1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production 2 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: of the bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. 7 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: The only rules on this podcast, or there are no rules. 8 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: There's a few rules. You'll find them out as we go. 9 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Number one, do not interrupt Misty. I like how you 10 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: waited till she was done speak. You know, in your 11 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: last episode you did talk about people who respect their wives, 12 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: so it makes sense you brought that up so quickly, Misty. 13 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Would you like me to speak to that, to give 14 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: a count of that. I'm just kidding. I like, I've 15 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: got my flannel. Do you get cold, Misty? Very yes, 16 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: very much so. That negative temperature last week was not 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: good on your garden or you It wasn't. But they 18 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: built me a fire. This is not a joke. We 19 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: have a wood burning stove and I get so close 20 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: to it that I have marks on my back. You're kidding, 21 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm good, I feel fine. And the 22 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: girls are like, could you step away? Nor make's night, 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: gown's night. I don't get that there's fireproof. No, there 24 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 1: you go, No, Max, excuse my friend. He's from Raydale. Okay, 25 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: here's here's what we're gonna do. I want you to 26 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: introduce the person to your left. One of these people 27 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: doesn't even know the person to their left, but you're 28 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to introduce them just with what you know 29 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: about him. So um, we have a very very exciting 30 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: group of people here today, everyone to follow up on 31 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: our Duck Stories podcast. To my left is Brent Reeves, 32 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: wearing a fine pair of round house overalls, looking good today, Brent. 33 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: I was talking to a guy the other day, an 34 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: old man from Clarendon, Arkansas. And when I got off 35 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: the phone with him, he said, he said, oh, you 36 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: sound great. I hope you have a great holiday. And 37 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: it was like old school like I was. It made 38 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: me feel so good. I was like, you sound I 39 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: sound great? He told me I sounded great, Brent, you 40 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: sound great, buddy. Thank you. Man. Who's who's to your 41 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: left immediate left is Austin Booth. I don't know what numbers. 42 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what number he is on your program, 43 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: but he ought to be number one in your heart. 44 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: You gotta give us a little more functional introduction than 45 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: Austin happens to be the director of the Arkansas Game 46 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: and Fish Commission. He is a you don't say X, 47 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: I know you say for farmer marine officer. He's running. 48 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: He's paddling the boat over there at the Game of Fishes. 49 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: Are distinguished guests, distinguished guests Director of the Game of Fish. 50 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: He's got on a pair of Newish How about we 51 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: describe what everyone's wearing, Newish danners. Some I got him 52 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: a year ago, some khaki you were new. They were 53 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: new on the first rinder that you come up here on. 54 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: I remember I supposed to be your church boots looked at. 55 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: Don't look like they've been beat around too much. I 56 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: just take a really good camel marine care try you 57 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: take care of your feet and will take care of you. 58 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: A brown T shirt with Duck calls on it. It 59 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: says call call a Pelooza, assuming at call plus m 60 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: from the Call A plus event and wearing a vintage 61 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 1: duckson limen camp. Great. Great, have you director Booth? Always 62 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: good to be here? Yes, how about your introduced person 63 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: to your left on my left is it guests far 64 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: more distinguished than me, one of our commissioners on the 65 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Arkansas Game Fish Commission, and Marie de Ramos, lilng outdoorsman, 66 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: avid water fowler, avid bass angler, gad wall killer wall Wall. 67 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: Yea love it amateur duck hunter. She is wearing a 68 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: really striking uh set of footwear. It's vintage Camo Christmas 69 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: crocks currently in two wheel drive mode. Yes, yes, and uh. 70 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: The vintage Camo pattern of the crocs are somewhat similar 71 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: but not identical to the Vantage Camo flannel shirt she's wearing. 72 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: Very It's great to have you here. Glad to be here, 73 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: Clay and Misty, thanks for having us. So you were 74 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: on the render last year about this time, Yeah, about 75 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: a year ago. I was after I introduced you to 76 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: the great migratory bird that is a cad wall. That's right, 77 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: that's right. And I was greeted by your trusty squirrel dog, 78 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: Tim the squirrel dog. He was down there with us 79 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: last year. So we hunted with and Marie and her 80 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: bunch for a week, five days, five days last year. 81 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: It was it was my largest exposure to duck hunting 82 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: like continued exposure and you've got to meet my friend 83 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: named Possum. Yes, it's a big deal. Mistery, you missed out. 84 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I did. You were invited f y, 85 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I WHOA did I? What did I know? I was 86 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: remember about wife appreciation, Clay, and great to have you. 87 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Thank you for being introduced us to another very distinguished 88 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: guest to your left. Definitely, uh, in my opinion, the 89 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: most distinguished guests. Because she is an Olympian and her 90 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: name is Kayleie Browning went in competed on behalf of 91 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: the United States of America in the Olympics and won 92 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: a silver medal in trap shooting. And besides being an 93 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: excellent shot, she's an excellent all around duck hunter. I 94 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: could say I've been out duck hunting with her, and 95 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: well it was more of a goose hunt that ended 96 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: up turning into duck hunt. Uh. The geese weren't really 97 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: cooperating that morning. But yeah, we have Kayleie here and 98 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: she is a shooting coach and my shooting coach, and 99 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: she has helped me so so much. Yes, I thought 100 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: that I could handle a shotgun. Then I went to 101 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: see her and her dad, and I quickly realized, Wow, 102 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: I wish I had done this years ago. She helped 103 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: me a ton man. That's a good that's a good intro. 104 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: She's half in me up. I'm happy to be here. 105 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. There's a thousand questions I 106 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: want to ask you. We'll do that after you introduce 107 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Who's to your left? I get to scrap what she's wearing? Right? Yeah, yeah, 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: don't interrupt them? Yeah what are you thinking? One? Jeez? 109 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: All right? So old school Nike tennis shoes which I love, 110 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Camo vest with a green shirt, lick and fly. Yeah, 111 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm speaking of fly. She's also a pilot, really, yes, 112 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: very true. So Shamy couldn't fly up here today the 113 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: weather sicking kind of iffy. Yeah, it didn't work out, 114 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: but we will next time. Yes, thank you, Amory. So 115 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: to my left is Misty Um, which I think where's 116 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: you know? Is the leader here? From what I'm gathering 117 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: in my short amount of time that i've I've met her, 118 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: probably twenty minutes now, I've gathered she is a chicken former, 119 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: which we have in common. A she has a green thumb, 120 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: has a pretty mean garden. I hear um and you 121 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: can cook a mean biscuit, all right. Yeah. Um. She 122 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: is wearing her chicken boots with a with a striped 123 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: shirt and a cozy flannel for today. Excellent, very good intro. 124 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: Do I introduce you there, you're you're an Olympian, tell us, 125 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: give us a give us a there's you could probably 126 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: talk for an hour, a quick version of like your 127 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: career in shooting, and just kind of yeah, just tell 128 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: us a little bit about your story. So I am 129 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Daddy's little girl. He says that I'm the son he 130 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: never had. UM. So I grew up fishing and hunting 131 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: with him and shooting shotguns, and he was a competitive 132 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: shotgun shooter. So that's how I got into it. Um. 133 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: When I was eight years old, I competed in my 134 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: first competition in sporting clays, which is like a hunted 135 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: simulated game, and went to went to a shoot, fell 136 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: in love with it, and from there, when I was 137 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: fifteen years old, actually fourteen years old, I found out 138 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: that shooting was in the Olympics. So I told my dad. 139 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, shootings in Olympics, Like 140 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: we have to try because I've just been obsessed with 141 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: the Olympics since I was tiny, UM, and he was like, 142 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: all right, well let's let's give it a go. So 143 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: maybe my first team UM at fifteen traveled to Munich, Germany. 144 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: It was just a whole culture shock. I remember, you qualify. 145 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, qualifying for the Olympics is a big deal 146 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: though it is. Yeah, yeah, So in between the Olympics 147 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: we have I don't know, yeah, it's it's it's yeah, 148 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: small thing. UM. In between the Olympics we have World Cups. 149 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: UM in the in the quad before. So that's the 150 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: first team that I made was a World Cup team. 151 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: So I went to Munich, Germany, and I remember going 152 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: to this restaurant and I asked for sweet tea because 153 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: that's what I grew up. I thought every to drink 154 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: sweet tea. And the lady there's you know, the communication 155 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: barrier there that wasn't translating well, and she she brought 156 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: back some sugarcubes and hot black tea and she was 157 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: like here you go. And I was like, well, I guess, 158 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and you can have a cup of eyes like yeah. 159 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: So made that team when I was fifteen, UM, and 160 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: since then I've set national records, world records. UM. I 161 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: just became the most decorated woman for trap in u 162 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: S history and then and then went to Tokyo competed 163 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,119 Speaker 1: at Olympics and won silver metal. So sweet, Wow, that's incredible. 164 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: And so you're from. Tell us where you're from. I 165 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: am from a small town UM called Wooster, Arkansas, which 166 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: is like forty five minutes north of lit Rock. Do 167 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: in Arkansas? Where to go? So? Now I heard an 168 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: interesting story about how your dad got into well competive 169 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: competitive shooting. Will you tell me that story? Do you 170 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: know what story? I'm talking about? The very very first, 171 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: the very first time he shot competitively. So I've heard 172 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: a story of him. Some guy invited him to go 173 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: to a shoot and Austin stories better. I'm sure it was. Yeah, 174 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: this is um Wooster folklore, Okay. But the story that 175 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: I was told was that Kaylee's dad was on a 176 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: job out of state and uh, I think it was 177 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma and was just running down the highway somewhere 178 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: and saw all these signs for the shooting event and 179 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it, had a shotgun in 180 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: his truck. He dropped in said, hey, what's the shooting 181 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: event that you all have? And they said, Oh, this 182 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: is uh, um a trap competition we have this weekend. 183 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Uh it's a national qualifier, but it's also open to 184 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: the public. So uh. The story that I was told 185 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: was that he paid the fee to compete, just somebody 186 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: off the street, and that he ended up coming in 187 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: second place his first event ever. Yeah yeah, so he 188 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: well yeah, so he actually a couple of years before that, 189 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: got invited to go to a sporting clay shoot and 190 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: was had no idea what it was, and he's, I 191 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: don't know what that is. So he kind of like 192 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: blew it off in and went to that shoot. Um. 193 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I think it was in Oklahoma. They weren't. He's he's 194 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: a welder. He ends a fabrication shop. So they used 195 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: to travel all the time and go to different job sites. 