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Speaker 1: What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Big with the year Memphis. I'm back, Gaddy niggas.

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Speaker 2: Notice the difference, just more chron present, no stones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all you already know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Back with another one exclusive rock Solid by yours truly

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Speaker 2: Memphis Bleak. And I tell you everybody sitting on this platform,

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Speaker 2: in one way or another, is my brother and number

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Speaker 2: two they Solid and this man right here is a legend,

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Speaker 2: one of the most part of one of the most

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Speaker 2: illness rap groups in history that I was an ultra

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Speaker 2: fan of growing up, and y'all have no idea. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to be down with the hit squad. Let's welcome

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Speaker 2: Eric Sermon to the building. My Jesus, what's up, my brother?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Before we start? You know, the whole world, say Eric Sherman. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: fat Joe yo, he said Sherman. But he called me

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Speaker 2: that I love him slide yeah right right.

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Speaker 1: I believe everybody say that.

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Speaker 2: The producer, you know, my man Cheat and my good

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Speaker 2: carist who run the show. She was like, listen, bleak, listen,

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Speaker 2: you cannot call that man Sherman in his face.

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Speaker 1: You have to say certain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's how you say it though, blieve you've

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Speaker 3: been saying it like that's how I say it.

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Speaker 2: But it's a I make it easy to say. It's

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Speaker 2: a church church sermon. It's full the same way, so

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Speaker 2: you look at the sermon that's coming from a pastor

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Speaker 2: and people get it like that.

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Speaker 3: He'd be like, okay, now it makes it easier. But

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Speaker 3: you and Joe say Sherman. It doesn't matter. That's so

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Speaker 3: you're my fans.

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Speaker 1: I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like listen for listen, doesn't bleak, like when

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Speaker 3: you anybody that wants to see me, who wants to

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Speaker 3: talk to me, or like even in this is the show.

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Speaker 1: It's the biggest blessing ever.

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Speaker 2: Man. I came in this game in November nineteen eighty seven,

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Speaker 2: you know, so it's twenty twenty five crazy. I was nine, right,

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Speaker 2: so to be here and still be able to what

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Speaker 2: they call relevancy, you know what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying now, So you're a legend. You relevant?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, any time, But I understand that. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you respect it.

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Speaker 3: But when people hear the legend name, they give you respect,

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Speaker 3: shake your hand on. But they don't mean they want

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Speaker 3: to fuck with you. I mean they want you to

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Speaker 3: come to their office. They want to do a deal

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Speaker 3: with you. They want to break bread with you, like

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Speaker 3: they're looking for the next but you never But you.

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Speaker 2: Can't say that because you're want of the legends that

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Speaker 2: been pivoted though you didn't just rat.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, But but what I'm saying, But luckily I'm

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Speaker 3: saying that I got the relevancy because I would be

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Speaker 3: like the other one of my colleagues where they're not

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Speaker 3: doing the business I'm doing because people respect them, but

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Speaker 3: they don't want to do business with them, because what

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Speaker 3: are you doing at this moment?

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Speaker 1: That's right? Yeah, no, think you make the beats.

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Speaker 2: You was the management, You put the crew together, the production, like,

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Speaker 2: come on, bro, you had a lot of different talents

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Speaker 2: than just yes staying on the stage.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, you know what I'm saying, because you

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Speaker 1: gotta be able.

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Speaker 3: To set it second job because this is what he

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Speaker 3: took over to begin with.

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Speaker 2: So this baby, that's right here is where the listen man.

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Speaker 2: Tangible goods.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: You can talk about it too, But something that you

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Speaker 3: can actually touch, that's right, say, is this right here?

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Speaker 2: In alcohol? Nobody has loss? No, I don't give how

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Speaker 2: bad it is. I tell people all the time. One

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Speaker 2: thing you never see go out of business is a

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Speaker 2: liquor store, right exactly? They always do an insurance. Can

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Speaker 2: they burn it down?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: So this right here was where again I tell people

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Speaker 3: too at this they always ask me the question. Besides

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Speaker 3: me in my publisher, I own it, so I'm still

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Speaker 3: gonna make money for however long.

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Speaker 2: It's right, yo, talking about that? How you feel about

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Speaker 2: these guys selling their catalog.

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Speaker 3: I think the gods are selling their catalogs to Memphis.

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Speaker 1: You got.

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Speaker 2: You just happen to be fortunate not to be able to.

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Speaker 2: But you're talking about the old or new either all

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Speaker 2: but the new. The new guys they know that it's

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Speaker 3: They don't care about you know what's in the in

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Speaker 3: the back ahead, about them turning forty, and whether it's

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Speaker 3: not that and this, And then all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: you say, if you got a couple of million dollars,

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Speaker 3: you know how fast it's been a million dollars quick,

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Speaker 3: like like people don't look at it's immediately quick, gone gone,

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Speaker 3: you know, and then then if you ain't, if you

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Speaker 3: didn't people listen, you go, you go to prison because

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Speaker 3: you didn't file, not because you didn't pay. You didn't file,

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Speaker 3: so not even like you ducking that's why you get

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Speaker 3: in trouble at least file. But Uncle Sam is real.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna always be there, so you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: take care of them immediately.

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Speaker 1: That money is not yours.

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Speaker 3: So say if you've got a million, four hundred of

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Speaker 1: That's right. So that's in New York though you're in

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Speaker 1: New York.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Florida now I'm about two hundred of that

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Speaker 2: won't be yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, so niggas told me to. So you've been

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Speaker 3: down there for two years? Now, are you gonna switch

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Speaker 3: this it over? I'm like, eventually I might do it,

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Speaker 3: but you know, we don't like Florida, Miami that too.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, Texas, that's why people went to Texas. There

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Speaker 3: to Texas, Nevada. Right, So so but anyway, the million

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Speaker 3: dollars two can go quick quick. So then if I

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Speaker 3: sell my publishing right now, I have to wait whatever amount.

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Speaker 1: Of years for me to get getting it back, get

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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, the money they gave me, maybe

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Speaker 3: it might last a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: But now you don't get money for ten years. But

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Speaker 2: now my publishing check is not coming. That's right, you know.

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Speaker 1: So me personally, I would never sell it. I won't

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Speaker 1: sell it. But you're fortunate too, So I ask the

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Speaker 3: The reason why is the young one wants the money

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Speaker 3: do at the moment. The older one too needs that

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Speaker 3: money because stuff don't slow down or again, things ain't

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking about even the guys who's selling the

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Speaker 2: publishing for one hundred million dollars. They caught that catalog.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad like everything, I'm not mad. I would

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Speaker 2: never yeah, but bleak man, I would never. I understand it.

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Speaker 2: But if you blow a hundred million dollars, oh it's possible,

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Speaker 2: you know, to look at them, I know.

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Speaker 3: But people got blueprints now, nigga, Like, what do you

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Speaker 3: actually need?

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Speaker 1: Mike said something that was prolific. He said.

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Speaker 3: Once he stopped chasing the paper, he realized that more

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Speaker 3: money would get me a bigger car in a bigger house.

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Speaker 1: Can't do nothing else. I can't. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Once I take care of my face family because I

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Speaker 3: don't begre I can put the money away from my

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Speaker 3: family too. But also my life is shown and my

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Speaker 3: whatever I got and my publishing is theres too. But

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Speaker 3: my thing was though, bleak, you gotta go back though

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Speaker 3: one hundred man, you can leave it to your children.

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Speaker 3: You're right, But you got a hundred million. You you're

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Speaker 3: saying you can spend it, but on.

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Speaker 1: What it bet'll be businesses? Because shit, but what do

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Speaker 1: you need? Who? Me? Personally?

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Speaker 3: Somebody, some rich men said that if you have twenty minute,

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Speaker 3: twenty million liquid.

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Speaker 1: Cash, you should be okay forever forever. That's right. So

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Speaker 1: why are you.

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Speaker 2: Saying to me I would never sell it because me,

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Speaker 2: I leave it to my kids, and my kids can

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Speaker 2: leave it to their kids. It's something that comes for

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Speaker 2: I got, I think about Mike Jack Got think about prints.

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Speaker 2: I know people like that's generational wealth. That one hundred million.

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Speaker 2: You know what if you don't do the right thing

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Speaker 2: where it won't be generation or it be right now

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Speaker 2: and listen convention.

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Speaker 3: The wealth Listen, Bleak is nine years younger than me,

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Speaker 3: right or whatever it is you said. I was, so

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Speaker 3: now you're younger than me. So my thing what he

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Speaker 3: just said, y'all is very very prolific building wealth. How

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Speaker 3: White America does.

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Speaker 1: Is like this.

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Speaker 3: If Oprah Rimpi is a billionaire, she's the only one.

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Speaker 3: There's no wealth that she goes over.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: They, the rob Childs and everybody that you see, may

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Speaker 3: sees knows are too. There is generations that the money

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Speaker 3: flows down, so we would never be able to contend

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Speaker 3: with them because we don't have generations.

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Speaker 1: So all of.

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Speaker 3: Our billionaires, all of them, if they don't do this,

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Speaker 1: No generation wealth.

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Speaker 3: So I understand what you mean by the pass down,

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Speaker 3: but I thought the money too would give them the

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Speaker 3: pass down so they can be secure too. But you

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Speaker 3: really can't trust it, especially with my well, my five.

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Speaker 1: They you know, you know this I got you might

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Speaker 3: Curry Lambeaus thirty thirty one, twenty six, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Four and twenty right, God bless me.

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Speaker 3: So my youngest one is in third year of college,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like looking at them, like, yeah, two of them.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna wild out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they going to do bad.

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Speaker 1: They ain't coming back, yo.

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Speaker 4: But but but but again, twenty million, okay or fifty million,

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Speaker 4: and here's job between.

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Speaker 1: But you know fifty between five.

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Speaker 2: You're right because if I got that, if I got right,

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Speaker 2: I would have to have one hundred but for each

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Speaker 2: to be twenty.

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Speaker 1: So you take a chance on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, man, I'm telling you right, it'll be

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Speaker 2: it'll be worth more just passing down the catalog because

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Speaker 2: each of them can get it divided equally and they

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Speaker 2: can't blow it.

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Speaker 3: They can't blow it because it comes forever. It's right,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think I gotta think about that. But

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Speaker 3: just one hundred million, yo, I gotta think about that.

