WEBVTT - TechStuff Stares at OLEDs

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and

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<v Speaker 1>I am an editor at how stuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting across from me as always a senior writer, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end

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<v Speaker 1>of the western spiral arm of the galaxy lies a small,

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<v Speaker 1>unregarded yellow sun. That's a nice quote to uh to

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<v Speaker 1>begin this episode. That has a lot to do with light. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And this comes courtesy of a little Facebook feedback you

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<v Speaker 1>and this Facebook feedback says, Hey, guys, I love your

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and I listened to them on my downtime. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a search on how stuff works website on

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<v Speaker 1>oh Lad, I noticed a very technical article written on

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<v Speaker 1>the website. However, I was wondering if you guys would

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to give your take on it. How do

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<v Speaker 1>they stack up to L DAN plasma where the differences

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<v Speaker 1>between the different types of old maybe explain the differences

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<v Speaker 1>between L ed O, LAD, etcetera. Thanks, Um, Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit there and talk a little bit about oh LEDs,

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<v Speaker 1>what they are, what they do, how they how they

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<v Speaker 1>are different from other technologies. Uh, and it's interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think by when I first started at

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff works, Oh lads, we're still very very much

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<v Speaker 1>in the prototype stage, and you didn't really see anything

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<v Speaker 1>on the market at that time, the consumer market anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they had an o LED type screen and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>much later in the prototype stage. But we're kidding the lads. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're getting to the point where we're finally seeing

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<v Speaker 1>them scaled up to large screen TVs. But for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, the biggest screen you're gonna get with something

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<v Speaker 1>like eleven inches. Yeah. Well, the genesis of my joke

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<v Speaker 1>being that people who are really interested in old technology

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<v Speaker 1>have been waiting for them to come out for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. It seems like they're uh, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>in development of some kind for a for a long

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<v Speaker 1>long time. They've been actually pretty common in smaller screens

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<v Speaker 1>like smartphone screens for example. Um, they're they're really great

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<v Speaker 1>for that. They use less energy than a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the other technologies and they're excellent for that. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting them scaled up has taken a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people who have been waiting I'm gonna buy

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<v Speaker 1>an old TV, like, well, you know, I wouldn't hold

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<v Speaker 1>my breath. Well, but finally they're starting to hit now.

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<v Speaker 1>But and and also the other thing people have been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for, and it's one of the types we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in a little a little further in in the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is the flexible oh Lady, that idea of having

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<v Speaker 1>a display that is actually malleable, that you can bend

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<v Speaker 1>it around things. And you know, you might use that

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<v Speaker 1>to have a foldable display. That's what a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about. But there are other things you could

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<v Speaker 1>use it for, Like you could use it in displays,

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<v Speaker 1>say in a store where you've got round columns, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a display wrapping around this round column. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. Well, yeah, and it's uh. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about it. I think, um, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's taken a while to get larger oh lad screens,

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<v Speaker 1>the technology will be worth the way. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh. I think it is a good idea to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and talk about the similarities. And there I

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<v Speaker 1>think three major similarities between the technologies red, green, and blue. Yeah. Light. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of all all the technologies we're talking about here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, plasma, l c D and UH you know

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<v Speaker 1>the oh lads or LED screens and organic LED screens. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's to display information and it shows

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<v Speaker 1>us light. UM. The trick is really how they go

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<v Speaker 1>about doing that. And we've talked about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other technologies in the past, like for example, plasma uses

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<v Speaker 1>UH gases ionized gas and basically you they show the

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<v Speaker 1>different colors by running a charge through the gas and

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<v Speaker 1>then look like l c D uses liquid crystals, and

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<v Speaker 1>these liquid crystals actually form a barrier between light and

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<v Speaker 1>the clear part of the screen, and then the l

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<v Speaker 1>c D s, through various running an electric current through

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<v Speaker 1>change shape and that allows light to pass through and

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<v Speaker 1>there's some color filters in there and that's where we

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<v Speaker 1>get the displays through that. So that's a liquid crystal display.

