1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, Breakfast Club Morning, 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the guy. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club Low on the rosa fillin 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: in for Jess and you got a special guests in 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: the building. Yes, indeed he's on the new. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Show on b E T Plus call Webers The Family Business, 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: New Orleans, which you're streaming right now. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we have Brandon T. Jackson. Welcome brother, 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: We're back. 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: How you doing my brother? 11 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Very well, very well excited. Uh show's doing good. So 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: you know people are liking that. 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: Call Weber's the family. What brought you back to Hollywood? 14 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: A nigga's gonna have that? 15 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: What brought you back to Hollywood? 16 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: You know what's so much? It's so funny because when 17 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: you when you go out and do a spiritual journey, 18 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you and you learn and 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: you aggregate people and you realize that it's like God 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: gives you a gift, right to use. And when it 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: gives you a gift, you're not using it. You could 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: you can go crazy and you can you know, you 23 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: can like get depressed. You can start and I think 24 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: my gift. This is something that was given to do 25 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: a purpose that's bigger than just acting. So I saw 26 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: the whole thing, you know, trying to aggregate, you know, 27 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: our people together, to come together economically. And I'm not 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: the first one to try, and I want to say fail. 29 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: But you know it's like artists were artists. What what 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: he gave me I believe to to to be alike. 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: How the industry changed, meaning like for good for better art. 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: I don't think I never Here's my issue. The whole 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: nominati cut off my gas. Everybody blaming something fictitious in 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: my sense, not I don't you know the whole you know, do. 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: You have to sell your soul to be in Hollywood? 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying. Question do you still have to 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: sell it? Now? 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying, I don't feel like it's like that. I 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: wonder spiritually. I feel like whatever you would do to 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: to uh, to get where you gotta go, you gotta 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: find what energy is pushing you. My energy was always 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: the most high, you know period. I mean my dad 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: told me this too. He's like you you got my blood, 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: my prayers, your grandmother's prayers, your grandfather's prayers running through 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: your veins. So when you do these other things, your 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: ancestors are calling for you not to do, so it 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: won't work. You know what I'm saying. I've been to 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: many you know, dark places in life, and I just like, 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: don't it don't work for me? You know, I tried comedy. 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: It's comedy your safe place because you're doing acting, and 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: you totally dove into comedy. 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's funny, I've been I've been doing 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: stand up since I was fortunate. I actually started doing 54 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: stand up in church. A lot of people think I 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: went and started doing I started as doing comedy and 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: then I got the movie Roll Bounds. 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: You said in church. 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I started in church. 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 3: You get up in front of the congregation. 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I was clean. I was a clean comedy. 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: I mean I'm still relatively pretty clean, but not you know, 62 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: I could do better. But with my dad, he don't 63 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: like one to my shows. But uh but uh yeah, 64 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: I talk about this in Chestnut. I got a new show, 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: we Shopping new. Well, it's really good. I actually I 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: would like you to watch it because you're a tough critic. DJ. 67 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: He's seen me perform, he's seen me do well. He's 68 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: seen me bomb, He's seen me get stendovations, everything, but 69 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: you never seen me do comedy. I would like that. 70 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: I'm gonna send that to you. Just called chest out. 71 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: We shopping in Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, everybody. So it's it's 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: it's looking really good. But yeah, comedy is it was 73 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: my safe place when I was going through the whole 74 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: spiritual journy. I actually talk about it, and the whole 75 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: thing is about that, you know. I thought, you know, 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: there's no disrespect. 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: But I thought at one time he was gonna quit 78 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: comedy because I've seen a couple of shows with Brandon 79 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: go up and this was right after everything and bomb. 80 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 81 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way Brandon is coming back 82 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: after and this is the bomb that you like? Charlamane 83 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: like bomb, like the bomb. 84 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I got two types of comedy I like. 85 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: I like when I think somebody is really funny and 86 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: really making me think I'm just I'm actually just watching, 87 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: like I'm not laughing, you know. I like to catch everything. Yeah, 88 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: But when somebody's bombing, yeah, you love it. 89 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 90 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: I think I like watching the person try to figure 91 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: it out. That's what makes me. 92 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: But New York bomb is a different from a regular 93 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: New York is a different. They they don't want to 94 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: even let you get it out, like if you if 95 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: you if you bomb in New York. Yeah, you could 96 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: say it's like it's it's acceptable because the New York 97 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: bomb is like you might be good in another city, y'all. 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: It was a tough audience, y, but I don't want 99 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: to say that. I don't want to say bombs every time. 100 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: But no, no, no. The DJ for his set at 101 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: least fifteen times. 102 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, does we're do it on tour? 103 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: So I did. Everybody said, got you guys, everybody. 104 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: Even for years though he seemed he that's what he saw. 105 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: New York is the is what I got good. Michael 106 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: shout out to him. He actually trained me to get 107 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: good because I wasn't wronging them where I was doing 108 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: all the movies. So it was Rocky three, you know 109 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like like then that's he was seeing 110 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: that moment years ago. 111 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: You was rich a little bit, and that's like in. 112 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen, sixth thing. But now that's you know, that's 113 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: that's old. 114 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: You stay with it though, because it's like you've seen 115 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: that and it would take a lot of heart from comedians. 116 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm resilient and plus I already know, like I know 117 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: what's going to have a waiver. 118 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: That's that's the old thing. 119 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: I've seen people comedians head down this, but you always 120 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: head up. 121 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: I'll get him next time. But what gave you that? 122 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Because I know I known fundy him, I don't have 123 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: to try to be fun. I'm a funny person, you 124 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just about connecting material to 125 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: have a story at the time. So now I have 126 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: a story how I left Hollywood for seven years, actually 127 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: joined a religious called Achmock but Doc and had to 128 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: come back. And Terrence Howard saying me, that's funny. You 129 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: know what I mean? That two stories Somewhat it's just fabricated, 130 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: but it's pretty pretty true. No, you gotta watch it. 131 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: You gotta watch it. 132 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: Terence seems like he's still in the coat right now. 133 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: I love Terrence. Though Arreens is smart, I totally agree. 134 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: I think there's put this number in the calculating five 135 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: five f Yeah. 136 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: But you know why I. 137 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: Respect guys like that is because they're at least trying 138 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: to figure something else. They're just not what has been 139 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: told to us all of these years. And if there's 140 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: another ways, just show me. 141 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: He's dealing in the it's it's deep man, quantum, the 142 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: quantum realm, and that's when you start talking about quantum 143 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: physics and all that stuff. 