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Speaker 1: Duel More Ways to win. Hi, everybody, Welcome in to

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Speaker 1: our Monday morning podcast. A giddy Matt Mosley who covers

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Baylor football. Oh good, hell, he'll be

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Speaker 1: unbearable this week. He's going to be joining us in

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Speaker 1: ten minutes. Well, let me first talk Patriots Browns. Shocked

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Speaker 1: by the outcome now, I say shocked. The Jags beat

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Speaker 1: the Bills and Carolina destroyed Arizona. I'm not shocked by much,

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Speaker 1: but it was the way the trouncing and the way

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Speaker 1: it came to fruition. I said this about six weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Baker's career is going to be boiled down to about

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Speaker 1: a six seven game stretch when he plays against his peers.

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Speaker 1: And I said, he's going to play against Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Mac Jones, and Lamar Jackson. Twice. He was

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Speaker 1: not as good as Justin Herbert. He was completely outdueled

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Speaker 1: by Mac Jones today, He's got to at least split

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Speaker 1: those games. Andrew Barry. This GM will not make the

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Speaker 1: mistake the Eagles did with Wentz or the Rams did

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Speaker 1: with Goff. He did not draft Baker Mayfield. He is

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Speaker 1: showing patients and this was an interesting game. Second time

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Speaker 1: against Belichick. Second time Baker plays poorly. He's twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Now you know the numbers on Belichick twenty five year

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Speaker 1: old quarterbacks and younger he owns. Okay, Baker's now twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Baker's got a lot of snaps in this league. He has,

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Speaker 1: even without his top two running backs, much better offensive

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Speaker 1: personnel than mac Jones had, and mac Jones was clearly

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Speaker 1: the superior quarterback. This is my question about Baker. Right

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Speaker 1: tackles out running backs out. How are you going to

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Speaker 1: do on the road? Not well? Listen, I think mac

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Speaker 1: Jones and Baker are both Minivans Max just the deluxe

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Speaker 1: version with Wi Fi. And what mac Jones is doing,

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Speaker 1: you see this linear progression. He is getting better every

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Speaker 1: two weeks. I mean you're literally seeing it since the

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Speaker 1: second half against the Houston Texans. This kid looks like

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Speaker 1: he's been in this league for several years. That's how

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Speaker 1: I felt about Justin Herbert as a rookie. You were

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Speaker 1: seeing leaps every two and three weeks. With Baker, it's

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Speaker 1: a roller coaster. One of the kids I always liked,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, it's a roller coaster. The really good ones

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Speaker 1: can struggle early, they plateau for a couple three or

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Speaker 1: four weeks, then they start making these little jumps and

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Speaker 1: little jumps right now, Baker, Mac Jones, Andrew Berry, GM

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Speaker 1: Brown's who do you draft? There is no question who

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Speaker 1: he drafts. It's not a question we need to ask anymore.

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Speaker 1: Baker playing with a lead, playing with a full deck,

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Speaker 1: is a very competent quarterback. I mean, people went crazy

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Speaker 1: last week he had fourteen completions. But Baker trailing against

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Speaker 1: an elite coach or at defense, missing a right tackle,

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Speaker 1: We don't need to keep asking these questions. Darnold can't

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Speaker 1: And I also think we got to give credit here

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Speaker 1: I start looking around the AFC. I think we have

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Speaker 1: It's nuts in the AFC. We knew Brady would win

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Russell Wilson. I've been told by people

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. If Green Bay moved Jordan Love got a

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Speaker 1: surprised by the way. Aaron got some really really ugly press.

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Speaker 1: Not being vaccinated. It made him look too hip for

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Speaker 1: the NFL resign with the Packers, make an announcement I'm

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Speaker 1: back right after all that negative press. What's the one

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Speaker 1: thing he could do? He'd be supported, he'd have a

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Speaker 1: his career like Farv and be choppy. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: this is the way it's gonna work. It's not the

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Speaker 1: think Russell Wilson, on the other hand, folks, it's getting worse.

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Speaker 1: That is a story. I'm fifty fifty on Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: lot of suitors. I'm excited to watch OBJ with the

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Speaker 1: tough matchup. They're different McCaffrey, Cam, that defense, Matt Rule,

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Speaker 1: I took four dogs and the Dallas Cowboys. Let's bring in.

