Speaker 1: I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset.
Speaker 2: When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 2: And when I find my.
Speaker 1: Ball in a brid Egg Frida Egg, the Friday Frida Egg,
Speaker 1: Frida Egg, Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run
Speaker 1: off the golf course.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Egg Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am back from a long, lengthy road trip US
Speaker 2: Open and then followed by a week out in the
Speaker 2: met section in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. So
Speaker 2: it was a great trip. Saw a lot of new
Speaker 2: golf courses to me, which was really phenomenal. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny. I one of our Matt Rusch's,
Speaker 2: our podcast editor here podcast producer, does a lot of
Speaker 2: things for us. He was it was the first time
Speaker 2: he'd been out there. He's very into golf course design,
Speaker 2: golf architecture, and at one point he turned to me
Speaker 2: and he said, does every place just have amazing land
Speaker 2: out here? And it's kind of like, yeah, they do.
Speaker 2: That's what makes it such an amazing part of the
Speaker 2: country for golf. And it's always important to remember that
Speaker 2: when you start with a stellar site, there's only so
Speaker 2: much that can go wrong, and uh, you know, out there,
Speaker 2: it's there's so much great land, whether it's whether it's
Speaker 2: rocky soil like Yale or sandy soil. I think Hollywood's
Speaker 2: pretty sandy, it's not you know what, pure sand or
Speaker 2: Saint George's which is which is pretty sandy as well.
Speaker 2: On Long Island. You know, the the land out there
Speaker 2: is just such a wonderful asset. And obviously then the
Speaker 2: the other part of that is having all the great architects,
Speaker 2: Sands really Mackenzie work out there. All the great American
Speaker 2: architects other than Mackenzie and George Thomas built golf courses
Speaker 2: in Long Island in New York. So really I can't
Speaker 2: wait to get back out there, and there'll be a
Speaker 2: lot more on my trip on the fried Egg and
Speaker 2: Club TV. I'm just trying to come up for air
Speaker 2: from that, spend some good time with my family. Today
Speaker 2: we have Shane Bacon on the podcast. We're talking Ryder Cup.
Speaker 2: It's kind of close, it's not that far away. So
Speaker 2: I was excited to talk to Shane kind of about
Speaker 2: the European Tour, European team and the American team, where
Speaker 2: they're at, what directions. We think they're going with the
Speaker 2: bottom half that or roster right at the point where
Speaker 2: there are some locks. Before we get to that, what
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about in this intro is the
Speaker 2: preposterousness of the Travelers. And there's an ESPN, there's an
Speaker 2: associated Press report about the Travelers making course changes after
Speaker 2: record low scoring. So there's rain, there wasn't a lot
Speaker 2: of weather, so the course was soft and it wasn't
Speaker 2: windy or anything, and guys lit it up. Keegan Bradley
Speaker 2: shot a course record, you know, like a tournament record,
Speaker 2: twenty three under, which was a shot better than Kenny
Speaker 2: Perry in two thousand and nine. There were eight rounds
Speaker 2: of sixty two or better during the week, and now
Speaker 2: they say they need to make course changes. This is
Speaker 2: just like the inanity of professional golf. And Andy Bassett,
Speaker 2: who is an executive vice president at Travelers and really
Speaker 2: a driving force. He's a great guy. I think he's,
Speaker 2: you know, done a lot to revamp this tournament and
Speaker 2: make it a great tournament. But you know, running down
Speaker 2: after records scoring and demanding course changes, we're completely missing
Speaker 2: the boat here. I think, like obviously, technology is the
Speaker 2: reason that this golf course has been completely rendered, you know, undefensible,
Speaker 2: and you know, let's be real, not every golf course
Speaker 2: it's going to be a US Open setup. Not every
Speaker 2: golf course is going to be stout. This golf course
Speaker 2: does actually lend itself to some variety. We saw some
Speaker 2: short hitters have a chance for you know once so
Speaker 2: Besett wants changes. He allegedly has talked to like some
Speaker 2: of the players and is soliciting feedback from players, which
Speaker 2: I'm sure it will be narrow fairways, more water hazards,
Speaker 2: other things. You know, one player vostivously was on the
Speaker 2: other side, and I think this is probably the bullet here.
Speaker 2: Rory McElroy said, I don't particularly like when a tournament
Speaker 2: is like this. Unfortunately, technology has passed this course by right.
Speaker 2: It sort of has made it obsolete, especially as soft
Speaker 2: as it's been with little bit of rain that we had.
Speaker 2: So again, like the conversations going back to you know,
Speaker 2: limiting the golf ball and stuff like that, when we
Speaker 2: come to courses like this, they just don't present the
Speaker 2: challenge they used to. So McElroy went on to say
Speaker 2: he wasn't a fan of the idea of just making fairways,
Speaker 2: narrower and rough rougher that bunches everyone together. The blueprint
Speaker 2: is something like Los Angeles Country Club where the US
Speaker 2: Open was held, where you can have wide targets, but
Speaker 2: if you miss, it's penal. Another course that has that
Speaker 2: in common. Augusta National. Just for the record, this isn't
Speaker 2: that sort of golf course. It's not that sort of layout.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have the land to do that. So you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: when it gets soft conditions like this, you've got the
Speaker 2: best players in the world. This is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I think. I think the second half of that statement
Speaker 2: is really telling. It goes back to what I was
Speaker 2: just talking about with New York golf, Like a lot
Speaker 2: of places don't have the necessary ingredients to present a
Speaker 2: modern test. You need immense length, you need some terrain,
Speaker 2: you need wind, you need firmness to really test these
Speaker 2: great players. Today, LACC after the first round was a
Speaker 2: huge was a tremendous test of golf. Augusta National every
Speaker 2: year is a test of golf. But those courses, I mean,
Speaker 2: Shinnakok you could throw in here too, tremendous test of golf.
Speaker 2: They have topography, they have elements, they have really undulating greens,
Speaker 2: they have firm conditions for the for some part, you
Speaker 2: know Augusta obviously as the sub era. They all have
Speaker 2: brilliant design. And I don't think anybody is going to
Speaker 2: River Highlands is saying that's a brilliant design. So let's
Speaker 2: just you know, I think one of the things that
Speaker 2: you know, this second happens. There's only a handful of
Speaker 2: horses that are going to present a really stern test
Speaker 2: to the world's best players, and most of them do
Speaker 2: not want to host an annual event. So let's get
Speaker 2: back to how could what's the easiest way for a
Speaker 2: golf course to present a better test to these pros
Speaker 2: the golf ball going a shorter distance all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: then it's not just a wedge fest. It's not just
Speaker 2: driver wedge, driver seven iron and to par fives. If
Speaker 2: the golf ball goes shorter, it will present a different test.
Speaker 2: This trip in New York I was the first trip
Speaker 2: I've played, or first golf I've played really with modern
Speaker 2: golf clubs in a probably about a year, and I
Speaker 2: was just shocked at how I hadn't played in a
Speaker 2: month and I've been nursing a bad neck, and I
Speaker 2: was just shocked at how well I was able to
Speaker 2: play when I was playing so poorly, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: And you know, when you can just hit a driver
Speaker 2: up and really get yourself a wedge into almost any
Speaker 2: hole or a short iron, it makes golf so much easier.
Speaker 2: There are just so few things that can go wrong.
Speaker 2: Having played per Simmon and the old blades, I was
Speaker 2: routinely hitting six irons and more into part fours. You know,
Speaker 2: a two hundred and sixty yard drive with the Persimmon
Speaker 2: was a good drive. If it was wet at all,
Speaker 2: the ball went nowhere. If it was firm, I could
Speaker 2: hit a three hundred, But if it was wet, the
Speaker 2: ball just doesn't go very far with a per Simon driver.
Speaker 2: You were kind I was kind of relying on a
Speaker 2: knuckleball out there, And I think that's the thing here,
Speaker 2: is that we got to stop listening to players. Inherently,
Speaker 2: players want nothing to change, and I understand that that's
Speaker 2: like the salesperson not wanting any commission structure changed. We
Speaker 2: need to look at other stakeholders that have vested interest
Speaker 2: in the game, Like, hey, I cover golf architecture, changes
Speaker 2: are good for me. That gives me stuff to talk about. Right,
Speaker 2: changes are great for golf architects. If courses constantly have
Speaker 2: to modify because of technology, golf architects get rich. How
Speaker 2: come they are the ones that are maybe the most
Speaker 2: adamant about rolling the ball back. That's not good for
Speaker 2: their business. It's not like they're going to build new
Speaker 2: tees or do these other projects that to modernize nice
Speaker 2: golf courses. Look at what's going on at Oakmont. You
Speaker 2: know they're doing a bunker renovation, but part of it
Speaker 2: is just they're embarrassed by what happened at the USAM
Speaker 2: with guys playing down other fairways. You know, these there
Speaker 2: are changes that are being made to golf courses because
Speaker 2: of what's happening at the ultra ultra elite. It's millions
Speaker 2: and millions of dollars being spent to do this. The
Speaker 2: Travelers TPC River Highlands, it looks like they're going to
Speaker 2: make modifications. Those are going to cost exorbitant amounts of money.
