WEBVTT - Erick Sermon | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

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<v Speaker 1>What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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<v Speaker 1>right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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<v Speaker 2>the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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<v Speaker 2>at Drink Champs.

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<v Speaker 1>Big with the year Memphis. I'm back, Gaddy niggas.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice the difference, just more chron present, no stones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, y'all you already know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Back with another one exclusive rock Solid by yours truly

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis Bleak. And I tell you everybody sitting on this platform,

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<v Speaker 2>in one way or another, is my brother and number

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<v Speaker 2>two they Solid and this man right here is a legend,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most part of one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>illness rap groups in history that I was an ultra

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<v Speaker 2>fan of growing up, and y'all have no idea. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be down with the hit squad. Let's welcome

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Sermon to the building. My Jesus, what's up, my brother?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Before we start? You know, the whole world, say Eric Sherman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fat Joe yo, he said Sherman. But he called me

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<v Speaker 2>that I love him slide yeah right right.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe everybody say that.

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<v Speaker 2>The producer, you know, my man Cheat and my good

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<v Speaker 2>carist who run the show. She was like, listen, bleak, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot call that man Sherman in his face.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to say certain.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's how you say it though, blieve you've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying it like that's how I say it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a I make it easy to say. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a church church sermon. It's full the same way, so

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the sermon that's coming from a pastor

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<v Speaker 2>and people get it like that.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd be like, okay, now it makes it easier. But

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<v Speaker 3>you and Joe say Sherman. It doesn't matter. That's so

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<v Speaker 3>you're my fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like listen for listen, doesn't bleak, like when

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<v Speaker 3>you anybody that wants to see me, who wants to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to me, or like even in this is the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the biggest blessing ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I came in this game in November nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so it's twenty twenty five crazy. I was nine, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so to be here and still be able to what

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<v Speaker 2>they call relevancy, you know what I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying now, So you're a legend. You relevant?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any time, But I understand that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you respect it.

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<v Speaker 3>But when people hear the legend name, they give you respect,

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<v Speaker 3>shake your hand on. But they don't mean they want

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<v Speaker 3>to fuck with you. I mean they want you to

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<v Speaker 3>come to their office. They want to do a deal

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<v Speaker 3>with you. They want to break bread with you, like

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking for the next but you never But you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't say that because you're want of the legends that

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<v Speaker 2>been pivoted though you didn't just rat.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, But but what I'm saying, But luckily I'm

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<v Speaker 3>saying that I got the relevancy because I would be

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<v Speaker 3>like the other one of my colleagues where they're not

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<v Speaker 3>doing the business I'm doing because people respect them, but

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<v Speaker 3>they don't want to do business with them, because what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing at this moment?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right? Yeah, no, think you make the beats.

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<v Speaker 2>You was the management, You put the crew together, the production, like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, bro, you had a lot of different talents

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<v Speaker 2>than just yes staying on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, man, you know what I'm saying, because you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be able.

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<v Speaker 3>To set it second job because this is what he

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<v Speaker 3>took over to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>So this baby, that's right here is where the listen man.

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<v Speaker 2>Tangible goods.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>You can talk about it too, But something that you

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<v Speaker 3>can actually touch, that's right, say, is this right here?

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<v Speaker 2>In alcohol? Nobody has loss? No, I don't give how

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<v Speaker 2>bad it is. I tell people all the time. One

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<v Speaker 2>thing you never see go out of business is a

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<v Speaker 2>liquor store, right exactly? They always do an insurance. Can

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<v Speaker 2>they burn it down?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>So this right here was where again I tell people

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<v Speaker 3>too at this they always ask me the question. Besides

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<v Speaker 3>me in my publisher, I own it, so I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make money for however long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right, yo, talking about that? How you feel about

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<v Speaker 2>these guys selling their catalog.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the gods are selling their catalogs to Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>You got.

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<v Speaker 2>You just happen to be fortunate not to be able to.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're talking about the old or new either all

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<v Speaker 2>but the new. The new guys they know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lick to get money.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't care about you know what's in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the back ahead, about them turning forty, and whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>not that and this, And then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>you say, if you got a couple of million dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how fast it's been a million dollars quick,

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<v Speaker 3>like like people don't look at it's immediately quick, gone gone,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and then then if you ain't, if you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't people listen, you go, you go to prison because

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't file, not because you didn't pay. You didn't file,

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<v Speaker 3>so not even like you ducking that's why you get

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<v Speaker 3>in trouble at least file. But Uncle Sam is real.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna always be there, so you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>take care of them immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>That money is not yours.

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<v Speaker 3>So say if you've got a million, four hundred of

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars, it's not yours.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So that's in New York though you're in

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<v Speaker 1>New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Florida now I'm about two hundred of that

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<v Speaker 2>won't be yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, so niggas told me to. So you've been

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<v Speaker 3>down there for two years? Now, are you gonna switch

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<v Speaker 3>this it over? I'm like, eventually I might do it,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, we don't like Florida, Miami that too.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, Texas, that's why people went to Texas. There

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<v Speaker 3>to Texas, Nevada. Right, So so but anyway, the million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars two can go quick quick. So then if I

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<v Speaker 3>sell my publishing right now, I have to wait whatever amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Of years for me to get getting it back, get

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<v Speaker 1>it back.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the meantime, the money they gave me, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it might last a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>But now you don't get money for ten years. But

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<v Speaker 2>now my publishing check is not coming. That's right, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So me personally, I would never sell it. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>sell it. But you're fortunate too, So I ask the

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<v Speaker 1>question why.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why is the young one wants the money

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<v Speaker 3>up front so he could do what he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>do at the moment. The older one too needs that

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<v Speaker 3>money because stuff don't slow down or again, things ain't

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<v Speaker 3>the same.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking about even the guys who's selling the

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<v Speaker 2>publishing for one hundred million dollars. They caught that catalog.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad like everything, I'm not mad. I would

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<v Speaker 2>never yeah, but bleak man, I would never. I understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you blow a hundred million dollars, oh it's possible,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to look at them, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But people got blueprints now, nigga, Like, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>actually need?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike said something that was prolific. He said.

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<v Speaker 3>Once he stopped chasing the paper, he realized that more

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<v Speaker 3>money would get me a bigger car in a bigger house.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do nothing else. I can't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Once I take care of my face family because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't begre I can put the money away from my

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<v Speaker 3>family too. But also my life is shown and my

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<v Speaker 3>whatever I got and my publishing is theres too. But

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<v Speaker 3>my thing was though, bleak, you gotta go back though

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred man, you can leave it to your children.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, But you got a hundred million. You you're

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<v Speaker 3>saying you can spend it, but on.

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<v Speaker 1>What it bet'll be businesses? Because shit, but what do

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<v Speaker 1>you need? Who? Me? Personally?

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody, some rich men said that if you have twenty minute,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty million liquid.

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<v Speaker 1>Cash, you should be okay forever forever. That's right. So

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<v Speaker 1>why are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying to me I would never sell it because me,

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<v Speaker 2>I leave it to my kids, and my kids can

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<v Speaker 2>leave it to their kids. It's something that comes for

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<v Speaker 2>I got, I think about Mike Jack Got think about prints.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people like that's generational wealth. That one hundred million.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what if you don't do the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>where it won't be generation or it be right now

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<v Speaker 2>and listen convention.

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<v Speaker 3>The wealth Listen, Bleak is nine years younger than me,

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<v Speaker 3>right or whatever it is you said. I was, so

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<v Speaker 3>now you're younger than me. So my thing what he

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<v Speaker 3>just said, y'all is very very prolific building wealth. How

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<v Speaker 3>White America does.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like this.

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<v Speaker 3>If Oprah Rimpi is a billionaire, she's the only one.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no wealth that she goes over.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>They, the rob Childs and everybody that you see, may

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<v Speaker 3>sees knows are too. There is generations that the money

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<v Speaker 3>flows down, so we would never be able to contend

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<v Speaker 3>with them because we don't have generations.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of.

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<v Speaker 3>Our billionaires, all of them, if they don't do this,

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<v Speaker 3>then there's.

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<v Speaker 1>No generation wealth.

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<v Speaker 3>So I understand what you mean by the pass down,

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<v Speaker 3>but I thought the money too would give them the

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<v Speaker 3>pass down so they can be secure too. But you

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<v Speaker 3>really can't trust it, especially with my well, my five.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, you know this I got you might

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<v Speaker 1>run through that.

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<v Speaker 3>Curry Lambeaus thirty thirty one, twenty six, twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four and twenty right, God bless me.

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<v Speaker 3>So my youngest one is in third year of college,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like looking at them, like, yeah, two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Is gonna wild out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they going to do bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They ain't coming back, yo.

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<v Speaker 4>But but but but again, twenty million, okay or fifty million,

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<v Speaker 4>and here's job between.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know fifty between five.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right because if I got that, if I got right,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to have one hundred but for each

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<v Speaker 2>to be twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So you take a chance on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, man, I'm telling you right, it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be worth more just passing down the catalog because

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<v Speaker 2>each of them can get it divided equally and they

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<v Speaker 2>can't blow it.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't blow it because it comes forever. It's right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think I gotta think about that. But

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<v Speaker 3>just one hundred million, yo, I gotta think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's im.

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<v Speaker 2>I I made the call when I seen everything going

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<v Speaker 2>on and I got offered something right, I called my

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<v Speaker 2>my og oh yo, yo, what you think?

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<v Speaker 1>What you have me? He was like, I would never,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never, I would never.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard stories of you're gonna mention the names that

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<v Speaker 3>got eighteen a while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but you got them.

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<v Speaker 2>Dream was twenty three million. That's no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>my bad. I think two hundred something dream and then

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<v Speaker 2>you have, you know, the NEOs and people like that too,

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<v Speaker 2>that did do the numbers high though you talking about two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you know what I'm saying, if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>ready to give you two hundred, imagine what it is worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's what I said, fortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like, they're not giving you two hundred to make fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>They seeing what you already make what.

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<v Speaker 2>You already and they calcul in that by the next

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>I keep I don't want to make it a race thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, White America moves on the long game.

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<v Speaker 2>That means they will wait twenty years because they know

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<v Speaker 2>you can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the money to wait twice. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That long game is that's why I got into, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, tangible goods, let restaurants, real estate, things that

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<v Speaker 2>I can give my kids when I'm not if anything

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<v Speaker 2>was to happen, there is businesses.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know they're selling the restaurant in the houses, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Huh did they sell in the house in the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>They Oh, they better not sell a restaurant, they better

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<v Speaker 1>go run it.

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<v Speaker 2>The house is flip it, Yeah, that's what the equity

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<v Speaker 2>get built for. Flip the house. You gonna do what

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do. That's not I don't care about that

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<v Speaker 2>one of them. I know what dad said, my son,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're not said this restaurant can go. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>what you said, my son, he get that bag like that, right?

