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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Lots to dive into as we come up on the

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Speaker 1: end of November, and we are going to be very

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Speaker 1: rapidly able to say in one month voting starts for

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election, and many of you listening

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Speaker 1: to us in Iowa, New Hampshire and certainly any bordering

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Speaker 1: state in that region feel like the election has been

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Speaker 1: going on for a long time now based on all

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Speaker 1: of the political advertisements you have been seeing. And as

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Speaker 1: we get ready for Ron DeSantis to debate against Gavin

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Speaker 1: Newsom on Thursday, and what will be the fourth Republican

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Speaker 1: primary debate next week it should be taking place in Tuscaloosa, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: with Chris Christy, the Ay Ramaswami, Nikki Haley, and Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis on the stage. I think it is fair to say,

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Speaker 1: as we sit here really about six weeks out from

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Speaker 1: official voting, that right now, the great debate that is

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Speaker 1: going on in the Republican primary elector it is Trump

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Speaker 1: versus Who, And I'm reading from the New York Times

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Speaker 1: this morning, the Coke Network has endorsed Nicky Haley in

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Speaker 1: and I'm reading this New York Times headline in a

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Speaker 1: bid to push Republicans past Trump. The support will give

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Speaker 1: Haley more organizational strength as she battles Ron DeSantis for

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Speaker 1: the number two spot in the Republican presidential race. And

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Speaker 1: this is the Coke Network theoretically going to lead to

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Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars being spent on behalf of

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley and Buck. What stands out to me about

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Speaker 1: this is, right now, we seem to be in a

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Speaker 1: pause where it's not so much everyone running against the

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Speaker 1: the leader Trump as it is. Okay, who is going

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Speaker 1: to be the alternative to Trump in the Republican primary.

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Speaker 1: It's fair to say it's down to Ron DeSantis and

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley. I like Vivek, You like Viveke. We've had

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Speaker 1: Chris Christy on the show. Those guys don't really have

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Speaker 1: a chance to become the alternative. It is going to

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Speaker 1: be Nicky Haley or Ron DeSantis. But my question for you, Buck,

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Speaker 1: is is it the case that as now Nicky Haley

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Speaker 1: and Ron DeSantis are likely turning their guns on each

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Speaker 1: other and trying to be the surviving number two, the

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Speaker 1: alternative to Trump. That this is the best possible thing

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Speaker 1: that could ever happen to Trump, and that while there

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Speaker 1: is a battle to figure out who's going to be

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Speaker 1: in second place, by the time a second place is determined,

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Speaker 1: Trump is already going to have won the nomination and

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Speaker 1: it's not going to matter. How would you assess the

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Speaker 1: so called horse ray, because I think that is six

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Speaker 1: weeks out the number one story not who's going to

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Speaker 1: be running against Trump, but who is the primary alternative

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Speaker 1: to Trump.

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Speaker 2: Well, clearly something is going on here because the Haley

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Speaker 2: and DeSantis super packs are attacking each other, millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars spent now recently going after each other instead of

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Speaker 2: going after Trump, the front runner. I see a couple

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Speaker 2: of different versions of the strategy here unfolding before us.

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Speaker 2: On the one hand, I think it's possible that both

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Speaker 2: of the and this is certainly what they would say openly, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean option A, I think is the official position,

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Speaker 2: and it would be that the DeSantis and Haley camps

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Speaker 2: are saying the other one. Depending on which one you're

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Speaker 2: talking about, the other second tier needs to get out

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Speaker 2: so I can square off against Trump, which I've been

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Speaker 2: talking about looking at those numbers. That's option A. Option

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Speaker 2: B is at a little bit of it of of

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Speaker 2: a different, different vibe, which is that they're hoping to

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Speaker 2: be in a second place position. I mean specifically, I

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Speaker 2: think for the Nikki Haley camp, where it's a contest

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Speaker 2: to be vice president effectively, right, like Trump's only got

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Speaker 2: one term for if Haley can assure herself a VP

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Speaker 2: ticket with Trump and then bring that together meaning her voters,

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Speaker 2: his voters, she only gets she only has to be

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Speaker 2: the VP for two years basically, and then she starts

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Speaker 2: running for president. Then she's going out raising her own

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Speaker 2: money and maybe does so with the blessing of Trump. Right,

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Speaker 2: that's option B. I think that's the less likely strategy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the plan be here, the secondary option. And

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there's a viable option C,

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Speaker 2: a viable third third way here. The only thing would

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Speaker 2: be that the Haley and DeSantis campaigns figure they just

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Speaker 2: have to stay in long enough. And no one will

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Speaker 2: say this out loud, they just have to stay in

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Speaker 2: long enough to see, you know, maybe Trump ends up

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Speaker 2: running into some trouble here with these prosecutions, and maybe

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Speaker 2: the numbers shift and maybe things you know that would

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Speaker 2: be I think the third way, the third plan. Am

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Speaker 2: I missing anything or do you disagree with any of those?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean here's my thought of where we're headed.