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Speaker 1: Mosley has been covering the Cowboys forever, Baylor alum, So

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Speaker 1: I poured my first cocktail. I'm not saying it's my last,

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Speaker 1: Mosley because I knew I don't pick favorites much in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But you could kind of feel this one.

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn his old team, little chip on his shoulder.

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Speaker 1: You know it was funny, Matt, because it's not that

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Speaker 1: Dallas lost. They were so physically dominated by Denver. You

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Speaker 1: Cowboys fans is I think it's a freak out. It's

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Speaker 1: a little money away from him. I think I think

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore would be great at Washington, but you know,

427
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, you're Baylor and Texas football. I know my

428
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: Washington and I can't divulge who it's going to be.

429
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: But a West Coast coach currently coaching is going to

430
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: be off for the job at Washington, and I have

431
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: to stop right there. Anyway, We'll get to your college

432
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: stuff in a second. I know you're not the only

433
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: one breaking You're not the only one breaking stories here. Yay,

434
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about very plugged in, Yes, very PAC twelve

435
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: plugged in. Of course, the PAC twelve now is like

436
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: intermural football compared to you know, some of these conferences.

437
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about this. I've always had

438
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: this belief, like I have certain beliefs to be true.

439
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: Young teams can't win NBA finals wh because the refs

440
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: swallow their whistles and more physical, thicker, older players push

441
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: around kids. We saw it last year Milwaukee with the Sons.

442
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: We saw it with the Lakers in the bubble against Miami.

443
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: That's one of my theories. You can't win a championship

444
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: as a young team in the NBA because the ref

445
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: swallow their whistles, big advantage older, stronger players in baseball,

446
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: can't win a World Series of a bad bullpen. You

447
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: can't be given up runs in the seventh, eighth, ninth,

448
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: can't win in the NFL. To win a Super Bowl,

449
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: you need like six players minimum, six to seven players

450
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: having great years, like playmakers. So I'm gonna give you

451
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: the Dallas players. I think you're playmakers all right. Zeke

452
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: has become a playmaker again, Ceedee Lamb has become a

453
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: playmaker again. Michael Parsons as a playmaker, Treyvon Diggs as

454
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: a playmaker, Randy Gregorig is a playmaker, and I would

455
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: say Dak is a playmaker. I don't know the health

456
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: of DeMarcus Cousins, but I think Dallas is now, in

457
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: my opinion, is now qualifying as a Super Bowl team

458
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: where they have like six guys that could make a

459
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: play against the Rams against Brady Ceedee, Lamb Zeke, Dak,

460
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, Treyvon Diggs, absolutely, Randy Gregory, and you know

461
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: potentially DeMarcus Lawrence if he whenever he comes back. Am

462
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: I'm missing anybody? Is there an unsung hero on this

463
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: Dallas team? Well, you know, Schultz has been extreme. I

464
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: mean he's come on and he has become somewhat of

465
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: a weapon. It's not every week, but Dak loves him.

466
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: And I think Pollard's a playmaker. I mean, I think

467
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: he's just flat out you know, you get him in

468
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: space and he can do so many things. I mean,

469
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: this is a team that, honestly compared to a lot

470
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: of these other teams is I think loaded in. Zeke

471
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: even said something to that effect today. We're that team,

472
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: but we just have we can't afford to have these

473
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like what happened to him last week.

474
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: But no, I think I think you pretty much. I

475
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: think you covered it and um, and I think that's

476
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: enough to do something pretty special if you have that

477
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: kind of um, if you have that many playmakers, and

478
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I think they're UM. I just sensed it today after

479
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: the game. I think there was a certain amount of

480
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: embarrassment anger, and then Fangio got them fired up. I

481
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: mean Vick saying, I don't know, you know, everybody, nobody's

482
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: played them the right way, and from a coaching standpoint,

483
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: all the coaches took a little offense to that, and

484
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: the the Atlanta Falcons had to bear the brunt of that. Okay, Matt,

485
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: I look at the Cowboys schedule. It really works in

486
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: their favor. I think Dallas can end up as the

487
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC. So they get Patrick

488
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: Mahomes next, and he's off right, it's a perfect time

489
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: to get Patrick Mahomes. Then they host the Raiders interim

490
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: coach a little bit in disarray right now. Then they

491
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: get oh Lord. Then they're going to get the Saints

492
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: at home, so they're facing their number two quarterback. They

493
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: go to Washington for Taylor Heineck, they face Daniel Jones

494
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: on the road. They get Taylor Heineke at home. Then

495
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: it's Kyler Murray at home and Jalen hurts, I'm not right.

