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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I am

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Speaker 1: your host Movie Mike. Today, I want to share with

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Speaker 1: you eight eighties movies that I think needs sequels. They

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Speaker 1: deserve them because in the movie review, we're talking about Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice,

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Speaker 1: a movie that finally got it sequel, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you the recipe for it actually working and not

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Speaker 1: feeling like a cash grab. In the trailer park, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about Sonic the Hedgehog three and low key why

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Speaker 1: it is the best video game adaptation out there right now.

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Speaker 1: It even brought Jim Carrey out of retirement, so we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that. Thank you for being here, thank you

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Speaker 1: out to a Monday morning movie crew.

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Speaker 2: He Now, let's talk movies.

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Speaker 3: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast,

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Speaker 3: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like

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Speaker 3: never before in a movie podcast. A man with so

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Speaker 3: much movie knowledge, he's basically like a walking IMTB with

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Speaker 1: With the release of Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, I wanted to share

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Speaker 1: with you my top eight eighties movies that I think

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Speaker 1: need sequels.

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Speaker 2: And I know what you're saying. We're gonna suspend a

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Speaker 2: little belief right here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna destroy the narrative of the people who say

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Speaker 1: that everything is a sequel, everything is a remake, that

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Speaker 1: Hollywood has no original ideas. Right now, I can see that.

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Speaker 1: I look at the movie list coming out every single year,

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Speaker 1: do see a lot of sequels. I don't necessarily always

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Speaker 1: view that as a bad thing. I think we need

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Speaker 1: things that feel familiar. And for me, somebody who just

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Speaker 1: looks out at wanting cinema, wanting theaters to succeed, wanting

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Speaker 1: them still to be around, I am down for anything

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Speaker 1: that gets people going to the theater. Beatle Justice, Beatle

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Speaker 1: Juice had a great opening weekend that I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people weren't expecting because it's a cold classic.

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Speaker 1: It isn't a cash cow that everybody's just automatically going

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Speaker 2: So I think that is surprising.

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Speaker 1: The recipe I see here and what is different to

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Speaker 1: me from other just random eighties movies that get thrown

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Speaker 1: original director is attached to the remake, I don't see

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Speaker 1: an immediate red flag. You either need that or you

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Speaker 2: The example I use with.

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Speaker 1: That is Tom Cruise with Top Gun two that came

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Speaker 1: But then, of course twenty twenty happened and held onto

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Speaker 1: And the only third way I really see it working

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Speaker 1: much like Beetlejuice, that making a sequel to it will

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Speaker 1: a lot of eighties influence in twenty twenty four. Let's

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Speaker 1: The reason I feel that this movie needs a sequel

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Speaker 1: character named Lucas played by Corey Heim, which how more

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Speaker 1: And he played this character named Lucas, who was a

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Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen was in the movie. He tried to protect Lucas.

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Speaker 1: But in the eighties and nineties, there was this category

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Speaker 1: And I would say for a Lucas two, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: the plot line of the music video You Belong with

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Speaker 1: All That, She's All That. You could flip Lucas somehow

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Speaker 1: Lucas too. That is why I want to see that movie.

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Speaker 1: Give Me Part Two. This is a movie that I

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Speaker 1: an amazing cast. You had Waylon Jennings in this movie.

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Speaker 1: There, and then all the Sesame Street characters trying to

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Speaker 1: Was a teenager, it's like, oh, I should get into

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Speaker 1: talk shows because maybe my dad was some day listened

439
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Speaker 1: to my show.

440
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Speaker 2: I don't know that he ever has.

441
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Speaker 1: We're not on in the city where they live, but

442
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: it was seeing Sylvester Stallone had that relationship with his

443
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Speaker 1: son and then doing the arm wrestling. I mean when

444
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: he would flip that hat, turn it backwards to take

445
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: it over the top. It doesn't get more Eighties than that.

446
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: And you think about Sylvester Stallone where he is right

447
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: now in his career. If he could do a movie

448
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: like Samaritan on Amazon, which was a trash movie, a

449
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 1: movie I thought was going to be good about him

450
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: being a superhero going into hiding. If he still has

451
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: it in him to do a movie like that, he

452
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: definitely has a movie like Over the Top two. If

453
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Speaker 1: he's still out here doing Expendable six, seven, eight, nine,

454
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: and ten, why not give us an Over the Top two.

455
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Speaker 1: And it's probably not one of his most renowned movies

456
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Speaker 1: of his career, obviously known primarily for the Rocky movies.

457
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Speaker 1: But Over the Top, Oh, that is right there in

458
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Speaker 1: my heart above all those movies, just because I have

459
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Speaker 1: such great memories of watching that movie as a kid

460
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Speaker 1: with my dad.

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Speaker 2: So give me that experience again.

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Speaker 1: Let me take my dad to the theater, who does

463
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Speaker 1: not like going to the movie theater. I don't think

464
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Speaker 1: he has ever sat through an entire movie at the

465
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Speaker 1: theater without falling asleep. My dad gets a drink, gets

466
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Speaker 1: a popcorn, and that is all the time you have

467
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Speaker 1: him for in that movie.

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Speaker 2: As soon as he takes that.

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Speaker 1: Last sip, as soon as he eats that last colonel

470
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Speaker 1: of popcorn, he is down for the count. He is

471
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Speaker 1: going to sleep. Maybe makes it fifteen twenty minutes in

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Speaker 1: a movie.