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Speaker 1: I think ron De Santis is going to come in

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Speaker 1: second place in Iowa, and then I think Nicki Haley's

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Speaker 1: going to come in second place in New Hampshire, and

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Speaker 1: as a result, both of them are going to claim

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Speaker 1: they're actually the primary challenger to Trump, which means we

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Speaker 1: roll on into I think South Carolina, Nevada, these other states,

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Speaker 1: and Trump is going against Nicki Haley, Ronda Santis. I

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Speaker 1: think the Vega hold on. I think Chris Christy after

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire will drop out and endorse either Nicky Haley

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Speaker 1: on this show Wednesday if he were not the alternative

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Speaker 1: to Trump, that he would endorse Haley or DeSantis. He

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Speaker 1: it's the problem is that I see and look open

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Speaker 1: phone lines. We don't have any guests today. Eight hundred

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Speaker 1: to tell Buck or myself what are we missing. I

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Speaker 1: think that this battle for who is going to be

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Speaker 1: the alternative to Trump is hugely beneficial for Trump, and

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Speaker 1: so the idea this was the whole thing that happened

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Speaker 1: Buck in twenty sixteen, which is sooner or later you're

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Speaker 1: going to be on the stage one v one versus Trump,

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Speaker 1: and Trump will collapse. Then I just keep coming back

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Speaker 1: to the raw math, and you can correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong out there, and you are a diehard Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley supporter, I think that Ron DeSantis, if he decided tomorrow, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm dropping out of this race. I think Ron de

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Speaker 1: santis supporters would overwhelmingly go to Trump. In other words,

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Speaker 1: I don't see and tell me where I'm wrong. They

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Speaker 1: are Nicky Haley people out there listening right now. Tell

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Speaker 1: me why you think I'm wrong. I don't see how

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley wins a one v one versus Trump, because

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Speaker 1: I think the FAG supporters go to Trump. I think

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Speaker 1: DeSantis's supporters go to Trump. I mean the majority of them.

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Speaker 1: And if Nicky Haley's already forty points behind or thirty

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Speaker 1: points or whatever you want to say, she is in Iowa,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I am not a mathematical scholar, buck, but

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at mathematical ideas the impact. I think

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Speaker 1: i've said this to you before you'll appreciate this. The

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Speaker 1: only math course I took in college was mathematical ideas.

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Speaker 2: That's literally what that sounds are really really numerical and intest.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And it was me and every sorority girl at

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Speaker 1: George Washington University. It is maybe the best course selection

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Speaker 1: choice I ever made. Not diehard math, right, but I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty good at mathematical concepts and the raw math. If

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Speaker 1: I'm standing in front of a board right now and

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Speaker 1: I'm drawing it, Nicky Haley's supporters are not going to

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Speaker 1: Trump DeSantis supporters. I think the majority of them would

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Speaker 1: out here for Nicki Haley. What am I missing?

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Speaker 2: So if I'm advising Nicky Haley behind the scenes, if

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Speaker 2: I'm giving her my sort of best sense of what's

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Speaker 2: going to happen here, I don't see how she could

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Speaker 2: have a safer play. Then Look, everyone has to see

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Speaker 2: what the voting is in Iowa, New Hampshire, and then

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Speaker 2: I think there may be deals to be struck. I

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Speaker 2: think you're right. I think that DeSantis is likely to

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Speaker 2: come in second in Iowa. If DeSantis pulls out a

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Speaker 2: all fall and people change their minds. I mean, that

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Speaker 2: it's impossible. I don't know. I always point out and

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Speaker 2: no one can predict the future. But to me, if

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Speaker 2: DeSantis is able to win in Iowa, maybe something big

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Speaker 2: happens if he comes in second and then Haley comes

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Speaker 2: in second in New Hampshire. If I'm the Haley camp,

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Speaker 2: I say, look, if you can bring together the donor

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Speaker 2: class with Trump World, you win the primary. I don't

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Speaker 2: you know that. My pitch would be, Hey, Donald, woman VP,

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Speaker 2: who is tight with the donor class, who worked in

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Speaker 2: your administration.

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Speaker 1: That then left your administration in good, good stead. See

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Speaker 1: that's my thing. I don't think Nikki Hayley's really bucked

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Speaker 1: trying to win well.

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Speaker 2: But but if she's trying to be VP, she's playing

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Speaker 2: it very well because what she ends up doing here

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Speaker 2: in this process, this is what I was gonna go

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Speaker 2: to is she is a fact She has taken the

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Speaker 2: mantle from Viveake of the other person in the race

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Speaker 2: who is boxing out Rohn DeSantis. She is doing a

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Speaker 2: better job to box out the Desanta's team than Viveke

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Speaker 2: of Trump world. And you'll notice she does have I

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Speaker 2: missed anything. She doesn't go after Trump all that hard.

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Speaker 2: She'll say, oh, I think I'm better at the job. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, everyone should say that if they're gonna run

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Speaker 2: for president, but she hasn't. She's not you know, uh,

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Speaker 2: talking about the insurrection or saying that twenty twenty wasn't

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Speaker 2: stolen or whatever. She's not going after Trump hard. I

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Speaker 2: think she's leaving the option. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just again, it basic mathematics, and I'm open to again,

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Speaker 1: I took mathematical ideas.

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Speaker 1: I am not, you know, a genius when it comes

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Speaker 2: I'm not pythagorous here.

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Speaker 1: But I do look at this and just say, man,

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Speaker 1: it's going to play out, Nikki Hayley is setting herself

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Speaker 1: up to be Donald Trump's vice president. She's not setting

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Speaker 1: herself up to beat Trump. Ron DeSantis. I think both

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Speaker 1: of us agree. Buck will not take the VP role

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Speaker 1: from Donald Trump like he.

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Speaker 2: Like, no way, No. I mean, look at this again.

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Speaker 2: If we were sitting there and being asked to coach

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Speaker 2: or advise any respective team here, if you're De Santa's team,

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Speaker 2: you finish out being governor and then you gear up

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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty eight. I don't think you take I

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Speaker 2: don't think you take a VP slot. I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if if you are out there and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the percentage of our audience is, but

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Speaker 1: let's say it's forty Let's say it's forty five percent.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's thirty five percent. If you are die

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Speaker 1: the math would add up for Ron DeSantis, because I

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Speaker 1: think the kill shot here would be Trump just coming

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Speaker 1: over the top and getting Nicky Haley as his VP

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Speaker 1: and you know, just basically saying this thing's over.