Speaker 2: This is not cheap stuff. Rolling the ball back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these manufacturers who have made you know, millions and billions
Speaker 2: of dollars on the game of golf for years, are
Speaker 2: going to have to put a little bit of time
Speaker 2: and money into R and D. They already have golf
Speaker 2: balls made. You know, they've already done that. They've been
Speaker 2: waiting for this, and guess what, they have another product
Speaker 2: to sell. People are going to use these golf balls.
Speaker 2: It's just silly that golf courses are the ones that
Speaker 2: are constantly having to adapt when the game is broken
Speaker 2: because of the technology. I don't know, I just think
Speaker 2: this is this is a ridiculous time. The players have
Speaker 2: been pretty against the rollback. I understand why. I understand why,
Speaker 2: but it's important to look at other people with vested
Speaker 2: interest in the game. So I think Rory has it
Speaker 2: right on here. I think LACC was a blueprint, and
Speaker 2: that's a whole nother thing. But there are very few
Speaker 2: places with the natural gifts that LACC has, And for
Speaker 2: a course like TPC River Highlands, you have to have
Speaker 2: the perfect storm of breezy, dry, firm conditions to present
Speaker 2: any sort of a test for these great players. And
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's the same story as this week
Speaker 2: in Detroit. It's the same story as next week when
Speaker 2: they go to Minneapolis. It's the same story for almost
Speaker 2: every golf course on the PGA to our calendar. So
Speaker 2: should we change all the courses on the PGA Tour schedule?
Speaker 2: Should we just change twenty four courses or should we
Speaker 2: just do something really simple and change the equipment. These
Speaker 2: guys will adapt if you, I can attest like, if
Speaker 2: you play well with old equipment or or lesser equipment,
Speaker 2: you still play well. It's not like you just will
Speaker 2: magically have lose the ability to shoot under par. It's
Speaker 2: not like your skills diminished and vanish away. You still
Speaker 2: can play well. It's just shows when you don't play
Speaker 2: well more. And I think that's what we want as
Speaker 2: golf fans. We want to see players overcome challenges. That's
Speaker 2: what makes the majors so compelling and all these events,
Speaker 2: And this is what the PGA Tour needs to understand.
Speaker 2: What makes golf compelling is not four hundred yard drives.
Speaker 2: It's the idea of overcoming and doing something unbelievable. And
Speaker 2: the more challenging the game is, the more compelling the
Speaker 2: theater will be. All Right, here's the Shane Bacon and uh,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk Ryder Cup as well as him
Speaker 2: playing in the Ike and having a great finish in
Speaker 2: the in the MGA event in New York area. So
Speaker 2: thanks Shane, Shane, welcome back on I you know, I'm
Speaker 2: excited to talk about Ryder Cup. That's what we're planning
Speaker 2: to talk about today. But I gotta commend you. You're
Speaker 2: doing the midam's right. You played the IKE, a big
Speaker 2: Metropolitan Golf association that met one of the great golf
Speaker 2: associations in the in the country. You played their IKE
Speaker 2: amateur event. You're you're dueling with college kids, juniors. He
Speaker 2: came out with a with a very Kevin Streelman like
Speaker 2: back door top ten T seven with the sixty six
Speaker 2: on in the final round. I mean, the sixty six
Speaker 2: is super impressive. It was the back end of thirty
Speaker 2: six holes walking. You must have just been hommon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I didn't play great in the morning.
Speaker 1: You know. It was in my home course. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how you feel about this, Andy,
Speaker 1: but sometimes the home course advantage actually add stress.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the home course's advantage at all.
Speaker 2: I think it's harder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you just cause you're playing a golf course,
Speaker 1: you play stress free. Ninety nine percent of the time,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the easy shots become a
Speaker 1: little bit harder, and I got off to like a
Speaker 1: red hot start in the first round. I think I
Speaker 1: was three under through my first seven and it was
Speaker 1: just kind of here we go, and then made some
Speaker 1: bogies late. But yeah, the second round, I made the cut,
Speaker 1: which was obviously goal number one, and played okay in
Speaker 1: the second round, which was I guess Tuesday morning, and
Speaker 1: birdied eighteen. So I made like a twenty five foot
Speaker 1: in my last hole to shoot seventy one, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, it was one of those things like I
Speaker 1: made that putt and I told my dad was out
Speaker 1: here watching and I said, I said, you know, all
Speaker 1: I wanted to do was shoot in the sixties. Like
Speaker 1: that's my goal for this afternoon. And it's weird, Andy,
Speaker 1: when you drive it great and make putts, you can
Speaker 1: play well. And I drove it great in the afternoon
Speaker 1: and made a lot of putts, and uh and yeah,
Speaker 1: I had like a twelve footer on the last hole
Speaker 1: for sixty five down the hill, and all I could
Speaker 1: tell myself was I'd love to make this, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to stress over a four footer coming back
Speaker 1: up the hill, Like I've already stressed enough today, Like
Speaker 1: if I make it great, but if I don't, because
Speaker 1: a top ten in that event gets you in the
Speaker 1: met Am and I think that's at Friar's and I
Speaker 1: think it might get you in the met Open. So
Speaker 1: I knew I was right around that number, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. Uh, I would have been happy with sixty five,
Speaker 1: but I was very happy with sixty six.
Speaker 2: Kane, you just described the uh, the difference between a
Speaker 2: PGA Tour player in a mid am right there, fretting
Speaker 2: about a four footer. That's, uh, you get under par hill,
Speaker 2: you get under par and it's you're snorkeling. You're not
Speaker 2: you're not scuba diving. You're snorkeling. You're afraid to go
Speaker 2: too far down in the water, have the water rush
Speaker 2: into your snorkel. Uh. That is the difference right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just I had I had Zach Blo
Speaker 1: on the Getagrip podcast we posted on Thursday, and we
Speaker 1: were talking about you know, obviously he went low on
Speaker 1: Sunday at the Travelers, and I was asking him about
Speaker 1: this exact thing, because you know, there's that fear of
Speaker 1: low that ninety nine percent of golfers have. And there
Speaker 1: are some golfers that once they get four or five under,
Speaker 1: they're trying to get to seven, they're trying to get
Speaker 1: to eight. And I had a great shot into eighteen.
Speaker 1: I mean my last hole was twelve or sorry, my
Speaker 1: last hole was eleven. Part five. I laid up. I
Speaker 1: hit a nine iron in there at about ten feet.
Speaker 1: But again I knew that putt was fast, and I
Speaker 1: knew it went away from me, and again I just
Speaker 1: didn't want a three put you know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm happy with the two putt, and most professional golfers
Speaker 1: are trying to ram that in the back and shoot
Speaker 1: sixty five not sixty six.
Speaker 2: Wait was that a was it a shotgun? Start?
Speaker 1: No? At Brookline, it's almost like Olympic Club. Ten is
Speaker 1: about as far away from the clubhouse as you can get.
Speaker 1: So he did twelve t one.
Speaker 2: T Okay, that makes sense. I was curious that when
Speaker 2: you said.
Speaker 1: That the first round we played one of the guys,
Speaker 1: goes Man, we played the front nine real fast. I
Speaker 1: was like, well, we played seven homes. We only played seven.
Speaker 1: We didn't play that.
Speaker 2: I was looking at your first car or your first
Speaker 2: round card, I thought you had just like a flurry
Speaker 2: finish with birdies. Yeah, I was super impressed. I was
Speaker 2: super impressed. I thought, I thought you just you just
Speaker 2: had this flurry of a finish to make the cut,
Speaker 2: I would say, I think like I feel like when
Speaker 2: you're playing as a mid am in these these events
Speaker 2: that I think like one of the things you you
Speaker 2: play with college golfers, and the thing that I always
Speaker 2: used to feel was like, Okay, I can contend, I
Speaker 2: can compete with them tea to green, but when they
Speaker 2: miss a green, the short games are just out of
Speaker 2: this warld.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know fear at all.
Speaker 2: And it's like they just like they'll be You'll you'll
Speaker 2: watch them and you're like, oh, they're no, that's a
Speaker 2: terrible place. They just hit it into like short sighted
Speaker 2: over at green, like a little brinning away and they
Speaker 2: hit this flop to like eighteen inches and you're like,
Speaker 2: how did how did they do that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: It's like so I always felt like that, and it's
Speaker 2: like I kind of had a similar goal. Always was like,
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm playing in a state aum, it's
Speaker 2: like make a cut. If I make the cut, I'm
Speaker 2: really happy because that makes me feel like, you know what,
Speaker 2: like I'm not I'm not grinding like these guys are grinding.
Speaker 2: And it's so I congratulations, that's h And exemptions are god.
Speaker 2: Just not having to qualify as like the greatest feeling
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But a buddy of mine that knows the area
Speaker 1: very well send me a text when I finished up,
Speaker 1: and he went, great playing, now you don't have to qualify,
Speaker 1: which is the worst thing in the world. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I trust me, I totally understand. I'm back
Speaker 1: out against the college kids. I think next week, Andy,
Speaker 1: I've got a US Amateur qualifiers. So where thirty six holes?