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<v Speaker 1>L E D s are light emitting diodes and we've

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<v Speaker 1>had those around for for quite some time and they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty efficient. They're more efficient than a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>forms of lighting. But an O l e D, as

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<v Speaker 1>Chris had mentioned, is an organic light emitting diode and

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<v Speaker 1>you might think, well, what how that huh, And it

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<v Speaker 1>really comes down to, uh, kind of a an organic sandwich. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, uh, they're not terribly different from

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<v Speaker 1>from the typical L E. D s, but it's it

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<v Speaker 1>really comes down to the materials used to make that sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're they're they're very in alright. So an O

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<v Speaker 1>L ED it's it's solid state, all right, And it

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<v Speaker 1>is usually between one hundred to five hundred nanometers thick,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty thin. That's according to uh to most estimates.

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<v Speaker 1>And this does change from one source to another, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's about two hundred times thinner than a human hair

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<v Speaker 1>in diameter. Now, human hair is actually come into a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of diameters. It's like one person's hair might be

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<v Speaker 1>thinner than another's. Uh. Some people have clear hair like me,

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<v Speaker 1>My hair is invisible to the human eye. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you rate the two hundred it's an average,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's two hundred times smaller than the diameter of

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<v Speaker 1>human hair. And uh, it's they're different layers within this sandwich, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what is creating the light that you see.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's the basics the the bread on the sandwich,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, is our pair of electrodes. Right, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got your cathode and you've got your anode. Now, technically

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<v Speaker 1>you also have the substrate. The substrate is the foundation

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<v Speaker 1>that the lad sits upon, So substrate is also part

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<v Speaker 1>of this, but I'm looking mostly at the components that

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<v Speaker 1>actually make the old work. Right. So, yeah, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the cathode and the anode, and you've got the jobs

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<v Speaker 1>of the cathode and the anode are to create a

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<v Speaker 1>circuit for electricity to flow through, right right, The electrons

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<v Speaker 1>flow from one to the other, from the cathode to

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<v Speaker 1>the anode. And in a way you have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think of this in uh interesting terms, like, so

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<v Speaker 1>cathode is injecting negative particles into this o led sandwich. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am positive that they are negative electrons, is what

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<v Speaker 1>cathodes are putting into their The anode is creating well

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<v Speaker 1>what we call them electron holes. They're positive. It's they

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<v Speaker 1>turn an element into a positively charged element. They actually

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<v Speaker 1>pull electrons out of it and so now it's positively charged.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means that the electrons coming from the cathode

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<v Speaker 1>are attracted toward the anode. Side. Hey, you're pretty cute,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it has to pass through the other layers

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<v Speaker 1>of the sandwich. And there are two or three other

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<v Speaker 1>layers depending on the type of o ledge you're looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>but really the two layer is the most common, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just stick with that. So you've got your emissive layer,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the layer that actually emits light, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have your conductive layer, which is the layer that attracts

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons through the other materials. So if we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at top to bottom and the bottom is the substrate,

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<v Speaker 1>then the top layer is your cathode. Next down you

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<v Speaker 1>have your emissive layer, that's where the light comes through.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have your conductive layer that's what's pulling the

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<v Speaker 1>electrons down. Then you have the anode layer. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>really pulling the electrons down. It's what's allowing the conductive

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<v Speaker 1>layer to pull these electrons through. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the substrate. So, uh, why are we getting light? Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>This this gets into some interesting physics here. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the electrons coming through from one side, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the electron holes coming through from the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>So in a way, you can think of negative charge

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<v Speaker 1>and positive charge. I know that sounds weird, but just

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<v Speaker 1>go with me here. And when those two meet, the

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<v Speaker 1>molecule that they meet at becomes UH actually drops an

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<v Speaker 1>electron into that positive hole and as a result there

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<v Speaker 1>is a difference in energy. It releases some energy as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of that that reaction, and that energy is

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<v Speaker 1>released in the form of a photon. And we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before about how if you excite an atom,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by telling you it's going to this new