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Speaker 1: That's that's im.

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Speaker 2: I I made the call when I seen everything going

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Speaker 2: on and I got offered something right, I called my

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Speaker 2: my og oh yo, yo, what you think?

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Speaker 1: What you have me? He was like, I would never,

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Speaker 1: I would never, I would never.

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Speaker 3: I heard stories of you're gonna mention the names that

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Speaker 3: got eighteen a while ago.

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Speaker 1: You know, but you got them.

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Speaker 2: Dream was twenty three million. That's no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: my bad. I think two hundred something dream and then

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Speaker 1: It's there.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you know what I'm saying, if somebody

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Speaker 1: Because that's what I said, fortunate.

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Speaker 2: That's like, they're not giving you two hundred to make fifty.

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Speaker 3: I keep I don't want to make it a race thing.

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Speaker 1: They got the money to wait twice. Right.

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Speaker 2: That long game is that's why I got into, like

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Speaker 3: And you know they're selling the restaurant in the houses, right,

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Speaker 3: Huh did they sell in the house in the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: They Oh, they better not sell a restaurant, they better

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Speaker 2: The house is flip it, Yeah, that's what the equity

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn, right, this is why this is I'm I'm born

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Speaker 3: So again you know my cousins, the Woodson's and my

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Speaker 3: So again, and and and when we was in there

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Speaker 3: And even though we all out there, you know a

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Speaker 2: But but but but but dracking numbers from Siples. All

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Speaker 2: that was And then the plaza was can do Rod Shawn,

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Speaker 2: Steve and all this is wonderful, This is all too

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Speaker 2: but this is plaza, pink houses and Cyprus. So again

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Speaker 2: they wasn't coming, you know, whatever we was, you know,

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Speaker 2: he wanted e Pd to do you got to chill? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so so so we were formed performed that night, and

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Speaker 2: but he was telling fifty like, yo, you know, you

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Speaker 2: them knew, you know, people that you know understood what

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Speaker 2: it was. But again I'm young, so my thought process

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Speaker 2: so so I know that most of these niggas is killers, right,

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Speaker 2: and but it's it's Eric, you know, it's the Rapper.

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Speaker 1: The day two we all still got busy.

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Speaker 3: And then when niggas saw me busting guns and Staten

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Speaker 1: Robbed, so let them things fly. I had to be.

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Speaker 1: I was because I was love. I was embarrassed, That's

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Speaker 3: But I wrote this song like, yeah, I was young

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But again, I went to Staten Island, right, you drove

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Speaker 2: listen what happened?

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Speaker 3: So let me get the story going. So what happened

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Speaker 2: Was in and and let me see Movetings Park Slope.

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Speaker 1: I was in. It's in the record. Ye yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yea yeah, no I was.

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Speaker 3: I was in New Brighton bright right, So okay, it's

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Speaker 3: looking at the girl because the funk about nothing else.

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Speaker 3: Look at not tore down fucking Clinton Hills the sky.

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Speaker 3: I was laying them chicks out.

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Speaker 1: He said. I ain't care about the hood chick.

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Speaker 3: So so when I was when I'll get all right,

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Speaker 3: So when I went to I'm excited to the terrorists

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Speaker 1: When you went.

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Speaker 3: So when I went to to there, I already was

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Speaker 3: with the girls. So now I went back again and

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Speaker 3: my boy, but not my best friend. His father had

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Speaker 3: a church in statnll and so he was the pastor already.

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Speaker 3: Because that's when I already already knew who Tang. I

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Speaker 3: got a picture of me and Whu Tang in nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty nine before they was famous. Because Ray Corner, I

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Speaker 3: was gonna sign him Dolo by myself at the time.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. But so I went back the second time.

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Speaker 3: The nigga that's dead from the Foursome D's it was

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Speaker 3: his birthday, right, so I'm talking with him.

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Speaker 2: I forgot was when it wasn't. Steve was the one

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Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I'm cool. Soon as he left, I

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Speaker 3: I'm gona shoot your man. I come back down the stairs.

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Speaker 3: They got the gun and my man's stomach. So I

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Speaker 3: you know. So now I'm like, yo, this is not happening.

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Speaker 3: He said, take your chain off. I had a big chain,

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Speaker 3: I had some rings, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I had a thousand dollars on my chest and

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Speaker 2: I had the Benzi box on me.

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Speaker 1: We had you were too young.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about the box and bock. When you

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Speaker 3: take the radio out with you, you know, you take it

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Speaker 2: So sorry, So now he snatched my chain and take

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Speaker 3: Then he shoots in the air blop. So when I

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Speaker 3: I was in the wrong spot.

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Speaker 3: While I'm talking to him, I see a lady in

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Speaker 3: So now he got me snatched up, and that so

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you finish.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me you shot at the foursome being no,

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Speaker 2: this is I just wanted to make sure.

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Speaker 2: Paris gets the phone call from from from from from

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Speaker 2: I said. So I lied to Parish like you robbed me.

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Speaker 2: I was embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: You know e P M D.

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Speaker 2: No, don't get close you might get shot. You know

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Speaker 2: I got caught slipping. So now my embarrassment. I go

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Speaker 2: to Fort Greene. I go get Hawking Dog. Oh you

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Speaker 2: into the trenches, you in the ship. So Hawking Dog.

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Speaker 2: Niggas know them so that we can know has them.

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Speaker 2: These niggas. It got busy right, and people know them too.

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Speaker 2: So my cousin went to go get my cousin Jammel.

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Speaker 3: When they picked up Hawking Dog, we rode back to

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Speaker 3: to stat Now on that Saturday, another a weekend, so

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Speaker 3: now we didn't care. So we just walked in just

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Speaker 3: to be walking in, looking around this and that that

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Speaker 2: And then when the club let out, pulled the bens up,

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Speaker 2: I was in my own car, popped the trunk, undea,

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Speaker 2: The club just shotting up the outside whatever.

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Speaker 1: That and that.

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Speaker 3: So because we had to make a statement, we could

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Speaker 2: We got all the way from stopping now and back

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Speaker 2: across the bridge in Brooklyn, and nobody knew.

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Speaker 1: There was no cops, no nothing like.

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Speaker 2: This is not that this, but it got back that

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Speaker 2: Eric came came here with three niggas and shot up

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Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy. It was putting in that.

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Speaker 3: Work because this is what I had to do, you know,

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Speaker 3: was dumb and stupid. But again I was embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was embarrassed because in Paris knew, and I was

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Speaker 2: embarrassed because I got robbed.

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Speaker 1: And then because me being me, he's a young kid,

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Speaker 1: like that's how yo, bro, I've been in this situation.

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Speaker 1: It happens.

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Speaker 2: There's always a girl, it's always a hood you not

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Speaker 2: from and you blind after it happened to me. That's

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Speaker 2: why I wrote the song. It's one rule, never get

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Speaker 2: caught slipping.

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Speaker 3: I never thought I never had because then I judge

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Speaker 3: the book bos cover. I'm in stott now because it's

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Speaker 3: not booking, it's not Queen's, it's not Bronx, it's not hard.

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Speaker 1: This is stat now.

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Speaker 3: So I judged the book bos cover knowing rock Kim

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Speaker 3: just said too, it ain't where you're from, where you at.

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00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: It's not that I didn't even put that.

442
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: Twisted and think stat Allen is I know that now like.

443
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: Now, it had some of the craziest niggas. They couldn't come.

444
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 3: Across the way they look at the way they looked

445
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 3: at long Alan, how the boroughs looked at huss As

446
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: being being like that.

447
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: That's what I took to. I took it for granted.

448
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: Where I was at outside jewelry, money boom boom, outside

449
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: talking regular nigga, and this nigga was hungry.

450
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, that's how it goes. Bro Damn, that's crazy.

451
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: That was an ill story, man, You.

452
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: Know you let that thing fly that Now.

453
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: There's a there's a few niggas that I ain't gonna

454
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: mention no names.

455
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: Chill, we ain't gonna get into that. Man.

456
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's take it back because e pm D

457
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: y'all was like, what not gonna say the first group

458
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: because you had Beastie Boys, But y'all did your thing.

459
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: Y'all was like a major impact on Death Jail. What

460
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: was that like when y'all first got well?

461
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: The craziest the fact that we got signed again the

462
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 3: demo records, the true record. We chilled a sixty eight

463
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: camarow that parish had where we had stripped the little

464
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: top off, had it painted, fixed the engine, put rims

465
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: on the whole nine, and we drove it and the

466
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: car did conk out, you know the way the way

467
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: the story says it demo, So it did happen. But

468
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 3: we went to labels back then you would look at

469
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: the album covers.

470
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: And then address would be on there. So we went

471
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: to three of them, and then the third way we went.

472
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: To Sleeping Back of Records, Fresh Records, and they and

473
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: they called us back and said, yo, we want to

474
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: sign y'all. But after that, you know, Rush management had

475
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: every group, so everybody was on rush.

476
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: Don't matter. I remember yo yo.

477
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: There's a picture with all rush groups out there, rock Him,

478
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: King One, d MC, every everybody was on the one

479
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: block Elizabeth Elizabeth Street and were all out there.

480
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: But I was cars. Oh no, no, I ain't.

481
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Never it's a short block Elizabeth Street.

482
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: So we out there that one with the cars. So

483
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: that's out there. I don't know.

484
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: I only saw it once, but it's crazy. But run

485
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: dem was getting to go on tour.

486
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: One call hustle, listen, go get them boys because they

487
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: saw how fast we was blowing the as far as

488
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: we it was like soon as soon as it's my

489
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: thing and you were customer drop, it was over. And

490
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 3: then the album dropped, you got to share, it was over.

491
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: So so run dm C knew the same way that

492
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: when Drake came out, how Kanye was like, I shoot

493
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: the video. Your competition is coming, right, run dm C

494
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: knew that this was the end of an error coming

495
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 3: probably for them because Rock Him changed the game. And

496
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: then oh, who's these new dudes from Long Island that

497
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: we we patterned our whole self around them, right So then,

498
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: so I don't abel didn't have enough money for us

499
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: to have a tour bus, so we rode on run

500
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: DMC's bus. Can you imagine being the kid go forget

501
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: me and pirates shove that car.

502
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: Not only to go get a deal.