Speaker 1: I'll I don't know, let me look, actually, but it's
Speaker 1: it's thirty six holes. And I will say this. I
Speaker 1: told my wife this because you know, Cindy's not a
Speaker 1: gull for it all, and she listens to my golf
Speaker 1: stories even though she probably doesn't totally care that much
Speaker 1: about what I'm saying. But I was just telling her
Speaker 1: how it's at Bonnie Bryer Country Club. I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty close to my house. Let's see. Yeah, it's in
Speaker 1: a Yeah, it's not too far. But I was just
Speaker 1: telling her that I needed that round in my tournament
Speaker 1: resume because I haven't shot around like that in a
Speaker 1: long time. And it's just a reminder of myself that
Speaker 1: I can do it, you know. And it's not you know,
Speaker 1: it's you're not earning money, You're not you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not really giving you a trophy or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But to remind yourself that if you do get it rolling,
Speaker 1: you can't shoot you know, a sub sixty eight round
Speaker 1: is is important considering I've got a few tournaments left
Speaker 1: on the on the schedule. So fun week always nice
Speaker 1: when you actually do something good in golf. It doesn't
Speaker 1: happen all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's what When I qualified for the
Speaker 2: mid Am a few years ago, a good friend.
Speaker 1: Of mine stonewall, right, is that the one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And I said I was never not going
Speaker 2: to qualify, and I think I've tried to qualify one
Speaker 2: time since, you know, so life right there. It's encapsulation
Speaker 2: of your life of personal life stuff. But what my
Speaker 2: friend said to me, so I qualified, I birdied I
Speaker 2: think three of the last four, and in the year
Speaker 2: before I had had like the complete opposite finish where
Speaker 2: I was definitely in and I just kind of shit
Speaker 2: the bed down the stretch. And my buddy, Buddy I
Speaker 2: was talking to a day or two after, he said,
Speaker 2: you know, you got to you got to hang on
Speaker 2: to this moment because it's it's your one percent time.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like golf kills you ninety nine percent of the time,
Speaker 2: and you just have to hold on to those one
Speaker 2: percent moments where you actually won, you know. And it's
Speaker 2: like I always think about that. It's like it's so true,
Speaker 2: and you think about you think about like major championships, right,
Speaker 2: like you think about the last one at LACC. The
Speaker 2: guys like you know, Rory or Ricky, like they come
Speaker 2: out of that and even Scotty, I think Scotty's in
Speaker 2: the same They feel like it was a failure and
Speaker 2: it's like, God, you beat you beat one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty three guys or whatever the number was in the field.
Speaker 2: You just didn't beat one guy. Yeah, and it's a failure.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that makes the sport so maddening
Speaker 2: and probably makes you come back so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they give trip one trophy out. I
Speaker 1: remember on the old show, I used to do. We
Speaker 1: did winners that didn't win every week, like on Mondays,
Speaker 1: because it's so easy to talk about the person that
Speaker 1: won the event, right, I mean, that's we focus It's weird, Andy,
Speaker 1: I mean we focus on you know, you and Brinnan
Speaker 1: do this on Mondays, right, you talk about who won,
Speaker 1: and then come Wednesday, when you guys do the podcast
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, you're over it. It's not a conversation anymore. Right,
Speaker 1: You're not bringing up the person that won. But those
Speaker 1: celebratory moments for the dude that shot sixty six in
Speaker 1: the final round or Rory who gets another top three
Speaker 1: in a major championship. It doesn't feel like a victory
Speaker 1: to those Yet there are things to celebrate. I mean,
Speaker 1: does Scotty run we're on. I know Kyle Porter's been
Speaker 1: pounding this on Twitter, but this run he's been on,
Speaker 1: we should be celebrating it, even though he's not taking
Speaker 1: home the trophies because the play is so incredibly consistent
Speaker 1: and he's beating almost everybody in the world. He's just
Speaker 1: coming up short against one or two names every time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy. It's just him his golf. I think,
Speaker 2: like I always think about what Tiger used to talk about,
Speaker 2: and it was always about consistency. And right now he's
Speaker 2: on a run that's very Tiger like. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's piled up the winds, but he's been so close.
Speaker 2: But like, the consistency here, like beating basically everybody in
Speaker 2: the field outside of a couple of people every single
Speaker 2: week for a year almost now is insane. One last thing,
Speaker 2: I just have to commend the met I'm looking at
Speaker 2: the schedule.
Speaker 1: And it's unbelievable, dude.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a combination of the clubs and
Speaker 2: the Golf Association living somewhere where, like we're playing state
Speaker 2: ams at public golf courses and when I was playing
Speaker 2: in Chicago and basically, you know, just disappointing tournament venues.
Speaker 2: It is unbelievable to see a golf association and the
Speaker 2: clubs in it appreciate amateur golf and professional golf at
Speaker 2: the met Open level. I mean, so just running through
Speaker 2: you just played it at Brooklawn, Great aw tilling Hasse
Speaker 2: course in Connecticut. You got the met am. As you
Speaker 2: said at Friar's Head in the discussion of greatest modern
Speaker 2: golf courses ever built, you know, and then you've got
Speaker 2: the met Open at Arcola that got rave reviews during
Speaker 2: the us AM last year. I mean, you just go
Speaker 2: through this and it's just unbelievable where you play. You
Speaker 2: got the mid Am at Country Club of Fairfield. I
Speaker 2: mean it's awesome. It's awesome to see a golf course
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm envious of I think, like the
Speaker 2: thing people realize don't think about it, like I'm envious
Speaker 2: of the juniors, and you talk about like what a
Speaker 2: great environment and great great tournaments to grow up and
Speaker 2: cut your teeth on. You know, like if you get
Speaker 2: a kid that qualifies for that Medam who's sixteen and
Speaker 2: you get go play Friar's Head for a few days,
Speaker 2: that's going to prepare you and you're going to take
Speaker 2: away so much from that experience. So really cool, really
Speaker 2: cool Golf Association. And props to all the courses for sharing.
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good point, Andy, is the golf courses.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I'm a member of Brookline, but to
Speaker 1: see how proud you know, are head pro and a
Speaker 1: lot of the members that were a big part of
Speaker 1: the week, how proud they were of the event and
Speaker 1: being able to host it, and how it feels very big,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I was obviously getting an opportunity
Speaker 1: to broadcast a lot of the USGA Championships for a
Speaker 1: few years. And every time you go to a us
Speaker 1: Junior or a Girls Junior or a Curtis Cup, I mean,
Speaker 1: these events feel enormous to the club because they're so
Speaker 1: proud to be able to host them. And these MET
Speaker 1: events feel very very similar for both the MET and
Speaker 1: the golf courses that are hosting. So yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Shout out to them, and also shout out
Speaker 1: to their social team. They do an unbelievable job of
Speaker 1: like photos and videos and storytelling. It's easy not to
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Speaker 2: the Ryder Cup that's this year, right. Yeah, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like I feel like with everything going on in
Speaker 2: golf with I didn't really want to talk about the
Speaker 2: framework with you know, but which isn't a ton of
Speaker 2: you know, new stuff, but like with everything going on
Speaker 2: in golf in a weird way, if he looks like
Speaker 2: the Ryder Cups kind of under the radar right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels a little bit like Colin Morroccou at
Speaker 1: Majors right now, where you're like, oh yeah, more cows
Speaker 1: in the field. You know. I just feel like you
Speaker 1: never really hear his name brought up in preview stuff
Speaker 1: and uh oh yeah, it's a Ryder Cup year it's
Speaker 1: in Italy. Here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So with that in mind, you know, we're we're
Speaker 2: kind of in crunch time. I feel, you know, again,
Speaker 2: we got one major left and we got the FedEx
Speaker 2: Cup and then the teams are picked, so you know,
Speaker 2: really like not a lot of guys are going to
Speaker 2: be playing in these next coming weeks. I mean, the
Speaker 2: Scottish Open will be a big event. And I think
Speaker 2: that there's questions on each team, big looming questions for
Speaker 2: each team, and it's you know, you think about where
Speaker 2: we left Whistling Straights. We left Whistling Straights like the
Speaker 2: US team's never gonna lose one of these, you know again,
Speaker 2: that's what everybody say and how we get to this point.
Speaker 2: And I think, like you look at it, and I
Speaker 2: think the last year in a way has been a
Speaker 2: little bit more friendly to the Europeans than the US team.
