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What's going 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: on with this guy? 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Chris? 23 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Why don't you if you could tell us how you met? 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: At about any dates? You've been on and where things 25 00:00:59,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: are now? 26 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this his name is Chris. What We went 27 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: on one date. We met on Hinge. 28 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: We talked for a little bit on the app and 29 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: some texting, and we called on the phone and we 30 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: went on a really fun date. But he just never 31 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: like texted me back after the date. So I don't 32 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: know what's going on. 33 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: Okay, And you look back on this date. I always 34 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: asked this question. You look back on the date and 35 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: you really felt like everything went well, no stumbling blocks, 36 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: no weird topics, nothing. I mean, it was like the 37 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: conversation was flowing and the chemistry was there, and and 38 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: you know, you really walked away thinking I'm for sure 39 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: going to hear from this guy again. We're definitely going 40 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: out again. 41 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: No, yes, I really felt that. Well, yeah, it was 42 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: kind of like interesting because we went He suggested a 43 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: rage room, So I was super excited for that because I've. 44 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Never done that. 45 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: He's never done that, and like we both shared about 46 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: like some of our past a little bit, and he 47 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: was encouraging me to. 48 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, like. 49 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: Go for it, like what you're what you've been penting 50 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: up over time? So I rage room? 51 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, hey, Hey, I'm right, that's an activity 52 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: that I've not heard of on a day, But sure, 53 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: why not? 54 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: I like it? I like it. 55 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: I mean I feel like everyone's like maybe for a drink. 56 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: I mean I'm guilty of that. I don't plan activities, 57 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: but good, Yeah, like your energy was flowing. I felt 58 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: I liked him, and I think he liked me too. 59 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: I just don't know what happened to him, Like did 60 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: he get into a car accident? 61 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: Like why is he calling me back? Why isn't he 62 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: texting me? Why did he just ghost me? It's weird. 63 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well we're about to find out because we're 64 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: gonna call this guy, Chris hit him on the phone. 65 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: You'll be on the phone as well. 66 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: And I don't want you to say anything right at first, 67 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: but at some point you're welcome to jump in after 68 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: we get you some infunt. Hey, Kim, all right, welcome back. 69 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: Let's call Chris. You guys, you met on one of 70 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: the apps on Hinge and you went on a date. 71 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: You thought the date went great. You guys went to 72 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: did like an activity, went to one of those rage 73 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: room things, and you had a good time and you 74 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: left the date thinking that you wanted to see Chris again, 75 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: but he is not responding to you. He's not reaching out. 76 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: You want to know why? Yeah, okay, let's call him now. 77 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Good luck? 78 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: Kim? 79 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi is this Chris? Hey Chris, good morning. My 80 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: name is Fred. 81 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm calling for the Fred Show, the morning radio show, 82 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: and I have to tell you that we are on 83 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: the radio right now and I would need your permission 84 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: to continue with the call. Can which hat for just 85 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: a second? You can hang up anytime? 86 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: Uh? 87 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? Sure? What's up? 88 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Okay? 89 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: Well, we're calling on behalf of a woman named Kim 90 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: who says she met you on Hinge and I guess 91 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: you guys went on a date recently. 92 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember her? I hope, Yeah, yeah, I remember. 93 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: So she called us and had nice things to say 94 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: about you and said she liked you and enjoyed the date. 95 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: Was hoping to hear from you again for another date. 96 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: But you're not responding to her. You haven't reached out. 97 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: She feels like she's being ghosted. What's your side of 98 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: the story. 99 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I had a nice time talking to 100 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 6: her online and but look in person, it seemed like 101 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 6: she just had some pent up things that she needs 102 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: to deal with and that's kind of like where we 103 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 6: left off. And I was like, you know, maybe not 104 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 6: not for me right now? 105 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Like, could you give us a 106 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: little more? I mean, why do you feel that way? 107 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: What happened? 108 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 6: Well, look, I took her to one of those rage 109 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: rooms for a date because you know, I thought it 110 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 6: would be fun and different, like you know. 111 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: And one of these places like as a show. We went. 112 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: They got old appliances and TVs and it goggles on 113 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: and you can just go swing it and stuff. 114 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: So that's what you guys did. So what happened, Yeah. 115 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 6: You know, you know, I'm glad we did, because like 116 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 6: it showed me that there's a whole aside to her 117 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 6: and that she has some pent up aggression that she 118 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 6: should probably deal with before getting into a relationship with anybody. 119 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: What does that mean though, because like the purpose of 120 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: going in the room is to get the aggression, Like 121 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: that's why you go there. So why why was that 122 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: so triggering for you? 123 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Though? I mean, what happened that was out of the ordinary. 124 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 7: You know, yeah, I hear you, but it's just, uh, 125 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 7: I saw a side of her that I was like, 126 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 7: this is more than just somebody having fun and like 127 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 7: you know, being angry throwing. 128 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 6: It seemed like there was some something underneath going on. 129 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, well yeah, what did you see though? 