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Speaker 2: But if Over the Top two came.

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Speaker 1: Out in theaters, give me that experience of being able

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Speaker 1: to take my dad to watch something we bonded over

476
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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, that he can see himself

477
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Speaker 1: in a character, see a truck driver being portrayed in

478
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Speaker 1: a cool way. Give me that experience. Sylvester Stallon'll make

479
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Speaker 1: it happen. Over the Top two is on my list

480
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Speaker 1: at number three of eighties movies. I believe need to

481
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Speaker 1: have a sequel at number two. If you didn't want

482
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Speaker 1: to turn this podcast off after number four because of

483
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: what I picked, you're probably gonna want to. Now this

484
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Speaker 1: is going to cause even more outraged than that one.

485
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Speaker 2: The Goonies too.

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Speaker 1: The Goonies came out in nineteen eighty five, and I

487
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: think when I talk to my friends, this is so

488
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: many of theirs just favorite movies of old time. So

489
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: much so that one of my friends is going to

490
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Speaker 1: get married where they filmed or around where they filmed

491
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: this movie because he loves this movies so much. I

492
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: think when it comes to just the most beloved movies

493
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Speaker 1: out of the eighties, it is right there at the top.

494
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Speaker 1: And I think even when it comes to a lot

495
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Speaker 1: of people's favorite movies of all time, this is probably

496
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: top five of movies I hear the most. This one

497
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: and for His Gump are right up there in that

498
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Speaker 1: top five. And I think it's the fact that this

499
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: sequel has been flirted with a lot because you still

500
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Speaker 1: have a lot of the cast still alive.

501
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Speaker 2: Josh Brolin's in this movie.

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Speaker 1: You kind of forget that, but a lot of the

503
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Speaker 1: cast is still around, and they always kind.

504
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Speaker 2: Of like, oh, we could do another one. Yeah.

505
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Speaker 1: Corey Fellman out there performing what I can only interpret

506
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Speaker 1: as some kind of performance art, because he does concerts

507
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: where he is not a great musician. He is not

508
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: a great singer, and I feel that those performances that

509
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I see of him on TikTok are really just him

510
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: messing with the audience doing guitar solos where he's not

511
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: a good guitar player. I've even interviewed Corey Fellman on

512
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: this podcast, and in that interview he felt so different

513
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: to me than what I see him doing out in concert.

514
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: So I have to believe like that is some kind

515
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Speaker 1: of act. I have to believe that if they came

516
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Speaker 1: together and really had the script for a Goonies two,

517
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: that it could work. Nineteen eighty five, we are almost

518
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Speaker 1: at the forty year mark of that movie being released,

519
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: and I think once you get to that mark is

520
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: when you kind of decide do you want to make

521
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: a sequel to that movie with the original cast? And

522
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Speaker 1: I think that could be a thing that hurts us

523
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Speaker 1: ever seeing a sequel or even a remake of Goonies,

524
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Speaker 1: is because they're going to kind of be out there

525
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: and think, why are we not being a part of it?

526
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: Kind of the same thing we experience with the original

527
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: Twister cast not being involved in the Twister sequel, and

528
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Speaker 1: that movie came out in the nineties, and I think

529
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Speaker 1: the difference in those two is Goonies just has this

530
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: more passionate fan base. It's obviously been around longer, but

531
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Speaker 1: I think the Goony means a lot more to a

532
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: lot more people for an entirely different way that it

533
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: would kind of feel a little bit like them doing

534
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: an injustice to the cast that is still around and

535
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: able to do a sequel. But a plus adventure movie

536
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: has a fantastic soundtrack. There is nothing that I would

537
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: change about this movie. And I think with a movie

538
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: like Beetlejuice Beatle Juice coming out in theaters right now,

539
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,239
Speaker 1: I just have those in my head as kind of

540
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: being on that same level as far as what it

541
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: comes to be an iconic eighties movie. So I think

542
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Speaker 1: it could happen. I would definitely be excited to see it.

543
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: It is one that I agree I would be hesitant

544
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: to go see because the first one is so great.

545
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: The first one is perfect. I'm not saying they could

546
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: get it right, but I would at least like to

547
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: see them try. I would like to see that sequel.

548
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: At number two, I have the sequel to Goonies. But

549
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Speaker 1: at number one on my list of eighties movies that

550
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: I want to see a sequel too is Oliver and Company.

551
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Speaker 1: The original came out in nineteen eighty eight, and this

552
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: is historically, I would say, the worst era for Disney.

553
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue what era they are in now.

554
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: But I think they're kind of on the way back up.

555
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: But this was seen as a bad era, not because

556
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: of the stories, but because of the animation. This time

557
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: period was known as the Xerox era and then had

558
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: to do with the type of animation they used, which

559
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: was very cheap because they were trying to make these

560
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: movies faster and more affordable. But as you know, you

561
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: can do something cheap, you can do something fast, but

562
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: you can't do something good. So a lot of the

563
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: animation at this time was seen as being pretty lifeless.