196 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, so he's he's the best shot. I think 197 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: Amory can attest to this too, Tommy. So the story 198 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: was is that he just had his like hunting shotgun 199 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: and went and competed in all these like pro shooters 200 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: pretty much yeah and all. And I think it was 201 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: a trap shoot too. And you know, older trap guys 202 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: tend to have a stereotype about him. They kind of 203 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: like turned their nose up to you if you're not 204 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: somebody in there, and he was probably in Camo cross 205 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: sucks in shooting old eight seventy years something. The nicest man. 206 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: You can shoot better than your dad. Though, since he's 207 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: not here, I'm gonna say yes. Second, Okay, I figured 208 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: he could. I figured you could. Now he I cannot 209 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: shoot him in in my game just because I do 210 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: it so much, But he can still humble me anytime 211 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: he wants to. Okay, how does um, how does trap 212 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: shooting or what you do translate in the field shooting ducks? 213 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: So what I shoot comparatively? Um, it's called the International 214 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: Trap And just the short explanation of what that is. 215 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: It's an underground bunker that has fifteen trap machines in it, 216 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: and they are coming. They can go anywhere from forty 217 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: five degrees left to forty five degrees right and up 218 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: to three meters high, so they're just a widespread of 219 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: targets coming out. Um. The tricky part about him is 220 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: you don't know the direction that's going, and it's going 221 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: about seventy five. So if you've got a bird like 222 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: let's say, quell hunting alone, no quell quiet going say 223 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: about my is an hour, but you flush a covey 224 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: of quell and they get up and they're going any directions. 225 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to be on them pretty quick. 226 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: So it translates really well into like pigeon shooting or 227 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: upland hunting or anything like that. Yeah, so Amory, how 228 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: does she do in the Doug Blond pretty? Oh my gosh, 229 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: speaking of I got my first double last yeah, last Friday. Yeah, 230 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin it because I know we're 231 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: going to get around telling stories, but just speaking at that, 232 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: it was a perfect opportunity. But yeah, she knocks him down. 233 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: And on that note about the bunker trap that you do. Uh. 234 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: I was out at her place and I said, hey, 235 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I want to see how this thing works. You know, 236 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: maybe I'm feeling good enough. I've been hitting some clay targets. 237 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get up there and shoot. She goes, all right, 238 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: here we go, and I go, did you press the button? 239 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, to have come out. She said, Oh, 240 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: is that the target is so fast? Yeah, they're they're 241 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: super fast. Oh my goodness, it's insane. But yeah, she's 242 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: she's a good shot. So I will attest to that 243 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: the stuff still stand a chance. Are there any Is 244 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: there any shooting competition that would simulate something coming towards 245 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: you and down? Yeah, for sure. That's sporting plays coming 246 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: towards you. Yeah. Yeah, sporting plays has what I'm thinking. Yeah, 247 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: it has no limitation of what the target can do 248 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: and how it presents itself. So they can come at you, 249 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: then go over your head, they can cross, they can 250 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: roll on the ground, they can I mean, there's no 251 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: limit at all. It's what they can do. Mm hmm. Austin, 252 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: how many ducks have you missed this year? A lot? 253 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: Have you? Really? Yeah? So I had some issues with 254 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: my gun. Um bent barrel, not a bent barrel, but 255 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: um I had I had some work done on the 256 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: forcing cone, uh, on the really technical answer on the shotgun, 257 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: and then put a third party choke tube in there. 258 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: And I was chasing, and I suspect that there was 259 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: something wrong with it, but was also being as self 260 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: critical as one should and hesitant to instantly blame it 261 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: on the weapon. Uh. But I had not been hit anything. 262 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: And then I was chasing a cripple down and it 263 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: was it was that one of the it was three 264 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: three degrees yeah. It was too way too cold to 265 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: have a dog out there. So we were chasing down 266 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: the cripple and I was about twenty five yards away 267 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: from from the duck. Very carefully put my weapon up. Uh, 268 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: sensitive to the fact that I've been missing a lot. 269 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I pulled the trigger and the gun patterned about halfway 270 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: between me and the duck. Um. So call the folks 271 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: that worked on it. They said, we'll send you a choke. 272 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: SENDMI brand new choke, and I'm back on the board. Really, 273 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: so it was the joke messed up from the factory. No, 274 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: it just didn't interact well with aftermarket modifications to the 275 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: forcing kind and it was a really tight choke. Be honest, 276 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: is this the choke that I bought you when you 277 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: were like, Hey, while you're at SO and so, you 278 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: pick me up. You're smiling. It is the one. Yes, 279 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: it is. Did you bend it? I don't know, don't 280 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: ask me. Interesting So I wasn't trying to brib salt 281 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: in the wound. I'm just going to leave right now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 282 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Well it's just the weirdest thing because every gun is different, 283 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: and you know, you can take a hundred guns with 284 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: a hundred identical chokes and you may get fifty different 285 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: results out of it. Wow. So for the ones that 286 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: you're missing, you have to tell your daughter is picking 287 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: them up. Yes, yeah, she went on her first stuckcutt 288 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: killed her first stuck. Yeah. Hey. I learned something about 289 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: squirrel hunting two days ago when we had a real 290 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: good squirrel hunt, is that the further they are away 291 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: with a shotgun, the better chance you haven't hitting them. 292 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: And they're close and they're tough. We were, we were 293 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: knocking down some squirrels we were hunting in those arcs. 294 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: And so there was one time when three of us 295 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: were shooting at the same squirrel timbering out across a 296 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: ravine and we'd we'd ridden up on the mules and 297 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: the dogs were treated right across the ravine directly from us. 298 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't have a range rider, but I 299 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: really believe it was fifty yards. And when the dogs 300 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: are treated, we ride up, we're on deep ravine. You 301 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: couldn't just get over there real quick like. It would 302 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: probably been three or four minutes before we could have 303 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: got over there. When you get there, the squirrel breaks, 304 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: and when they break and start timbering, they're heading for 305 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: a hole, and so this is pretty much like the 306 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: moment that we have and there's three of us on 307 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: mules and we all three just like come off the 308 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: saddle boom, boom, boom, and we killed that squirrel probably 309 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: fifty yards. There's no way we would have hit it 310 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: if it had been like closer spread out. So what 311 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, awesome, is that if you'd sky 312 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: bust these ducks or you probably had a better chance 313 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: of killing something. Well you're using lead though, weren't you. Yeah, yeah, 314 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: truth comes out. Yeah, yeah, Hey, I think you need 315 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: to talk about your squirrel hunt. I will at sometimes 316 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: I've got really interesting people. Okay, okay, squirrels. You and 317 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: I went squirrel hunting last year after we went duck hunting. 318 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: That was that was an experience. That was a lot 319 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: of fun. It's squirrel hunting a thing that you had 320 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: done before, you know, not, No, it isn't, especially with dogs. 321 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here thinking I've ever been on a 322 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: legitimate squirrel hunt. No, no, I haven't. So that was 323 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: the first time. It's it's a lot of fun. It's 324 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: good when it's when it's good hunting and it was 325 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the other day we had a we had a great 326 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: hunt on public land in Arkansas, state owned public land. 327 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: Um amazing, Austin, Look, we have a conflict. I want 328 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: more people to get out twelve miles and I mean 329 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: part of squirrel On success is just it's just, uh, 330 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: if you if you stay out there all day long, 331 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: you're just gonna kill stuff as opposed to on a 332 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: small little hunt. Hey, I mentioned a state owned w 333 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: A in this episode. Were you happy about that? I 334 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: was very happy, Were you really? I was also nic surprised. Hey, 335 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: I had another story you'll know that they cut out 336 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: because it was too it told too many details where 337 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: people get uh, people get upset with me about that 338 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. That's the reason I'll put that disclaimer 339 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: in the podcast. All right, well you can bleep it out. 340 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: And I saw a few on that what's that about? 341 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Where I was hunting that story that I told, I 342 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: saw a few, Yeah, people got upset. He saw a 343 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: few coming. Yeah, And I tried to discourage See, I 344 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: was trying to keep Austin in mind by promoting the 345 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: w A. But then I was like, don't come here. 346 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to explore go somewhere else. We confirmed 347 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: we killed every squirrel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um. So do 348 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: you have any questions for Kayleie ms Nucombe? Well, I'm 349 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: just do you plan on competing again? So I yes, 350 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: I do. I'm going to try for again. Okay. And 351 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: is there a point in your sport where people age 352 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: out of it? Question? That is a really good question. 353 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: So shooting is as good as your eyes are. There's 354 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: not really a It's not a super athletic sport. Um. 355 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: So as long as you can see the target, you're 356 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: you're pretty competitive. I compete against girls who are in 357 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: their fifties for sure, So it's the younger ones definitely 358 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: have a little advantage there, but there's not really a 359 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: cap out age like geno pastics or something like that. Okay, 360 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. What about hearing? Shooting as much as 361 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: you do, even with your protection, do you think you're 362 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: hearing is compromised anyway? I'm sure over the years, because 363 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: I've shot for twenty one years now, so just in 364 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: almost every day, and if it's not competing I'm hunting 365 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm sure it's taking a toll on that. 366 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: But we there's technology is so awesome now I have 367 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: digital ear plugs that like cancel out the shot and 368 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: just I mean, I mean, so I wish I would 369 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: have started on that because they'd probably be a lot 370 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: better than what they are now. But it's it's as 371 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: little as it can be. Yeah, Man, hearing is a 372 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: bummer for me. I the other day we shot a 373 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: lot squirrel hunting, and I was wearing just like at 374 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: the first half of the day, I was wearing just 375 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: standard a little squishy ear plugs, you know. And man, 376 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: by the second half the day, I was wearing full 377 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: ear muffs like you know, which is a handful to 378 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: keep up with when you're shooting quick and not knowing 379 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: where your shoot. But man, I came home that night 380 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: and I was I couldn't hardly sleep. He's got I 381 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: was gonna say, when you asked her if her hearing 382 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: was impacted, we should probably ask her spouse, because I 383 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: know for me, you have to I have to sit 384 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: at a certain spot in a room. So like if 385 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna whisper, if we're going to a meeting and 386 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: we know we're gonna whisper, Yeah, I do have a 387 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: like a for real bad here. That's that's my dad, 388 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: because I mean he grew up in the in the 389 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: generation where you would just go out and hunt. There 390 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: was no ear protection. So I joke all the time. 391 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: He'll say what or hunt, and I'm like, a great, 392 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: I can't hear a thing. Yeah, I got a question? 