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Speaker 2: And at that point he could probably also offer Viveke something.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, certainly.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think that they could be Secretary of the Treasury,

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Speaker 1: like whatever My argument is, If Nicky Haley really doesn't

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Speaker 1: want Trump to be president, I don't see how she

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Speaker 1: beats Trump, and I'm not sure Ron to say again,

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Speaker 1: it comes down to the math.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Ron de sante.

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Speaker 1: But if Nicky Haley really doesn't want Trump to be president,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about something that I think is going to

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Speaker 2: When you're looking at numbers like that, everyone recognizes, or

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Speaker 2: Fox Business reporter who has done the math on what

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Speaker 2: What are we paying in this country? What are you

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Speaker 2: Play twenty.

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Speaker 3: We have new numbers, a new report from the US

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Speaker 2: So we're looking at half a trillion pretty much, getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the math isn't that hard to add up when

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Speaker 2: The piece in the Wall Street Journal I think you're

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Speaker 2: If you don't change that, Clay, nothing else we do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is where you know that it's a

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Speaker 2: That's a conflict. Again.

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Speaker 2: or something to help with border communities, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: But they ultimately it is the Pelosis and the Shoomers

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Speaker 2: of the world who want open borders. And let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: they want it because the donor class wants it. They

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Speaker 2: want they're on board with this. But to your point

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Speaker 2: at about minority support for it, a lot of minorities,

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Speaker 2: I think rightly. I mean when I say minorities, Black Americans,

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Speaker 2: Latino Americans and you know other groups you could put

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Speaker 2: in the same on the same side of this, are

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Speaker 2: looking at You're spending billions of dollars. People aren't even

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Speaker 2: supposed to be in the country legally, right, And I

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Speaker 2: think some immigrants too even realize. Hold on a second,

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Speaker 2: I went through some process, I had to wait years,

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Speaker 2: I had to pay immigration lawyers. I could have just said, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm scared to be in my home country. Is it

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Speaker 2: true or not? Who cares? I think lying should matter.

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Speaker 2: By the way, lying to federal officials is actually a crime.

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Speaker 2: I know we only enforced laws very selectively now in

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Speaker 2: the new era of America we're in. But you know,

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Speaker 2: social Security card presentation, fraud, signing documents that say you're

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Speaker 2: a citizen, or that you are legally working here. These

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Speaker 2: are all crimes. Lying to immigration officials of the border

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Speaker 2: that's a crime. Entering the US without permission, crossing our

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Speaker 2: federal boundary at the southern border, that's a crime. These

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Speaker 2: are all violations of law. Why are we not supposed

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Speaker 2: to care. I'm supposed to pay my taxes, But all

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Speaker 2: the illegal stuff that's going on with immigration that's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be fine based on what based on the power

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Speaker 2: needs of Democrats. Yeah, I don't sign on to that one.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that's okay with me.

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Speaker 1: I also wonder to what extent, you know, Trump did

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Speaker 1: everything that the Republican Party brain trust said he should

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Speaker 1: not do in twenty sixteen, and he won. And not

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Speaker 1: only did he win, he's increased his minority support as

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Speaker 1: people have become more aware of him and aware of

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Speaker 1: his policies. Twenty twenty now twenty twenty four. I think

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Speaker 1: the numbers are reflecting that if Trump's the nominee, he

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Speaker 1: will have more minority support than maybe any Republican has

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Speaker 1: ever had among black voters, for instance, and certainly Hispanic

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Speaker 1: vote is increasing. I wonder if if Democrats buck ever

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Speaker 1: start to look back at these these numbers, because here's

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Speaker 1: the reality of ky Can I give you some of the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Real, real quick? Yeah, I mean, because the Washington Post

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Speaker 2: wrote this off ed and this is why there are

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Speaker 2: they at least have to make the noise. This always

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Speaker 2: happens in election cycles. Democrats go, we care about the

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Speaker 2: border too, and okay, maybe it is kind of They

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Speaker 2: start they start pivoting a little bit toward the center

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Speaker 2: because the country, all the polling shows this, the country

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Speaker 2: is not with them on this open border stuff. They

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Speaker 2: lie about it. They try to come up with polls like, oh,

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Speaker 2: do you like immigrants or not? Well, that's not what

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Speaker 2: the issue is. The issue is illegal immigration on our

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Speaker 2: southern border. That's a violation of law and exploitation of asylum. Okay,

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Speaker 2: majority of Democrats Okay, this is a Fox News poll,

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Speaker 2: but earlier this month, the majority of Democrats very concerned

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Speaker 2: about border security. Quinnipiac polling this month, seventy one percent

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Speaker 2: of Independence and thirty percent of Democrats disapproved of Biden's

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Speaker 2: handling of immigration. I say, okay, only thirty percent disapprove

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Speaker 2: of Biden overall on this seventy one percent of Independence.

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Speaker 2: That's a rough number for these Democrats going into the

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Speaker 2: election year.

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Speaker 1: Even thirty percent of your own political party disapproving of

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Speaker 1: your position on something. I mean, I think the numbers

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Speaker 1: reflect that immigration is the single weakest of all of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's policies in terms of independence and national response.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why they're trying to figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to take action on what's going on in our

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Speaker 1: southern border. The challenge, and as you well know, Buck,

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Speaker 1: the challenge here is will anything get passed?

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Speaker 2: Who knows?

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Speaker 1: And the problem is it takes months for the action

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Speaker 1: to have consequences in terms of border flow, and in

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Speaker 1: the meantime we've got eight million people across the border.