564
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: If you look at some of the art in these

565
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: movies and pay attention, you can see that some of

566
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: it lacks a little bit of attention to detail. There

567
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: are background being reused, there is some lazy design on

568
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: some of the characters because of this Xerox method that

569
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: they were using that was basically just how can you

570
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: make this as fast as possible, get all these animations

571
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: done very quickly, but when you see it on the

572
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: big screen, maybe doesn't have that same warmth and same

573
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: flow that Disney was known to use. So a lot

574
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Speaker 1: of these movies, even though given the time that you

575
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: were born, given the movies you grew up with, you

576
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: maybe have a personal attachment to them, but overall they

577
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: weren't seen as the best and also didn't perform the

578
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: best at the box office. But for me, Oliver in

579
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Company was top tier when it came to the story. Obviously,

580
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: it is a take on Oliver twist. You have the

581
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Speaker 1: cat Oliver, who is the only cat not picking up

582
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: for adoption. The movie starts in the most oppressing way.

583
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: You have Oliver in this box of cats, and one

584
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: by one they all get picked up by other kids

585
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: who want to take that cat home, and Oliver just

586
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: sitting there all excited, waiting for his kid to come

587
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: pick them up. Nobody ever comes for Oliver. What does

588
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: come for Oliver?

589
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: The rain? The rain washes.

590
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: Away his cardboard box and he gets put out into

591
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: the sewer and then gets discovered by a group of

592
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: dogs that are straight dogs.

593
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: They just run the streets singing songs. Why should I

594
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: wool Rah? Why should I care? Billy?

595
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: Joel did not need to go off on this soundtrack

596
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: the way he did, But for some reason he saw

597
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Oliver and Company and thought, I'm gonna make this my

598
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: best piece of work. Ever, I don't even consider myself

599
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: a fan of his music piano man, Ah, you take

600
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: that song out of here.

601
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: I've never felt any emotion from any Billy.

602
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Joel song, but while watching Oliver and Company, I'm singing

603
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: at the top of my lungs throughout this entire movie.

604
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: And I feel that now would be a great time

605
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: to make a sequel because Disney can make up for

606
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: what they did back in the xerox era cutting corners

607
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: just in order to get movies out there. Now with technology,

608
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: you can make this movie look so much better. You

609
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: can get back some of the original voice cast. If

610
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this original or you haven't shown your

611
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: kids all Over in Company, it is on Disney Plus.

612
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. But because of the animation style,

613
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: if you have younger kids who are like, ah, this

614
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: stuff looks terrible, that's trash. They may see Oliver in

615
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: Company and think this looks so old and therefore be

616
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: bored by it. That's why we need to make a

617
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: sequel to it. So make it happen, Disney. But that

618
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: is my list, my top eight movies from the eighties

619
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Speaker 1: I think needs sequels.

620
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Speaker 2: We'll come back.

621
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Speaker 1: I'll give you my spoiler free review on Beatle Juice Beetlejuice,

622
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: and in the trailer park we'll be talking about Sonic

623
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: the Hedghog three. Let's get into it now, A spoiler

624
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: free movie review of Beetlejuice.

625
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Beetlejuice.

626
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Speaker 1: On this episode, we've been talking about legacy sequels. This

627
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: one takes place thirty six years after the original Beetlejuice

628
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: came out in nineteen eighty eight, and in order to

629
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: know where we are going, we gotta know where we

630
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: have been the history of Beetlejuice. It's pretty interesting. Tim

631
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Burton is a very dynamic director. You see a single

632
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: frame of a Tim Burton movie and you probably automatically

633
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: know it's him. He has a very distinct style, dates

634
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: back to his first film that he directed, Pee Wee's

635
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Big Adventure, which I kind of forgot he did. And

636
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: usually for episodes like this, I do a deep dive

637
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: into a director and watch all their movies and rank

638
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: their movies, and maybe another episode i'll do that. The

639
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: reason I didn't want to do that this time is

640
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to torture myself with Tim Burton's

641
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: bad movies. Because he has a pretty wide range really good,

642
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: top tier movies, which I would consider the original Beatle

643
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Juice to probably be his signature movie, the one that

644
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: put him on the map. After that one, he got Batman,

645
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: he did Edward Scissorhan, Batman Returns. I would say in

646
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: the two thousands his quality diminished at least when it

647
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: came to the live action stuff, and depending on what

648
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: version of Tim Burton you like, you could be all

649
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: into his animated movies, which he does really well. I

650
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: don't think he really misses when it comes to his

651
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: animated movies even later in his career, with franken Weenie

652
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: being one of my favorite animated movies in the spooky genre.

653
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: But he's also done movies that I just can't get

654
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: behind the remake of Willy Wonka, but Charlie in the

655
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: Chocolate Factory, I can't stand that movie, Alice in Wonderland.

656
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put myself through that dark shadows

657
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: all that. I didn't want to go back and Rewatch.

658
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: He had a lot of movies, So it was really

659
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice that put him on the map. And the reason

660
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: he got that movie is because Peebe's Big Adventure was

661
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: such a major success, did really well. It had that

662
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: quirky style, a lot of practical effects which he is

663
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: known for, which I love. I talk about that all

664
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: the time. So Warner Brothers saw that and they had

665
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: him do Beetlejuice, which they were able to make for

666
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: only fifteen million dollars. And another thing I just always

667
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: stress is the reason Hollywood loves anything in the horror genre,

668
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: which I really don't classify. Beetlejuice to be a horror movie.

669
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: Dark comedy has the spooky vibes, puts you in that

670
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: spirit of Halloween. But even the original Beetlejuice came out

671
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: in March in nineteen eighty eight, didn't come out around

672
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Halloween time at all. And I will say Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice

673
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: definitely means more into those spooky vibes coming out in

674
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: September leading up to Halloween. I feel like this one

675
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more rewatchable around Halloween because I didn't

676
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: really associate the first one with Halloween, just it becoming

677
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: a cult classic. Even though it had the commercial success,

678
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: it just started to become associated with the Halloween time.