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<v Speaker 2>He fucking Kanye West. It's gone fashion. Nigga will be

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<v Speaker 2>niggas in Japan. The nigga be at the show and

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be over bro. But Yo, let's take it. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's take them back. Let's talk about the come up

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<v Speaker 2>man Long Island. But you told me something off camera

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<v Speaker 2>that you said, you're from.

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<v Speaker 3>Brooklyn, right, this is why this is I'm I'm born

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<v Speaker 3>and raised in Long Island, right, But my fan was

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<v Speaker 3>in was in pink houses, so shut out. So when

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<v Speaker 3>when I was seventeen, that's why you know, I frequent that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, doing the end of high school. When I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that, again, school was school, but it was okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So again you know my cousins, the Woodson's and my

0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.520
<v Speaker 3>cousin Jammel and the and his two brothers, they lived

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<v Speaker 3>there and was was raised and there they moved from

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<v Speaker 3>someplace else in Brooklyn and moved the pink houses. So

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<v Speaker 3>through my early career. That's where I stomped at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so I went there whatever. Every day I went there,

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<v Speaker 3>I had to have some girls behind the building. I

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<v Speaker 3>had some girls in the building, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, and and and when we was in there

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where sometimes you know, you you really

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't like really just walk up in the building like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so so if I bring friends, it was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to stay in the car, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>you wasn't really from there, but you know, not me,

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<v Speaker 3>but I bring up the right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you had to be from a prop if you

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't certified or really from that project, you couldn't bring

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<v Speaker 2>the home.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though we all out there, you know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the niggas is a home now, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But but but but but dracking numbers from Siples. All

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<v Speaker 2>these people so and so they're all home now so

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<v Speaker 2>but so and my boy cat like all these people

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<v Speaker 2>that was And then the plaza was can do Rod Shawn,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and all this is wonderful, This is all too

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<v Speaker 2>but this is plaza, pink houses and Cyprus. So again

0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.880
<v Speaker 2>three together you have boys and some but you but

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<v Speaker 2>they wasn't coming, you know, whatever we was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't go through every then Roger and then we

0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.800
<v Speaker 2>had the diner where because the diner is a little

0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.920
<v Speaker 2>bit more down, but everybody went to the diner. But

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, again that part of too not knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle Murder was there, Yeah, Pink because he because we

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<v Speaker 2>was in the I was doing something for power. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was the episode that had came back whatever season

0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.680
<v Speaker 2>two fifty had a bunch of artists coming through, so

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted e Pd to do you got to chill? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so so so we were formed performed that night, and

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<v Speaker 2>but he was telling fifty like, yo, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know from the building, you know, and but Maine on

0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.880
<v Speaker 2>them knew, you know, people that you know understood what

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<v Speaker 2>it was. But again I'm young, so my thought process

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<v Speaker 2>of niggas getting busy wasn't in my thought process, Like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so so I know that most of these niggas is killers, right,

0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:25.200
<v Speaker 2>and but it's it's Eric, you know, it's the Rapper.

0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.600
<v Speaker 2>You know a few of us of them played basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>so they was off limits to But at the end of.

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<v Speaker 1>The day two we all still got busy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when niggas saw me busting guns and Staten

0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Allen niggas because I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Robbed, so let them things fly. I had to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I was because I was love. I was embarrassed, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what do it. Embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wrote this song like, yeah, I was young

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<v Speaker 3>and dumb, and I could have ended my career.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, I went to Staten Island, right, you drove

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<v Speaker 2>over there with the biscuit or you No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>listen what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>So let me get the story going. So what happened

0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.960
<v Speaker 3>was I met this girl already know, so she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in and and let me see Movetings Park Slope.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in. It's in the record. Ye yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yea yeah, no I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in New Brighton bright right, So okay, it's

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<v Speaker 3>hood over there. But I don't know that neither. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the girl because the funk about nothing else.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at not tore down fucking Clinton Hills the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>I was laying them chicks out.

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<v Speaker 1>He said. I ain't care about the hood chick.

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<v Speaker 3>So so when I was when I'll get all right,

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<v Speaker 3>So when I went to I'm excited to the terrorists

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<v Speaker 3>as wild so so so so.

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<v Speaker 1>When you went.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I went to to there, I already was

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<v Speaker 3>with the girls. So now I went back again and

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.600
<v Speaker 3>my boy, but not my best friend. His father had

0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 3>a church in statnll and so he was the pastor already.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's when I already already knew who Tang. I

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<v Speaker 3>got a picture of me and Whu Tang in nineteen

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.359
<v Speaker 3>eighty nine before they was famous. Because Ray Corner, I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna sign him Dolo by myself at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. But so I went back the second time.

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<v Speaker 3>The nigga that's dead from the Foursome D's it was

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<v Speaker 3>his birthday, right, so I'm talking with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot was when it wasn't. Steve was the one

0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.040
<v Speaker 2>that passed away. So we talking.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, yo, EO, I'm going to go to the

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<v Speaker 3>store and get me a bother you want to drink.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, nah, I'm cool. Soon as he left, I

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<v Speaker 3>went in the building. Now she was on the on

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<v Speaker 3>the first floor, so I opened the door. I was

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<v Speaker 3>on my way upstairs already, but somebody, Yo, come back,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gona shoot your man. I come back down the stairs.

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<v Speaker 3>They got the gun and my man's stomach. So I

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<v Speaker 3>walked back, you know. So now my mind I'm angry,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So now I'm like, yo, this is not happening.

0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.000
<v Speaker 3>He said, take your chain off. I had a big chain,

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<v Speaker 3>I had some rings, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had a thousand dollars on my chest and

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<v Speaker 2>I had the Benzi box on me.

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<v Speaker 1>We had you were too young.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about the box and bock. When you

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<v Speaker 3>take the radio out with you, you know, you take it

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<v Speaker 3>out and then you go, there's what we had back then.

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<v Speaker 2>So sorry, So now he snatched my chain and take

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<v Speaker 2>the Benzie box.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he shoots in the air blop. So when I

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<v Speaker 3>get outside and he's like, yo, what happened? It was

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<v Speaker 3>too fast for them to know that happened. So they

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<v Speaker 3>set me up. So I don't know if it was

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.840
<v Speaker 3>the foursome d Nigga knew what was going on, but

0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I was in the wrong spot.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me tell you something too.

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<v Speaker 3>While I'm talking to him, I see a lady in

0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.360
<v Speaker 3>the door, an old lady, but it looked like a mask.

0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.280
<v Speaker 3>It looked fake, but I'm not thinking it's fake. It

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<v Speaker 3>was him. He was already getting ready to get me.

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<v Speaker 3>So now he got me snatched up, and that so

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<v Speaker 3>my whole thing too. I'm mad because I gotta drive

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.160
<v Speaker 3>home with no music. That's where I'm really mad at.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna let you finish.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me you shot at the foursome being no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is I just wanted to make sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So now.

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<v Speaker 2>Paris gets the phone call from from from from from

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<v Speaker 2>his man. You know that they rob your boy, so

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I said. So I lied to Parish like you robbed me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know e P M D.

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<v Speaker 2>No, don't get close you might get shot. You know

0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:44.359
<v Speaker 2>all the persona of it, but it could happen. I listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I got caught slipping. So now my embarrassment. I go

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<v Speaker 2>to Fort Greene. I go get Hawking Dog. Oh you

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.960
<v Speaker 2>into the trenches, you in the ship. So Hawking Dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Niggas know them so that we can know has them.

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<v Speaker 2>These niggas. It got busy right, and people know them too.

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<v Speaker 2>So my cousin went to go get my cousin Jammel.

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<v Speaker 3>When they picked up Hawking Dog, we rode back to

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<v Speaker 3>to stat Now on that Saturday, another a weekend, so

0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.280
<v Speaker 3>we went to a random club, but it was stop

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<v Speaker 3>now we didn't care. So we just walked in just

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.199
<v Speaker 3>to be walking in, looking around this and that that

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<v Speaker 3>and this whatever such and such.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when the club let out, pulled the bens up,

0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I was in my own car, popped the trunk, undea,

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the tire started letting off. Whole club just shut up.

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.360
<v Speaker 2>The club just shotting up the outside whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>That and that.

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<v Speaker 3>So because we had to make a statement, we could

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<v Speaker 3>have hit somebody. Luckily we didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We got all the way from stopping now and back

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 2>across the bridge in Brooklyn, and nobody knew.

0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.119
<v Speaker 1>There was no cops, no nothing like.

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 2>This is not that this, but it got back that

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Eric came came here with three niggas and shot up

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:02.919
<v Speaker 2>and shot this place up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's crazy. It was putting in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Work because this is what I had to do, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>was dumb and stupid. But again I was embarrassed.

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was embarrassed because in Paris knew, and I was

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.680
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed because I got robbed.

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.040
<v Speaker 1>And then because me being me, he's a young kid,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's how yo, bro, I've been in this situation.

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:23.200
<v Speaker 1>It happens.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always a girl, it's always a hood you not

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<v Speaker 2>from and you blind after it happened to me. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I wrote the song. It's one rule, never get

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:32.680
<v Speaker 2>caught slipping.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought I never had because then I judge

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<v Speaker 3>the book bos cover. I'm in stott now because it's

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<v Speaker 3>not booking, it's not Queen's, it's not Bronx, it's not hard.

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<v Speaker 1>This is stat now.

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<v Speaker 3>So I judged the book bos cover knowing rock Kim

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<v Speaker 3>just said too, it ain't where you're from, where you at.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that I didn't even put that.

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<v Speaker 2>Twisted and think stat Allen is I know that now like.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it had some of the craziest niggas. They couldn't come.

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<v Speaker 3>Across the way they look at the way they looked

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.120
<v Speaker 3>at long Alan, how the boroughs looked at huss As

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:06.680
<v Speaker 3>being being like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I took to. I took it for granted.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I was at outside jewelry, money boom boom, outside

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 3>talking regular nigga, and this nigga was hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hell yeah, that's how it goes. Bro Damn, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an ill story, man, You.

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<v Speaker 1>Know you let that thing fly that Now.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a there's a few niggas that I ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>mention no names.

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<v Speaker 1>Chill, we ain't gonna get into that. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go, let's take it back because e pm D

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 2>y'all was like, what not gonna say the first group

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>because you had Beastie Boys, But y'all did your thing.

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Y'all was like a major impact on Death Jail. What

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.160
<v Speaker 2>was that like when y'all first got well?

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:52.159
<v Speaker 3>The craziest the fact that we got signed again the

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.959
<v Speaker 3>demo records, the true record. We chilled a sixty eight

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 3>camarow that parish had where we had stripped the little

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<v Speaker 3>top off, had it painted, fixed the engine, put rims

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 3>on the whole nine, and we drove it and the

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.400
<v Speaker 3>car did conk out, you know the way the way

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 3>the story says it demo, So it did happen. But

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.959
<v Speaker 3>we went to labels back then you would look at

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 3>the album covers.

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 2>And then address would be on there. So we went

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to three of them, and then the third way we went.