144 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: Thank you. 145 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: It's a different game. You're talking different language. You know, 146 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: we keep talking about Republican Democrats. Y'all better worry about 147 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: these computers. This is this is about to get real. 148 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: I have a tech company that that run and that 149 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing and these I have machines right now building 150 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: machines by itself. Like he's in that realm and he's 151 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: talking about stuff that people don't understand. So I know, 152 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: you know, I talked to him yesterday, sent me a 153 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: forty page book about what he was talking about. I 154 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: don't understand any of it. Yeah, I read it. It's 155 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: all numbers and stuff. 156 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: So did you ready? I was gonna ask you. So 157 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: when you send that, Michael's helped you bring your raw back. 158 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: What how do you do that? 159 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Go to Jamaican clubs at three in the morning, do comedy. 160 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: Go do that? See what happens. They're gonna play the 161 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: whistles on you. In New York. Go to Harlem at 162 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: three in the morning do comedy. Be the fifteen thousand 163 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: person up and get booed, you know what I'm saying, 164 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: and then then go do New York is the place 165 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: you get great period Detroit, and from Detroit and Detroit 166 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: to place you you have the flavor. But New York 167 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: is a place you just you just They not gonna play, don't. 168 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: They don't care. They got too many people. So we 169 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: would go to the comic clubs every night, every night, 170 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: all night, all night, all night. I'll be up to 171 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: five in the morning. Now go shoot my show called 172 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: dead Beat at the time, South Far Long Dead Beating. 173 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: From there, I will go to the clubs all night, 174 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: all night and we rip, say until you get standing ovations, 175 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: and then then I start. He's gonna be mad at 176 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: I start killing it because that would take I took 177 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: his style too, because he has a New York style 178 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: where he hit you like this, you see rip you 179 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: know me. I'm an actually an actor style where I 180 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: act out. I'm like a Richer and Eddie. Well, you 181 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: got to listen to the act out. New York don't 182 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: want to see an act out. They're more punchy, you 183 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: know what I mean. That's a style. 184 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, makes you play I think 185 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: a little bit. 186 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I mean, I'm in I love I'm 187 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: in Michigan most of the time. 188 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: I'm talking about when you you're from the Triple, when 189 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: you was out there doing the Hollywood thing. 190 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah it did. Yeah, it made me, It made me up. 191 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: But I'm it's you know, I was so I blew 192 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: up at nineteen. 193 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: Man, you think it came too fast for you? 194 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: No, I believe on the personal level, yeah, I believe 195 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: that I didn't stick to my core energy of what 196 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: brought me here. I believe that when you centered in God. 197 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: And I don't like preaching and I don't like you 198 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: better be afraid to testify. No, I know, but it's 199 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: like sometimes people get on the radio, they always want 200 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: to preach the stuff, but it's like, it's really the 201 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: core of who I am. And I literally made a 202 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: promise to God when I was a kid. I said, 203 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: you make me famous, this is what I would do 204 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: for you. Like, so, if you say, is there is 205 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: there a energy pool? I do believe people do make 206 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: dark covenants and different things. And I do think people 207 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: make light covenants. In this case, my my covenant was 208 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: was was was it light? I was always I was 209 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: given the God as a child, you know, and symbol 210 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: style you know what I mean with the anointed oil 211 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: with so when you go like that, but you you 212 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: can't get away from that. I tried. I tried it. 213 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 5: And so during your breakaway from Hollywood, and that was 214 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 5: your focus, Like I mean, I know, I saw some 215 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 5: quotes that you said you wanted to just build community 216 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 5: as well, kind. 217 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: Of yeah, I know, the community center in the community 218 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: to show up. So I'm back. I was. I tried, y'all, 219 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: ain't even popular. I gave hundreds of thousand dollars to 220 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: this dude, this cult leader. We sup will to build 221 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: a community. I I don't know what's about us trying 222 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: to build a community together where it's like this forbidden 223 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: thing in the matrix and I just want to challenge it. 224 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: And I realized that it's not really because we blame 225 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: a lot of other nationalities and we got you, oh 226 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: my god, we do though, But at the same time, 227 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: it's like I dealt with only us for a long 228 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: time and for seven years, and I realize that we 229 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: have to like I went, I went, I went, I 230 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: went to the mount the top. You know, we'll talk 231 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: about what you're talking about because a lot of people 232 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: might not know. 233 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: So you decided to try to it a cult, So 234 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: you decided to Was it joining religion? 235 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: Was it? No? It wasn't that. It's just the way. 236 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say religion. It was more so understanding leaders 237 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: that take the Bible and twist it to to control people. 238 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: I would say, you know what I mean, that's what 239 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: you were in. I didn't know I was in it. 240 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: You never know when you're in the now. You know truth, 241 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: You learn truth, want truth when people when people tell 242 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: you the truth, but then they take that truth for 243 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: their own power. That's when the truth is not. The 244 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: cult is not the problem. The teachers are usually the problem, 245 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? The shepherds that that say, okay, 246 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: now that you know this, you know what I mean? 247 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: They start to you know, you know what I mean, 248 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: give me a wife. He becomes like, wait a minute, 249 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: what you know what I mean? Did they ask you 250 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: what you know? What's funny? 251 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 6: You got a wife? 252 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: Now a wife? Now listen, I'm I'm I'm not If 253 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: you don't road bounds was a long time ago. I 254 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: don't got four children. I'm grown, I. 255 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 6: Got kids, and I thought, let's get back to the 256 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 6: first question. 257 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: I feel comfortable talking about it. That's cool to know. 258 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm trying to save it for the special, but we 259 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: could talk. I wish, I wish this was an interview 260 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: for the special, but because I talk about it as special. 261 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 6: But we can bring it back to the I'm trying not. 262 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: To say jokes that's in this special. You see me, 263 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: and that's why I'm pandering because I'm like that was 264 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: poking a little bit, but like so, but you really 265 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: want to know that the dramatic part of it, it 266 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: was more. It was more so. Uh uh, it wasn't 267 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: the whole time seven years I was in the call. 268 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: I literally was. Uh. I started when you when you're 269 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: trying to go and build our community together, there's a 270 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: lot of trauma. And I think people when they hold 271 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: on to the truth and and and understanding of some 272 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: certain scripts that they didn't put trauma on people. Is 273 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: it the best way I can say it. Yeah, so, 274 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: and the person wouldn't say he's in a cult, but 275 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: he's definitely a cult. 276 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: Now. 277 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: She asked about you know your wife and you know 278 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: there's a video of online talking about you re dated. 279 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 6: Yeah it was your ex wife technically. 280 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: Actually. 