679
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: But they were able to make it for that fifteen

680
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: million dollars and it ended up grossing seventy four million

681
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: dollars at the box office, so a huge hit. And

682
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: then the next year, in nineteen eighty nine, he was

683
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: given Batman, which those first two Batman movies I love,

684
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: And that was at a time where the superhero genre

685
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: isn't what it is today. There was no reference for

686
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: anything really having success at the box office, and at

687
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: the time it was seen as darker and grittier, which

688
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: is wild thinking now that we just had The Batman

689
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: with Robert Pattinson a few years ago and that was

690
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: seen as like the darkest and grittiest one. But before that,

691
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: it was Adam West Surfing, and that was what we

692
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: knew was Batman. But if you look back on those

693
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: first two Batman films with Michael Keaton, those are two

694
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: of my favorites, just because as a kid I watched those.

695
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Time and time again. Batman is in my.

696
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: Top three superheroes of all time. But it has that

697
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: Tim Burton vibe, that Tim Burton energy, a lot of

698
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: practical effects, very dark, and those movies were marketed towards

699
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: the kids, which is kind of the same deal with Beatlejuice.

700
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: The first one was rated PG.

701
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice drops the F bomb in the first movie and

702
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: it's still got a PG rating. There are scenes of

703
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: him looking under trying to get a glimpse under Geena

704
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Davis's skirt, and the movie still got a PG rating.

705
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: Wild what not happen today? Very rarely do you even

706
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: see a movie get a G rating unless it's PAWP Patrol.

707
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Pretty much at minimum Pixar Disney movies, they still get

708
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: a PG rating. Very rare for anything to get AG

709
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: rating because it has to be so squeaky clean for

710
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: that movie to get a PG rating is wild. Would

711
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: definitely be PG thirteen rating by today's standards, which is

712
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: what Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice is because you get the one F bomb.

713
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Interesting thing that this one did. They had the two

714
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: F bombs in there, but the second one was bleeped

715
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: out because you can't say it twice, and you get

716
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: the R rating, and then it definitely changes the genre

717
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: of the movie. You get a handful of S words.

718
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: I think it's three. I don't know if there's a

719
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: strict code on how many you get, but they threw

720
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: those around pretty generous here.

721
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: So it's not a full on family.

722
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Movie, which I think a lot of people associate the

723
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: first one with but it was because of the original Beetlejuice.

724
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: Really why Tim Burton is where he is today. He

725
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: makes movies for a relatively low budget, at least early

726
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: in his career, they made a lot of money.

727
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: Due to the profit margin.

728
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: He really plays into the campy style in that first

729
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: movie and also continuing in this sequel, using a lot

730
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: of practical effects that look kind of cheesy, kind of cheap,

731
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: but that's kind of a style, so it works if

732
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: you were doing it with purpose and intent. It doesn't

733
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: look like you were cutting corners. Because he is able

734
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: to use stop motion and claymation in a way that

735
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: is very creative, very him, very dark, very macabre. So

736
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: it really plays into his style, and that is what

737
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: I like about Tim Burton. So if I were to

738
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: hand pick my favorite Tim Burton films, I would probably

739
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: go back to the original Beetle Juice, his early work,

740
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: the original Beetlejuice, the first two Batman movie movies, and

741
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: then his animated work. I know a lot of people

742
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 1: associate him with The Nightmare Before Christmas, but actually didn't

743
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: direct that movie. It just had his name attached to it.

744
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: So I also love like Franken Weeny, Corpse Bride, pretty

745
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: much anything you could go to hot topic to in

746
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: the late to mid two thousands and get a T

747
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: shirt of like, oh Man, you probably inspired so many

748
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: goth kids fashion choices.

749
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: But that is Tim Burton. So that is the where

750
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: we've been.

751
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Now where are we going with the new Beetlejuice movie.

752
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: This movie takes place thirty six years after the original movie.

753
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: You have a lot of the original cast back, why

754
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: not a rider Catherine O'Hara, who is fantastic, probably had

755
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a resurger just.

756
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: In her career from Shit's Creek. But you also have,

757
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: of course Michael Keaton back as Beetlejuice.

758
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Who you don't have back is Alec Baldwin or Geena Davis.

759
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: The movie does mention their characters a little bit, but

760
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: it's not really revolving around that story whatsoever. And who

761
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: gets introduced Jenna Ortiz as the daughter of Lydia. Her

762
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: name is Astrid. She is very much like Whynoda Ryder

763
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: was in the original movie, Very angsty, very dark. What

764
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: their story is Her dad died, her mom has been

765
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: struggling with the grief and her mom. Lydia is now

766
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: a talk show host where she talks to the dead,

767
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: but her daughter Astrid is upset with her because this

768
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: whole time her career revolves around her talking to the dead,

769
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: she has never talked to her dad.

770
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: She holds that against her mom.

771
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: Also, the beginning of the movie, Lydia's dad dies in

772
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: a very tragic accident, and I laugh as I say

773
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: that is because they do it in a very ridiculous way,

774
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: which is what the Beljuice movies do. There is some

775
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: death in killing. I would say it's a little bit

776
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: darker in this one, but it's very campy. So even Kelsey,

777
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: who really wasn't too interested in watching this movie doesn't

778
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: really like anything Halloween based. I will say it's not

779
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: overly grotesque in any way, because it's all very playful,

780
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: all very fun. There is like some blood splatter, but

781
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: it's nothing you would see in like a slasher film.