496
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: Let's say they lose to Arizona. This has a chance

497
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: to be at number one seed, right right, Yeah, yeah,

498
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: I think absolutely, And for whatever reason, earlier this season,

499
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: they had a lot of things falling right for them

500
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: with key players being out, and you just mentioned some

501
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 1: of them, some of these teams that are already down

502
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: to their second quarterback. The thing that makes this team

503
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: different from even some of the teams that got on

504
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: a role is that they're just deeper. And you've talked

505
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: about it some of their playmakers, but I'm just saying

506
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: even on down the roster. There was a team they had,

507
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: it was pretty good several years ago in to Garrett

508
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: and they went to Atlanta and like one guy got

509
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: seven sacks against them. He went off and got a

510
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: nice contract out of it. I mean he had like

511
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: literally had six or seven sacks in one game against

512
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: some backup tackle. And now their their depth is good.

513
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Tyren Smith is still a great player, but

514
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: he's banged up all the time like this is. You know,

515
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: he sees NBA players that you're lucky to get forty

516
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: games out of them, You're I think he's entered the

517
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: stage in his career where you'd be extremely fortunate to

518
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: get ten games a year. He's still good when he's healthy.

519
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: He said, he's about as good as there is out there.

520
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: But what they're but they're yeah, they're their on line

521
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: is I mean, for the most part, they can be

522
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: really really good. This I think I think you're onto

523
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: something and I think they showed that that that game

524
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: against Denver was just one horrible clunker, which does happen. Yeah, okay,

525
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: so I can't bring you on. We both have an

526
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: incredible passion for college football. So I'm gonna give you

527
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: my speel and you can just push back on it.

528
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Baylor. They've done very well against Oklahoma. They're

529
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: the only team in the country that shuts down Oklahoma consistently. Now,

530
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: that offense, so three years in a row, I think

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00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: two or three years in a row. So everybody wanted

532
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly out, notre names back to being a top

533
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: five program. Nick Saban first year lost to Louisiana Monroe

534
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: with Carson Palmer and Troy Polamalu. Pete Carroll went six

535
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: and six in his first year. This stuff's hard, Harbaugh,

536
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: one more win this year, we'll have a ten win

537
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: season for the fourth time. We love getting rid of coaches.

538
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: But I look at sark and outside of the Iowa

539
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: State game, the offense is not the issue. He inherited

540
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: some talent, most of it on the offensive side. So

541
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: my takeaway is there's a lot of heat in him

542
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: right now. It's the longest losing streak since whatever the fifties.

543
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: And my takeaway is, Okay, I've watched Pete Carroll and

544
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: Saban have embarrassing first years or embarrassing losses or do

545
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: you believe Sark looks over his skis and there are

546
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: people inside Texas that are thinking, we whift. Yeah, I

547
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: think the we whift has already started. That doesn't mean

548
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: he can't turn it around. But there are even people

549
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: who are saying, well, Herman, Herman was done better than this. Herman,

550
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: it's so difficult to get along with. Tom's hard to

551
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: get along with. He was such he could be to

552
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: the media and everything. The thing you have to say

553
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: about Sark and you know him, is he's maintained as

554
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: cool in his poise. But something that I don't know

555
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: if Saban had to deal with, and I don't know,

556
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, if some of these other coaches had to

557
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: deal with. There's just some goofiness that happens. You know.

558
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: There was a thing about the monkey and one of

559
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: his assistant coaches and the stipper that mean, Okay, so

560
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: that happens, and then some coach goes crazy on a

561
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: bus and somehow they decide to rally around that. The

562
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: only push Black I would give you is that Kansas

563
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: is a historically horror god program. And so I guess

564
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, at least when Saban did that

565
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: or Pete did it, at the start, they were taking

566
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: over a program that had really really fallen off. And people,

567
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the chancellor, I'm talking about the

568
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: board of regents. They don't and I'm sure Alabama is

569
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: somewhat the same. They don't view it as Oh, Herman

570
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: had run us into the ground. It's if we get

571
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: the right coach, we should be able to turn this

572
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: around quickly. They always think it's right around the corner.