281 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 6: I was where you are? 282 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you figure that out? I'll be back together, 283 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: are we? Babe? Now I'm joking calling the babe. That's 284 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: y'all locked in listen. You know it's funny. We we 285 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: we try to keep everything very private now because we 286 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: people can just get into were but we definitely are 287 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: a family, and we definitely are. We love each other 288 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: very well, very much. And I would say that for me, 289 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: I feel like that I didn't give her the best 290 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: version of myself. I would say that. 291 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 6: That's very interesting to hear you, you know what I mean. 292 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: I'm very proud of you to hear you say that 293 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: accountability is hard sometimes. 294 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be accountable. I was, I was. I 295 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: wasn't a I wasn't the best husband, and not because 296 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: I was. I was just gone. It wasn't the guy 297 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: she met, you know what I mean. I was achmach badac. 298 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what my name was at the time. 299 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: So you was like Martin, it was. 300 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: That's not how she met. So you know, it's like, 301 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: we can't eat this, we can't do that. Yeah, sit 302 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: down and all the submissive stuff. It's like you women 303 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: and men submit to love. I learned we got to 304 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: submit to love and love is is what's the key. 305 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: And when I say that is selfless sacrifice, that's love. 306 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: When you don't want to do something and you do 307 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: it because you love that person. I think that's the 308 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: lesson I've I've learned and I'm still learning because sometimes 309 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: i'm I'm I'm very generous, but I'm not selfless, you 310 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: know what I mean? How did you get back to Brandon? 311 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: Some prayers? My mama, Jesus bring the mouth? 312 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: Jesus said, what did God say? Like, I'm really interesting? 313 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Said, I went to the mouth the top and I 314 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: seen it. I seen I've seen it light. You know, 315 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: I've seen the whole thing. I was in. I was 316 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: in the Holy land and God spoke to me on 317 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: the mountain top and you know what he said to me. 318 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: He said, get back to work, niggad, get back to work. 319 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: That's what he said. 320 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: I said, go back to work. I was done, you 321 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 322 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: And you do workman, acting yes. 323 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: And I do the whole thing. So you said get 324 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: back to work, and I felt it and I was like, okay, 325 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: it's time. 326 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 327 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: And it is cool because now I know my source. 328 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 329 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: So what did God say to you that made you 330 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: step away? Then he just ripped everything from me. He's 331 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: ripped it. It's like just ripped it, like just as 332 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: fast as he gave it to me. Now I think 333 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: about this, I did three minutes laugh factory right and 334 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: became roll Bounce was my sec my first audition, got 335 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: an agent at CIA right from one one. 336 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 337 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: It was a miracle, the fact that I made it 338 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: because they was coming to see another comic at the 339 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: time and then they were like, what you know, you 340 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: killed that set, you got a stand in ovation. Here's 341 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: a card. I'm like, what's cod agency? And they know 342 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: what COD was? 343 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 344 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: C A A right yeah at the time. And then 345 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: oh my agents got me too. So it's ridiculous. But 346 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: that's another story. Now now you know, I'm at buck Wall, 347 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: shout out to them. But I'm saying back in the day, 348 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: but that was the start of like the way the 349 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: cosmic stuff happened, where I got moved to this to 350 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: that and then it just it just it just it happened. 351 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: So fast, and it was like cosmic. It was like, Okay, Boom, 352 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: now you got audition with Rollbounds. Now you get Boom, 353 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: got that movie. Now you go wilding out. Nick Cannon 354 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: is showing you wilding out on the set of Rollbounds. 355 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: Now you on that. Then you get an audition for 356 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: Tropic Dunner. You don't get the park. Then they call 357 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: you back. 358 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: And then you get the park. 359 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It was always it was 360 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: always like that. 361 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: I member on Club Cat Williams said you you only 362 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: became successful after dressing like a woman. 363 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: It is. 364 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the whole woman dressed thing. I'm so it. 365 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: It's so hilarious to this conversation that never leaves the internet. 366 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm trying, I gonna give yall sound by. 367 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: I've come here and give y'll y'all sound by. You know. 368 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: The cool thing about Kat Williams, he he has a 369 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: cool way of of of of of getting people to listen. 370 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: You know. 371 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: He has a really strategic way of saying things that 372 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: make people go. Is that true? 373 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: You know? 374 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: And he has a cool way of selling tickets doing that. 375 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: He sold so many tickets. He sold my tickets with 376 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: that ship for real. When he said that my whole 377 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: tour was old, I was like, thanks, Kat, So it's 378 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: kind of like one of those things where no dress thing, 379 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: you know. I'm so I'm so partial to the to 380 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: how you look at things, you see it. So, so 381 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: you have this error and I'm just gonna give your 382 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: history Martin Lawrence, uh missed out fire all this stuff 383 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: in the nineties were there was no Internet. Everybody's blind 384 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: to it, right, and then after that era you have 385 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle comes out on Oprah and says this thing 386 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: that's that was the start of it, saying what I'm saying. 387 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: So no one knew the conspiracies or whatever it is 388 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: about this. Now think about it, a kid growing up 389 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: in the nineties, right, Brandy Jackson watching everything, I'm watching, 390 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm watching Martin watching everything. Mark Johnson, Ma, ma, ma, 391 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: you know middle Internet. So you look at you have this, 392 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: this this knowledge of you of these things. You know 393 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: you're looking at it. If there was something wrong, why 394 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: don't we as men come to that person and say, hey, 395 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: hey man, look you should do some research on this. 396 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: I believe this is a dark energy with that, you 397 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Uh, Kat never did that. I 398 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: respect him very much, but he never mentored And that's 399 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: why the mentorship in our in our community sppecial to 400 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: be black man, we don't. We just want to say 401 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: things in the media instead of calling somebody up. So 402 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: what is your attentions to really save me and help 403 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: or is your attention to bash my brand? So you're 404 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: gonna look better because when Martin came to me and 405 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: said this play is played in the movie, I was like, yes, 406 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, pay me three million dollars to work 407 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: with Mark Lawrence. You know what I'm saying. He had 408 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: this big ring, He's eating steak. I'm like, I want 409 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: I want to you know what I mean, You're twenty five. 410 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: I need that move at twenty four, fresh off Tropic thunder. 411 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: So it's like, no one's thinking about any of that stuff. 412 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: So and that was the case because he said on 413 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: the interview, Zach words was he said, y'all don't want me, 414 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: y'all want Brandony Jackson, right And I'm looking at him 415 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: on that I'm like, so, wait, you knew they were 416 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: gonna come for me, right like, and you told them 417 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: to kind of you tipped them and say, y'all need 418 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: to go get brandity Jackson. So was that kind of 419 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: pimping me out to the illuminati or was there in 420 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: his mind? 421 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Or what do you feel like commedians were in addresses illuminati? 