782
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: So Astrid is having a very hard time having a

783
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: good relationship with her mom.

784
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: And then you have Beetlejuice's.

785
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: Story, which I love the fact that there's the A

786
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: plot and the B plot, which in the first movie,

787
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: Beatle Juice was only on the screen. I think like

788
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: eighteen minutes out of that entire movie. Michael Keaton definitely

789
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: gets a lot more screen time in this one. He

790
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: is dealing with his ex wife who has come back

791
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: to life and wants to kill him. So how the

792
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: two stories intersect is what makes this movie a lot

793
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: of fun. It's right around an hour and thirty six minutes,

794
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: and I will say I found myself pleasantly entertained throughout

795
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: the entire movie.

796
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: I think it's because I realized it's been so.

797
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: Long since we've had a movie that is just fun

798
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: and quirky. It is such a risk to make a

799
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: movie like this, and it wasn't back in the eighties.

800
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: You could do fun and ridiculous movies. But now I

801
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: feel like there's almost this standard of you can't have fun.

802
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 1: You have to do all these things right in order

803
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: to get people behind your movie.

804
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: And it was nice to see all of the quirkiness

805
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: go up a level.

806
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: A lot of the visuals, which they kept, a lot

807
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: of the practical effects just had this refined style, which

808
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I've been talking about in the episode of how you

809
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: make a movie in the eighties and you make a

810
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: movie now you can just make it look so much better.

811
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: So a lot of the effects look a lot less dated,

812
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: and it was just fun to see a movie be

813
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: ridiculous and to be absurd, and I'm just happy that

814
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: a movie like this can still be made. That being said,

815
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: if this movie was the original movie, would it be

816
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: as a cult classic as big of a hit as

817
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: Beatlejuice would have been in the eighties. I don't think so.

818
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I think storytelling obviously has changed a lot from nineteen

819
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: eighty eight to twenty twenty four, but it just has

820
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: like this different feeling to it. There are a lot

821
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: more beats in the story on this one, which the

822
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: first one was primarily a couple died. They're living in

823
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: their house, they're stuck there and they want the family out.

824
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: They enlist the help of Beetlejuice. This one definitely had

825
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: a lot more going on that felt a little bit

826
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: more like they had more of a script to work with.

827
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: There was a lot more character development, but it did

828
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: just kind of lack the original novelty that the first

829
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: movie had, and I think that's just what you get

830
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: in the legacy sequel. It's obviously not going to be

831
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: as groundbreaking as the first one. So I will say

832
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: why that first one felt a little bit more rebellious

833
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: to see what Tim Burton could get away with, you know,

834
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: making his first really big, career defining movie. This one

835
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: just felt a little bit more corporate, and I think

836
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of movies now, and I could

837
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: kind of see the strings being pulled here and there.

838
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: I still feel like overall he had full rain to

839
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: do whatever he wanted, but it definitely felt much more

840
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: like he was working inside some parameters, definitely kind of

841
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: inside a box that nothing really went outside of. But

842
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: there were some really greatfulfore Michael Keaton as Beetlejuice I

843
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: would say was pretty on par with the original. Although

844
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I kind of feel like Michael Keaton

845
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: just does things for the paycheck.

846
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: Now.

847
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: It still kind of hurts me what he said about

848
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: the Batgirl movie that he was just like, eh, I

849
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: don't care that it never came out.

850
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: I still got paid.

851
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel that he feels that way

852
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: about all the projects he takes on. He's like, yeah,

853
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: I'll do the Flash, I'll be Batman again, I'll be

854
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice again. As long as the check clears I will

855
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: be there. So he gave a good performance. I don't

856
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: think he went over the top to make it great,

857
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: but hands down the best performance to me was Jenna Ortega.

858
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: To me, she just solidified herself with this movie as

859
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: being the go to horror queen. She just has that

860
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: aura about her. She is such a great actor. Really,

861
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: to me, it feels like she believes in all the

862
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: roles she takes on. Even if she does, then she's

863
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: a really great actor convincing this that she does, even

864
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: the press tour she did doing the odes to all

865
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: the costumes from the original movie. She's just fantastic and

866
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: everything I watch her in big Wednesday vibes in this movie,

867
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: which I did, feel like this movie had more about

868
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: Adam's family vibes than it did beetlejuice vibes from the original.

869
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: Then you have one no to Ryder, who I love

870
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: her and stranger things. She's having a big resurgence now.

871
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: I feel from that she looks fantastic. Even the scenes

872
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: that flash back to the original movie, I'm like she's

873
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: hardly aged a bit.

874
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Catherine O'Hara, who.

875
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: Is just I would say the funniest in this movie

876
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: had the best one liners, and I just see her

877
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: as Mira Rose from Shit's Creek, which has also been

878
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: a big part of her resurgence. I mean, she was

879
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: in home alone in the original Beatlejuice. They brought her back.

880
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: She was fantastic. Willem Dafoe, dude has to have the

881
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: best agent in Hollywood. I feel like I've seen him

882
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: three times in three different movies this year alone, and

883
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: he's great in all of them.

884
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: Seeing him do quirky horror is like a plus. Willem Dafoe.