393 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: What what? I got two questions? What's your favorite thing 394 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: to hunt? My favorite thing to hunt is ducks? And 395 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: I used to it used to be just purely on 396 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: on killing the ducks, but now it's more of the 397 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: environment and who I'm with and watching my dog's Wait. Sure, 398 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: that's that's the age that comes along with it. So 399 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Would you rather shoot a 400 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: perfect score on the trap range or get a limited ducks? 401 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: Which would be your favorite? That's hard they're bringing the 402 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: today is the range at the Olympics? This in context? 403 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: Is this like an important every day I think that 404 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 1: I think the Olympics would probably trump everything. But just 405 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: in a regular competition, I'm gonna go ducks. Yeah, I'm 406 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna go ducks. Yes, ducks good in Arkansas. In Arkansas 407 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: for sure, that hunting in Arkansas. Hey. As So last 408 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: year we did a big we did a I think 409 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: a three part Burgary series on the g t R 410 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: the Green Timber Reservoir situation. Can you give us an 411 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: update on that, Austin and and fill in people who 412 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't even know what that means or kind of just 413 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: a short version of it. Yeah. So one of the 414 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: many things that made Arkansas duck hunting what it is 415 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: and nationally famous is our green tree reservoirs, which are 416 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: um household names around the state like by me to 417 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: Wildlife Management Area, Hurricane Lake Wildlife Managion Area, Dave Donaldson, 418 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: Black River Wildlife Manasaion Area, by a to view um. 419 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: And they're they're natural low points, they're they're all river bottoms. 420 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Um that there's naturally retain water, and we have put 421 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: artificial infrastructure up since the nineteen fifties to hold that 422 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: water there to not only provide um lots and lots 423 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: of waterfowl habitat, but also public duck hunting opportunity. So 424 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: you so you can go in some of these g trs. 425 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: I might be going to one tomorrow, uh, and you 426 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: can hunt public land in the timber well. UM. We 427 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: did not know near as much as we know now 428 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: about what red oak dormancy looks like. Uh, and as 429 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: it turns out we were artificially flooding uh these red 430 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: oak dominant uh G t rs for decades and we 431 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: were doing it too early. UM. And so you take 432 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: that combined with the fact that our infrastructure is all 433 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: sixty to seventy years old, and the fact that we're 434 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: just seeing larger and more frequent major rain events, and 435 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: we ever have we have a a really really serious 436 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: problem in those green Shoe reservoirs with the forest health. 437 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean oaks are dying, Yes, oaks are falling over. 438 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 1: And it's not something like a food plot where all right, 439 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: if we lose a food plot this year, we'll just 440 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: replay it next year, right, I mean these are these 441 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: are eighty year old red oaks that will take eight 442 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: eighty years to get back. So last year, UH, we 443 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: took a big, a big first step forward UH and 444 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: being more proactive with how we manage water levels. I mean, 445 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: we know exactly what to do on the natural resources side, 446 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: but conservation always involves natural resources and people. And so 447 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: we decided, uh to be more proactive with how we're 448 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: managing water levels on these green tree reservoirs. And we 449 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: also kicked off some major renovations at Hurricane Lake Wildlife 450 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: Management Area and Biodebut UM Hurricane Lake, we finished the 451 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: first phase on budget and ahead of schedule last year. 452 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: So in calendar year twenty two, we we were able 453 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: to more We were able to pass more water out 454 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: of Hurricane Lake Wildlife Management Area than we ever have 455 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: and off of the roots of these trees. Yeah, because 456 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: what happens is we can get the water off of them, 457 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: but then once the spring rains hit, it often won't 458 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: let up until Junior July. And now it's summertime. These 459 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: trees have come out of dormancy and they got standing 460 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: water on them. Uh. And that's what's the tree killer 461 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: right there. So so our goal as we renovate these 462 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: g trs is to drain water as quickly as possible. Uh. 463 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: And we we we completed the first phase at Hurricane 464 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: and saw a really good results from it this year. 465 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: So you got some water off. Yeah, We're we're underway 466 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: with the second phase. UM Earl bus By Deview Wildlife 467 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: Engineer is going really well too. So Fingers Crossed by 468 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: the end of of calendar year twenty three will have 469 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: two completed green tree reservoirs and UH one more major 470 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: one launched and so where And that might not seem 471 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: like a problem for somebody she didn't understand the system 472 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: of how this works. But people you might be like, well, sure, 473 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: drain the water off the timber, no big deal. What 474 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: that means is that it's taken away at times of 475 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: the year duck hunting opportunity because you gotta have flooded 476 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: timber ducks. And so that's where the conflict people comes in, 477 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, there's people that have hunted 478 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: these places and had predictable water access on November fift 479 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: every single year, unnaturally so induced by humans. And now 480 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: we're saying, hey, we didn't realize that trees are what's 481 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: what's the term you used when when something flew Well, 482 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: you know what I was thinking was a like a 483 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: like a long term response to something. Um, you use 484 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: a great term last year. Um. Basically, you can start 485 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: doing something to a tree today and you may not 486 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: know it's effect until fifty years from Oh yeah. That 487 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: essentially they're lagging consequences. Yeah right, I mean we're not 488 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: going to see the consequence of what we did in 489 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: two thousand until two. That's why it makes it such 490 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: a complicated and interesting human thing because there's all these 491 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: guys that hunted their whole life. They just thought this 492 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: was normal, and then all of a sudden there's no 493 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: water in their duck hole and opening day and they 494 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: get mad at you know, the powers. Yeah and so 495 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: and that's but that's my education and us just saying, hey, 496 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: this is what we gotta do to save this, even 497 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: for future generation. He asked a question as someone like 498 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: that would be in that boat. Does it do anything 499 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: for the I mean, if I did last year I did? Um? 500 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Does it do anything for the Is it harmful for 501 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: the ducks like to because they're predictably coming in? No. Well, 502 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering like if what we're doing now the 503 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: management does do they just love? Do they just go 504 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: somewhere else? Um? So there is a piece of that 505 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: that that we know that just looking Arkansas wide, we 506 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: are already at a shortage of winning waterfowl habitat um. 507 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: So are we making it? You know? Are we compounding 508 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: that um by artificially holding water later and later? I 509 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: think we are to a degree today, yes, But you know, um, 510 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: by me, there's just one wildlife managine area and it's 511 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: thirty three thousand acres, So we have to take kind 512 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: of the longer term approach of if we lose that 513 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: thirty three acre resource, I mean, that's what we call 514 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: anchor habitat. That is going to have a dramatic effect 515 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: on everybody else around it too. So it is it's 516 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: very much not just from the perspective of the duck 517 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: hunters or the red oaks or the ducks, all the 518 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: way around. It is a short term sacrifice for a 519 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: long term reward. If BioMed is not good, it it 520 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: affects us really. So in uh, you know, going back 521 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: to this whole big picture thing, the state of Arkansas 522 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: privately owned. So I know, in all this process, I've 523 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: heard from a lot of private landowners saying, wow, we've 524 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: been putting our boards in October. You know, we're starting 525 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: to see some die back in our red oak trees too. 526 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: So maybe this is something that we need to go 527 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: back and reevaluate. And the message is starting to catch 528 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: on and get a bigger picture. We can't just focus 529 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: on just our wildlife management areas, but these other ones. Uh, 530 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: but these private lands as well. Yeah, And one of 531 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: the things that you said last year Clay in that 532 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: podcast series that that I've talked a lot about since 533 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: is if you go anywhere in the United States and 534 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: you find a critter that is treasured, it will thrive 535 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: and because people, because people do something for it. And 536 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: from that perspective, I think if you look at the 537 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: progress that the agency has had the past year, the 538 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: public meetings we had, I think our Kansas deserve a 539 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: whole lot of credit because, uh, we ran four public 540 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: meetings on it um and we really haven't stopped talking 541 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: about at the past eighteen months or so, and the 542 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: feedback from the public's been tremendous um and a lot 543 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: of participations, a lot of participation, a lot of very 544 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: interested people that don't like it, but they get it. 545 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: And I think our Kansas deserve a whole uh a 546 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: whole lot of credit for for understanding the short term 547 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: sacrifice that we're gonna have to make to keep water foul. 548 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: What it is as a body of commissioner is too. 549 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, this is your first year as directors 550 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: when we put this through and then as a body 551 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: of commissioners went okay, one of our main revenue streams 552 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,239 Speaker 1: as license sales right now we're trying to get more 553 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: people into the sport of hunting, but we have this 554 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: and you know, we we're not gonna have water at sometimes, 555 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: but then we are. But we have to look at 556 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: the big picture and down the road and know that 557 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: our ang goal is to make these areas better for 558 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: our future so that we can retain hunters, have quality 559 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 1: waterfol hunts in the state of Arkansas. So it all 560 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: goes to the future. I read when I was in 561 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: college there was a I remember in one of my classes, 562 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: one of my government classes, we talked about the role 563 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: of government is really to think fifty years ahead at least. 