422 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying, that's what he's saying. 423 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: What do you think though? 424 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: What do I feel? I feel that? I feel that. 425 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't, That's what I'm saying. I don't. 426 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: It's it's missed out fire lumin It's like someone is 427 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: black as a little like, I don't know what it's us. 428 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: It's Luminadi, but one of white people is comedy your point. 429 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: I'm older than you, I'm forty six, But when I 430 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: was younger, I just thought it was funny. Yeah, I 431 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: thought it was nothing else, not even gay, like not 432 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 4: even it just was I just thought it was funny. 433 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 5: I feel like when I moved to la Is when 434 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 5: I started hearing that like black men wear a dresses 435 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 5: whatever whatever, and I was like, what, I just thought 436 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 5: it was funny too. 437 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: I see both points to the defense. I never in 438 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: our dramatic arts, uh doing the history, we never had 439 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: those type of that came from Greek and Roman Greco Romans, 440 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So if you're saying you're 441 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: going to be pro black and pro this, and this 442 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: is what we are, this is what we do, that 443 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: was never our art form doing that, far as as 444 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: I can study, when I study ancient art, ancient folk tales, 445 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: ancient storytelling, we never did that as far as I know. 446 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: So when people say, hey, look that is a Greek 447 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: Roman situation, then you know that could be that's an 448 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: argument there because we probably learned it from them. So 449 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: if you if you're saying this is how our nationality 450 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: and what we do and we're sticking together, then there's 451 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: an other nationality said, we're Americans and this is just art. 452 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: So I've I just say this. People think that I 453 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: think I said it's one of the interviews that the 454 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: dress ruined. I think they actually they. 455 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: Say you said that, you said it was you said, 456 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: you said your career went downhill after the Big Mama's House. 457 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: You believe it was cursed because nothing went right since 458 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: then since you wore to dress. 459 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: And that's yeah, but you got to look at it. 460 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: That's also my mind was in a certain place too, 461 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: So I would say, right, I would say when I 462 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: was straight away from my principles. It is one is 463 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: when when when things got bad on my personal life, 464 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: you can't blame as I'm saying, you can't blame uh 465 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: you know your agent, you know what I mean, or 466 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: whatever people like to blame Hollywood. You know what I mean. 467 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: It's not Hollywood. Is what you do with the power. 468 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: And once I learned that, I'm like, it's not it's 469 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: no hoghywods. No to me, it's no invisible goals that's 470 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: trying to it's like God universe what they want to 471 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: call it. I say, Most High gives you, uh, it 472 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: gives you a choice to go down these these these 473 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: pathways to learn. And I don't really believe there's any 474 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: wrong choices. I believe that you're learning a lesson that 475 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: you have to go to get to where uh, the 476 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: Most High wants you to be, to learn as a 477 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: human because we're still learning. Were still we don't know 478 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: the extent of God's love and we don't know this 479 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: the extent of his judgment. We just don't know. So 480 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: if you have these lessons you're learning, I know I 481 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: would never do it again. Well, who's helping branding right now? 482 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: Going through all these and the ups and downs and 483 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: the pitfalls, to make sure that you mentally are okay, 484 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: Like who's helping you out during that process, because just 485 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: talking to it seems like it was it's been a 486 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: lot on a on a young kid in the industry 487 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: that's like, I don't know who's helping branding if anybody you. 488 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: Know what my my my father, I got, I gotta, 489 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: I gotta. I got an amazing father and mother that 490 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: that just I can talk to like it's not you 491 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean? And my fast nine of us. 492 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: I caught my brother up. Like, I met Holly Bury 493 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: the other day and I told her the picture. Yeah, 494 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: I told her, so listen, I'm taking you can't you 495 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: can't have me, no frudo, I was. I was so 496 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: nervous man. When I met Holly, I read it off 497 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: five movie titles for to remember who I was. She 498 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: know who the hell was? She was like, was like 499 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: was out there like I was like a big mama. 500 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: She's like huh and She's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 501 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: traffic thunder that was. She was like, which black guy. 502 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, well, you a lot younger. I 503 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: was like younger, Holly Berry, I feel. I mean, I 504 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: was just happy to take a picture where her. She's beautiful, man, 505 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: and she's very sweet, very very nice. I mean, I'm 506 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: not that that. It doesn't it doesn't bout Honestly, I 507 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: hate to say it, but I really don't care too 508 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: much anymore about that stuff. The stuff they got to 509 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: do it fine, Holly Berry is you know what I'm saying, 510 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: Like she's her as a human. You know, I don't 511 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: because she was so dope fine man. At first, I'm like, 512 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: damn Barry, you know, And I'm like, and I saw 513 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: myself rattling off these things. I could see her face 514 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: like just say what up? You know what I mean, 515 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: like high my own. When I saw that she was normal, by. 516 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: The way, that very what starts. 517 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 4: Media. 518 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: I was nervous, bro, I was. I was so nervous 519 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: when I was nervous, man, what was she She was 520 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: in the in the Delta one skylu what yeah? 521 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: Wow? 522 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: So she was there for a minute you could have 523 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: I mean, she had a boyfriend, and and I'm I'm 524 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm I'm taking right now. 525 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: I want to ask you. 526 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: You said you mentioned your brothers and your father. What 527 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 4: did they say when you put on the dress. 528 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: I mean, no one said anything. No one said nothing 529 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: until Cat Williams said something. 530 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: Wondering. Didn't bother you, It never bothered you. 531 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 4: And tell somebody said something about because that's the most 532 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: fascinating to say. When people have no problem with something. 533 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 4: Your conscience is fine with it, you know, your spirit 534 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 4: is cool with it. But as soon as somebody else 535 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: said something, now you like. 536 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it wasn't just that. It was more so 537 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: my ro stayed in Atlanta for like eight months after that, 538 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: just doing music. I don't I lost my mind on 539 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: that movie. I don't know what happened, you know what 540 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 2: I mean. I think it was definitely was something that 541 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: wasn't right on that movie. I will say spiritually, I 542 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: will say that now I can't explain it, bro, because 543 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: because I stayed, my agent called me, we got this 544 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: new Bro. If you find out the stuff I turned down, 545 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: tell us nice, it's depressing. But if you find out 546 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: stuff I turned down while they were getting me to 547 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: try to get out of Atlanta, my manager had to 548 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: get me out of Atlanta and move me. I had 549 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: this big penthouse. It was just wol was wild and bro, 550 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know why I don't know if I 551 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: was subconstantly trying to escape stuff. But then that's when 552 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: I had my first my first daughter. You know, I 553 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: can't talk about it because you know, I don't like 554 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: no court stuff coming over here, crying on here like 555 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: tyres and stuff. But I don't want to have I 556 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: got it. We have the same issues that you know. 557 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to I can't say too much, but I 558 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: would say this that that started my legal battles personally. 