WEBVTT - The Battle of the Braxtons Recap with Claudia and Dustin 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.040 Well look, ray jobs, you have the three of us 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.320 on a fry day night. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.440 First of all, Happy Halloween. We're we're not. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.520 A costume, Nope, but what's up boo? 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.919 Happy Halloween? Hey, candy is like fifteen dollars a bag. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.080 Are y'all giving these little mofuckers and the candy this year? 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.120 And a right? Are you even opening the door. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.880 So back in the day the way that it used 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.639 to work that I want to know if that's still 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.800 the case. The porch light has to be on in 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.520 order for that's that's the welcoming sign. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.120 Okay it should be, but they don't give a fuck. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.960 You know, rules and traditions are going out of the window. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.800 They'll ring the doorbell and bang on it with the 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.199 lights off. They don't care no more these days, they 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:47.600 don't mind. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.360 My front door is really scary, Like it's like a 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.720 twelve foot high like iron door but has black glass 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.560 where I can see them and they can't see, Like 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:58.279 if I don't have the lights on the inside, Like 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.120 walking up to my house is really scared. Maybe I 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:02.560 might just mess with the kids a little bit and 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.200 then just like you know, scare them. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.280 I don't know, you should you should. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:08.920 I do have film and I'll share it with you 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:09.600 guys on Monday. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.000 I remember it. You just made me think about it. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:13.920 I remember that door. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.640 I have to go to Dallas when I know I 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.840 have to make a trip. I do miss having some 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.160 one on one time with Claudia. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.119 I mean they say I beg you to hang out, 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.720 so I'm not gonna say it anymore, but like thirsty 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:33.520 that the comments got your number, begging follows to hang out. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.560 You don't want to hang with her begging for a job. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.600 I'm like, do you not know our sense of humor 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.600 by now right? No? 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.200 We all have a humor. And that's why for Halloween, 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:52.280 I am Dustin Wroth Claudia, so like, you know, I 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.480 got on or whatever, and you know, fuck the motherfucker's 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.920 calling me Justin and ship I'm gonna fuck nigga. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.840 I don't really fucking hamas don people, because you know 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.680 I'm the man and I got everything going on, you know, 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.800 So I so Ray Drowns. I am Dustin Ross for Halloween. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:12.760 I love it, and I this hard. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.560 Know I need somebody to play me in a movie 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.160 because I want to look at the screen the way 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.400 Whitney used to be looking at people singing her songs 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:19.360 on stage. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.600 I want to do that just now, so I'm with you. 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.880 There you go, allay, Halloween, that was MIA's Dustin, Claudia 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:31.480 be carlos. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.440 Key for Halloween. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.520 Yes, bitch, Oh my god. I love all the girls. Oh, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.120 I love everybody, and I am not gonna talk about 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:44.600 about anyone even when they're wrong. Yes, bitch, yes, hold on, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:50.560 I got some kim Y in my teeth. I am 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.320 single out on these streets. I don't ask me any questions, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.239 but don't worry about who I was in Europe with. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.680 But anyways, yes, are you ready? Are you ready? 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.920 Mm hmmm mm hmm. And no. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:06.640 And notifications yep, yes, notifications. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.480 On Tuesday. I'm not gonna say who it is. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:22.080 But that was good. That was good, Glaudia, that was good. Okay, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.760 So so Dustin, you turn to be Claudia. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:31.280 Okay, look, let me see what the comments are saying. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.600 I don't want to check it quite of the comments 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.800 they're saying that I don't know, looking like I don't know. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.200 I'm just saying I ain't saying you know what I mean, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:46.400 I don't know, just looking like the comments are saying, well, personally, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:46.800 I don't. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.280 Know funk that. Listen if she doesn't want to go 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.120 do the that's my girl, Claudia. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:57.400 Yes, look, well we'll do the real impressions when we 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:02.160 go out, okay instead of our new show. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.720 That's right, that'll be good. 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.160 Actually, no, that'll be good. That'll be good. It goes 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.600 to show that as friends we could do that. Like 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:13.520 I'm actually funny. I love that. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.680 Yes, and party is right because on our show, we'll 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.320 have a wardrobe budget for the holidays. So just think 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.640 about the things we will do for like Christmas, the 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.520 things will do for the Halloween episodes. Just think about 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.440 episodes because it's gonna come back year after year, especially 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.040 once we start snatching them trophies. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.440 So I'm excited. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.960 I can't wait. I can't wait to move to Yeah. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.000 Q one, Q one Q one. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:42.920 Yeah, and that city has good men, Like that's where 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.440 I have the best luck. In that city. I'm not 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.080 going to say the city, but that's the city I 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.400 have my my you know, I've. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.040 Had to Well, they tell you up front the fruit 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.200 is big, so you know what I'm saying. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.760 I listen, not all the big apple. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.279 You know what. The fruit was definitely big there, I 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:00.880 will say that. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.400 So yes, very exciting and I love taking a bite 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:06.880 out of the big apple. Yeah. 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.120 They else have good weed and good mushrooms. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:14.839 See what else do you need? Industry? We men, you 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.880 know what I'm saying, good dropping. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.200 Good Italian food, good Indian food. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:25.360 Trying to tell you, lady Vans, bring your wife. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:31.960 On that note, imagine being sandwich where you are in 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.239 between two aries. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.719 That that is what it feels like when you're around Claudia. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.159 If you want to say, you'd like to thank the 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.400 academy after you get out from the middle on it, Okay, we. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.039 Dream it should be for you. You gotta fire around, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.400 you know, and I know I know everybody likes being rammed. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.479 You got two rams, that's right, big, that's right. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.320 Who don't like a ramming? 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:59.200 All capital letters like that truck ran Dorothy. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:06.960 Horns too like yes, like they can't like when they 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.960 can't go all the way around, can't to this. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.599 Hope you guys are joining your Fridays as much as 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:20.640 the two of us are. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.200 But listen, don't be sad. We will be back on Monday. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.440 So you've been I think we're gonna be a time 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:28.920 on Monday. 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.800 We are going to be on time every Monday. Maybe 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:37.000 we'll see how the week breaks us. But as announced 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:42.800 this past Monday, due to the overwhelming demand, we are 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:48.279 here to discuss the latest episode of The Braxtons and 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:56.520 just in general discussing the season overall. This is the 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.760 second okay season of The Braxtons, because prior to that, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:05.520 they had I think quadruple ten seasons of The Braxton 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:11.080 Family Values, which is the longest running black family reality 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.480 show in the world, so they took some time off. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:16.880 The show came back last year. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:24.120 This is season two of The Braxtons and it features Twanda, Tamar, Tony, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.800 and Trina. As we all know, the great Tracy has 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:34.480 passed away, and yes, rest in peace, Tracy, and let's 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:35.440 just get right into it. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:40.600 Listen. This season it's unhinged. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:46.200 It's like nothing I ever expected anticipated, and to be 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.480 honest with you, even wanted to see you know, when 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:50.640 it came to The Braxtons. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.600 I'll speak for myself. I'd love to get your thoughts. Obviously, guys, I. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.800 Fell in love with this show because how funny they were, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.160 how they would sing a song on. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.840 At the drop of a dime, how. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.520 They would have funny commentary when it comes to the mother. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.160 You know, they made up a song called a dingling song, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.840 they made up a song called Daddy, they made up 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.000 songs on the spot. They were funny, and yes there 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.760 was always drama, but it was never drama to the 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:24.240 point of what I'm seeing this season, and it is very, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.080 very tough to watch. So Dustin, I'll start with you. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.520 When you learned that this season was coming back, were 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.160 you excited that you thought, Okay, we're going to get 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.520 back to what we were introduced to on the show, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.160 which is, look, a group of sisters who are talented, funny, 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.920 have chemistry. Yes, they fight, argue like siblings do, but 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.240 you know we now get to like laugh again. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.600 Well, listen, I was happy to see To answer your question, yeah, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.160 I was happy to see them return, right before A 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.520 few A bit different of a reason. These are black 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.760 women who mean a lot to the world, mean a 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:05.240 lot to the three of us, mean a lot to music, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.920 mean a lot to television now right, And so I'm 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.040 a person who you know, I support the oars, I'm 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:11.960 a patron, I support the all rights. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.840 So I want the show to continue. I want them to. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.040 Continue on making money and income and their own rights, 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.080 and I want them to I wanted to move forward, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.079 especially after the passing of Tracy. This show was literally 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.880 titled after their family name. First it was Braxton Family Values. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.800 Now it's called The Braxtons. Similar to the change that 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.319 Keeping Up with the Kardashians did when they switched from 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.040 E to Hulu and became the Kardashians versus Keeping Up 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.800 with the Kardashians. It's kind of the same pattern, but 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.400 this ain't it. So I was happy to see them 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.640 come back, but I was not happy with what I 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.120 saw once they did come back. For years, we've seen 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.240 riffs between the sisters for years. We've seen them have 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.760 challenges in trying to have a peaceful relationship with Tamar. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.320 Each of them individually have challenges with Tamar. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:05.960 We watched that. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.240 We watched Tony flat out tell us, Hey, if they 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.760 were not my sisters, we probably would not be friends. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.120 We've seen all these things. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.000 And so after Tracy passed away, which was a devastating 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.040 loss to them. I have siblings, you know I would 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.960 be gutted. Carlos, you have siblings, Claudia, you do as well. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.920 And so after Tracy's lost, you would think that they 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:33.040 would be motivated by a desire to unify, to find 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.280 some sort of bridge and bond even in this late 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.040 stage in their lives. But they can't do it. And 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.520 we can break down the regions why as we move forward. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.400 But to answer your first question, yes, I was happy 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:45.600 to see them come back. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.679 A man. I didn't. I didn't watch the show before. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:53.280 I wanted. 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.640 You know, I've had you know, me and Tamar have 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.360 had a very tumultuous relationship, but we're say that we're 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.840 actually in a good place now. We spent a month 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:07.280 together in a house shooting college. Hill mentioned about this 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.599 show that she's like, she wasn't fucking with it. She 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.440 says she didn't want to go back. She was just 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:12.920 gonna be like a friend of the show. And I 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.319 was like, how can you be it for like, it's 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.920 such a big part of it, you know what I mean? Yeah, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.600 it's it doesn't seem like it'd be fun for any 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.720 of them. Like again, like I mentioned before, reality being draining. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.400 This seems like ten times more draining than would be 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:30.000 with people that you're not friends with, you know, like 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.360 at least on a reality show with like housewives whatever. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.800 You you can actually separate, Like when the four months 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.559 of filming is up. It's like, Mitch, I'll see right, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.920 I'll see you when we get renewed. And I'm making 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.040 several hundred thousand dollars if not a million with this. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:47.280 It's like it's ugly and then it's not over for them, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:52.080 like they family events, funerals, weddings. I mean I was 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.959 invited to Tauana's wedding and tam I wasn't she wasn't dead. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.360 I was like, yet felt bad, you know, like I 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.800 was like, damn, like and I wonder if it's because 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.640 of the reality show making, you know what I mean, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.520 stressing out the family dynamics that maybe wouldn't be there 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.800 if they want, because everybody got to pop off a 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.400 little bit extra for TV. Oh I'm not about to 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.360 let a bitch read me down, even if she is 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.960 my sister, you know. And it was so ugly this episode. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.920 And then I went back and watched the episode before 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.320 and I'm like, I will say this, I really love 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.800 me some Tony Braxton. I've always loved me some Tony Brox. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.679 Yeah, the heavyweight, the littlest. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.400 One talking about I'm a heavyweight exactly. I like that. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:37.240 Yeah, I like the sisters period. I'm sure we'll dig 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.079 a little bit deeper. As you can see, Carlos is 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.400 having some sort of technical difficulties right now, but he'll 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.640 rejoin us shortly and I listen. I like the Braxts, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.640 but the Braxtons have got to grow up at a 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.439 certain point. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.240 Okay, the childish antics. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.160 That were fun to watch in the beginning, like Carlos mentioned, 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:00.599 singing them songs and telling stories and being playful, that 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.760 kind of got old fast for me because these are 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.680 not We're not watching people in their twenties. We're not 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.000 even watching people in their thirties. These are people in 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.560 their forties, late forties, fifties in some cases, And so 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.920 the playful nature of everything being a joke is just 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.600 a little unrealistic at a certain point. And these women 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:25.800 have very complex lives that they could easily feel what 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.720 is it forty eight minutes or however many minutes it 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.959 is when a show is an hour long, they could 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.800 easily fill up that time, fill up those blocks with 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.160 things to show and things to talk about. But the 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.720 focus seems to always be on the bullshit. You know 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.080 what I'm saying? Somebody always pissed somebody else to fuck off. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.680 It's always a damn problem. It's always some sort of 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:52.440 disrespect or talking about somebody behind they damn back. It's 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.160 always that you know what I'm saying, and when it's 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:59.520 not that they're acting silly and so for me, although 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.680 I want to watch the show go on and on forever, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.200 like it just lost a little bit of the connection 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.760 for me, but I don't want it to stop. I 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.520 wanted to still be available for people to watch. I 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:10.920 just got sick of seeing that shit. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.080 It seems like they may love each other, but they 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.640 don't like each other very much. They do not like 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.840 each other. They can't stand each other in some regards, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.960 and it's like I see a lot of what about me? 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.280 What about my feelings and your feeling? But what about 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.760 my feelings and how you hurt me? And you know, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.680 it's hard to see past that, like to how someone 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.400 else might be feeling if it's just like all about 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:37.040 what you think. I don't see this show. How the 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.960 show can go on with this level of animosity. And 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:44.120 this is what episode. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:47.160 Four, three three, I believe I think this was three okay, three, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.080 let me see, let me check that before we get 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:54.600 to line. Yeah, it was episode. 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.040 Four. You're right, it was four. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:03.360 Watch watch can street them like if every episode is 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:08.280 no one's having fun, because imagine if what the producer 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.280 is going through. If every episode none of them are 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.360 having fun, it's just on ten arguing I don't see 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:14.480 how the show can continue. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.400 Yeah, Carlo is so sick of it. He got off 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:22.080 the damn screen. Carlos cut off se So listen. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.160 The spirit definitely blocked me from that. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.800 So let's let's just get into what happened in this 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:33.240 episode that their tonight. So what we did see was 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:38.560 the continuation of this sister's dinner. So at the sister's dinner, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:46.640 Tamar who decided to bring on her brother's daughter. So 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.840 I want to make sure you guys know that Ashley, 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.960 their niece, is the daughter of their brother, who has 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.560 never been involved with the show. He may have seen 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.200 him once or twice, maybe five times the duration of 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:02.160 both shows. 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:02.480 Being on the air. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:10.000 His niece made posts about something she experienced in her 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:11.760 childhood teenage years. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:12.720 I'm not sure exactly. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.240 She did allude to the fact that it was something 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.400 in regards to an aunt's former husband, but I don't believe. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.680 I want to make sure legally I don't say the 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.200 name because Ashley never said the person's name. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:37.359 Right enough picture for us, Yes. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:40.840 And Tamar decided to have her a part of her 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.800 live podcast to talk about it. Tamar received a cease 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:51.560 and desist from the family attorney. According to Tamar, she 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.880 walks into the dinner, she opens up a vanilla envelope. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.400 The ladies are saying they did not authorize this, they 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:00.760 had no idea it was happening. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:02.520 They said their name wasn't on it. 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.760 Tamar is livid because she said she was served at 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.800 her doorstep, whereas the place that she lives with her 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.840 minor child logan and she's very hot, she's very heated, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.520 and from there they're denying that they had anything to 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.600 do with this. What I will say is this just 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.760 to really talk about cease and desist. 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.680 Yes, okay. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.840 A cease and desist is a form of documentation. It's 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:35.640 a legal documentation where you send that to prevent somebody 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:41.280 from saying things, detailing things, repeating things that you. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:46.000 Believe is associated with you that isn't true. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.840 And it's sort of like a it's a threat of 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:56.200 if you do proceed with this, I will take legal action, 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:03.840 and legal action is a form of a lawsuit. Okay, yeah, 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.359 which is why Tamar said, you guys are trying to 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:07.400 impact my business. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.040 Claudia, what are your thoughts on that? 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.399 Do you do you think that the sisters had no 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:18.680 idea My sisters, I mean Tony, Tawanda and Trina, that 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.320 those three had nothing to do with a cease and 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:30.159 desist even coming Tamar's way, nor giving her address away 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.480 when she said that her address is not even listed publicly. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.159 No, I think that they someone knows what they're not 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:37.720 going to say because they know her temper. They know 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.160 it's going to be a big argument like who else 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.760 would do it? You know what I mean? I will 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.320 say I've had to send seas and sist letters and 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.280 it does have to trace back to a lawyer, right, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.359 and you contact the lawyer and you ask them like, 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.720 who's this coming from? That that's what they can they 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.440 have that right to ask? Yeah, I do think it's 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:56.880 someone that. 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:57.520 Has a lawyer. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.520 Let's ask the question, does the lawyer have the right 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.320 to disclose who it came from? 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.400 I'm much with the lawyer's on that, but I've always 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.200 had my lawyer say it with his chest here, tell 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:15.000 that bitch is from me? Yeah it is. I'm like, yeah, 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.399 it's from me. Like why you send it? You know, 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.080 like because I think in the seasons, sister, you have 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.200 to like kind of say, like I mean, in mind 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.960 I've sent out. It's basically like stop saying this and 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.960 give an example of what they're saying that it's like 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.359 false or defamatory because you're threatening a seasons. This is 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.199 a warning shot for a lawsuit. So you document that 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.400 you tried first and then before you proceed to a lawsuit. Right, 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.800 you tried first before you because you can't just come 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:41.920 out the gate with a law so you have to 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.320 least try to give him some kind of warning. And yeah, 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.280 I don't know how they don't know who is from 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.120 because it's always been very clear who is from when 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.280 when I've said one out or when I received one. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.360 I got one when I was in real house, Ius 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:59.600 of Atlanta from your girl man. But we weren't lying, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.240 so it we pat it on mind. 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:14.920 Look at so much, look look Claudia so much from 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:15.920 the Halloween costume. 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:21.160 Right, okay, just tonight, go ahead, that's it. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:27.959 So okay, let's zoom out here, right, Number one, A ceasing, 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:31.800 de cease and desist come and go every single day. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:33.760 When you work in media, when you work in the 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.280 business of opinion, when you work in an area where 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:41.720 people's information can be commodified in some sort of way, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.560 and then you have access to it and to disperse it. 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.959 You could are Are you are vulnerable. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.640 To receive as ceased and desist from somebody who didn't 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:50.560 like what you had to say? 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.240 Right, That's something that happens. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.240 My question before we tap further into that, I have 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.679 a producer question for you, Carlos. So do you believe 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.960 that the cease and desist was issued from it? Said 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.320 it came She said that by she, I meaning Tamar Braxton, 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.800 said that the cease and desists came from their family, 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:10.879 the Braxton family attorney. 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.120 Right, yeah, is that deep? 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:22.000 But but sorry, Seria had activated on my computer anyway. 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.920 So do you think that the production company that the 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:31.200 we TV, the network, or maybe some of the producers 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.800 of the show I wanted to interfere with that conversation 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:39.520 taking place between Tamar and her niece Ashley Braxton, or 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:40.840 do you think it would have had to. 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.720 Come from one of the. 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.000 Sisters, listen, that's a great question. 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.120 I emphatically do not believe that the production had anything 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.600 to do with sitting Tamor's season assists to stop this 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.040 from being on top of conversation. And the reason why 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.560 I say that is because, I mean, number one, it's unethical. 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.080 You don't get involved in altering the realcy of something 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.320 in the legal context. 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:09.200 Secondly, they the production company filmed Ashley to Tamar about this. 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.679 When it comes to the season the sith look, I 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:22.160 always look at things as as behavior right right, and 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:27.879