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Speaker 1: I do think one of the ultimate plays here has

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Speaker 1: been all of these people are going to come to

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Speaker 1: the country and they're likely Democrat voters, and this will

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Speaker 1: guarantee that we win elections long into the future. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt that that is the calculus

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Speaker 1: behind why these open border policies are in many ways embraced.

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Speaker 1: The challenge is, what if that calculus is wrong? What

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Speaker 1: if really the population is increasing and the numbers are

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Speaker 1: roughly staying the same in terms of Hispanic support for

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Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans, hech what if as Hispanics live in

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Speaker 1: the country they become more conservative. I'm talking about legal

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Speaker 1: immigrants because they look around and they say, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of craziness in the Democrat Party right now, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to take at some point a

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Speaker 1: This is my theory, and I've had this theory for

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Speaker 1: a while. The identity politics coalition of the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: is not sustainable. At some point it's going to explode

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Speaker 1: and feed on itself. Maybe Israel, the situation there is

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Speaker 1: starting to accelerate that. But certainly we had already seen

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Speaker 1: minority voters fleeing before we even got to this situation.

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Speaker 1: And I think the border is a big reason why.

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Speaker 2: I hope so we do get excited about this stuff.

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Speaker 2: I feel like every election cycle and there'll probably be

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Speaker 2: some nonprofit that comes forward that's like, we're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna win the Black American vote this year as Republicans,

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Speaker 2: or we're going to get you know, sixty five percent

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Speaker 2: of Latino vote. I'm just saying it never, somehow never materializes,

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Speaker 2: but maybe this time around will actually make some headway.

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Speaker 2: It'll make the difference. That would be nice. There's no

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Speaker 2: denying the impact that AI has had in such a

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Speaker 2: short amount of time. Between the smart devices we have

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Speaker 2: in our homes, the first autonomous vehicles, and advanced diagnostic

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Speaker 2: tools in the healthcare industry, it's safe to say AI

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Speaker 2: isn't going anywhere. Tech expert Colin Tedards believes this is

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Speaker 2: the beginning of a new era that could make you rich.

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Speaker 2: He's been writing about AI for quite some time now.

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Speaker 2: When the market hit rock bottom a year ago. This month,

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Speaker 2: Colin recommended shares of a top software company that software

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Speaker 2: companies up over two hundred percent since then, and anyone

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Speaker 2: who listened to Colin had a chance to more than

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Speaker 2: double their money in less than a year. But now

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Speaker 2: he's recommending a new AI company that he says could

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Speaker 2: do even better. And he says he's found a way

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Speaker 2: for you to profit from this new AI project right

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Speaker 2: from your brokerage account. Go to newaiproject dot com. That's

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Speaker 2: newaiproject dot com to learn more. New AI project dot

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Speaker 2: com paid for by Brownstone Research. So we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the big debate, global debate that is happening every day

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Speaker 2: now over the Israeli response to Hamas's October seventh mass

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Speaker 2: casualty terror attack, mass murder and mass rape terror attack.

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Speaker 2: And I do think that that does not get brought

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Speaker 2: into the conversation enough. I appreciate that Douglas Murray made

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Speaker 2: the point and this went very viral. We play this

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Speaker 2: for you on the show that it is a historical

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Speaker 2: fact that there were there were high level Nazis who

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Speaker 2: recognized that what they were doing was evil. They still

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Speaker 2: did it. This is not in any way mitigating the

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Speaker 2: evil of what they did, but they recognize the evil

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Speaker 2: and so some of them had to turn to extremely

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Speaker 2: high levels of drinking. They would have to get very,

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Speaker 2: very drunk before they would do some of the executions. Again,

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Speaker 2: Doug Murray talked about this, and we played that clip

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Speaker 2: for you on the show, and you can then compare

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Speaker 2: that with the reports and the audio of Hamas terrorists

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Speaker 2: calling their parents to say, I just cut the head

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Speaker 2: off of a Jew. I'm a hero. Now, I mean

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Speaker 2: true vile psychopathy that is not only celebrated by members

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Speaker 2: of Hamas, but there's broad support for Hamas inside of Gaza,

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Speaker 2: which you will also not hear very much. Now, these

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Speaker 2: are uncomfortable truths, but these are realities as well. And

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Speaker 2: if you've seen some of the videos of the Israeli

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Speaker 2: hostages being taken away to be traded, and the way

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Speaker 2: that people on the street in Gaza respond to this,

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Speaker 2: you know they're basically act like you know, they're an anger,

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Speaker 2: greed jeering mob at these hostages who haven't taken. So

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Speaker 2: Piers Morgan, who sometimes says things that I agree with,

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Speaker 2: sometimes says things that I think are very dumb. And

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Speaker 2: I would say that to him if you were here

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Speaker 2: on the show. We'll probably have him on at some point.

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Speaker 2: Occasionally he's right. Sometimes he's a buffoon, or I should

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Speaker 2: say his opinions I feel are deeply ignorant and very wrong.

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Speaker 2: Buffoon is you know that's a little unfair here. He

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Speaker 2: is not an unintelligent guy, That's what I mean. That correct.

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Speaker 2: I think he's deeply wrong on some things. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying he's a dumb guy, but I think he's right

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Speaker 2: on some things too. We've played when he's right. Here

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Speaker 2: he is, though he's asking a question. I think we

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Speaker 2: should try to answer this question about when is Israel

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Speaker 2: going too far? Place seven.