564 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: And that's the part that it gets really tough, because 565 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: if you're doing if government is doing this job, it's 566 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: it's thinking about not just the current and the things 567 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: they're having right now, but thinking fifty years ahead, like 568 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: how will will we have these animals for our grandkids 569 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: and are our great grandkids? But people have to sacrifice 570 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: now for that to happen, and they have to be 571 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: willing to pay some costs right now for benefits that 572 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: they'll never they'll never receive, And yeah, this is this 573 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: is societal challenge. But it sounds like Arkansas. And that's 574 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: the way that I ended all of our public meetings 575 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: last year. Where do we want to tell our grandkids 576 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: what by me to was like? Or do we want 577 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: to hear them tell us what it was like? Yeah, yeah, 578 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: that's good. Could always listen to the Burgarase podcast here 579 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Brent Reeves tell what it used to be like. Ba 580 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: uh no, that's good. That's a good up. That that 581 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: was a that That series for me educated me from 582 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: like zero to you know, understanding what was going on 583 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: over there because it's man. The problem with all this 584 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: stuff is it's so there's so many complexities, from biological 585 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: stuff to human stuff, to social stuff two just communication stuff, 586 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: like they all a lot of the problems that not 587 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: just water, not just wildlife managers are facing, but very 588 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: complex issues and we want something like easy and quick 589 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, I just doesn't work like that, Amory. Have 590 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: you had a good waterfowl season so far? I have 591 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: had a good waterfowl season. It's been good. Yeah. I 592 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: killed killed a good deer too this year. Was really 593 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: happy about that. Yeah, how big is a good deer? Uh? 594 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Well it was a nine point I didn't score because 595 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: you weren't there. But scored pretty good. Amory's husband's here 596 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: studio audience. That's a good deer, it is, I was. 597 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: I was really pleased with it. Now I did attempt 598 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: to do some bow hunting, have yet to harvest one 599 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: with my bow, but working on that. But back to 600 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: duck hunting, it's been great. Had some had some really 601 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: great hunts where we got our limits, had some really 602 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: great hunts where we didn't get our limits. It's all 603 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: about the fellowship. We talked about that last week, the 604 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: people that you get to make these memories with that. 605 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: Has the migration in Arkansas been normal or you know, 606 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm amazed at the duck counts stuff? I got email 607 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: from It was on an email chain, I think from 608 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: one of the biologist waterfowl biologists and you're a real 609 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: duck hunter. Yeah, oh I'm big and uh it was 610 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: it was talking about duck numbers in the state, like, 611 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: is that has it been pretty normal this year? Good? 612 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: Right now? It's been. It's really good. Yeah, we're still 613 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: we're below the long term average, UM, but I think 614 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: we're up like double digits from two thousand and eighteen levels. 615 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: It amazes me that you can count ducks with any 616 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: kind of any sense of like it being accurate. I 617 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: still don't understand it. They got it down to an 618 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: art though. I'm gonna go on Thursday, you're gonna fly 619 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: with them. So they missy, they they fly. Let me 620 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: tell you, I know he's change the email chain now. 621 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: They basically fly grids over areas of like predictable duck habitat, 622 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: and they get an estimation of numbers, just like humans 623 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: and airplanes, like guessing how many ducks there are, And 624 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: then they expound the area that they flew and they go, okay, 625 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: well there's a hundred times more land than that with 626 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: equivalent habitat in Arkansas. So they take what they actually 627 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: saw and you know, multiply it out and get an 628 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: estimation for how many ducks are here. Is That's that's 629 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'll report back checking. That's yeah, and so 630 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: so is it weekly? No, we do one in December, 631 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: one in January, and then I think one after the 632 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: season closes, isn't there right? That is right? Yeah, they 633 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: do the postseason fallout, which post season having that habitat 634 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: for the ducks too is incredibly important when they're coming back, well, 635 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: when they're you know, maybe not coming back, but just 636 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: they're about to go back exactly. It's like a buck 637 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: right after the rut, Like they gotta rest up. They 638 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: gotta put some pounds on because they were flying, you know, 639 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: with the giest stream coming down and there they're flying 640 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: into going back up. That's a long way. That's why 641 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: they need those acorns, man. Man. I I hunted in 642 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 1: the Delta a couple of weeks ago for a week, 643 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: and uh, I was keyed in on the the big acorns. Yeah, 644 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: there were a lot of them, and then there was 645 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: quite a few of the smaller red oaks like those. Yeah. 646 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: I was gathering them up and trying to hand feed 647 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: him to all the mallards in the place that we could. 648 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I wasn't the ones in your yard. Those 649 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: are chickens, clay Man. I did see some ducks though, 650 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Oh man, did I see some ducks. I really did. 651 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: It was pretty incredible. Actually, I two or three evenings 652 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: of bow hunting. We were we were real close to 653 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: some water, and uh it was incredible, man, I mean 654 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: mallard ducks. We watched them all day. I mean we saw, Yeah, 655 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: there were no deer down there, not a single deer 656 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: but before duck hunting, though, before you became a duck 657 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: hunter last year, last year, would you thought anything that, really, 658 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: there's some ducks over there or whatever. I just wouldn't 659 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: have now I would have been keating enough on in 660 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: the hunting space to value a duck. I mean just 661 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: been like, this is probably pretty cool. But without a 662 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: knowledge base, which I got last year, I really know 663 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: the answers. No, I mean the ducks were uh yeah, 664 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: making all kind of calls. I was thinking about calling. 665 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: I was saying, I was watching how they were, like 666 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: where they would be in the sky and then where 667 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: they would land and how they would land, and I 668 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: was thinking about the wind. And basically they didn't do 669 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: anything y'all to mean they would but um yeah, duck hunters, 670 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they know much about ducks. But 671 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I was supposed to get a big laugh. 672 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: Um have you have you duck hunted a lot this year? Yeah? Yeah? 673 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: And um Aiden, we took him, you know, he's from California, 674 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: take him on his first duck hint. And we went 675 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: down to um Bull Sprig, which is like a really 676 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: nice hunting club down in Stuck Guard and it's flooded, timber, 677 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: and just like the when you think of Arkansas duck hunting, 678 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: it's like that's the hunt. And I was trying the 679 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: whole time. I was like trying to explain or put 680 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: into context to him what this hunt was like. Like 681 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: you you were starting off at the top, and then 682 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back home, and I'll humble, like, I'll 683 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: humble you a little bit what real duck huntings like. 684 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: But now we've been, we've been quite a few times. 685 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: Am I really enjoy working my dogs. I've got a 686 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: dog that's pretty much college education. I have a black Lab, 687 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: have a yellow Lab, and I have a little English 688 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: cocker that's pretty fun to duck huntly retriever. Yeah, he's 689 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: he's between the black and the yellow lab. Is the 690 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: black one better? So she has more drive, I will say, 691 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: But she tore her a c l two years ago, 692 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: so she's just I am hesitant to take her on 693 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: places I don't know, just because she's got to jump 694 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: off and she's got climb. I don't know what the 695 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: setting is for her. But the yellow lab, he's like said, 696 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: he's got college education. He'll call the duck in go 697 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: get it. He's a good dog. Yeah, the black one 698 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: is really better. I don't think so. I don't know. 699 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 1: That's like an old till really that from what I've heard, 700 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: that's like what labs started as. And then you know, 701 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: the yellows came along, and the yellows have been here 702 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: for so long now they're equivalent to the blacks. And 703 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: then the chocolate is just good luck with him because 704 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: they're still not good. Yeah, and then you've got silvers 705 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: and they're just a whole another I don't consider that 706 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: a real lab. Yeah, sorry, I just own't. It's pretty 707 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: we're going that far pretty, but well, no, I mean 708 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: black chocolate labs. That's that's the three. Hey, you gotta 709 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: be passionate and have an opinion about stuff. I like this, 710 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: like chocolate labs out. I would say chocolates have another 711 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: fifty years before they and yellow you straight up fast? 712 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: Favorite dog? Like, what what's your favorite dog? I want 713 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: to hear about your favorite squirrel dog? Careful? Oh yeah, 714 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: I think it's the other one into this. This is 715 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: too treacherous a territory. I like a fight. There's lots 716 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: of dogs a tree squirrel. There's there's a ton of 717 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: different kind of dogs tree squirrel. Um. I like the 718 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: little fist just because they're a little in fun and 719 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: they're very smart, use their ears, eyes and nose. I 720 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: think everyone needs a fist in their life. That's that's 721 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: like my life philosophy. Now, Britt, would you said a 722 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: black lab was the way to go? That's all? All 723 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: of mine were always black? Yeah, I had one chocolate 724 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: for a month. A month didn't work out? I did you? 725 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: How old is it? Seven months? Seven months? When's he? Is? 726 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: He at the trainer? Now? She she? Uh? So she 727 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: This is a long story. She's a great dog. Uh. 728 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: She might be at risk for an a C L 729 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: tear yea, So how can you tell? Uh? I can't tell, 730 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: but the vets cam uh. And so that's that's kind 731 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: of what we're waiting to see. We might we might 732 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: let her get a little bit older and before you 733 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: invest a lot in Yeah really yeah, but she she's 734 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: a great dog. Now y'all have a older dog, Baron? Yeah, 735 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: black lab. I've always had black lass black ones. Uh. 736 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 1: Baron is six about to be seven? Is Baron named 737 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: after a Barren airplane? Yes, that's awesome. I got my 738 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: pilot's license back in. I guess it's two thousand sixteen. 739 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to I'm not current anymore, 740 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: sitting here, Yeah, yeah, I'm sitting here Stable day Yeah. Yeah. 741 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: A studio audience today too, do Yeah. Joe Dramas is here, 742 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: Joe Hight and then Aiden with you hating what's your 743 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: last name? Conn Aid Colin? Yeah, live studio audience pretty 744 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: pretty special, which they would encourage us a little more 745 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: because you'll give up plause. Yeah, we've not laughed at 746 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: a couple of show. So if you could feel the 747 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: I think I would help me out. Joke he's wearing 748 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: all his bear grease skin. He's got an acorn shirt on. 749 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: I like that he gets it. It's a vibe. Hey, 750 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: is there a difference between boy and girl dogs? Because 751 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: we got a lot difference in terms of quality of hunters. 