1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Oh get even need everyone, and welcome to a new 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: edition of Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: to you the dealers. I'm JB. Long with my friends 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: MJD and DeMarco Farr. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: He's right there. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good Lambeau again. Huh are we ready? 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Listen? Man? 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I the last time we went 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: to Lambea, I said, have nightmares like I wake up shaking. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 4: You guys are in the booth and the booths was 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 4: the window the window open? 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Man? 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: Come on, are you talking about the wind whipping off 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: the top of that stadium into your face? 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't, I can't. I never. I don't think I 16 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: was that bundled up in my life. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: Oh my ever, it's gonna be different this year though. 18 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Temperatures in the fifties are gonna be kicking off in 19 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: daylight ball me first week in November. Much different than 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: December January. Maybe the RAN's fortunes will be too. Haven't 21 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: won Aaron Rodgers? Thank goodness? 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the big that's a big difference making quarterbacks. Second, 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, yeah. 24 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: That makes it a little bit warmer. Huh. 25 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: It makes it easier to go to Green Bay. You 26 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that guy anymore. 27 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's a ground swell out there in our 28 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: audience to make this show longer, like the double the 29 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: run time of this show. So I don't know if 30 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: you guys have anything planned even. 31 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: Let's go yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll think it out. 32 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: A lot to get to, but we all know where 33 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: we're starting, right. Matthew Stafford's thumb better than expected. That's 34 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: good news. Right, He's gonna play again this season, perhaps 35 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: as soon as this Sunday. That wasn't guaranteed when we 36 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: left Dallas. 37 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: That's good, right, he's going to play again. 38 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: I wouldn't I wouldn't mind necessarily if he set this 39 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 4: one out. If you want Matthew Stafford, if I want 40 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford on the field, I want him to be 41 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, not compromised, not worrying about his safety. 42 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: I'd rather go with a healthy backup versus a compromise start. 43 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: DeMarco has been on this kick. He's been trying to 44 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: convince me of this all day. 45 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree, respectfully. 46 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: We're here to win games and you're in the running 47 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: for the playoffs, and we're in this race now, right 48 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: like if we would have beat Cincinnati, if you to 49 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: beat Pittsburgh and you were five and four, but yeah, 50 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: like you could say, okay, this game. But right now 51 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: at over three and five, we got to guess are 52 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: getting some wins. 53 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: You gotta our Sacerds win. So how I'm gonna protect him. 54 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: We're gonna run the football knowing that their offense on 55 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: the other side is struggling mightily. So we don't have 56 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: to You don't have to go in this game, say 57 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: we got to score thirty five points or forty points 58 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: to win or whatever we thought going into Dallas. We 59 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: could just go in and run the football, play action pass, 60 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: get the ball out quick, some screen game and allow 61 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: our defense to win this game for us and come 62 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: up with the victory. 63 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: But you have to win this one. 64 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: This was like I hate doing must wins, but right 65 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: now you're in a must win situation. This team is down, 66 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: They turn the ball over at high rates, their quarterback 67 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 3: is struggling, their defense is playing well. 68 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: But it's only if you hold the ball. If you 69 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: hold the ball and do seven step drops. Rashaun Garier 70 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: get to you. 71 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, but if you're getting the ball out quick, 72 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: if you're running the football, they're definitely you could definitely 73 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: move the ball down the field. 74 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: And I think field goals in this game will win 75 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: you win you ballgame. 76 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: So you're in the camp of play left handed if necessary, Matthew, 77 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: But just having you in the huddle, having you be there, 78 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: gives you a different look when you peer across the 79 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Packers defense. 80 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: If we need a throw, we know you can give 81 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: us one throw. And that's what it comes down to 82 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: in this game. I think seeing rip and throw a 83 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: little bit against Dallas was kind of like. 84 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: Well, that's what gives me pause because he didn't finish 85 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: in Dallas. And that's the thing that scares me the 86 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: most because why didn't he finish in Dallas? But you 87 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: need nine if you have any hopes of making the playoff. 88 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: Why didn't he finish in Dallas? 89 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: Though? Because Michael Parsons was all over him in the game. 90 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: It was over. 91 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: It was you were down twenty six going into the 92 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: third right like it was kind of you scored and 93 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: then it was kind of they went down and scored 94 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: and it was like all right, like the risk versus 95 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: a reward? 96 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: What isn't there. 