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Speaker 4: I've been picked up this weekend by people reminding me

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Speaker 4: of tweets from twenty fourteen. Then Israel launched a massive

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Speaker 4: bombardment of guards from a sponsor to murder a three

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Speaker 4: as ready teenagers in the West Bank. What happened, I'm asked,

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Speaker 4: why did I change my position? Well, I haven't changed

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Speaker 4: my position. Is well committed atrocities in twenty fourteen. In

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Speaker 4: my estimation, it was a complete disproportionate response to what

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Speaker 4: had happened. It looked more like revenge to me than

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Speaker 4: a military strategy, and President Obama told them to call

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Speaker 4: it off. We'll join that at BOMBARDMA and I asked,

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Speaker 4: at what point does Israel's current military strategy become the

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Speaker 4: very terrorism professes to be fighting? And today I'm beginning

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Speaker 4: to ask myself that exact same question.

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Speaker 2: Now, Clay, I could cite another British voice on this

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Speaker 2: when he has since passed away, Christopher Hitchins, who, while

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Speaker 2: again wrong on some things, understood the threat of radical

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Speaker 2: Islam very well and said that the root fallacy in

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Speaker 2: the fight against radical Islam is that the fighting against

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Speaker 2: terrorism is the cause of it, and that this is

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Speaker 2: very popular on the left. You'll often see this this

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Speaker 2: leftist in this country college campuses, leftists in the media.

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Speaker 2: You know, they'll say, well, for every terrorist we kill,

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Speaker 2: we create one hundred more. For example, Well, what are

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Speaker 2: we supposed to do then, what is the response to

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Speaker 2: be when they invade your country effectively and rape and

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Speaker 2: murder to the greatest degree they possibly can civilians. Then

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Speaker 2: we go to the negotiating table and say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: We're going to send you more aid, We're going to

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Speaker 2: give you more money. No, you have to go and

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Speaker 2: kill them. Elon Musk just visited Israel. Here's what he says,

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Speaker 2: cut six. He understands this moment.

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Speaker 5: There are three things that need to happen in the

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Speaker 5: Gaza situation. I mean, there's no choice but to kill

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Speaker 5: those who insist on murdering civilians. There's no choice. They're

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Speaker 5: not going to change their mind. And then the second

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Speaker 5: thing is to change the education so that a new

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Speaker 5: generation of murderers is not trained to be murderers. And

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Speaker 5: then the third thing, it's also very important, is to

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Speaker 5: try to build prosperity.

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Speaker 2: He's basically saying, you've got to fix Gaza, and it's

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Speaker 2: all Gaza to be fixed because the rock stretches far

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Speaker 2: beyond jimas Clay to the question appears we're gonna ask

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Speaker 2: or that he's raising when Israel. When does the Israeli

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Speaker 2: response become terrorism? It becomes terrorism when Israel decides they're

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Speaker 2: going to kill as many civilians as they possibly can,

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Speaker 2: which they don't do, so it is not terrorism.

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Speaker 1: Now, you're one hundred percent right, And I think it's

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Speaker 1: important to point out that evilon Musk is being characterized

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Speaker 1: as an anti Semite and that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of different brands that are pulling their advertising off of

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Speaker 1: Twitter because he has been unwilling to tiptoe up to

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Speaker 1: the truth here, which is good and evil exists. And

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Speaker 1: I think maybe this is you know, I had this

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Speaker 1: conversation with some people around Thanksgiving. I hope some of

648
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Speaker 1: you did with your kids and your grandkids. The illusion

649
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: that everything is gray, that is, there is no black

650
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: and white, there is no good in evil has I

651
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: think taken over much of the United States. And I

652
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: think it's because, by and large, and I'm curious if

653
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Speaker 1: you would agree with this thesis, Buck, most Americans, thankfully

654
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Speaker 1: do not experience evil in our day to day life.

655
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Speaker 2: Most now.

656
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Speaker 1: Occasionally you or your close relatives, your friends, your family

657
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: may be a victim of some sort of violent crime,

658
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Speaker 1: and you may for a pinprick of time stare into

659
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Speaker 1: what it is to see evil in this country. But

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Speaker 1: I think most Americans we have created a society, particularly

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Speaker 1: if you are wealthy or you are upper middle class,

662
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: where actual evil doesn't exist in your life, and kids

663
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Speaker 1: need to buy into the idea. I think that they

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Speaker 1: are on the side of truth and justice. That's part

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Speaker 1: of growing up that you are going to fight for

666
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Speaker 1: a cause, and the cause isn't actually anything in the

667
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Speaker 1: good and evil realm. It's oh, my goodness, somebody has

668
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: a different opinion than me on social media, and so

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Speaker 1: they aren't able to even recognize evil when they.

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Speaker 2: See it, which is scary. That's the critical point because

671
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Speaker 2: when you said that, they don't believe that there's evil. No, no,

672
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: they just don't recognize what is evil and have replaced

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Speaker 2: it with fashions and widespread trends and and sort of

674
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: a mass delusion theory about things like, you know, you're

675
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Speaker 2: you're literally committing genocide, they will say against trans people

676
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Speaker 2: by negating their transition or negating their you know, their

677
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Speaker 2: gender pronouns. I mean, this is crazy. They believe this.

678
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Speaker 2: You're actually helping bring about the end of humanity if

679
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Speaker 2: you don't address the imminent threat of climate change, which

680
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: is insane. I mean, these are crazy, it is. But

681
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: what they've done is that impulse that we have that

682
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: we all have as human beings, I think, to do

683
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: good and to fight against evil. They've replaced what is

684
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Speaker 2: good and evil in their minds and left adopts a

685
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Speaker 2: philosophy of moral relativity and collectivism. So they sign onto

686
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Speaker 2: these things, they sign onto the battle against these these

687
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: great evils in their minds that in some cases are

688
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Speaker 2: entire just entirely irrelevant. I mean, it's a phantom, but

689
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: also makes them useful Saulolynski style for the mobilization against

690
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Speaker 2: political opponents. And in this case, their political opponents are

691
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Speaker 2: people like you and me and this audience who recognize

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Speaker 2: that Hamas are the bad guys and all this other

693
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Speaker 2: talk about, oh, but they're oppressed, or look at history

694
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Speaker 2: or it's great or whatever. No. No, at some point,

695
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Speaker 2: the guy who's breaking into a house to murder the

696
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Speaker 2: whole family and steal everything they have is just the

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Speaker 2: bad guy. Yeah. I don't care how he grew up.