752 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: Because Clay's best, best dog, best sound. It has been 753 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: a girl. You've got a girl. I've always had boy dogs. Okay, 754 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: so there's no distinction in terms there is. Okay, every 755 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: big game hunter or squirrel dog man that I've ever 756 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: met didn't want a male dog. I mean, you know, 757 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: in general, females are females because your squirrel dog, the 758 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: girl in your opinion, would be better. We can call it. 759 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: There's lots of different names we could call them other 760 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: than girl dogs. I prefer female or JIP. I'll just 761 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: be honest. JIP does not sound like enough crazy, just 762 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: not telling something i'd want to be my experience, every 763 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: female dog got that's just been so sweet and that 764 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: ain't broke picks it. Um, well let's talk. Let's talk 765 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: some duck hunting, duck hunting, duck hunting stories. What was 766 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: your what was your Austin, what was your favorite story 767 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 1: that you heard on the podcast? So we're well now 768 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: transition into duck hunting stories, and then I want to 769 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: hear you three your favorite your favorite story but from 770 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: the podcast, like or did anything stand out to you? 771 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: Did you hear something that was like yeah, identify with 772 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 1: that or that was cool or yeah? I would say 773 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: two of the stories were noteworthy. Um in my mind. 774 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: The first was is it your your friend Scott from Jacksonville? Yeah, 775 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: Scott Harness. Yeah. So he mentioned having that super interested 776 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: friend that wanted to try to duck hunt and he 777 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: was very pessimistic about their likelihood for a successful hunt. 778 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: Always happened, and I've that that's kind of the season 779 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: of duck hunting that I'm in right now, where I 780 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: care less about going to shoot four mallards as I 781 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: do getting out there with new people, uh, showing them 782 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: what duck hunts all about. And one of the best hunts, 783 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: memory wise, that I ever had was one of those 784 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: where I had somebody that said they really wanted to go, 785 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: and they had been asking me for months about it, 786 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: and I said, yes, we're gonna go, and in the 787 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: back of my mind, I knew we weren't gonna kill 788 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: a thing, uh, and we did. And then the other 789 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: story that I thought was just uh fantastic was Brent's 790 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: uh talking about Buckingham Flats, um and right. And I 791 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 1: was talking to somebody the other day that had never 792 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: duck hunted what it's like when a big group of 793 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: mallards comes in And this is before the podcast came out, 794 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: and you said it was like rolling out of carpet. Brent. 795 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: The analogy that I used was it's like you're standing 796 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: at the bottom of a staircase and someone rolls out 797 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: of carpet and it just keeps coming and keeps coming 798 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: and keeps coming and the duckster just right wave after 799 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: a way of getting down. Yeah, chill bumps on my 800 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: arm right now just thinking about it. And I never 801 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: think about that story that it doesn't happen. It's so weird. 802 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 1: It was absolutely it was a not a life changing event. 803 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like seeing my children born or anything, 804 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: but it was like the least favorite kid was like 805 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: seeing the least favorite it. So you've seen that a 806 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: couple of times. Just had like like like you think 807 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: five hundred ducks, thousand ducks, two hundred ducks, I'd probay 808 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 1: say between three fifty. It's just um between the sheer 809 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: volume of ducks around you that you feel like you 810 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: can't even turn your head and uh, just the awe 811 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: of it. You almost want to put your gun down. 812 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: I've done it and just like take it all in 813 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: because you know that it's fleeting and and and it'll 814 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: end mm hmm. Put you cool. It makes you feel 815 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: like the first time I saw and heard and looked 816 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: at an elk buglin in a place where and we 817 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: didn't even kill this. It was a huge elk, but 818 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: he's like, man, should I don't know if I'm worthy 819 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 1: of being Yeah, in the presence of watching this take place, 820 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: it'll make you feel like like that. It did me. Yeah, Amory, 821 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: which of those stories stood at you? Do you like 822 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: any of them? Well, ditto what Austin just said on 823 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: both of those stories. But I'm going to tell you 824 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: the one that I was just flabbergasted by. And really 825 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there counting my blessings, thinking, Wow, I've 826 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: never had something that scary happened to me knock on wood. 827 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 1: But the first off, the story about Jimbo out there, 828 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean in him talking about covering up his face 829 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: and he's afraid to take his hands down because he's 830 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: afraid about what what he's going to see. Um, I 831 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: can't imagine being in that situation and knowing Jimbo when 832 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: he said he just kept as cool. He said, Hey, 833 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get in the boat head back to the truck, 834 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: and you know, go um that. I couldn't believe that 835 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: he held it together to do that, because I think 836 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: I think I would have lost my mind. I think 837 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: anyone I know would have lost their mind if some 838 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: would have been shooting at them. So, uh, that really 839 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: stood out to me, and oh, my gosh, the guy 840 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: in the houseboat who fell fell off into Yes, yeah, 841 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: I mean I've been you know, baptized in the in 842 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: the duck water before like that, Oh my goodness, I know. 843 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: And him talking about those two two boys that died, 844 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: that was that was just nuts. Oh my goodness. So 845 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: those those stood out to me because that was that 846 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: was just insane. Yeah, Jim's story, I thought you did 847 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: a good job of telling the story, like just saying, 848 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: like I'm sitting there like looking at him, like did 849 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: you get shot in the face? Yeah? And then he 850 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: and then he said he put his hands down and 851 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: and he wasn't shot. But man, you know, not being 852 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: uh exposed a lot of duck hunting last year when 853 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: I was hunting, man anything. And it's the same way 854 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 1: with squirrel hunting with four or five people. Man, when 855 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: you got that many people with guns with moving targets, 856 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: like gun safety is a big deal, big deal. Yeah, 857 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: you you got to and you gotta make sure everybody 858 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: around he does too, you know. Like so Bear and 859 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: his buddies are starting to do some squirrel hunting and 860 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: stuff on their own, and they even went duck hunting 861 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: on their own the other day. And they I told 862 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 1: Bear and one of the other leaders of the crew, 863 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you guys have got to absolutely like 864 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: cram it down these other guy's throats about gun safety. 865 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: And I have a little spill I do where I 866 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: grab an empty shotgun and and give them every possible 867 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 1: way that you could point that gun at your buddy 868 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: and not realize you did. You know, like when you 869 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: pull your gun down and drop it to your waist 870 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: and then turn around and point at everyone in the 871 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: in the in the hole, and and and then you know, 872 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: talking about shooting up, how when you're shooting up at 873 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: a squirrel or something, you often come down with a 874 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: gun off safety and loaded, and then you know where's 875 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: everybody else at But anyway, yeah, I think about that 876 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: all the time. Well, I think the one that creeps 877 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: up on people is when a dog is out there 878 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: working you put your gun on the tree because the 879 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: ducks come in. Everybody shoots, and then there's a cripple 880 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: or and and people start shooting at the cripple and 881 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: the duck dog takes off and then get back quick. Yeah, 882 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: we're all animal lovers here when it comes to our pups. 883 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: That's probably some of my greatest memories on the duck 884 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: story part, uh, hunting with my dogs over the years. 885 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: I know, Kayleie, you mentioned that when that comes to mind, 886 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 1: I had a dog, his name was Boomer, another black 887 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: lap and uh, he had throat cancer, and you know, 888 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: we knew we only had a little bit of time 889 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: left with them. And Joe and I were dating at 890 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: the time, and Joe was really touched this dog too. 891 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean we we loved him to death. And we said, okay, 892 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: we can't take him out in the morning. He didn't 893 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: have the energy, but we want to take him on 894 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: one more hunt. And we go out there in the afternoon. 895 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: It warmed up a little bit, nothing flying. Joe and 896 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: are just sitting there. I have a picture of Joe 897 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: with his arm around him in the duck blind and 898 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: they're just sitting there looking at the sky, just having 899 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: a good time. I'm sitting there thinking this is a memory. 900 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: You know, He's not going to get his last duck probably, 901 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: but at least we got to go out here with him. 902 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: But Joe ended up killing one mallard and Boomer went 903 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: out and got it and brought it back last time, 904 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: last time, last retree. It was pretty cool, pretty special cool. Yeah, Um, 905 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: I probably should have had you tell your favorite story 906 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: while you were telling which story you liked. Usually, this 907 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: is what we do, Kall. I asked people what part 908 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: of the podcast they like. Did one of those stories 909 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,399 Speaker 1: stand out to you? I would say all of them 910 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: that they mentioned, but the one that stood out to 911 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: me most was um Jimbo. And it relates back to 912 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: anybody that comes to our shooting lodger my shooting lodge. 913 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: Gun safety is the first thing that we teach. And 914 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: I have a ton of people that come to get 915 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: better at duck hunting and I always tell them before 916 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 1: they leave, like gun say, gun knowledge is gun safety, right, 917 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: So knowing where your gun is pointed at, knowing how 918 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: that gun operates, knowing where your safety is at, knowing 919 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: your environment that you're in. Who's got the dog? Is 920 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: the dog working? You know? Um? And it just brought 921 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: back those I've never been in that situation, but it 922 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,320 Speaker 1: brought back those teaching moments that I've had for people, 923 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 1: because you can never be too safe when you're hunting, 924 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 1: especially with a bunch of people, or especially with somebody 925 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: who's never been before. They don't they don't know any better. 926 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: They could just be sitting here talking to you thinking 927 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: everything safe, but it's pointed ride at Misty or you know. 928 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: It's just that really stood out to me, and it's 929 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: it's one of the things that I stress every single 930 00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: shooting lesson that I do. Yeah, um, hey be or 931 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: we leave, you'll help me. Remember, we need Kaylee to 932 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: tell us about her her lodge and what she's doing. 933 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,439 Speaker 1: But tell me your we'll go back this direction. Tell 934 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: me your well, Brent, what was your favorite hold on Kaylee? Brent? 935 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 1: Which one of those was your favorite one? Let me 936 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 1: tell mine? Okay, great, thanks Brent. My favorite one was 937 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,720 Speaker 1: I like the duck retrieve story that Jim bow Yeah, yeah, 938 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: that was Yeah. I just like the way he told 939 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: it to I like, I just like hearing Jim ron 940 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: Quest talk. Which one sit out to you? Brent? Oh, 941 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: let's see. I like the p ro story because I 942 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: have a p row and really about the only difference 943 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: in a piro on the submarines the way you spell it, 944 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: they're both gonna wind up on the bottom before it's over. Yeah, 945 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 1: but they are handed when you can keep water out 946 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: of Yeah, that was a good story. But the motor 947 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: going around the circles, the direct draft thing. Yeah, and 948 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: sharing a motor in a pin come home, that's a 949 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: rookie mistake. You got to toe a pocket full of 950 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: a little Jim since he was nineteen years old, I know, 951 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: but you gotta, you gotta. I could talk Jim. Jim 952 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: was such a neat guy, like he didn't know. I 953 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 1: don't think he's ever listened to a podcast before. He 954 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't have known anything about this podcast. And we just 955 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 1: showed up at his office and I just said, tell 956 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 1: me your favorite duck story and he just started talking 957 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: and he told me like three all in a row. 958 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: And I trimmed him up. But he was a neat well. 959 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: If I could, if I could add one other thing, 960 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: it was the stuff about Mr Alvin. Yeah, yeah, I 961 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,760 Speaker 1: figured you're even get in that. Yeah. Mr Alvin Taylor 962 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: and I were very close friends. And uh, I was 963 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: talking to Amy on the way up here today and 964 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: I said, I'm coming what. I told her what we 965 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: were doing, and I asked her, Amy's my oldest daughter. 