Speaker 2: And I'm just curious what your thoughts are on that
Speaker 2: over arching thesis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was kind of going through both
Speaker 1: squads because I mean, I don't know if you I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have lists written down. I mean it looks
Speaker 1: like to me, it feels like ten guys are kind
Speaker 1: of on the American team and the European team is
Speaker 1: a little bit more up in the air. The interesting
Speaker 1: part about the European team is I was going into
Speaker 1: kind of dissecting both squads. I felt like this European
Speaker 1: team is an extreme underdog, right, kind of going into
Speaker 1: what we're thinking about. And as I started to dive
Speaker 1: into it, I feel like there's a little bit more
Speaker 1: fun if you were the European captain in terms of
Speaker 1: how you could put your team together. It feels almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, the maybe the American squad from eight years ago,
Speaker 1: where Jordan was popping up and Ricky was kind of
Speaker 1: on the radar, yet there were still some veterans you
Speaker 1: could piece together. And so I feel like if you
Speaker 1: asked any golfan who's going to win this nine out
Speaker 1: of ten are going to say the Americans. But I
Speaker 1: feel like there's an opportunity here for this European squad
Speaker 1: to just be a little bit more fun and a
Speaker 1: little bit younger. I didn't expect to see this potentially
Speaker 1: young European team that we might see, you know, in
Speaker 1: a couple of months in Italy, versus a little bit
Speaker 1: more experience on the American side, which in my opinion
Speaker 1: experience in the Ryder Cup and President's Cup has proved
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more overrated over the last
Speaker 1: you know, ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there's a little bit of when
Speaker 2: youth brings you're almost naive, right, and it brings like
Speaker 2: a exuberance and energy to team room. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the things with the with the
Speaker 2: Europeans was they had those that great stalwarts you know
Speaker 2: past you know, the the guys that anchored so much success.
Speaker 2: But as they got older, I think they they kind
Speaker 2: of were more wrestling on their laurels here. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, to start, I mean, I think the big
Speaker 2: question with the European team, and we can start here
Speaker 2: is who fills out the roster? How do they go
Speaker 2: about filling out this roster? To me, there are seven
Speaker 2: without a doubt, locks, without a doubt, probably eight if
Speaker 2: you but seven are rom Rory Hoveland, Hatton Fleetwood, Shane Lowry,
Speaker 2: and Matt Fitzpatrick. And I think you throw Justin Rose
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have, I had I had Rose on mine
Speaker 1: that that was the exact list. I have A play
Speaker 1: is automatically going to be on this team unless somebody
Speaker 1: gets injured. And so basically there are four spots up
Speaker 1: for grabs, and when you look at those four names, Andy,
Speaker 1: it is an extremely European group of players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like, I think, like, you know, the
Speaker 2: thing here is like what sometimes what makes a great
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup player isn't necessarily like who's the best player
Speaker 2: in the world. Like obviously that's a very easy way
Speaker 2: to look at it. But like, one name that I
Speaker 2: think is going to be on the team is Adrian Murunk.
Speaker 2: You know what Adrian Mrunk does. He makes a shit
Speaker 2: ton of birdies. You know, that's good in match play.
Speaker 1: Which plays well and match yees like one of the
Speaker 1: number one the stats that we always look at, you know,
Speaker 1: if you look at how they do in the match
Speaker 1: play in Austin, throw that out. We've obviously realized that
Speaker 1: that's not proved to be any any sort of a
Speaker 1: kind of an inaccurate read of who's going to be
Speaker 1: successful in Ryder Cups. But if you make a lot
Speaker 1: of birdies that always plays, it plays very well because
Speaker 1: one of the formats Andy, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: knew this is best score wins the hole and birdies
Speaker 1: win a lot of holes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's interesting. So like if we
Speaker 2: start to just go down some names, I have some
Speaker 2: names written out here. You got Merunk, you got Victor Perez.
Speaker 2: Janick Paul is the third points.
Speaker 1: He's on the team. He's if it ended now, Yanick
Speaker 1: Paul would be on the team. He is. I did
Speaker 1: some notes on a Andy. He has played in two majors. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: in his career. He's twenty nine, he's one hundred and
Speaker 1: first in the world. He's played. I would say, fine,
Speaker 1: this year would be the term I'd use to present
Speaker 1: his resume. He's got three top three finishes and four
Speaker 1: top tens for the season, and he's won once on
Speaker 1: the DP World Tour, and that is it. And again,
Speaker 1: if we picked teams right now, he would be on
Speaker 1: the squad.
Speaker 2: He's so just so everybody knows, he's third on European pointsless.
Speaker 2: So the way the Ryder Cup works is three from
Speaker 2: the right, the European pointsless, three from the world points list.
Speaker 2: So he is on the team. I do know like
Speaker 2: a little bit of Yannick Paul. Fact he absolutely obliterates
Speaker 2: the golf ball, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but I mean, Andy, can I say this, that's
Speaker 1: just something you just say about everybody now, Like when
Speaker 1: you talk about anybody that's under the age of forty
Speaker 1: five as a professional golfer, they all hit it hard,
Speaker 1: they all hit it far. Like nobody's bunning it around.
Speaker 1: I feel like anymore. I mean, yeah, he can kill it,
Speaker 1: but I mean he.
Speaker 2: Sees Maybe he'll say he bounce it, but yeah, he
Speaker 2: might be bouncing around a little bit. Chez the Travelers
Speaker 2: was the week for the for the bunters.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a it's a bunch spot. It's a lay
Speaker 1: it down the third base line and see if you
Speaker 1: can outrun it. I mean it squeezed the guy over
Speaker 1: to you know, squeeze him over. Let's just sacrifice bun
Speaker 1: it all day long and make your birdies. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was wondering about this with you because you and
Speaker 1: I always joke about the FedEx Cup and how we
Speaker 1: don't understand what a point means, or like I saw
Speaker 1: you on Twitter, like how many points does that need?
Speaker 1: What is two seventy? What is three hundred? Like nobody knows.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they don't just make one FedEx
Speaker 1: cup point the same equivalent of a dollar. It makes
Speaker 1: no sense to me, But I feel like the European
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup team is trying really hard to be slightly
Speaker 1: more complicated than a FedEx Cup.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I think almost every points. I mean,
Speaker 2: what about the race to Dubai.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tavis dot Cup was confusing? Like why is everything confusing?
Speaker 1: Why can't we just when you go to If you
Speaker 1: go to Rydercup dot com right now and you click
Speaker 1: on the European standings, there are two things you have
Speaker 1: to click between to see who's gonna qualify, And the
Speaker 1: weird part is the players that qualify on the European
Speaker 1: points list aren't highlighted on the world points list, which
Speaker 1: then your way You're like, wait, oh no, Rory's wait,
Speaker 1: he's on the team, but he's not. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so strange. I don't understand how this isn't simplified. Feels
Speaker 1: like it should be a very very easy process. But
Speaker 1: again I digress all the time.
Speaker 2: With GOL, We're gonna get some Europeans that are saying
Speaker 2: it's not that complicated, but it is. It is complicated.
Speaker 1: We're a couple of idiots, probably just for everybody out there,
Speaker 1: so we don't.
Speaker 2: Know one thing about the FedEx Cup, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to die on this hill. And I think the problem
Speaker 2: we've had this, We've had the FedEx Cup for so long,
Speaker 2: and I think the problem is is that the PGA
Speaker 2: Tour hasn't ever explained it. Like there's never been a
Speaker 2: framing of what two hundred and seventy points is. Like
Speaker 2: if you threw a couple examples out, like two hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy points is four top tens or two hundred
Speaker 2: seventy here's a couple of ways that Zach Blair could
Speaker 2: get to two hundred and seventy points. You know this
Speaker 2: was this is a whole basis of this thing. It's
Speaker 2: like ZB needs two hundred and seventy points to retain
Speaker 2: his card in an eight starts. Well, like, give people
Speaker 2: some examples of how two hundred and seventy points is
Speaker 2: IERD right.
Speaker 1: Is that impossible or is that like relatively attainable? Does
Speaker 1: he need two top twenties in a top ten? Or
Speaker 1: does he need to win three events? Like I I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to tell you that in a million years.
Speaker 1: I feel like now that ZB did it, I now
Speaker 1: kind of understand that second alone in a designated event
Speaker 1: would have got him to that point. But even finding
Speaker 1: onlineing and he took me multiple Google clicks, like when
Speaker 1: I was kind of doing that, it was hard to find.
Speaker 2: So anyways, like this is you need to make this
Speaker 2: like currency, right, Like if you said to me, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you four thousand of Kenya's currency, I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't know what that is. If I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you four thousand of whatever Kenya's currency is,
Speaker 2: I would be like, Okay, that's great. I have no
Speaker 2: clue what that means, you know. But if you said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you four thousand of Kenya's currency and
Speaker 2: that's equivalent to x amount of American dollars, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: oh great.
Speaker 1: Right, it's called a I looked it up. It's a
Speaker 1: Kenya shilling, and one Kenya shilling is zero point zero
Speaker 1: zero seven to one dollars. All you gotta do is
Speaker 1: you type that into Google and it tells you right away.
Speaker 1: Imagine if that was just the simplified version of golf rankings.
Speaker 1: But again, this isn't. I don't think this conversation was
Speaker 1: meant to be FedEx Cup confusion. But I do laugh
Speaker 1: very hard when I pulled up the European standings last
Speaker 1: night and went, there are two tabs here, what is happening?
Speaker 2: Yes, So there just needs to be conversions associated with this.
Speaker 2: You have to you have to make this approachable for
Speaker 2: the lay person, right totally. So I covered the start
Speaker 2: and people are like, it's embarrassing you don't know what
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy FedEx Cup points is. And somebody
Speaker 2: said that to me, it's embarrassing that you don't know.