503
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: We wanted to go pick up Sucking Seas from a

504
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: record store called Rock and so Oh, because we didn't

505
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: have no store on that, so we went to Manhattan

506
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: to pick up the Run DMC second c single.

507
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: It's like that on the other side.

508
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: So imagine you're getting the call and now the whole

509
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: tour EPM, d J, Jeffin, the First Prince, Public under

510
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: meet and the EPMD. So it's four of us and

511
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: sometimes it would be Obstatasonic. So we all on nineteen

512
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: eighty eight called the Runhouse Tour. But I'm on Run

513
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 3: DMC's bus.

514
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even have your own bus. Now we're

515
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: too young for that. I don't have the money for that,

516
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

517
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: But then on the tour, First Prince says, we want

518
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: to stop and tell y'all congratulate EPMD for number one

519
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: album in the country. True, so we are don't beget

520
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: We're on tour with the biggest groops in the world,

521
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: but we number oh no, you know EPMD's exploded.

522
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: So man so all you got the chair check up

523
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: my hey.

524
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: When them records came out, bro, those just the type

525
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: of records that made me say, damn, I want to do.

526
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: This ship right because the first I keep it one

527
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: hundred after the first Strictly Business album was made, we

528
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 3: go back and we got the jinks.

529
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Nothing's happening, couldn't make nothing was working.

530
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: Luckily, I was in Europe and I heard groove Me

531
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: and the guy played this song called bye Bye Bye

532
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: by Soul, the soul called fair play. So when nothing

533
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: was going to partly look at that record I brought back.

534
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: I bought that back running and it made it nice. Nope,

535
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: whatever made it back, that's what you're saying.

536
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, blessed, Yeah, appreciate you.

537
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: Oh no, yo yo yo listen, I want my thousand

538
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: n I want my thousand dollars back.

539
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: Yo.

540
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that.

541
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: What I did was, I know he didn't mean the

542
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: mean to play me, but I wouldn't have been mad.

543
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: But he said, Yo, I'm gonna bet you one thousand

544
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: dollars that niggas say, so uh he's and I been away,

545
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: and I said, yo, they ain't gonna sing it. You

546
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying because we in a crowd, which

547
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: I figured is young, you know.

548
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: Just like music is out there. So that's cool. It's

549
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and one.

550
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: So after y'all get on, we come on and do

551
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: what you say in part, and the part comes up,

552
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: the whole National Coliseum sings the part right, So he

553
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: takes my thousand dollars on the US and then throw

554
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: it in the audience.

555
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube, bleak no way, so you don't remember that,

556
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: so you never knew it. Oh can. We made a

557
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: bet that that night that they were gonna say.

558
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: So when you look at the thousand dollars that he threw,

559
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: that was my thousand that I bet him.

560
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: He's a always takes somebody's money and give it away.

561
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: So on YouTube, I watched all the time he threw

562
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: it in the audience, you know whatever. So again, but

563
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: going back to them, going back to that, we had

564
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: a little bit of it was going to be like

565
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: a sophomore jinx. I'm like, damn, this is going to

566
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: be so so so then demos start coming and these

567
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: things came after. But in the beginning, nothing was working.

568
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: But luckily I brought that record back.

569
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: From the Europe. Man, that's crazy man, that record. Did

570
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: y'all know?

571
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: Like, of course, it's like me asking myself the same question,

572
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: but I have to ask you, did you even think

573
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: that y'all was making something as timeless as you did?

574
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: Nah?

575
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: But we knew that we knew what we wanted to hear,

576
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: and we knew that it sounded dope to us. Don't forget,

577
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: nobody knows believe what you're doing until you send it

578
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: to them. That's right, until they hear it. So you

579
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: have to fuck with it first. So if you if

580
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: we like it, then we're going with it. You know,

581
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: the label don't know the day, okay, and what we

582
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: what we bring it to them? Somebody there wasn't no

583
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: leo like that's not good. This is whack, you know,

584
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: So they wasn't likely or most labels, you know. So

585
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: so they bring what you what you bring them and

586
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: they were like yeah, So one thing about us.

587
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: E pm D was the last group to come out

588
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: in that time. So I was able to hear MC light,

589
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: KOs One Rock, Kim Bismarcky Caine, all these people I

590
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: was able to hear first Shan they was so now

591
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: if I'm looking back and we like this, we can't

592
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: be whack.

593
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: I got all to look at.

594
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: So so now we got my mentor two towns away,

595
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: which is rock kim So this is wined Inch, then

596
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: in between this deer Park and then they would get

597
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: a couple.

598
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: Then there's Brentwood.

599
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: So that's what made me really go because once I

600
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: heard rock kim My DJ Diamonds like listen nickname rock

601
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: Wind that came out.

602
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: The name was his name was rock Win. So he's like, yo,

603
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: gun and rock Wind came out. He rhymes slow like

604
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: you do because I had with a list, So I'm

605
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: rhyming slow. So when I heard turned ba check out

606
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: my melody and knowledge the car, I'm.

607
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: Letting knowledge and my name is the R A k I.

608
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: So now I'm like, yo, Nick Knacked, Patty Whack, get

609
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: on Yo.

610
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm rhyming like this too.

611
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, we can make it because he's

612
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: I came in the door. I said it before, so

613
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: we're like, m c's out there, you better stan clear

614
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: e P M D is the world.

615
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: So so so so so we knew that.

616
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: So we knew that, Okay, the we can make it

617
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: because he's also from long Island, even though we publicly

618
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: became Bizmarck.

619
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: He came, this is all Long Island.

620
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, so so so a strong so

621
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because if you take Long

622
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: Island out the map, it's a problem.

623
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: You know, the day lives, the you know.

624
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: The.

625
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: Bus and the yeah who you know. So it was

626
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of people that you know, the Keith Murrays

627
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: and case the whole nation.

628
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Man at that point, like my g they call our

629
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: era the Golden Era. I ain't gonna discredit it, but yeah,

630
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Arab Blue, that's the golden Too many gem rappers, you

631
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, paved the way for guys like

632
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: us to pave the way for the other guys. You

633
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: gotta understanding without job when this bro this is special ed.

634
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: This is cousie wrap, this is n w A, this

635
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: is again.

636
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: They said like this is given hammer, this is this

637
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: is all, this is forty or this is on that side.

638
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: Ye.

639
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: The too many people that came in the late eighties

640
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: and then eighty eight, it was everything. Everything that sparked

641
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: what you hearing and seeing came from that year and

642
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: not ever, mostly that.

643
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Year eighty eight.

644
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: That period the drugs was crazy, Cracker is eighty eight,

645
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: This is, this is, this is this.

646
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: Year was the Dapi Dan gold fronts. Everything was.

647
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: Rock, Mike Tyson at the Uptown, at the Beverly, the clubs.

648
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: All this is eighty eight was the Yeah.

649
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: But I don't give a funk with niggas talking about

650
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: you said the nineties they missed, but the Golden era

651
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: to me, not because.

652
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: I was this man's that.

653
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it was man, I agree, bro, because I was

654
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: a shorty trying to imitate emulate everybody.

655
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Y'all were doing.

656
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Man like yeah with the change, the cars, you get

657
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: your album cover and bashing your hold on.

658
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: These niggas ain't sitting on top of the bed. Listen.

659
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: This is what they said to somebody from the Choice said,

660
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: we thought y'all was drug dealers, Yo, so so so.

661
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: You rock Kim and Eric B.

662
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: Of course when they covered with remember they got the

663
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: big change on their.

664
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: Now the fucking Dapper Dan. It's not that Buci joints on. Yeah,

665
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: Me and Parison on the car with the jewelry on,

666
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what do you mean to say?

667
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: Yo?

668
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: We y'all look because that's what we It was before

669
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: rappers came to look was from the street.

670
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Yes, so now it reverts like you know what I mean,

671
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: the streets emulate what the rappers is now. But back

672
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: in the day, the rappers imitated what streets the drugs

673
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: that that was it. That was the swag of y

674
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: and they got mad.

675
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: When hip hop came.

676
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: We took the girls, and we took the hype, yo,

677
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: that You're right.

678
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: I ain't ever think about it like that.

679
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: You're right, y'all were y'all were on TV all day,

680
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: girls shouting on the black like I'm with you every day.

681
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: But Homie just was on my on the on the box.

682
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: I got a check him. Remember this was the days

683
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: when you had the call call, order that video on

684
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: your phone.

685
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: I remember all that.

686
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: I remember fucking pulling over for that, fucking for that

687
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: fucking phone, and so on and so on.

688
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: The street nigga.

689
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: Telephone, niggaya with the quarters, nigga like yourn, yeah about

690
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm talking about calling period, the phone book, about that post,

691
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: the phone booth, nigga, a call phone.

692
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: You right, cell phone came the lawyer. You had to

693
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: call your lawyer. You had to pull over to the store, yo.

694
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: You know that's crazy.

695
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: You know how much the brick phone was, yo, the

696
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: brick alone and then the phone.

697
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: Yo.

698
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: We had two thousand dollars phone on the regular in

699
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: the nineties.

700
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the on the regular, like we until my

701
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: biggie said, phone bill about two g's flying till somebody

702
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: my man was getting the burners back then and then.

703
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Fixing the phones.

704
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: You was lit pay like seven hundred dollars board and

705
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: it was on to you lost, go on to your lost.

706
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the phone was on to your boogie.

707
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: We had two thousand dollars phone bills twenty five hundred

708
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: three grand all the time.

709
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: Nigga has in every month to have a cell phone.

710
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: Yo.

711
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Ship you were what made you transfer from because y'all

712
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 2: dominated of course me and y'all mark on the hip

713
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: hop rap scene.

714
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: But then you just became like the this producer, Like

715
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: what what was that?

716
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: Well, after the group broke up and I was I was,

717
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: I was released from the handcuffs. I went to Atlanta

718
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: right just because I was like, you know, even though

719
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: I knew that, okay, you can't leave, so they were

720
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: going to come and get me anyway, But I wasn't

721
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: going to sit there. Let them come and get me

722
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: who because they had the three signed statements on.

723
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Me who riding on?

724
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: You know, the thing that went down with E. P.

725
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 3: M D to break up to happening to begin with?

726
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I was lost, like who coming to

727
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: get you?

728
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: Right?