97 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Right, So you're saying there long Dallas is long drive. Yes, 98 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: any discussion, Yeah, that's what I believe. Well, I mean, 99 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: so you're saying they took his helmet from him this, Yeah, 100 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: it's like you're done. You may want to and and 101 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: you kind of felt that too, that you're going to 102 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: have to rip the football out of his hand. 103 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: You start thinking about protection. This game is out of hand. 104 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: It's an avalanche. And I said the same thing about 105 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: Aaron Noneal Okay, why are you going back in? You 106 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: know what I mean, But it is what it is. 107 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: You gotta do what you have to do. But that's 108 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: the thing you need, number nine for the stretch run. 109 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: So if you can get past a team without him, 110 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: to let him heal going into the bye week so 111 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: you can be healthy coming out of the bye I 112 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: think that might be a smart move. 113 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: But either way, as long as you get the W 114 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: this week for rippings different too. It's one thing to 115 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: be pressed into duty. I mean, of course, I think 116 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: it's behind the scenes a little bit like how little 117 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: work does QB two get in an NFL facility. 118 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: If you're doing let's say, if you're doing ten reps 119 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: a period, he may get two, three possibly res Yeah, 120 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: mostly intal. Yeah, you're gonna get thirty percent of the reps. 121 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: Twenty five to thirty percent of the reps and everything 122 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: else is mental right on the back, and you may 123 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 3: get some depending on how your team struggle. 124 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: You may do a lot of the scout team reps. Right. 125 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: So if you're you know, you're Dak Prescott this week, 126 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: you're throwing the ball, but you're not really doing our 127 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: game plan reps. You gotta do more mental in the 128 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: in the classroom, you know, all the stuff on your own, 129 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: all those different type of things. And I get it, 130 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: like you kind of get thrust it in as always 131 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: stuff like anyone that gets hurt throughout the course of 132 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: the game. It always puts you in a in a 133 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: buy because you don't have time to prepare for that, right, 134 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: you got to just make adjustments and try to go. 135 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 3: And I understand that, but I think again, in this situation, 136 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: when you're going into Green Bay, you haven't won in 137 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: Green Bay in a while, it's an opportunity to kind 138 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: of steal one. 139 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: You go, you go steal it if you can. 140 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from Brett Rip and because this 141 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: week with Matthew Stafford's sideline, we'll see if he goes Sunday, 142 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: Rams could take it all the way to kick off, 143 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: but he is in the huddle with Cooper Cup and 144 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: with Darryl Henderson for the moment. 145 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 5: It's not as difficult as you would think. I mean, 146 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 5: I think it's again you're I'm trying to do this 147 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: as much as I possibly can, you know, every single day, 148 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 5: and I'm Zach's back there with me and acting like 149 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 5: he's in the huddle and I'm calling to play to him, 150 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: you know, And that's just kind of how I've done 151 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: things since I've been in the NFL. So it's just 152 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 5: the emotions of it all, you know, getting into the huddle, 153 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 5: actually feeling a live pass rush. You know, it feels 154 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 5: good to get hit, to be honest with you, like 155 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 5: the first couple hits you take, I think kind of 156 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: gets you back into the rhythm of you know, kind 157 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 5: of feeling the pocket a little bit better and knowing, 158 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 5: you know, when guys are getting really close to you 159 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 5: versus when they're maybe not that close, and you might 160 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 5: get rid of it a little too quick. 161 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, let's tackle it head on because 162 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: I know the question is out there on our audience, 163 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: our fan base, and Maurice has been asking me this 164 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: question quite a bit, like why are the Rams in 165 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: the predicament that they're in where they're going with Dresser 166 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Win signed back this week to give them a third 167 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: option and Brett Rippin maybe making his first start as 168 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: a RAM this week. 169 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: I think the question for me was you try to 170 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: go get John Woolford. He didn't want to come back. 171 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: That was kind of the the news out there from 172 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: U It was Tampa Bay right, it was on their 173 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 3: practice squad. 174 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: But to me, it's I get it. 175 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: You want someone that can that understands your system, but 176 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: you need someone that let's just say, ripping. 177 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: Gets hurt and you have to I don't want to 178 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: say that, no number. 179 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: You got to think the worst case scenario in this situation, right, 180 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: dresser Win's going. 181 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: To come in, like, how are we gonna then be 182 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: able to maneuver? I need a guy. So it reminds me. 183 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: It brought me back to last year of John Woolford 184 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: and Perkins and the guys that know your system but 185 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: necessarily don't have the ability to play. But then you 186 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: get Baker Mayfield on a two on a Monday. 187 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: So your argument is, why not invest in a backup quarterback? 