Speaker 2: Is it embarrassing for me? Is it really embarrassing for me?
Speaker 2: Or is it embarrassing for the for the the person
Speaker 2: that that administers the FedEx Cup points, who's it might
Speaker 2: be embarrassing for me. I think it's more embarrassing for
Speaker 2: the fed Ex Cup. You know, I have a general
Speaker 2: idea that like five hundred points goes to first, three
Speaker 2: hundred ghosts to second, Like I know that, but I
Speaker 2: don't know anything past like the top three, and.
Speaker 1: You don't know which events those fall into. I know,
Speaker 1: we were talking about the European team and you know
Speaker 1: we just got down derailed. It's okay, now we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back so the I feel like a big part
Speaker 1: of what's gonna happen over the next couple of months
Speaker 1: with the European side is the decision for Luke Donald
Speaker 1: to go young or to go old. Because we saw
Speaker 1: the last Ryder Cup, the decision was to go old,
Speaker 1: it was to go veteran. And I feel like you
Speaker 1: can either lean heavily into going young, and it can
Speaker 1: feel very much like that Ryder Cup what ten years
Speaker 1: ago where Ricky was picked and you know, I remember
Speaker 1: what was it. Ryan Moore was on the team. Like
Speaker 1: that felt like Americans were trying to go young. And
Speaker 1: you can go with experience or you can go with youth.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, at least I think you would
Speaker 1: probably agree with this. It feels like it makes way
Speaker 1: more sense to go young, if no other reason than
Speaker 1: to give these players a little bit of experience considering
Speaker 1: the last four spots are so up for grabs, and
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're Louke Donald, you have a
Speaker 1: serious case to lean into Padrick Harrington as a pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's fifty one years old, he's played five Bomb Tour evins. Listen,
Speaker 1: he's played five PGA Tour events this year. He's made
Speaker 1: all five cuts. He had a top ten at the
Speaker 1: Texas Open, tied for twenty seven to the US Open.
Speaker 1: He's played seven events on the Senior Tour. He has
Speaker 1: a win, two seconds, five top fives, and you stole
Speaker 1: my line about bombing and andy. He's averaging three h
Speaker 1: four point five yards per drive on the Champs Tour.
Speaker 1: That would have him tied with Tony Fenow on the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour at fifty third in driving distance. He hits
Speaker 1: it plenty far. He's obviously been playing some excellent golf.
Speaker 1: He still puts all the work in the world into it.
Speaker 1: So you could go Padrick Way and you could lean
Speaker 1: into maybe Sergio, or I think you go Ludwig and
Speaker 1: Dumont des Chazzart and you just let him at least
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a experience here and see
Speaker 1: if they can play on that type of stage, because
Speaker 1: it feels like they can at this pointing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, you have to think Marunk
Speaker 2: and Victor Perez are probably going to be on the team.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's ten. That's ten, So there's two spots left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think to your to your point, like
Speaker 2: Sergio is a big question. It seems like Rory and
Speaker 2: him have mended some fences in the last two weeks.
Speaker 2: I think, like Sergio, of all the guys that went
Speaker 2: to Live you got Thomas Peters and Sergio are the
Speaker 2: two that would be potential picks. And I think Sergio
Speaker 2: is the one, like you're talking about arguably the greatest
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup player of all time, and.
Speaker 1: I mean him and MANI I would say, honestly, it's
Speaker 1: between him and I think callin Montgomery.
Speaker 2: And I think I think like you could probably put
Speaker 2: in there too.
Speaker 1: Alter in there. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just
Speaker 1: funny that all of all the names that come to
Speaker 1: minded Europeans.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not JJ Henry.
Speaker 1: No, No, Brett Wedder.
Speaker 2: But uh the that's the thing. Like, I think that's
Speaker 2: like the first big question, right, and if you if
Speaker 2: you take Sergio, then it you know, it kind of
Speaker 2: leaves like one spot, right, Yeah, I mean maybe Onick
Speaker 2: Paul qualifies on points too. Like I think like the
Speaker 2: back half of this is like I think Marunks, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think you're you know, maybe Victor Perez you
Speaker 2: could qual him about whether he's in or not. But
Speaker 2: Moronk's probably in. I think he's done a lot his
Speaker 2: body of work. He's forth in the European Tour points list.
Speaker 2: So they you Sergio is a big question, and I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to do it because like,
Speaker 2: what has he done?
Speaker 1: He's done nothing? And I think that the other question
Speaker 1: is and again, I think what's worked so well for
Speaker 1: the Americans as of late in these team events is
Speaker 1: where's the continuity to the team. And I'm not necessarily
Speaker 1: talking about the pod system. I'm just simply thinking who's
Speaker 1: playing with whom? Right, if you're Sergio and you look
Speaker 1: at Rory and Rom and that's kind of the list
Speaker 1: in my opinion on who would play with them, and
Speaker 1: you go, are you guys, do you guys want Sergio?
Speaker 1: Because to me, and we'll get to the Americans in
Speaker 1: a minute, but to me, the American side is kind
Speaker 1: of co captain by Jordan and Justin. That's what it
Speaker 1: feels like over the last few years. And I feel
Speaker 1: like if you're leaning on the European side, they're probably
Speaker 1: doing something similar with Rory and John. Who do you
Speaker 1: guys want? Who do you guys want to play with?
Speaker 1: And does this make sense for the betterment of this team,
Speaker 1: because if we've learned anything in sport, it's chemistry matters.
Speaker 1: And we've learned anything on the Ryder Cup, especially more
Speaker 1: than the President's Cup is chemistry is so important for
Speaker 1: the team room. And I mean I mean Jordan, Speeth
Speaker 1: and Scotty were on No Laying Up with Sally the
Speaker 1: other day and Jordan almost laughed when Sally asked the
Speaker 1: question about the first Ryder Cup team room he played
Speaker 1: in versus what they saw at Whistling Straits, because the
Speaker 1: dynamic is so different. These guys want to have fun,
Speaker 1: they want to enjoy each other's company. They don't want
Speaker 1: any drama, like you're not gonna see Patrick Reed and
Speaker 1: Bryce and probably any on any of these teams ever
Speaker 1: again because they simply just don't want that drama in
Speaker 1: the team room. And on the European side, who's gonna
Speaker 1: play with whom and who's the most comfortable pairing up
Speaker 1: And if there's not a teammate, if you will for Sergio,
Speaker 1: then he's not on the team.
Speaker 2: Well I would I would say, based off of John
Speaker 2: Rahm's comments, that would be you know, maybe Sergio is
Speaker 2: on the team just because to appease Rom he wants
Speaker 2: him on the team, right, He's talked about it, you know,
Speaker 2: he wants Sergio on the team. The problem is he's
Speaker 2: not in Europeans to remember anymore. He's got these fines
Speaker 2: they paid a fair allegedly or it might be Westy
Speaker 2: with the fines, but but either way, the you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's an interesting situation, right Sergio, I think is
Speaker 2: probably it's a fascinating conundrum that they're in. And you know,
Speaker 2: do you damage your chemistry if you don't have him
Speaker 2: the team because Ram's unhappy?
Speaker 1: Right? You know?
Speaker 2: I think there are some other like there's always these
Speaker 2: great Spanish pairings, and probably it's probably a little bit
Speaker 2: too much as made of those. You know, you have
Speaker 2: some other you have a Jage Compio and Laratha Ball
Speaker 2: and Otagway, all those guys have played pretty well. You know,
Speaker 2: those could be guys that fill in that void of
Speaker 2: the second Spanish player. I don't know how important that
Speaker 2: really is. I think Alex Norn is another one name
Speaker 2: that is is out there if you went older, I
Speaker 2: it's it's interesting a few other young names that you
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned, and I think like here's a question like
Speaker 2: do you go with like if you want to go youth,
Speaker 2: do you go with Aberg or Adrian Dumont de ch Sart.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, Adrian's playing on the corn Ferry Tour.
Speaker 2: I think that's like a very heart. I don't think
Speaker 2: that that's a feasible selection. Like again, in the European Tour,
Speaker 2: membership is the other component of it. Ludwig, I mean,
Speaker 2: unless he does something remarkable, you know, I think we
Speaker 2: need to just like reset on on Ludwig. Let's just
Speaker 2: think about what John Rahm did in his first few starts.
Speaker 2: What you know what Kylin Morrikawa and I think holand
Speaker 2: holand an interesting comparison is he is that like Hoveland
Speaker 2: had to you know, he went to corn Ferry finals, right,
Speaker 2: but like Ludwig has a card right, this wasn't available
Speaker 2: to other great ams that were coming out, right.
Speaker 1: He's a hard comp because of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Scotty had to go to the korn Ferry
Speaker 2: Tour and he played great on the corn Ferry Tour.
Speaker 2: But Ludwig has an interesting but he has you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's played well, but he hasn't done anything like
Speaker 2: if we see him go Gangbusters. I think you could
Speaker 2: pick him because, like, has he done anything remarkably better
Speaker 2: than the hoguards? Has he done anything like Thomas Deetree's
Speaker 2: been a really solid player for a couple of years
Speaker 2: on the European Tour and now the PGA Tour player
Speaker 2: is he you know, is he markeably better than those guys?