573
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're not going to fire him after

574
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: this season. But he doesn't have as much of a

575
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: He just doesn't have much of a runway here. You know,

576
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: I've always had this feeling about two programs in the country.

577
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: After a while, Matt, we all are what we are,

578
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: the two programs in this country that just don't win

579
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: a lot. And even when they've had great runs, they've

580
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: been quick. Are USC in Texas And I tell people

581
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: this all the time. They're glamour programs. So when they win,

582
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: the networks love it. They put their games on and

583
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: they lose good assistance and they get into their fields.

584
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean, God, when USC was winning with Pete Carroll

585
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: sixty minutes was doing specials on them. They were the

586
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: talk of Los Angeles. And I tell people this that

587
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles, they just they can never they

588
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: could never do what Alabama is doing. It's just not

589
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: if you start looking at the Woody Hayzes and the

590
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Bowdens and these coaches that have had these twenty

591
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: five Joe Paternal thirty years stretches. USC is good for

592
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: about five years. Then the coach gets gassed up and

593
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: goes to the pros. John Robinson, Pete Carroll McKay. If

594
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: you're big in LA, it means the networks are looking

595
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: at you, the NFL's looking at you. If you're big

596
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: in Auburn, you're just big in Auburn. You're big in

597
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: the South. And I feel the same way about Texas.

598
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: Though I don't have the insight you do. Is that

599
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: Austin is cool. It's that everybody's favorite place in broadcasting

600
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: to go to a game as La and Austin. Everybody

601
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: loves it. Texas hospitality, music, food, It's one of the

602
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: great medium sized cities in America. If a coach is good,

603
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: they get gassed up. It's also I think USC and

604
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Texas they're kind of glamour programs. They tend to be.

605
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: They're a little finesse. They always feel like, you know,

606
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: whereas like when Obama's good, it's about the it's about

607
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: the intensity and the toughness. When Texas and USA are good,

608
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: they're sleck, they're fast, they're athletic. You take me inside

609
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: of Texas because I just don't think they win as much.

610
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't win nearly as much as Oklahoma,

611
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: but I think they're often viewed in that same strata. Yeah, well,

612
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: because they're so into branding. That's all they talk about

613
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: that like it's going to enhance their brand to be

614
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: in there. NFL scouts for years, and I guess this

615
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: is still true, although they're just not getting that many

616
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: players drafted. They felt, even under mac Brown, that the

617
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: culture there, like the facilities were so gorgeous and the

618
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: players were so pampered. And again, Alabama's got great facilities.

619
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Clempson has unbelievableacilities, Baylor has great facilities. But there is

620
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: some sort of culture there that if you talk to

621
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: enough NFL scouts, they'll go, we're leary of these guys

622
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: because of the way they come out. Now, Charlie Strong

623
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: tried to change that and he had, like the players,

624
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't wear ear rings anymore, and they had to

625
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: have certainly they couldn't wear ball caps in class. And

626
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: he tried to go like way old school and that

627
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: didn't work either. They didn't and Charlie didn't get much time,

628
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: and that thing just wasn't going anywhere. So there is

629
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: a finesse is not a bad way to put it.

630
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: There's a there's a culture of softness that comes with them,

631
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: and I think the maddening thing to their fans and

632
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: they'll think, I'm, you know, hitting with his sharp stick.

633
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: But they look at Art Briles years ago, they look

634
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: at Matt Rule after that, they look at dave A. Randa,

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Speaker 1: who aren't recruiting people in Texas's stratosphere, yet they're winning.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is they know what they're looking for,

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Speaker 1: and they know how to develop people. Gary Patterson used

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Speaker 1: to be unbelievable to that TCU and he got kind

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Speaker 1: of still and you know his time has ended there.

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Speaker 1: But it's I think that's they're always looking for the shortcut.

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Speaker 1: You know what the short cut for Texas was. Here's

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Speaker 1: a guy in Sark that is you know, they're one

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Speaker 1: in national titles Albama unbelievable offensive mind, that's what we want.

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Speaker 1: We want his offense. They don't, they don't think about it.

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Speaker 1: Is Sark a great fit? What do we think about Texas?

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Speaker 1: There's no The thing I would tell you about Texas

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Speaker 1: is and like California's got great Pennsylvania, all these places,

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Speaker 1: Georgia they got great high school football. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: saying it's the best high school football, which it probably is,

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Speaker 1: but the coaches have such a togetherness and they protect

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Speaker 1: their own that Sark has to overcome all sorts of stuff. Now,

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Speaker 1: what he has for him is he's at the flagship university.