559 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: That movie when it came down to me having a child, 560 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: going through child support court, going through all that stuff. 561 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: That was That was the movie that that happened. But 562 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: that could have been because exactly could have been mean person. 563 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: You're doing it with, Martin. 564 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: It was a big movie. 565 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: It was promoted everywhere in a lot of ways. It's like, 566 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: oh he going on it. 567 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 5: Just understanding the impact of all of that as somebody 568 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 5: who you weren't like you said you didn't have like 569 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 5: no one called you and said, hey, this is how this. 570 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: Is going to go to one mentor cat None of 571 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: the mentor does they saw us talking to the media. 572 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: Just you gotta I have a whole mentorship program that 573 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: I do. Uh, it's called making the brand where we're 574 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: building businesses and really teaching financial literacy. I do that 575 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: now because nobody be telling us how to do this. 576 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 6: I get it now. 577 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: Though It's kind of like you're navigating a room in 578 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 5: the dark trying to find the light, like the light switch, 579 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 5: when somebody's literally over there at the light switch, and 580 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: they're like, oh, he'll figure it out because you're doing well. 581 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 6: And that's tough. 582 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: You know what I said, who did mentor me a 583 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: little bit? Simbad was He's a great great MENTORBA Simbad 584 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: is one of the dopest and his brother Mark Atkins, 585 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: he was one of the first ones that would showed 586 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: me around. That was that was the guy that was 587 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: really showing me how this works. And you know, he 588 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: he was the only, like I would say, the only 589 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: mentor I had. But you got nineteen. My dad didn't 590 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: know nothing about Hollywood and how things go. And then 591 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, you and not not making excuses, but we 592 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: don't mentor other talents and and even financially, you know, 593 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: you know, I've been through so much where I lost 594 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: everything with my you know, that lottery ticket scene was 595 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: real in real life. You know what I mean I 596 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: went broke, I lost everything, and then God just restored it. 597 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean I'm rich again. I mean the praise God. 598 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm making a lot of money and it's a blessing. 599 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that to to brag, but it's like, 600 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: as as as quick as it left, it came, it 601 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: came back. 602 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 4: I wonder, right, because you know, I've seen you reference 603 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: to Scripture Deuteronomy twenty two five and you said that's 604 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 4: one of the like, I guess that paraphrasing, but that 605 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: Scripture kind of forbids. 606 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: Cis gender men from wearing women's clothes. Getting that right? 607 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: Say it again? I'm rusty right now? 608 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: What does that? 609 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: I think it's Leviticus. 610 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 3: Is it Leviticus? 611 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: Oh, but it's a line from the Bible that some 612 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: people believe for bid cis gender. 613 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: Men from wearing women's what. 614 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: What's the it's twenty twenty five. 615 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: I thought it was Deuteronomy twenty twenty. 616 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: Now it's Leviticus. 617 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 3: Vinic is Alsouteronomy. 618 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, a state a woman shall not wear a man's garment, 619 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: nor show a man put on a woman's clothes. In 620 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: Anyone who does such things is an abomination to the Lord. 621 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 4: Your God scripture, Yeah, court the scripture. 622 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: So why didn't hurt other people? Other people's careers? 623 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. No that that whend that 624 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: when I caught that. 625 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: This on comedy hype. 626 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm saying, but why did Why didn't other 627 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: people put the dress on? It didn't hurt their careers? 628 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: So why do you think it? Why do you think 629 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: God cursed you? 630 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: I mean that's old, that's old something, but I believe 631 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: I cursed myself with with with when it comes down 632 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: to not following you, I'll tell you this. If you don't, 633 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: if you don't follow the ways for me, if I 634 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 2: don't follow the ways and the most I tried it, 635 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: I believe you. I'm saying my ship went down. You 636 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 637 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: test that anymore. But I would say I can't say it. 638 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: I can't say what God's special. We don't know God's 639 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: grace and his love for other people. I can't say 640 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: what he told you to do. And he never told 641 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: me not to wear a dress, you know what I mean, 642 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: not like that. He never said that. He never told 643 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: me not to work with Martin, But he what I 644 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: would say is that once I had, once I learned 645 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: that scripture, that's when I started to realize was it this? 646 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: And I think it I was on a lot of 647 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: pre interviews while learning learning the learning scripture, and I 648 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: think I was talking too much on the internet without 649 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: getting full knowledge of the of the things. Maybe it 650 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: was maybe maybe it was, maybe it was that, maybe 651 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: it wasn't. But I would say this, I would say 652 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: that that experience brought me to a place where I 653 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: got closer. I got closer with God to understand his mercies. 654 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: I know it's mercies and I know it's judgment from 655 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: for me, So I can't say, uh. I mean, I've 656 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: seen some people sniff cocaine and go up. I mean, 657 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean. 658 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever get caught into that that that Hollywood 659 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: life of the drugs and drinking? 660 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: And I don't do not. I mean I drink, but 661 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: like sometimes you know what I mean. I might have 662 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: a drink after this, but we don't get drunk. I mean, 663 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: I don't know I smoked weed. I mean it ain't not. 664 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: But now I'm more like, you know, I'm kind of 665 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: on my health stuff now. But that mean who didn't. 666 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: I never got into the extra drugs, you know, I 667 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: mean for. 668 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 5: What I have a question now, because it seems like 669 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 5: you're in a lot, like you're in a more restored place. 670 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. He restores my soul, right, Yeah. 671 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 6: I mean it gives me. It feels like you're kind 672 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 6: of working through things or have work through things. Have 673 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 6: you had a conversation with Cat Williams at this point 674 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 6: about the stuff that was said or what I've. 675 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Been trying to have a he keep running around the internet. 676 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: I can't get Cat called me like it's easy. It's not. 677 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: I could were you'll cool before. I've always been a 678 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: fan of Cat, he said, never meet your heroes. I've 679 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: always been a fan. I love Kat Williams. Like it 680 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: hurts me to hear him say these these are my mentors, 681 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean before? No in my in 682 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: my head in the media, like these are my my 683 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: comedic mentors. I'm studying these like these are people. 684 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 6: You're looking up to know? 685 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: Why you though? 686 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: Why did he Why do you need to my mom? 687 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: Like Cat always talking about you. I'm like mam and 688 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: everybody everybody he did, but he been talking about me 689 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: for years, Like it's been since we was since I 690 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: was like twenty three twenty four. 691 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 6: He said, it's been like twenty some years, right, you 692 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 6: keep going with it. 693 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Like, I don't know, man, but I 694 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: would love to sit down and have a conversation with 695 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: Cat Williams just to be like, Nick, why, what's the problem? 