Speaker 2: If you want to go young right right now, you know,
Speaker 2: he might be in a year or two, he might
Speaker 2: be right now better. But like, I think that's a
Speaker 2: big question mark. And obviously then you hit on Harrington.
Speaker 2: That's like I mean, I think that's they could go
Speaker 2: young or old. Your your question is a great point.
Speaker 2: What would you do? Would you go young? I?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I would pick Podrick just because he's
Speaker 1: been playing excellent golf and I just feel like you're
Speaker 1: putting him in a position to have one last run
Speaker 1: at something substantial and I just could see him leaning
Speaker 1: heavily into that. If we've learned anything about Padrack Carrington
Speaker 1: in his career, he's played very, very well at the
Speaker 1: biggest of stages, and I feel like he's trending in
Speaker 1: that direction. I remember asking h I remember asking longer
Speaker 1: this a couple of years ago, on T said do
Speaker 1: you think you could still play a Ryder Cup? And
Speaker 1: he said absolutely. You know, these guys still believe in themselves.
Speaker 1: The one issue is speed distance, and Podrick hasn't really
Speaker 1: lost much of that, and he's been incredibly consistent on
Speaker 1: both tours. I just feel like that stuff carries over
Speaker 1: and I could see him being I could see him
Speaker 1: playing with like Shane Lowry, you know, and them going
Speaker 1: out there and like being scary together. You know, he's
Speaker 1: not going to be intimidated by the young players, and
Speaker 1: imagine I think.
Speaker 2: There's actually like an impact of like if he's out
Speaker 2: there like beating JT. That's demoralized saying like I can't
Speaker 2: beat by a fifty one year old.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking, is like the Americans are
Speaker 1: so young, Andy that you're playing a fifty one year old,
Speaker 1: and it throws the dynamic off. I remember years ago
Speaker 1: I was playing a club championship and I was playing
Speaker 1: match play and the guy was playing against made bogie
Speaker 1: on this hole and I'd hit it about three feet
Speaker 1: above the hole for birdie, okay, three footer, and he
Speaker 1: didn't give it to me. Now I have the two
Speaker 1: putt for par to win the hole, and I remember
Speaker 1: it really being kind of screwing with my brain because
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, have you ever had the
Speaker 1: two pot of three footer? And I kind of tapped
Speaker 1: it and it rolled down and it stopped on the
Speaker 1: lip and he gave it to me. And I remember
Speaker 1: thinking of myself as I walked to the next tee,
Speaker 1: that was brilliant by the guy I was playing, because
Speaker 1: it made me change the way I was thinking on
Speaker 1: the golf course at least for a moment. And if
Speaker 1: you're justin Thomas and you're on the seventh pole and
Speaker 1: you're two down to Padrick Harrington, it's not just that
Speaker 1: you're two down to somebody on the European team. It's
Speaker 1: your two down to a guy that's playing on the
Speaker 1: Champs Store. And I'm with you. I think that does
Speaker 1: a lot different things that if he's two down to Ludwig.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I agree, It's just there's something there.
Speaker 2: I think that there's like two invigorating spirits. Right, if
Speaker 2: you go youth, there's like an energy there. But I
Speaker 2: think that there's equally an energy for a fifty one
Speaker 2: year old if they're playing because they know it's their
Speaker 2: last one and they hasn't done it in a long time.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, Like you worry about Westy's nerves out there,
Speaker 2: but I don't think you have to worry about like
Speaker 2: the old nerves of Harrington just from everything we've seen.
Speaker 2: I mean he almost people forget he finished like fourth
Speaker 2: at Q right.
Speaker 1: Two years ago at the PGA, he was like in
Speaker 1: the hunt. I mean it was unbelievable. I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: obviously focuses on Phil because he became the oldest major winner,
Speaker 1: but Patrick was right there. I have a bonus European
Speaker 1: Tour question for you, Andy, all Right, what do you
Speaker 1: think Mullinari has to to get.
Speaker 2: Picked kind of win like an event in contending with
Speaker 2: three others.
Speaker 1: He has to win the Open. I think if he
Speaker 1: wins the Open, he gets in. He's been terrible. But
Speaker 1: I'm assuming when this was announced they really felt like, yes,
Speaker 1: he would probably make the team.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about four years ago it was I
Speaker 2: had down here like who's gonna be the Ryder Cup darling?
Speaker 2: And it's like last year or last Ryder Cup, it
Speaker 2: was Scotty Scheffler, right, he was the darling and it
Speaker 2: just launched him. I think it was, you know, probably
Speaker 2: helped him launch into this player he's become where he's
Speaker 2: he's crazy. John ROMs won five times this year, and
Speaker 2: I think the general sentiment is sky Scheffler is the
Speaker 2: best player in the world, right right, It's insane. It's
Speaker 2: absolutely nuts that that's the case. That's where we are
Speaker 2: with golf. But you know you have to, I think
Speaker 2: you go tie it back. And and it's funny because
Speaker 2: like you know, Rom's four has gone four. I think
Speaker 2: it was four and oh and then he's you know,
Speaker 2: he's the only hope. He's out early and he just
Speaker 2: gets absolutely steamrolled by Scheffler. I mean it was I
Speaker 2: think he was four down through four. I remember that
Speaker 2: was the match. I was out watching and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what is going on?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And uh, and I think, so you go that and
Speaker 2: then if you go to the next Ryder Cup Darling
Speaker 2: In France, it was Mollywood, it was Fleetwood, mal On Artwood.
Speaker 1: Did they they were were they undefeated or was one of.
Speaker 2: Them under I think they both were. I think one
Speaker 2: of them tied if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1: Okay, but in one of them because because DJ was
Speaker 1: five and oh last Ryder Cup and that was like
Speaker 1: one of the few times that's ever happened. But I
Speaker 1: think both of them are like you said, I don't
Speaker 1: think either of them lost a match.
Speaker 2: I think they had played four matches, though I think
Speaker 2: they sat out one. So I think that's the most
Speaker 2: fascinating thing. The bottom part of the European roster is
Speaker 2: the fascinating aspect of it. If we want to transition
Speaker 2: over to the US team, I don't think it's quite
Speaker 2: as interesting, agreed, because I think that like, it would
Speaker 2: be really interesting, It would be fascinating if there weren't
Speaker 2: these like built in He's an auto pick because of
Speaker 2: who he is. But that's I think, and I think
Speaker 2: like what's maybe the compelling aspect of the US team
Speaker 2: is the fact that they are they becoming what they
Speaker 2: kind of evolved from. Are they turning? Is history repeating itself?
Speaker 2: And is it this built in buddies club? Because it
Speaker 2: feels like that you have locks. I have written down
Speaker 2: our Scheffler, Wyndham, Clark, and Brooks Kopka that are one
Speaker 2: through three in the standings. I just four through six
Speaker 2: are Xander, can't Ley and Homer. I think those guys
Speaker 2: are locks pretty much, would you agree with that?
Speaker 1: I only have whether I have one. I have one
Speaker 1: name of that list that I could potentially see not
Speaker 1: being on the team. But I'll get into that in
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 2: And then we go to like the next seven through twelve.
Speaker 2: Is Keegan who has two wins in the in the
Speaker 2: season and has been really consistent. Uh Speith, who is
Speaker 2: a lock. There's no way he's going to finish in
Speaker 2: the top twelve in points and not get picked. Agreed,
Speaker 2: Cam Young not playing great, but in the in the
Speaker 2: points discussion, you know Sam Burns who won the match
Speaker 2: play this year. JT and Morikawa are eleven and twelve
Speaker 2: on the bubble in terms of top twelve and points.
Speaker 2: But again, there's no way JT doesn't get picked, even
Speaker 2: though he has not played good golf this year. And
Speaker 2: then you go into the into the rest of the list,
Speaker 2: like the next few guys in points, Denny McCarthy playing
Speaker 2: career year, different not gonna, not gonna be on the
Speaker 2: different style player, best putter in the world, Kurt Kidiyama,
Speaker 2: great year, Ricky Fowler interesting fifteen, Harris English, Tony Finow.
Speaker 2: And then I just threw in here DJ.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So even though even though DJ is behind Phil
Speaker 1: in terms of the point list, I think Phil's thirty
Speaker 1: two in Dustin's thirty three. I have I have ten
Speaker 1: names that I'm confident will be on the team.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see him.
Speaker 1: I've got Scheffler, Wyndham Brooks as the ender, her Max
Speaker 1: can't lay speech, JT, Moricow, and Dustin.
Speaker 2: I think DJ's on the team.