966 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: She's thirty four now, and I asked her, no, thirty one? 967 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: And I asked her about Mr Alvin and she said, oh, Dad, 968 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: I have such fine memories. She was probably six five 969 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: or six of just sitting on a stool in there 970 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,919 Speaker 1: in his shot while me and Mr Mr Alvin worked 971 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: on duck calls. And she says she could smell the 972 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: wood when he was turning the wood, cocabola and stuff. 973 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: But he was he was a he was a pretty 974 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: cool cat. Pick up that duck call, Austin, would you 975 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: have known the name Alvin Taylor? Yeah, so that's pretty 976 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 1: so this one to talk to him about the what 977 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: you told me about the shape of that, Oh the shape. 978 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: He's got an acrylic duck call, which I would have. Yeah, 979 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: it looks just like he was a plastic I remember 980 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: going in there. This is the first call I ever 981 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: got from him, and he was looking at he said, 982 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: what is that call? Right there? He says, you do 983 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: you know how to hold a blow a duck call? 984 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: Like yesterday? I know how? He said, Well, if you 985 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: were going to show somebody, what's the best way you 986 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 1: could tell him how to hold this duck call? Wait, 987 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: the way you put it up to your mouth and 988 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: blow on it? And I said, I don't know. He said, well, 989 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: look at it now, so it looks like a coke 990 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: bottle track. He said, that's the way, so when you 991 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: take a sip out of a coke bottle, that's the 992 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: way you put air. But he it looks like he 993 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: made that. I mean, not all duck calls look quite 994 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: as much like a coke bottle as that, but that's correct. 995 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: But that's where that's what he was after when he 996 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: made this design right here, looks like a coke bottle. 997 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: It looks like the top of a coke bottle. And 998 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: that's why you put the way you would sit out 999 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: of a coke bottles the way you put air into it. Yeah, 1000 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: that's cool. Yeah. So he's got three alban They even 1001 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,479 Speaker 1: got his name on him. They say Alvin Taylor four. Yep. 1002 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: Mr Alvant signed up. I've got that's just a few 1003 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: that I brought up here, but I've got several of them. 1004 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: They're all really special. Let's it's a pretty good pile 1005 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: of money later right there. This calls are expensive. I've 1006 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 1: seen the money bay before. Yeah, six seven, eight hundred bucks. Yeah, 1007 00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool? Cool cool? Um, kay, favorite duck story just 1008 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: of your your stores. So I have a nickname when 1009 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 1: Ore in our little duck hunting community and it's called 1010 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: beaver run. So we um just like Amory here, imiliar 1011 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 1: with the Baptism duck hunting. So every year I kind 1012 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: of have to. But this is just like an ongoing 1013 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: memory because it happens every year at least four or 1014 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: five times. So where we hunt is flooded Cyprus, and 1015 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: it's behind our house and they're just beaver runs everywhere. 1016 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,959 Speaker 1: And for the longest time, I was the duck dog. 1017 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: So my dad and all his buddies would kill them 1018 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: and they'd go, they said, Kaylee, they decided go out there, 1019 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: and I'd go get the duck and bring it back. 1020 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: And every time I would find a beaver run and 1021 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: just there I went and it would just be up 1022 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: to my up to my chest, and I'd be soaking 1023 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: wet and freezing, and it was just miserable. It went 1024 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: on for years. So I was like, I'm tired of this. 1025 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a dog. So I got my first 1026 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: dog about four years ago, Max the Yell, a lab, 1027 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: and I thought, finally like I don't have to go 1028 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: out there and the beaver runs and in and fall under. 1029 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: So I get this dog, send him to college. He 1030 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 1: gets all educated. He's supposed to be great. You know, 1031 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: this this new best thing. Bring him on his first 1032 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: duck hunt. And I'm trying to set up his stand 1033 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: in the tree, and I swear, if it's not a 1034 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: two ft radius that I fall four times because the 1035 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: dog and it just it just continues to happen. So 1036 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: it's an ongoing memory that still falling down. And yeah, 1037 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: so um and then I would say, my my best 1038 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: memory with duck hunting is my very first duck kind 1039 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: of went on with my dad, my grandpa and him 1040 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 1: built this duck blind out behind our house, and I 1041 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: just begged and begged and begged to go with him 1042 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: for for years. He's finally like, all right, you're you 1043 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: can hold a gun, You're old enough, let's go. And 1044 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: he had bought me for Christmas duck house shoes. They 1045 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: had a little they were Mallard how shoes. They had 1046 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: a little duck on them, and I was just obsessed 1047 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 1: with them, and I thought, that's what you should wear 1048 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: in the duck blind. It was it was freezing cold. 1049 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: It was probably twenty degrees outside, which is cold for 1050 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: a kid. And I have these Mallard house shoes on 1051 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in the duck bline and it's just 1052 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean, ducks are everywhere, which is it's hit or 1053 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: miss at home, And I just remember sitting with my dad. 1054 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: We had a heater, he had made coffee and homemade biscuits, 1055 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: and I had my duck mallard shoes on, and just 1056 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't think I should killed a duck that year, 1057 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: but it was just going with my dad and my 1058 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: grandpa and the duck blind he got in my mallard 1059 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 1: How shoes a good? All right? I know I jumped 1060 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: the gun on the dog earlier, but it seemed like 1061 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the good segue. It was great, it was, it was good, 1062 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: it was. That was one of them. I came with multiple. Yeah, 1063 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: so similar to Kaylee, grew up going duck hunting with 1064 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: my dad and my brothers and getting all dressed up. 1065 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: I can distinctively remember the smell of chapstick, hot chocolate 1066 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and honey buns. I know that's a very combination, but 1067 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: that and you know, just getting zipped up in my 1068 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: cover rolls and I would sit on a dog stand 1069 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 1: and just watch and watch, and I thought it was 1070 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever. It was like sitting back to 1071 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: watch I don't know, the razorbacks play in my mind 1072 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: as a little girl, was watching all these ducks come 1073 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: in and everyone get their limit, and then going back 1074 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: to school on Monday saying, we got our limit this weekend, 1075 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: like it was a It was a really big deal. 1076 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: So that's pretty special. Another really fun memory. Another one, 1077 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: there's some cool pictures of you when you were a 1078 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: little girl. Ye your camp. Yeah, I remember holding all 1079 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: the ducks. There's some get bulls in there. Colors are good, 1080 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: misty at taking pictures and documenting for real, Like any 1081 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: duck is going to have just a lot of real 1082 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: photographs on the wall. They really do. So that was 1083 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: pretty special. And then when Joe and I first started dating, 1084 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: uh back when we were in high school going out 1085 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: and uh we it was water sprows up that morning 1086 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: and we said, okay, we're going to go in an 1087 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: afternoon hunt. So we go out and we don't think 1088 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: we're going to kill anything. We end up with our 1089 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: limited ducks in like fifteen minutes, and we just started dating. 1090 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 1: We were high fiving. I mean, we're just did we 1091 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: just become best friends? So so that was that was 1092 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 1: that was really special. Mr Booth Duck story. Um, so 1093 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: like a lot of duck hunters. I started duck hunting 1094 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 1: for one reason, and it had nothing to do with ducks. 1095 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: It was because my dad and I went, not just 1096 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: so I could see ducks, but so I could see 1097 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,040 Speaker 1: my dad in his element. Um. And I probably I 1098 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know when I was six or 1099 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 1: so so thirty years ago, and um, you know, I 1100 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 1: remember the exact things we used to get it at 1101 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: the gas station. Twenty ounce bottles of Coca Cola peanuts, 1102 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: and we put down in the coke bottles Austin cheese 1103 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: and peanut butter crackers and some honey bums. Uh. And 1104 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: so that you know, that was just a ball for 1105 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: me to to get to hang out with my dad 1106 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: that much and be in pursuit of something together. Well, 1107 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 1: the week before last, my nine year old killed her 1108 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: first and she had she had she had gone a 1109 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: shot with Kaylee the day before. Um and she she's nine. Um, 1110 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: and I tried to get her to use the eight 1111 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: seventy that I learned to shoot, and I think it's 1112 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: a little bit too heavy for downgraded, a little too started. 1113 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: She probab she had a bunch of claim nights. Yeah, 1114 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: and and and then we went up the next morning, 1115 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: uh in flooded green timber. And I told her, I said, now, 1116 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: you've never seen ducks work like this before. I said, 1117 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: when the first group comes in, I don't want you 1118 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: to shoot. I just want you to drink it up. 1119 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: And you just watched him come in that way, and 1120 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: the second group comes in, you'll have a frame of 1121 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: reference for what your shot looks like. And um, you know, 1122 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 1: she's nine. She's sitting on a dog stand and she's 1123 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: doing so good. She's not winting, she's not cold, she's 1124 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 1: not fidgeting, she's quiet. She's just drinking it up. And 1125 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: that first group comes in and it's just it's textbook 1126 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: they read. They read the script textbook. And now was 1127 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: anybody else shooting? Or it was me and two other adults. Uh, 1128 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: we didn't let him land, but you know we we 1129 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: shot him when we were supposed to. And it was perfect. 1130 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: And as soon as the gun silence does us all 1131 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 1: or or the gun noise dies off, she just squeals. 1132 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: She got that was amazing. And then the next group 1133 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 1: that came in had a little bit more light now, 1134 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: so it's easier for her for her for her to shoot. 1135 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 1: She put up a twenty eight Gage semi automatic and uh, 1136 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: it was a green head that was the first one 1137 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: in the hole. And he's sitting there fluttering and uh 1138 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 1: she picked that gun up, pull the trigger and he dropped, 1139 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: and uh there were three adults in the hole and 1140 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 1: there was not a dry So, you know, being the 1141 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 1: thirty six years in advance of what I enjoyed so 1142 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 1: much now sharing it with her just meant the world 1143 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: name cool man. That's great, Misty. Duck hunters are sentimental too. 1144 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: I like the roles that I'm playing in today's podcast. 1145 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm like the the uneducated person over here who needs 1146 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Clay to kind of fill in. I appreciate that. That's 1147 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: what I am, uneducated when it comes to duck hunting. 