188 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think every To me, honestly, every NFL team 189 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: should invest in a backup quarterback that's serviceable. And I'm 190 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: not saying Dresher Winn is or he'll let me. 191 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Fresh you on that. Who's serviceable? Give me that short list. 192 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz that there's one right there that you can 193 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: get for. 194 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: He hasn't played in two years, but his arm is 195 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: serviceable where I know he could make the throws if 196 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: need be right. And I think that was the biggest 197 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: thing last year. And again, I don't know if Dresher 198 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: Winn can or can't. I don't know, but I know 199 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: he hasn't played. The team looked completely different last year 200 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: with Baker Mayfield at quarterback than it had for five 201 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: or six weeks. And that to me tells you that 202 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: you need a guy that at least has the arm 203 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: strength to be able to scare a team to say 204 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: I have to back up, because if you can't back up, 205 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: you can't play offense. 206 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: You no doubt. 207 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: And that Baker Mayfield win was against the Raiders, and 208 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: look how the Raiders are right now. So, I mean, 209 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: who knows. But look, if you're down to your third 210 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 4: string quarterback, I mean, it's it's wildcat. It's already wildcat anyway, 211 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: you know. 212 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 213 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: So once you get past your backup, it almost doesn't 214 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: matter who's the third guy. 215 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: I know because of how they played in the first 216 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: couple of months, and I've been as guilty of pushing 217 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: this narrative as anyone that our bar expectation level has risen, 218 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: no question, right since the summer. But let's keep in 219 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: mind there was no twenty twenty three world I think 220 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: where the Rams were going to invest in a backup 221 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: quarterback If nine, ten and ninety nine are playing, Is 222 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: there any team in this league they can't go beat 223 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: on a certain. 224 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: Day, healthy and ready and going yeah, no. 225 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: If one of those pieces falls, and especially if your 226 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: quarterback falls, are the Rams going to contend for much 227 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: of this season? 228 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: No. 229 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: So I think the plan to rewind time a little 230 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: bit that they mapped out is one. Investing in a 231 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: QB two is a bit anthetical to the plan for 232 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: this this season, which was to try and thread that 233 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: needle with while our guys are our guys. If everything's right, 234 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: we can go get something right. If not, we are 235 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: clawing back resources and pouring into twenty twenty four and beyond. 236 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: But here's the other thing too, because I hear what 237 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: you're saying about Wentz or like a Colt McCoy or 238 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: whatever better resume. Yes, but even mediocre backups in this 239 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: league are expensive. Like I went and looked. You know 240 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: how much Tyrod's making this year? 241 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: How much is he making? 242 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: Seven? 243 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: Seven millions? 244 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: Trubisky's making six, Donald's making five? Wow, James getting four 245 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: and a half lock four. 246 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: This is a half those guys were like on the 247 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: roster though, you're coming off the couchs buddy, Like. 248 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: So you're saying just tase to say the veterans. 249 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, come on and get you this vetman, get maybe 250 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: get your career. If you're if you're Carson Wentz, you're 251 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: hunting in North Dakota right now, Like, come on and 252 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: get this vetman, Let's get your career. Kind of going back, 253 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: look what we did for Baker, Hey, look what we 254 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: did for this guy. Like there's there's a bunch of 255 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: uh story and players at the RAMS have kind of 256 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: revitalized their career. Get this Vetman. We may need you 257 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: for a game or two. Get to keep us going 258 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: and then we can go. And I again, I understand 259 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: I'm being Devil's advocate. I understand the importance of knowing 260 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: the offense. Dresser Winn was here all all OTAs all 261 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,479 Speaker 3: summer awesome. 262 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: Because you're preaching, Hey, just understand the language. Get us 263 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: in the right play, let us lean on our running. 264 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: Exactly at least I can talk to you, right. 265 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, But then also I understand it when it gets tough, 266 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: I need someone to be able to throw that ball 267 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: forty five yards down the field. 268 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's see what it looks like from ripping 269 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: when he's got a week to prepare. If we go 270 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: down that path which DeMarco is advocating for, I've had 271 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: enough of our problems. Can we talk about some Packers problems, 272 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: specifically their quarterback situation? And not to pile on Jordan Love, 273 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: but you know he's last in the league right now 274 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: in completion percentage. He's been picked in five straight games 275 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: to your point about turning the ball over league high 276 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: eight interceptions since the start of Week three. His QBR 277 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: in that time second worst to only PJ. Walker. So 278 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: I think you told me via Texas Week, like if 279 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: there's a moment in time to be without your starting quarterback, 280 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: maybe this is the week to be going to Facebook. 281 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: Oh this is it? 282 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, they don't have a ton of 283 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: weapons in Green Bay. Can you name one pro bowler 284 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: on offense right now? As they look? No, they're all hurt, 285 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. So it's it's a pretty pedestrian offense. 