696 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 697 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: If whatever his reason is it is like, I mean, 698 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: I really don't I really don't care, but I really 699 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't know, Like why you keep talking? What's the what 700 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: is the social media are a llure of of me? 701 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: Like? 702 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: Talk about somebody else? 703 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: You think if the person Jackson franchise would have went 704 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: a different way? I mean that's Perthie Jackson personally? What 705 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 4: was the person was frustration Press Jackson? 706 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: Right, yeah Jackson? 707 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: If that franchise would have win a different way, you 708 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 4: think things would have been different for you? What you 709 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: mean if they would have had more success? What do 710 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: you mean different from me career wise? Because everybody was 711 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 4: saying that was supposed to be like the next Harry 712 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: Potter franchise, and I mean you see would have did 713 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: Potter different? 714 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: Daniel Radcliffe like, what you think that would have been 715 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: the same for you. 716 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I have fun. We did that Vancouver 717 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 2: and we had a good time. I mean nothing. I 718 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: love my path. My path is dope. Like who the 719 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: comeback kid? That's about who wants to watch somebody on 720 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: top all the time. 721 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: Michael B. 722 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: Jordan always got muscles. You know what I mean. I 723 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: love it. I mean all the time. You know what 724 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: I mean. Like you know what I mean. Like even 725 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: even Jonathan Majors, you know what I mean. He like 726 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: he's coming back and doing his resilience. It's all about 727 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: what story. I believe. I believe we actually write our 728 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: stories too. I believe subconsciously we co write with God personally. 729 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: This is my saying is I want none of y'all 730 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: people to hit me up like God ain't the Bible 731 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: but Ible. I would say that we're co creators with 732 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: our decision making to learn the best thing. I think. 733 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: I actually, I think subconscously I wrote this story. You know, 734 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: I don't like to man, it's not fun to watch 735 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: somebody the hero God of the flawed hero. You know 736 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm the flawed hero. I might get 737 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: drunk sometimes, you know what I mean. I wore a 738 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: dress and got mad and got on the internet and 739 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: said everyone's going to hell. And then you know what, 740 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean to come back with a number one TV show. 741 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: That's that's the cool ast story. 742 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: I agree. 743 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's interesting because it feels like you've made 744 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: your own choices every step of the way. 745 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: I did, probably not knowing. 746 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 6: I got to say. Some of it seemed like on 747 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 6: an accident. 748 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: I think it's instant. I think it's God leading me. 749 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: And then they said that they say lead you in 750 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: the path of rights, not to get so deep, but 751 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean, like he he has and even when I 752 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: make mistakes. That's why I say, I can't say why 753 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: that didn't curse somebody else can say why is this? 754 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: And I can't say it really cursed me because in 755 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: that interview I was deep in new understanding. When you 756 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: have new understanding, you're not supposed to even speak out 757 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: about that. So I would even I would say that 758 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: that that movie led me down a path for me 759 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: to learn whatever lesson I need to learn, whether it's humility, 760 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: because I mean people said that back in the day, 761 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: I was cool, but I was very arrogant. Arrogant but 762 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: I was just I mean, I grew up in a 763 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: two parent home. My dad owns a network. You know 764 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He put confidence in faith in me. 765 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: So I was never trying to be uh. And that's 766 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: the thing about black legacy. We say we want family, business, 767 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: want legacy, but then when we all, when people see it, 768 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: they want to talk against it. Everybody want that ship. 769 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: I watched I watch this ig like like and my 770 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 2: my wife be I can't spend like that yet y'all 771 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: don't know the way. The way yo, that y'all be 772 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: y'all be killing it. I love, I love my family. Listen, 773 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: I love it. I love I work for them. I 774 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 2: know me too. I'm trying to get on your level. 775 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: But I'm saying what you what you do is it's 776 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: so dope. You know. It's such an inspiration for people 777 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: with family, family man, you know what I mean. And 778 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: we need to see that that legacy, you know, you 779 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: know what I mean. We want to see our kids 780 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 2: live great too. 781 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people that didn't show that. 782 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: Like you know, talk all the time about raising our kids. 783 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: There's no instruction manual, so you've got to figure it 784 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: out on your own. Same thing with relationships, there's no instruction, 785 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: manual love. A lot of times you think you're dealing 786 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: with it by yourself. So when you do things, whether 787 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: it's infidelity or insecurity or whatever may be raising your kids, 788 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: there is nobody to be like, damn, I fucked up? 789 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: Is it just me? So that's why I put so much. 790 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: I put the good love and I write you know, 791 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: the books. 792 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: Real Life, Real the Family, Real Life, Real Love, because 793 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: I want people to know that you're not the only one. 794 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: You make mistakes, and it's okay to come backast people say, 795 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: and he'll make fun of me, and shit, make fun 796 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: of me, but it's all love regardless. 797 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 2: I know that these people love funny. 798 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 3: Nobody makes fun of you. You're just goofy. 799 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: They thought I was arrogant. I was walking in legacy. 800 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: You see the confidence that his kids have. They walking 801 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: in legacy. They can say, my my father's there, my father. 802 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 2: I was that my my grandfather. Horace Jackson got rest 803 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: and so he got We got streets named at them 804 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: in Detroit. You know what I mean. We just build 805 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: a school in Ghana, Horace Jackson's Technology uh University in Ghana, 806 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 2: Like we gotta do these things where it's not just 807 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: about being famous, wearing sunglasses, smashing chicks. It's trying to 808 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: build legacy, and that's what I'm on. I'm not trying 809 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: to just be Okay, I'm Brandie Jackson, I'm past, I'm 810 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: Brandie jacks and stuff. We're trying to build family and businesses. 811 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: I know that's a plug, but that's what we're doing, 812 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: family and businesses. Bro, you know what I mean. 813 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: Legacy. 814 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 4: But you're right, and I mean it's good to see 815 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 4: you back in a mentally healthy, emotionally sound space. 816 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: I think so anyway, I. 817 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 4: Think it's dope, and that's that's why I don't even 818 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 4: really want to talk to you, because I really want 819 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 4: to see your stand up because I feel like all 820 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: the answers are in the stand up and then we 821 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 4: can have a deeper conversation. 822 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's. It's it's. It's it's funny because it's 823 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 2: drama and I'm funny. I'm not really. I was talking 824 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: to my agent about this. I'm funny in a drama. 825 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: If you notice everything I've done. That was like, I mean, honestly, 826 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to say this, but I don't care. 827 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 2: I don't think big Mamaself is a good movie. I 828 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: think it's horror movie personally, Remember exactly. 829 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 6: Why do you think it's a horrible movie. 830 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: It's a good movie because because when you have a 831 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: tropic thunder palette offense, when you're around those dudes that 832 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: are writing like like like Danny McBride just in the row, 833 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: they writing the highest octane of high level satire. Mail Brooks. 