885
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: I loved all the mixed medium, having the stop motion,

886
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: the claymation that we all recognize from the first one,

887
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: and overall was just a really fun film from start

888
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: to finish. But again, since it is a legacy sequel,

889
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: I have to compare it to the first one, which normally,

890
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: when there's a big just iconic movie one of the

891
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: best movies of the eighties, I usually read those movies

892
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: a five out of five. But for me, I don't

893
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: even think the original Beetlejuice is a five out of five,

894
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: even though it's mostly perfect. I would probably give the

895
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: Original Beatle Juice a four point five out of five.

896
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't think the sequel is as good as that one,

897
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: even though it looks a lot better. I just don't

898
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: think that this movie is going to have the same

899
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: impact that that first one did, which would probably be really.

900
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: Hard to do.

901
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: But I do see myself actually being more inclined to

902
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: watch this one around Halloween time because it just has

903
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: that setting, It has that feeling a little bit more

904
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: to me.

905
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: So Juice, Beetlejuice.

906
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: I give it four out of five stripe suits.

907
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie.

908
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: Mike Traylor par.

909
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: Video game adaptations are all the rage right now, and

910
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: they're nothing new.

911
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: We have the Mortal Kombat movies back in the nineties.

912
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: Maybe has some really bad video game adaptations over the years.

913
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: A Street Fighter, Oh what a disappointment.

914
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Mortal Kombat two was pretty bad, but I

915
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: feel like that franchise is back five Nights at Freddy's recently.

916
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: Even though I didn't enjoy that movie, the fans of

917
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: that video.

918
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: Game loved that movie.

919
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: The only movie I've ever been personally attacked. We're not

920
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: liking this year alone. We had Borderlands, which did oh

921
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: terrible at the box office. It all comes down to timing.

922
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: You either have to put out a video game adaptation

923
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: right at the height of that game's popularity. That is

924
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: the reason Borderlands didn't do well. That movie is past

925
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: its prime. And then you also have a cast that

926
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: is so old and not relevant to anybody who would

927
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: be interested in watching that movie. It doesn't match or

928
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: needs to be based in nostalgia, which is exactly why

929
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: I believe Sonic the Hedgehog is low key the best

930
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: video game adaptation franchise right now. It is rooted in

931
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: that nineties nostalgia. Back when there were console wars, when

932
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: it was Nintendo versus Sega. Nintendo had their mascot of Mario,

933
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: very family friendly, fun to play, revolutionary at the time,

934
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: but then you have Sega just wanted to compete. When

935
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Nintendo trying to saturate the video game market, what do

936
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: they do Well, They look at their mascot and think,

937
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: we need our Super Mario. We're going to do something

938
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: different by giving kids a character with some edge, and

939
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: they thought Sonic the Headshot can be our Super Mario.

940
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: But he has spiky.

941
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: Hair, he moves faster, he has attitude, he has an

942
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: edge to him, and when you look at the first

943
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Sonic the Headshot game. It's like whoa, It makes Super

944
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: Mario look like your dad's video game. And then you

945
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: have this blue, fast paced creature running across the screen

946
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: collecting coins. You have cool bosses, and suddenly Sega put

947
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: itself on the map.

948
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: They had the animated TV show, which I believe is

949
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: so good because it.

950
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: Stands apart from the video game, which Super Mario also

951
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: had a TV show. They had a live action show,

952
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: they had an animated show, but I feel like those

953
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: weren't as successful and as memorable without the video game.

954
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: It was only cool because it was like, oh cool,

955
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: stuff from the video game is in the animated show.

956
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: And even the Super Mario Brothers movie Back in the Day,

957
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: although I love that one because I associated with my childhood,

958
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: it's not a great video game adaptation. But Sonic the

959
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: Hedgehog the animated show with Jalil White aka Arcle from

960
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: Family Matters voicing Sonic the Hedgehog, I feel, is its

961
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: own entity even if you didn't play the video game.

962
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: That TV show on its own is a great Saturday

963
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: morning TV cartoon from back in the day, and the

964
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Sonic the Hedgehog movies have somehow captured the energy of

965
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: both that animated show and the video game, and they've

966
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: done it in a really fantastic way.

967
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: I love the way they've incorporated.

968
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: All the elements from the video game into the movie

969
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: without it feeling forced, without it feeling cheesy. But what

970
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: they've really gotten right, Well, a few of the things

971
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: they've really gotten right, But I would say the main

972
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: thing is Sonic actually has a story with emotion in

973
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: this movie in part one, and they even addressed it

974
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: here in Part three. He's an alien who lands on

975
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: Earth and he is alone, and all he is looking

976
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: for is a family. He wants to be a kid,

977
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: he wants to have parents. He searches for that identity. Really,

978
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: Sonic One, it is a lot like Leilo and Stitch.

979
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: Crash lands into Earth, stumbles upon a family. They're kind

980
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: of a broken, not really great family, and he's searching

981
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: for this identity. You have a evil government entity trying

982
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: to find him and exploit him. So a lot like

983
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Leilo and Stitch, to be honest, but you have that

984
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: human element paired with all the great video game elements.

985
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: I love the way they subtly incorporate things from the

986
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: video game. Really when it comes down to it. I

987
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: love how they just subtly work in details like the soundtrack.

988
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: You have those themes, which was a really big part

989
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: of those video games Sega. One of the biggest appeals

990
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: to that as a kid is the music sounded a

991
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: lot better on a Sega than it did on Nintendo.

