're again the heck add here.

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Speaker 6: It did a little research. I live in Florida, as

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Speaker 6: you know. I came across a program that Governor Ron

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Speaker 6: santas a partner with to get Americans out. I got

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Speaker 6: in touch with an amazing Florida State center named Jay Collins,

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Speaker 6: who was on the ground in Israel and Jordan getting

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Speaker 6: Americans out. So it was a three and a half

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Speaker 6: day journey, went from Israel to the Jordanian border, up

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Speaker 6: to a mom, the capitol of Jordan, then to Cyprus,

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Speaker 6: then to Tampa, where Governor Santis met us there. He

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Speaker 6: actually asked me to join him at a press conference

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Speaker 6: there at the airport last Friday, and then we got

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Speaker 6: back to South Florida. So it was quite an ordeal

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Speaker 6: to put a mildly there and I saw some things

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Speaker 6: that don't necessarily particularly care to see again. I saw

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Speaker 6: one factory that took a direct hit from an Iranian

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Speaker 6: ballistic missile. It was on fire with billowing black smoke.

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Speaker 6: The likes of which you know, that's an image that

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Speaker 6: you will not forget for a long time. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Israel had become an active war zone, right, you know,

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Speaker 6: the idea of massade did a lot of amazing stuff

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Speaker 6: in those first days of the war inside of Iran,

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Speaker 6: but Israel itself had become a war zone and it

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Speaker 6: was time to get our family out. So thank god

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Speaker 6: we're home safely, and I'm really happy to be here

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Speaker 6: talking to Jose.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one, I'm glad you're saying my brother too. That

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Speaker 1: is a story that is going to be told in

644
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Speaker 1: your family for quite some time. So that's at least

645
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Speaker 1: something I need you to describe for me. The I'm

646
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Speaker 1: gonna ask some details because people are curious the bomb shelters.

647
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Speaker 1: Are they in people's homes? Are they large? Are they small?

648
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Speaker 1: How many people go to these bomb shelters? Because this

649
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Speaker 1: is the world I ask it, Josh. I mean, you

650
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Speaker 1: lived it, but this is the world we can't understand

651
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: here in America, and I want you to lay it

652
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Speaker 1: out for us. Yeah.

653
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Speaker 6: Sure, no, great question. So the first thing to bear

654
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Speaker 6: in mind, Jesse, is that most of the new construction

655
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Speaker 6: in Israel, to be clear, the old buildings that existed

656
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 6: forty fifty years ago. They weren't built with bomb shelters.

657
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 6: It wasn't really a thing, so maybe they were able

658
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Speaker 6: to kind of add it on after the fact there.

659
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Speaker 6: But the newer buildings typically have one room of the

660
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Speaker 6: house that is extra fortified, I mean extra layers of

661
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 6: concrete theory. You know, if you knock on the wall,

662
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 6: you will you will essentially notice the difference between that

663
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 6: room and the other rooms there. So we were staying

664
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Speaker 6: primarily the family friend's house in the Broader Tellvy suburbs

665
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Speaker 6: and one of the one of the bedrooms on the

666
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 6: ground floor in the basement was the safe room. So

667
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Speaker 6: that is where we evacuated. But a couple sundays ago,

668
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Speaker 6: we were at a neighboring town where my wife's grandmother lives.

669
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Speaker 6: She lives in one of these older buildings and they

670
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Speaker 6: had to turn a large common area room on the

671
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Speaker 6: ground floor of the apartment building into the safe room.

672
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Speaker 6: And there's a lot of elderly people there, so for

673
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Speaker 6: you know, for instance, my wife's grandma's in a wheelchair,

674
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Speaker 6: and think about that, that's really logistically difficult to get

675
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Speaker 6: an old woman in a wheelchair from the third floor

676
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Speaker 6: down to the safe room with the sirens. It's really awful, honestly,

677
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Speaker 6: it's a frankly an awful reality. The final thing that

678
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Speaker 6: that thing is worth noting about this is these bomb

679
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Speaker 6: shelters were typically built and this is another thing that

680
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Speaker 6: I think the American media has not really covered. These

681
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 6: bomb shelters were built with these hammas fired rockets and

682
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Speaker 6: mortars in mind, they were not necessarily built with Irani

683
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Speaker 6: and hypersonic ballistic missiles flying two thousand miles in mins.