286 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't even they don't utilize him the 287 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: way they should either. But well, the other guy, thigh 288 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: Master j Dylan, is an absolute hammer. I mean, so yeah, 289 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: you're gonna split carries with that guy. But you know, 290 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: I like Jordan Love. He's very athletic. 291 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: He's a guy that will give the Rams defense problems 292 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: because all mobile quarterbacks have and will because of how 293 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: you're playing out there. But he's a guy that you 294 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 4: should be able to control. He's a guy that might 295 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: throw it to you. And so this is your day 296 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: not for takeaways, not might. I think he will. 297 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 3: And the other thing is this, like we're talking, we 298 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: always talk about champagne problems, right, and like think if 299 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: you're the Green Bay Packers, you trade away Aaron Rodgers saying, 300 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: this is the guy we're going with. 301 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: This is the result you have, right, So you're they're pressing. 302 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: They had in their bed a little bit with the 303 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: contract they offered him. 304 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're pressing right a little bit. And so 305 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: this is the thing. They have a ton of young receivers, 306 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: they have offensive line issues, young tackles, young tackle, inexperienced tackles. 307 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: Your quarterback is struggling seeing the field right now, and 308 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: you know that they're going to lean on their two 309 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: running backs right And so to me, the biggest thing 310 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: is you have to get to him now, like right now, yeah, 311 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: or like like the Rams against the Cowboys, sack don't 312 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: have the illegal touching or whatever they called that wasn't that, 313 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: But get those sacks and get to them now to 314 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: get him happy feet, because once he gets happy feet, 315 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: he starts to throw the ball to anybody because he 316 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: can feel depressed. 317 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: Some of you guys weren't encouraged that the first five 318 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: snaps of that Dallas game, Hoyt gets a sack. Next 319 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: play Byron Young gets a sack. A couple of plays later, 320 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald gets a sack. So you bring that same 321 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: sort of intensity, and you don't have the silly ballue 322 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: out call and you get off the field, that entire 323 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: game is different. Yeah, So bring that same intensity to 324 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: Green Bay. You'll get after love just like you got 325 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: after press. 326 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: I got to ask, like a stat research company, how 327 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: many drives end in touchdowns when you get sacked three times? 328 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: I bet it's like less than five prous Oh my gosh. 329 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: In the National Football League, you mentioned two running backs, 330 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: So how about the Rams two running backs? Before we 331 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: get to more about the Rams defense and the trade 332 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: deadline and some other things we're going to talk about 333 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: on this show. They're doing okay despite the loss of 334 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: Hien Willims like, to my eye, Darryl Henderson looks like 335 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: an NFL starter. Still. 336 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: Oh no, they're doing great. 337 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: I've said this on our broadcast multiple times. I'm a 338 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: huge fan of Royce Freeman. I think Darryl gives you 339 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: a different explosiveness than you've seen. He's faster than Kyron 340 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: and Ronnie. He has a different explosive to him. When 341 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: he touches the ball, he runs behind his shoulder pads, 342 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: he falls forward a lot. But then Royce, it's starting 343 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: to get cold, and I know it's not going to 344 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: be as cold in Wisconsin. But as he starts to 345 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: get cold two and forty pounds you talk aj Dillon 346 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: thigh master, he's only ten pounds less than heavier than 347 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: Royce Freeman. Right, that is a guy that starts to 348 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: wear defenses down and breaks you down and then opens 349 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: up your play action pass. So to me, I think 350 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 3: the Rams struck gold with the fact that you kept 351 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: race framing on your roster. You're able to sign Daryl Henderson, 352 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: and then you had the other obviously Rodny Rivers and 353 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: Kyron to get hurt. Right, So now you have four 354 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: guys that you can count on and lean on down 355 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: the stretch if you need to when they come back. 356 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: If you keep four guys and has any screen been 357 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: as effective as the one they hit with Darryl oh? 358 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, wow, god, oh yeah, you get. 359 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: An element of that in your game plan moving forward too, 360 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: it'd be great. 361 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I want to say Darryl's first carry was 362 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: what eight or nine yards? 363 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, when he first came back, I think, no, against Dallas. 364 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: Against Dallas, Yeah, his first carry was fifteen, right, he 365 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: ripped off a fifteen yeard run straight off the couch. 366 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: So give the button gut guys. Credit to the old 367 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: line up front, no question, they've been doing a fantastic job. 368 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: So like we said, they got wider, they got nastier. 