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Speaker 2: All hell yeah, Brady Quinn, it's a Dan Patrick show

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Normally we do this show

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Speaker 2: with Lebar Arrington Monday through Friday, six am Eastern time,

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Speaker 2: three o'clock Pacific, but.

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Speaker 3: We're doing on We're throwing that around way too much lately. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Two Hall of famers, one one in the Pro Football

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, now one of the College Football Hall

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Speaker 2: Damn right, just to ask him and Professor Styx Yep.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, we forgot we learned that before the

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Speaker 3: end of twenty twenty five. Sticks picks. Yeah, his pick

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Speaker 3: is to be a professor apparently at at Penn State University,

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Speaker 3: which there are some who will be a big time

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Speaker 3: fan of that as I fall into that category. It's

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Speaker 3: like Jonas who are are asking the alumni base if

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Speaker 3: they're upset that that is now watered down their degree,

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Speaker 3: that LaVar is teaching a class.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just you know, I'm all about, you know,

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Speaker 2: be fair and balanced on this show, man, and I

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Speaker 2: just think that it's important to uh to get to

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Speaker 2: the bottom of this stuff. And I also wonder, you

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Speaker 2: know this kind of you know, poison the well, so

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Speaker 2: to speak. That's all I mean. I just I just

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Speaker 2: want to know what. I want to know what these

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Speaker 2: classes are going to look like. I want to know

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Speaker 2: if that's why he's not here because he's preparing for

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Speaker 2: you know, putting together his lectures and all that. I

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Speaker 3: I will say this, and I think you would agree

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Speaker 3: with this. He has been incredibly enlightening in both of

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Speaker 3: our lives for the many times and conversations we've had,

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Speaker 3: mostly off the mic. That is correct. Yes, there's I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there's a lot of education that's going to be

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Speaker 3: taking place. Yeah, that is That is correct.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 2: He's definitely definitely this. He's definitely somebled who's got quite

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Speaker 2: the resume. So sore. They're getting a U they're getting

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Speaker 2: one of the great professors and they don't even know

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Speaker 2: Begin just search two pros FSR and subscribe. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: this earlier you were at the Orange Bowl that yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: take it away.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'll say this, and I mentioned it before. I

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Speaker 3: think one of my biggest takeaways and in regards to

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Speaker 3: national championship that are still in it, and maybe what

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Speaker 3: went wrong for the teams that were in the playoff

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Speaker 3: that it didn't go well, I mean, first and foremost

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Speaker 3: to me, there's no, no, there's no more important position

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Speaker 3: counts with special teams of defense. However, I think even

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Speaker 3: you've seen that with Indiana this year and obviously Fernanda Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: At times he did with Baron Morton, but this was

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Speaker 3: not one of his best games. You know, he really struggled.

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Speaker 3: He went up against a team that's got the ability

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Speaker 3: very evident. I just I think that was unfortunately one

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Speaker 3: you got to give Dan Lanning his staff credit, their

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Speaker 3: It's a bad day, and I thought Oregon in every

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Speaker 3: capacity was the more physical team. But there's also an

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Speaker 3: Barry Morton struggled. You know in that game, he got injured.

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Speaker 3: You know, missed a period of time this year. And

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Speaker 3: But I think that's a big step for the program

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Speaker 3: what they're able accomplish. Went in the Big Twelve, you know,

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Speaker 3: getting a bye, being a you know, number four seed

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Speaker 3: team an Oregon that Jonas, to me feels more like

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Speaker 3: Ohio State last year, right, Like, didn't play in the

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Speaker 3: another dominant performance in the quarterfinal, like squarely looking for

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Speaker 3: revenge in that rematch versus Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looked like there's like it feels like

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Speaker 2: Dan Lanning the experience based on last year. And he's

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Speaker 2: been very vocal about just the scheduling. You know, look

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Speaker 2: at that this game should have been played at Loubic

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to go there, so on and so forth.

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Speaker 2: But he also talked afterwards about some ways to improve,

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Speaker 2: some ways to change, some things to get done in

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Speaker 3: What do you think of not having thing a first

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been a proponent for games to be

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Speaker 5: happening much quicker for a long time. I think that's

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Speaker 5: best for college football. Again, I felt like this game,

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Speaker 5: the Orange Bowl first off, was unbelievable. I should have,

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Speaker 5: you know, really gave him kudos to the Orange Bowl

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Speaker 5: because it's been a great experience. But it's not the

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Speaker 5: same bowl experience anymore when you talk about playoffs, right,

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Speaker 5: you know, our guys didn't leave the hotel. They had

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Speaker 5: a mindset, you know that we can celebrate when this

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Speaker 5: thing's all over with, and they were really focused.

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Speaker 3: But the hospitality here was unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: But we're trying to serve two different purposes here, and

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Speaker 5: this is a playoff. Playoff, in my opinion, should have

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Speaker 5: been played in Lubbock, Texas.

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Speaker 3: I said that before.

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Speaker 5: That's not because we wanted to go play in Lubbock.

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Speaker 3: I certainly didn't.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad we played here in Miami and it was

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Speaker 5: good prep for us. But you know, last year a

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Speaker 5: very similar situation for us. Feel like that game should

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Speaker 5: We're trying to serve two purposes here, and the amount

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Speaker 5: You know, we experienced it last year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I also

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Speaker 2: would say this being at the Orange Bowl last year

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Speaker 2: give credit to you and LeVar and your alma maters,

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Speaker 2: but being at the Orange Bowl last year felt a

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Speaker 2: little bit more significant than maybe the one yesterday that.

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Speaker 3: Was again but different circumstances, right, I mean, you had

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's after New Year. You're not dealing with

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Speaker 3: the holiday, especially a noon kick in Miami, which if

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't tell you how many people I

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Speaker 3: And we're not happy about it. I mean, they're the dog.

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Speaker 2: But by the way, did you just do yourself a favor?

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Speaker 2: Like if you go to X type in Dan Lanning

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Speaker 2: and just find out what the first word is afterwards.

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Speaker 2: All Right, No, Dan Lanning was not partying on South Beach.

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Speaker 2: He's just got a lot of energy. Okay, I'll put

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Speaker 2: it that way, Like people got to stop making reckless

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Speaker 3: I'm not even going to touch that. But but I'll

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Speaker 3: just I'll say this. I think it's tough for the

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was a much greater Texas Tech crowd

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Speaker 3: that was present for that game, and it was noticeable

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Speaker 3: the second half, Oregon distanced themselves. But if your Texas Tech,

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Speaker 3: like you know, outside of the Big Twelve Championship, you

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Speaker 3: didn't have a first round game, so this was that

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Speaker 3: moment to travel to it you don't know if your

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Speaker 3: a slight favorite to win, I got to prepare for

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Speaker 3: the playoff system in general right now with a lot

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Speaker 3: those tickets. I mean, geographically speaking, can we not take

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Speaker 3: Like maybe we don't need to just have set assignments,

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Speaker 3: Like maybe we sit there and say, would have it

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Speaker 3: not been better to have this game played in the

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Speaker 3: Rose Bowl between Texas Tech and Oregon, Like, wouldn't that

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Speaker 3: be a little better than having both teams have to

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Speaker 3: travel across the country? To South Florida. Like again, I'm

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Speaker 3: just throwing out ideas, because if a tendance is your

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Speaker 3: be an issue for the quarterfinal round. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I just think you're gonna have a hard time doing

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Speaker 3: it as the semi final round. Obviously it gets close

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Speaker 3: in for national championship, those aren't concerns. What's crazy to me, though,

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Speaker 3: on record in college football history that you could get

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Speaker 3: a team that plays for the national championship in their

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Speaker 3: just played your schedule and the associated press and teams

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Speaker 3: go to those days. So I'm not a historian, but

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Speaker 3: I would imagine if Miami makes a national championship game,

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Speaker 3: don't know that will ever be replicated outside of again,

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Speaker 3: potentially the Hurricanes if they can keep this thing on

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Speaker 2: Cash grab. Everything's a cash grab. And I also look

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Speaker 3: It's weird to have stripe on the ball, no stripes.