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<v Speaker 1>world or something, and the electrons move to a higher

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<v Speaker 1>energy state. When those electrons move back down, once that

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<v Speaker 1>energy has has been removed from the system, once the

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<v Speaker 1>electrons moved back down, they have to release that extra energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they often will do this in the form of photons,

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<v Speaker 1>which we perceive as light. That's exactly what's going on here. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a great video on this UH at m

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<v Speaker 1>I t S site where a professor was explaining how

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<v Speaker 1>oh LED's work by shocking the heck out of a pickle.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a had a cathode and an anode um

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<v Speaker 1>attached to a pickle and was running a very high

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<v Speaker 1>electric current through it, which was making the pickle glow.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was this is what was happening. You had

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<v Speaker 1>the positive charge in the negative charge meeting and the

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<v Speaker 1>molecules where it met at that's where it was releasing

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<v Speaker 1>this electron and uh and and releasing a photon or

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<v Speaker 1>or it was the electron states were moving down and

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<v Speaker 1>the photons were being released, and that's why we were

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<v Speaker 1>getting light. Um. Pretty cool. Actually, I kind of wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to build one, except for the fact that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably electric you myself. For a second there,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were girk in my chain. Anyway, So

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about electricity, we're not talking about a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>These are pretty efficient, so we're talking in a realm

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<v Speaker 1>of just a few volts that are needed in order

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<v Speaker 1>to excite these molecules so that they emit light. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the major benefits of old screens is that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't require as much electricity as some others. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, plasma TVs are are notorious for using a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of electricity. Well, you have to keep pouring in

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<v Speaker 1>electricity to keep that gas ionized. So yeah, plasma display

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<v Speaker 1>is not They've gotten a lot better last years, but

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<v Speaker 1>is it is by its very nature, is not the

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<v Speaker 1>most environmentally friendly way of creating a television. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>TV is terribly environmentally friendly no matter how you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but but it's it's less So yeah, plasma has a

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<v Speaker 1>reputation for being for being less energy friendly. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there there there have been some better ones, but still uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And those two different layers of molecules are are are organic,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're organic plastic. It's pretty cool organic plastic like

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<v Speaker 1>poly anelyin and polyfluorine. Okay, all right, you know, Pollyanna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you when you say we're organic plastic,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of sounds like it's oxymoronic, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>organ chuah wa Um. Well that that's actually um. We

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<v Speaker 1>should talk about to the different types of oh leads

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<v Speaker 1>because there are r G b OH lead screens and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the white lead screen UM, which sort of

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<v Speaker 1>uses a color sandwich to UM and by by activating red, green,

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<v Speaker 1>and blue, you get white UM. And uh you know

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<v Speaker 1>those the red, green, and blue are are pressed together

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<v Speaker 1>in the same pixel. So by doing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the have basically a pure white UM

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it. It works a little slightly differently than

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<v Speaker 1>than the others simply because of that UM there are

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<v Speaker 1>people say that it has a longer life than the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional OH lead screens UM, but that is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the advantages of it. UM and it's

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<v Speaker 1>also possible to, uh to scale the white OH lead

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<v Speaker 1>screens up a little easier from what I understand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also been talked about as a potential replacement for

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<v Speaker 1>things like fluorescent lights, where not just for displays, but

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<v Speaker 1>for actual lighting, because that's it's even more efficient than

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<v Speaker 1>fluorescent lighting is. And uh, you know you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that mercury that you gotta worry about that's in fluorescent lights. Yeah, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have those little fluorescent bulbs, which are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more energy efficient that incandescent bulbs, will good on you,

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<v Speaker 1>but be very careful with them, yes, because those suckers

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<v Speaker 1>do contain some very toxic chemicals in them that can

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<v Speaker 1>be very dangerous. Yes, you do not want to bust them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the O lead lights might be a nice alternative

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<v Speaker 1>to that, you know, if if it's efficient enough so

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<v Speaker 1>that they make economic sense to the consumer, because you know,

0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you gotta worry about that, uh, And also the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't have these toxic chemicals necessarily inside them.