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.439
<v Speaker 3>To Sleeping Back of Records, Fresh Records, and they and

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:21.879
<v Speaker 3>they called us back and said, yo, we want to

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 3>sign y'all. But after that, you know, Rush management had

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 3>every group, so everybody was on rush.

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Don't matter. I remember yo yo.

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 2>There's a picture with all rush groups out there, rock Him,

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 2>King One, d MC, every everybody was on the one

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 2>block Elizabeth Elizabeth Street and were all out there.

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>But I was cars. Oh no, no, I ain't.

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Never it's a short block Elizabeth Street.

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So we out there that one with the cars. So

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 1>that's out there. I don't know.

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I only saw it once, but it's crazy. But run

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 2>dem was getting to go on tour.

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 3>One call hustle, listen, go get them boys because they

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 3>saw how fast we was blowing the as far as

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 3>we it was like soon as soon as it's my

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 3>thing and you were customer drop, it was over. And

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 3>then the album dropped, you got to share, it was over.

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 3>So so run dm C knew the same way that

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 3>when Drake came out, how Kanye was like, I shoot

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 3>the video. Your competition is coming, right, run dm C

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 3>knew that this was the end of an error coming

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 3>probably for them because Rock Him changed the game. And

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 3>then oh, who's these new dudes from Long Island that

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 3>we we patterned our whole self around them, right So then,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 3>so I don't abel didn't have enough money for us

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 3>to have a tour bus, so we rode on run

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 3>DMC's bus. Can you imagine being the kid go forget

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 3>me and pirates shove that car.

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Not only to go get a deal.

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>We wanted to go pick up Sucking Seas from a

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 3>record store called Rock and so Oh, because we didn't

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 3>have no store on that, so we went to Manhattan

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 3>to pick up the Run DMC second c single.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like that on the other side.

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 3>So imagine you're getting the call and now the whole

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 3>tour EPM, d J, Jeffin, the First Prince, Public under

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 3>meet and the EPMD. So it's four of us and

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 3>sometimes it would be Obstatasonic. So we all on nineteen

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 3>eighty eight called the Runhouse Tour. But I'm on Run

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 3>DMC's bus.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't even have your own bus. Now we're

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>too young for that. I don't have the money for that,

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 3>But then on the tour, First Prince says, we want

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 3>to stop and tell y'all congratulate EPMD for number one

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 3>album in the country. True, so we are don't beget

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 3>We're on tour with the biggest groops in the world,

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 3>but we number oh no, you know EPMD's exploded.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>So man so all you got the chair check up

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>my hey.

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 2>When them records came out, bro, those just the type

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>of records that made me say, damn, I want to do.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 3>This ship right because the first I keep it one

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 3>hundred after the first Strictly Business album was made, we

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.479
<v Speaker 3>go back and we got the jinks.

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Nothing's happening, couldn't make nothing was working.

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Luckily, I was in Europe and I heard groove Me

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 3>and the guy played this song called bye Bye Bye

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 3>by Soul, the soul called fair play. So when nothing

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 3>was going to partly look at that record I brought back.

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I bought that back running and it made it nice. Nope,

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 3>whatever made it back, that's what you're saying.

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, blessed, Yeah, appreciate you.

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, yo yo yo listen, I want my thousand

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 3>n I want my thousand dollars back.

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Yo.

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that that.

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 3>What I did was, I know he didn't mean the

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 3>mean to play me, but I wouldn't have been mad.

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 3>But he said, Yo, I'm gonna bet you one thousand

0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 3>dollars that niggas say, so uh he's and I been away,

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 3>and I said, yo, they ain't gonna sing it. You

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying because we in a crowd, which

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 3>I figured is young, you know.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Just like music is out there. So that's cool. It's

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one.

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 3>So after y'all get on, we come on and do

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 3>what you say in part, and the part comes up,

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>the whole National Coliseum sings the part right, So he

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>takes my thousand dollars on the US and then throw

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 3>it in the audience.

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>It's on YouTube, bleak no way, so you don't remember that,

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 1>so you never knew it. Oh can. We made a

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>bet that that night that they were gonna say.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>So when you look at the thousand dollars that he threw,

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 3>that was my thousand that I bet him.

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>He's a always takes somebody's money and give it away.

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 3>So on YouTube, I watched all the time he threw

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 3>it in the audience, you know whatever. So again, but

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 3>going back to them, going back to that, we had

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of it was going to be like

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 3>a sophomore jinx. I'm like, damn, this is going to

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 3>be so so so then demos start coming and these

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 3>things came after. But in the beginning, nothing was working.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 3>But luckily I brought that record back.

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>From the Europe. Man, that's crazy man, that record. Did

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>y'all know?

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Like, of course, it's like me asking myself the same question,

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 2>but I have to ask you, did you even think

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that y'all was making something as timeless as you did?

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Nah?

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 3>But we knew that we knew what we wanted to hear,

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>and we knew that it sounded dope to us. Don't forget,

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 3>nobody knows believe what you're doing until you send it

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 3>to them. That's right, until they hear it. So you

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 3>have to fuck with it first. So if you if

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>we like it, then we're going with it. You know,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 3>the label don't know the day, okay, and what we

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 3>what we bring it to them? Somebody there wasn't no

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 3>leo like that's not good. This is whack, you know,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>So they wasn't likely or most labels, you know. So

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 3>so they bring what you what you bring them and

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 3>they were like yeah, So one thing about us.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>E pm D was the last group to come out

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>in that time. So I was able to hear MC light,

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>KOs One Rock, Kim Bismarcky Caine, all these people I

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>was able to hear first Shan they was so now

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>if I'm looking back and we like this, we can't

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 2>be whack.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I got all to look at.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 3>So so now we got my mentor two towns away,

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 3>which is rock kim So this is wined Inch, then

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 3>in between this deer Park and then they would get

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 3>a couple.

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Then there's Brentwood.

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 3>So that's what made me really go because once I

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 3>heard rock kim My DJ Diamonds like listen nickname rock

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Wind that came out.

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 2>The name was his name was rock Win. So he's like, yo,

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>gun and rock Wind came out. He rhymes slow like

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>you do because I had with a list, So I'm

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 2>rhyming slow. So when I heard turned ba check out

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>my melody and knowledge the car, I'm.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Letting knowledge and my name is the R A k I.

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm like, yo, Nick Knacked, Patty Whack, get

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>on Yo.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm rhyming like this too.

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, yo, we can make it because he's

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>I came in the door. I said it before, so

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 3>we're like, m c's out there, you better stan clear

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 3>e P M D is the world.

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So so so so so we knew that.

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 3>So we knew that, Okay, the we can make it

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 3>because he's also from long Island, even though we publicly

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 3>became Bizmarck.

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>He came, this is all Long Island.

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Know what I'm saying, so so so a strong so

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, because if you take Long

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Island out the map, it's a problem.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, the day lives, the you know.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>The.

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Bus and the yeah who you know. So it was

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of people that you know, the Keith Murrays

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and case the whole nation.

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Man at that point, like my g they call our

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>era the Golden Era. I ain't gonna discredit it, but yeah,

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Arab Blue, that's the golden Too many gem rappers, you

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>was just like, yeah, paved the way for guys like

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>us to pave the way for the other guys. You

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>gotta understanding without job when this bro this is special ed.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>This is cousie wrap, this is n w A, this

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>is again.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 3>They said like this is given hammer, this is this

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 3>is all, this is forty or this is on that side.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Ye.

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 3>The too many people that came in the late eighties

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 3>and then eighty eight, it was everything. Everything that sparked

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 3>what you hearing and seeing came from that year and

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 3>not ever, mostly that.

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Year eighty eight.

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>That period the drugs was crazy, Cracker is eighty eight,

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 3>This is, this is, this is this.

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Year was the Dapi Dan gold fronts. Everything was.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Rock, Mike Tyson at the Uptown, at the Beverly, the clubs.

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>All this is eighty eight was the Yeah.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 3>But I don't give a funk with niggas talking about

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 3>you said the nineties they missed, but the Golden era

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>to me, not because.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I was this man's that.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was man, I agree, bro, because I was

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>a shorty trying to imitate emulate everybody.

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Y'all were doing.

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Man like yeah with the change, the cars, you get

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>your album cover and bashing your hold on.

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>These niggas ain't sitting on top of the bed. Listen.

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 3>This is what they said to somebody from the Choice said,

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 3>we thought y'all was drug dealers, Yo, so so so.

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You rock Kim and Eric B.

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Of course when they covered with remember they got the

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 2>big change on their.

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Now the fucking Dapper Dan. It's not that Buci joints on. Yeah,

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Me and Parison on the car with the jewelry on,

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, what do you mean to say?

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Yo?

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 3>We y'all look because that's what we It was before

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 3>rappers came to look was from the street.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so now it reverts like you know what I mean,

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the streets emulate what the rappers is now. But back

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>in the day, the rappers imitated what streets the drugs

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that that was it. That was the swag of y

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and they got mad.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>When hip hop came.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 2>We took the girls, and we took the hype, yo,

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>that You're right.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I ain't ever think about it like that.

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>You're right, y'all were y'all were on TV all day,

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>girls shouting on the black like I'm with you every day.

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>But Homie just was on my on the on the box.

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I got a check him. Remember this was the days

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 2>when you had the call call, order that video on

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>your phone.

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember all that.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember fucking pulling over for that, fucking for that

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 3>fucking phone, and so on and so on.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>The street nigga.

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Telephone, niggaya with the quarters, nigga like yourn, yeah about

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about calling period, the phone book, about that post,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 3>the phone booth, nigga, a call phone.

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>You right, cell phone came the lawyer. You had to

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 2>call your lawyer. You had to pull over to the store, yo.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>You know that's crazy.

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 2>You know how much the brick phone was, yo, the

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>brick alone and then the phone.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Yo.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 3>We had two thousand dollars phone on the regular in

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 3>the nineties.

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on the on the regular, like we until my

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>biggie said, phone bill about two g's flying till somebody

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>my man was getting the burners back then and then.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Fixing the phones.

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>You was lit pay like seven hundred dollars board and

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 3>it was on to you lost, go on to your lost.

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the phone was on to your boogie.

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 3>We had two thousand dollars phone bills twenty five hundred

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 3>three grand all the time.

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Nigga has in every month to have a cell phone.

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Yo.

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Ship you were what made you transfer from because y'all

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.959
<v Speaker 2>dominated of course me and y'all mark on the hip

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>hop rap scene.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>But then you just became like the this producer, Like

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>what what was that?

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, after the group broke up and I was I was,

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I was released from the handcuffs. I went to Atlanta

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 3>right just because I was like, you know, even though

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 3>I knew that, okay, you can't leave, so they were

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 3>going to come and get me anyway, But I wasn't

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 3>going to sit there. Let them come and get me

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 3>who because they had the three signed statements on.

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Me who riding on?

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, the thing that went down with E. P.

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.439
<v Speaker 3>M D to break up to happening to begin with?