1148 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: I've never been before. My favorite duck story is that 1149 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Amy has invited me to go with her. I've never been. 1150 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 1: That's in here studio audience. No, she's and Rea's invited 1151 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: me to go with her, and so I'm I'm super 1152 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: excited about it. Mainly, I want to cook a duck 1153 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 1: like I used Clay's clay suggestion last time and it 1154 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 1: was no good. So I have done some research and 1155 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,439 Speaker 1: I told Bear, I said, hey, if you are sun Bear, 1156 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,439 Speaker 1: I mean kind of went out. He really he enjoyed 1157 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 1: duck coming with Clay last year and he and some 1158 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: someboddies decided that they thought they found a duck hole 1159 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: up here, which was a long shot and and anyway, 1160 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: but they went out and I told him, if you 1161 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: get a duck I'm gonna I've got recipes and we'll 1162 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,479 Speaker 1: have a big party tonight. So if I if Yeah, 1163 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: And also the other thing, I would like for Kaylee 1164 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 1: to show me how to shoot. Do you think she 1165 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: can fix my right eye dominance problem? Yeah, yeah, you 1166 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 1: need to come see me. Yeah, I'll fix Yeah, I'd 1167 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 1: like that. We need to do that. Yeah, my daughter 1168 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: is right handed, but left eye dollar Okay. Oh that's tough. Yeah, 1169 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: it is tough. It is tough. And I didn't know 1170 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I was until Brent Reach told me. This is this 1171 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: is your this is a problem. I think being left 1172 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: eye dominant being a right hand shooter is kind of 1173 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: like having like food allergies that aren't real. Stop this 1174 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:45,639 Speaker 1: guy statement, Just this guy when he gets it. When 1175 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: when Clay doesn't have a lot of tolerance for weakness, 1176 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you all that. Okay, he's a he's 1177 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 1: a fantastic he's a fantastic, fantastic husband, excellent father. But 1178 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: like people come in and say that they're they're gluten 1179 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 1: free or there, this or that, and Clay like, probably not, 1180 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: that's not true. And it's like he's got I see 1181 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 1: him when he gets a cold. I mean, it's like 1182 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen very often, but when it happens, he's out, 1183 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean completely years I get a cold, I've got 1184 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:27,720 Speaker 1: I've got stories, y'all, I've got stories about I was 1185 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: not allowed to even give an introduction today. Back to 1186 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: my original point that those are very sentimental people, and 1187 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,720 Speaker 1: that comes back to I thought Scott Harness he did 1188 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,600 Speaker 1: a good job of describing something that from the outside, 1189 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: when you become a duck hunter like I have become, 1190 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: it is an incredible amount of work. Very early in 1191 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 1: the morning, very cold, very wet, very like for real. 1192 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like, wow, this is a lot of work. 1193 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:11,640 Speaker 1: And what Scott described to me, and he kind of 1194 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 1: said it on his on on his story, was that 1195 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: there's so much surface area for human interaction but also 1196 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 1: interaction with boats, trucks, dogs, shotguns, ducks, and waterfowl. Like 1197 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 1: there's a there are a lot simpler things that you 1198 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,479 Speaker 1: could do in in outdoor space that would just be 1199 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: like hey, let's like grab a shotgun and like walk 1200 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 1: through the woods and still hunt squirrels. I mean, just 1201 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: as an example, like like that's pretty simple. Duck hunting 1202 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 1: is not simple, but it's very It's also rarely does 1203 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 1: someone go duck hunt by themselves, Like you definitely can 1204 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 1: and people do, but generally, I mean, I would say 1205 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,600 Speaker 1: the vast majority of duck hunting is totally about the 1206 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: people that you're with. There really is. It's a social endeavor, 1207 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 1: it really is. And uh and so it really is 1208 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,879 Speaker 1: a unique culture. But it has a lot of surface 1209 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 1: area for stuff to go wrong. That's kind of what 1210 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 1: Scott was saying was that there's a lot of surface 1211 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:19,639 Speaker 1: area for stuff to go wrong, for wild stuff to happen. 1212 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: And he was saying that duck hunters are story collectors. 1213 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: They're not really after ducks. Like if you're a deer hunter, 1214 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 1: like you're really trying to kill. You're trying to kill 1215 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 1: a deer and and a lot of times the success 1216 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 1: really might be whether you killed one or not, and 1217 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: you're alone most of the time too, So it's just solo. 1218 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 1: It's just it's pretty much a solo endeavor. And uh, 1219 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 1: but duck hunting, yeah, I think you can hear that 1220 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,480 Speaker 1: in all their stories. Um. I always say, there's there's 1221 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 1: like an inverse relationship between the amount of snacks that 1222 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: our kids get and their passion for hunting. And so 1223 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 1: Bear and Clay will go hunting and it's like you're 1224 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: going fast for three days and here's can of sardine's, Like, 1225 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, but then if he'll if he'll take one 1226 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 1: of our girls, are you saying because bears a passionate hunt, 1227 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: there's no quality snacks. There's another one that gets like 1228 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's like going to a candy shop every 1229 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: time they go hunting. But I appreciate these stories. I 1230 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: think it's like these are y'all stories are especially for 1231 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,479 Speaker 1: someone who's who hasn't grown up in that world, in 1232 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 1: the duck hunting world. Your stories all of you had 1233 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 1: several honeybun mentioned, uh, some biscuits, homemade biscuits. You know. 1234 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,400 Speaker 1: I think that there is something about the food and 1235 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: the the socialization aspect of it and bringing your kids 1236 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 1: and having that multigenerational experience. Yeah, it's it's you can 1237 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 1: hold duck camp. Like that's something that that I missed 1238 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 1: out on because Gary Nucom was such a die hard 1239 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: bow hunter, like he we didn't like, we didn't really 1240 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: want to have a big camp. I mean, just need 1241 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 1: to say it today. And that's what's cool about duck hunting. 1242 01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: And it's also what's cool about me not really knowing 1243 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,640 Speaker 1: much about duck hunting until I was an adult. That 1244 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 1: I think makes me value it. And uh, come along 1245 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,719 Speaker 1: and those emails, man, boy, I get those duck emails 1246 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: from Luke Naylor. You know, duck season is only sixty 1247 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: days and deer season you've got this bigger span to 1248 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: do it. That's from Moore concentrated, Like you get sixty 1249 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: days and guys hit it hard and they do. It's 1250 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 1: amazing how people are so obsessed with it in the 1251 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 1: idea of duck camp and you think about you're like, wow, 1252 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: it goes by so quick. Yeah, and you can't miss 1253 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 1: the day of it. You gotta go coast the day 1254 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 1: maybe the day that's right, the day you can't kill 1255 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,680 Speaker 1: him from the couch. I think duck hunting to that 1256 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: outweighs them. Any other hunt is or any other hunting is? 1257 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 1: It kind of after season still carries on through the 1258 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: rest of the year because you have dogs that you're 1259 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 1: training and working and preparing for the next season. And 1260 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 1: it's just I think it's it sets itself apart from 1261 01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:01,920 Speaker 1: dear Anger. Yeah yeah cool. Kennie. Tell me about your 1262 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,679 Speaker 1: business And I asked her before the podcast. I said, 1263 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 1: is you're shooting? How you make it a living and 1264 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 1: what you do? So? Yeah, what what you do? So? 1265 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 1: Um my full time job is athlete on t mu 1266 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 1: s A. So with that, I opened up a shooting 1267 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,600 Speaker 1: lodge called Cypers Creek Shooting Lodge. It's out in Greenbrier 1268 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,040 Speaker 1: and it's basically a place where it's a training facility. 1269 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 1: It's a place where you can come and learn how 1270 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,679 Speaker 1: to kill ducks. You can learn how to clay target shoot, 1271 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 1: you can try some squirrels whatever. We don't discriminate. Um 1272 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 1: I could. I could probably put on a clint Yeah 1273 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 1: you probably could, um yeah yeah, um so yeah. We 1274 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I have a training facility there that coach. I love 1275 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,719 Speaker 1: to coach the younger generation and just get them involved 1276 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 1: because shooting is one of those things that if you're 1277 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: not the best athlete, if you're not a football star, 1278 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,680 Speaker 1: basketball star or whatever. Um, you can pick up a 1279 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 1: gun and I can probably get to you to be 1280 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 1: as good as you want to go with it. So 1281 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 1: UM have the shooting lodge there out in Greenbrier and 1282 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: we have every clay target discipline that that you could shoot. 1283 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of different discipline sporting plays, Olympic trap, 1284 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 1: American trap, whatever. And so how would people would they 1285 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 1: how would they get your services so they can go look? 1286 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: Is it like a couple hour things? However, however long 1287 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: Amory has been out a couple of times, Austin has 1288 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 1: been out, his family, Um Joe has been out. But 1289 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 1: you can go to Cyperscreet Shooting dot com and there's 1290 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot of information on that, or send us 1291 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 1: an email at booking at cyperscreet Shooting dot com. You know, 1292 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I want to do a plug for people who may 1293 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: want to get into duck hunting, and that is go 1294 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 1: visit someone like Kaylee or a game and fish shooting 1295 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 1: range and shoot a gun first before you go out. 1296 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,440 Speaker 1: And we have instructors at all of our gaming fish facilities, 1297 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: and obviously Cypress Creek. That's where, that's where I I 1298 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 1: love it. Oh my gosh, Kayley straightened me out of ton. 1299 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,640 Speaker 1: But go and learn the proper way to do it, 1300 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,639 Speaker 1: just like Austin did with his daughter, and you enjoy 1301 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 1: the experience so much more because I remember the first 1302 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 1: time I ever shot a shotgun, it was like, oh here, 1303 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 1: you know your brother has done this, You've seated enough 1304 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,560 Speaker 1: shoot it. And I shot it and you know, it 1305 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 1: just about knocked me down and it kind of scared me. 1306 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,759 Speaker 1: And I was afraid to shoot a shotgun for a while. 1307 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: So I wish that I had done, you know, the 1308 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: proper outlets to do it. So it's incredibly important. It 1309 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: makes things more enjoyable. Yeah I know how to shoot. Yeah, man, 1310 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,840 Speaker 1: I got So I've got a lot of questions about shooting. Um, 1311 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 1: I know, I'm super curious because a Marie you're I mean, 1312 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: you're a seasoned hunter and yeah, you're you're getting You're 1313 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 1: you're improving as a result of going to Kaylee, so 1314 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,960 Speaker 1: she's able to help, like and then Austin's daughter is 1315 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: a brand new That's that's kind of fascinating to me. 1316 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 1: That so earlier we're talking about I dominance I shot, 1317 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm left handed. I shot right handed for ed, 1318 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 1: did just get real? I shot right handed forever because 1319 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 1: that's what my dad my brothers did. I thought, Okay, 1320 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,679 Speaker 1: they shoot right handed, That's what I'm going to shoot. 1321 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 1: I was out at the range one day shooting trap 1322 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 1: with somebody and they go, I go, yeah, you know, 1323 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 1: kind of gotta work on it a little bit. And 1324 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 1: he goes, well, uh, you know, what eye dominance are you? 1325 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't really know. I think I 1326 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 1: think I'm right eye. Did the test left eye dominant? Started? 