729
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: So so, but that's all on the on the it's

730
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: on YouTube, yeah, the story. But again I wasn't gonna

731
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: let them just sit there and knowing they got three

732
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: signed statements, that means they can railroad me to you know,

733
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: even though I know that again, you know, somebody had

734
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: just made a whole thing up such and such, but

735
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: niggas will believe it, you know. So he ended up

736
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: being not show. So anyway, I went to Atlanta.

737
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: So when I went to Georgia, I had went to

738
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: Georgia earlier and met some girl you know, right, but

739
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: so so, and then I met the niggas who I

740
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: did the rim shot with. Okay, niggas from Detroit, so

741
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: Greg and them. So I met him, so I knew

742
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: I had a place to go too, So so I

743
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: chilled there. Next thing, you know, puff called first for

744
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: for the Who's the Man soundtrack? And I made my

745
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: first single, hitting Switches right, oh, ship that was I

746
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: didn't even know that, so I made hitting switches and

747
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: then when I shot the video it was Puffy and

748
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: Hight Williams day first ship.

749
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: That's when I tell that Biggie. Everywhere I was shooting,

750
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: Biggie was next to me. Everywhere I went.

751
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: He was again because Boogie had he had told Tracy

752
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: Waples kicked me on the Eric Sermon album.

753
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 3: Right, but I already had my own coul Reggie dods

754
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: Keep that already had rappers. But but Biggie told Tracy,

755
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: please get me on that album, you know so, but

756
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: it didn't happen. But anyway, that's when Atlanta was did

757
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: they kind of opened up to me. Was when the

758
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: record come up and be like Atlanta's own Eric Sermon.

759
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: I'm like what the next thing, you know, they they

760
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: papers call the Constitution. I'm on the front page. Eric

761
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: Surmon meus to Atlanta, and I'm like, yo, what's going on?

762
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: So they embraced me so that when I got there,

763
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: I met Dallas Austin, and Dallas had gave me one

764
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: of his rooms out the blue just as being a fan.

765
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: He said, Yo, I got the ship Collate Records. I

766
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: got these groups. Cha's a lingo and the lego. Can

767
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: you do something for me? Remember illegal? So so I'm like, okay, whatever.

768
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: Liljam Mormon Leak was bad at fourteen, I'm talking, I'm

769
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: bad kids though.

770
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: They it was bad, bro, it was that era. It

771
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: was the early nineties.

772
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: So so so they lived with Lisa Lopez god bst

773
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: to Dad no way right, So so, so theday was

774
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: so Lisa had took them.

775
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: So they were like, your uncle e, you're coming over.

776
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: That's when I was with Lisa for a little bit.

777
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I always thought was signed to the Hit Squad. No,

778
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: they were signing the Rowdy. That's crazy.

779
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: So now so now I'm over there as uncle E.

780
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: So now it's me, Jamal Malik and Lisa living in

781
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: the in the hotel, right, don't because I just got there.

782
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have ship.

783
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy and so and so so I'm in

784
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: a hotel too, say in that hotel.

785
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: But once Lisa let me come through, then I'm staying there.

786
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

787
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: But but I ended up doing Lili Zayne had a

788
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: group too, So I did all of that was on

789
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: Rowdy because the Downers looked out for me. So everything,

790
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: and Nick, sure, you know, I got a call from

791
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: Shack too, so I was getting my money up.

792
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: Who's the man was gonna say? Five hundred Shack? I

793
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be a big check at Jive,

794
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: seventy five hundred dollars.

795
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 3: I did full records in there, right, and I wrote

796
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: and I did Outstanding. There was going platinum, and then

797
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: I did Malik and Jamaar and Lego. They ended up

798
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: winning the Billboard Award for a week. It is busy,

799
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: so so again, so all this stuff was going on,

800
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: and that's how my ship put like that. I had

801
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: just started doing everybody, so anybody didn't wrap that was crazy.

802
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: I was already doing Redman, but then the how High

803
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 3: thing came around when I went back to New York

804
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: to go visit.

805
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: So when the.

806
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: Studio then I made how High and after that then

807
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: Reggie's Muddy Waters it was time to come.

808
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: So I ended up doing that.

809
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: So so we're not going to skip over Radman like

810
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: he just so regular artists.

811
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: I signed, Yeah my man from the block, rad Man,

812
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: you just keep going. Yeah, Reggie, y'all changed the game

813
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: with Red Man.

814
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: Bro Like rappers, wasn't you really using that funk doc

815
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: like that Bro y'all brought that new sound.

816
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: And then Bro Reggie was I ain't gonna lie man

817
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: to me.

818
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: Before Jay was Red, he was the idlest rapper I

819
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: ever heard when I was a kid.

820
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad we sawing this right now. Word up.

821
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: I tell you no man I ever heard when I

822
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: was a kid.

823
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: It was another rumor, but I think that Jay would saying,

824
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: because it's nothing bad. Jay at one time, I think

825
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: we actually do a record, and he was like, I

826
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: respect him too much to rock with him.

827
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: You know.

828
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: And we was at a Vegas fight in Vegas too,

829
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: don't forget.

830
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm over here with this chicken named Nikki.

831
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: You always got them chicks, man, and it was it

832
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: was baby Mother's friends.

833
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: So Dame's over here too, and Dame is saying, Yo, Jay,

834
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: what album we got in the cars? He says, all,

835
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: we got Redman in the car. Ya, I'm telling yoyo.

836
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I was bugging out because I'm like, Yo,

837
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: that's what y'all playing.

838
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Say Yo, Yo, we're playing Redmend playing Reggie in the car.

839
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you a story, right it's

840
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: ill because you signed some of the illest people man

841
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: from Radman than Keith Murray. The most beautifulest thing in

842
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: the world, made you with y'all with the hit Squad

843
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: was special?

844
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: Man? Did you hear me that? What was the song

845
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: that had bangers? Man? I wrote a verse to that

846
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: as a shorty.

847
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: Just imagine that I was in that crew. Trust me, Bro,

848
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite beats.

849
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: I still to this day. How nobody never sampled that.

850
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: I made head bangs for ice Cube? No way, I

851
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: never got into him. I wasn't even making it for us.

852
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: That was the last song that e PM DV recorded

853
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 3: for the fourth album before the Break.

854
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: Yo, Bro, I'm telling y'all changed the game. But listen right,

855
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm hearing every I'm hearing everybody, Keith Murray listening to

856
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: all the music. Mind you, I'm a fan of anybody.

857
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: They used to have this event called the Gavin Yeah, yeah,

858
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: what right? So I'm like Jack and Gavin. Remember I

859
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: was fourteen years old. I'm not even supposed to know you.

860
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: How you get out there anyway? Jay Jay? This is

861
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: when this is before. Ain't no nigga, none of that.

862
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: This was Yeah, this was n ninety four, this Dead

863
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: pressent because ninety six, no this Remember the album came

864
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: out ninety six Dead Presence, I believe came out the

865
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: end of ninety four, beginning of ninety.

866
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: Five, ninety four. Yes, yeah, I'm telling you in the

867
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: ninety four beginning.

868
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: I was out there for a whole year before y'all

869
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: got before Will Soccleoft did that, because you know Will

870
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: Soccer lof is Stephen back Records.

871
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: That's where I come from. Oh, I ain't know, I

872
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: don't know who put.

873
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: The event together, but I'm gonna tell you how I

874
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: met Keith Murray.

875
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Right, so I'm listening to y'all.

876
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: Right, We're going to fourteen, fifteen years old, going to

877
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: New Orleans.

878
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Were deep.

879
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: We on the plane, we land, we wait, we in baggage, clang,

880
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: we get in our bags and then they go Keith

881
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: Murray in though. So then all I see is Dame,

882
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: you'll hold my jewelry jay a bike? Take it off

883
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: their no, because they had start fighting. So that I'm

884
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: standing there like, yo, niggas.

885
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: Got beef with Keith hurry, and I thought this is

886
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: the most ain't get you know the story?

887
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: No who, So listen, wait, I gotta give you that

888
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: perpose what happened, because this is crazy.

889
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: I hear about I hear about that part.

890
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: Murray was going to some type of restaurant where Damon

891
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 3: was going to to. Murray saw some girl come by,

892
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: So Murray is an alecs he hits Dame's car. H

893
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: So now they end up going to some type of

894
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: brunch a luncheon. So they're both in the same spot.

895
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: So Dame, it's like, Yo, they're gonna hone me right there.

896
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: This is not that and this so all of a sudden,

897
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: Murray hit Dame over the head with the bottom in

898
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: the club.

899
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: No way.

900
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I I knew I heard that incident, but I

901
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: ain't never know where it happened.

902
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: So what you're saying, I don't know about that part.

903
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 3: I know what happened with that.

904
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: Yo, bro and New Orleans fresh off the plane on site.

905
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: Now mind you, I never met Keith murd It's my

906
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: first time.

907
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: On the plane leaving the Projects.

908
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, this is how it is when

909
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: you get off the plane. This just like the Projects, y'all.

910
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: I swear to God, the niggas was rumbling in the air.

911
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: I never heard that. I swear bro.

912
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: That's my first time ever Keith Murray but that but

913
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 2: that's where it came from. I ain't know that's where

914
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: it started from here in his car, but I was bugging,

915
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: like when the fuck we got beef with Keith?

916
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: Yo?

917
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: But nah, but y'all, man, they hit squad. What was

918
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: that like, man? Because you said illegal and it was bad.

919
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: Now you say Keith, Well see Mary and legal and

920
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: and and I Leegal came after the breakup. So his

921
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: card is E P M D dis effects K Solo

922
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: and the Solo so so you had.

923
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: I had you know that effects to so.

924
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: So Solo was unique because of the spelling and like

925
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: Nas is one of his favorite rappers. Because Solo said

926
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: he was he would do something like it wasn't me.

927
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: The rhyme did it, so we never heard nobody speaking

928
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: third person and had the rhyme as a character doing damage.

929
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: So he had the rhyme as one of his boys.

930
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: You know when he said, so, Nas.

931
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: Always speak about I was a fusitive before Soul stories too,

932
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: and the technique and what he was doing and that's

933
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: effects with the wiggedd wow, you know so this is

934
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 3: and the Redman. So all my MC's were had styles

935
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: that effects was under you two.