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, I was lost, like who coming to

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 2>get you?

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 3>So so, but that's all on the on the it's

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube, yeah, the story. But again I wasn't gonna

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 3>let them just sit there and knowing they got three

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 3>signed statements, that means they can railroad me to you know,

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 3>even though I know that again, you know, somebody had

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 3>just made a whole thing up such and such, but

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 3>niggas will believe it, you know. So he ended up

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>being not show. So anyway, I went to Atlanta.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>So when I went to Georgia, I had went to

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Georgia earlier and met some girl you know, right, but

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>so so, and then I met the niggas who I

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 2>did the rim shot with. Okay, niggas from Detroit, so

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Greg and them. So I met him, so I knew

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I had a place to go too, So so I

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>chilled there. Next thing, you know, puff called first for

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>for the Who's the Man soundtrack? And I made my

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>first single, hitting Switches right, oh, ship that was I

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't even know that, so I made hitting switches and

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>then when I shot the video it was Puffy and

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Hight Williams day first ship.

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>That's when I tell that Biggie. Everywhere I was shooting,

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Biggie was next to me. Everywhere I went.

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 2>He was again because Boogie had he had told Tracy

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Waples kicked me on the Eric Sermon album.

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.919
<v Speaker 3>Right, but I already had my own coul Reggie dods

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Keep that already had rappers. But but Biggie told Tracy,

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 3>please get me on that album, you know so, but

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 3>it didn't happen. But anyway, that's when Atlanta was did

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>they kind of opened up to me. Was when the

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 3>record come up and be like Atlanta's own Eric Sermon.

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like what the next thing, you know, they they

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 3>papers call the Constitution. I'm on the front page. Eric

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Surmon meus to Atlanta, and I'm like, yo, what's going on?

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 3>So they embraced me so that when I got there,

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I met Dallas Austin, and Dallas had gave me one

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 3>of his rooms out the blue just as being a fan.

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 3>He said, Yo, I got the ship Collate Records. I

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 3>got these groups. Cha's a lingo and the lego. Can

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 3>you do something for me? Remember illegal? So so I'm like, okay, whatever.

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Liljam Mormon Leak was bad at fourteen, I'm talking, I'm

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 2>bad kids though.

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>They it was bad, bro, it was that era. It

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>was the early nineties.

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 2>So so so they lived with Lisa Lopez god bst

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 2>to Dad no way right, So so, so theday was

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>so Lisa had took them.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 3>So they were like, your uncle e, you're coming over.

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 3>That's when I was with Lisa for a little bit.

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I always thought was signed to the Hit Squad. No,

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>they were signing the Rowdy. That's crazy.

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>So now so now I'm over there as uncle E.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 3>So now it's me, Jamal Malik and Lisa living in

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 3>the in the hotel, right, don't because I just got there.

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't have ship.

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy and so and so so I'm in

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 3>a hotel too, say in that hotel.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>But once Lisa let me come through, then I'm staying there.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 3>But but I ended up doing Lili Zayne had a

0:38:55.800 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 3>group too, So I did all of that was on

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Rowdy because the Downers looked out for me. So everything,

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 3>and Nick, sure, you know, I got a call from

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Shack too, so I was getting my money up.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Who's the man was gonna say? Five hundred Shack? I

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 2>thought it was gonna be a big check at Jive,

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 2>seventy five hundred dollars.

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.919
<v Speaker 3>I did full records in there, right, and I wrote

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 3>and I did Outstanding. There was going platinum, and then

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 3>I did Malik and Jamaar and Lego. They ended up

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 3>winning the Billboard Award for a week. It is busy,

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 3>so so again, so all this stuff was going on,

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 3>and that's how my ship put like that. I had

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 3>just started doing everybody, so anybody didn't wrap that was crazy.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I was already doing Redman, but then the how High

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.439
<v Speaker 3>thing came around when I went back to New York

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 3>to go visit.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So when the.

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Studio then I made how High and after that then

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Reggie's Muddy Waters it was time to come.

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>So I ended up doing that.

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 2>So so we're not going to skip over Radman like

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>he just so regular artists.

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I signed, Yeah my man from the block, rad Man,

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you just keep going. Yeah, Reggie, y'all changed the game

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>with Red Man.

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Bro Like rappers, wasn't you really using that funk doc

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>like that Bro y'all brought that new sound.

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And then Bro Reggie was I ain't gonna lie man

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>to me.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Before Jay was Red, he was the idlest rapper I

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>ever heard when I was a kid.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm glad we sawing this right now. Word up.

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I tell you no man I ever heard when I

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>was a kid.

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 3>It was another rumor, but I think that Jay would saying,

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 3>because it's nothing bad. Jay at one time, I think

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 3>we actually do a record, and he was like, I

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 3>respect him too much to rock with him.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 2>And we was at a Vegas fight in Vegas too,

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>don't forget.

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm over here with this chicken named Nikki.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>You always got them chicks, man, and it was it

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>was baby Mother's friends.

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 3>So Dame's over here too, and Dame is saying, Yo, Jay,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 3>what album we got in the cars? He says, all,

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 3>we got Redman in the car. Ya, I'm telling yoyo.

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I was bugging out because I'm like, Yo,

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 3>that's what y'all playing.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Say Yo, Yo, we're playing Redmend playing Reggie in the car.

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you a story, right it's

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>ill because you signed some of the illest people man

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>from Radman than Keith Murray. The most beautifulest thing in

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the world, made you with y'all with the hit Squad

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 2>was special?

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Man? Did you hear me that? What was the song

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that had bangers? Man? I wrote a verse to that

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:37.240
<v Speaker 1>as a shorty.

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Just imagine that I was in that crew. Trust me, Bro,

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 2>that's one of my favorite beats.

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I still to this day. How nobody never sampled that.

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 2>I made head bangs for ice Cube? No way, I

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 2>never got into him. I wasn't even making it for us.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 3>That was the last song that e PM DV recorded

0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.439
<v Speaker 3>for the fourth album before the Break.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Yo, Bro, I'm telling y'all changed the game. But listen right,

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing every I'm hearing everybody, Keith Murray listening to

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 2>all the music. Mind you, I'm a fan of anybody.

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.720
<v Speaker 2>They used to have this event called the Gavin Yeah, yeah,

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 2>what right? So I'm like Jack and Gavin. Remember I

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>was fourteen years old. I'm not even supposed to know you.

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 2>How you get out there anyway? Jay Jay? This is

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 2>when this is before. Ain't no nigga, none of that.

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 2>This was Yeah, this was n ninety four, this Dead

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 2>pressent because ninety six, no this Remember the album came

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>out ninety six Dead Presence, I believe came out the

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>end of ninety four, beginning of ninety.

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Five, ninety four. Yes, yeah, I'm telling you in the

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:41.720
<v Speaker 1>ninety four beginning.

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I was out there for a whole year before y'all

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 2>got before Will Soccleoft did that, because you know Will

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Soccer lof is Stephen back Records.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>That's where I come from. Oh, I ain't know, I

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know who put.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 2>The event together, but I'm gonna tell you how I

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:54.760
<v Speaker 2>met Keith Murray.

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, so I'm listening to y'all.

0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, We're going to fourteen, fifteen years old, going to

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:01.320
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans.

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Were deep.

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>We on the plane, we land, we wait, we in baggage, clang,

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 2>we get in our bags and then they go Keith

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Murray in though. So then all I see is Dame,

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 2>you'll hold my jewelry jay a bike? Take it off

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 2>their no, because they had start fighting. So that I'm

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 2>standing there like, yo, niggas.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 4>Got beef with Keith hurry, and I thought this is

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 4>the most ain't get you know the story?

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 3>No who, So listen, wait, I gotta give you that

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 3>perpose what happened, because this is crazy.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I hear about I hear about that part.

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Murray was going to some type of restaurant where Damon

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:42.439
<v Speaker 3>was going to to. Murray saw some girl come by,

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 3>So Murray is an alecs he hits Dame's car. H

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 3>So now they end up going to some type of

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 3>brunch a luncheon. So they're both in the same spot.

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 3>So Dame, it's like, Yo, they're gonna hone me right there.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 3>This is not that and this so all of a sudden,

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Murray hit Dame over the head with the bottom in

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the club.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 1>No way.

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I I knew I heard that incident, but I

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>ain't never know where it happened.

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 3>So what you're saying, I don't know about that part.

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 3>I know what happened with that.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yo, bro and New Orleans fresh off the plane on site.

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Now mind you, I never met Keith murd It's my

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 2>first time.

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>On the plane leaving the Projects.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, oh, this is how it is when

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 2>you get off the plane. This just like the Projects, y'all.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I swear to God, the niggas was rumbling in the air.

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I never heard that. I swear bro.

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 2>That's my first time ever Keith Murray but that but

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.439
<v Speaker 2>that's where it came from. I ain't know that's where

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.760
<v Speaker 2>it started from here in his car, but I was bugging,

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 2>like when the fuck we got beef with Keith?

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Yo?

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>But nah, but y'all, man, they hit squad. What was

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that like, man? Because you said illegal and it was bad.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Now you say Keith, Well see Mary and legal and

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 3>and and I Leegal came after the breakup. So his

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 3>card is E P M D dis effects K Solo

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 3>and the Solo so so you had.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 2>I had you know that effects to so.

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 3>So Solo was unique because of the spelling and like

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Nas is one of his favorite rappers. Because Solo said

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 3>he was he would do something like it wasn't me.

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 3>The rhyme did it, so we never heard nobody speaking

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 3>third person and had the rhyme as a character doing damage.

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>So he had the rhyme as one of his boys.

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 2>You know when he said, so, Nas.

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 3>Always speak about I was a fusitive before Soul stories too,

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and the technique and what he was doing and that's

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 3>effects with the wiggedd wow, you know so this is

0:45:55.200 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 3>and the Redman. So all my MC's were had styles

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 3>that effects was under you two.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>It's his squad. I told you his squad.

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know yet, yo, that's how you know I didn't. Yeah,

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 2>but that just thinking that's feature infany or something. I

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't pay attention to labels. Everybody that signed to me, Reggie,

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Doctor and Solo. No, man, you gotta be crassing the

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 2>greatest fucking is in hip hop. Bro. Then that's why

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you hear my voice. They weren't effects. Some live effects

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 2>snapper neck for some live effects.

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>That's me, so exchange the game.

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 3>So they did. They Doctor Becks did something for E. P. M. D.

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 3>In the squad that was dope because they went platinum.

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 3>So they opened up another lane that we didn't have.

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:42.240
<v Speaker 3>So when course over came boom, you know, gold album,

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 3>this is not that and this partinum ops or whatever. They

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 3>open stuff up because they I mean, they were spring Break.

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>They were every white kids. They was just everywhere everywhere.

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 3>So so that was But but the Death Squad is

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 3>where Keith Murray and the Leader came.