992
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I had a little bit more of a music, almost

993
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: hip hop feel to it. And the Sonic the Hedgehog

994
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: movies have taken those original songs and worked them into

995
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: the movie with like this really cool instrumentation.

996
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: Some of them were like orchestra.

997
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: And sad and just kind of weave themselves into scenes,

998
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: just tying everything together. So it's very much kind of

999
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: playing on all the nostalgia of everybody who grew up

1000
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: in the nineties playing the video game and now are adults.

1001
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: So I think that is why these movies have worked

1002
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: so well. It's because you have people like me in

1003
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: their thirties who I have kids now and exposing them

1004
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: to Sonic the Hedgehog.

1005
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: They have really great action.

1006
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Each movie has advanced on the animation style, which if

1007
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: you think back to before the first movie was even

1008
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: released and we had the first still a Sonic he

1009
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: had that weird look. He had the human like teeth

1010
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: and the little beady eyes which looked a little bit

1011
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: more accurate to his video game form, but just didn't

1012
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: work on the big screen in three D, and through

1013
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: the outrage of fans, they went back and changed the

1014
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: design of Sonic. They actually listen to people and therefore

1015
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: it worked. So I think that is the reason I

1016
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: feel it is subtly the best video game adaptation right now,

1017
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: and the reason you are seeing so many of these

1018
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: right now when it comes to movies, TV shows like Fallout,

1019
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: it is a hot commodity. The video game industry is massive,

1020
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: and what you have in Sonic the Hedgehog three is

1021
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: the introduction of a new character named Shadow.

1022
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: If you're not familiar with him from the.

1023
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: Video games, he is essentially the evil version of Sonic.

1024
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: They mentioned in the trailer how their origin stories are similar,

1025
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: except where Sonic found family, Shadow only found death and destruction.

1026
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: He was created by doctor Robotnik's dad was also being

1027
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: played by Jim Carrey.

1028
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: In this movie.

1029
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: You have Keanu Reeves voicing Shadow, the new character. So

1030
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff going on so far in

1031
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: Sonic three. It is looking promising Before I get into more,

1032
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: here's a little bit of the Sonic the Hedgehog three.

1033
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 2: Trailer, Sonic, you finally found your family. He is much

1034
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: more impressive than the Hetchhog guy for it previously. Ye dude,

1035
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: I'm standing right here. You're a colorful bunch. We don't

1036
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 2: want to fight you, Actually, Sonic, I would like to fight.

1037
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this, but we need you

1038
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: know who, doctor, we're visitors. This is sad robot Nick

1039
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 2: even for you. We need your help on one condition.

1040
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: So right, The Sonic franchise has really great voice acting.

1041
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: Ben Schwartz is the voice of Sonic. You probably know

1042
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: him primarily from Parks and rec but he really leans

1043
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: into this voice so much so that when I first

1044
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: watched this trailer and heard his voice, I was like,

1045
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: it's slowly becoming a little iconic. And that is a

1046
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: hard thing to do when it comes to creating a

1047
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: character of seeing him and also associating him with a voice,

1048
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: because unlike Super Mario in the video games, who really

1049
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: only said a few phrases here and there, Sonic never

1050
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: really heard him talk except for the animated show. But

1051
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: now more so than Jalel White. I'm associating Sonic now

1052
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: with Bench Schwartz voice. He just has that fun, comedic,

1053
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: almost childlike tone in his voice, and now I can't

1054
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: hear anybody else doing Sonic Justice. You also have Idris

1055
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Elba as Knuckles, who just has a good like, dark,

1056
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: growny voice and fits it perfect. Sonic did face off

1057
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: with Knuckles in Sonic two, but now they're all teaming

1058
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: up along with Tails to take on Shadow voice by

1059
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves.

1060
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves is just so interesting to me on the

1061
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: roles he takes on.

1062
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: He has been kind of flirted with joining the MCU,

1063
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: but hasn't really found the right role. I think he

1064
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: wanted to play ghost Rider, but none of that ended

1065
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: up working out. He was also recently supposed to be

1066
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: in the Star Wars series that Acolyte, but that adn't

1067
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: work out with his schedule, so hasn't joined the MCU,

1068
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been a part of Star Wars, but now is

1069
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: going to be a part of Sonic. So I think

1070
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: there is just something about the charm of these movies,

1071
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: or maybe the payout from doing a movie like this

1072
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: where Hey, I go into booth and record some lines

1073
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: and collect a pretty nice paycheck, I'll do it. So

1074
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: maybe there is that appeal, but there has to be

1075
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: something else because Jim Carrey came out of retirement to

1076
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: not only play Doctor Robotnick again, but also play his

1077
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: dad in this movie. So in the trailer you see

1078
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: an older version of Doctor Robodnick, who is the character

1079
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Gerald who in the video games is the one who

1080
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: creates Shadow, so it looks like they have some kind

1081
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: of reconnection, but he's probably gonna end up discovering the

1082
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Speaker 1: dark secret. And while it might seem all warm and

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Speaker 1: fuzzy of being reunited with your dad, that's probably going

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Speaker 1: to turn badly and then end up fighting each other

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Speaker 1: because it looks like Robotnik is going to team up

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Speaker 1: with Sonic Knuckles and Tails to take on Shadow.

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Speaker 2: But of all the roles to bring back.

