WEBVTT - Ep. 87: Bear Grease [Render] - Olympic Shooter Kayle Browning and Other Big Wigs 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:17.080 Yeah. My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.680 of the bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.160 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:44.280 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.680 The only rules on this podcast, or there are no rules. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.360 There's a few rules. You'll find them out as we go. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:58.800 Number one, do not interrupt Misty. I like how you 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.600 waited till she was done speak. You know, in your 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.800 last episode you did talk about people who respect their wives, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:10.479 so it makes sense you brought that up so quickly, Misty. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.640 Would you like me to speak to that, to give 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:20.320 a count of that. I'm just kidding. I like, I've 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.319 got my flannel. Do you get cold, Misty? Very yes, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.880 very much so. That negative temperature last week was not 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.440 good on your garden or you It wasn't. But they 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.039 built me a fire. This is not a joke. We 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.319 have a wood burning stove and I get so close 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.720 to it that I have marks on my back. You're kidding, 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.760 and I'm like, I'm good, I feel fine. And the 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:43.320 girls are like, could you step away? Nor make's night, 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:51.560 gown's night. I don't get that there's fireproof. No, there 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:59.919 you go, No, Max, excuse my friend. He's from Raydale. Okay, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.400 here's here's what we're gonna do. I want you to 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:09.040 introduce the person to your left. One of these people 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.520 doesn't even know the person to their left, but you're 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.440 gonna have to introduce them just with what you know 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:20.960 about him. So um, we have a very very exciting 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.919 group of people here today, everyone to follow up on 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:28.200 our Duck Stories podcast. To my left is Brent Reeves, 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:33.480 wearing a fine pair of round house overalls, looking good today, Brent. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.560 I was talking to a guy the other day, an 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.200 old man from Clarendon, Arkansas. And when I got off 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.960 the phone with him, he said, he said, oh, you 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.240 sound great. I hope you have a great holiday. And 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.880 it was like old school like I was. It made 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.160 me feel so good. I was like, you sound I 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.320 sound great? He told me I sounded great, Brent, you 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.080 sound great, buddy. Thank you. Man. Who's who's to your 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:06.079 left immediate left is Austin Booth. I don't know what numbers. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.560 I don't know what number he is on your program, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.440 but he ought to be number one in your heart. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.720 You gotta give us a little more functional introduction than 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.919 Austin happens to be the director of the Arkansas Game 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.120 and Fish Commission. He is a you don't say X, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:27.160 I know you say for farmer marine officer. He's running. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.800 He's paddling the boat over there at the Game of Fishes. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:34.320 Are distinguished guests, distinguished guests Director of the Game of Fish. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.760 He's got on a pair of Newish How about we 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:42.160 describe what everyone's wearing, Newish danners. Some I got him 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.200 a year ago, some khaki you were new. They were 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.480 new on the first rinder that you come up here on. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.000 I remember I supposed to be your church boots looked at. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.320 Don't look like they've been beat around too much. I 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.560 just take a really good camel marine care try you 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.000 take care of your feet and will take care of you. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.640 A brown T shirt with Duck calls on it. It 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:13.120 says call call a Pelooza, assuming at call plus m 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.560 from the Call A plus event and wearing a vintage 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:21.119 duckson limen camp. Great. Great, have you director Booth? Always 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.880 good to be here? Yes, how about your introduced person 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.480 to your left on my left is it guests far 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.479 more distinguished than me, one of our commissioners on the 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:36.280 Arkansas Game Fish Commission, and Marie de Ramos, lilng outdoorsman, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:42.479 avid water fowler, avid bass angler, gad wall killer wall Wall. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:48.160 Yea love it amateur duck hunter. She is wearing a 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:54.560 really striking uh set of footwear. It's vintage Camo Christmas 0:04:54.600 --> 0:05:01.120 crocks currently in two wheel drive mode. Yes, yes, and uh. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.360 The vintage Camo pattern of the crocs are somewhat similar 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.279 but not identical to the Vantage Camo flannel shirt she's wearing. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.040 Very It's great to have you here. Glad to be here, 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.280 Clay and Misty, thanks for having us. So you were 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.200 on the render last year about this time, Yeah, about 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.400 a year ago. I was after I introduced you to 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.159 the great migratory bird that is a cad wall. That's right, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.159 that's right. And I was greeted by your trusty squirrel dog, 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.279 Tim the squirrel dog. He was down there with us 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.520 last year. So we hunted with and Marie and her 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.719 bunch for a week, five days, five days last year. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.239 It was it was my largest exposure to duck hunting 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.279 like continued exposure and you've got to meet my friend 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.880 named Possum. Yes, it's a big deal. Mistery, you missed out. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.400 I feel like I did. You were invited f y, 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.279 I WHOA did I? What did I know? I was 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:04.160 remember about wife appreciation, Clay, and great to have you. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.159 Thank you for being introduced us to another very distinguished 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.240 guest to your left. Definitely, uh, in my opinion, the 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:17.080 most distinguished guests. Because she is an Olympian and her 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.520 name is Kayleie Browning went in competed on behalf of 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.480 the United States of America in the Olympics and won 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.400 a silver medal in trap shooting. And besides being an 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.880 excellent shot, she's an excellent all around duck hunter. I 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.800 could say I've been out duck hunting with her, and 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.280 well it was more of a goose hunt that ended 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.240 up turning into duck hunt. Uh. The geese weren't really 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.960 cooperating that morning. But yeah, we have Kayleie here and 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.480 she is a shooting coach and my shooting coach, and 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.599 she has helped me so so much. Yes, I thought 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.880 that I could handle a shotgun. Then I went to 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.440 see her and her dad, and I quickly realized, Wow, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.360 I wish I had done this years ago. She helped 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.719 me a ton man. That's a good that's a good intro. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.160 She's half in me up. I'm happy to be here. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.280 Thank you for having me. There's a thousand questions I 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.080 want to ask you. We'll do that after you introduce 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:12.080 Who's to your left? I get to scrap what she's wearing? Right? Yeah, yeah, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:18.280 don't interrupt them? Yeah what are you thinking? One? Jeez? 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.080 All right? So old school Nike tennis shoes which I love, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.400 Camo vest with a green shirt, lick and fly. Yeah, 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.960 I'm speaking of fly. She's also a pilot, really, yes, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.320 very true. So Shamy couldn't fly up here today the 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.160 weather sicking kind of iffy. Yeah, it didn't work out, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:41.040 but we will next time. Yes, thank you, Amory. So 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.200 to my left is Misty Um, which I think where's 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:49.080 you know? Is the leader here? From what I'm gathering 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.160 in my short amount of time that i've I've met her, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.400 probably twenty minutes now, I've gathered she is a chicken former, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.280 which we have in common. A she has a green thumb, 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.920 has a pretty mean garden. I hear um and you 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:11.480 can cook a mean biscuit, all right. Yeah. Um. She 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:17.040 is wearing her chicken boots with a with a striped 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:21.480 shirt and a cozy flannel for today. Excellent, very good intro. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:33.000 Do I introduce you there, you're you're an Olympian, tell us, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.720 give us a give us a there's you could probably 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.280 talk for an hour, a quick version of like your 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.520 career in shooting, and just kind of yeah, just tell 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.440 us a little bit about your story. So I am 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.360 Daddy's little girl. He says that I'm the son he 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.280 never had. UM. So I grew up fishing and hunting 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.679 with him and shooting shotguns, and he was a competitive 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.280 shotgun shooter. So that's how I got into it. Um. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.960 When I was eight years old, I competed in my 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.160 first competition in sporting clays, which is like a hunted 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.800 simulated game, and went to went to a shoot, fell 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.720 in love with it, and from there, when I was 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.559 fifteen years old, actually fourteen years old, I found out 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.440 that shooting was in the Olympics. So I told my dad. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.280 I was like, oh my gosh, shootings in Olympics, Like 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.319 we have to try because I've just been obsessed with 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.920 the Olympics since I was tiny, UM, and he was like, 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.920 all right, well let's let's give it a go. So 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:29.280 maybe my first team UM at fifteen traveled to Munich, Germany. 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.920 It was just a whole culture shock. I remember, you qualify. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:34.800 I mean, qualifying for the Olympics is a big deal 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.520 though it is. Yeah, yeah, So in between the Olympics 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.960 we have I don't know, yeah, it's it's it's yeah, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.440 small thing. UM. In between the Olympics we have World Cups. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.480 UM in the in the quad before. So that's the 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.280 first team that I made was a World Cup team. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.280 So I went to Munich, Germany, and I remember going 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.600 to this restaurant and I asked for sweet tea because 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:00.400 that's what I grew up. I thought every to drink 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.000 sweet tea. And the lady there's you know, the communication 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.560 barrier there that wasn't translating well, and she she brought 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.760 back some sugarcubes and hot black tea and she was 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.160 like here you go. And I was like, well, I guess, 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.800 and you can have a cup of eyes like yeah. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.840 So made that team when I was fifteen, UM, and 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:24.440 since then I've set national records, world records. UM. I 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:29.720 just became the most decorated woman for trap in u 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:36.640 S history and then and then went to Tokyo competed 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.119 at Olympics and won silver metal. So sweet, Wow, that's incredible. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.800 And so you're from. Tell us where you're from. I 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.600 am from a small town UM called Wooster, Arkansas, which 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.679 is like forty five minutes north of lit Rock. Do 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:55.760 in Arkansas? Where to go? So? Now I heard an 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:01.319 interesting story about how your dad got into well competive 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.800 competitive shooting. Will you tell me that story? Do you 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.560 know what story? I'm talking about? The very very first, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.960 the very first time he shot competitively. So I've heard 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.880 a story of him. Some guy invited him to go 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:24.280 to a shoot and Austin stories better. I'm sure it was. Yeah, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:29.920 this is um Wooster folklore, Okay. But the story that 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.439 I was told was that Kaylee's dad was on a 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.920 job out of state and uh, I think it was 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.800 in Oklahoma and was just running down the highway somewhere 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.200 and saw all these signs for the shooting event and 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.640 I didn't know anything about it, had a shotgun in 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.400 his truck. He dropped in said, hey, what's the shooting 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.320 event that you all have? And they said, Oh, this 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.120 is uh, um a trap competition we have this weekend. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.920 Uh it's a national qualifier, but it's also open to 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.600 the public. So uh. The story that I was told 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.680 was that he paid the fee to compete, just somebody 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.760 off the street, and that he ended up coming in 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:13.079 second place his first event ever. Yeah yeah, so he 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.360 well yeah, so he actually a couple of years before that, 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.400 got invited to go to a sporting clay shoot and 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.719 was had no idea what it was, and he's, I 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.080 don't know what that is. So he kind of like 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.200 blew it off in and went to that shoot. Um. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.800 I think it was in Oklahoma. They weren't. He's he's 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.800 a welder. He ends a fabrication shop. So they used 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.840 to travel all the time and go to different job sites. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.240 And yeah, so he's he's the best shot. I think 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:42.840 Amory can attest to this too, Tommy. So the story 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.880 was is that he just had his like hunting shotgun 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.920 and went and competed in all these like pro shooters 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.800 pretty much yeah and all. And I think it was 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.320 a trap shoot too. And you know, older trap guys 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.480 tend to have a stereotype about him. They kind of 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.200 like turned their nose up to you if you're not 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.959 somebody in there, and he was probably in Camo cross 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:05.520 sucks in shooting old eight seventy years something. The nicest man. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.560 You can shoot better than your dad. Though, since he's 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.560 not here, I'm gonna say yes. Second, Okay, I figured 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.440 he could. I figured you could. Now he I cannot 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.360 shoot him in in my game just because I do 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.320 it so much, But he can still humble me anytime 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:25.000 he wants to. Okay, how does um, how does trap 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.679 shooting or what you do translate in the field shooting ducks? 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.319 So what I shoot comparatively? Um, it's called the International 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.200 Trap And just the short explanation of what that is. 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.439 It's an underground bunker that has fifteen trap machines in it, 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.160 and they are coming. They can go anywhere from forty 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.240 five degrees left to forty five degrees right and up 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.120 to three meters high, so they're just a widespread of 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.800 targets coming out. Um. The tricky part about him is 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.880 you don't know the direction that's going, and it's going 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.560 about seventy five. So if you've got a bird like 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.600 let's say, quell hunting alone, no quell quiet going say 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.760 about my is an hour, but you flush a covey 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.160 of quell and they get up and they're going any directions. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:05.760 I mean, you've got to be on them pretty quick. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.920 So it translates really well into like pigeon shooting or 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.679 upland hunting or anything like that. Yeah, so Amory, how 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:18.080 does she do in the Doug Blond pretty? Oh my gosh, 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:22.400 speaking of I got my first double last yeah, last Friday. Yeah, 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.240 I don't want to ruin it because I know we're 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.760 going to get around telling stories, but just speaking at that, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.640 it was a perfect opportunity. But yeah, she knocks him down. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:34.120 And on that note about the bunker trap that you do. Uh. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:35.600 I was out at her place and I said, hey, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.160 I want to see how this thing works. You know, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.840 maybe I'm feeling good enough. I've been hitting some clay targets. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.440 Maybe I'll get up there and shoot. She goes, all right, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.240 here we go, and I go, did you press the button? 