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Two squads Squad and the Depth Squad. Yeah right, you're

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 2>right yo, y'all fucking yo, bro. Legendary Ship gee, they

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>gotta put you on the top with the legendary CEOs

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 2>of the game. A pioneer of some of these probably

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.840
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be no p no, no cash money, none of

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 2>these type of CEOs. You one of the first, Like

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 2>think about it, you give who else Michael Bivens was

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 2>signing it? Yeah, you know what you like, It wasn't

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>really Russell Simmons. Of course they were signing everybody, but

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't artists signing.

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Because don't forget, niggas was Don't forget. I had Dave

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Hallster too. That's depth squad, damn.

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>So so you.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Got the whole Monica, Dave Hallfono Hunter, all these people

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 3>that too was under my monica, and I had other

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:50.720
<v Speaker 3>people that was coming.

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't forget.

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I could have signed Game, I could have signed Luda,

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I could have signed Wu Tang, I could have signed

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Rick Ross.

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Because these niggas was all with me. Fifty was on.

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>All these people was.

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 3>People that came to me and I produced it records

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>set on my step on my basement floor. So so

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 3>so you and then you got people like hit Maker

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:16.800
<v Speaker 3>who look for me for six months. He's one of

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 3>the biggest songwriters in the world. But all these bleak

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 3>that you can have some people that talk about some people.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.479
<v Speaker 3>But when you watch the Wu Tangs series, that's why

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 3>my name and stuff and.

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Your appeals all through it.

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Because again I was gonna sign and Ray Kuarn speaks

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 3>about this, Yeah, I was gonna s sound with every

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 3>the game talks about this. Yeah, I was gonna siund

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 3>with Everic don't.

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Forget me Thisrius b I g was brought to me

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.720
<v Speaker 2>at a barber shop in Brooklyn. I did not listen

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>to him. You look, yo, I don't got no cat

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>with me. Ever Lion, you ain't listening yo. Big album

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.839
<v Speaker 2>was circulating Brooklyn streets before it came out.

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>He went platinum.

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Before, but he wasn't nowhere near being looked at.

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>He was still with seeing the basement. But the barber too, that.

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Knew something, that knew somebody who knew him. But get

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 3>your Eric's here, bring Biggie through and I was like,

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 3>get my hair cut, doing me. I'm about whatever you Okay,

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 3>you're going to get with the check exactly. Damn man By.

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I got dubbed because of a chick she had that

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know the.

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that was on my mind at the time,

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 3>but I was already me had bread.

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't forget he was on that rapper ship,

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:40.240
<v Speaker 2>but I had my own. Yeah, so you wasn't really

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 2>like I'm good. I don't know, but.

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 3>So and that's and then, yo, there's one person that

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 3>didn't make it that you probably never heard of, but

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 3>go back and listen to him.

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Jam message. Jay brought me this kid named Joe Sinister.

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember I heard of him. No, I heard of

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Joe Sinister. He was nice. He was nice. It's Joe

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>sending stuff.

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 2>He came in with Onyx and Redman said, Eric, listen,

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I know I'm mem but there's some nigga with honors

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 2>with a backpack on it.

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:17.359
<v Speaker 1>This nigga is Dan nice. Yeah, he was nice metaphorically, Yo.

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>He on my soul album too.

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 3>That's why I couldn't even look at the biggie because

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 3>now I got my uncle. And then I got this

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Joe Cents guy on my album too, because Jay came

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 3>to the studio with him and we having to make

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 3>a record. I like it, and I'm like, you know what,

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna keep it because I'm here and metaphors that

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.919
<v Speaker 3>Reggie didn't do yet. And if Reggie brought him to me,

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 3>what you're gonna mean? This is Reggie, he said, Eric,

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna It's a nigga with Homeboy.

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like.

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 3>On the block with Christine spitting the Green Peace soup.

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I cocked nines smoking Nick Nick Nick with the Lothians.

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like snigger, yo. He he was.

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 3>So far out there, he said, I'm gonna shoot you

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.720
<v Speaker 3>in the head. The bullet is in there, paying rent

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 3>in the brain as a vacancy, like the far it

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 3>is not. I can't rhyme it, but the way that

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 3>he put it together, suck my dick, fuck the ship

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:21.360
<v Speaker 3>forkx plicit what like? He was way ahead of time,

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:22.919
<v Speaker 3>way ahead of his time.

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I.

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Know some guys like that from the Prick, from the

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.839
<v Speaker 2>projects that never never got a shot, never a head

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:30.359
<v Speaker 2>of day time?

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Man, what you think? What what would you say? Cannabis too?

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>He was death squad too, yo. How y'all lay him

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.400
<v Speaker 1>getting that drama then? Man? He was He left and

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:42.760
<v Speaker 1>got went to White Cliff.

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm about to say. Yeah, why Cleff gave

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 2>him that old you can.

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Give me that money. Give the money.

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 2>He let l L get that boy work.

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 3>But if listened to the beginning of his stuff on

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 3>the radio, he's like, he says death squad and then

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.760
<v Speaker 3>he goes to rhyme had cannabis?

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Was a fucking assassin? Was he was a problem. And

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 2>again you gotta listen, man. LL don't give a who

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it is.

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't forget LL was like Fox Brown on the record,

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 3>MM conquer the world, iced t hammers and ice sheese girl.

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Still he don't care female raptors too.

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yo. We on rampage smoke on the No, you're missing it.

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 3>He on our record saying, you and your squad gonna

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 3>face the real guard the undertake.

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 1>This is us and he coming at your neck on

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 1>your record on the record, same record.

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.960
<v Speaker 3>But but then he said on the break of dawn,

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 3>give me that microphone, I'm gonna show you.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>The real meaning of the dangers. Yo. No, L was

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a problem.

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 3>He didn't and I don't know that was just as instinct.

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.919
<v Speaker 3>But that's just how he was battled.

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Number one period. Anybody get that. Anybody can get it. Friend, naughty,

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:06.879
<v Speaker 2>that's right, you want to feature. I'm at your neck, man,

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 2>But like I said, what what would you say? Your

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 2>best your best business decision has been out your career.

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Again.

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a Ketschwayne too because the breakup. You know,

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that if that didn't happen, I would have

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 3>been I would have been inside of a system where

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 3>I just made beats for my crew. The breakup was

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 3>what was a gift and the curse too, because once

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:31.240
<v Speaker 3>I broke up, I was able to become what I become.

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Don't forget, man, I produced almost all the Wrap and

0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 3>half R and B. People don't look at my R

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 3>and B and look at the d Angelo chicul the

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:42.960
<v Speaker 3>barge in Vogue, Mary Joy, Angie Stone. You know this

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 3>is a piece. You know, Black Street keep sweat. I

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 3>can keep going on R and B Groundstone, so you can.

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Everybody that you're looking at before before they see me

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 3>as hip hop.

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But I did this too.

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>That's high clip crazy, Like, Yeah, your production bag is insane.

0:53:58.960 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 1>That's what I told you.

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Like You're legend in both atmospheres of the game, rapping

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and production, and it's insane.

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Not everybody can do that.

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm a force right now, niggas, You're not me.

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I tried Blaze brought all equipment for me, the beat

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Machine Guru and just Blaze was in my house setting

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 2>up everything because I'm like, yo, I'm gonna learn how

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to make Maybe I got this ship, bro, I couldn't

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>get past the tick on the NPC the ship that

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 2>you make the drum padd too. I was all, yeah again,

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 2>go back to that, like this is my crew. To

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 2>DJ Twins and Rock Waller.

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Gave biggest right and Twins too, they learned because they watched.

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 3>So my right is watching Rock Wilder and watching and

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Twins a long time.

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Eric. If it wasn't for you a nigga, he wouldn't

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>know none of this ship. That's crazy saying no, I couldn't.

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I tried.

0:54:56.640 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I knew production and producing that's a whole You tried it.

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 2>I tried, Yeah, I said, you said you you hit

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 2>one button and couldn't do it.

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Y'all.

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Nigga's producers to me are insane because you can just listen.

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>It's quiet, and y'all could be like, yo, you hear that?

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 2>No here what and then nigga go to the beat

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Machine that like, Yo, what the fuck did you just hear?

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it's not.

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:23.800
<v Speaker 3>For me just when I was down at one of

0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:27.320
<v Speaker 3>like again sometimes you get the low. It was Kanye

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 3>West for me. Yeah, no he was when when I

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 3>that the album I'm Like Man. And then the Long

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Hill two also woke me up.

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Because of her drums though too Kan because him and

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 2>just blazed the me where the two illess samplers like

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 2>they won't send me more record and flipping it where

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't even know when Blaze because I need to

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>get some of that money back. Okay, So.

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 3>That React beat was out, feather Meth had it, Jamai

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 3>pre had it whatever, and Dame got mad afterwards. Make

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 3>sure you before you give stuff out. Boom boom, Dame

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 3>niggas had to be so just didn't do nothing wrong again,

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 3>somebody from the label went right to Agie Martinez.

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Bus Is Cole has got already at it. So now

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:23.279
<v Speaker 2>you get to stick me up now?

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, yo, just Blaze telling the story to this day.

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 2>His biggest check they got me for sixty racks six

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 2>sixty two.

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Thousand and two.

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 3>He said that's the most money he ever got for

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 3>a record, sixty thousand. Because Dane was like, fuck all

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:46.439
<v Speaker 3>that the records out sixty Yo, I deserved some money.

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:49.239
<v Speaker 3>That money back, just just about ten thousand of it.

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Yo, that's it, sane. I forgot just did that record

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:59.240
<v Speaker 1>for you? I come on, just blaze, coming on. Yeah,

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Whatever she said, I'm that yo.

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, y'all because the whole thing, the fact that again

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:08.680
<v Speaker 3>it was the perfect thing to say though, man, because

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 3>nobody know what he says. Say want somebody said, yo,

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Eric's good. She's talking about suicide. I'm like, you know

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 3>the weathers. I'm like, come on now, enough with that.

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Now she's talking about who said all this stuff?

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that ship bullshit? But bro, you done been through

0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the label drama of course, group drama, industry ship health scarce.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had a heart attack of twenty eleven. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I'm glad to see you still

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<v Speaker 1>with us. You know what I mean?

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 2>What what what's your strength behind everything that keep you going?

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>You know for those who who might need that motivation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, my best friend passed away was my mother

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta say this one thing too.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I say a lot too too, but Kanye

0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 3>West helped me out a lot, no way, because when

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I when I was flying down to do Kanye West.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother had told my sister make sure Erika on

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>that plane. So I landed in La May thirtieth and

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 3>the phone ring my boy, but nod passed me.

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>The phone was my sister and said mom passed away. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother knew that she didn't want me to be there.

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 3>So when I got there, Kanye West said, yo, e,

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 3>my mom's died.

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I went to work, come to the lab them all.