936
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: It's his squad. I told you his squad.

937
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: I didn't know yet, yo, that's how you know I didn't. Yeah,

938
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: but that just thinking that's feature infany or something. I

939
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: didn't pay attention to labels. Everybody that signed to me, Reggie,

940
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: Doctor and Solo. No, man, you gotta be crassing the

941
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: greatest fucking is in hip hop. Bro. Then that's why

942
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: you hear my voice. They weren't effects. Some live effects

943
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: snapper neck for some live effects.

944
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: That's me, so exchange the game.

945
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: So they did. They Doctor Becks did something for E. P. M. D.

946
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: In the squad that was dope because they went platinum.

947
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: So they opened up another lane that we didn't have.

948
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 3: So when course over came boom, you know, gold album,

949
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 3: this is not that and this partinum ops or whatever. They

950
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: open stuff up because they I mean, they were spring Break.

951
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: They were every white kids. They was just everywhere everywhere.

952
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: So so that was But but the Death Squad is

953
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: where Keith Murray and the Leader came.

954
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: Two squads Squad and the Depth Squad. Yeah right, you're

955
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: right yo, y'all fucking yo, bro. Legendary Ship gee, they

956
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: gotta put you on the top with the legendary CEOs

957
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: of the game. A pioneer of some of these probably

958
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't be no p no, no cash money, none of

959
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: these type of CEOs. You one of the first, Like

960
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: think about it, you give who else Michael Bivens was

961
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: signing it? Yeah, you know what you like, It wasn't

962
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: really Russell Simmons. Of course they were signing everybody, but

963
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: it wasn't artists signing.

964
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: Because don't forget, niggas was Don't forget. I had Dave

965
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: Hallster too. That's depth squad, damn.

966
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: So so you.

967
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: Got the whole Monica, Dave Hallfono Hunter, all these people

968
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: that too was under my monica, and I had other

969
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: people that was coming.

970
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Don't forget.

971
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: I could have signed Game, I could have signed Luda,

972
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: I could have signed Wu Tang, I could have signed

973
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: Rick Ross.

974
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: Because these niggas was all with me. Fifty was on.

975
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: All these people was.

976
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: People that came to me and I produced it records

977
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: set on my step on my basement floor. So so

978
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: so you and then you got people like hit Maker

979
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 3: who look for me for six months. He's one of

980
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: the biggest songwriters in the world. But all these bleak

981
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: that you can have some people that talk about some people.

982
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 3: But when you watch the Wu Tangs series, that's why

983
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: my name and stuff and.

984
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Your appeals all through it.

985
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: Because again I was gonna sign and Ray Kuarn speaks

986
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: about this, Yeah, I was gonna s sound with every

987
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: the game talks about this. Yeah, I was gonna siund

988
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: with Everic don't.

989
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: Forget me Thisrius b I g was brought to me

990
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: at a barber shop in Brooklyn. I did not listen

991
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: to him. You look, yo, I don't got no cat

992
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: with me. Ever Lion, you ain't listening yo. Big album

993
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: was circulating Brooklyn streets before it came out.

994
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: He went platinum.

995
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: Before, but he wasn't nowhere near being looked at.

996
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: He was still with seeing the basement. But the barber too, that.

997
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: Knew something, that knew somebody who knew him. But get

998
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: your Eric's here, bring Biggie through and I was like,

999
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: get my hair cut, doing me. I'm about whatever you Okay,

1000
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: you're going to get with the check exactly. Damn man By.

1001
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: I got dubbed because of a chick she had that

1002
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: I know.

1003
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know the.

1004
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that was on my mind at the time,

1005
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: but I was already me had bread.

1006
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't forget he was on that rapper ship,

1007
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: but I had my own. Yeah, so you wasn't really

1008
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: like I'm good. I don't know, but.

1009
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: So and that's and then, yo, there's one person that

1010
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: didn't make it that you probably never heard of, but

1011
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: go back and listen to him.

1012
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: Jam message. Jay brought me this kid named Joe Sinister.

1013
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: I remember I heard of him. No, I heard of

1014
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: Joe Sinister. He was nice. He was nice. It's Joe

1015
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: sending stuff.

1016
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: He came in with Onyx and Redman said, Eric, listen,

1017
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: I know I'm mem but there's some nigga with honors

1018
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: with a backpack on it.

1019
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: This nigga is Dan nice. Yeah, he was nice metaphorically, Yo.

1020
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: He on my soul album too.

1021
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: That's why I couldn't even look at the biggie because

1022
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: now I got my uncle. And then I got this

1023
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: Joe Cents guy on my album too, because Jay came

1024
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: to the studio with him and we having to make

1025
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: a record. I like it, and I'm like, you know what,

1026
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it because I'm here and metaphors that

1027
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 3: Reggie didn't do yet. And if Reggie brought him to me,

1028
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: what you're gonna mean? This is Reggie, he said, Eric,

1029
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna It's a nigga with Homeboy.

1030
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like.

1031
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: On the block with Christine spitting the Green Peace soup.

1032
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: I cocked nines smoking Nick Nick Nick with the Lothians.

1033
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm like snigger, yo. He he was.

1034
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: So far out there, he said, I'm gonna shoot you

1035
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 3: in the head. The bullet is in there, paying rent

1036
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: in the brain as a vacancy, like the far it

1037
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: is not. I can't rhyme it, but the way that

1038
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: he put it together, suck my dick, fuck the ship

1039
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: forkx plicit what like? He was way ahead of time,

1040
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 3: way ahead of his time.

1041
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I.

1042
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: Know some guys like that from the Prick, from the

1043
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 2: projects that never never got a shot, never a head

1044
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: of day time?

1045
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: Man, what you think? What what would you say? Cannabis too?

1046
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: He was death squad too, yo. How y'all lay him

1047
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: getting that drama then? Man? He was He left and

1048
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: got went to White Cliff.

1049
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: That's what I'm about to say. Yeah, why Cleff gave

1050
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: him that old you can.

1051
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Give me that money. Give the money.

1052
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: He let l L get that boy work.

1053
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: But if listened to the beginning of his stuff on

1054
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: the radio, he's like, he says death squad and then

1055
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: he goes to rhyme had cannabis?

1056
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Was a fucking assassin? Was he was a problem. And

1057
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: again you gotta listen, man. LL don't give a who

1058
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: it is.

1059
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: Don't forget LL was like Fox Brown on the record,

1060
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: MM conquer the world, iced t hammers and ice sheese girl.

1061
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: Still he don't care female raptors too.

1062
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Yo. We on rampage smoke on the No, you're missing it.

1063
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: He on our record saying, you and your squad gonna

1064
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 3: face the real guard the undertake.

1065
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: This is us and he coming at your neck on

1066
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: your record on the record, same record.

1067
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: But but then he said on the break of dawn,

1068
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: give me that microphone, I'm gonna show you.

1069
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: The real meaning of the dangers. Yo. No, L was

1070
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: a problem.

1071
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: He didn't and I don't know that was just as instinct.

1072
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 3: But that's just how he was battled.

1073
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: Number one period. Anybody get that. Anybody can get it. Friend, naughty,

1074
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: that's right, you want to feature. I'm at your neck, man,

1075
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: But like I said, what what would you say? Your

1076
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: best your best business decision has been out your career.

1077
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Again.

1078
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: It's a it's a Ketschwayne too because the breakup. You know,

1079
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: I think that if that didn't happen, I would have

1080
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: been I would have been inside of a system where

1081
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: I just made beats for my crew. The breakup was

1082
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: what was a gift and the curse too, because once

1083
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 3: I broke up, I was able to become what I become.

1084
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: Don't forget, man, I produced almost all the Wrap and

1085
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: half R and B. People don't look at my R

1086
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: and B and look at the d Angelo chicul the

1087
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: barge in Vogue, Mary Joy, Angie Stone. You know this

1088
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: is a piece. You know, Black Street keep sweat. I

1089
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 3: can keep going on R and B Groundstone, so you can.

1090
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: Everybody that you're looking at before before they see me

1091
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: as hip hop.

1092
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: But I did this too.

1093
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: That's high clip crazy, Like, Yeah, your production bag is insane.

1094
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: That's what I told you.

1095
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: Like You're legend in both atmospheres of the game, rapping

1096
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: and production, and it's insane.

1097
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: Not everybody can do that.

1098
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm a force right now, niggas, You're not me.

1099
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: I tried Blaze brought all equipment for me, the beat

1100
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: Machine Guru and just Blaze was in my house setting

1101
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: up everything because I'm like, yo, I'm gonna learn how

1102
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: to make Maybe I got this ship, bro, I couldn't

1103
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: get past the tick on the NPC the ship that

1104
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: you make the drum padd too. I was all, yeah again,

1105
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: go back to that, like this is my crew. To

1106
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: DJ Twins and Rock Waller.

1107
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 3: Gave biggest right and Twins too, they learned because they watched.

1108
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 3: So my right is watching Rock Wilder and watching and

1109
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 3: Twins a long time.

1110
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Eric. If it wasn't for you a nigga, he wouldn't

1111
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: know none of this ship. That's crazy saying no, I couldn't.

1112
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: I tried.

1113
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: I knew production and producing that's a whole You tried it.

1114
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: I tried, Yeah, I said, you said you you hit

1115
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: one button and couldn't do it.

1116
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Y'all.

1117
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: Nigga's producers to me are insane because you can just listen.

1118
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: It's quiet, and y'all could be like, yo, you hear that?

1119
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: No here what and then nigga go to the beat

1120
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: Machine that like, Yo, what the fuck did you just hear?

1121
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's not.

1122
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 3: For me just when I was down at one of

1123
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 3: like again sometimes you get the low. It was Kanye

1124
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: West for me. Yeah, no he was when when I

1125
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: that the album I'm Like Man. And then the Long

1126
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: Hill two also woke me up.

1127
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: Because of her drums though too Kan because him and

1128
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: just blazed the me where the two illess samplers like

1129
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: they won't send me more record and flipping it where

1130
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even know when Blaze because I need to

1131
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: get some of that money back. Okay, So.

1132
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: That React beat was out, feather Meth had it, Jamai

1133
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: pre had it whatever, and Dame got mad afterwards. Make

1134
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: sure you before you give stuff out. Boom boom, Dame

1135
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: niggas had to be so just didn't do nothing wrong again,

1136
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: somebody from the label went right to Agie Martinez.

1137
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: Bus Is Cole has got already at it. So now

1138
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: you get to stick me up now?

1139
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: Oh shit, yo, just Blaze telling the story to this day.

1140
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: His biggest check they got me for sixty racks six

1141
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: sixty two.

1142
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: Thousand and two.

1143
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: He said that's the most money he ever got for

1144
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 3: a record, sixty thousand. Because Dane was like, fuck all

1145
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 3: that the records out sixty Yo, I deserved some money.

1146
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 3: That money back, just just about ten thousand of it.

1147
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: Yo, that's it, sane. I forgot just did that record

1148
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: for you? I come on, just blaze, coming on. Yeah,

1149
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Whatever she said, I'm that yo.

1150
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all because the whole thing, the fact that again

1151
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: it was the perfect thing to say though, man, because

1152
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: nobody know what he says. Say want somebody said, yo,

1153
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: Eric's good. She's talking about suicide. I'm like, you know

1154
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: the weathers. I'm like, come on now, enough with that.

1155
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 3: Now she's talking about who said all this stuff?

1156
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ship bullshit? But bro, you done been through

1157
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: the label drama of course, group drama, industry ship health scarce.

1158
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a heart attack of twenty eleven. You

1159
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm glad to see you still

1160
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: with us. You know what I mean?

1161
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: What what what's your strength behind everything that keep you going?

1162
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: You know for those who who might need that motivation.

1163
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, my best friend passed away was my mother

1164
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: two and a half years ago.

1165
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: And I gotta say this one thing too.

1166
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: I know I say a lot too too, but Kanye

1167
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: West helped me out a lot, no way, because when

1168
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: I when I was flying down to do Kanye West.

1169
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: My mother had told my sister make sure Erika on

1170
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: that plane. So I landed in La May thirtieth and

1171
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 3: the phone ring my boy, but nod passed me.

1172
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: The phone was my sister and said mom passed away. Right.

1173
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: My mother knew that she didn't want me to be there.

1174
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: So when I got there, Kanye West said, yo, e,

1175
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 3: my mom's died.

1176
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: I went to work, come to the lab them all.

1177
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: So I stayed with Kane, Kanrie, and and and Kanye

1178
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: in the lab. About five months we was in the

1179
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: camp and his twenty five thousand square feet the thing

1180
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: he had. Then we went to the addition he had

1181
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: to owe the whole a floor. What me and Ye

1182
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: was doing was not what vultures was. Right, So when

1183
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: I went home to bury my mother, I flew to

1184
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: Italy right. So when I got to Italy, I see

1185
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: my songs on the board, but then Todd Dollards sound

1186
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: was there, so that.

1187
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: Whole thing switched switched.

1188
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: So so because I was like, yo, yay, where's the

1189
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: rhymes at? Like why ain't no rhymes on you? So

1190
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: he calls the meet and like, yo, bring Eric in. Yo,

1191
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: Eric says there is no rhyme.

1192
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: We got start.

1193
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: I put some rhymes on here, so I had the ear,

1194
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: but it just got lost.

1195
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: So I left.

1196
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: Italy, you know, and I'm like, damn, you know, I

1197
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: want to spend the year, you know, just trying to

1198
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: put stuff together.

1199
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: And it changed.

1200
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: You know, that's crazy, kan he he goes on different

1201
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: this sound that sound quick. But I'm never going to

1202
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: be able to know when people say about what how

1203
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: he is. I know what he did for me at

1204
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: a time, at the time when when my mother passed away.

1205
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: So when I'm going back to your question, how do

1206
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: I where my experiences came from?

1207
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: It came from her.

1208
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: So everything that I do, how I speak, how I acting,

1209
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: how I was raised, was from her. So I know

1210
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: that when I I die, only I go.

1211
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Like Denzel had made a quote like you've never seen

1212
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: a U hole behind the hers, which is true, continue

1213
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: on with you. So why I'm here, I just don't

1214
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: want to be labeled as no asshole when niggas talking

1215
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: about me or when I go. So I've always been

1216
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: a humble person. So when because you're gonna forget Lord

1217
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: is loyalty respect you can't buy. So when people say

1218
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: what's one you're going to choose loyal to respect is

1219
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: the respect part because loyalty can easily be easy be

1220
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: it can be tampered with and can be fake, can

1221
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: can be fake. But respect you got to own that

1222
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: you can't. So again, I just had to respect for

1223
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: my whole time being in the game. And my boys

1224
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: say too, Eric, when your name is mentioned, shit open

1225
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: up and niggas listen, they're like, oh, you know, you

1226
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: know whatever, And that part right there makes it feel like,

1227
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: you know what I did my job?

1228
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: That's right, you know. Now, that's what's up.

1229
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: What advice would you give the young artists today navigating

1230
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: the industry?

1231
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: I would tell them too that it's a business too,

1232
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: and the fact that the independency you come from it

1233
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: don't forget. That's why when you watch the backstage and

1234
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: you see Dame Barkin, is you right?

1235
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: You didn't do nothing for me? I did this work,

1236
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: That's right, you know what I'm saying.

1237
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: So the more so the advice I give, the more

1238
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: work you put in.

1239
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: For yourself, the better it will be from you. Don't forget.

1240
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: We was all independent Fresh records, you know, Zakiah fucking Boogie,

1241
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: you know, you know, Boogie Down Records, all this stuff

1242
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: that all these independence came from. They all came from independence,

1243
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: all of this, you know, profile Rundom Sees, all before

1244
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: they got signed to majors. So the independent game was

1245
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: already always there. So be independent. Try to own as

1246
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: much as you possibly can so you can navigate with

1247
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: it and be able to move with it or have

1248
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: ownership and then keep it.

1249
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: One hundred sent you. If you go to McDonald's every

1250
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: day at three o'clock, then write about it, cause that's

1251
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: your story.

1252
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: Don't tell somebody else's story because that kid will find

1253
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: out that that's not your story.

1254
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: You're lying.

1255
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: That's right, that's for yo. That's some of the advice

1256
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: Jay used to tell me as a kid man. When

1257
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: the lines run out, the rhymes run out. So yeah,

1258
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: but I heard I heard you. I heard you on

1259
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: the covered thing. Though Beaker was was mad? Was mad

1260
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: real that you said yo? He's like yo, I was wild.

1261
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad that he didn't.

1262
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: He didn't.

1263
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: He didn't bring me. He'd be because I was out

1264
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: of control. So he's talking about me how to control.

1265
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: He was out of control too. Yeah, I was way

1266
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: out of control. I knew I was, but I knew

1267
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: how to stay off the off the scene with the

1268
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: mind got controlled in the fact, but the fact that

1269
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: you were a greater picture, A lot of niggas would not.

1270
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: I still want to roll like nigga take take me.

1271
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: You knew, like listen, I'm I can be a liability.

1272
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm not in the right thing like man, like you know,

1273
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: my mentality and what I'm thinking about conjeopardize everything, like

1274
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: because remember Jay got to a point where he became

1275
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: larger than life like and it's like, I've still always

1276
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: got to worry about that. What if somebody tried to

1277
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: homie even though he got security for that, But I'm

1278
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: not relying on them people, you know what I'm saying.

1279
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: So it's like if some go down, I'm the guy.

1280
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm ready. We always ready everybody. So it's like, you

1281
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: don't need me to be around looking at something and

1282
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: thinking it's something that is not and then I go

1283
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: off the I go left and do something I'm not

1284
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: supposed to do and now would jeopardize everything we work for, everything,

1285
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: everybody trying to get to And because I'm still on

1286
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: this hood mentality, you know what I was still.

1287
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: I heard you, and I'm like, yot.

1288
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: A lot of niggas won't do that because niggas want

1289
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 3: to be understand.

1290
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: I knew that a train was too squizzing for me.

1291
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: I had to go back to the g right exactly,

1292
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: no doubt, like word tell me about it's been more

1293
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: than a decade. I want to know what made you.

1294
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: I know what made you getting. I'm an artist with

1295
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: the love. But tell me about this new album. Oh yeah,

1296
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: a couple of your new singers too. I don't know

1297
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: why why you stop going?

1298
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: Yo?

1299
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,959
Speaker 3: You believe you y't talk about you off came about

1300
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: this too, because if you because I seen you thirty

1301
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: right now off the clip, like right now after becose,

1302
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: I seen you thirty records right now working.

1303
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, cool, that's great. I don't want you.

1304
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 3: Here's why I did dynamic duos In twenty nineteen. I

1305
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: was like, yo, why are my colleagues working? I didn't

1306
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 3: I didn't understand who told you to stop making records?

1307
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: So COVID came.

1308
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: So two years went by, but Kevin Lowes I was

1309
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: going to go sign with Alan Grumblack, and then Kevin

1310
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: Lowes called Alan Sayo Alan, that's too big for you.

1311
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: Let me get that ever Sermon album.

1312
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: So I signed with three hundred, so I was making

1313
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: the record The Cohen sells three hundred, four hundred and

1314
01:04:53,680 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: fifty million to Julie and Mike guys Atlantic. So time

1315
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: go by. So what you see Na's doing, I was

1316
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: doing that four years ago. So now it just happened

1317
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 3: to be coming out. So I was like, there's twenty

1318
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 3: three bleak about twenty three or twenty four rap groups,

1319
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: duos and hip hop if.

1320
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: You look it up.

1321
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: So I was already gonna be doing how many that

1322
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: I can do, So I'm gonna do a Volume one

1323
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: and a Volume two. So now was I got volume

1324
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: Volume one coming right again. It took a while two

1325
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: for the clearances because I was clear I had to

1326
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 3: clear Biggie Tupac, M Prodigy, Nate Dogg, and Sean Price right,

1327
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: so all that took time too. So now I gotta say, Okay,

1328
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: some stuff didn't come back, some stuff didn't, but the

1329
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: stuff that's coming out in December fifth on the Dynamic Duels,

1330
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: Volume one's Cypress Hills and Op E p M d

1331
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg and Nate Little Wayne Conway, the Machine Game,

1332
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: Read and meth Dog Pound Helter Skelter, Right, So.

1333
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: That's right man, shut out Rock and Rock Price rest Rock.

1334
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: And I said, mom, deep, so it's twelve records coming,

1335
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: you know, so then and then volume two you know

1336
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: it'll be where it is. I already know because I'm

1337
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 3: already got whatever's coming out. But right now December fifth

1338
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 3: for those that was waiting because people be like, yo,

1339
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: Eric is lying, you do he's doing the Detox ship coming,

1340
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: but they don't know the parts of again to the

1341
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: label going Clarence.

1342
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: Is the whole nine so all that should take time.

1343
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: So but but but again, I was doing it because

1344
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: my colleagues wasn't making records at the time they make

1345
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: a records now by the time, nobody was moving.

1346
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: So I was like, if you if, if you need,

1347
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: if you.

1348
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: Can't go in in because you don't want to know

1349
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: how to make a then you can't.

1350
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: And I'm going to be the services for you. I'm

1351
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: gonna take care all of it for you. And they

1352
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: was down with it.

1353
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: That's right now, that's dope, man.

1354
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: I respect like guys like you, like you got Salt

1355
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: and Pepper public.

1356
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: I forgot about Pepper.

1357
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know you're all linkeding with the new

1358
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: generation and bridging that gap.

1359
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: Like what that?

1360
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: What's that's like working with the Conway machines and like

1361
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1362
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: But but'get blead this. I work with everybody.

1363
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: And one thing about me, like said the respect part,

1364
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: if I DM somebody, it's very rare.

1365
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to know. That's right, you know, because

1366
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: niggas on the respect thing.

1367
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 3: So what you're hearing right now is just again was

1368
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: my error that I already had done. That's why you

1369
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 3: hear the Conway New one, because that's where I was going.

1370
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 3: I was going with to mix the new with it

1371
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: with the old exactly, so you were so you were

1372
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: hear more of that connection on Volume two, Yes, where

1373
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: I would have like a ge Herbal with with somebody

1374
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 3: who who rhyming or cor Day or somebody in that

1375
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 3: type of situation rhyming with new people. And then if

1376
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 3: I do do a Volume three, it'll be me pushing

1377
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:17,480
Speaker 3: the music forward with new people, with two new rappers,

1378
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: with an album of this new rappers that you never

1379
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: heard before, or the newest of the new you know,

1380
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 3: because once you put the jump out the window.

1381
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: Anybody like yo, yo yo. When when they heard these names, yo.

1382
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 2: I did a locks record, so I played it yesterday

1383
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: on the on their show, Jada was like, holy shit.

1384
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, so, do you want me to keep it

1385
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 3: or you want to change it? Because he forgot what

1386
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: this sounds. He's like, no, you keep that one. We

1387
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 3: do another, but keep that one though too. So you

1388
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 3: know again, these people know what I'm capable of. I'm

1389
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 3: not a person too bleak. Well, you gotta tell me

1390
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 3: it's over. I'm too I'm gonnacity to take it like

1391
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: your boy.

1392
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: I know when it's over.

1393
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: Yes, you know how to tell me I'm whack like

1394
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't like I mean tripping. My thing is, you

1395
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 2: can never be whack because you're not a whack person.

1396
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 2: You have to be to be whack. You have to

1397
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: be a whack person. Right, Just make a whack rhyme,

1398
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 2: your life, dress club, your lifestyle, everything.

1399
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: Got You're right, You're right, and I tell people too.

1400
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to be the one that's hanging

1401
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: on trying to be.

1402
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: For you. I ain't gonna mention no name.

1403
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: But somebody had said something over fifteen years ago and

1404
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 3: Jay was still getting busy, you know, part of Who

1405
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 3: the Rappers. He said, yeah, man, he should move over

1406
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 3: and ship and let other niggas eat, we know, something like.

1407
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: When I heard that, I was like, huh no, you

1408
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: step your game up, get in the ring. You get

1409
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: in the ring.

1410
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 3: You want the nigga to stop because he's still eating.

1411
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: When I heard that, I lost it. But I of

1412
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 3: course I can't go back. I'm not going to go

1413
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 3: and dress somebody. But when I heard that, I was like, plus,

1414
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: your excuse me, bless you. But but you know what

1415
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm talking about?

1416
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: That Yeah, yeah, you know, we ain't got to say

1417
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: no dames. Man, they know the shoe fits.

1418
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, Yo, What do you want people to

1419
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: say about you when it's all over? Like what you

1420
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: wanted them to say? Eric Sherman, who he was.

1421
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: I was a good dude because I did last shit

1422
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: for free and I gave I gave half of my

1423
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 2: money away, but I did shit on the strength. To

1424
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: mad people who I don't even know say that he

1425
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: was just a good dude, Like my mother was a giver.

1426
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 2: At my mother's funeral, mostly everybody who came out was like, oh, Belinda,

1427
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: was a giver. Oh, Belinda was a giver. So I

1428
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: learned that my mother was before I got on.

1429
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 3: My mother used to she didn't really like Sometimes if

1430
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: she was in her whole check, she would borrow twenty

1431
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 3: dollars to get to the next person that needed it.

1432
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: I've never seen that before. You know what I'm saying,

1433
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: so again.

1434
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 3: At one time, that's want people to know that part

1435
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 3: of me like no matter what, And my sister tells people, now,

1436
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: my brother is so simple.

1437
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can argue with him or

1438
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: be in conference with him because he don't want much.

1439
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: Eric is already an introvert, so after that he wanted

1440
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: to either binge, watch TV or is not that in

1441
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: this or if you got jobs to do.

1442
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm never late to never never want an interview. I

1443
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: never went to late to nothing.

1444
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 3: I've never been late to a performance for a promoter,

1445
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: I respect their time. You got to respect somebody's time.

1446
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:29,919
Speaker 3: So it's very important.

1447
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 2: My man and Jo always told me, man, if you

1448
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: ain't ten minutes earlier, you ten minutes late exactly.

1449
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: And nobody want to work with an artist that they

1450
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: got to wait for.

1451
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: No, but if anybody, I don't care who to respect

1452
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: somebody's time.

1453
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: That's right all the time.

1454
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's a story that haven't been

1455
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: told that you feel like needs to be still told about?

1456
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: Eric Chrirman sermon, Yeah, yeah.

1457
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 3: You know, you know, at once at one time though

1458
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: complete it's so your bleiker. I ain't gonna lie, man,

1459
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: it feels it feels normal, you know, with people that

1460
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: you don't hang out with, but it's still your bo

1461
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: That's how this feels though too. Again, when I see

1462
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: some of my people's who I haven't seen in a while,

1463
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: and no matter what if we don't hang out, it's

1464
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 3: still like your butter's still loved.

1465
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: But there's real people. But but you actually say say

1466
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: it again?

1467
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: I say, do you feel like it's a story that

1468
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: I had that hasn't been told that at one at

1469
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: one time I used to be the underrated story.

1470
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 3: I used to always be like, damn, why niggas don't

1471
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: you know? Not my colleagues. But when you talk about

1472
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: other ship, listen, I'm in fifty percent of those lists.

1473
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: But are y'all looking at the work work? That's right,

1474
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 3: it's only a few of me, you know. So you

1475
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 3: so if you're gonna talk about somebody because again that's

1476
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: why I bring up Larry Smith. Niggas leave them out,

1477
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 3: but sucking sees Slick Ricks Houdini. You know when you

1478
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 3: hear these big records, it's this man. Then you got

1479
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: to look at Molly Maul without him sampling like then

1480
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 3: and go forward on that level.

1481
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't be just Blazes, Kanye.

1482
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: Well, none of us because he was like, yo, I'm

1483
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: a sample, you know.

1484
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: So again, at the end of the day, I look

1485
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 3: at myself, JERMAINEU Prito, a few others, don't forget. Yeah,

1486
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: but Justin was able to come in the era where okay,

1487
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 3: the producers.

1488
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: Name was getting recog Now you've got.

1489
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: The metro booms and you yeah, you know seducers getting booked.

1490
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: For sure, exactly.

1491
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 3: So again I just I used to look at that,

1492
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 3: but but I'm like this too. The legendary part of

1493
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: it is they will know because when it's a need

1494
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 3: to know, they will know that's right.

1495
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, legends, man, Like I said, E P O.

1496
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: D Man, Hit Squad, depth squad, everything, y'all done. Man,

1497
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: it's been I've been watching from a far bro and

1498
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: I've been a fan.

1499
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: You ship when I first met you.

1500
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: You treated me like you knew me for a hundred

1501
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: years and we've been brothers and been in love ever since.

1502
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 3: In my car I played it, I put a blueprint

1503
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 3: from the top to the bottom. And so so when

1504
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: you come up with the rulers back and just keep

1505
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 3: because don't forget it, there's no skip, that's right, you know.

1506
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: So my momentum comes from this. So who in the

1507
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: world can lie to somebody's face and say you ain't

1508
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: a fan of j You're a liar.

1509
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: That's like you.

1510
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm about to say. Man, Oh no, I

1511
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 2: watched j be like you're your e.

1512
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: So you made all that ship? I member?

1513
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 3: He was say one time after Jones beat Ship and

1514
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: they're gonna watch the sow maybe ten fifty years ago,

1515
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 3: and they came out the car, so either me let

1516
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 3: me ask me what he said, Yo.

1517
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: You made all that ship.

1518
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: So I guess they was playing it in the car

1519
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: the day before, playing all E P M D. Because

1520
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: because again I'm like, I heard Jay say relax mind

1521
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 3: on twice on the fucking Dynasty album. I'm like, yo,

1522
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 3: you know.

1523
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: Like I was a big influence to a lot of us,

1524
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: bro and like, don't ever think.

1525
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: You you're not amongst those, the JD's and the like. Bro.

1526
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: When niggas say your name, they know the classics. You pure, yo,

1527
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: the classics.

1528
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: You rather time.

1529
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: Gotta stop because it's my partner boogie boogie, And he said, Eric,

1530
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 3: everybody who when they're in front of you say the

1531
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: same thing, why can't you see it? My sister would

1532
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 3: be like, why can't you see it? My mother used

1533
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: to be like, I be like, yo, ma, I saw

1534
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: stances last night. She was like, and they saw you,

1535
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: they saw you.

1536
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: That's right, because you know why you can't see it

1537
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: because you living in there. If you took a chance

1538
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: and just step back and just look outside of your

1539
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: life and inside.

1540
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: You'll see it for all y'all say it.