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.760 She goes, yeah, to have come out. She said, Oh, 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.600 is that the target is so fast? Yeah, they're they're 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.880 super fast. Oh my goodness, it's insane. But yeah, she's 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.400 she's a good shot. So I will attest to that 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.160 the stuff still stand a chance. Are there any Is 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.800 there any shooting competition that would simulate something coming towards 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.280 you and down? Yeah, for sure. That's sporting plays coming 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.120 towards you. Yeah. Yeah, sporting plays has what I'm thinking. Yeah, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.480 it has no limitation of what the target can do 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.440 and how it presents itself. So they can come at you, 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.120 then go over your head, they can cross, they can 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.720 roll on the ground, they can I mean, there's no 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.720 limit at all. It's what they can do. Mm hmm. Austin, 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.520 how many ducks have you missed this year? A lot? 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.320 Have you? Really? Yeah? So I had some issues with 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.320 my gun. Um bent barrel, not a bent barrel, but 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.640 um I had I had some work done on the 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:44.080 forcing cone, uh, on the really technical answer on the shotgun, 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.080 and then put a third party choke tube in there. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.480 And I was chasing, and I suspect that there was 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.040 something wrong with it, but was also being as self 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.960 critical as one should and hesitant to instantly blame it 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:02.880 on the weapon. Uh. But I had not been hit anything. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.760 And then I was chasing a cripple down and it 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.200 was it was that one of the it was three 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.360 three degrees yeah. It was too way too cold to 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.400 have a dog out there. So we were chasing down 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.400 the cripple and I was about twenty five yards away 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:24.760 from from the duck. Very carefully put my weapon up. Uh, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.400 sensitive to the fact that I've been missing a lot. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.600 I pulled the trigger and the gun patterned about halfway 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.400 between me and the duck. Um. So call the folks 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.200 that worked on it. They said, we'll send you a choke. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.280 SENDMI brand new choke, and I'm back on the board. Really, 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.640 so it was the joke messed up from the factory. No, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.800 it just didn't interact well with aftermarket modifications to the 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.240 forcing kind and it was a really tight choke. Be honest, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:57.680 is this the choke that I bought you when you 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.080 were like, Hey, while you're at SO and so, you 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.680 pick me up. You're smiling. It is the one. Yes, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:09.000 it is. Did you bend it? I don't know, don't 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:14.399 ask me. Interesting So I wasn't trying to brib salt 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:19.480 in the wound. I'm just going to leave right now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.000 Well it's just the weirdest thing because every gun is different, 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.240 and you know, you can take a hundred guns with 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:30.520 a hundred identical chokes and you may get fifty different 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.240 results out of it. Wow. So for the ones that 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.720 you're missing, you have to tell your daughter is picking 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.639 them up. Yes, yeah, she went on her first stuckcutt 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.920 killed her first stuck. Yeah. Hey. I learned something about 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.080 squirrel hunting two days ago when we had a real 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.560 good squirrel hunt, is that the further they are away 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.959 with a shotgun, the better chance you haven't hitting them. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.520 And they're close and they're tough. We were, we were 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.640 knocking down some squirrels we were hunting in those arcs. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.600 And so there was one time when three of us 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.199 were shooting at the same squirrel timbering out across a 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.840 ravine and we'd we'd ridden up on the mules and 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.239 the dogs were treated right across the ravine directly from us. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.679 I didn't I didn't have a range rider, but I 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.520 really believe it was fifty yards. And when the dogs 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.240 are treated, we ride up, we're on deep ravine. You 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.360 couldn't just get over there real quick like. It would 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.520 probably been three or four minutes before we could have 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.200 got over there. When you get there, the squirrel breaks, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.800 and when they break and start timbering, they're heading for 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.480 a hole, and so this is pretty much like the 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.960 moment that we have and there's three of us on 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:39.919 mules and we all three just like come off the 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.399 saddle boom, boom, boom, and we killed that squirrel probably 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.960 fifty yards. There's no way we would have hit it 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.439 if it had been like closer spread out. So what 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.720 I'm trying to say, awesome, is that if you'd sky 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.080 bust these ducks or you probably had a better chance 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.560 of killing something. Well you're using lead though, weren't you. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.080 truth comes out. Yeah, yeah, Hey, I think you need 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.679 to talk about your squirrel hunt. I will at sometimes 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:12.239 I've got really interesting people. Okay, okay, squirrels. You and 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.000 I went squirrel hunting last year after we went duck hunting. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.639 That was that was an experience. That was a lot 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.960 of fun. It's squirrel hunting a thing that you had 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:24.800 done before, you know, not, No, it isn't, especially with dogs. 