698
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Speaker 2: I don't care what was done to him twenty years ago.

699
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Speaker 2: I don't care about you know, historical oppression or whatever.

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Speaker 2: He's just a bad guy. And you want to help

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Speaker 2: that homeowner defend himself and eliminate the for civilization.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and increasingly, it seems to me, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about this some in the third hour. The left focuses

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Speaker 1: on things that are not actual crimes and treats them

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Speaker 1: as morally and defensible, like this little kid painting his

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Speaker 1: face and go into a football game while refusing to

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Speaker 1: condemn actual violence. And here's the reality, everybody before us

708
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Speaker 1: was not an imbecile.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Part of I think conservatism in general is presuming that

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Speaker 1: people who lived and died before you were not all

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Speaker 1: total morons, that they did understand some of what it

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Speaker 1: was to be human. But the entire precept of our

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Speaker 1: criminal justice code, to your point, is that we rank

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Speaker 1: violence and treat violent crimes differently. Murder in the first

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Speaker 1: degree is different than jaywalking, right, And the punishments for

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Speaker 1: crimes should be commensurate with the quality and severity of

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Speaker 1: those crimes. And we don't even we're not able to

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Speaker 1: do that in this day and age, younger people have

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Speaker 1: lost that ability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, an ununderstanding of degree and severity is I think

722
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Speaker 2: one of the most important things that you can have

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Speaker 2: as a judgment. I mean, to be able to be

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Speaker 2: a person of judgment or a nation that can exercise judgment.

725
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Speaker 2: You can understand that there are things that can be

726
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: broadly similar, but there are critical distinctions within them. I

727
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: give a perfect example. I mean the Soviets when they

728
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Speaker 2: were running anti US propaganda and don't even get me

729
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: started on Oppenheimer again, that COMI trash movie. But when

730
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Speaker 2: they're running you know, propaganda, they would always talk about

731
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Speaker 2: America's history of slavery. You know, it's like, well, they're

732
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Speaker 2: doing this in the nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: Why they're talking about America's history of slavery, And anytime

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Speaker 2: they would be pressed on an issue, they would revert.

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Speaker 2: The same thing. In Cuba, all the worst dictators, all

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Speaker 2: the worst authoritarians, they will find those who actually stand

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Speaker 2: for freedom and point out that they are imperfect and

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Speaker 2: then say, so, we don't have to Ahmedinajad you remember him, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: leader of IRANBA the day invited at Columbia University in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. I'll never forget this. I was

741
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: still at the CIA at the time. I was just

742
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Speaker 2: reading about the newspapers. Akhmedinajad, president of Iran, shows up

743
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Speaker 2: at Columbia University and you know, all those kids are

744
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: there to hear about Oh yeah, like oppression and the

745
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Zionist entity, and we see what goes on campuses. But

746
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Speaker 2: they realize Hold on a second. When he was asked

747
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Speaker 2: about gay people in his country and oppression of gays,

748
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Speaker 2: you know what he said, right, we don't have any

749
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: gay people. Oh yeah, I remember that and all of

750
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: a sudden, the left was like, oh, wait a second,

751
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Speaker 2: Wait a second, because he's an evil man representing an

752
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Speaker 2: evil regime, and his criticisms of the US are made

753
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: in entirely bad faith, very similar to what I see

754
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: going on with Hamas and the Palestinian cause. By the way,

755
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: all these people say, oh, you just want all the

756
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Speaker 2: Palestinians to die. Anyone who says that on my Twitter

757
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: mentions is a moron. I don't even engage with them

758
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: because of course that's not true. And if Israel wanted

759
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: every Palestinian to die in Gaza, you know what, they

760
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: could do exactly that, but they don't want to do

761
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: that because they try to act with morality. China to

762
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Speaker 2: build on your analogy. In its most recent one of

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Speaker 2: its most recent meetings with America, spent almost the entire

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Speaker 2: meeting in the public sphere arguing that America didn't have

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Speaker 2: to be accepted because of its legacy of racism. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean this is what you. I mean that the

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Speaker 2: Hamas Israel thing. And you're like, if you sat down

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Speaker 2: with somebody Clay who's a serial killer, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: why do you kill all those people? And he's like Clay,

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Speaker 2: why did you speed five years ago? You're a criminal too. Yeah, well,

771
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: but that's not how morality works, folks, is it. But

772
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Speaker 2: you look at the left, that's exactly what they're doing

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00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: now with Israel and Palestine. And when is it terrorism?

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Speaker 2: When Israel responds, you know when you see it, and

775
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Speaker 2: what they're doing is a military campaign to destroy a

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Speaker 2: terrorist entity that's a continuous threat to the Israeli people.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to hit you with this buck because this

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Speaker 1: even moved through your your news cycle. It is turned

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Speaker 1: into a big story, and I bet a lot of

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Speaker 1: you have heard about it, but still many of you

802
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Speaker 1: have not either. So the Kansas City Chiefs are a

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Speaker 1: popular football team. They are the defending Super Bowl champions.

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00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: They are the Kansas City Chiefs. A kid, probably based

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Speaker 1: on the picture Buck, I would say a seven or

806
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Speaker 1: eight year old kid, maybe a nine year old kid

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Speaker 1: elementary school age right second, third, fourth, fifth grade, something

808
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Speaker 1: like that kid wore a head dress as a to

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Speaker 1: pay homage to to dress up in a costume for

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Speaker 1: a football game, which not really that uncommon, And he

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Speaker 1: also painted his face. Half of his face was black,

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Speaker 1: the other half was red. The Kansasity Chiefs primary team

813
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Speaker 1: color is red, one of their team colors is black.