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Speaker 1: Jim Carrey out of retirement, this is probably the one

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Speaker 1: I would least expect, although when you look back throughout

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Speaker 1: history of his really wacky and outlandish roles, it really

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Speaker 1: isn't that much far off from an ace Ventura from

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Speaker 1: a mask. I think he really likes roles where he

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Speaker 1: can dress up a little bit, do the super over

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Speaker 1: exaggerated faces. And honestly, like I was talking about with Kenner,

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Speaker 1: Reeves probably pays.

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Speaker 2: Really, really well.

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Speaker 1: But now this is becoming his legacy franchise, a series

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Speaker 1: of movies that actually performs pretty well at the box office,

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Speaker 1: has a pretty solid fan base. So for Jim Carrey

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Speaker 1: to be a part of something now that has relatively

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00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: good positive reviews, maybe that also just feels good to him.

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Speaker 1: So if I could, I would love to get inside

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Speaker 1: his head and figure out why he took this role

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Speaker 1: on Sonic. The Hedgehog three is coming out on December twentieth.

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Speaker 1: The other major movie coming out that exact same day

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Speaker 1: is Mufasa the Lion King. Two really big movies going

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Speaker 1: head to head in the Christmas season. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: If I had to pick a winner in that race,

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Speaker 1: who is going to be number one? I feel like

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Speaker 1: most people would assume that The Lion King has more

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 1: of a built in fan base. The last live action

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Speaker 1: Lion King movie was one of the most profitable movies

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Speaker 1: in the billion dollar club, but I just don't think

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Speaker 1: that demand is there. The same way I feel that

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Speaker 1: most people are a little bit burned by the live

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Speaker 1: action remakes of Disney movies, So I don't think that

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Speaker 1: one is going to live up to the expectations at

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Speaker 1: the box office. I actually think that Sonic three is

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Speaker 1: going to win at the box office because it is

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Speaker 1: just a fun movie. You have the adult and the

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Speaker 1: younger fan base of parents taking their kids to go

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Speaker 1: watch this movie, and I just feel that people are

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Speaker 1: more excited to see the next installment here than they

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Speaker 1: are to go see a prequel slash sequel of a

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Speaker 1: movie that has already been done before. I think what

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Speaker 1: it's really going to come down to is the promotion

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Speaker 1: there at the end. I think you probably also have

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Speaker 1: a little bit more star power with Sonic the Hedgehog

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Speaker 1: three with Ben Schwartz, Idris Elba, Keanu Reeves, James Marsden,

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Speaker 1: and Jim Carrey, if they're all able to go out

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00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: and promote this movie. I think that cast is a

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Speaker 1: little bit more fun and lively than everybody involved in

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Speaker 1: Mufasa the Lion King, because I really don't see Donald Glover,

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Speaker 1: Beyonce or Seth Rogan doing much for that movie because

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Speaker 1: they aren't really part of the primary cast. But I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see how this one shakes out. I

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Speaker 1: love when two movies like this go up against each

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Speaker 1: other because usually one of them chickens out and switches

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Speaker 1: they and it would probably in this case be Sonic

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Speaker 1: because you don't really go up against Disney. It is

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Speaker 1: seen as, Oh, there's no way you can win against Disney.

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Speaker 1: But if there is a year to do it, I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be this year. They've already had a

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Speaker 1: smash hit with Inside Out two. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they can do that again. That was a much more

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Speaker 1: anticipated sequel than Mufassa. So my winner is Sonic the

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Speaker 1: Hitchhog three. I think it's the movie I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: more fun as an adult going to see in theaters again.

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Speaker 2: It is coming out on December twentieth.

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Speaker 3: At That was this week's edition of movie Line Tram

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Speaker 3: or Bar.

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Speaker 1: And that is gonna do it for another episode here

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta give

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Speaker 1: my listeners shout out of the week. This week's listener

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Speaker 1: shout out goes to Christy, who commented on TikTok my

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Speaker 1: video from my episode a couple of weeks ago talking

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Speaker 1: about my movie Pet Peeves. Christy Road, is there an

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Speaker 1: exception for the.

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Speaker 2: Mean Girls bus?

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Speaker 1: This was in response to one of my pet peeves

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Speaker 1: being anytime character gets hit by a bus out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: I always feel like it's a crutch. It's a way

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Speaker 1: to get out of a situation where you have some

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Speaker 1: lazy riding and like, I just need to get rid

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Speaker 1: of this character. Have them get hit by a bus

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Speaker 1: because it comes out of nowhere, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a big shock. But I always just felt like

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Speaker 1: that was a cop out.

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Speaker 2: Ending in the case of Mean Girls.

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Speaker 1: I still feel like it's a bit of a cop out.

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Speaker 1: It's a way too. In the Rain of Regina George,

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Speaker 1: the only thing the use of getting hit by a

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Speaker 1: bus has going for it in that movie is they

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Speaker 1: actually follow it up. It's not the end of her

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Speaker 1: character in that movie, and in that situation, there's actually

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Speaker 1: a bit of a fallout from her getting hit by

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Speaker 1: the bus, the rumor of Katie putting her in harm's way,

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Speaker 1: So there's some.

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Speaker 2: Actual value there.

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Speaker 1: But I still am not a fan anytime a character

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Speaker 1: gets hit by a bus. But thank you Christy for

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Speaker 1: that comment, for asking me that question. You're this week's

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Speaker 1: listener shout out of the week. You listening right now.

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Speaker 1: Hope you have a great rest of your week and

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Speaker 1: until next time, go out and watch good movies and

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you later