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Speaker 1: But when he goes to those big six a great

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Speaker 1: high schools, the Allens of the world. In Texas high school,

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Speaker 1: they're immediately like outsider, outsider, outsider, like Matt Rule was

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Speaker 1: smart enough to immediately hire some of the greatest high

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Speaker 1: school coaches in Texas and get him onto his staff,

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Speaker 1: because the Texas High School Coaches Association is one of

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Speaker 1: the strongest organizations in all of sports, maybe in all

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Speaker 1: of companies or whatever. But I'm just saying you can't.

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Speaker 1: So I just think Sark is in a tough spot

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Speaker 1: and things have gone against him, and I hope he

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Speaker 1: does have time to go recruit. But think about it,

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Speaker 1: he goes from Alabama. I just don't even think he

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Speaker 1: had a great feel for what he was getting into.

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Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, we wanted urban, we can't get urban.

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Speaker 1: Let's go hire the guy from Alabama. I think he

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Speaker 1: still doesn't have a clue what he's in for right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mosley, I got Cowboys. Congratulations on Bailer. I know, listen,

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Speaker 1: I follow you on Twitter. You get very excited. It's

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Speaker 1: not a huge national brand, but it's a nice stadium

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Speaker 1: on a river. I don't know what the river is.

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Speaker 1: It looks very idyllic. I'm very happy for you. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't name six Baylor players, but I'm very happy for you.

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Speaker 1: And this is a you know, Baylor. Is Doctor Pepper

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Speaker 1: still based there? Is that they're still there. Big thing.

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Speaker 1: It's where it's from. It's where it's at, the Doctor

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Speaker 1: Pepper Museum. Now, are you Baptist? It's a Baptist university?

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Speaker 1: I am yes, okay, yeah, So did you go there

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Speaker 1: because of that? Or did you just like the girls?

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Speaker 1: Why why did you go there? Try to convert me

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Speaker 1: here from Baptist order, m B Why you came in?

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking the Mormons. I kind of enjoyed what they

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Speaker 1: had to offer. Um, the I did marry a gorgeous

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Speaker 1: tridult from Baylor. But I am a fourth generation. My

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Speaker 1: great grandparents UM went to Baylor, and so it's it's

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Speaker 1: a little like that. It gets in the family. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, my daughter, is it private? It's to go there?

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Speaker 1: It is private. Eleven thousand people eleven twelve thousand, yeah,

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Speaker 1: somewhere in there. It's getting larger all the time. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually up to like fourteen or fifteen

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Speaker 1: thousand now, which yeah, is bigger than like SMU, TCU,

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Speaker 1: all those schools. So it's pretty pretty decent size private school. Well,

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Speaker 1: you should be very proud of yourself. Your school is good.

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Speaker 1: Now it's got things going on. You've got the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the longhorns are just free falling, and this all for you.

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Speaker 1: You know in Dallas, when when you have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a negative longhorn vibe, how does that play? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. I mean I've had producers that have wished

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't constantly poke them with a sharp stick. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's the whole Well, you know a lot of long

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Speaker 1: horns listen. But I think it's fine. There's enough people

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Speaker 1: people from outside our state sort of think sometimes what

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Speaker 1: everybody in Texas roots for longhorns, and that is absolutely

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Speaker 1: not the truth. But people much like you know, the

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Speaker 1: Yankees or other places, other teams, the Cowboys, people do

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Speaker 1: kind of loved it hate on Texas, and they give

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Speaker 1: people a lot of reason too. I mean there's there's

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Speaker 1: I've got great friends that are when University of Texas

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Speaker 1: there's just a level and there may be a school

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Speaker 1: in California or Portland area where you come from that

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Speaker 1: you could say this about. There is a there's a

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Speaker 1: level of arrogance that comes comes with that particular school.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of awesome people come out of there too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, buddy, great seeing you. Yeah. I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Last part. It's too bad you're gonna edit it all out.

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Speaker 1: I don't edit shit, man, we let it. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: go with this. Matt Moseley at the Volume. Thanks buddy,

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Speaker 1: you bet, you bet. I'll share more about the Baptist

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Speaker 1: faith next time at the Volume. Sports YouTube channel, Twitter, Instagram,

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