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Speaker 1: There's like four different official team colors of the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. But he was wearing a head dress half

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Speaker 1: a red, half black. He was appeared on the broadcast

817
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Speaker 1: for a short period of time, and the shot that

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Speaker 1: they showed on the broadcast you could only see one

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Speaker 1: half of his face. A website called Deadspin, which I

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Speaker 1: believe has long passed its age of relevancy. Full disclosure.

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Speaker 1: I worked on this website like fifteen sixteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: when it was still primarily about having fun with sports

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Speaker 1: and had not turned into a crazy left wing organization.

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Speaker 1: A writer on that website wrote an article going after

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Speaker 1: the kid and demanding that there be consequences for the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and for the kid based on one

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Speaker 1: half of his face being black. The headline said, the

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Speaker 1: NFL needs to speak out against the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: fan in blackface, native head dress. The NFL needs to

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Speaker 1: speak out about this you know eight or nine year

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Speaker 1: old kid that is wearing this costume, again only based

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Speaker 1: on one side of the face. I have been somewhat

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Speaker 1: encouraged by how much this writer has been getting ridiculed Buck,

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Speaker 1: But I think now you agree with me that the

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Speaker 1: world of sports media is even woker than the world

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Speaker 1: of politics. What was your reaction when you saw this

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Speaker 1: story and it's circulated through your narrative filters.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, respectfully, I think that you know, if

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Speaker 2: you couldn't hack it writing about politics, you know, for

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00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: some people's sports is a little easier to do. That's

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Speaker 2: why when I saw that AI writing Sports Illustrated stories,

842
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: which now Sports Illustrated says is not true. I mean, yeah,

843
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Speaker 2: I could sort of watch and write about the you know,

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Speaker 2: who won in the game or whatever as well. Right,

845
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Speaker 2: I think AI is probably going to take over some

846
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: of those roles pretty quickly. But when I saw this,

847
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: I was reminded immediately of we don't have this this club.

848
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 2: Maybe I can get it to for later on this hour.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when Elon Musk said, I think it

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Speaker 2: was on the Babylon B podcast, I think he was

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Speaker 2: dealing it with Seth Dylan. If memory serves that wokeness

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Speaker 2: is an excuse for people to be cruel but think

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Speaker 2: they're virtuous when they do it, that's really the heart

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Speaker 2: of wokeness. I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like that

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Speaker 2: that wokeness is just an excuse for people to be cruel.

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Speaker 2: What could be more cruel than to how old was

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Speaker 2: the kid?

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't know that they've identified with it, but

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Speaker 1: like telementary age, I mean I'm saying like second to

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Speaker 1: fifth grade something like that, So like eight, nine, ten

861
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Speaker 1: years old, right, I mean, that's something in that in

862
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Speaker 1: that category.

863
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Speaker 2: Let's just say he's let's say he's roughly ten years old.

864
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Speaker 2: To try to really possibly, just given the way that

865
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Speaker 2: the online world works these days, destroy the life of

866
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Speaker 2: a ten year old boy or his future, or in

867
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Speaker 2: any way make him feel bad or make his parents

868
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Speaker 2: feel bad over something that is so clearly a It's

869
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Speaker 2: not that it's inoffensive. It's a non offense. There is

870
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Speaker 2: no offense. There is no offense possible from this. It

871
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: is impossible to be offended by this. You have to

872
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: pretend to be the dumbest person on the planet to

873
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: believe that this is in any way because, let's get

874
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: to it, what is it. They're accusing them of blackface,

875
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: So they're accusing this this child of doing something that

876
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: is meant to be a mockery of black people. That's insane,

877
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: that's insane. No one believes that. So that's why the

878
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: Babylon b uh you see this. They in response to this,

879
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: they have journalists condemned Little leaguer for wearing twelve percent

880
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: blackface because of the you know the way which is yes,

881
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: people eye black eye black or the Greece, you know,

882
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: the sort of grease pain under the under their eyes

883
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: for the And that's exactly what I was thinking too,

884
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 2: is where is where is the line here? But I'll

885
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: tell you this, as crazy as it is in some

886
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: left wing circles, this actually proves your devotion. It's like

887
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: being the cult member who's willing to do anything, like

888
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: willing to let the leader of the cult. You don't

889
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: sleep with your wife anymore. Only the cult leader can

890
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: sleep with your wife. Yeah, that's the ultimate devotion, right,

891
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: If you're a leftist and you're willing to try to

892
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: slander a ten year old kid. We saw this with

893
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Speaker 2: Comington High School and remember the Native American thing with

894
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: Comington High School kids. CNN was willing to slander. If

895
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: you're willing to slander children to score political points, you're

896
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: a psychopath. But it actually works in the left a

897
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: little bit clay. It actually gets people sometimes. I think

898
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: this case, maybe he's gone too far, but usually it

899
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: works to their favor.

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Speaker 1: So one you mentioned the EyeBlack and the Babylon b

901
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: satirizing it. I believe we mentioned on this show, and

902
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the resolution ended up being. A

903
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: kid got suspended from his California school for wearing EyeBlack

904
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: too much, and they said he was using it and

905
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: doing blackface the picture of the kids. Sometimes people wear

906
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: EyeBlack and like turn it into a design, right, that's

907
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: not uncommon. Excessive amounts of EyeBlack can be a trendy

908
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: thing for someone to do as part of a football game.

909
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: A couple of things that I think also stand out here.