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So I stayed with Kane, Kanrie, and and and Kanye

0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 2>in the lab. About five months we was in the

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 2>camp and his twenty five thousand square feet the thing

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.440
<v Speaker 2>he had. Then we went to the addition he had

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 2>to owe the whole a floor. What me and Ye

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 2>was doing was not what vultures was. Right, So when

0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I went home to bury my mother, I flew to

0:58:57.240 --> 0:59:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Italy right. So when I got to Italy, I see

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 2>my songs on the board, but then Todd Dollards sound

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was there, so that.

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Whole thing switched switched.

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 2>So so because I was like, yo, yay, where's the

0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 2>rhymes at? Like why ain't no rhymes on you? So

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 2>he calls the meet and like, yo, bring Eric in. Yo,

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Eric says there is no rhyme.

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 1>We got start.

0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I put some rhymes on here, so I had the ear,

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:22.200
<v Speaker 2>but it just got lost.

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>So I left.

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Italy, you know, and I'm like, damn, you know, I

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 2>want to spend the year, you know, just trying to

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 2>put stuff together.

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And it changed.

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's crazy, kan he he goes on different

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 2>this sound that sound quick. But I'm never going to

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 2>be able to know when people say about what how

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:44.200
<v Speaker 2>he is. I know what he did for me at

0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 2>a time, at the time when when my mother passed away.

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 2>So when I'm going back to your question, how do

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I where my experiences came from?

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It came from her.

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 3>So everything that I do, how I speak, how I acting,

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.080
<v Speaker 3>how I was raised, was from her. So I know

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 3>that when I I die, only I go.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Denzel had made a quote like you've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>a U hole behind the hers, which is true, continue

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<v Speaker 2>on with you. So why I'm here, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be labeled as no asshole when niggas talking

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<v Speaker 2>about me or when I go. So I've always been

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a humble person. So when because you're gonna forget Lord

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 2>is loyalty respect you can't buy. So when people say

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<v Speaker 2>what's one you're going to choose loyal to respect is

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the respect part because loyalty can easily be easy be

1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it can be tampered with and can be fake, can

1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:30.920
<v Speaker 2>can be fake. But respect you got to own that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. So again, I just had to respect for

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<v Speaker 2>my whole time being in the game. And my boys

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<v Speaker 2>say too, Eric, when your name is mentioned, shit open

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<v Speaker 2>up and niggas listen, they're like, oh, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever, And that part right there makes it feel like,

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:47.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I did my job?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, you know. Now, that's what's up.

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<v Speaker 2>What advice would you give the young artists today navigating

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the industry?

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<v Speaker 3>I would tell them too that it's a business too,

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that the independency you come from it

1:01:01.360 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 3>don't forget. That's why when you watch the backstage and

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<v Speaker 3>you see Dame Barkin, is you right?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't do nothing for me? I did this work,

1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:09.880
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So the more so the advice I give, the more

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<v Speaker 3>work you put in.

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<v Speaker 1>For yourself, the better it will be from you. Don't forget.

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<v Speaker 3>We was all independent Fresh records, you know, Zakiah fucking Boogie,

1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:26.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, Boogie Down Records, all this stuff

1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:29.960
<v Speaker 3>that all these independence came from. They all came from independence,

1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:33.240
<v Speaker 3>all of this, you know, profile Rundom Sees, all before

1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 3>they got signed to majors. So the independent game was

1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:41.560
<v Speaker 3>already always there. So be independent. Try to own as

1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 3>much as you possibly can so you can navigate with

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<v Speaker 3>it and be able to move with it or have

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<v Speaker 3>ownership and then keep it.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred sent you. If you go to McDonald's every

1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:55.360
<v Speaker 2>day at three o'clock, then write about it, cause that's

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<v Speaker 2>your story.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't tell somebody else's story because that kid will find

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<v Speaker 3>out that that's not your story.

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<v Speaker 1>You're lying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's for yo. That's some of the advice

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<v Speaker 2>Jay used to tell me as a kid man. When

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<v Speaker 2>the lines run out, the rhymes run out. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I heard I heard you. I heard you on

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<v Speaker 2>the covered thing. Though Beaker was was mad? Was mad

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<v Speaker 2>real that you said yo? He's like yo, I was wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't bring me. He'd be because I was out

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<v Speaker 2>of control. So he's talking about me how to control.

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<v Speaker 2>He was out of control too. Yeah, I was way

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<v Speaker 2>out of control. I knew I was, but I knew

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<v Speaker 2>how to stay off the off the scene with the

1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:35.240
<v Speaker 2>mind got controlled in the fact, but the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you were a greater picture, A lot of niggas would not.

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<v Speaker 3>I still want to roll like nigga take take me.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew, like listen, I'm I can be a liability.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in the right thing like man, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mentality and what I'm thinking about conjeopardize everything, like

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<v Speaker 2>because remember Jay got to a point where he became

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<v Speaker 2>larger than life like and it's like, I've still always

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<v Speaker 2>got to worry about that. What if somebody tried to

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<v Speaker 2>homie even though he got security for that, But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not relying on them people, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like if some go down, I'm the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready. We always ready everybody. So it's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need me to be around looking at something and

1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:18.760
<v Speaker 2>thinking it's something that is not and then I go

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<v Speaker 2>off the I go left and do something I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do and now would jeopardize everything we work for, everything,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody trying to get to And because I'm still on

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<v Speaker 2>this hood mentality, you know what I was still.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you, and I'm like, yot.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of niggas won't do that because niggas want

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<v Speaker 3>to be understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that a train was too squizzing for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go back to the g right exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt, like word tell me about it's been more

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<v Speaker 2>than a decade. I want to know what made you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what made you getting. I'm an artist with

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<v Speaker 2>the love. But tell me about this new album. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of your new singers too. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why why you stop going?

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<v Speaker 1>Yo?

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<v Speaker 3>You believe you y't talk about you off came about

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<v Speaker 3>this too, because if you because I seen you thirty

1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:13.160
<v Speaker 3>right now off the clip, like right now after becose,

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<v Speaker 3>I seen you thirty records right now working.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, cool, that's great. I don't want you.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's why I did dynamic duos In twenty nineteen. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, yo, why are my colleagues working? I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand who told you to stop making records?

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<v Speaker 1>So COVID came.

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<v Speaker 2>So two years went by, but Kevin Lowes I was

1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:39.840
<v Speaker 2>going to go sign with Alan Grumblack, and then Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Lowes called Alan Sayo Alan, that's too big for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get that ever Sermon album.

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<v Speaker 3>So I signed with three hundred, so I was making

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<v Speaker 3>the record The Cohen sells three hundred, four hundred and

1:04:53.680 --> 1:05:03.200
<v Speaker 3>fifty million to Julie and Mike guys Atlantic. So time

1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:05.720
<v Speaker 3>go by. So what you see Na's doing, I was

1:05:05.760 --> 1:05:08.600
<v Speaker 3>doing that four years ago. So now it just happened

1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:11.560
<v Speaker 3>to be coming out. So I was like, there's twenty

1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:15.000
<v Speaker 3>three bleak about twenty three or twenty four rap groups,

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<v Speaker 3>duos and hip hop if.

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<v Speaker 1>You look it up.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was already gonna be doing how many that

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<v Speaker 3>I can do, So I'm gonna do a Volume one

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<v Speaker 3>and a Volume two. So now was I got volume

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<v Speaker 3>Volume one coming right again. It took a while two

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<v Speaker 3>for the clearances because I was clear I had to

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<v Speaker 3>clear Biggie Tupac, M Prodigy, Nate Dogg, and Sean Price right,

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<v Speaker 3>so all that took time too. So now I gotta say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff didn't come back, some stuff didn't, but the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that's coming out in December fifth on the Dynamic Duels,

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<v Speaker 3>Volume one's Cypress Hills and Op E p M d

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<v Speaker 3>Snoop Dogg and Nate Little Wayne Conway, the Machine Game,

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<v Speaker 3>Read and meth Dog Pound Helter Skelter, Right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right man, shut out Rock and Rock Price rest Rock.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, mom, deep, so it's twelve records coming,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so then and then volume two you know

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be where it is. I already know because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>already got whatever's coming out. But right now December fifth

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<v Speaker 3>for those that was waiting because people be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>Eric is lying, you do he's doing the Detox ship coming,

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<v Speaker 3>but they don't know the parts of again to the

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<v Speaker 3>label going Clarence.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the whole nine so all that should take time.

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<v Speaker 3>So but but but again, I was doing it because

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<v Speaker 3>my colleagues wasn't making records at the time they make

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<v Speaker 3>a records now by the time, nobody was moving.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, if you if, if you need,

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<v Speaker 1>if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't go in in because you don't want to know

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<v Speaker 3>how to make a then you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to be the services for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take care all of it for you. And they

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<v Speaker 2>was down with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right now, that's dope, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I respect like guys like you, like you got Salt

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<v Speaker 2>and Pepper public.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about Pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you know you're all linkeding with the new

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<v Speaker 2>generation and bridging that gap.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what that?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that's like working with the Conway machines and like

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But but'get blead this. I work with everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And one thing about me, like said the respect part,

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<v Speaker 3>if I DM somebody, it's very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get to know. That's right, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>niggas on the respect thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you're hearing right now is just again was

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<v Speaker 3>my error that I already had done. That's why you

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<v Speaker 3>hear the Conway New one, because that's where I was going.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going with to mix the new with it

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<v Speaker 3>with the old exactly, so you were so you were

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<v Speaker 3>hear more of that connection on Volume two, Yes, where

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<v Speaker 3>I would have like a ge Herbal with with somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who who rhyming or cor Day or somebody in that

1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:09.680
<v Speaker 3>type of situation rhyming with new people. And then if

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<v Speaker 3>I do do a Volume three, it'll be me pushing

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<v Speaker 3>the music forward with new people, with two new rappers,

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<v Speaker 3>with an album of this new rappers that you never

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<v Speaker 3>heard before, or the newest of the new you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because once you put the jump out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody like yo, yo yo. When when they heard these names, yo.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a locks record, so I played it yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>on the on their show, Jada was like, holy shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, so, do you want me to keep it

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<v Speaker 3>or you want to change it? Because he forgot what

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<v Speaker 3>this sounds. He's like, no, you keep that one. We

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<v Speaker 3>do another, but keep that one though too. So you

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<v Speaker 3>know again, these people know what I'm capable of. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a person too bleak. Well, you gotta tell me

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<v Speaker 3>it's over. I'm too I'm gonnacity to take it like

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<v Speaker 3>your boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know how to tell me I'm whack like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like I mean tripping. My thing is, you

1:09:08.680 --> 1:09:10.839
<v Speaker 2>can never be whack because you're not a whack person.

1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:12.680
<v Speaker 2>You have to be to be whack. You have to

1:09:12.680 --> 1:09:14.880
<v Speaker 2>be a whack person. Right, Just make a whack rhyme,

1:09:14.960 --> 1:09:19.240
<v Speaker 2>your life, dress club, your lifestyle, everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Got You're right, You're right, and I tell people too.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not going to be the one that's hanging

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<v Speaker 3>on trying to be.

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<v Speaker 1>For you. I ain't gonna mention no name.