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 3: But come on, let's go. I would just generally say this,

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Speaker 2: All right. I got another uniform rule that we should implement.

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Speaker 2: all right, you can you can do it. Aluminum bats,

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Speaker 3: Someone's gonna die like those guys, the way they'd rip

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Speaker 2: The chance is what it is, all right, is what

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Speaker 2: Letting you know, like there's there's a way that we

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Speaker 2: No lead is safe, all right, everybody's wearing a bike

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Two days into the new year,

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Speaker 3: Two days in, I'm not advocating for aluminum bats. I

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Speaker 3: the record books too. It's like I'd rather see them

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Speaker 3: juicing up again with the wooden bats as opposed to

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Speaker 3: using the aluminum.

436
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Speaker 2: Batsy Patrick, keep this conversation for when we don't want

437
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Speaker 2: to talk NBA after football is over. Would you rather

438
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Speaker 2: have aluminum bats or steroids in baseball?

439
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Speaker 3: Take your pick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Noted? Right now, keep that up.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like I want my hitters to look

442
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Speaker 3: like Mark McGuire's forums, right, that is correct, and I'm

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Speaker 3: not making any claim he was or was I was saying,

444
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Speaker 3: I just want everyone to look absolutely jacked to the

445
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Speaker 3: gills when they stand up that plate holding well, it

446
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Speaker 3: looks to be a toothpick.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Correct. And if you see a paint can of Andro

449
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Speaker 2: and his locker, look the other way. Don't be so nosy,

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Speaker 2: all right, look And if.

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Speaker 3: You have an issue with me saying this right now,

452
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Speaker 3: that's the where I grew up in Okay. I was

453
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Speaker 3: born in the eighties. Love eighties music, love the nineties.

454
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Speaker 3: As far as the style of basketball they played back

455
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Speaker 3: then too, as I still think they should bring back

456
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Speaker 3: the physicality to the NBA. And I'd lived in an

457
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Speaker 3: era where you watch dudes who were absolutely jacked launched

458
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Speaker 3: that ball outside of stadiums and I missed.

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Speaker 2: Talking about I'm with you man again. Just fixed it

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Speaker 2: so easy, make us the commissioners. By the way, it

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Speaker 2: done yet again. Unfortunately they ran into a real problem

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Speaker 2: What Up?

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Speaker 6: What Up?

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Speaker 3: Brady? Happy New Year, Jonas, Yeah, I'll see you. I

500
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Speaker 3: hope you were able to joy all the games yesterday,

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Speaker 3: all the fest cities. I know you still worked in

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Speaker 3: this time slot. However, many many took some time off

503
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Speaker 3: just to watch a ball, hang with the family and friends.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're doing. So we actually was at one

505
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Speaker 3: of the games, so there was some boots on the

506
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Speaker 3: ground for the Orange Bowl, so that was a ton

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Speaker 3: of fun. But I'll I'll start off by asking this question,

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Speaker 3: how long do you get to say Happy New Year

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Speaker 3: to someone?

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty much it.

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Speaker 3: I think you should just say so after today. If

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Speaker 3: you say happy new to someone, you're a jerky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Basically, you were the main event of the Happy

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Speaker 2: New Year. And anybody that says it after you, they're

515
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Speaker 2: just they're a fraud. Like it's worn out, it's welcome,

516
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Speaker 2: we are done. You just said the last one, and

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Speaker 2: now you got to move on to twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: So you're not going to say Happy New Year to

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Speaker 3: LeVar when you see him on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: of course not. I didn't even say it to my wife. No,

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Speaker 2: please come on, No, that's not happening. Yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 2: You were the last one. So anybody that said just

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Speaker 2: you're put on. Notice. Anybody that says that the rest

525
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Speaker 2: of the day, you are a fraud. You're living a

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Speaker 2: lie and you are trying to carry on.

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Speaker 3: It is what.

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Speaker 2: I don't make these rules.

529
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Speaker 3: To do this. I don't make these January second, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six, and you can't have more of a rosy attitude.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Rosie, by the way, what about.

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Speaker 2: That Roles how about you. Look at you, mister Segway King,

533
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: look at you. Can I tell you, just because the

534
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: nuances of football you've forgotten more than ninety nine percent

535
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Speaker 2: of the planet. I'll just say this that there are

536
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Speaker 2: certain games where you watch and you don't need to

537
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Speaker 2: know the nuances. You don't need to know the fine details.

538
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Speaker 2: You can just look at it and it is completely

539
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Speaker 2: obvious to the untrained eye. Indiana is so much better

540
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Speaker 2: than Alabama. It's almost shocking. Like I was watching the

541
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Speaker 2: game going you know what reminded me of It reminded

542
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Speaker 2: me of when SEC teams in the early two thousands

543
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Speaker 2: or mid two thousands were playing other teams like that's

544
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Speaker 2: it like, it's almost like roles reversed, like those old

545
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Speaker 2: Florida teams with Mired, Like it was like roles reversed

546
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Speaker 2: to where you're watching and it looks like two different

547
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Speaker 2: levels of football.

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Speaker 3: I am look, I'm still shocked. I still keep thinking

549
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Speaker 3: that I'm like a sleep and I'm dreaming and I'm

550
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Speaker 3: watching a team that I mean, if you go back

551
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Speaker 3: to the Big Ten Championship, we always get these notes

552
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Speaker 3: before some of these games, and I believe Indiana was

553
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Speaker 3: the second most losing program in college football history, and

554
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Speaker 3: I keep taking that into account. I remember, like looking

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Speaker 3: at some of the notes of how Ohio State has

556
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Speaker 3: like the second most wins something like that, and the

557
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Speaker 3: difference between Ohio State and their program history of wins

558
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Speaker 3: and Indiana, that difference I think equated to we're almost

559
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Speaker 3: equated to the amount of wins that Indiana has that

560
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Speaker 3: in school history. So when we talk about what Kurt Signetti,

561
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Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza, the staff, the players, everyone involved, when we

562
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Speaker 3: talk about what they've done, not only last year, because

563
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Speaker 3: last year was kind of that moment where you're like, okay,

564
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Speaker 3: it feels like that Cinderella story, you know, where you're

565
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Speaker 3: dreaming and you're like, are you gonna wake up? As

566
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Speaker 3: this dream ever gonna good end? This year solidified the

567
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: foundation of what they did last year and what they're

568
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Speaker 3: doing this year. To me, it's the greatest turnaround in

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Speaker 3: sports history. Like I can't think of some people talked

570
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Speaker 3: about Kansas State. This is way beyond that. You throw

571
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Speaker 3: me out a professional sports franchise. That's a bigger turnaround

572
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Speaker 3: a team that was largely viewed as a doormat. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you. I visited there back when I

574
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Speaker 3: was in high school. A buddy, Adam Cadello, who's a linebacker,

575
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Speaker 3: who was looking to go there too, and we kind

576
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: of went on the visit and coach Donardo was there.

577
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Speaker 3: I loved Coach DeNardo is running a West Coast system.