834 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: When you study comedy slapstick, I don't like slapstick. I'm 835 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 2: not good as a slow. 836 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 6: Bar comedy like it was like easy punch. 837 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: It's slap I'm not a slapstick artist. I'm funny in 838 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 2: a drama. You know, the best was that was Eddie 839 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: was always funny in dramas. Beverly Hills Cop is a drama. 840 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: Martin does better, and he actually both. He does great 841 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: slapstick because this whole show was slapstick. 842 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: But Martin's of the best physical comedians. 843 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, physical comedians, but he can do both. Martin and 844 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: the drum. Bad Boys is a drama. 845 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: Life was a drama. 846 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: Was the drama. So when when that's why I'm like 847 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: Big Mama, slapstick it, you know, it's not it's not 848 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: challenging it's phoning it in, getting the check, dressing up. 849 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: So but now with this, this film I have with 850 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: family business, I mean it's people like, man, you go 851 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: acting this. I'm like, it's good. I know. You can 852 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: do drama like dramas. Drama's easy. Comedy is hard. So 853 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm the king of drama. Y I 854 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: would say, I can do both. I can do drama comedy, 855 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Very evenly. 856 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: What's special it's called chest out drama is more of. 857 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: I would say. I mean, it's it's not like it's 858 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 2: not as heavy as as Jamis was, but it's it's 859 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 2: definitely it's the through line is drama. You know what 860 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 2: I mean. Leaving your wife and going to damn Nashville. 861 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. 862 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: I mean, and in white coats and sheets and stuff, 863 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: and your wife is sitting at home like, you know 864 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: what I mean, where's my husband at? When does that 865 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: come out? When can we see that? If y'all keep 866 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: shouting out, we get a great deal. So we're negotiations 867 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: with like two networks right now. So I just like, 868 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: I don't I don't I mean Netflix, y'all. Y'all said, 869 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: y'all must have been eighteen billion. Kind come on, I 870 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 2: really I really like Netflix because I think they know 871 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: what to do. Amazon's been great with specials lately, you know, 872 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's funny people get people had 873 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: on Toby. First of all, I love Tooby. Movies Club 874 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: is on Toby. I know, yes, love to Be. I 875 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: gotta deal with to Be. Actually, and my bros are 876 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 2: people Detroit are making mad beautiful and they're owning their piece. 877 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 5: So directly, yeah, meet, I loved you. 878 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 2: I love Toby. To Be is great too. At first, 879 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 2: it was, you know, it kind of got random, like 880 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: you wouldn't getting Dinzel Washington. You get Denzel Washington, you 881 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, be some bouleg Denzel. And then uh, 882 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: you know Ethan Hank, Evan Falcon. Uh sorry, so the 883 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: eating honk but no. But now it's like, I feel 884 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: like we laugh at that. But then you start seeing 885 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: all these producers come up, you know what I mean, Detroit, 886 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: all my bros. Shout out to Dennis reed Man, Robinson, 887 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: all these guys that that are killing in the film game, 888 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: and Tooby is definitely an option. I love Toby. To 889 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: Be is great there. They're definitely an option with that, 890 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 2: so I could keep my ownership. You know what I'm saying. 891 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: So's we'll see. But with the special therapeut you oh 892 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: hell yeah, yes, yes, and uh you know, you know 893 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 2: I would say Terrence. Me and Terrence talk a lot, 894 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 2: no see, Terrence Howard, we talk a lot about how 895 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: we're not understand both pisces. So a lot of people 896 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: don't understand you know, the vicious fishes, right, we got 897 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 2: one fish that you know, I would say it's very 898 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: composed and the other fishes little crazy, I would say, crazy, 899 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: but emotional them. And we talk about how we were 900 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: misunders I'm eccentric, so we're misunderstood, you know what I mean? 901 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: So when I went out one Terrence, me and him, 902 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: you know, we talk a lot about know what he 903 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: goes through, how he no, he's just like he's actually 904 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: right about what he's said. But nobody he's in the 905 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 2: special Actually. 906 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're misunderstood. People just don't know 907 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: the story. You got seven years on Terrence, I'm talking 908 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 4: about you. Yeah, I got seven years to fill in, 909 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 4: and I think that's the specialist. 910 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 3: Going to do it. 911 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 5: We only knew what we saw, like media wizing like 912 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 5: little bits of things here and there like sodom. Yeah, 913 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 5: when you were in you would say the boy would 914 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 5: go it would be everywhere. 915 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 2: I don't even know that. 916 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 4: And you don't want us to listen to YouTube YouTube, 917 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 918 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 6: Crazy. 919 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: I knew he was gonna go here too in this MBI. 920 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm happy you did because no one really actually talk 921 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: about you know, where have I been in that in 922 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: that layers and and even to be mature enough to 923 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: to speak about it in a way where I'm not 924 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: emotional about it and not hurt. I'm healed and to 925 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: see uh, to see where I'm at now is a blessing. 926 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: But I would I would say this that I would 927 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 2: say that I would. It was a spiritual hazing. Also, 928 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: I think God was was was was testing me. He 929 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: does this a lot with with people, and that's you know, 930 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: I only say I hate that word chosen, but people 931 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: that he has a purpose for. He'll rip everything from 932 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: you to see if you're still going to be with him, 933 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 2: if you love and I don't even say him, but it, 934 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: if you love it or the most high, if he 935 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: loved more than your your your career, more than everything 936 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: more than your family. And he did it to Joe. 937 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: He ripped everything from it. And I guess I I 938 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: think I passed that. I don't want to go through 939 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: that again. I'll tell you that. 940 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 3: Did you see Kyrie Irvan nothing that when he towards 941 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 3: a c l. 942 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 4: In his eyes and he went to the free throw line, 943 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 4: and you know, because he had to take the two 944 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 4: shots before he exited the game. He hit one and 945 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 4: right before the second he said, thank you God. Wow 946 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 4: with the tory, they said he knew something was completely wrong, 947 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 4: probably knew this is really bad injury. 948 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: He said, thank you God. Yeah. 949 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 4: So just like you know, we like to give praise 950 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 4: to God when things are going good. But if you 951 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 4: really truly are believing, if you really truly have faith, 952 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 4: you gonna thank God when things are good and bad 953 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 4: so called back Because I don't believe either. I don't 954 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 4: believe it's so called good also called bad. I believe 955 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 4: everything is just part of a process. 956 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: That's why I'm learning, That's why I'm getting to that. 957 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm that, Yeah, you want a journey. 958 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: We don't want a journey. You had a different chapter 959 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: in your life right. 960 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 5: Now, BTJ be the journey right now, How did all 961 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 5: of this the stuff that you went through and then 962 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 5: once you're healed, like then you come back to acting 963 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 5: with like family business, how do you what are you 964 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 5: channeling from all of this in your role now? Because 965 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 5: I think in this role, I was more surprised to 966 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 5: see you be like serious the bad guy like not 967 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 5: but like there's like guns and it's like like, I 968 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 5: don't know, you were just always so clean to me 969 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 5: in like a lot of the work that you Yeah, like, 970 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 5: so how are you channeling that or is that even 971 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 5: a thing? 