Speaker 1: I think DJ will be on this team. I think
Speaker 1: most likely is going to be on the team. But
Speaker 1: my first question I wrote down, you've already hinted on it,
Speaker 1: you've already touched on it a bit, Andy, But my
Speaker 1: first thing was how much power does Justin and Jordan
Speaker 1: really have, because again, it feels like they're the captains
Speaker 1: if you will, or playing captains, or however you want
Speaker 1: to word it. They've taken over for the Tigers in
Speaker 1: the fields of the year of the American side, and
Speaker 1: for JT, it's about do you feel confident in your
Speaker 1: own game enough to say I deserve to be on
Speaker 1: this team because he's played one good tournament basically in
Speaker 1: a year and a half, and that was the PGA
Speaker 1: he won last year. And then how much power do
Speaker 1: these guys have. You know who else they'd probably like
Speaker 1: to have on this team is Ricky Foule. He's apparently
Speaker 1: their friend, and Ricky's played great and he's sixteenth on
Speaker 1: the points list, And if Jordan and Justin have the
Speaker 1: amount of power that I think they have in terms
Speaker 1: of picking this team, I think Ricky will be on
Speaker 1: the team if he plays even decent golf at the
Speaker 1: Scottish in the open. Right, So that's eleven names that
Speaker 1: I basically have. I have one spot up for grabs
Speaker 1: with the Kegans and the burns Is and the Youngs
Speaker 1: and Fenale and Harris English because again I think Dustin's
Speaker 1: gonna eventually make this team. And maybe you disagree with that,
Speaker 1: but I think the questions A is j T playing
Speaker 1: good enough golf to where he can go up to
Speaker 1: Zach and go I I can make this team and
Speaker 1: be an impact because right now he's not impactful. This
Speaker 1: game is not heverything's down.
Speaker 2: He's eleventh on the points list and he's there because
Speaker 2: of last year's PGA, right right, I.
Speaker 1: Mean that it's it's because of one event he won,
Speaker 1: which is an enormous event, a major championship, But it
Speaker 1: was a year. It was over a year ago, and
Speaker 1: if you look at his finishes, they have been either
Speaker 1: weak or extraordinarily weak, especially in the big time events.
Speaker 1: I'm obviously not counting, you know, playing Wealth the Travelers
Speaker 1: when you know it's not really a tournament that we're
Speaker 1: going to kind of put next to the barometer of
Speaker 1: what it means to play well in the biggest events.
Speaker 1: It hasn't didn't really feel necessarily like the designated events
Speaker 1: that we saw a riv in the waste management, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: I mean, j T the only stat that he's done
Speaker 1: well in this year is around the greens, which probably
Speaker 1: lends to the ball striking being down right. I mean,
Speaker 1: the ball striking has been very poor. He's driving it worse,
Speaker 1: The iron play isn't there, He's not putting it great.
Speaker 1: He has a fourth place finish in Scottsdale thanks to
Speaker 1: a final round sixty five, finished tie for tenth at
Speaker 1: the ball Spar and tye for ninth at the Travelers.
Speaker 1: That doesn't scream to me Ryder Cup player, But again
Speaker 1: Justin and Jordan, it feels like run the team. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of up to Justin and Jordan to me,
Speaker 1: if a Justin makes the team and be if Ricky
Speaker 1: makes the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. And I think, like,
Speaker 2: you know, look at Denny McCarthy, who's probably on the
Speaker 2: outside looking in, and you look at his year. Right,
Speaker 2: he had a he was leading pebble late. It was
Speaker 2: fourth place there T fourteen at Genesis, T thirteen at
Speaker 2: the Players Big Events. He had a T eight at
Speaker 2: the Wells Fargo, another designated event where he is playing
Speaker 2: really well. Finished second at the Memorial, almost won that
Speaker 2: obviously lost in a playoff, had a chance to win
Speaker 2: there T seventh last week at the Travelers, T twentieth
Speaker 2: at the US Open. You know, like that guy has
Speaker 2: played great golf and I think one of the things
Speaker 2: that he does he brings to the table for the
Speaker 2: team is a different type of player. Now, like this
Speaker 2: is where the Americans. I don't I don't want to
Speaker 2: say that they're in trouble, but I do think there
Speaker 2: is this this disease of becoming who they This is,
Speaker 2: this is something that happens in society. Is like you know,
Speaker 2: you you don't want to become your father or your
Speaker 2: you know whatever, but you end up becoming your father right,
Speaker 2: And I think that's something that that happens is like
Speaker 2: this whole system they displaced, and you know, it's more
Speaker 2: merit based. It's not the old Buddies club that is
Speaker 2: the the thing that seems to be what this is
Speaker 2: going to turn into with with the current regime in place, Right,
Speaker 2: you have these effectively figurative placeholder captains that are the
Speaker 2: same captains over and over and over again. And then
Speaker 2: you have the people calling the shots, which are Jordan
Speaker 2: and JT, which you know to be completely like, honest,
Speaker 2: aren't two of the players that are are both of
Speaker 2: them aren't going to make it as a lock auto pick,
Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless one I'm wins, they opened there, they're
Speaker 1: going to be captain's picks. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: So it's just a it's a fascinating aspect to and
Speaker 2: I think like one of the things that's interesting when
Speaker 2: you look at the American team after Whistling Straits, it
Speaker 2: was like these eleven guys, it was basically eleven guys
Speaker 2: in Harris English.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, you and I talked about this. You and
Speaker 1: I talked about this. We said, I mean, everybody's leaning
Speaker 1: into this. This is going to be the team again,
Speaker 1: and three or four of the names aren't to be there,
Speaker 1: like Tony Fenale is likely not going to be on
Speaker 1: this Ryder Cup team, Harris English is not going to
Speaker 1: be on.
Speaker 2: This rider, Bryson isn't going to be on the on
Speaker 2: the Ryder Cup. And I think Bryson was like a
Speaker 2: big part of that team, Like he he had some
Speaker 2: moments that were like when he I'll never forget. I
Speaker 2: was sitting next to Steph Curry and he tried to
Speaker 2: drive what is it the thirteenth hole at uh Whistling Straights.
Speaker 2: He drove it into greef side bunker. Steph Curry was
Speaker 2: going nuts. And then on Sundays like driving the First
Speaker 2: Green or was it Sunday Singles, drove the first.
Speaker 1: Made the podcast.
Speaker 2: Like he had these big moments, and I know that
Speaker 2: that he didn't party with the team. He was immediately
Speaker 2: going to long Drive. Just kind of bonkers, bonkers two
Speaker 2: years ago stuff with.
Speaker 1: Bryson skipping that. Imagine skipping that party. Imagine deciding to
Speaker 1: skip that party. You want to go get more reps
Speaker 1: in on the long Drive. It's like, no, man, like
Speaker 1: the priorities are mixed up. Here bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so anyways, like you know, this is the thing.
Speaker 2: It's it's what we see every year, like you get
Speaker 2: this year, we got locked in. It's like, oh, this
Speaker 2: top ten in the world rankings, this is what it's
Speaker 2: gonna be. It's like, no, it's not. It's going to change.
Speaker 2: When nobody had Wyndham Clark on their bingo card of
Speaker 2: Ryder cup Lock and now he's there right and and
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna get what's fascinating is what if one of
Speaker 2: these guys that we have out win's the open? What
Speaker 2: if you know, I don't think this is gonna happen,
Speaker 2: What is Harris English Win's the open? Then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden it puts more pressure on like you know,
Speaker 2: JT or Sam.
Speaker 1: Burns to do something at any point. Now we meant
Speaker 1: by the way we mentioned the Locks, and I think
Speaker 1: you and I had the same list my one and
Speaker 1: I said there was a name on there that I
Speaker 1: could see potentially not making the team in terms of
Speaker 1: chemistry issues, and that's Patrick Cantley. I mean again, going
Speaker 1: back to Jordan and j T running the show, I
Speaker 1: mean I wonder if Kntley could kind of get like
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Sam's Burns is from that Walker Cup team
Speaker 1: where Sam Burns was collegiate Player of the Year and
Speaker 1: then doesn't get picked for whatever reason, which seemed insane
Speaker 1: at the time obviously, and then we've seen what Sam
Speaker 1: Burns has done. But if Kantlay is not an automatic pick,
Speaker 1: and more of these stories come out about him doing
Speaker 1: whatever the hell he's doing. And if you haven't read
Speaker 1: the Am and Lynch article, I urge you to go
Speaker 1: to golf week dot com and read it. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, these people don't want the drama, man like,
Speaker 1: they don't want drama in the room. And when you
Speaker 1: think about live players right now, the two that we
Speaker 1: listed Brooks being on the team, and I think it's
Speaker 1: it's likely he's gonna be on the team if not
Speaker 1: a Lock and Dustin, who I think is gonna be
Speaker 1: on the team. Those dudes are not drama based. They're
Speaker 1: gonna come in there and they're gonna want to play golf,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna want to win, and they're gonna want
Speaker 1: to hang out with the dudes and they're good to go.
Speaker 1: But if can't Lay's in there, and there are some
Speaker 1: people that are questioning what he tells people or if
Speaker 1: they can trust him. I'm just saying if he's seven
Speaker 1: or eight on the list, maybe they leave him off.
Speaker 1: If if one of those players win the open and
Speaker 1: there's not as many available.
Speaker 2: Spots, well, And I think that's the thing, right, is
Speaker 2: like that's where that power of JT and Jordan lies.
Speaker 2: Like Xander and can't lay over the last three years
Speaker 2: have been better player like JT has bigger wins, but
Speaker 2: Xander and Cantley have been just consistent top six players
Speaker 2: in the game. And I think that's the where I
Speaker 2: see a hard time where I envision it very difficult there.