369 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: You can lean on them, You can lean on a 370 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: running game. You can definitely lean on them. 371 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: In Green Bay, the Cowboys scored in all three phases 372 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: right like that was a runaway train. And Sean McVay 373 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: said in Maurice's seat on Monday, essentially we got to 374 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: start making some of those plays. And I feel like 375 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: this is the week for that because the Packers are 376 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: turnover prone on offense, but also because the Rams are 377 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: right now like the most efficient special teams unit in 378 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: the league. Like DVOA measures efficiency, they're thirty two out 379 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: of thirty two. It reared its ugly head last week. 380 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: And so this is a game where I'm not just 381 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: talking about making your kicks. That's a good starting point, yeah, 382 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: but you need to positively impact a game in a 383 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: different way with a return, with a non offensive touchdown. 384 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: This offense has carried you to this point. It's been 385 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: the best of the three units defense, special teams. Show 386 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: me something this week going into. 387 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: The buy do you have anyone explosive as a returner. 388 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I think not a turpentype, right, that's what 389 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: I mean, the guy that can blow the game up. Man, 390 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: could that kid move turping? Oh my god, was he flying? 391 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: But he was jogging and running past I just it 392 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: was incredible. That is a game breaker. But I think 393 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: special teams wise, the best thing you can do is 394 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: not make mistas, make your kicks feel the punt cleanly 395 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: and don't give up block punts, tamp down return tamp 396 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: down returns, and go cover. I think that's the best thing. 397 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: You should be able to do. This with the guys 398 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: you have. 399 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: It's funny because it's kind of like an offensive lineman, 400 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: like I don't want to hear your name called, right, 401 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: the best offensive line you never hear their name called. 402 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: And that's the same thing with special teams. 403 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: It should be either you know, decent returns, great coverage, 404 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: you know kicks made. I think for the Rams it's 405 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: been the opposite, right, And this is kind of something 406 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: we've seen throughout I would say this last week showed 407 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: everything that we were worried about throughout the preseason and 408 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: OTAs right, if you thought about it was just like 409 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: young players making mistakes, inexperienced corners, special teams was an issue, 410 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: turnovers on offense that we've seen. 411 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: It's kind of everything this came to head in Dallas. 412 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: Now the question is, and when we talked with John 413 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: after the game, was how do you watch this figure 414 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: this out and then get better and move forward. And 415 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be the the question that those 416 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: those questions will be answered here in a couple of days. 417 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: And which sample size you buying into, oh that was 418 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: four quarters in Dallas? Was the ones think they didn't 419 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: look like a contender or the prior seven weeks where 420 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: they had a path to victory in every single one 421 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: of those games. But one of the areas, one of 422 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: the ways that I see this manifesting is the Rams 423 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: are twenty ninth in the league in average starting field position. Wow, 424 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: They're They're almost always asking their offense to go long field. 425 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: And when they did get the rare takeaway, those takeaways 426 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: haven't turned into seven, either in the hands of the 427 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: defense or shortly thereafter. But now the trade trade deadline 428 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: has come and gone, beg your pardon, and so the 429 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: Rams are who the Rams are going to be. They 430 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: stood pat no buying, no selling. Here's Sean mcvay's take 431 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: on what transpired or didn't transpire come Tuesday afternoon. 432 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 6: I feel really good about a lot of the things 433 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 6: that are going on. You know, it's it always is about, okay, 434 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 6: if there's an interest and then you know, is there 435 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 6: somebody that were interested in or vice versa. So you 436 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 6: know it takes two parties to be involved in things 437 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 6: like that. But you know, the nature of some of 438 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 6: the situations with us in general that you're familiar with 439 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 6: limited in terms of all right, going out and actually 440 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 6: you know, bringing people in, and you know, feel good 441 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 6: about this. I feel good about, you know a lot 442 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 6: of the things that I think we're capable of doing. 443 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 6: Obviously we're not pleased with where we're at through eight games, 444 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 6: but I can see through and I see a lot 445 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 6: of light in regards to some of the things that 446 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 6: you know, you're not just saying it's a false hope, 447 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 6: you're you know, you can see tangible evidence on the 448 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: film that's reflective of I know we can be better 449 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 6: in some of these areas. And I know I've said 450 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 6: that to you guys before, but that's where you know, 451 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 6: you feel really excited about it. This opportunity this week, 452 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: get the buy and then you come back for the 453 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: last eight games and see what we can do with 454 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 6: it where there's a lot of football left to be played. 455 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: And of course Mary's couldn't help himself. While we're listening 456 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: to that, he's talking about Chase Young just landing in 457 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers lap for a deep. 458 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: Third, a deep third. I mean, the Niners are funny. 459 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: It is. 460 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: It's so it's so scary that as you just have laugh, 461 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: like their defense is struggling for three games and they're like, look, 462 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: we've had enough. We're gonna go get the other guy 463 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: that rushed with Nick Bosea to college. And they were 464 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 3: just tormenting people that we're gonna bring them here in 465 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: the league and go and they're both young. That's the 466 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: other scary part. And the thing is this, the Niners 467 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: are gonna rent him for a year. He's gonna hit 468 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: free agency and probably go on. 469 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: But and they'll get that pick back via camp formula exactly. 