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Speaker 3: But you got there and you looked at the home stadium,

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Speaker 3: you looked at facilities, and you're like, this is not

580
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Speaker 3: a football school. This is a basketball school. Man Like

581
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: coming off obviously on Bobby Knight and that you know,

582
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Speaker 3: growing up watching him when I was young being a

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Speaker 3: basketball player, I can't I still can't fathom what they've accomplished.

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Speaker 3: And what sticks out the most to me, Jonas is

585
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Speaker 3: being at the Big Ten championship game and big around

586
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 3: this team. When you see them up close, you know

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00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: they don't It looks like David and Goliath. Like I

588
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: know that reference gets thrown around a bunch, but when

589
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Speaker 3: you look at the sheer size of the players on

590
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: Indiana versus the Ohio States, the Alabama's the name you're

591
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Speaker 3: in Oregon for example, who they beat earlier this season.

592
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: When you look at them on the field versus one another,

593
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: you're going, yeah, I don't think they're gonna match up,

594
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: but they overcome that with the way they play as

595
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 3: a team. They seldom, if ever make mistakes. They're one

596
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 3: of the best technical teams you will ever find. I

597
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: think what stands out to me the most, too, is

598
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Speaker 3: even when they're putting positions where they have to win

599
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 3: a one one battle, they're either winning that one on

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Speaker 3: one matchup, I don't care if it's on the offensive line,

601
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Speaker 3: at wide receiver, at dB, or to stalemate. Like they

602
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: don't really lose, Like they just don't do the things

603
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: that other teams do that end up losing them football games.

604
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: And it's incredible to watch how they time and time

605
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: again end up being the more physical team end up

606
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: being the better team. And look, I was wrong. I

607
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: said I thought Bamba could keep it closed. I didn't

608
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Speaker 3: think they were gonna win necessarily because I don't think

609
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Speaker 3: I don't think BAM would even deserve to be in

610
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: the playoff for that matter. But that's another conversation. But

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Speaker 3: just from being down there and seeing those players, it's

612
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: incredible when you look at what the Upper against every week,

613
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: and it'll be that way again as they have a

614
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: rematch now versus Oregon again they will be outmatched by

615
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: as far as the eye test, the you know, looking

616
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: at both teams on the field before the game, but

617
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: they have constantly overachieved and this is a damn good

618
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: football team.

619
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Speaker 2: The hit on Tys Simpson where he was scrambling, which

620
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: was kind of a key moment in the game beause

621
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: he was going to pick up a first down. I

622
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: think it was ten to nothing at that point, and

623
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: it was like, all right, if they could get down

624
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: and get a score. You know, they get it to

625
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: one score and then you know there's some you know,

626
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: they start to feel good about things, and he just

627
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: gets lit and fumbles the ball and you just see

628
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: the look on his face and it looked like all

629
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: that's that's just a different level, Like they're playing. Indiana's

630
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: playing at a different level than we've seen before, and

631
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: it should I just come away from that, yeah, really impressed,

632
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: but shocked to see Alabama. I think the stat was

633
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: it's the first time Alabama's been held without a touchdown

634
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: in a bowl game since nineteen sixty. I mean, they

635
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: got clowned that wasn't closed yesterday, and Indiana just did

636
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: whatever they wanted to just whatever they wanted to all

637
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: game long, totally exposed him. It was really really impressive.

638
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: And look, you know, I think we can be critical

639
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: of some of Alabama. For example, I think on a

640
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: fourth and one running like a jet sweep, it's like, dude,

641
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: you're Alabama, Like you can't run the football like downhill

642
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: versus a team that you've got a i mean decisive

643
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: size advantage over on both sides of the ball. I mean,

644
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: I do feel like Ryan Grubb just gets too cute

645
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: sometimes with some of the things he does. And it

646
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: again credit to Indiana, you know, defensively, and we've talked

647
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: about this before and obviously Levar's not here today working

648
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: with us, but they do something that's like somewhat unique.

649
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: You don't hear you know, usually pre snap, a lot

650
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: of defensive players are assigned to a gap. They allowed

651
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: their defensive front to basically penetrate, you know, get upfield penetrate,

652
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: and they allow the backers to fit off of that.

653
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: And there's elements of that that take place on every level.

654
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: But when you watch them, it's so fluid. They never

655
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: feel like they're out of position, they never feel like

656
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: they're out of a gap, and they just work together.

657
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: They do all those little things that like you hear

658
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: in your top. And again, credit to Kurt Signetti and

659
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: credit to the staff. You know, his staff has been

660
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: with him for such a long period of time that

661
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: it just it feels like they have a sense in

662
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: every phase of how they want to play the game together,

663
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: Like the offense, defense, especially tams all working in unison.

664
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: And then they have a quarterback who you know, is

665
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: as efficient, is as accurate, is as tough and gritty

666
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: at times. I mean, Fernando Mendoz is not one of

667
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: the better athletes that's gonna be on the field, but

668
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: he finds a way to use his legs to extend

669
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: plays when something's not there. He finds a way of

670
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: you know, not creating a disaster of a play. He

671
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: gets upfield, he gets what he can it's positive yardage

672
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 3: or back to the line of scrimmage. You know, he

673
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: throws the football away. I just the entire group is

674
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: so impressive. And you know, of all the teams that

675
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: you look at and say, well everyone else, you know,

676
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: they they got to buy couldn't figure it out in

677
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: that quarterfinal round. Not the case for Indiana, Huh, Like

678
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: they're taking every narrative and they're throwing it out the window.

679
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: And I think the spin off of this conversation is

680
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: they're doing this at Indiana. This isn't a blue blood

681
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: like this is a program that again has been a

682
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: doormat in college football with a few exceptions throughout its

683
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: history besides the past two years since Kurt Signetty got there,

684
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: and they've turned it around to this and we can

685
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: look at other examples. We can look at Vanderbilt right

686
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: like we can. We can start saying, hey, there's as

687
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: much parity in college football as ever because of the

688
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: transfer portal, and now that's the level of the playing

689
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: field because of NIL and how some institutions and some

690
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: programs have been able to benefit from that and help

691
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: them to create, you know, more Perry and their roster

692
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: and some of their their top line players. That's part

693
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: of it too, But it puts a lot of other

694
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: coaches on notice, like if those if those programs have

695
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: the money to buy out those coaches, he'll do it.

696
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: And those guys are feeling they're feeling like they're on

697
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: the hot seat right now. And the programs that aren't

698
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: buying those coaches out probably because they don't have the money.

699
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: That's a tough spot to be in. But Indiana doing

700
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: what they've done to me, I don't know if you

701
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: agree with this, but I think it's the greatest turnaround

702
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: in sports, like not just college football, in sports, with

703
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: what they've been able to do thus far. And if

704
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: if they wouldn't all it only adds to it. But

705
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: even just getting to this point, it's incredible now.

706
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti afterwards was on with Rhees Davis on the

707
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: stage after the Rose Bowl and you know, was asked

708
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: about the movie Hoo's Yours, but he made sure to

709
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: let people know there's a rallying cry there in Bloomington.

710
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Who would start turk Signetti in the movie.

711
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: I don't know about that one, But there'd been a lot.

712
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 8: There'd been a big chest to characters because it's all

713
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 8: about people. You gotta have the right people on your staff,

714
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 8: the right guys in the locker room. And we've been

715
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 8: very fortunate and these guys buy in. They all think alike,

716
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 8: they play like we want them to play. There's been

717
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 8: a lot of first it is kind of surreal, there's

718
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 8: no doubt about it.

719
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: I understand why there's.

720
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 8: Been a lot of skeptics, but I only have one

721
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 8: thing to say, perfectly.