Speaker 2: I don't think Cantley could be removed from the team
Speaker 2: just in general with where he is right now, just
Speaker 2: simply because the Xander pairing is just automatic, right, It
Speaker 2: is a but.
Speaker 1: Andy, but Andy, didn't we feel like that with Reid
Speaker 1: and Jordan and then eventually ran its course, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it was like, well, these.
Speaker 2: Guys are these guys are friends though, that's the difference, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, like one of the guys that the the
Speaker 2: read speeth pering was being held hostage, Jordan.
Speaker 1: Every team event was going, oh god, I gotta do
Speaker 1: this again, why don't we keep winning matches?
Speaker 2: But you know, the other two are like vacationing together.
Speaker 2: And that's where I think, like you know what you
Speaker 2: said earlier about pairings, right that that's just a pairing
Speaker 2: with with what you said about Sergio, who's gonna play
Speaker 2: with Sergio if he if you put him on the
Speaker 2: team with this, with this, it's Xander Cantley are just
Speaker 2: like an auto And one of the things that's unique
Speaker 2: about them, that's not a pairing that you switch for
Speaker 2: alternate shot or for for best ball, right right, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a just send them out there and play.
Speaker 2: And they were really good and and you know, so
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think, like Cam Young, Sam Burns,
Speaker 2: if these guys do anything in the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: how do you not pick them?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think I'd lean more towards
Speaker 1: Burns than Cam Young right now, just because the way
Speaker 1: Cam has played this year. But yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know the problem is, and this is a good problem
Speaker 1: to have, you're Zach Johnson, is that, like we said,
Speaker 1: there's basically eight or nine names that are there, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're just not gonna switch. So it's all about
Speaker 1: shuffling the final two or three, and a lot's gonna
Speaker 1: be decided in the next few weeks. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think in terms of this Ryder Cup team for both sides,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be as important and open headed into
Speaker 1: a Ryder Cup as we've had in a long time,
Speaker 1: because if you go out there and play, if you
Speaker 1: go out there and do something, you might just play
Speaker 1: your way onto this team, especially if you do if
Speaker 1: you play two good weeks, like if you play well
Speaker 1: the Scottish and then roll that into the open and
Speaker 1: you're kind of like a Harris English type of player.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Andy, I could totally see, and you're
Speaker 1: rolling yourself into this because it's like, hey, there's if
Speaker 1: you're Zach Johnson, you just send a text out to
Speaker 1: five guys and go, I'm gonna pick one of y'all,
Speaker 1: So go out and prove something to me on the
Speaker 1: golf course these next three weeks.
Speaker 2: Do you know what klin Markawa is in the world rankings.
Speaker 1: Isn't it like sixteen or seventeen twenty? He's twentieth, So
Speaker 1: do you don't you don't think he's a lock on
Speaker 1: the team. Do you think he makes the team.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the one that I think
Speaker 2: JT is a lock because of who he is. Okay,
Speaker 2: my question would be around Markawa, like we you talk
Speaker 2: about you know, since since the Genesis, he had thirteenth
Speaker 2: at the Players, a tenth at the Masters, but then
Speaker 2: you know, since then it's been thirty first MC, twenty six,
Speaker 2: twenty ninth WD with the back fourteenth at the US Open,
Speaker 2: cut at the Travelers, right, Like I it's a fascinating aspect,
Speaker 2: like Klin Morkawa, sophinaw who's further down, He's fourteenth, right,
Speaker 2: Klin Marikawa is closer to Kurt Kitty Yama, and he's
Speaker 2: the same distance away from Brian Harmon in the world
Speaker 2: rankings as he is from Tony finaw xal Taurus, who
Speaker 2: hasn't played all year. I saw thirteam.
Speaker 1: I was looking at this last night. It's so wild
Speaker 1: that he's thirteen and played at golf.
Speaker 2: I mean Brooks Koepka, who's played like three events that
Speaker 2: count is twelve, Like you know, it's just I think,
Speaker 2: like the question for the US team is are they
Speaker 2: going to become what they what they what they resisted
Speaker 2: against what this era of player fought against, and then
Speaker 2: that immediately goes to JT and Morikawa.
Speaker 1: It's and the interesting thing, Andy is, going back to
Speaker 1: what we said about Whistling Straits, it was Morikawa and Dustin, right,
Speaker 1: and they were this dominant team, and they're two players
Speaker 1: that you could easily leave off the team and it
Speaker 1: not be some crazy thing that Zach decided to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just haven't played the type of golf
Speaker 1: that's worthy in theory of a pick. You'd be picking
Speaker 1: them more for who they are and their names and
Speaker 1: their Wikipedia pages over what they've actually done in the
Speaker 1: golf course the last couple of years now. For Dustin,
Speaker 1: I rolled Dustin out there similar toly what you said
Speaker 1: about Moroc. Dustin's gonna make a lot of birdies, and
Speaker 1: Dustin typically finds game at these types of events. For
Speaker 1: more Cowi, it's maybe bigger question marks just simply because
Speaker 1: it hasn't seemed like the consistency in the game and
Speaker 1: what he's good at has been there in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how do you pick? How do you
Speaker 2: pick Mori Kala Overkegan or JT over Keegan? At this point,
Speaker 2: I know, there's no way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it a Ryder Cup team or is it
Speaker 1: a like a buddy boys club? Yeah right, I mean
Speaker 1: that's the questions. The problem for Zach is Zach's kind
Speaker 1: of in the boys club, you know, So like Zach's
Speaker 1: the guy probably in those text chains, you know, and
Speaker 1: he's probably you know, playing a lot of golf with
Speaker 1: Jat and hanging out with you know, the group that
Speaker 1: is going to push for certain names over other names
Speaker 1: like Rick.
Speaker 2: The US team's very compelling, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the European teams has got a lot
Speaker 1: of question marks and it's going to be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what kind of you know, extreme they go with.
Speaker 1: And the American team is going to be Are you
Speaker 1: basing it off of play in twenty twenty three? Are
Speaker 1: you basing it off of who the player is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It's the new theory has always been like recent
Speaker 2: four gang guys that are playing great golf and this year,
Speaker 2: unless something drastically changes that, it would if you went
Speaker 2: with that, it would lead to a big shake up
Speaker 2: in the in the team room and maybe some people
Speaker 2: that would have their feelings hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's part of it, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: what is the what is the whole what is the
Speaker 1: whole line everybody likes to lean on, like play better,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you want to argue about this
Speaker 1: in a players only meeting. Play better, you don't agree
Speaker 1: with the designate events. Play better? And if you're on
Speaker 1: the outside looking in in terms of qualifying spots, play
Speaker 1: better golf. And the problem is is the guys that
Speaker 1: have played better golf this season that a ride around
Speaker 1: six and seven might not get picked because they aren't
Speaker 1: PIP level golfers, right.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, it's all right. I think that's a
Speaker 2: good spot to stop this discussion. We're still months out,
Speaker 2: but it is is is coming up quick. So Shade,
Speaker 2: where what do you got going on? You just you
Speaker 2: mentioned you had a pod with Zach on get a Grip,
Speaker 2: anything else you got cooking?
Speaker 1: I got a series coming out with Scratch in the
Speaker 1: next couple of months. We went to Wisconsin did a
Speaker 1: Caddy series. That'll be fun doing all the corn faery stuff.
Speaker 1: So I think our next event is the Utah Championship.
Speaker 1: That's early August. I get to work with James Nitties,
Speaker 1: who is the man, Haley Hunter, and Gary Christian Doll
Speaker 1: on the golf course. So yeah, I love doing the
Speaker 1: KFT stuff. I know you were fired up for the
Speaker 1: first one we did because Adrian one and I know
Speaker 1: you were circling that on the on the schedule if
Speaker 1: he could go out there and contemp, and he wins
Speaker 1: it in the playoffs. So corn Fairy's awesome. I love those.
Speaker 1: We play lot of golf in Jacksonville those weeks as well,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of a double dip fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Thanks for coming on and we'll talk
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Speaker 2: is in Colorado. That event is in August mid August.
Speaker 2: If you want to look for that, go to the
Speaker 2: Frida Egg dot com and across the top there's an
Speaker 2: events tab you can find all the information there. Common
Speaker 2: Ground is a great Renaissance golf design golf course. Tom
Speaker 2: dok and Renaissance did it. And it's the week of
Speaker 2: the us AM. We're working with the USGA now on
Speaker 2: getting ticket options free tickets for anybody that comes, so
Speaker 2: you'd be able to go either Saturday, which is the
Speaker 2: final four, pretty good day to go watch golf at
Speaker 2: Cherry Hills, or the day before that, which would be
Speaker 2: the kind of round of thirty two, another scintillating day
Speaker 2: of golf. So thank you guys for listening, and we'll
Speaker 2: be back next week with more from the Friday Egg.
Speaker 2: We've got a bunch of US Women's Open stuff and
Speaker 2: pubble content, so check that out. Thanks, and we'll talk
Speaker 2: to you next week