1327 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 1: She left handed made the biggest difference in the world. Interesting, 1328 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 1: I am, I'm left handed, but I do some things 1329 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 1: right handed. So this is back and I don't know 1330 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. So I'd gone a majority of my 1331 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 1: life just shooting right hand and just kind of figuring 1332 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 1: it out, adjusting to it, and you know, get some 1333 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: decent shots. And then in the past few years, I'm like, 1334 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 1: I feel like I could do some brushing up and 1335 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: improve even more. I was a fine shot. I could 1336 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 1: go out and have a good duck hunt, but I 1337 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 1: want to be better. So I went and so interesting, 1338 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,639 Speaker 1: my shell bill has been has been cut in half. 1339 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 1: It's great. Really, Yeah, I never thought of it as 1340 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 1: a financial move. Shot gun shells are expecting at the 1341 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 1: highest levels of competitive shooting. How much of it is 1342 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 1: natural talent and how much of it is years and 1343 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 1: decades of that's a great question. So at my level, 1344 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 1: it becomes how much work you're going to put into it? 1345 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 1: After you learn the fundamentals of the game, it all 1346 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,920 Speaker 1: becomes mental and it's who. For example, at Olympics, I'd 1347 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: never been on that stage I was competing. It's a 1348 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 1: girl who is a three time Olympic medal assistance her 1349 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 1: fourth Olympics. She's seen that platform before. So she beat me. 1350 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,320 Speaker 1: She she beat me by one time, she got gold 1351 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,919 Speaker 1: by one. But at that level, one target doesn't define, 1352 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, in my one target, Yeah, it doesn't define 1353 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 1: if she's a better shot or if I'm a better shot. 1354 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 1: It's it's the stage that you're on. So at that level, 1355 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 1: it's just who's going to outwork who. She's pretty mean, 1356 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:05,640 Speaker 1: she wears a do rag and so, but she's the 1357 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: sweetest person. She speaks like seventeen languages. She's just she's 1358 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 1: very cool girl. Yeah, she's she's she's really cool. So 1359 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 1: the much of the shooting is is, but you've got 1360 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 1: to be naturally really talented. Though, the biggest part in 1361 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 1: shooting is learning how to use your eyes. And anybody 1362 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: can learn that. Whether your right eye dominant, left eye 1363 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,840 Speaker 1: dominant right handed, left handed, that doesn't doesn't matter when 1364 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,600 Speaker 1: it comes down to it. It's how you learn to 1365 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: use your eyes. So if I were to take you 1366 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 1: out and a big flock of ducks come in and 1367 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,639 Speaker 1: I say, hey, Clay, what did you see on those ducks, 1368 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 1: you'd be like, I saw thirty or forty ducks. I 1369 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 1: can see the green around its neck. I can pick 1370 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 1: out a detail on that duck, and that's what separates 1371 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 1: what I'm going to shoot versus what you're going to shoot. 1372 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 1: So it's just really learning how how to use what 1373 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,719 Speaker 1: you have. Remember got one time on a some type 1374 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 1: of training instructional video saying that he was trying to 1375 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 1: count the wing flaps of crows and they're just like, 1376 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 1: and I think about that a lot. I don't do 1377 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: it very often, but yeah, that's interesting. So it's all 1378 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 1: about It's about it's about detail. Like when Amory comes down, 1379 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,599 Speaker 1: I make her pick out a detail on the clay 1380 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 1: target that we're shooting, whether that be the center dome 1381 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,600 Speaker 1: or the ridges that's on the clay target, or the 1382 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,639 Speaker 1: black rim. Because if she's looking at a hole, she's 1383 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 1: looking at a whole picture. Her site is going to 1384 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:28,640 Speaker 1: be a little bit different, her aim is going to 1385 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 1: be a little bit different. If she might be a 1386 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 1: little left, and because she's seeing the whole picture, she's 1387 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 1: gonna say, I feel like I was right on it. 1388 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 1: But if you hone in on the detail, now we 1389 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,719 Speaker 1: can say, okay, so where you look at when clay pigeon, 1390 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to see a detail where that's a light 1391 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,799 Speaker 1: spot on it from the sun, where that's a shadow, 1392 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 1: just any kind of detail that I could pick out. 1393 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,040 Speaker 1: It's like a therapy lesson when you go out there 1394 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,559 Speaker 1: talking with her and her dad and figuring it all out. 1395 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 1: And once we did that and I realized, Okay, I've 1396 01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: been using my eyes wrong for this long, you're starting 1397 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,759 Speaker 1: knocking him down and it's so much more fun. Yeah. 1398 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 1: So if I was going to toss my phone to 1399 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,680 Speaker 1: you and say, hey, catch this, I throwed up, the 1400 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: first thing that you're going to look for is your 1401 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 1: eyes are going to look for it, and your hands 1402 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,760 Speaker 1: are going to know where to go. Shooting is the 1403 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 1: same same concept that parallels with your hand I coronation there, 1404 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 1: M you think I'm ready. I don't want him around 1405 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 1: because he doesn't believe that I have a condition. We've 1406 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 1: been over this. He doesn't believe in conditions. But I 1407 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:37,719 Speaker 1: have a feeling you're you're shooting learning that would Uh. 1408 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: There's a guy I don't I don't know him well, 1409 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,759 Speaker 1: but there's a there's a guy that does some traditional 1410 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 1: archery bow hunting classes and most of his stuff is 1411 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:52,600 Speaker 1: about mental understanding of shot sequence named Joel Turner. It 1412 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 1: seems like a good guy. I don't know him, but 1413 01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 1: he talks about like you're either He's talking about traditional 1414 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 1: archery where you don't have sights like it would be 1415 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 1: with a gun, and uh, he talks a lot about 1416 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 1: sequence and knowing what you're gonna do before before you shoot, 1417 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,559 Speaker 1: and it kind of makes you when you hear him talk, 1418 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,759 Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I guess I'm just kind of guessing 1419 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 1: a lot. But I'll tell you what it works good 1420 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:27,160 Speaker 1: for squirrels long ways away and you just keep shooting guessing. Okay, great, Well, 1421 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: um Man I've I've like throw up like multiple bad 1422 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,599 Speaker 1: jokes that I was looking for a little studio audience. 1423 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Today we're all the whole thing about let the squirrels 1424 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 1: get far away and this kind of you have a 1425 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 1: little bit more room for guessing where to aim. Yeah. No, 1426 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm impressed with the with the the knowledge that 1427 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,360 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that you you have and could 1428 01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 1: impart to people with just a little bit of training. 1429 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 1: My grandfather was a there's a picture of him, where's 1430 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 1: it at? Where's the picture of pet? He used to 1431 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 1: be right there, where's oh? Right there? Yeah. He. I 1432 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,679 Speaker 1: grew up shooting ski with him, and he was he's 1433 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,720 Speaker 1: a bird dog man, and we we shot skip for 1434 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,720 Speaker 1: all the time with cotton in our ears, probably the 1435 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 1: reason I'm deaf. But he always talked about blacking him 1436 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,719 Speaker 1: out and follow through, like those are the main things 1437 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 1: he talked about, was black him out and then follow through, 1438 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 1: like if you're moving through a bird, just keep moving. 1439 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 1: But that's about as technical as we got. But shoot 1440 01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 1: where the corn goes in, where the corn goes out? 1441 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 1: M M. And as his attorney, I just like to 1442 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: clarify for the record that he is not as my attorney. 1443 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 1: He is not employing in anyway that he duck hunts 1444 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:55,560 Speaker 1: over corn. Yeah, that's what I was thinking that. It 1445 01:23:55,640 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 1: was like that does that work? Uh? Well, hey, thank 1446 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 1: you Austin, director of the game, and finish in here. 1447 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:11,599 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Anne, Marie, thank you for coming. Thanks, 1448 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna take it up. I told Misty I wanted to 1449 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,479 Speaker 1: take her back down there. Come on. It sounds like 1450 01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna make something work, like you're gonna come. Yes, 1451 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 1: I had a request. Uh. Since I've been listen to 1452 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 1: this podcast, I hear about this gentleman sitting next to 1453 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,800 Speaker 1: me that used to god on by me too when 1454 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 1: you still could, I kind of want to hear them 1455 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 1: call he got still Today it's not there as much pressure. 1456 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:46,800 Speaker 1: It's like, this is the Alvin Taylor is Alvin Taylor call? 1457 01:24:46,880 --> 01:25:06,640 Speaker 1: He made this from me in nineteen Let's let's hear 1458 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,679 Speaker 1: let's hear your call. What kind of calls you running? 1459 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: So I've got two separate cons. I've got to cut 1460 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 1: down calls, and then I've got sorry, three cutdown calls. 1461 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 1: And then to j Frames, which I said, those are 1462 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 1: just different cons. What um what? Brent Blue was a 1463 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 1: j frame, So I'll try to blow on these cutdowns 1464 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 1: and y'all can hear. You'll can hear the difference. It 1465 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 1: will be louder. Keep your bike up like that if 1466 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:50,720 Speaker 1: you can be louder and raspier. Okay, yeah, it's kind 1467 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 1: of it's it's got a little more meat to it, 1468 01:25:52,520 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 1: doesn't rasp volume excellent. Well, heck, we're blowing duck calls. Okay, 1469 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 1: this is I got this one from Jim Stinson the 1470 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,679 Speaker 1: other day, and he ill tell you what he did 1471 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 1: with me is he uh, he was trying to teach 1472 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: me how to just make one quack and he he 1473 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't let me blow up more than once. And he said, 1474 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 1: he said, pretend like you're blowing out a candle. He said, 1475 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,320 Speaker 1: pretend like you're blowing out a candle, but you're but 1476 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 1: you're closing your lips like going and that's and he 1477 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 1: so he said, and then he he had me do 1478 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,679 Speaker 1: that like twenty times, and he would go, he would 1479 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 1: come every single time I did it, he'd go, nope, nope, yep, yep, yep, nope, yep, yep, nope. Ye. Yeah, yeah, 1480 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,639 Speaker 1: it was it was like intense. And then he said Okay, 1481 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:51,000 Speaker 1: do it twice you there you go, m he go, Nope, 1482 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 1: he misses it on the second one. But anyway, he 1483 01:26:53,560 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 1: just like marched me through it, which is pretty good. Yeah, 1484 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 1: just quiet. I saw it takes boys, words of words 1485 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 1: of wisdom. That's what was an email, right, Yeah, that's 1486 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: what the email jokes are getting a lot of less. 1487 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 1: I will I would like to bring up this gift 1488 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 1: that uh, that the Durramis has brought me from from 1489 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 1: a stop they made on the way to the the northwest Arkansas. 1490 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 1: This is a black rifle. Uh, just like a twelve 1491 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 1: ounce pack of coffee, and it has a full real 1492 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 1: black panther on the cover and it's a Lava Panther 1493 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 1: Black Rifle Coffee Company's hashtag. They are one of my sponsors. 1494 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,479 Speaker 1: So actually, if anybody would like a black rifle savings, 1495 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:58,000 Speaker 1: you can use my name, Kaylee. Picture you like shooting something. 1496 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I cannot confirm a black panther man. This this is 1497 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,880 Speaker 1: a big win for us, Lava Panther. I thought it 1498 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,680 Speaker 1: was really special. You know, meat eaters big in with 1499 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,760 Speaker 1: there's a meat eater blend of black rifle. Yeah. I've 1500 01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,360 Speaker 1: had it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good. Yeah, they they are. 1501 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 1: They're such a good sponsor. They ship stuff to the 1502 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 1: lodge all the time, so all we drink is black rifle. 1503 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 1: That's all I carry in the lodge as well. And 1504 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,599 Speaker 1: they support veterans, they do, they do. I think it's 1505 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 1: don't quote me on this, but I want to say 1506 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 1: over half their company is veterans work there. So yeah, 1507 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 1: I think I've heard that too. Great, well, Emory, just 1508 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,000 Speaker 1: see my black panther up there. Oh yeah, first thing 1509 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 1: I saw when I came in. I finally got a 1510 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 1: bottle resting place for him. He was kind of bouncing 1511 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 1: around the office, but I got him. I got him 1512 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 1: up there. I don't know why he's not above the 1513 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,679 Speaker 1: mantel in the house, but that's just yeah. Oh man, yea, well, 1514 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. Yeah, yeah, great stuff. And 1515 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 1: the next series of Burgrease it's gonna be incredible. That's 1516 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,280 Speaker 1: all I can say. It's kind I think I'll go 1517 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 1: home now. What he's quoting for stump. You have you 1518 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,280 Speaker 1: ever seen the TV? Not very often. This man does 1519 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,719 Speaker 1: not like what Hey, Happy new Year, everybody. Great