684
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Speaker 6: That is an apples to oranges comparison. These two things

685
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Speaker 6: are simply not the same thing. So that is why

686
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 6: there are been Israeli casualties, is that the bomb shelters, tragically,

687
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 6: they're typically doing their job, thank god for that there,

688
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 6: but the air defense is letting too many missiles through

689
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 6: and some people tragically are dying, which again is why

690
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Speaker 6: I want to get out. But it's no way to

691
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Speaker 6: live Jesse. It is simply no way to live your

692
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 6: life there, unfortunately, tragically. I think for a lot of

693
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Speaker 6: Israelis it's kind of just the mentality. They know that,

694
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Speaker 6: they know this is the case. They deal with it there.

695
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Speaker 6: But you know, as a non Israelian as American there.

696
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Speaker 6: It was pretty harrowing to deal with for a few.

697
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Speaker 1: Days, okay, Josh. The mood of the people there when

698
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Speaker 1: it comes to like, I don't know if this whole

699
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Speaker 1: thing's over. Frankly, I have my doubts because Iran hasn't

700
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Speaker 1: changed their stance on things. Israel is perfectly aware that Iran.

701
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Speaker 1: Setting that aside that I doubt the whole thing's over.

702
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Speaker 1: What is the mood of the Israeli people with all this?

703
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Speaker 1: Because this has been going on for quite some time now,

704
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Speaker 1: so I should clarify I'm talking the war itself, I'm

705
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: talking about Gaza, I'm talking about Iran, I'm talking about

706
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Where are they at with all this?

707
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Speaker 1: So they're sick of? Are they all in? Where are

708
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Speaker 1: they right?

709
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Speaker 6: So part of the whole debate, Jsu, for the past

710
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Speaker 6: couple of weeks has been who started this? You know,

711
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Speaker 6: what is the starting point of the war. I've heard

712
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Speaker 6: some people say this is Israel's war of aggression in

713
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Speaker 6: Iran with respect, That's just not really accurate, right, I mean,

714
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Speaker 6: at a bare minimum, the current war against Israel started

715
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Speaker 6: on October seven, twenty twenty three, Hamas received lots of

716
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Speaker 6: training and funding from Iran. There has Bala, who these

717
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 6: all the various Iranian tentacles have been trying to go

718
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Speaker 6: after Israel. Indeed, they've been going after American ships and

719
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Speaker 6: going after Americans themselves. I mean, the US Marine barracks

720
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Speaker 6: bombing in Beirut Lebanon killing two hundred and forty plus

721
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Speaker 6: Marines back in the early nineteen eighties came from an

722
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Speaker 6: Iranian proxy. Hasbalah so to me, the beginning of Iran's

723
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Speaker 6: war against what they referred to as the Little Saint

724
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Speaker 6: of Israel and what they referred to as the Big Saint.

725
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Speaker 1: Of the United States.

726
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Speaker 6: This war essentially starts when the regime is formed with

727
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Speaker 6: the hostage crisis that ended the Jimmy Carter presidency back

728
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Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy nine.

729
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Speaker 1: There.

730
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Speaker 6: So that really is how far back this goes.

731
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Speaker 4: Now.

732
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Speaker 6: Having said that, with that context, and given the fact

733
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Speaker 6: that this has been going on for so long, Leron's

734
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 6: been chanting death to Israel, death to America for my

735
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 6: entire life, essentially, It's definitely my entire adult life.

736
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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 6: You know, Iran is not a particularly contested issue among

738
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Speaker 6: the Israeli political spectrum. And I'll give you an example.

739
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Speaker 6: So in twenty sixteen, I was there with a law

740
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Speaker 6: school delegation and we met with a very far left

741
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Speaker 6: member of the Israeli parliament. This guy was so far left,

742
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: totally literal socialist. He was actually supporting Jesse a Kiddie,

743
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 6: not Bernie Sanders in the primary back then in twenty sixteen.