910
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: I hope that this is a moment in time where

911
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: people will reflect if you are an adult demanding consequences

912
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: for a kid and a costume, you are never the

913
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: good guy period. Second part of this, and I hope

914
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 1: the Internet can come to agreement on that second part

915
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 1: of this, and you hit on it. Can we get

916
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: back to intent.

917
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: In the world.

918
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: If you are intending to draw and mock black people

919
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: by wearing blackface. You can be ridiculed, and you should

920
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: be in my opinion, but dressing up at a costume

921
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: at a football game is not remotely that right, So

922
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: what is the intent here? And then ultimately, to me,

923
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: this brings it home. And I tweeted this out and

924
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: I just want all of you to think about this.

925
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: The same leftists who are going after a kid at

926
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: a Kansas City Chiefs football game for painting his face

927
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: half black and half red, believe that it is courageous

928
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: and brave for a man to win a women's championship

929
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: by pretending that he is a woman. If you are

930
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: out there right now and you are defending men dressing

931
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: up as women as courageous and brave, and a kid

932
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: dressing up as an Indian or a Native American or

933
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him as unacceptable and worthy

934
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: of censure, you do not deserve to be treated as

935
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: an adult because your brain is so broken you are imbecile.

936
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: This is where they are buck think of it. I mean,

937
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I think it really drills and distills at home. Man

938
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: pretending to be woman, heroic, grown man pretending to be

939
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: a woman, courageous for him to win a women's sports championship.

940
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Little kid goes to a sporting event and dresses up

941
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: as the mascot of his favorite team. He's racist and

942
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: the entire league needs to take action. I mean, think

943
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: about this. They're demanding that the nfl w track down

944
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: the nine year old and do what to him, not

945
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: allow him to go to watch his favorite team play

946
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: football games anymore.

947
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: That's what they're trying to argue for. But this is

948
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: again the must quote. This was in twenty twenty one.

949
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: He said, at its heart, wokeness is divisive, exclusionary, and hateful.

950
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: It basically gives mean people a shield to be mean

951
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: and cruel, armored in false virtue. That is the single

952
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 2: best That's why I remembered the single best description of

953
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: the heart of wokeness I've actually ever heard anyone give.

954
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: And it's absolutely true. And what could be a more

955
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: clear example of it than this. Uh, The notion that

956
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 2: you would want to humiliate a ten year old as

957
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: an adult writing for a website you know for it

958
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: and think you're the good guy, and think you're the

959
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: good guy just shows the insanity to which the lengths

960
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: of insanity to which people are go willing to go.

961
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: And I think that here there's been a backlash against it.

962
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: But you know, there's also a part of me that

963
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: thinks that, okay, they went too far this time. But

964
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: there really is this There are there are these rules

965
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: now that are constantly in flux. And part of this

966
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: has to also be you know, people just need to

967
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: calm down, like the people who are looking for of

968
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: fence all the time. It's not enough to me to say, Okay,

969
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: we didn't violate, you know, some rule this time. It's

970
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: why I was looking for why I was looking for

971
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: people to to basically hate, you know, why he was

972
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: looking for people who violated some rule of wokeness. There's

973
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: something wrong with them. I mean, there's something deeply unhappy.

974
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: They are the malcontents in our society, and they're never

975
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: going to stop because it comes from a place of

976
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: of of anger, insecurity and and rage, quite honestly, and

977
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: so they look for people. That's why I always hated

978
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 2: that site Gawker. For example, it's rash heap.

979
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Which owned dead Spin, did it, Oh yeah, that's the

980
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: dead Spin was the sports arm of Gawker.

981
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: These these are the these are the places on the

982
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: Internet where they made a business of being openly and

983
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: outwardly cruel, one of the one of the best things.

984
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: Speaking of Hulk Hogan, Hulk Hogan and Peter Teel and

985
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: the funding of that lawsuit to get rid of Gawker

986
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: was a service for humanity, not quite along the lines

987
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: of Elon buying Twitter. I know a lot of you

988
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: don't know what Gawker is, probably don't member you never

989
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: went to the site. It was the place where character

990
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: assassination and the destruction of people's lives was like just

991
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: a constant lol. It was all all for the lulls,

992
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: the lols. And I hope and clearly has some of

993
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: that still.

994
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope this kid sues because he is a

995
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: private figure who was defamed by a prominent publication. And

996
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, we never got the result of what the

997
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: Covington Catholic lawsuits were. They were all settled. But when

998
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: you're a private figure, this is a quick little side

999
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: gesture of the law. The standard by which media is

1000
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: required to treat you is quite different than if you

1001
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: are a public figure. And I would argue that a

1002
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, elementary school kid in the stands at a

1003
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: football game is not a public figure for purposes of

1004
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: adults coming after him.

1005
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: If anyone is a member of this family or knows

1006
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: who this family is, and they I know some people

1007
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: that I think would be very, very interested in helping

1008
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 2: and helping in this situation that family try to get

1009
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: a little justice for their sign and for themselves. So

1010
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: reach out to our team here. Let us know. How

1011
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: can you get in contact.

1012
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: You don't have kids yet, Buck, but I just get

1013
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: so fired up anytime I see adults going after kids.

1014
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: And an elementary school kid goes to a football game

1015
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: to cheer on his favorite team, and you demand that

1016
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: the NFL say something about him painting his face and

1017
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: wearing a head dress, Like where are we that kids

1018
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: dressing up by as Indians is? Like kids can't even

1019
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: play cowboy in Indian anymore. I mean, it's more offensive

1020
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: than men dressing up as women. I can't believe this

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Speaker 1: is where we are. You know, there's an ongoing battle

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Speaker 1: But who's taking action to provide unborn children a chance

1025
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