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<v Speaker 3>But somebody had said something over fifteen years ago and

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<v Speaker 3>Jay was still getting busy, you know, part of Who

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<v Speaker 3>the Rappers. He said, yeah, man, he should move over

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<v Speaker 3>and ship and let other niggas eat, we know, something like.

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<v Speaker 1>When I heard that, I was like, huh no, you

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<v Speaker 1>step your game up, get in the ring. You get

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<v Speaker 1>in the ring.

1:09:49.400 --> 1:09:52.000
<v Speaker 3>You want the nigga to stop because he's still eating.

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<v Speaker 3>When I heard that, I lost it. But I of

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<v Speaker 3>course I can't go back. I'm not going to go

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<v Speaker 3>and dress somebody. But when I heard that, I was like, plus,

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<v Speaker 3>your excuse me, bless you. But but you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>That Yeah, yeah, you know, we ain't got to say

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<v Speaker 2>no dames. Man, they know the shoe fits.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly right, Yo, What do you want people to

1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:14.680
<v Speaker 1>say about you when it's all over? Like what you

1:10:14.720 --> 1:10:17.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted them to say? Eric Sherman, who he was.

1:10:17.040 --> 1:10:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I was a good dude because I did last shit

1:10:20.040 --> 1:10:23.519
<v Speaker 2>for free and I gave I gave half of my

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<v Speaker 2>money away, but I did shit on the strength. To

1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:32.040
<v Speaker 2>mad people who I don't even know say that he

1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:33.920
<v Speaker 2>was just a good dude, Like my mother was a giver.

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<v Speaker 2>At my mother's funeral, mostly everybody who came out was like, oh, Belinda,

1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:41.280
<v Speaker 2>was a giver. Oh, Belinda was a giver. So I

1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:43.720
<v Speaker 2>learned that my mother was before I got on.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother used to she didn't really like Sometimes if

1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:49.519
<v Speaker 3>she was in her whole check, she would borrow twenty

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<v Speaker 3>dollars to get to the next person that needed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that before. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>so again.

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<v Speaker 3>At one time, that's want people to know that part

1:10:58.439 --> 1:11:01.679
<v Speaker 3>of me like no matter what, And my sister tells people, now,

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<v Speaker 3>my brother is so simple.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you can argue with him or

1:11:05.360 --> 1:11:08.040
<v Speaker 2>be in conference with him because he don't want much.

1:11:08.439 --> 1:11:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Eric is already an introvert, so after that he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to either binge, watch TV or is not that in

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<v Speaker 3>this or if you got jobs to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never late to never never want an interview. I

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<v Speaker 2>never went to late to nothing.

1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:23.839
<v Speaker 3>I've never been late to a performance for a promoter,

1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I respect their time. You got to respect somebody's time.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very important.

1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:31.720
<v Speaker 2>My man and Jo always told me, man, if you

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<v Speaker 2>ain't ten minutes earlier, you ten minutes late exactly.

1:11:34.040 --> 1:11:35.840
<v Speaker 1>And nobody want to work with an artist that they

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<v Speaker 1>got to wait for.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but if anybody, I don't care who to respect

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like it's a story that haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>told that you feel like needs to be still told about?

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Chrirman sermon, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know, at once at one time though

1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:54.519
<v Speaker 3>complete it's so your bleiker. I ain't gonna lie, man,

1:11:55.120 --> 1:11:58.200
<v Speaker 3>it feels it feels normal, you know, with people that

1:11:58.240 --> 1:11:59.880
<v Speaker 3>you don't hang out with, but it's still your bo

1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:03.880
<v Speaker 3>That's how this feels though too. Again, when I see

1:12:03.920 --> 1:12:05.760
<v Speaker 3>some of my people's who I haven't seen in a while,

1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and no matter what if we don't hang out, it's

1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:09.920
<v Speaker 3>still like your butter's still loved.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's real people. But but you actually say say

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<v Speaker 1>it again?

1:12:14.400 --> 1:12:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I say, do you feel like it's a story that

1:12:16.080 --> 1:12:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I had that hasn't been told that at one at

1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:21.360
<v Speaker 2>one time I used to be the underrated story.

1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I used to always be like, damn, why niggas don't

1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:27.200
<v Speaker 3>you know? Not my colleagues. But when you talk about

1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:31.320
<v Speaker 3>other ship, listen, I'm in fifty percent of those lists.

1:12:32.680 --> 1:12:36.360
<v Speaker 3>But are y'all looking at the work work? That's right,

1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:38.760
<v Speaker 3>it's only a few of me, you know. So you

1:12:39.479 --> 1:12:42.360
<v Speaker 3>so if you're gonna talk about somebody because again that's

1:12:42.360 --> 1:12:45.840
<v Speaker 3>why I bring up Larry Smith. Niggas leave them out,

1:12:45.960 --> 1:12:52.080
<v Speaker 3>but sucking sees Slick Ricks Houdini. You know when you

1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:55.160
<v Speaker 3>hear these big records, it's this man. Then you got

1:12:55.160 --> 1:12:59.320
<v Speaker 3>to look at Molly Maul without him sampling like then

1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:02.320
<v Speaker 3>and go forward on that level.

1:13:02.080 --> 1:13:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Probably wouldn't be just Blazes, Kanye.

1:13:04.640 --> 1:13:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, none of us because he was like, yo, I'm

1:13:06.760 --> 1:13:08.160
<v Speaker 2>a sample, you know.

1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:11.000
<v Speaker 3>So again, at the end of the day, I look

1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:16.240
<v Speaker 3>at myself, JERMAINEU Prito, a few others, don't forget. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but Justin was able to come in the era where okay,

1:13:19.640 --> 1:13:21.120
<v Speaker 3>the producers.

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<v Speaker 1>Name was getting recog Now you've got.

1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:31.760
<v Speaker 2>The metro booms and you yeah, you know seducers getting booked.

1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:32.479
<v Speaker 1>For sure, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So again I just I used to look at that,

1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:40.240
<v Speaker 3>but but I'm like this too. The legendary part of

1:13:40.280 --> 1:13:44.519
<v Speaker 3>it is they will know because when it's a need

1:13:44.600 --> 1:13:46.320
<v Speaker 3>to know, they will know that's right.

1:13:47.240 --> 1:13:49.240
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, legends, man, Like I said, E P O.

1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:53.519
<v Speaker 2>D Man, Hit Squad, depth squad, everything, y'all done. Man,

1:13:53.560 --> 1:13:57.400
<v Speaker 2>it's been I've been watching from a far bro and

1:13:57.400 --> 1:13:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I've been a fan.

1:13:58.640 --> 1:14:01.000
<v Speaker 1>You ship when I first met you.

1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:03.200
<v Speaker 2>You treated me like you knew me for a hundred

1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:06.360
<v Speaker 2>years and we've been brothers and been in love ever since.

1:14:07.720 --> 1:14:11.400
<v Speaker 3>In my car I played it, I put a blueprint

1:14:11.720 --> 1:14:14.840
<v Speaker 3>from the top to the bottom. And so so when

1:14:14.880 --> 1:14:17.960
<v Speaker 3>you come up with the rulers back and just keep

1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:20.920
<v Speaker 3>because don't forget it, there's no skip, that's right, you know.

1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So my momentum comes from this. So who in the

1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:31.080
<v Speaker 2>world can lie to somebody's face and say you ain't

1:14:31.120 --> 1:14:32.360
<v Speaker 2>a fan of j You're a liar.

1:14:33.280 --> 1:14:34.880
<v Speaker 1>That's like you.

1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:36.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm about to say. Man, Oh no, I

1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:38.680
<v Speaker 2>watched j be like you're your e.

1:14:38.960 --> 1:14:40.639
<v Speaker 1>So you made all that ship? I member?

1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:43.880
<v Speaker 3>He was say one time after Jones beat Ship and

1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:46.280
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna watch the sow maybe ten fifty years ago,

1:14:46.320 --> 1:14:48.040
<v Speaker 3>and they came out the car, so either me let

1:14:48.040 --> 1:14:49.960
<v Speaker 3>me ask me what he said, Yo.

1:14:49.960 --> 1:14:50.760
<v Speaker 1>You made all that ship.

1:14:51.160 --> 1:14:53.240
<v Speaker 3>So I guess they was playing it in the car

1:14:53.400 --> 1:14:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the day before, playing all E P M D. Because

1:14:56.560 --> 1:15:00.400
<v Speaker 3>because again I'm like, I heard Jay say relax mind

1:15:01.680 --> 1:15:06.200
<v Speaker 3>on twice on the fucking Dynasty album. I'm like, yo,

1:15:06.680 --> 1:15:06.880
<v Speaker 3>you know.

1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I was a big influence to a lot of us,

1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:13.040
<v Speaker 2>bro and like, don't ever think.

1:15:12.880 --> 1:15:17.040
<v Speaker 1>You you're not amongst those, the JD's and the like. Bro.

1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:20.880
<v Speaker 2>When niggas say your name, they know the classics. You pure, yo,

1:15:21.160 --> 1:15:21.880
<v Speaker 2>the classics.

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<v Speaker 1>You rather time.

1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Gotta stop because it's my partner boogie boogie, And he said, Eric,

1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:31.880
<v Speaker 3>everybody who when they're in front of you say the

1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:35.280
<v Speaker 3>same thing, why can't you see it? My sister would

1:15:35.280 --> 1:15:37.559
<v Speaker 3>be like, why can't you see it? My mother used

1:15:37.560 --> 1:15:39.639
<v Speaker 3>to be like, I be like, yo, ma, I saw

1:15:39.720 --> 1:15:42.120
<v Speaker 3>stances last night. She was like, and they saw you,

1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:43.400
<v Speaker 3>they saw you.

1:15:43.479 --> 1:15:45.880
<v Speaker 2>That's right, because you know why you can't see it

1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:48.519
<v Speaker 2>because you living in there. If you took a chance

1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and just step back and just look outside of your

1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:53.599
<v Speaker 2>life and inside.

1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:55.120
<v Speaker 1>You'll see it for all y'all say it.

1:15:55.760 --> 1:15:56.000
<v Speaker 2>See.

1:15:56.280 --> 1:15:58.840
<v Speaker 3>My sister used to get mad too, and I'll be like, yo, Kim,

1:15:58.920 --> 1:16:01.599
<v Speaker 3>I can't help it. I don't know no other way

1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:05.519
<v Speaker 3>because even though mom says it, my humble note comes

1:16:05.560 --> 1:16:09.000
<v Speaker 3>from this. And what's the Simmons said, Eric, you humble

1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:14.160
<v Speaker 3>to a fault because you gotta at a certain way

1:16:14.360 --> 1:16:18.760
<v Speaker 3>sometimes and walk in the room sometimes like you're you.

1:16:19.360 --> 1:16:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Like as we say in My Man, you gotta drag

1:16:21.800 --> 1:16:24.760
<v Speaker 2>your nuts sometime. Let these niggas hold on me too.