130 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 6: So we're allowed to like play music, and while we're 131 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 6: breaking stuff, she picks like a death metal song and 132 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 6: then like, dude, I'm not even kidding, she started doing nuts. 133 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 6: Like it's gonna sound mean, but like, you know, like 134 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 6: an animal with Raby's kind. 135 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: Of wow, whoa Kim became an animal with Raby was 136 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: at the mountain. 137 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 6: Practically, man Like, I'm not even kidding, but she was 138 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 6: screaming and like breaking stuff. And I'm not trying to 139 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 6: sound mean, but yeah, I feel like she was salvating. 140 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: A little bit. 141 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 6: It got a little messy, and it was not it 142 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: was not cute, like you know, she was screaming, breaking 143 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 6: stuff and when the music stopped, right, so yeah, and 144 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 6: like screaming like like hardcore screaming like scary, and when 145 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 6: the music stopped, she wouldn't stop. And that was very weird, 146 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 6: man Like they had to like pry the crowd crowbar 147 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 6: out of her hand. And I was a little a 148 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 6: little freaky, you know, it freaked me out. And I'm 149 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 6: also pretty sure she was screaming like you peel or 150 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 6: something like that. 151 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, Phil, damn, let me bring 152 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: Kim in. I forgot to mention that Kim is here. 153 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm very forgetful. Hey, Kim, who's Phil? And 154 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: And what's that? What's with the mouth frothing? 155 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: Like? 156 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: What shell? 157 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: Is my biological dad who led when I was four? 158 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 159 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: Oh, okay, of course I would have pensive energy, and 160 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: also like doesn't everybody have pens up energy sometimes. 161 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: Like it's fine, it's fine. 162 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 5: To express anger than to internalize it and then go 163 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 5: raw inside for life, right, Like you just. 164 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: Got to let that out. So I don't understand that. 165 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: I don't like I have a right to be angry 166 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 4: at my biological dad who left me when I was 167 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: a child. 168 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a guy with daddy issues and a 169 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: room full of daddy issues. I'm not laughing at you, 170 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: but I'm just envisioning going on a first date with 171 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: a woman who is who is aggressively and uncontrollably swinging 172 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: at things and screaming out her father. 173 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: I think. But it's so normal, right, isn't that what 174 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: anybody would do? 175 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: Right? It's real Yeah, it's a very real thing. But 176 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: I guess if I didn't know you normal, If I 177 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: didn't know you, I might, you know, be a little 178 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: concerned about your well being. If you were screaming a 179 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: man's name and then they had to physically restrain you 180 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: from from and take the crowbar from your hands and 181 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: pry them pry it away from you, I would concern me. 182 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: I think I would be wondering, you know, kind of 183 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: for what the context was. And now we know. So, Hey, Chris, 184 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: she she was screaming at her estranged father on a 185 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: first date. Yeah, totally normal, right, I'm I mean, okay, 186 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: I this one's hard because I'm laughing because the picture 187 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: in my head is I don't know what I would 188 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: do if I were you, Chris, Like, I don't know 189 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: how I would. First of all, if I heard a 190 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: man's name and you're swinging, I would assume it was 191 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: an ex boyfriend, And then I'm like, why are we 192 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: thinking about him right now? It turns out, though it's 193 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: a little bit deeper than that, which we commiserate with. 194 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I can see why if 195 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: you didn't know someone well and you weren't invested in them. 196 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: You might be like, I don't know if I want 197 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: to go down this rabbit hole with you, you know 198 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: what I mean, because it sounds like maybe you've got 199 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: some unresolved stuff. I mean, would you say that's true, Kim, 200 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: that you have some some unresolved issues? 201 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: You know? 202 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that part is unresolved. But I think 203 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: I you know, I'm sure maybe Chris has some unresolved things, 204 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 4: and I do have resolve things that are unresolved. 205 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Huh. 206 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: That's why you got therapy though, you know you should 207 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 6: probably do that. We all have. 208 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes therapy is not enough. 209 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 6: My guy doesn't help you. 210 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, just the guy left me when I was growing up. 211 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that mother, I get it. 212 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: You don't have a crowbar, you don't have any sort 213 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: of sharp objects. 214 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 4: Berkley, I do like I'm always ready, like if he 215 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: if I ever see. 216 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: This man, Okay, I guess I can kind of see 217 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: where where Chris is coming from. 218 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: But Kim, I feel for you. 219 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: I do feel for you, and I want you to 220 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: like talk to somebody about this, you know. 221 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 222 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just like really angry after all this. 223 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's that's that's clear, Kim. 224 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: I really hope that that maybe you could talk with 225 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: someone about this and I don't know, find some form 226 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: of resolution or something, because moving forward it might be 227 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: an issue for you. Would you say, that's that's possible. 228 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible. 229 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. And here's Chris who doesn't know you, and he's going, 230 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what. You know, what if I uncovered here? 231 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't know, so it's not really his fault. 232 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: But I'll ask the question, Chris. I mean, now you 233 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: have a little bit better understanding, would you like to 234 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: go out with Kim again? 235 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 6: Okay I shouldn't say for a bit. 236 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Oh well, hey, if you would, he could. 237 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: All right, this is really unraveled now. Look, Kim, I 238 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: wish you the very best of luck. I do, And 239 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: and Chris thank you for your time as well. 240 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Chrim, don't forget that.