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.080 So I'm sitting here thinking I've ever been on a 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.560 legitimate squirrel hunt. No, no, I haven't. So that was 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.280 the first time. It's it's a lot of fun. It's 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.439 good when it's when it's good hunting and it was 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.320 the other day we had a we had a great 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.800 hunt on public land in Arkansas, state owned public land. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:49.640 Um amazing, Austin, Look, we have a conflict. I want 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:58.760 more people to get out twelve miles and I mean 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:03.199 part of squirrel On success is just it's just, uh, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.680 if you if you stay out there all day long, 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.840 you're just gonna kill stuff as opposed to on a 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.199 small little hunt. Hey, I mentioned a state owned w 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.119 A in this episode. Were you happy about that? I 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.920 was very happy, Were you really? I was also nic surprised. Hey, 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:19.800 I had another story you'll know that they cut out 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:28.400 because it was too it told too many details where 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:33.200 people get uh, people get upset with me about that 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.480 kind of stuff. That's the reason I'll put that disclaimer 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.800 in the podcast. All right, well you can bleep it out. 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:43.879 And I saw a few on that what's that about? 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:45.960 Where I was hunting that story that I told, I 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.440 saw a few, Yeah, people got upset. He saw a 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.639 few coming. Yeah, And I tried to discourage See, I 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.560 was trying to keep Austin in mind by promoting the 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.760 w A. But then I was like, don't come here. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.040 Do you want to explore go somewhere else. We confirmed 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:09.840 we killed every squirrel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um. So do 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:14.080 you have any questions for Kayleie ms Nucombe? Well, I'm 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.720 just do you plan on competing again? So I yes, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.200 I do. I'm going to try for again. Okay. And 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:25.200 is there a point in your sport where people age 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.919 out of it? Question? That is a really good question. 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:33.639 So shooting is as good as your eyes are. There's 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:38.359 not really a It's not a super athletic sport. Um. 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.040 So as long as you can see the target, you're 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:44.280 you're pretty competitive. I compete against girls who are in 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.280 their fifties for sure, So it's the younger ones definitely 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.520 have a little advantage there, but there's not really a 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.480 cap out age like geno pastics or something like that. Okay, 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:57.240 that's pretty cool. What about hearing? Shooting as much as 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.200 you do, even with your protection, do you think you're 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.960 hearing is compromised anyway? I'm sure over the years, because 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:09.199 I've shot for twenty one years now, so just in 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.919 almost every day, and if it's not competing I'm hunting 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.080 or whatever, I'm sure it's taking a toll on that. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.159 But we there's technology is so awesome now I have 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:21.199 digital ear plugs that like cancel out the shot and 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.480 just I mean, I mean, so I wish I would 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.080 have started on that because they'd probably be a lot 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.359 better than what they are now. But it's it's as 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.760 little as it can be. Yeah, Man, hearing is a 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.840 bummer for me. I the other day we shot a 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.160 lot squirrel hunting, and I was wearing just like at 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.119 the first half of the day, I was wearing just 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:44.879 standard a little squishy ear plugs, you know. And man, 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.639 by the second half the day, I was wearing full 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:51.440 ear muffs like you know, which is a handful to 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.240 keep up with when you're shooting quick and not knowing 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.840 where your shoot. But man, I came home that night 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:00.720 and I was I couldn't hardly sleep. He's got I 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.280 was gonna say, when you asked her if her hearing 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.600 was impacted, we should probably ask her spouse, because I 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.920 know for me, you have to I have to sit 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.399 at a certain spot in a room. So like if 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.639 we're gonna whisper, if we're going to a meeting and 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:19.480 we know we're gonna whisper, Yeah, I do have a 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.360 like a for real bad here. That's that's my dad, 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.359 because I mean he grew up in the in the 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.480 generation where you would just go out and hunt. There 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.400 was no ear protection. So I joke all the time. 0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:31.640 He'll say what or hunt, and I'm like, a great, 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.320 I can't hear a thing. Yeah, I got a question? 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.760 What what? I got two questions? What's your favorite thing 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:41.400 to hunt? My favorite thing to hunt is ducks? And 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.760 I used to it used to be just purely on 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.199 on killing the ducks, but now it's more of the 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.920 environment and who I'm with and watching my dog's Wait. Sure, 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:53.080 that's that's the age that comes along with it. So 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.280 let me ask you this. Would you rather shoot a 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.280 perfect score on the trap range or get a limited ducks? 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:02.639