722
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Said, perfect gratulations.

723
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 3: Champ Man. I'm telling and I don't say this much.

724
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: I was obviously down at the Orange Bowl yesterday and

725
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: there before the Oregon Texas Tech game, and there was

726
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: Indiana fans there, Like there was people who dressed up

727
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: New Year's that are celebrating it in South Florida and

728
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: just wanted to come to the game. And I guess

729
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: they're just waiting to keep moving along with Indiana as

730
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: they go through the playoff. But they have a fan

731
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: base that is crazy about what this team has accomplished.

732
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: And there's that saying like, act like you've been there before. Well, look,

733
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: let's give Indiana fans, uh, you know, a little room

734
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 3: for air here because they have like this is a first.

735
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: They've never been here before, so they don't know how

736
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: to act about it. So I'm okay with them wild'ing

737
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: out right now. When you see those Indiana fans who

738
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: are excited about what their team's done. Look, I know

739
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: it's it's way too early to start talking dynasties and

740
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: all that stuff with the the end they haven't won

741
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: one yet, but I'm just saying in the sense of

742
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: because you pointed out, you know, we're getting to like

743
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 3: they've never done anything close to this before, like when

744
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: we grew up, you know, the Jordan Bulls. You know,

745
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: that was like the team, Like everybody loved the Jordan Bulls,

746
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: but there was a long time before that where they

747
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 3: were awful, like like they were, and so it's hard

748
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: to imagine in the moment like oh really the but

749
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: you we were sort of there in the embryotic stages

750
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: of them developing into this great team and and and

751
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the history of the team completely changed.

752
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 3: And it almost feels like we're getting to live in

753
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: the moment of the beginning stages of maybe another powerhouse.

754
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: And it's kind of cool to watch because, yeah, the

755
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: history of it, they've been so bad for some like

756
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: the were so bad for so long, and yet here

757
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: they are and it's two years in a row and

758
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: they're dominating great programs like Alabama. I think it's a

759
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: cool opportunity to see something from the beginning stages because look,

760
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: there's a lot of you know, and you mentioned and

761
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: I've talked about this before when you walk through the

762
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: you know, the Boston. It was at Logan Airport in Boston.

763
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 3: They've got all the championship flags there. You're in laws.

764
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: But there was a long time before the Patriots went

765
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: on that dynasty. They were terrible, terrible, Like a lot

766
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: of Patriots fans remember that. And there's a you know,

767
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: a group of Patriots fans now that look around and go,

768
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: all I know, for the most part is success, and

769
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: they're back and maybe potentially going to make a deep

770
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: run and maybe have the MVP of the league this year.

771
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: I think Indiana is in the beginning stages of all this,

772
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: and I think it's really cool to watch because we'll

773
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: be able to if this goes the way that it's

774
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: gone the first two years with Signetti, we'll be able

775
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: to tell people years down the road, oh, you guys

776
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: have no idea what this was like beforehand, Like enjoy it. Yeah,

777
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: they're popping up left and right. And maybe there's some

778
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: in CTI fans that are that are jumping around and

779
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: you know, bringing out all their old Indiana stuff. But

780
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: I just think it illustrate rates how desolate things were

781
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: there for Indiana for so long, to where yeah, it

782
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: was a basketball school and Kurt Signetti's got him rolling. Man,

783
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: It's fine.

784
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: Well, and that's where even like because I was talking

785
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: with my in laws about this, because I said, you know,

786
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 3: even before the Patriots went on the round with the Belichick,

787
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: like they'd been to a super Bowl with Parcels and

788
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: what Tony Easton at quarterback, you know, they experienced like

789
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 3: some level of getting to the championship before, like really

790
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: the greatness occurred there. There's nothing like this, No, like

791
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: there's been nothing. I mean, Tom Allen had a nine

792
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: to ten one year whatever it was or somewhere in

793
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: that ballpark. We was competitive in Indiana and hell it

794
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: might have been that shit in the COVID year now

795
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: that I think about it, when Michael Pennix was there

796
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: and they kind of competed within the big ten. But

797
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: they've never really been able to replicate anything of what

798
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: they've done these past two years. It's why I keep

799
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: kind of going back to I can't think of another

800
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: really program that has struggled to the degree that Indiana

801
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 3: has and has now done this. And I think, look again,

802
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: and we're only at the semi final portion of the

803
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: of the playoff or the tournament. But the hard thing

804
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: is they're gonna have to start over again at quarterback.

805
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: Now his brother, Fernando's brother, Alberto I believe is his

806
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: first name. He's there as the backup. So I would

807
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: assume that might be a guy that looking at or

808
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 3: maybe Signetti wants to go back to the Portal again

809
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: because they've they've kind of lived off of two things,

810
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 3: and that's some of the players he brought from James

811
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 3: Madison with him, but also from Portal players that he's

812
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: you know, has transferred in very similar to Fernanda Mendoza

813
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: coming from cal So, you know, in one way, that's

814
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 3: one of the things that's allowed them to be able

815
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: to go on this run and build their roster the

816
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: way they have, and the other, you know, part of

817
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: that is there's gonna be times where you miss. And

818
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: so that's why when you talk about even like mentioning dynasty,

819
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: like dude, this is so hard to do, and especially

820
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: the way they have done it in some ways early on,

821
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: because there's so much roster turnover and there will be

822
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: like this is a team that has players are gonna

823
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 3: get drafted, like there will be the most player from

824
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: this roster drafted in Indiana history. And I don't know

825
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: that it's gonna be close. So replacing Mendoza, replacing some

826
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: of these players, you're going to lose, and then trying

827
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: to come back and do it again. That's the tough part.

828
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: But it feels like Signetti has And when you talk

829
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: to his staff and you talk to like what would

830
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: be the equivalent of their front office folks in their

831
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: scouting department, you know those guys say, you know, he

832
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: sits down with all these players and he's very very

833
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: diligent with how he does film and always cut ups

834
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: and different things he does. He's like, so he sees

835
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: the player, he knows the player, what they're capable of.

836
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: But the secret is he talks to them and he

837
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: interviews them, and from that singular meeting, when they walk

838
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: out of the room their scouting department, he'll kind of

839
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: give a nod of yes or no. And to the

840
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: point of what he said postgame about all these guys

841
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: buying in, all these guys are on the same page.

842
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: There is some conversation that occurs, and whatever is said

843
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: back to him, he's able to discern whether or not

844
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: that person is the right fit. Wow, And I think

845
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest things that stands out to

846
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: me about just what they've accomplished is, Dude, it's a

847
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: bunch of I don't want to say castaways or misfits

848
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 3: as they've described themselves, but I look at a guy

849
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: like Pat Coogan. He was at Notre Dame. He was

850
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: there somewhat in a backup role, but then he got

851
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 3: thrust it into a starting role. Was phenomenal at Notre Dame.

852
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: But he's not there anymore, in part because he wasn't

853
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: going to start this upcoming season, so he transfers to

854
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: Indiana and now he's a part of the team that's

855
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: playing in the semi final, potentially for a national championship.