1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:25.439
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes when I'm going I take my nuts up right

1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:32.719
<v Speaker 3>now and have them bleeding in the middle of sweet niggas.

1:16:34.880 --> 1:16:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I would do it, not in front of me. I

1:16:39.960 --> 1:16:44.639
<v Speaker 3>would talks. So what's next for you, man? Okay, I'm gonna.

1:16:44.439 --> 1:16:49.519
<v Speaker 2>Pick up the the the eighty eight fresh I got

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<v Speaker 2>coming on Stars.

1:16:51.280 --> 1:16:52.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a four documentary series.

1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I got a thing called Beat some Bars out there

1:16:57.200 --> 1:16:58.280
<v Speaker 3>where I go to ten cities.

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<v Speaker 1>You go on the web, you see it.

1:16:59.280 --> 1:16:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I go to ten City Eas and Bars, Sway the

1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:03.439
<v Speaker 3>executive with my boy Nails.

1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:04.840
<v Speaker 1>We go and.

1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I go, and I go this difference season, and I've

1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:11.599
<v Speaker 3>been out fifty rappers and twenty five producers and then

1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:14.559
<v Speaker 3>we picked one out of each one and then we

1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:16.880
<v Speaker 3>go to ten cities and they all would battle at

1:17:16.880 --> 1:17:19.559
<v Speaker 3>the end of New York and ten producers and the

1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:21.479
<v Speaker 3>in the ten rods and then.

1:17:21.360 --> 1:17:23.639
<v Speaker 2>They get to split two hundred and fifty grand. So,

1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:26.439
<v Speaker 2>so that show is coming out soon too on Netflix.

1:17:26.960 --> 1:17:28.560
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Beat and Bars. So but you go on

1:17:28.600 --> 1:17:30.160
<v Speaker 2>there too, you will see the cities that we went to.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, me Sway and and and Nails shout out

1:17:33.520 --> 1:17:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Sway and nails Man, nails Man, my God, Sway, my guy.

1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Nails on the beat too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, And then I got death Rugs out there,

1:17:42.760 --> 1:17:45.400
<v Speaker 3>which is my sister Kay sermon to who's I'm taking

1:17:45.400 --> 1:17:46.800
<v Speaker 3>part of my percentage back.

1:17:47.120 --> 1:17:51.719
<v Speaker 2>But but, but, but but we do rugs for everybody.

1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has our rugs.

1:17:53.560 --> 1:17:56.639
<v Speaker 3>In their house and got tapping in So go on

1:17:56.960 --> 1:18:00.320
<v Speaker 3>death Rugs dot com or go to death Rugs on

1:18:00.320 --> 1:18:03.240
<v Speaker 3>on Instagram, whatever, and you will see I don't care

1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:07.360
<v Speaker 3>who you name, sports, fucking rappers, fucking whatever we did.

1:18:07.680 --> 1:18:12.599
<v Speaker 3>Everyone has has my material. And then my boy Unique

1:18:12.640 --> 1:18:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Order Sports. You know, Will Will been doing all your

1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:19.800
<v Speaker 3>carts forever, so he's still doing it. Matter of fact,

1:18:19.920 --> 1:18:23.479
<v Speaker 3>he I think he just did. Fact Joe's Rose Royce

1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:28.040
<v Speaker 3>just recently inside the thing, and he had Camelo Anthony's

1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:30.040
<v Speaker 3>cyber truck in there a couple of times.

1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:32.839
<v Speaker 1>So it's always Wills, but me and him as partners.

1:18:32.880 --> 1:18:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Now we got some shit colls to what you say

1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:37.840
<v Speaker 3>it to on a small scale, right, So it's what

1:18:37.960 --> 1:18:40.760
<v Speaker 3>you're saying podcast. We're getting that together, but it's not

1:18:40.800 --> 1:18:42.640
<v Speaker 3>going to be in the like a scale like that.

1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:43.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just something that we're doing.

1:18:44.120 --> 1:18:44.599
<v Speaker 1>As him.

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<v Speaker 3>Will was the first one to do my Car next

1:18:46.520 --> 1:18:48.920
<v Speaker 3>and eighty eight he put my ragtop on and did

1:18:49.000 --> 1:18:50.880
<v Speaker 3>my car, one of the first cars he ever did.

1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:55.760
<v Speaker 3>So so we go back thirty seven years, so so on,

1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:58.960
<v Speaker 3>on on so on that part. Those what we have

1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:02.200
<v Speaker 3>now with I got going on now and along with

1:19:02.280 --> 1:19:07.120
<v Speaker 3>the volume two, my boy Boogie has Boogie Knights coming now,

1:19:08.520 --> 1:19:14.679
<v Speaker 3>Eric Simonsons. Boogie Knights have the underground people like nature,

1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:18.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, Ali Vegas, the.

1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Hoodies, Vegas, I heard that name.

1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:29.560
<v Speaker 2>That Nigga's always been dangerous, the hoodies. Who else Fregol Bass,

1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Ufo Fieve So.

1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah me.

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<v Speaker 3>So all the underground parts that I didn't do is

1:19:38.640 --> 1:19:39.800
<v Speaker 3>on that project too.

1:19:40.400 --> 1:19:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Did the new Eric.

1:19:41.200 --> 1:19:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Sermon produced Memphis Bleak produced by Eric Sermon, all of

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<v Speaker 2>it because listen no, no, listen no, because the days

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<v Speaker 2>of the one producer is gone. That's why Alchemists did

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<v Speaker 2>so much work for the past year. Freddie Gibbs, fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Larry June, you know. And it didn't do most of

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<v Speaker 2>the more deep but again still mob deep and.

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<v Speaker 1>The project with you. I'm working on the project right

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<v Speaker 1>now with cooland dre. I need to. So you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the covering. It doesn't matter the more material you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the one that's saving your publishing, that's right. So

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<v Speaker 3>so you build your catalog up, right. So now you

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<v Speaker 3>got these four or five albums here, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to do this, See the people don't understand. Say, if

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<v Speaker 3>you got this new publishing and you got this here too,

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<v Speaker 3>you might not want to sell your shit, but THEWS.

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<v Speaker 3>But the new stuff I can make a million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>deal with, and then I can I can keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Keep going. That's a game for young people.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch, that's right, keep going, reinvest man, Yo, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you stopping by.

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<v Speaker 1>My brothers. Good seeing you, good health, good spirits.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey listen, man, this is it's a lot and sexy

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<v Speaker 3>right here. But listen, hey, jeez, you better stop. No,

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<v Speaker 3>but listen, man, this is what I tell people all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. Like my birthday is November twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifth, right, oh right there, man, shipday.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll be in a Lanta with my with my

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<v Speaker 3>dad who just turned eighty, and my sisters. My mom

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<v Speaker 3>lived there before she passed away, and so my sisters

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<v Speaker 3>are there.

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<v Speaker 2>My two sisters and then my nieces and nephews. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be sending my birthday there and my son is.

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<v Speaker 3>My twenty year old Earls company, and I be going

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<v Speaker 3>from things given to Miami where I live at to too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got a basil I'll be. I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>there before. I'll be there.

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<v Speaker 3>So so I'm doing you could take this out do

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing Drink Champs Live on the third.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my partners Okay, okay, I'm doing that on the third,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm gonna go around too because I'm recently.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, I don't want to tell these women that

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<v Speaker 2>this is valuable because you're gonna start a frenzy.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen if you see me right like, oh you got

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<v Speaker 3>that's the green Eye bandit to just back it.

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<v Speaker 1>Up and slow it down something, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm not gonna be and none of my cars

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be in the uber because they like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, because I want to pull nothing out.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, they like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo the floors and that niggas be doing, like Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't need that no more like you brother, you

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<v Speaker 4>got you're broke because you think that car is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get you that and then Nigga, right now, that's home.

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<v Speaker 2>Ride a skateboard, get that straight? You out here broke

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<v Speaker 2>yep frying, you don't need none of that. I remember, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>you saying that before we go. I remember I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to Bentley. I'm telling whole my credit wasn't right, y'all?

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<v Speaker 2>Need you the coach sign for the bit for me?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, what you need a Bnley for? You got

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<v Speaker 2>the six hundred. So I'm like, yo, bro, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what type of joints I could get with the big

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<v Speaker 2>he said? You know that all the girls take their

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<v Speaker 2>clothes off the same way, whether you walk, drive, or

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<v Speaker 2>get off the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, so if they get naked different, then I

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<v Speaker 1>get you the benchget Tarius. Same mind.

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<v Speaker 2>How rich you are, there's no rich restaurant for you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. I'm still We're still going to rob or

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<v Speaker 2>say let's or child.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>A rich bathroom for you. You know which store for you?

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<v Speaker 2>They take you in the back door. I'm walking in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still eating with You're still going in the same

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<v Speaker 2>soup to a market with you. You're still going in

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<v Speaker 2>the same clothes. One hundred percent there's no there's no

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<v Speaker 2>for the people. It's just the same guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have money, but I still can shop.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same same store. That's right, man, you already

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is. Man, my brother to thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>let me do a drop, hookie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is rock solid.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it is, brought to you by du

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<v Speaker 2>say Eric Shermon, not Sherman.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to keep put Memphis on blasts right now

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<v Speaker 3>because this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna speak about this. What but Puffy became

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>Alcohol mm hmm e forty Rick Ross.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody that got this, So I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 3>money you're making. But this nigga is lying, yo, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm shopping in the same super boxus.

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<v Speaker 3>Because because Aces Spade, anybody team who has alcohol has paper.

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<v Speaker 3>So Bleak is able behind able to hide behind the

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<v Speaker 3>marriage because now I'm home with the white beet so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not in the street. But that money because Snoop

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<v Speaker 3>Dogg is like that too, Nigga, Snoop, we know you

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<v Speaker 3>paid Nigga, Like, yo, stop it, Bleak. I'm just keeping

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<v Speaker 3>the one hundred whoever is at the job. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>who's ever is an employee and y'all didn't getting no

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas bonus. Somebody speak up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it is he's do save my feet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you can do it with which one? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what a right?

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<v Speaker 3>He dub my name myself twice. Man, I'm the George

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<v Speaker 3>Girvin the rap. Call me the Iceman. It's Eric Sermon,

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<v Speaker 3>the bandit half of e pm D thirty Death Squad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here, right here with Memphis Bleach on rock solid.

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<v Speaker 3>Rock solid, I never knew again. Let me do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, it's good. Okay, you'll cut off. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing all my time. I'm right here.

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<v Speaker 3>He dub my name myself twice. Man, I'm the George Girvin,

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<v Speaker 3>the rap, Call me the Iceman. It's Eric Sermon, the

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<v Speaker 3>bandit half of epm D you thirty Death Squad. I'm here,

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<v Speaker 3>my man, man, my brother Memphis Bleach here on rock solid.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't get it twisted.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he twisted is the name people are so

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but don't get it fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Holler.

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<v Speaker 2>and flagg him