1541
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: See.

1542
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 3: My sister used to get mad too, and I'll be like, yo, Kim,

1543
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 3: I can't help it. I don't know no other way

1544
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 3: because even though mom says it, my humble note comes

1545
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 3: from this. And what's the Simmons said, Eric, you humble

1546
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 3: to a fault because you gotta at a certain way

1547
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: sometimes and walk in the room sometimes like you're you.

1548
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: Like as we say in My Man, you gotta drag

1549
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: your nuts sometime. Let these niggas hold on me too.

1550
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 4: Right.

1551
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes when I'm going I take my nuts up right

1552
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 3: now and have them bleeding in the middle of sweet niggas.

1553
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 3: I would do it, not in front of me. I

1554
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 3: would talks. So what's next for you, man? Okay, I'm gonna.

1555
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: Pick up the the the eighty eight fresh I got

1556
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: coming on Stars.

1557
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 1: It's a four documentary series.

1558
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: I got a thing called Beat some Bars out there

1559
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: where I go to ten cities.

1560
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: You go on the web, you see it.

1561
01:16:59,280 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: Now.

1562
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 3: I go to ten City Eas and Bars, Sway the

1563
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 3: executive with my boy Nails.

1564
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: We go and.

1565
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: I go, and I go this difference season, and I've

1566
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 3: been out fifty rappers and twenty five producers and then

1567
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: we picked one out of each one and then we

1568
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 3: go to ten cities and they all would battle at

1569
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 3: the end of New York and ten producers and the

1570
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 3: in the ten rods and then.

1571
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: They get to split two hundred and fifty grand. So,

1572
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: so that show is coming out soon too on Netflix.

1573
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, Beat and Bars. So but you go on

1574
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: there too, you will see the cities that we went to.

1575
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: So far, me Sway and and and Nails shout out

1576
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: Sway and nails Man, nails Man, my God, Sway, my guy.

1577
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: Nails on the beat too.

1578
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, And then I got death Rugs out there,

1579
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: which is my sister Kay sermon to who's I'm taking

1580
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 3: part of my percentage back.

1581
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 2: But but, but, but but we do rugs for everybody.

1582
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: Everybody has our rugs.

1583
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 3: In their house and got tapping in So go on

1584
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: death Rugs dot com or go to death Rugs on

1585
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: on Instagram, whatever, and you will see I don't care

1586
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 3: who you name, sports, fucking rappers, fucking whatever we did.

1587
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 3: Everyone has has my material. And then my boy Unique

1588
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 3: Order Sports. You know, Will Will been doing all your

1589
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 3: carts forever, so he's still doing it. Matter of fact,

1590
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: he I think he just did. Fact Joe's Rose Royce

1591
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 3: just recently inside the thing, and he had Camelo Anthony's

1592
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: cyber truck in there a couple of times.

1593
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,839
Speaker 1: So it's always Wills, but me and him as partners.

1594
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 3: Now we got some shit colls to what you say

1595
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 3: it to on a small scale, right, So it's what

1596
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 3: you're saying podcast. We're getting that together, but it's not

1597
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 3: going to be in the like a scale like that.

1598
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 3: It's just something that we're doing.

1599
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: As him.

1600
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: Will was the first one to do my Car next

1601
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 3: and eighty eight he put my ragtop on and did

1602
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: my car, one of the first cars he ever did.

1603
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 3: So so we go back thirty seven years, so so on,

1604
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 3: on on so on that part. Those what we have

1605
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 3: now with I got going on now and along with

1606
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: the volume two, my boy Boogie has Boogie Knights coming now,

1607
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 3: Eric Simonsons. Boogie Knights have the underground people like nature,

1608
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: you know, Ali Vegas, the.

1609
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: Hoodies, Vegas, I heard that name.

1610
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:29,560
Speaker 2: That Nigga's always been dangerous, the hoodies. Who else Fregol Bass,

1611
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 2: Ufo Fieve So.

1612
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah me.

1613
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: So all the underground parts that I didn't do is

1614
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 3: on that project too.

1615
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: Did the new Eric.

1616
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: Sermon produced Memphis Bleak produced by Eric Sermon, all of

1617
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: it because listen no, no, listen no, because the days

1618
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 2: of the one producer is gone. That's why Alchemists did

1619
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 2: so much work for the past year. Freddie Gibbs, fucking

1620
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: Larry June, you know. And it didn't do most of

1621
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: the more deep but again still mob deep and.

1622
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: The project with you. I'm working on the project right

1623
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: now with cooland dre. I need to. So you're doing

1624
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: the covering. It doesn't matter the more material you have.

1625
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: Don't forget.

1626
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 3: You're the one that's saving your publishing, that's right. So

1627
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: so you build your catalog up, right. So now you

1628
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: got these four or five albums here, if you want

1629
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 3: to do this, See the people don't understand. Say, if

1630
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 3: you got this new publishing and you got this here too,

1631
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 3: you might not want to sell your shit, but THEWS.

1632
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 3: But the new stuff I can make a million dollars

1633
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: deal with, and then I can I can keep going.

1634
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: That's right, Keep going. That's a game for young people.

1635
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 2: Watch, that's right, keep going, reinvest man, Yo, I appreciate

1636
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: you stopping by.

1637
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: My brothers. Good seeing you, good health, good spirits.

1638
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 3: Hey listen, man, this is it's a lot and sexy

1639
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 3: right here. But listen, hey, jeez, you better stop. No,

1640
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: but listen, man, this is what I tell people all

1641
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 3: the time. Like my birthday is November twenty.

1642
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: Fifth, right, oh right there, man, shipday.

1643
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 3: So I'll be in a Lanta with my with my

1644
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: dad who just turned eighty, and my sisters. My mom

1645
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 3: lived there before she passed away, and so my sisters

1646
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 3: are there.

1647
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: My two sisters and then my nieces and nephews. So

1648
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: I'll be sending my birthday there and my son is.

1649
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 3: My twenty year old Earls company, and I be going

1650
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 3: from things given to Miami where I live at to too.

1651
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: But I got a basil I'll be. I've never been

1652
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: there before. I'll be there.

1653
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: So so I'm doing you could take this out do

1654
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 3: I'm doing Drink Champs Live on the third.

1655
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 2: That's my partners Okay, okay, I'm doing that on the third,

1656
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,919
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna go around too because I'm recently.

1657
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: You see, I don't want to tell these women that

1658
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: this is valuable because you're gonna start a frenzy.

1659
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 3: Listen if you see me right like, oh you got

1660
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 3: that's the green Eye bandit to just back it.

1661
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: Up and slow it down something, you know what I'm saying.

1662
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 3: Because I'm not gonna be and none of my cars

1663
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in the uber because they like that too.

1664
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, because I want to pull nothing out.

1665
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: But listen, they like.

1666
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 4: Yo the floors and that niggas be doing, like Yo,

1667
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 4: you don't need that no more like you brother, you

1668
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 4: got you're broke because you think that car is gonna

1669
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 4: get you that and then Nigga, right now, that's home.

1670
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: Ride a skateboard, get that straight? You out here broke

1671
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 2: yep frying, you don't need none of that. I remember, yo,

1672
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: you saying that before we go. I remember I wanted

1673
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: to Bentley. I'm telling whole my credit wasn't right, y'all?

1674
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: Need you the coach sign for the bit for me?

1675
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: He's like, what you need a Bnley for? You got

1676
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: the six hundred. So I'm like, yo, bro, you know

1677
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 2: what type of joints I could get with the big

1678
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: he said? You know that all the girls take their

1679
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: clothes off the same way, whether you walk, drive, or

1680
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 2: get off the bus.

1681
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: He said, so if they get naked different, then I

1682
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: get you the benchget Tarius. Same mind.

1683
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: How rich you are, there's no rich restaurant for you,

1684
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: that's right. I'm still We're still going to rob or

1685
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: say let's or child.

1686
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: That's right.

1687
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: A rich bathroom for you. You know which store for you?

1688
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: They take you in the back door. I'm walking in there.

1689
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm still eating with You're still going in the same

1690
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 2: soup to a market with you. You're still going in

1691
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: the same clothes. One hundred percent there's no there's no

1692
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: for the people. It's just the same guy.

1693
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: You might have money, but I still can shop.

1694
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: At the same same store. That's right, man, you already

1695
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: know what it is. Man, my brother to thank you,

1696
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: let me do a drop, hookie.

1697
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: This is rock solid.

1698
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: You know what it is, brought to you by du

1699
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: say Eric Shermon, not Sherman.

1700
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: You know what it is.

1701
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: Man.

1702
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 3: I'm going to keep put Memphis on blasts right now

1703
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 3: because this is crazy.

1704
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: He's not gonna speak about this. What but Puffy became

1705
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: a billionaire.

1706
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:01,480
Speaker 1: Alcohol mm hmm e forty Rick Ross.

1707
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: Anybody that got this, So I don't know how much

1708
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:11,520
Speaker 3: money you're making. But this nigga is lying, yo, because.

1709
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: Because I'm shopping in the same super boxus.

1710
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 3: Because because Aces Spade, anybody team who has alcohol has paper.

1711
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 3: So Bleak is able behind able to hide behind the

1712
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 3: marriage because now I'm home with the white beet so

1713
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm not in the street. But that money because Snoop

1714
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: Dogg is like that too, Nigga, Snoop, we know you

1715
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 3: paid Nigga, Like, yo, stop it, Bleak. I'm just keeping

1716
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 3: the one hundred whoever is at the job. And that's

1717
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 3: who's ever is an employee and y'all didn't getting no

1718
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: Christmas bonus. Somebody speak up.

1719
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,520
Speaker 2: You know what it is he's do save my feet?

1720
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can do it with which one? You

1721
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: know what a right?

1722
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 3: He dub my name myself twice. Man, I'm the George

1723
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 3: Girvin the rap. Call me the Iceman. It's Eric Sermon,

1724
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 3: the bandit half of e pm D thirty Death Squad.

1725
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 3: I'm here, right here with Memphis Bleach on rock solid.

1726
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: Rock solid, I never knew again. Let me do it again.

1727
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's good. Okay, you'll cut off. I'm

1728
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: doing all my time. I'm right here.

1729
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 3: He dub my name myself twice. Man, I'm the George Girvin,

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01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,160
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