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<v Speaker 1>If they are just as efficient or more so, then

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<v Speaker 1>makes perfect sense to go and switch to it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There are actually several different types of oh lad screens

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<v Speaker 1>and no lead displays. We talked about the foldable oh lads.

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<v Speaker 1>Now these are using a substrate that is flexible. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your typical substrate. When I think of substrate,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of something that is that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid, or sometimes it can be a little brittle

0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.400
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but it doesn't bend. It's not bendy bindy. Right. Well,

0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the the idea of being that you're going to build

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<v Speaker 1>your circuit material on top of this material. So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're this it's a board, so you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're I'm going to add the stuff to it, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Usually you want something that's fairly solid, although you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously for other applications you would need something that's flexible.

0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's say that you want to create a display on

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<v Speaker 1>say a jacket, which might very well be something not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily that the consumer would ever see. But let's say

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<v Speaker 1>an advertising company creates this, uh, this type of of

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<v Speaker 1>jacket that can have a flexible screen on the back

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and then next thing, you know, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>this new way for at trade shows where people can

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<v Speaker 1>show off cool technology and it's literally playing on their backs. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could even imagine it going so far

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<v Speaker 1>as to, let's see, you've got a courier service and

0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you are sponsored, and they run ads on your back

0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:49.360
<v Speaker 1>as you're you're a bike courier. I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that. I look forward to seeing all the accidents

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<v Speaker 1>that will happen as a result of people turning their

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<v Speaker 1>heads to see what to watch. Yeah, they're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>want to follow this guy another mile. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>see how this turns out. Clearly that if you did that,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to make very visually stunning types of ads

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<v Speaker 1>that don't need any audio. That would be that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the real challenge there. Look, I'm just trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just trying to create some jobs out there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm trying to do. Okay, But you also

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<v Speaker 1>have you have your passive matrix. Oh lad, Now passive matrix,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh lads. You know we talked about the cathodes and

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<v Speaker 1>the anodes. Well that's not necessarily a sheet on top

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, when I said sandwich, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about solid sheet, that's not necessarily the case,

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<v Speaker 1>although that can be done a passive matrix. Oh lad.

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<v Speaker 1>What it does is it it arranges the cathodes and

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<v Speaker 1>anodes into strips. And one says strips are vertical and

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<v Speaker 1>the other sets strips are horizontal. So you could think

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<v Speaker 1>of it like all the anodes are streets and all

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<v Speaker 1>the cathodes are avenues. So at these intersections where the

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<v Speaker 1>cathode and anode meat, that's where you have your pixels,

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<v Speaker 1>and your pixels of course, that's the point of light.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you talk about how many picks soles that

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<v Speaker 1>display has at so many points of light it is

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<v Speaker 1>capable of displaying at one time more than that. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be a very low resolution television. Uh. The So

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<v Speaker 1>this is one way of doing that where you have

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<v Speaker 1>the just at the intersections of these strips, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the pixels are uh. Not terribly efficient compared to other

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<v Speaker 1>oh lads and uh And also for all of these screens,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're wondering about controlling brightness, that's a function of

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<v Speaker 1>how much electricity is flowing through the system. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>pouring more juice into it, it's going to be brighter,

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<v Speaker 1>less juice not as bright, which makes sense. Uh. Next

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<v Speaker 1>we have the active matrix, oh lad, and this has

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<v Speaker 1>a full sheet of the cathode and and it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like the sandwich example I was giving earlier. So

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, there is a film transistor that is

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<v Speaker 1>uh gotta. It's an anode layer overlay, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>forms the matrix. Uh, not the kind that NEO goes

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<v Speaker 1>through with all the zeros and ones, but this in

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<v Speaker 1>the it forms the same feature as the intersections on

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<v Speaker 1>the passive matrix. Oh lead, tank, I need an exit. O. Gosh, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>out of all of those, you know, I'm surprised you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say I know kung fu or just whoa uh

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<v Speaker 1>you got your transparent Oh lads, Now these are really