972 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 6: In the family business New Orleans? 973 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, you know, it's funny because we had a 974 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 2: we had a my dad had a shoe company called 975 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: Wayne T. Shoes back in the day in Detroit the 976 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 2: middle Detroit place get robbed and stuff. But we were 977 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 2: running the store. That that is the like even though 978 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: I grew up in the hood and the suburbs, I 979 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 2: would say, my, my, my, my, my seven mile Woodward 980 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 2: businessman watching my dad run a business. Guns, you know 981 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: what I mean. I won't say too much, but like 982 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 2: people try to rob the we had the gators and 983 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 2: every people try to Coolie's and all that. People try 984 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: to rob them. You know we would have you know, 985 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: we would have to you know, chase them off and 986 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: do this. So I remember the times that my dad 987 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: would you know. I remember this one time, this trucker 988 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 2: pull pull us over my dad hopeing he'll get mad 989 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: with telling story because my dad was, you know, he 990 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 2: from the streets before he became a pastor, drug dealer 991 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: before he became a pastor, which is most Detroit preachers, 992 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: so he still had that edge and everything. So I 993 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: remember one time this truck uh pulled us over, I 994 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: mean run us off the road. My dad's like five 995 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: a's like my size five eight. And I watched him 996 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 2: pull this trucker out, his white truck or the trucker 997 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 2: at out of the freaking car. He was like six 998 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: maybe maybe six two sixty three, pulled him on the 999 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: ground and I was like, nick, I can't say the 1000 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: n't word right. He said, He was like, nigga, have 1001 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 2: you ever mess with my family? I was like, yo, 1002 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 2: so I swim My dad roar as a lion, and 1003 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: the dude was he was jacking him up. My mom 1004 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: was like, stops. So I'm challenged. I'm channeling my father kind. 1005 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 6: Of character in the show he's very yay. 1006 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: I'm channeling that that energy that is really not mine. 1007 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 2: It's really my dad's energy. Because I grew up pretty, 1008 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 2: you know, pretty pretty cool. You know, I didn't really 1009 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: have I'm not gonna be like I'm I grew up nice, 1010 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 2: but we also grew up running businesses in Detroit. The 1011 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: church was over here, the shoe store was across the street. 1012 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 2: I had to wash the shoe store. I have to 1013 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 2: shine the shoes, I had to wash the register. So 1014 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 2: that I grew up in the family business. So I'm 1015 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 2: I'm challenging. I'm channeling that. The white side you see 1016 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 2: is my West Bloomfield, you know, all white neighborhood. I 1017 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: got both, you know what I mean. That's kind That's 1018 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 2: why my jacket probably looked like this. I got I'm 1019 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: a variation of things, you know what I mean. So 1020 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 2: we look forward to seeing you. 1021 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: And Chris Webber is the family business as a Christmopher, 1022 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: call Weber and also when we when you're special, come on, come. 1023 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: Back up so we can talk about that specially. I 1024 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: would love to. I'm listen and I'm it's fine. You 1025 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 2: give me your honest opinion. I've I've what I would say, I. 1026 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 2: I screened it for a lot of people, and it 1027 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: got it got in a lot of festivals, and it's 1028 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: my agent said, don't put in the festivals because we 1029 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: want to present it, you know, a certain way. But 1030 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: it got a lot of good reviews from a lot 1031 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 2: of people that watched it. So actually your opinion actually 1032 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 2: counts to me in comedy because I know you're tough, 1033 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 2: You're you're you're a tough critic. You're analytical too, so 1034 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 2: I can see what you're like watching you know, like 1035 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: when they bomb and watching people figure it out. 1036 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 4: I love dramedy, drama, dramedy specialist like I love uh. 1037 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 4: I think Neil Brennan did a phenomenal job with three mics. 1038 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah he did with that. I love Kevin Hart's last one, 1039 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 3: The Reality Check. 1040 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good. 1041 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 3: I thought that was really good. And I like Andrew 1042 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 3: Schultz new one in Life. 1043 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah Andrew, because he's talking about him and his wife's 1044 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 4: difficulty of having a child, but it was his fault. Yeah, 1045 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 4: he had the Week's for him and I liked. I 1046 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 4: like seeing people process their traumas through comedy. 1047 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1048 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 2: My next one's classy Rebel. I want to I want 1049 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 2: to talk about. I'm talking about the the world. Man. 1050 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm just tired of the viewpoints of politics on us. 1051 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 2: I thinking like a little political in this next one. 1052 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,959 Speaker 3: I remember, I remember you said you hate the fake. 1053 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 3: WoT fake? 1054 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: I hate the fake. I hate fake revolutions like, if 1055 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 2: we gonna do it, let's do it. I don't like 1056 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't do fake because I was ready. 1057 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: I was the only one ready to really ride. That's 1058 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: why I was ready to go, y'all. I created my 1059 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 2: own currency. I was we was going, and nobody came. 1060 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: I was the only one. You had a whole Yeah, 1061 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 2: we had a whole thing. No, it wasn't crypto. It 1062 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 2: actually could still work if you do it right. 1063 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 6: But what was it? 1064 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 2: It was called love notes? He remember that love notes. 1065 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 6: Like usher Bucks? 1066 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not. 1067 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 3: Where do you spend them? 1068 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 2: Well, the infrastructure for it was it wasn't gonna actually 1069 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 2: stimulate the American economy and our own economy at the 1070 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 2: same time. So it was it was actually, I don't 1071 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,439 Speaker 2: want to actually give this a weakness. Mandy might try 1072 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 2: to do it, but I give enough away. I would 1073 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 2: say that because I'm not gonna give you the infrastructure, 1074 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 2: but the way it would work, we actually could pay 1075 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 2: things forward for people and from their businesses. It was 1076 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 2: creating the ecosystem for African Americans without hurting because when 1077 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 2: you when you just take your own and say we're 1078 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: gonna be all stappary, forget that, they always shut that down. 1079 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 2: So it was like, how do you barter with all Americans? 1080 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 2: How do you barter with uh white Americans? And how 1081 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 2: you bortered with because you still got to do business. 1082 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: So in this case, it was like, let's not be 1083 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 2: just fully Marcus guard be in a situation. Let's stimulate 1084 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 2: our economy, you know, in our ecosystem, but let's also 1085 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 2: take it and out their ecosystem. So it was more 1086 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: of a coupon system that that paid things forward for 1087 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 2: people that created economists called love notes, So it was 1088 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: selfless sacrifice of love notes. You can you can pay 1089 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 2: things forward. And we had a little card and everything 1090 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 2: I got, I got the whole financial system to help 1091 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 2: the backman everything and then and then. 1092 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 4: I would pay to listen to a full conversation between 1093 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 4: you and Terrence Hout. I know you told Terrence I 1094 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 4: got the math for that. 1095 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, well, he actually does. I 1096 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 2: got the math that it actually works too. If you, 1097 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 2: if you really it's it's we're actually free. If you really, 1098 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: if you really know the knowledge of it were we're 1099 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 2: actually free. Guys, We're not. 1100 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 3: Really. 1101 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't think we're in captivity. I agree, Brandon T. Jackson. 1102 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you, sir. 1103 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up 1104 00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 2: in the morning. 1105 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 3: Break as Club