744
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 6: Even this guy, he's a Looney Tunes Marxist socialist. Even

745
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 6: this guy was actually very sober and hawkish on the

746
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: Iranian issue. Iran is simply not a contested issue. Israelis

747
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 6: know that Iran is an existential threat, at least a

748
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Speaker 6: nuclear armedran there. So this is a very very popular operation.

749
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Speaker 6: The next NYA who has done there on the home front,

750
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Speaker 6: there's very little doubt about that.

751
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Speaker 1: I think. Okay, Josh, let's I'm not switching gears here,

752
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: but let's talk about the political the environment in Israel,

753
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: because it is a divided country just like ours. Is Netahu,

754
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: the current government. Is it unpopular? Is it popular? Is

755
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: it what are the reasons behind it?

756
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: Right?

757
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Speaker 6: So, even though Iran is not particularly contested issue, NETANYAHUO

758
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 6: himself is a is a deeply polarizing divisive figure in Israel,

759
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: the same way that Donald Trump is a deeply polarizing

760
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 6: and divisive figure. They're actually shockingly similar, Jesse. If you

761
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 6: look at the biographies of Donald Trump and Bibi Netanyahu,

762
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 6: there are more similarities, frankly than differences. They've both been

763
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 6: prosecuted by unprecedented, a historical lawfare. They're literally dragging Natanyakhu

764
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 6: into court Jesse during this war for alleged bribery charges.

765
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 6: It's the exact same thing. The deep state, the prosecutors,

766
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 6: the judges, they're all in there against him, the exact

767
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 6: same way that Jack Smith and the whole Democrat lawfair

768
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 6: complex was against Donald Trumpierre. The similarities are frankly outright shocking,

769
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 6: but this probably will boost Netanyakhu's domestic political standing if

770
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 6: I had to guess again for the very simple reason

771
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Speaker 6: that Iran has been the sort of Dama please hovering

772
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 6: over the Israeli people for decades. And again, there are

773
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 6: plenty of issues in Israel that are very hotly divided.

774
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 6: The Palestine issue is definitely an issue where Israelis are

775
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 6: mixed minds, although increasingly they reject the so called two

776
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 6: state solution. After October seventh, the issue of the Hierdine,

777
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 6: the so called ultra Orthodox entering the idea of the

778
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: military draft. That is a very hotly debated issue. There

779
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 6: are plenty of issues over there that are hotly debated,

780
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Speaker 6: but the Iranian issue is just really not one of them. Again,

781
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 6: maybe the Arab Israelis are different, but the Jewish Israelies,

782
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Speaker 6: I think, no matter whether you are right, center or

783
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 6: left whatever, understood that this regime cannot get a nuclear

784
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 6: weapon because they say they want to commit, they say

785
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 6: they want to commit a second Holocaust, and they've given

786
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 6: no indication whatsoever that they will not do that. They

787
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 6: get a nuclear weapon there. So I think it's a

788
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 6: very popular operation in Israel. I think Nintiyakuo probably stands

789
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 6: to benefit politically from it.

790
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Speaker 1: Josh, I'm glad you and yours are saved. My brother,

791
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: welcome back home. Take care all right? The wild, wild world, right,

792
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: wild way to live. Say, always be two minutes from

793
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: a bomb shelter. Anyway, we need to lighten the mood now, thanks.

794
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: I like jd Vance. It's time to light in the mood.

795
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Speaker 1: By the way, I like JD Vance. I greatly enjoy

796
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: the dynamic between JD. Vans and Trump. Trump very clearly

797
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: likes JD. Vance gives them all kinds of leeway to

798
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: speak and important meetings, and well, I thought this little

799
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: moment showed these two get along pretty well.

800
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Speaker 6: And the President looks over at me, puts the foreign

801
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 6: leader on mute, and says, this is not going very well.

802
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: And he presses the red button and my eyes get

803
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: really big, and I'm like, mister President, you know what

804
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: just happened. And he he looks at me and he

805
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: goes nuclear.

806
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 5: Clear.

807
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: And two minutes later, a guy walks in with the

808
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: diet coke and he looks back at me and he says,

809
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't nuclear, It's just the diet coke button.

810
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: And that's.

811
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Speaker 1: So that's the kind of guy, my fellow Republicans, that

812
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Speaker 1: we have as the president of the United States. That's

813
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Speaker 1: a great story, all right, I'll see