856
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 3: And you look at like a player like that, for example,

857
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: he obviously has a certain makeup, of a certain building

858
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: and a huge chip on his shoulder. And I think

859
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: that's what Kurt Signetti has really found in a lot

860
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: of these players, is at one point they were told

861
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: they weren't big enough, they weren't fast enough, they weren't

862
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Speaker 3: good enough, they weren't smart enough. And he's found an

863
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Speaker 3: edge and he's found a way to use them in

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Speaker 3: the right way where they fit. And I think it's

865
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Speaker 3: a lesson for like dude life or like a lot

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Speaker 3: of people maybe might be listening who are in a

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Speaker 3: job that they're not they don't feel appreciated in, or

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Speaker 3: they'll feel like they're maximized in. Like man, you can

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Speaker 3: be passionate as you want about something, but you also

870
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Speaker 3: have to be in the right place and the right

871
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Speaker 3: fit for what that place is looking for. And that's

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Speaker 3: one where Indiana's like the case study for that right now,

873
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Speaker 3: because it feels like every single person that walks in

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Speaker 3: that program and he brings on his team and he

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Speaker 3: decides to coach and develop, it just seems like the

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Speaker 3: right fit and they're fit for one another.

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Speaker 2: If you go to Sports Reference and you just look

878
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Speaker 2: up Indiana, just look up the school history. God, they've

879
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Speaker 2: had some bad years. Whoa like these and you pointed

880
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: this out it's the first time. The first time they

881
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: ever won double digit games in a season was last year.

882
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: Like just it's crazy in the history of the program.

883
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Speaker 2: And it's not like they just got here, you know,

884
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Speaker 2: twenty minutes ago, or it's uk that's been.

885
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: Around football for a long time. Stadium the other statement.

886
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Speaker 2: Looks like it one hundred and twenty seven years of

887
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Speaker 2: Indiana football and we're finally here, so so good for them.

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944
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Speaker 2: at Albert Breer. He is the pride of Ohio State.

945
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Speaker 2: Do we have Albert with us?

946
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Speaker 3: Do we have him?

947
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I uh yeah, what truth? I don't know what truth

949
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 9: there is to hash out here.

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Speaker 4: I think we all saw what happened the other night.

951
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: So I hey, Albert, at what point did you start

952
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: betting the elbow after watching that performance?

953
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 6: That was a tough one. Bra I will say, I

954
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 6: can't see accused of about being the mush because.

955
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: I was not in the building for that one.

956
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, I was.

957
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 9: A rough first half and you know, we couldn't get

958
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 9: it going quite enough and speed it up quite enough

959
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 9: there in the second half. So I mean credit to Miami.

960
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 9: Like those those monsters they have up front on either

961
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 9: his side, you know, had their way when they need to.

962
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 4: That's the way early in the game.

963
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 6: And you know, we got control for a little while,

964
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Speaker 6: and then at the end of the game they wind up,

965
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 6: you know, finding.

966
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 4: Sort of their second win and that was that.

967
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Speaker 9: So yeah, it's pretty wild. But I'm not I'm not

968
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 9: the only one on here with an Alma miner who

969
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 9: lost to Miami this year.

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00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: Right, Oh geez, that's right. Over the differences, some of

971
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: us think that maybe notre names should have been in

972
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: the playoff because they would have performed better than Ohio State.

973
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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, well, I mean like everybody's got.

974
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Speaker 3: To I mean, we did see both teams playoff are

975
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Speaker 3: just having to be in their home stadium week one,

976
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Speaker 3: and it was a pretty tight game for a team

977
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Speaker 3: that presumably got betters this season went on. I guess

978
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Speaker 3: that's the That's where I'll go with you next, is

979
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Speaker 3: what happened to Ohio State since their win over Michigan.

980
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: I feel like offensively just they never really could figure

981
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: it out running the football, but also just the pass

982
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 3: game too really struggled.

983
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd say, like there's a million things that were

984
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 9: kind of going through my head on that. I mean,

985
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 9: I think like the offensive line, they were managing an

986
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Speaker 9: issue at right guard I think all year and you know,

987
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 9: I don't know how much they were challenged in that area,

988
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 9: but it really blew up on them, you know, early

989
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Speaker 9: in this game.

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Speaker 6: And you know, then I think the left tackle, you know,

991
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 6: from what I understand, was hurt, but like I don't

992
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 6: think he's playing very well anyway. And so then they

993
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 6: go they go to backups to both those spots in

994
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 6: the second half, which is I think it is go'd

995
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Speaker 6: be extremely.

996
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 9: Rare to change out two offensive linemen in that sort

997
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 9: of game at halftime and it's stabilized. I honestly think Brady, like,

998
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 9: I think, what when you look back at last year, right,

999
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 9: and how they went from this slow moving offense into

1000
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 9: like this breakneck attack at all angles forced them to

1001
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 9: defend every blade of grass type offense in the playoffs, you.

1002
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 6: Know, Like I think we all kind of had in

1003
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 6: her head that they.

1004
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 9: Were going to be able to flip that switch again,

1005
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 9: and then they fall behind these games and she said

1006
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 9: they didn't.

1007
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: Have it, you know.

1008
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 9: I mean I would say this, like even in the

1009
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 9: third quarter, right, like that first drive, they marched down

1010
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 9: the field and score, But the whole time, I'm.

1011
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 6: Thinking to myself, why are they going so slow?

1012
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 9: You know what, I mean, they're down two scores? Like

1013
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 9: why why aren't you.

1014
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 6: Picking up the pace a little?

1015
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: Like don't you want to maximize the amount of times

1016
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: that you're going to have the ball here? And maybe

1017
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 4: it was.

1018
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 6: To give their defense a blow or take some snaps

1019
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 6: off of them.

1020
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Speaker 9: I don't know, but you know, I just didn't look

1021
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 9: like that gear that they had last year existed the

1022
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 9: same way I think the defense is mostly final.

1023
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: Though give Miami's offensive line credit.

1024
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 9: Like they got them in second and six and third

1025
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 9: and two a lot.

1026
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 6: You know, and as you know better than me, like

1027
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 6: that can be.

1028
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 4: That can be the ballgame, and I think it kind

1029
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: of was.

1030
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: The other night, all right, So this does put to

1031
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: test the theory. And we're talking about this and the

1032
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: feeling last year you didn't beat Michigan, but you won

1033
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: the national team.

1034
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: I have thought about this before.

1035
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: We're going, Okay, so which which postseason feels better for you?

1036
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: This year or last year?

1037
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: Last year? Any won the Natty?

1038
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 6: I mean, like I've heard that question before. It sucks

1039
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 6: that the you know, losing to Michigan. I'm not gonna

1040
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 6: lie about that.

1041
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 9: Brady saw me suffer through that live and in living color.

1042
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: But I actually drew attention to you suffering.

1043
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Brady, Brady. Brady, Brady made my suffering a

1044
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 9: national story. So I appreciate that.

1045
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: Brady, Yeah, I missed that similar to someone, but I

1046
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: didn't point out to your section too, that you're the

1047
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: bad you're the most you're the bad luck, which most

1048
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: people started to turn on you. There are some different

1049
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 3: epithets and things thrown out your way. I wasn't.

1050
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 9: I can't, but yeah, I mean Brady Brady may or

1051
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 9: may not have gotten one of the professor the professional

1052
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 9: photographers that Fox employees to take a picture of me.

1053
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1054
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 9: I may or may not have happened, but uh but

1055
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 9: but yeah, like I I uh, I like that was

1056
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 9: honestly like I as much as that sucks, like the

1057
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 9: run of the championship was incredible last year, and I

1058
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 9: loved the rivalry. It's you know, I've got family on

1059
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 9: on the other side of it. I got a lot

1060
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 9: of friends.

1061
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 6: On both sides of it, and it's is like one

1062
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 6: of the most.

1063
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Speaker 4: Important days of the year is childs Is that sounds

1064
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 4: for me?

1065
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 6: So I uh, you know, I I respect.

1066
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: The rivalry like you wouldn't believe.

1067
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 9: But you know, I would take the Natty over beating

1068
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 9: Michigan for sure, and I'm sure it will be the

1069
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 9: same thing for them.