470 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: It is just like how does this happen? How? 471 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: The question to me they're coming off that SoundBite from 472 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Sean is what are the rants playing for? Right? And 473 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: I feel like the news on Stafford gave them a 474 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: reason to stay in this fight. Yeah, and you look 475 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: at their schedule to date, winning percentage of their past 476 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: opponents five seventy six, nine games above five hundred. They've 477 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: played one of the best schedules in the league. They've 478 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: played a road heavy schedule, They've played some of the 479 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: best pass rushes in the league. The remaining schedule for 480 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: sixty four winning percentage five games below five hundred. So 481 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: I look at that playoff bubble. It seems mushy to me, 482 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: and I think I think nine wins gets you into 483 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: the postseason. Maybe I'm the one being unrealistic. 484 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: No, I think you're dead on. 485 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: But without going down the list and saying them, them, them, 486 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: I see a path to nine wins if the right 487 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: guys are on the field. 488 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 4: And probably so to the other four teams. They look 489 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: at the rams the same way, based on the tape 490 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 4: you just put out there, so and look, it all 491 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: changes if nine is not in the game or if 492 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: he's compromised. So I don't want to keep beating that drum, 493 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: but definitely, but I'm with you on the chase young 494 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: thing that got scary in a hurry San Francisco is 495 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: already scary. Now they got even scarier. They've got more 496 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: of a pass rush. So if that guy was headed west, 497 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 4: I thought he might come here to help out Aaron Donalds. 498 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: So when that passed, I was like, oh, okay, well 499 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: this is where we are. So then I thought maybe 500 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford isn't as banged up as he seems to be. 501 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: And then you get win that he might play. So 502 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: it is what it is. This is your football team. 503 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 4: Like I said, that was your Sunday best in Dallas, 504 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: that was your best roster outside of Rob Havenstein. You 505 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: didn't play that well. You got steamrolled. So let's see 506 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: if you can take that same group down the Green 507 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 4: Bay and get a victory over a team that's probably 508 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: has more struggles than you do at this point. And 509 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 4: I still think even if you do have to start 510 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: Brett Rippin, who do you give the edge too in quarterbacking? 511 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: And by how much? Not very much? 512 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: Right, So this is a game that is on the 513 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 4: table for both football teams. 514 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: I would say this. 515 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: I love the fact that the Rams stayed pat because 516 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: again I think that the second half of the schedule 517 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: is very favorable for them. 518 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: To be able to kind of get rolling and get 519 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: momentum and. 520 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: Always always look at the pass and kind of what happened. 521 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 3: I remember going to San fran the Super Bowl year, 522 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: getting stomped, not winning in November, Right, you got to 523 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: hit some type of adversity, And I feel like Dallas 524 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: was like the It was like Cincinnati kind of started it, 525 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh was the middle, and then Dallas it all came 526 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: to the head. Now it's time to see this team 527 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: kind of turn the page. 528 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: And get going. And so when I look at this 529 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: and I look at what the Rams. 530 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: Are doing, you're running the ball bear than you ever 531 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: had in the last three to four years. Will at 532 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: least send Todd Gurley right. Play action passes work and 533 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: you're getting to the quarterback quickly. You do have to 534 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: fix special teams, which special teams was an issue a 535 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. To win the Super Bowl. That 536 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: special teams was an issue early throughout that year. So 537 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: these aren't These aren't problems that the Rams haven't faced 538 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: before and haven't fixed, I guess, is what I'm trying 539 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: to say. Right, these are issues that they've they've become 540 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: accustomed to over the years and they they've been able 541 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 3: to fix them, so I could see why they stayed 542 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: padd and they're ready to kind of push. 543 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: And coverage too, Like, let's just call that out. Going 544 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: to Dallas, they'd only allowed four passing touchdowns all season, 545 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: and they'd had some good moments, they had some bad moments, 546 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: but then Dak gets them for four through the year, 547 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: and it looks a lot worse maybe than it has 548 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: through the first seven. 549 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Looked completely different, didn't ceedee Lamb wasn't covered on one place. Yeah, 550 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: he looked completely different. 551 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of things you mentioned November. The Rams 552 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: haven't won a November game since Monday Night Football at 553 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in twenty twenty. Did you know that long. 554 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: He hit me with that? I called? I told you 555 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: November is it hasn't been kind. 556 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: So let's get rid of that. And the Rams are 557 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: seeking their first win in Green Bay since two thousand 558 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: and six, five straight losses including the playoffs, since a 559 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: couple of streaks, nasty streaks. They can end this week. 560 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: Like I said, I feel better because that guy isn't 561 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: there anymore. 