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<v Speaker 1>super cool. Like everything every single element in this oh

0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:33.800
<v Speaker 1>lead is transparent. So when light is uh is flowing

0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:38.520
<v Speaker 1>through this system, then you see it projected within a

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<v Speaker 1>clear screen, and when it's not, you can just look

0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.840
<v Speaker 1>through the screen. Now, this is used in things like

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<v Speaker 1>heads up displays. So you know, you're talking exactly, flying

0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a plane, driving a car, whatever, If you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>heads up display that can show within the uh the

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<v Speaker 1>wind screen or or cockpit screen or whatever. That is

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<v Speaker 1>very likely a transparent oh lead. I've also seen this

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<v Speaker 1>used in smart windows, which was something new. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard about smart windows before, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I had seen one. Was at CS

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<v Speaker 1>where I think it was Samsung that had it, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's a smart window that could display information and it

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<v Speaker 1>could do things that give you like little information like

0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.680
<v Speaker 1>news items or the weather or whatever. Although when you're

0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.240
<v Speaker 1>looking out a window, if you need a weather report,

0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:34.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're looking out a window, you're not being terribly observant. Well,

0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:35.919
<v Speaker 1>it might be nice to know what the temperature is

0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:40.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be open the window. Oh okay, alright, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at the future forecast. Alright, fine, fine, yeah,

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, all right, okay, and I withdraw my objection.

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh what about active matrix I talked about those. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the one with the that's the one with a thin

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<v Speaker 1>film transistor. Do you want I just okay? They used

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<v Speaker 1>as a lot in the phones. So oh yes, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one that does have that thin film transistor

0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about. That's the one that ends up

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<v Speaker 1>taking the place of the intersections. The thin film transistor

0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.959
<v Speaker 1>itself has the connections on it on the anode side

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.760
<v Speaker 1>where it activates where the pixels are, and these pixels

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<v Speaker 1>are active. The fact that they are so thin is

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit when you're talking about these electronic devices. But

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it so much easier to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fit it into these tablet form factors and smartphones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if we were still using if we were using things

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<v Speaker 1>like l c D technology for all of these devices,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be significantly or at least noticeably larger, like

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<v Speaker 1>thicker and and somewhat heavier, and I mean heavy being

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<v Speaker 1>a relative thing. But in the case of it, every

0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.200
<v Speaker 1>ounce counts. Yeah, in a tablet or something like that,

0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, if it adds six ounces. Yeah. There's one

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.879
<v Speaker 1>more type of O lead talk about, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>top emitting OH lead. And this has got a substrate

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<v Speaker 1>that is either opaque or reflective, and they are often used.

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<v Speaker 1>This is often uh like this, this is just one

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.960
<v Speaker 1>subtype of O lead. It can actually be combined with

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 1>another type of A lead. So in other words, that

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<v Speaker 1>active matrix old we were just talking about, that method

0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.399
<v Speaker 1>of display could be combined with the top admitting OH lead. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something that's often used in things like

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<v Speaker 1>smart cards, so lots of different applications of oh leads,

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<v Speaker 1>not just uh displays on phones or UM or TVs

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>or or even you know, computer monitors that kind of thing. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because even though it sounds pretty complex, really

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it's simpler than things like l c D technology. It is.

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>It is much simpler in the grand scheme of things, um,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's more advanced technology, and it's taken years

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of get the prototype, the manufacturing process efficient

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<v Speaker 1>enough so that we can build screens that are at

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<v Speaker 1>the size that we're used to. Even so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have mentioned that, yes, there are television screens coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>like large ones TVs that use o LAD displays. They

0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 1>are incredibly thin, like to the point where you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even really get a good picture of them when you

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.480
<v Speaker 1>look at them in a profile. Um. However, they also

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<v Speaker 1>tend to cost a princely some Yes, that's what I

0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was getting at, is that we have reached the point

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<v Speaker 1>where the manufacturing process has allowed us to build these,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still prohibitively expensive. For I'd say the majority

0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of the consumer market. New TV is likely to cost