1070
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Speaker 2: You know, Albert, have you seen a We're catching up

1071
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: with Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at

1072
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: the m m QB here on Fox Sports Radio, But

1073
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: have you seen an NFL comp to what is happening

1074
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: in Indiana.

1075
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

1076
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 6: Like maybe the Rams with McVeigh.

1077
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 4: Would that be the closest one?

1078
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: Like a five hundred team though when Fish was there.

1079
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, the last by the way, they had had.

1080
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 3: The greatest show on turf in their history.

1081
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, God, like who would that be?

1082
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: I don't think there is one.

1083
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 9: Jackie Parcels Barcells brought the Patriots to respectability before Belichick

1084
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 9: was there.

1085
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1086
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: I don't think there is one.

1087
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 6: Mcvay's have one to popped in my head. I mean

1088
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 6: McVay popped in my head just because they were so bad, you.

1089
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, like.

1090
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 9: The year like like the year before he got there,

1091
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 9: like they really kind of collapsed. But I mean Brady's

1092
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 9: right like they were. They were close to five hundred

1093
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 9: with Jeff Fisher and you know, like I think turning

1094
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 9: around golf was eye opening because golf was not good

1095
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 9: as a rookie, you know.

1096
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: Like, so you have that maybe the Lions, the Lions

1097
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: would be the closest thing.

1098
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 4: I think that's probably fair. The Lions thing.

1099
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: Browns fans would have something to say. The difference is

1100
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: the Browns before the merger and like deep into the

1101
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: history of their organization have had success. It's just been

1102
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: a long time, like and no point has Indiana ever

1103
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: had success play football, at least not to the magnitu

1104
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: these two years.

1105
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 9: Right, I mean, and that's the thing, like college versus

1106
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 9: pro Like, that's sort of the difference, like is that

1107
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 9: you don't have Like it's because like college is sort

1108
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 9: of set up for there to be established towers and

1109
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 9: then they're to be teams they are for there to

1110
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 9: be teams that are sort of in the bottom half

1111
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 9: of their conference perpetually, Like the NFL has set up

1112
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 9: the you know, for the best teams to rise to

1113
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 9: the top, the worst team so eventually rise back to

1114
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 9: the top, and then for the best teams to come

1115
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 9: back to earth.

1116
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 6: So I can't think of one. I mean, What'sittingett.

1117
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 4: He's done.

1118
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 6: I said this on Twitter yesterday. It is the best

1119
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 6: coaching I think.

1120
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 9: Maybe the best person you have I've ever seen any

1121
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 9: sport in my lifetime.

1122
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

1123
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's literally what I said earlier today, Like,

1124
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 3: I can't think of another example, and I'm sure someone

1125
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: else might have one out there, so tweeted us or something.

1126
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 3: But I want to transition the NFL U what is

1127
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: there all this to do with Lamar Jackson and every

1128
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: thing else? Like he's going to play in this game.

1129
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: There as a speculation that he wouldn't. I mean, Harball's

1130
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 3: had to kind of talk about it. It's become a

1131
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: story because the story was put out there, Like what

1132
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: do you make of all this?

1133
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 6: I think it's like, you know, I think this is

1134
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 6: sort of an insight baseball thing, Brady. But you know,

1135
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 6: I would say like this has sort.

1136
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 9: Of been like the the awkwardness of the whole relationship

1137
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 9: going back to the first contract negotiation, and I think

1138
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 9: so much of it stems from him not having an agent,

1139
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 9: because it doesn't just you have to follow me here.

1140
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 9: But it doesn't just affect the contract. It can make

1141
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 9: things awkward with the contract because you've got to say

1142
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 9: things in contract negotiations that wind up affecting things big

1143
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 9: picture wise.

1144
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 6: I think John Harvey has always been able to navigate

1145
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 6: that time.

1146
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1147
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 6: I think one of the things that that that that

1148
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 6: that it does seem to like create like and has

1149
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 6: created over the years, is when this guy is hurt,

1150
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 6: there there really isn't like someone out there giving clarity

1151
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 6: explaining where he's at and you know, like that's a

1152
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 6: part of like all of this that happens with most players.

1153
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 4: As I'm sure you guys.

1154
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 6: Know, there's like ninety percent.

1155
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 9: Of the time when you're seeing detailed injury information get

1156
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 9: out there, it's coming by the agent.

1157
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: Well why would the agent do that?

1158
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 9: The agent would do that, So everyone knows that, Like, look,

1159
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 9: my guy's trying to be out there, wants to be

1160
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 9: out there. Here's what he's dealing with, Here's what he's

1161
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,479
Speaker 9: had to deal with. Like this isn't you know, it's

1162
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 9: protecting the reputation of the player.

1163
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 4: And Lamar hasn't really.

1164
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 9: Had somebody to do that, and I don't think because

1165
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 9: of who he is, like like he doesn't care what

1166
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 9: people think, so he isn't doing that publicly.

1167
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 6: And so if you noticed earlier in the week, but

1168
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 6: John Harbulgy more detailed injury information on Lamar than I've

1169
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 6: ever heard him give on anybody, you know, in eighteen

1170
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 6: years of covering him as a head coach, you know.

1171
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 6: And so I think that that was sort of an

1172
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 6: all apprentich to Lamar.

1173
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 4: But certainly these are all.

1174
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 9: Questions, you know, like his his you know, his injury history,

1175
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 9: you know is is now relatively sensitive.

1176
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 4: His workload is historic.

1177
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 9: No quarterback has ever taken on a sort of workload

1178
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 9: that he has in the run game.

1179
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 6: And you know, if every time he gets hurt, now,

1180
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 6: the bigger picture questions.

1181
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 9: Are going to be answered, going to be asked about,

1182
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 9: like is this where he breaks down? And that's gonna,

1183
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 9: you know, you know, sensibly affect the way that you

1184
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 9: handle content negotiations if you're the Ravens. So I don't

1185
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 9: think there's anything nefarious here. I think it's more just

1186
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 9: the awkward, unique setup of how things have been there

1187
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 9: and how things are and they've been able to navigate

1188
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 9: it for so many years. I think he'll play on Sunday.

1189
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 9: I think he'll play well on Sunday. But you know,

1190
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 9: those big picture questions, I think.

1191
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 4: It still exist.

1192
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: Albert who if anybody is coaching for their job this

1193
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: weekend in the NFL to where look, I mean Arthur

1194
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: Smith was.

1195
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: In here, go one way or the other?

1196
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: You yeah, because I remember back to Arthur Smith with

1197
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: the Falcons and it was like it seemed like he

1198
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: was safe and then the final two weeks of the

1199
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 2: season it just fell hard and they ended up moving

1200
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: on but you look at this week, Judge would be another.

1201
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: One YoY right giants all right?

1202
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 9: So, like I think Miami's a coin toss right now,

1203
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 9: I would say, have a list in front of me

1204
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 9: so I can take it through home.

1205
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 4: But Miami, I think is a coin toss right now.

1206
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 9: They've brought in Troy to consult with them, and you know,

1207
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 9: I do think that the ownership there really likes Mike

1208
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 9: McDaniel and wants to go forward with Mike McDaniel.

1209
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: But a lot of that's going to kind of depend

1210
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: on how they are coming out, how they are coming

1211
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 4: out of the season.

1212
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 9: When they do a full assessment Cleveland, I'd expect that

1213
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 9: they're going to sit down Sunday night Monday to hash

1214
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 9: all of that out where they're at. You know, I

1215
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 9: know they've discussed the restructure. I don't know how likely

1216
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 9: that is, you know. And then I think that there's

1217
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 9: probably a two way conversation that with Kevin Stefanski on

1218
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 9: his appetite to keep going Indianapolis has come up the

1219
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 9: last couple of weeks. I don't know that they'll make change,

1220
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 9: but they are a little bit of a wild card

1221
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 9: because je Mercedes daughter is now in charge and so

1222
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 9: she doesn't really have track director yet one way or

1223
00:56:59,560 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 9: the other.

1224
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: So we'll see where that goes. Vegas.

1225
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 9: I think the Raiders will make a change, and I

1226
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 9: think Pete Carroll will be gone, and I think you

1227
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 9: hear a lot about Tom Brady's involvement in the organization

1228
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 9: going forward from here.

1229
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 4: You know, Atlanta like they've won a bunch of games

1230
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: in a row. Now what do they do?

1231
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 9: I think that's a you know, an open question now.

1232
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 9: And I think Raheem Moore has helped himself the last

1233
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 9: few weeks, but they have a consulting firm in there.

1234
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 9: Matt Ryan is going to be involved.

1235
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: At some level.

1236
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 6: I've heard it could be like a Chris Steelman type

1237
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 6: of role. And I think there'll be some level of change.

1238
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 6: But I think Raheem has.

1239
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 9: Got a better shot now or to survive potentially than

1240
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 9: the general manager there, Terry Fontina has. And I think

1241
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 9: Arizona will have some change as well, but I don't

1242
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 9: think it'll be total change. So could I see like

1243
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 9: the GM staying and the head coach going possibly. I

1244
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 9: know they like both guys, you know, if they try

1245
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 9: to push change on Jonathan Gannon will gann and go down.

1246
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: With the ship.

1247
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 9: I think those are some questions you can ask there

1248
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 9: and then you know, get in Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo.

1249
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: Like those situations. I think at least their.

1250
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 9: Watch you know, could Mike, tom and walk Away do

1251
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 9: TV for a year. Buffalo has an early Axit has

1252
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 9: that affect things. I think those are those are situations

1253
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 9: where I'll be watching as well. Camp is another one

1254
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 9: where I think Tampa's you know, I don't think they're

1255
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 9: out of the woods.

1256
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: That they lose tomorrow. It'll be interesting to see the

1257
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: way that they handle all that.

1258
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the NFC South, the gift that just keeps on

1259
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: giving a team can be what won in their last

1260
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 3: eight games they've played, I think they've won once and

1261
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 3: they're still in the hunt for the playoffs in the division.

1262
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 3: I want to ask you, if you had an m

1263
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: DP vote today, who would be for.

1264
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 6: So I do have one, which means I can't tell you.

1265
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: I know, I just tell us who he plays for.

1266
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, if I gave you the conference, that would

1267
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 9: give it away. I think at this point, right, I think,

1268
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 9: I honestly think like I think Drake, let me.

1269
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: This your votes down to two guys. Is it fair

1270
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: to say that.

1271
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 6: I would be going to the final weekend you did?

1272
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 9: If you're speaking conceptually, like I think that there are

1273
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 9: two front runners.

1274
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then let's just kind of pick around on

1275
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: the littleness. Do you uh you know, are you more

1276
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 3: impressed by someone who's doing it at an older age

1277
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: or a younger age?

1278
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: I'm kind of neutral on that.

1279
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: Okay's well, what about a guy who uh you know

1280
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: plays in what could perceive to be a tougher division.

1281
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that that's all a matter of opinion, right,

1282
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 6: isn't it?

1283
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 3: Like we know, it's factual. The NFC West is much

1284
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: tougher than the AFC.

1285
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: I was I was going to go I was going

1286
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: to go Ohio State alum. So I was thinking Jackson

1287
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba and Justin Fields, like I wasn't sure

1288
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 2: if those were the two. Yeah, I don't know like that.

1289
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: I was just thinking Ohio State guys.

1290
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1291
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 9: I actolutely think a number of guys have it, like

1292
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 9: I think beyond the two obvious ones, I do think

1293
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 9: like a number of guys have a case like I. Okay,

1294
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 9: Christ McCaffrey, Allen, Josh All Josh Allenson, a lot, Christian McCaffrey's,

1295
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 9: and a lot justin Herbert As.

1296
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Jeohn Robinson should be a part of it

1297
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: if you just live with the stats.

1298
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 9: John Robinson's had a dynam my year. Now, do you

1299
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 9: give it to a running back who's going to miss

1300
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 9: the playoffs?

1301
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1302
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: Probably not right, No, But like I don't know that

1303
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 3: that's the way we should be looking at it. But yeah,

1304
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: I realized that's part of the equation.

1305
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean mc daffrey's got a good case.

1306
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 9: Like you look at McCaffrey like he's the one constant, right,

1307
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 9: Like so like Days had to play without Frederick Warner

1308
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 9: and Nick Bosa for most.

1309
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 6: Of the year, they were without brock Party for a

1310
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 6: chunk of the year, they were without you know, they

1311
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 6: were without Deebo Samuel this year, without Brandon Ayuk this year.

1312
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: That's the top two receivers from last year. Kittle, this's

1313
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: a lot of time.

1314
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 9: Like, but Jaffrey's case to me is pretty good based

1315
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 9: on just the amount of moving parts around him and

1316
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 9: how they won twelve games, and.

1317
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: He's the one constant.

1318
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 3: And Albert jonas Is pointed this out, especially not getting

1319
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: distracted with off the field stuff. You know when you

1320
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: think about what he goes onto every.

1321
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: Time listen Christmas, every single day of the year, you

1322
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, I'm just saying, man, certain

1323
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: people got it and certain people don't.

1324
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 6: I did want to ask that you've got something Instagram God.

1325
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: Some deep digging. I mean, You've never seen so much

1326
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: preparation put into this.

1327
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: Hey Albert, Hey Albert, I've got the the All twenty

1328
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: two if you need it, So I'll just anytime you

1329
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: want to just let me know. I what's gonna I

1330
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna ask you this though. The hell's going on

1331
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: with Max Crosby. I mean, this is the like, this

1332
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: is so blatant and at is the NFL gonna step

1333
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: in or are they gonna be like, what are you doing?

1334
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: The guy wants to play? Or is this just he's

1335
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: being vocal and he is more banged up than he

1336
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: has to acknowledge. And and that's where we're at with this.

1337
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 9: I mean, I think for Max is the pride thing,

1338
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 9: you know, Like I think you know it's it's tough man.

1339
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 9: Like he has been on team hasn't been very good.

1340
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 6: He's made the playoffs once since he came into the

1341
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 6: league in twenty nineteen.

1342
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: This is his seventh year. He's twenty eight years old.

1343
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: They haven't been in intention much and so what does

1344
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 4: he have, Like, you know, he watched the.

1345
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 9: Show that he can play full seasons and still be

1346
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 9: the same guy and you know, sack totals and Defensive

1347
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 9: Player of the Year runs and all that different stuff.

1348
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 9: It's like sort of what he's left to play for,

1349
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 9: you know. And I don't think that he liked having

1350
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 9: a decision taken out of his hand that said, this

1351
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 9: is something that he's dealt with since October, you know,

1352
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 9: and it's gotten worse over the course of time. There

1353
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 9: was never any dispute that he was going to need

1354
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 9: surgery to fix it at some point, and he will

1355
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 9: need surgery to fix it after the season, which you.

1356
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: Know he'll now have.

1357
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 9: And basically what happened was they felt like his player

1358
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 9: fell off the last few weeks. So on Tuesday of

1359
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 9: last week, they took they had him coming and do

1360
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 9: a scan.