562 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: State of the Packers. I feel like we've touched on 563 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: throughout our conversation so far. I'll just add this, The 564 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Packers scored twenty or fewer points in each of their 565 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: last five games, and they traded Rasul Douglas this week. 566 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: Douglas was one of the defensive back that I thought 567 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: gave the Rams and problems. Had to pick six against 568 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: Stafford a couple of years back. So I wonder what 569 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: their disposition, their attitude is going to be like when 570 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: they show up to work this week, Like what kind 571 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: of signal did that send of their locker room with 572 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: only two wins? 573 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: Well, it could go one of two ways. Either it 574 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 4: sends you all the way to the bottom or you 575 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: start the rally. Now, look, I look at their defense, 576 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: and I like they've got some great parts. 577 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 2: They really do. 578 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 4: They have some talented athletes, the two kids, the two 579 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 4: guys they just drafted in the first round this year, 580 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: those are going to be studs at some point. But 581 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: for some reason that defense has not come together. Now, 582 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: blame whoever you want to blame, but that's just the issue. 583 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: And offensively, like you said, it's very pedestrian. You have 584 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 4: young guys at receiver and a quarterback that's trying to 585 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 4: figure it out. If this isn't the time for this 586 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: defense to step up and be dominant? Then I don't 587 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 4: know what is. Like I said, this is why I 588 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 4: keep going back to the Brett Rippon thing. This would 589 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: be if you could pick a week to start a 590 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 4: backup quarterback, this would be it right here. So this 591 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: is a game you should be able to win by 592 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: running the football and playing. 593 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: Statistically, they did look gettable on defense, however, not that 594 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm giving Joe Barring company a pass, but they haven't 595 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: been getting much help. No, no, I mean they haven't 596 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: been put in many favorable situations where they can go 597 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: get out. 598 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: And they just paid for Shaun Garry. So like I 599 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: understand trading Raschuld. You're not going to pay him. She 600 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: got to get something for him. That's kind of prior 601 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: of the deal. Like we just paid a dude that's performing. Yeah, 602 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: So that sends a different message as well, like, hey, 603 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: this guy's getting sacks. 604 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: We just cashed him out right. The other guy we 605 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: just couldn't. 606 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: We didn't, we didn't have him in the budget, so 607 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: we wanted to get something for him. 608 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: So that's a different mentality. 609 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: It's just, man, I don't know, It's just it's green 610 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: Bay right up there. 611 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: You just you know. 612 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: Rashan Gary is getting after quarterbacks. It's just to me 613 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: like and for the Rams that must win. And that's 614 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: that's why I always go back like, this is one 615 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: of those games where you need to get this one, 616 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: not not have to, but you really need to get 617 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: going into the Bible. 618 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: Ja Alexander and the Packers feel the same way too. 619 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, what else is he gonna say. But he's 620 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: showing up to work saying we're gonna win these next 621 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: ten games. Yeah, we're gonna run the table. So you 622 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: might get that version of the Packers too. Exactly what 623 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: is then your key to victory? 624 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: Go ahead? 625 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 4: Running the football? You said it. I love the way 626 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: this team is running football. I love the way this 627 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: offensive line has been coming off the rock. If you 628 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: didn't have the mistakes in Dallas and that game stayed, 629 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: even if you didn't have the benefit of those or 630 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: if Dallas didn't have the benefit of those bad coals 631 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: that kept them on the field, that gave up the 632 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: touchdown in the first drive, and you let this offensive 633 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: line pound on that defense, I think you run the 634 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 4: daylights out of the football. I think the same can 635 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 4: be true about the Packers. If you don't hurt yourself, 636 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: if you don't make mistakes, and you stay efficient and 637 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 4: stay on schedule, you should be able to run the 638 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 4: football and play defense behind it enough to win. 639 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: This person isn't playing nose against guy. 640 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: Should have heard him, Man, I'm coming. They can't stop me. 641 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 3: Listen when he started to play the nose. Oh, I 642 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: was like, oh no, that we didn't want that. It's interesting, right, yeah, yeah, 643 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 3: Like cause you understand, dude, that's that's tough on any center. 