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<v Speaker 1>you several thousand dollars we're talking like ten grand, easy,

0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars for oh lad screen easy. Um that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of money for a new television set.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be prepared to spend that much on

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<v Speaker 1>a TV. And if you're talking about using a competing

0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>technology that costs say one fifth of that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>or or or yeah or less depends I think the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing. So for example, I I purchased an l

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<v Speaker 1>E D l c D h D t V for

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<v Speaker 1>um way less than that, like less than a tenth

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 1>of that. And so you look at that and you're

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, yeah, the the technology, the display technology is

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:27.160
<v Speaker 1>clearly superior in that, clearly clearly hauh, in that it's

0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>got a very crisp picture. The colors are are very

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>true true blacks. Yes, because you don't have that backlighting,

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.159
<v Speaker 1>just like plasma. Plasma does not have backlighting, but l

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 1>c D does, which is why if you've ever had

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>l c D television, new mine is an l c

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.400
<v Speaker 1>D t D. It's just backlit by l E D S. Yeah,

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:47.879
<v Speaker 1>so that's why l E D l c D. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you both but but if you're watching in

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<v Speaker 1>a dark room and it's a scene that is like

0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 1>someone walks into a pitch black room in a house,

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>or there's suddenly like a blindfolds put on or whatever.

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You start to notice like, wait a minute, my my

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>screen is actually kind of glowing, like it's not really black,

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it's just really dark and I can see that there's

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>light trying to shine through. Hey, it's pitch gray in there. Yeah,

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that's not a true black. But oh leads and uh

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and true l a ed TVs and um uh plasma

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>TVs they have true blacks where because there's no light

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>coming through right that that part of the screen is inactive,

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's as dark as it's gonna get. Um. Yeah,

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>So that's another nice thing that the color ratios on

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:37.400
<v Speaker 1>these contrast ratios are really really good. The but yeah,

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it's even though it's superior, it's just it's gonna take

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a while before that price is gonna drop low enough

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 1>for it to be within the reach of the average consumer,

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah. And the flexible displays are are always

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 1>off too. I think those will probably we'll price see

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>those used in commercial projects first. Oh sure, well, I

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 1>mean that's where the money is. People are gonna be

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 1>willing to spend that for their company to do advertising

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>or to do whatever. Um, I'm sure some mobile will

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>add them to their UM sports stadium. Yeah. Now eventually,

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>look at what I got. Yeah, eventually we may see

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that incorporate into consumer goods. Like I could imagine a

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.400
<v Speaker 1>like an o LED bracelet, right, like a thick oh

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>lad bracelet that fits around your wrist. It can display

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the time, and it can do other stuff. Sure where

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it would be really thin, so you can have one

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that is you know, you can even get some of

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>different lengths, so you can get one that fits your

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.239
<v Speaker 1>wrist really snugly, and then you can show all this

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>uh this UM content off, yes snugly, and the battery

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and and processor and everything would be on the underside

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of it, so it's not always on display. Uh that

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>unless you're you know, a nurse, in which cases the

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>other way around. Uh the But yeah, that I could

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>easily see that happening further down the line. Um, And

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the potential for oh LEDs is pretty high. I mean we're,

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like I said, we've already seen it in consumer goods

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>like like smartphones and tablets, where it's really helped make

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>these things as sleek and slender as they possibly can be.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see. By the time this podcast

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>goes out, we'll know more about it. But I can't

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:25.479
<v Speaker 1>wait to see how the new iPad looks. Um and

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that it's going to be using an organic

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>light emitting diode screen, possibly a retina display. We don't know,

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>because as we're recording this, it's the week before Apple

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>has its big announcement. Maybe it won't be an iPad

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>at all. Yeah, that's true, And I could come out

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that the March seven, uh discussion it has nothing to

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>do with an iPad, in which case I'll just be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're waiting around. But I would be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that's when it's time for a new iPad. Al right, guys, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that wraps up our discussion on oh LEDs. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>electrons moving from the cathode to the an out and

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