1361
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: They felt like at that.

1362
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 9: Point that the damage was significant enough they told him

1363
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 9: that they were going to.

1364
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: Shut him down.

1365
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 9: He went and got second opinions from two outside doctors

1366
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 9: who are really respected guys.

1367
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 4: Both said that if he could.

1368
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 6: Manage the pain, that he can go ahead.

1369
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 9: And play, and so that's where the disagreement was, you know,

1370
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 9: And I know, like listen, like he's suspicious of like

1371
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 9: what's going on here too.

1372
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1373
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 9: Like, so it's not just us, Like I think he

1374
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 9: has his desicions over over the.

1375
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 4: Reason for sitting down, but you know, clearly, I.

1376
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 9: Think it's like kind of created a little bit of

1377
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 9: a divide between between Max and the organization, between Max

1378
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 9: and potentially Tom Brady. And this to me is as

1379
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 9: close as we've come to MaTx potentially asking for a

1380
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 9: trade that hasn't happened yet, but I think it's certainly.

1381
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 4: Something that will be keeping an eye on in February

1382
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 4: and March.

1383
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. Tom Brady is a pretty persuasive guy,

1384
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 3: so I'm sure he's don't talk to him to calm

1385
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: down some of that. Speaking of just another player, maybe

1386
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: there's something going on with the organization. Joe Burrow, we've

1387
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: heard him talk about Miles Garrett the sack record to

1388
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 3: be sacked or to not be sacked. That's not really

1389
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 3: where I want to go with this, though, because he's

1390
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 3: talked about the Bengals playoffs rout, He's talked about things

1391
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: needing to change. I mean, it feels like it's been

1392
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 3: a long, longest season for Bengals fans, considering at one

1393
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 3: point Joe Flacco was their starter who actually started the

1394
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: season in Cleveland. Like, it's just been a lot Bengals fans,

1395
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: but for Joe Burrow too, anything to keep an eye

1396
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: on the off seasons. We approached their last game of

1397
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: the season.

1398
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think he's there yet, you know, but

1399
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 9: I think we're I think everybody's at the radar up

1400
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 9: for you know, eventually something because I looked like cold

1401
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 9: just become Matthew.

1402
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: Stafford in Detroit.

1403
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 9: The Bengals themselves have history with something like that with

1404
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 9: Carson Palmer.

1405
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 4: What was it in twenty ten?

1406
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 6: I think so, like I think, you know, like this

1407
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 6: is I think it's good.

1408
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 4: I think it's fine now.

1409
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 9: I think, you know, for twenty twenty six, he'll be

1410
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 9: locked in, you know, but that's not a forever thing,

1411
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, Like they you know, he wants,

1412
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 9: he badly wants to compete for championships. He was in

1413
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 9: the AFT title game after a second year, after a

1414
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 9: third year, made a super Bowl, And you know, I

1415
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 9: think he understands and appreciates the fact that he'll be

1416
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 9: judged strong wins and losses as a quarterback, you know so,

1417
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 9: And that's why I think he's taking such an active

1418
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 9: role in trying to be a change agent in the organization.

1419
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 6: I mean, i'd say, even.

1420
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 9: Like the little things like getting an indoor facility built,

1421
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 9: which was a little bit absurd that they didn't have one,

1422
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 9: But getting an indoor facility built, if Cincinnati was was

1423
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 9: part partly because of his presence and the pressure that

1424
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 9: he put on them to modernize, thinks.

1425
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 3: But I know, I wish you understood how many times

1426
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: I've called the organization cheap and Bengals fans are irate

1427
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: with me, and I'm like, dude, you didn't even fly

1428
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: in some of your former greats for somebody's like ring

1429
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: of honor inductions, like you're you're mad at me for

1430
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: telling the truth.

1431
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, by the way, Albert, is it true

1432
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: that Joe Burrows the reason they have running water too

1433
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: in the building or.

1434
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 6: Well he had helped them he I mean, look, but

1435
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 6: he did push to have ja Marches.

1436
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,959
Speaker 4: Extended, Adabte Higgins.

1437
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 9: Extended adabt Trey Hendrix his contract address, like pushed for

1438
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 9: all those things.

1439
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: They've got a bunt.

1440
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 3: They don't have an indoor. They have a bubble. There's

1441
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: a difference between them.

1442
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. They have a bubble.

1443
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 6: Bubble.

1444
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 3: If I could pop it with the rusty nail, I

1445
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 3: don't know if it counts as like big movement in

1446
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: that regard, all right, Like Jonas and I can go

1447
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: buy a tent Dick sport Goods right there on the side.

1448
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 6: I mean that is true, Jonahs.

1449
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 9: The reality they have a they have a bubble like

1450
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 9: your your your local health pub.

1451
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I I uh, you know,

1452
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 4: but I and.

1453
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 9: I've heard all the stories that Brady has, like I go,

1454
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 9: it's gotten better.

1455
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:38,919
Speaker 4: I mean back in the day.

1456
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 9: I remember, God, I remember going up from Chad Johnson

1457
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 9: when he got to New England in the locker room

1458
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 9: and I was, you know, I was, you know, talking

1459
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 9: with him and everything, and I said, like, hey's the

1460
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 9: thing about the gatorade true in Cincinnati?

1461
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: Anything you know about that?

1462
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 6: And the story I had heard was that they don't

1463
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 6: like they actually have the gatorade next there they did

1464
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 6: to have like the actual gate.

1465
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 4: You know, like the counter. So that's that's that.

1466
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: Hey, when they're out, what do they do? They used

1467
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: tang or is it cool? Aid? What do they do?

1468
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: What's the option be?

1469
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: By the way, Albert, I believe Palmer made it seven

1470
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 3: years in Cincinnati before he kind of forced his way

1471
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 3: out to Oakland. And I think, is Joe is he

1472
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 3: going to the year six or is he finished year six?

1473
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 4: For him?

1474
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 9: I think Palmer, Yeah, I think you're right because when

1475
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 9: you were tired and yeah, because he made it through

1476
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 9: a nine and then retired after a nine and I

1477
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 9: think in ten, if I remember, that.

1478
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 6: Was when the Raiders trade no no.

1479
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 4: Or was it eleven?

1480
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 6: It was?

1481
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 3: I think you're when the Raiders traded for him.

1482
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unfortunate. Well, hey, you know you got Joe Burrow.

1483
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be around, uh you know for I.

1484
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 9: Mean, I mean a big, a fake, a fake resirement

1485
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 9: is a pretty pretty plastic measure.

1486
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 3: Think it's amazing.

1487
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: Powdered gatorade powdered.

1488
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 6: Oh wait, so he wasn't the Bengals and he did

1489
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 6: play for the Bengals in ten. Okay, so it was

1490
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 6: a lockout.

1491
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 4: When he retired, I.

1492
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: Was off here.

1493
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,440
Speaker 4: So he played eight years in Cincinnati.

1494
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 6: So the cost the coast second.

1495
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe we appreciate it as always. Enjoy the

1496
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: games this weekend, and we'll do it again next week.

1497
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: All right, there is Happy year, Happy New Year to you, uh,

1498
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Senior lead content Strategy. I told you that was it?

1499
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: Like that? That was it after that, It's just you know,

1500
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: we're running at the score feels like h. You can

1501
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: get him on X by the way, at Albert Breer. H.

1502
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: If you know, you've got any thoughts that you want to,

1503
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: you know, express to Albert there on social media, you can.

1504
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: But I do know this, man, and it's but you

1505
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 2: especially if all people know this, Brady, because sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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