644 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: I don't care the best centers in the world. It's 645 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: hard a guy that's over you, like you ever seen 646 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett do the basketball thing over like you have 647 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 3: to guess because he has a two way go and 648 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: he's going to go. 649 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: Away away from the slide. So think about it. 650 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: Their best pass rusher is on theoretically your worst pass 651 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: blockers in the center, the guy that's uncovered most of 652 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: the time. 653 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: Then they find a way to single him up. 654 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, and such a flex too, because you're still 655 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: saying we're good enough on the edge to win out 656 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: there too. Even moving this guy the cap didn't mean 657 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: to go on that tangent, but it did come to mind. 658 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: It's going to keep coming back up. Mine's going to 659 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: be no turnovers or winning the turnover differential. Get turnovers 660 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: and then don't turn the ball over. I think again, 661 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: if you can do that right, the pick six, I 662 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: think the pick sinse was like, the first touchdown was. 663 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: Fine, and getting the field goal was cool. 664 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: Coming back out and giving a pick six, that's when 665 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: the snowball just started to get too big for the 666 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: Rams to be able to hold up turn You can't 667 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: throw interceptions and you have to take the ball away. 668 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: On defense. 669 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: You have to get at least one turnover on defense 670 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: to set up a score or score on defense. 671 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Mine's going to be like the biggest cop out key 672 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: of all time. Like I roll my eyes every time 673 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: someone says they got to start fast. No, right, that's 674 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: just like, okay, show me the one football game in 675 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: the history of the sport where some teams like, we'll 676 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: be fine as long as you don't fall behind by 677 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: more than ten, like we got this. No, everybody wants 678 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: to start fast. You want to play from the league. 679 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: But I think it's especially pertin in this situation because 680 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: of what we talked about with the Packers. They've scored 681 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: nine points combined in their last five first halfs. And 682 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: if they are in a fragile state, if they are 683 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: looking like they're on the brink in terms of what 684 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: are we playing for? Is this season going anywhere? Don't 685 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: give them hope. Yeah, turn out the lights, let tititletown know. 686 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: It's not this year for you guys. Because the Rams 687 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: helped the Packers get back on their feet last year. Remember, 688 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we're walking around that place at Lambeau and like, 689 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: not even the most die hard Packers felt like they 690 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: had a playoff chance. I was like, really, because I 691 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: look at your roster and I think you guys can 692 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: get on a heater And they're like, no, that's just 693 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. 694 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 2: Talking about dumping Rogers. 695 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: Remember that, yes, and then you know it's not for 696 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: Jered Goff and the lines in that week eighteen, they 697 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: would have been in a pass. 698 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: It's all about morale, right, When you feel down and 699 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: you've been beat up a little bit and you're coming 700 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: off starting fast changes everything. It's like being in a 701 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: boxing match. Whoever's hands let go first, whoever can let 702 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: go their hands first, that guy's gonna have the better 703 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: chance to win it, right, And so I think for 704 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: the Rams, having a successful exposive play in the first 705 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: three plays, right, getting that confidence back, having Pukin Nakua 706 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: flex or Cooper cup catch a pass right, a tough pass, 707 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: those things, it brings energy. And as that energy goes 708 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it kind of it starts to 709 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: snowball for you, right, Like that's what you want. 710 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: I'll say this to Marco. If you want to give 711 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: Stafford the week off, you better tell him that the 712 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: plane leaves it three when it leaves it to a 713 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: I know, or that the bus leaves that line when 714 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: it leaves it eight forty. If he gets at that stadium. 715 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be the guy that tells him 716 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: he's not playing this week. 717 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: Me neither. 718 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun to say it in here. It's different 719 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: to say it to it. I'm yeah, I'm next to him, 720 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: like we need you on. 721 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: You need extra treatment, I'll bring you, I'll stay late, 722 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: I'll do whatever it takes. 723 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: What you need. 724 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: You need groceries, I'll go get those two. However we 725 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: got to do it, We'll get it done because we 726 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: need you, we need it all. That's the mindset. Listen, 727 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: I get it. I'm the opposite. Hey, what does keep 728 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: playing his state to the wheels fall off? We'll figure 729 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: it out, and I think Stafford that's I love that mane. 730 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: I love that that. I loved him coming out of 731 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: half making that throawt I forgot who the first throw 732 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: is to, but then making that throw to uh uh 733 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: scornic right with the thumb, and then making a catch, 734 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: a heck of a catch, better catch than most receivers 735 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: that we've seen in the league, And like I need that. 736 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: Nothing heals faster than a win, right. 737 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: No doubt. It's good deodorant too, oh covers up a 738 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: lot of stink for. 739 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: M J D. 740 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: DeMarco far I'm JB. Long looking forward to being back 741 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, hopefully on the winning end this time 742 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: in week nine. Thanks as always for being with us 743 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: for Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers.