Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.
Speaker 2: Ill that for me.
Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for day? Edith state is that?
Speaker 3: Whoo whoom?
Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbe of boys and girls.
Speaker 2: My name is ty That guy over there is Dan Rubinstein. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a bonus verbal that you got tonight.
Speaker 1: It's a Thursday.
Speaker 2: We normally put a show out on a Wednesday. But
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, let's talk about this.
Speaker 1: Why are we doing this? Q and A show? What's up?
Speaker 3: We take our cues from the great Edward James Olomos,
Speaker 3: who familiar with his filmography, Edward James Almos.
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with Edward Norton, but ed you know Edward
Speaker 2: James Almos.
Speaker 1: I have no idea who that is.
Speaker 3: Okay, So he starred in which I haven't seen. But
Speaker 3: he was the star of Battlestar Galactica, which I'm sure
Speaker 3: you've heard of.
Speaker 1: I've heard of.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was this, well, not the star but a
Speaker 3: co star in La Bamba, the Richie Valens story.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, you.
Speaker 3: Know Pada bay la La Bamba yep, yep, he is.
Speaker 3: He is an esteemed actor I think, probably into his
Speaker 3: seventies now, and he had a role which I would
Speaker 3: I would venture to guess seventy one percent of kids
Speaker 3: that grew up in southern California at some point we're
Speaker 3: forced to watch this movie in school, probably in seventh
Speaker 3: eighth grade, and the name of that film was Stand
Speaker 3: and Deliver. And it's about an inner city teacher who tutors,
Speaker 3: or not tutors, but teaches a bunch of kids who
Speaker 3: nobody thought would amount to anything academically leads them to
Speaker 3: big ap calculus. I want to say, scores, very inspiring,
Speaker 3: deep plot right there. I want it's a deep plot.
Speaker 3: It's great, it's inspiring. And we take our cues because
Speaker 3: we now both of us stand and deliver. Okay, we're
Speaker 3: both standing and we're delivering a bonus show.
Speaker 1: Right here.
Speaker 2: I am standing, I'm hopefully delivering. I mentioned this to
Speaker 2: you before we hit record, but normally now I don't
Speaker 2: know about you. Actually I do know about you because
Speaker 2: we've been doing this for ten plus or you're feeling
Speaker 2: twenty two. Yeah no, no, not going tailor swift with this, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you have much of a radio voice.
Speaker 1: Per se. I feel I have the radio voice. Well
Speaker 1: you have the radio voice.
Speaker 2: But just in general, if you meet you, if you
Speaker 2: interact with you outside of our podcasting setting, the way
Speaker 2: that you talk, your cadence, all that stuff, it's kind
Speaker 2: of one to one. There's not much, not much. There's
Speaker 2: not an additional layer if you will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I'm what you see is what you get.
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of like that for the most part.
Speaker 2: I'm the same human and my sensibilities are the same.
Speaker 2: But I do tend to project in a way when
Speaker 2: I'm recording that I wouldn't normally project. Like if CYB
Speaker 2: broadcast that's right, a solid wife Kate were here, she'd
Speaker 2: be downstairs and she would hear me yelling.
Speaker 1: I don't do that in real life. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not that loud, that boisterous of a person in real life.
Speaker 1: So where I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna sit down for turkey sausages and say welcome to dinner, exactly,
Speaker 3: don't do that.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't project in that manner.
Speaker 2: So what I was thinking about in the way over here,
Speaker 2: because it was a long day at the office, as
Speaker 2: I'm sure so many of our listeners have experienced for
Speaker 2: themselves long day at the office, a little, a little,
Speaker 2: just worn down from the week. I am going to
Speaker 2: do my best to go sans radio voice tonight, So
Speaker 2: you're gonna get raw, unfiltered, unfettered tie right from the
Speaker 2: cane plant tonight. I'm going to do my best to
Speaker 2: not project and just give you as authentic inexperience as possible.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna edit anything out. This is gonna be
Speaker 2: raw and unedited. Yeah, this is time I unplugged. Tie
Speaker 2: after dark, verbal after dark. That's what you're gonna get
Speaker 2: here this evening. And furthermore, we haven't done a Q
Speaker 2: and A show in a while. We were doing these
Speaker 2: once a month in the off season. Yeah, if only
Speaker 2: because we had nothing else to talk about, and now
Speaker 2: we had to grow up and mature and all that
Speaker 2: and talk about real life college football stuff. But we
Speaker 2: still do get the questions, and we just wanted to
Speaker 2: get people a bonus show. Actually, they're going to be
Speaker 2: multiple bonus shows coming at you, not just last week,
Speaker 2: but in the weeks to come, and which we can
Speaker 2: get into here in a little bit. But you were
Speaker 2: kind enough to solicit questions from I saw a variety
Speaker 2: of different platforms today.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And this is like the asterisk to today's
Speaker 3: and the rest of the season's bonus Q and A shows,
Speaker 3: which I don't know how bonus they are for announcing them,
Speaker 3: but I'm glad we are announcing them because people can
Speaker 3: expect them and it holds us accountable. The questions that
Speaker 3: we are answering are questions that have to do with
Speaker 3: this season itself. It's a mid season Q which will
Speaker 3: devolve into latter season Q and a's whatever. But we
Speaker 3: got a lot of really excellent questions. But like, hey,
Speaker 3: if you could be any kind of popcorn and you
Speaker 3: and you had to be a popcorn eaten by SEC coaches,
Speaker 3: we will save those.
Speaker 1: The coach questions are the ones.
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that we kind of strike I
Speaker 2: think almost instinctively at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your hypothetical coach questions, We've we've gone a lot
Speaker 3: of directions with those, but we've gotten a lot of
Speaker 3: like I'm moving to a new city, what should I
Speaker 3: do for dating and a new job and apartment. We're
Speaker 3: happy to talk about those type of hypotheticals for us
Speaker 3: and for the but we're going to save those, yeah,
Speaker 3: like February or June. So we're going to attack the
Speaker 3: most relevant to the middle of the season questions that
Speaker 3: have been asked of us today and then also at
Speaker 3: least this week and next week. Do you remember the
Speaker 3: episode is a flashback episode The Simpsons where Homer was
Speaker 3: climbing up to a clubhouse in a treehouse and they
Speaker 3: said it's the No Homers Club. Yeah, yeah, ye, and
Speaker 3: then there was already a Homer and it was no Homers.
Speaker 3: We're doing an only Homer's Club segment at the end
Speaker 3: of these episodes. Today we are going to be joined well,
Speaker 3: I will be joined by Jeff Schwartz, and we are
Speaker 3: going to nerd out about the organ season thus far.
Speaker 3: If you don't want to listen to that, that's cool,
Speaker 3: Just stop the episode and move on with your life.
Speaker 3: Next week we'll be doing some Notre Dame with the
Speaker 3: Notre Dame guests, and you're going to flex those muscles,
Speaker 3: Tye that you've been yearning to stretch so many musya
Speaker 3: and you know it is squat sober Tye. As you know,
Speaker 3: sure coaches with the Scroolers skip leg day, yep, never
Speaker 3: skip leg day, I have real sore standing and delivering
Speaker 3: as we speak. So that's what we're going to do.
Speaker 3: And I'm ready to dive in with some q's and
Speaker 3: a's if you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely the one thing that I would ask though.
Speaker 2: But I'm really going to try to hold true on
Speaker 2: this no radio voice thing.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And you've known me for a long time again, independent
Speaker 2: of the whole podcast thing. If ever, I, if ever
Speaker 2: I slip into radio mode, I want you to just
Speaker 2: go buzz or make some sort of noise, okay, so
Speaker 2: then I can try get level set and kind of
Speaker 2: come back into just normal time mode.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I think the low point of your radio voice, neess
Speaker 3: was when you told Mama h to follow you on
Speaker 3: Facebook fancred Twitter. That was weird and she didn't know
Speaker 3: what you were talking about. And we want the real tie.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the real tie tonight, all right. Just
Speaker 3: make sure that I make sure that I stay true
Speaker 3: to myself. Do you have our our Dave Letterman sound? Uh?
Speaker 1: Hold on talk a little bit while I find it. Oh, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of good questions here.
Speaker 3: We asked four questions from Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, and Soliverbaltgmail
Speaker 3: dot com to which any of those you can always
Speaker 3: send questions.
Speaker 1: But we got a lot of good ones.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of slightly off topic sub questions, but
Speaker 3: I feel like we are we are really going to
Speaker 3: hone in on stuff that is relevant to this season. Also,
Speaker 3: Ty is drinking I believe sparkling water and tonight I
Speaker 3: am drinking a ginger turmeric tea with a little bit
Speaker 3: of honey. Okay, I got it. That is I found
Speaker 3: my instrument.
Speaker 1: Sorry, it took me so long.
Speaker 3: I had to rebuild my sound welcome back. I was
Speaker 3: talking about my tea. Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 2: Congratulations Skippy, you've got mail, You've got mail on the
Speaker 2: solid rubal. That took a lot longer than expected because
Speaker 2: my soundboard app crashed on Sunday morning. When everything else
Speaker 2: crashed for us, so did the soundboard and I've had
Speaker 2: to rebuild it.
Speaker 1: So all the buttons aren't place yet.
Speaker 2: But as often as we can here on the program,
Speaker 2: we try to pay homage, homage.
Speaker 1: To Harver Ballers and whatever questions come in. So here
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 3: That was a little radio voice. It was little radio
Speaker 3: was it right there? I'm sorry, Yeah, a little bit,
Speaker 3: It's okay. First question from Shoeless Sean. This is a
Speaker 3: good entry point. How are you two doing? How are
Speaker 3: we doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like life as as a as an item or just independent?
Speaker 1: What is this question? When someone says, how are interpret it?
Speaker 1: Interpret it?
Speaker 2: How you?
Speaker 1: How you like? How are we doing?
Speaker 3: Let's say how are we doing together? In conjunction, the
Speaker 3: show is doing well? The show is doing well, the
Speaker 3: show continues to grow.
Speaker 2: I feel like, and maybe I can only speak for
Speaker 2: me with this, but I feel like me personally and
Speaker 2: us collectively, we've really been able to dial up our
Speaker 2: personality and bring out more of who you and I
Speaker 2: are just as college football fans. So I think we're
Speaker 2: doing well, and the numbers would seemingly indicate that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we're pinning our ears back and really
Speaker 3: getting after it. I think we are. Shoeless Sean also says,
Speaker 3: do you have any annual autumnal outings away from college
Speaker 3: football season? As we enter into autumn and then we're
Speaker 3: gonna I promise we're getting into colleg football topics. I
Speaker 3: really don't. I'll take this one first. I outings. I
Speaker 3: don't have any kids. I live across the country from
Speaker 3: most of my family. So outings wise, it's just generally
Speaker 3: with Jody with an eye and we keep it pretty simple.
Speaker 3: We will go for walks. You know, we have Central
Speaker 3: Park and Prospect Park obviously, so only a slim amount
Speaker 3: of people can relate to that that are listening. But
Speaker 3: I'm a big outdoors person walking running, you know, I'll
Speaker 3: listen to a podcast while going for a walk. That's
Speaker 3: I'll like a good crisp baar walk. So that's that's
Speaker 3: all I can really offer.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I have an outing coming up this weekend.
Speaker 2: I talked about the five k that I'm going to
Speaker 2: run right that I haven't trained for at all, and
Speaker 2: some folks were asking, like, is it a costume five
Speaker 2: k where you get to run as Captain America or No,
Speaker 2: it's not. It's just a normal race over here in
Speaker 2: Bethlehem that I do every year with my family.
Speaker 1: Which would be cool.
Speaker 2: It's also going to be ti Vember next month, my birthday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's sort of a yearly thing. But no, beyond
Speaker 2: beyond the usual stuff, we got Trick or Treat Night
Speaker 2: coming up. Do you guys do Trick or Treat Night?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We actually just got an email in our building
Speaker 3: to sign up because there are some kids in our
Speaker 3: building to sign up so that they can knock on
Speaker 3: the door and get some candy.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna go big with the candy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that because.
Speaker 3: I want to develop that reputation. I want to develop
Speaker 3: the full size reputation.
Speaker 2: I pulled an all time old man move a couple
Speaker 2: months ago. Now, as it relates to Halloween.
Speaker 3: Would you give away some walnuts?
Speaker 2: No? I thought I probably told you about this, but
Speaker 2: I guess they didn't.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: I was up at Wegman's and I saw and that
Speaker 2: they were offering the big bags of kit Kats, and
Speaker 2: I think the mini Snickers bars. They're offering some kind
Speaker 2: of sale. And I saw this and I was thinking
Speaker 2: back to last year where I didn't have any and
Speaker 2: and I was just caught off guard and had to
Speaker 2: run out and buy a bunch of stuff. And they
Speaker 2: get you through the nose if you buy it late.
Speaker 2: It's like Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: So I went.
Speaker 2: I came home with like ten bags, ten deluxe bags
Speaker 2: of candy because they were three dollars apiece. And I'm
Speaker 2: not kidding. I did this at the end of like July,
Speaker 2: and I came home and Kate said, what the hell
Speaker 2: is that?
Speaker 1: Why did you do this?
Speaker 2: Oh? I guess for Halloween, just so we want to
Speaker 2: be ready, And she's like, you do realize Halloween is
Speaker 2: three and a half months away. And that kind of
Speaker 2: dawned on me that maybe I was I was turning
Speaker 2: into an old man.
Speaker 1: At that point. But I am ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got kit kats and we've got I believe
Speaker 2: it's those Hershey's miniatures.
Speaker 1: So we got a bunch of that ready to go.
Speaker 3: Oh great call, all right, Derek wants to know. And
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some contenders here for you
Speaker 3: to choose from. Okay, biggest surprise so far this year,
Speaker 3: good and bad, and I'm going to I'm going to
Speaker 3: weld this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bend it.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's a malleable enough interpretation, not just good and
Speaker 3: bad but sort of disappointing bummers, really cool things. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give you some options here, all right, yep. So
Speaker 3: these are the good, positive things that have been a
Speaker 3: little bit unexpected. Hawaii six and one Cole McDonald's for
Speaker 3: a ton of yards being already Bowl eligible after our
Speaker 3: really low expectations, Colorado with a down couple of years,
Speaker 3: but certainly surging even after the loss of the loss
Speaker 3: to USC the magnitude of Tua's season, we figured he'd
Speaker 3: be good, not world destroying. What Iowa has looked like
Speaker 3: on offense recently, because we obviously have an immense amount
Speaker 3: of loyalty to Nate Stanley.
Speaker 2: I was told we're in at Iowa show now because
Speaker 2: we haven't provided them two weeks running.
Speaker 3: Is that still that's on you? You set up our
Speaker 3: preview doc.
Speaker 1: I did set up there. I'm you know what it is.
Speaker 2: When we veered strong in the direction of NC State,
Speaker 2: we veered away from Iowa.
Speaker 1: We became pro anti Iowa on this program.
Speaker 3: What's the It's there's some sort of law. Is in
Speaker 3: Newton's law for every reaction, there's an equal and opposite.
Speaker 1: I don't know that would be those two programs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Buffalo and how good their offense has looked in
Speaker 3: a down year for the MAC Buffalo has looked strong.
Speaker 3: And I would say Utah State, Utah State and the
Speaker 3: Mountain West. There are other smaller situations within teams, within programs,
Speaker 3: within conferences, whatever that are interesting in a positive way,
Speaker 3: but those are the ones that I have in a
Speaker 3: positive direction.
Speaker 2: Well, so I would I would push back on the
Speaker 2: to A thing because it might be a surprise the
Speaker 2: heights to which Alabama's gone, but it's still to A
Speaker 2: and it's still an incredible safety net for him playing
Speaker 2: in that system, having all that talent around him, so
Speaker 2: he could he could be even better than he is now,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure it would truly be a surprise,
Speaker 2: not for me. And also on the Colorado front, I'm
Speaker 2: afraid to say that we didn't expect great things from
Speaker 2: Colorado because the angry free range Colorado hate that way
Speaker 2: come away. That's true, as you know from reading the emails. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I compostable. The answer for me is LSU because oh
Speaker 2: good answer. When we did our ama on the subreddit
Speaker 2: reddit dot com slash our slash solid verbal if you're
Speaker 2: playing along at home, I think I said back then
Speaker 2: that LSU is going to go seven and five and
Speaker 2: Coacho was going to get fired. It's it's apparent to
Speaker 2: me that that's not going to happen at this point.
Speaker 2: LSU clearly having a really good year up to I
Speaker 2: think fifth in the latest Top twenty five. Even if
Speaker 2: they fall off from this point four, which I don't
Speaker 2: think is going to happen, it's still is far going
Speaker 2: to exceed those expectations. So for me, for me, I
Speaker 2: think LSU is definitely the good surprise. The bad surprise
Speaker 2: on the flip side. Also in the SEC would be Auburn.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to say I was the highest
Speaker 2: in the world on Auburn, but for Auburn to be
Speaker 2: at this breaking point now, it feels like they're at
Speaker 2: a breaking point with this game this week again, so
Speaker 2: old Miss I picked Old Miss outright, and I think
Speaker 2: you went Auburn if memory served. I should know this
Speaker 2: because we just did the show yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I have Auburn winning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But it just it feels like they're at
Speaker 2: a breaking point. They have not gotten that rushing game
Speaker 2: on track. Jared Stidham has definitely fallen short of at
Speaker 2: least my expectations. So for me, they would be the
Speaker 2: surprise on the bad side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, losing to Tennessee will warp, will warp some minds,
Speaker 3: this iteration of Tennessee, which I think Tennessee will be
Speaker 3: a pretty good program with Jeremy Pruitt, but at this point,
Speaker 3: losing that comfortably at home to Tennessee that gets people's
Speaker 3: eyes popping open like saucers. The other contenders I have
Speaker 3: here because I do obviously have Auburn there, and I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm fully bought in as Auburn. As
Speaker 3: the disappointment, They're definitely disappointing, but their defense has you know,
Speaker 3: when the offense hasn't totally let them down, They've looked
Speaker 3: good for long stretches of this season. I would say
Speaker 3: Wisconsin just with what their defenses look like Stanford and
Speaker 3: that is, you know, a multi pronged explanation with losses
Speaker 3: and Bryce Love just simply not being healthy enough to
Speaker 3: really get there, the offensive line taking a step down.
Speaker 3: Khalil Tate's health, I don't think anybody questions his ability,
Speaker 3: but what Arizona has looked like with Khalil Tate sort
Speaker 3: of just struggling to maintain health, what a pretty.
Speaker 2: What about Kevin someone at Arizona? Yeah, I expected a
Speaker 2: lot more on that front. I would also bolt on
Speaker 2: Michigan State too. Michigan State of course beat Penn State.
Speaker 2: They just went to Penn State, and I know, I know,
Speaker 2: and maybe they're turning a corner. But wow, let's say
Speaker 2: the first five games for Michigan State got me a
Speaker 2: bit underwhelmed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they've worked through their own injury and
Speaker 3: continue to work through their own injury issues. TCU's offense,
Speaker 3: I think is pretty surprising that they haven't been able
Speaker 3: to not even maintain but look somewhere in the neighborhood
Speaker 3: of where they've been offensively with a new quarterback. Everything
Speaker 3: about Louisville is my answer.
Speaker 1: Or I mean, think about the perception of the ACC.
Speaker 3: Right now, it's Clemson and some of Miami, and now
Speaker 3: Miami is losing to Virginia, so it's basically Clemson and
Speaker 3: hopefully they continue to look good with the true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's not a great reputation. It's okay to have a
Speaker 3: one great team and the rest if you're the Pac twelve.
Speaker 3: But the ACC, and especially where the ACC has been
Speaker 3: these past few years, really looking like one of the
Speaker 3: deeper conferences, a really good slate of quarterbacks as recently
Speaker 3: as a couple of years ago. I mean, the ACC
Speaker 3: made Nate Peterman look good. That was fun, and now
Speaker 3: he's a disaster. But think about our perception of the
Speaker 3: ACC right now.
Speaker 1: If Louisville were pretty good, if.
Speaker 3: The defense definitely took a step back, but if Puma
Speaker 3: pass had worked out and they were competitive and fun,
Speaker 3: even if not a hugely winning team, you'd have Clemson, Louisville,
Speaker 3: and maybe to a lesser extent, Virginia Tech and Miami.
Speaker 2: I assume that you're not mentioning NC State because we're
Speaker 2: just assumed to be an NC State podcast this point.
Speaker 3: We are in NC State Park. How could you be
Speaker 3: disappointed with NCACT eight?
Speaker 1: All right, let's do another one.
Speaker 3: So Louisville, Louisville cratering BBG. Can you rank the twenty
Speaker 3: eighteen We've got a lot of people asking a similar
Speaker 3: question the twenty eighteen coaching hires, coaching carousel hires.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's that. Well, we're not gonna want to
Speaker 1: give you some names.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just gonna give you some names, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give you a head to head who you've been
Speaker 3: more impressed with within the context of what they have
Speaker 3: and what they've done and where they appear to be going. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: Joe moorehead and Dan Mullen. You know those two programs
Speaker 3: are related to.
Speaker 2: Of course, you would put those two against each other,
Speaker 2: of course, and they played each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Dan Mullen for me, is the answer.
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe he's starting from a place where he
Speaker 2: had more higher level talent, but there was definitely more
Speaker 2: of a veteran presence for Joe Moorehead and it's taken
Speaker 2: him a little bit to figure it out. I think
Speaker 2: Mississippi State's going to be fine. They've got a big
Speaker 2: game this weekend which we should find out obviously a
Speaker 2: little bit more about the Bulldogs. But for me, I
Speaker 2: just I feel like Dan Mullen has reinstated a sense
Speaker 2: of hope at Florida and that's really what they were missing.
Speaker 2: Felipe Franks has gotten better at quarterback. Yeah, I would
Speaker 2: go Mullen, but Joe Morehead's doing a good job in
Speaker 2: his own right too.
Speaker 3: And that I mean this is, you know, potentially one
Speaker 3: of the most important hires when you're a head coach
Speaker 3: in the SEC. The Todd Grantham higher defensive coordinator has
Speaker 3: looked very good earlier. So yes, I think Dan Mullen
Speaker 3: has done a strong early job for the Gators. Chip
Speaker 3: Kelly against Scott Frost.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I guess I go Chip Kelly. Okay, at this point,
Speaker 2: is it fair to go chip Kelly?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the battle that he has is
Speaker 3: probably a little more uphill because of the division he's
Speaker 3: coaching in at the moment and just the the open
Speaker 3: nature of it. But I like the high I like
Speaker 3: the fit, I like the higher little bit more. The
Speaker 3: thing I'd be worried about a little is recruiting seems
Speaker 3: to be trending in a better direction for Scott Frost
Speaker 3: and Nebraska then for Chip at UCLA. They have not
Speaker 3: really brought in any big, big names. It's been a
Speaker 3: sort of slow role for them. If you're looking into
Speaker 3: the future. So I actually may go Frost here, I
Speaker 3: may go really Frost. Well, yes, I think, I think
Speaker 3: because he is on an ascension, whereas Chip Kelly isn't.
Speaker 3: Necessarily I think I like that the idea of Scott
Speaker 3: Frost shooting star a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean, I think you can make a
Speaker 2: good case for both of them. I probably go Chip Kelly.
Speaker 2: It just seems like they're figuring out the system and
Speaker 2: UCLA within the context of a season. This season is
Speaker 2: playing better, and if they do start to win, if
Speaker 2: he can get more of his guy here at all
Speaker 2: the time, right his guys, if you can get if
Speaker 2: you can get his guys in there, I think we
Speaker 2: could be in a position where, you know, Chip Kelly
Speaker 2: wins a little sooner than expected at you Ceiling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the good news for both of those
Speaker 3: that they have in common is incredibly promising true freshman
Speaker 3: quarterbacks I've thrown into the fire. Yeah, and and there's
Speaker 3: an encouraging situation with both. Finally, we'll end with this
Speaker 3: had to head Jimbo Fisher yep, I'll indulge you. Mario
Speaker 3: crystal Ball, how would you rank their performances?
Speaker 2: I like, I like what Mario crystal Ball is doing
Speaker 2: at Oregon. I like that he is trying to build
Speaker 2: a physical presence up front, something that we talked about
Speaker 2: on the show yesterday, how he's trying to get more physical.
Speaker 3: And trust me, Jeff and I will momentarily okay.
Speaker 2: So I think that I think that's an important step
Speaker 2: that we knew was in crystal Ball's background, but maybe
Speaker 2: didn't expect to see so soon at Oregon. So that
Speaker 2: to me has had an outsided impact on how I
Speaker 2: feel about this comparison. A and M scares me to death.
Speaker 2: They scared me to death. But I think my answer
Speaker 2: here would probably be crystaball by a hair because I'm
Speaker 2: seeing things I didn't quite expect at Oregon. And on
Speaker 2: the A and M side, it just A and M's
Speaker 2: very good, really soon under Jimbo. It's clear that he's
Speaker 2: having an impact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both inherited a good amount of talent on both sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I feel like we should have seen
Speaker 2: this all along at A and M. And it's just
Speaker 2: taken Jimbo half a season here to assemble the parts
Speaker 2: and get them playing the way that they should have
Speaker 2: all along. Whereas Oregon, I didn't expect to see them
Speaker 2: playing physical football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would I measured about crystal ball because
Speaker 3: that Washington game was a probable Washington win. And so
Speaker 3: I'm not fully ready to fully hop on board with
Speaker 3: Oregon playoff contender, even though we got some questions about
Speaker 3: that they're not a playoff contender. They're just not. I
Speaker 3: watched every play of this team. They're not the case.
Speaker 3: For Mario Cristabal, though, is both with what he's done early,
Speaker 3: the level of competition that Oregon has beaten or almost beaten,
Speaker 3: and the same kind of goes for Texts A and M.
Speaker 3: With how competitive they were against Clemson, certainly not competitive
Speaker 3: against Alabama. I'm a little higher on crystaball I think
Speaker 3: right now, just because he doesn't have Alabama in his division,
Speaker 3: just because he has already beaten the class of the division.
Speaker 3: So within that context, I'm going crystal ball. But I
Speaker 3: think Jimbo Fisher should have texts A and M threatening
Speaker 3: double digits pretty consistently.
Speaker 1: My only caveat if I could.
Speaker 2: If Moregan loses this week against Wazoo, I'm gonna switch
Speaker 2: my answer over to Okay, Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 1: You're upfront about it.
Speaker 3: I respect that, all right, Tom f wants to say,
Speaker 3: And no, LSU beats Alabama, so that'd be in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks and wins the SEC Championship, so presumably
Speaker 3: over Florida or Georgia, Notre Dame in Clemson remain undefeated,
Speaker 3: Clemson wins the ACC Championship, what scenario keeps BAMA out
Speaker 3: of the playoff from there? So repeating the mode the
Speaker 3: method by which they got into the playoff last year,
Speaker 3: not winning division, getting into.
Speaker 1: The final four. What would keep them out if they so?
Speaker 3: Okay, so, in this scenario, I'm gonna give you, I'm
Speaker 3: Sorry'm gonna give you a further baseline. LSU is in,
Speaker 3: LSU is in the playoff, they win the s LSU, Right,
Speaker 3: So LSU Notre Dame Clemson, LSU in with presumably one loss,
Speaker 3: Notre Dame Clemson undefeated. Who is that fourth team that
Speaker 3: keeps Alabama out?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, first off, I don't think there is one,
Speaker 2: because I don't think the Big Twelve is getting a
Speaker 2: team in. I don't think the Pac Twelves getting a
Speaker 2: team in. I don't think the ACC is getting a
Speaker 2: second team in there. I wouldn't even know who that
Speaker 2: team would be. I think the only scenario that would
Speaker 2: keep Alabama out would be another loss somewhere on the
Speaker 2: schedule for Alabama. And I don't know if it's going
Speaker 2: to be the week after against Mississippi State, if it's
Speaker 2: gonna be the Iron Bowl the last week of the year.
Speaker 2: But I think in a scenario where they've only got one,
Speaker 2: you don't think an undefeated Ohio State would get in.
Speaker 2: Forgetting Ohio State never mind, yeah, never mind, No Ohio
Speaker 2: State would get in for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say undefeated Ohio State. I would say
Speaker 3: if Michigan runs the table from here and potentially beats
Speaker 3: Oklahoma twice, I totally forgot the Big Ten. That's that's
Speaker 3: how long I know it's been. I know it's been
Speaker 3: a long day.
Speaker 2: I apologize, just redact strike everything from the record that
Speaker 2: I just said.
Speaker 1: I'm not editing it out.
Speaker 3: Send Jim Delaney a telegram. I apologize. Best so undefeated
Speaker 3: Ohio State. Yes, I don't think that's a question. I
Speaker 3: don't think that's a serious question. If Ohio State runs
Speaker 3: the table and beats Wisconsin or Iowa, I guess in
Speaker 3: the Big Ten championship game, although not the most impressive,
Speaker 3: they're taking care of business and they scheduled well. Texas
Speaker 3: running the table, I don't think they will, but if
Speaker 3: they do, it's a bad loss, but probably not. You
Speaker 3: know what's worse. I guess getting murdered by Iowa like
Speaker 3: Ohio State did last year, not getting in or losing
Speaker 3: relatively close to a probably.
Speaker 1: Average Maryland team. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Beating Oklahoma twice is a pretty sizable feather. And then
Speaker 3: I would say Michigan with as if Notre Name runs
Speaker 3: a table and that's Michigan's only loss. That's as good
Speaker 3: a loss as losing to LSU away from home, both
Speaker 3: away from home, and that would then mean Michigan beats
Speaker 3: Ohio State in Columbus, they've already beaten Wisconsin. They would
Speaker 3: then have Michigan State wins and a Penn State win
Speaker 3: and then you know again potentially over Wisconsin again and Iowa.
Speaker 3: I would put Michigan in over Alabama not winning their division.
Speaker 3: If Michigan were to win the Big Ten championship at
Speaker 3: twelve and one.
Speaker 2: If Alabama has one loss and doesn't win the SEC,
Speaker 2: would you put them in over Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: It to me at this point Notre Dame has a
Speaker 3: style point responsibility to me. To my eyes, that mean
Speaker 3: nothing to this process because Notre Dame has what Florida State,
Speaker 3: Northwestern Navy, Syracuse and Yankee Stadium USC I might be
Speaker 3: forgetting somebody, but especially after struggling with Pitt, who by
Speaker 3: the way, is like fully in the ACC Coastal race
Speaker 3: right at two and one, Notre Dame is they now
Speaker 3: have a style point responsibility to me, and if they
Speaker 3: play down consistently, I think pretty hard about it.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting dilemma. I think that's the road the
Speaker 2: conference champions. Yeah, I think that's the real dilemma here.
Speaker 2: And I apologize to everyone for screwing that up. Believe me,
Speaker 2: it has been a failure. Okay, you're good, But a
Speaker 2: one lost Alabama against an undefeated Notre Dame, I think
Speaker 2: is an interesting proposition.
Speaker 1: I'm a Notre Dame fan. Everyone knows that Alabama. It's
Speaker 1: a style point thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's a thing of. I think
Speaker 2: Alabama is a better team. I think there's any denying
Speaker 2: that Alabama's best team in the country. To leave them
Speaker 2: out in favor of really any team, to me is
Speaker 2: doing them a disservice because Alabama is so damn good.
Speaker 2: You got to win the games in the schedule. That
Speaker 2: is a system that we set up here. So if
Speaker 2: they lose, and depending how badly they lose, is all hypothetical.
Speaker 2: Of course, you can make a case for leaving them out,
Speaker 2: but for me, that's a hard sell because I just
Speaker 2: think they're the best team in the country. They're blowing
Speaker 2: everyone out. These games have not even been competitive so far, but.
Speaker 3: We got My favorite question is one we're not going
Speaker 3: to answer, but it's related to that, to what you
Speaker 3: and we just were talking about. And somebody asked about
Speaker 3: Ian books NFL chances and that was my favorite thing.
Speaker 1: Next topic. All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bah. How
Speaker 3: are we doing? We've already answered that question.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: This is from either copper Nick or maybe Copernicuss. It's
Speaker 3: short for but Copper Nick.
Speaker 1: Ten.
Speaker 3: You must build a team that can beat Alabama. You
Speaker 3: can use any player coach from any other team. Who
Speaker 3: do you pick? And I will I will adjust this
Speaker 3: question a little bit too. Last year, our power Richard
Speaker 3: Johnson and I did this with specific units. If we're
Speaker 3: going to build a super team to beat Alabama, where
Speaker 3: would we go with said super team? I would go
Speaker 3: this is me and I'll give you some time to
Speaker 3: think about this tie.
Speaker 1: I would go probably with Justin Herbert at quarterback.
Speaker 3: I would go with the Wisconsin offensive line, and I'm
Speaker 3: only I can't repeat any of these any of the
Speaker 3: school I'd probably look at Ohio State at running back,
Speaker 3: if not running back, receiver. And if I were to
Speaker 3: go Ohio State at running back, I'll probably go Oklahoma
Speaker 3: at receiver. Defensive line is Clemson. It's a pretty easy
Speaker 3: call for me. Linebacker, I like Auburn's guys, I like
Speaker 3: Washington's guys. I will probably go Auburn there. Defensive backs,
Speaker 3: I'll I think I'm just gonna lock in LSU there
Speaker 3: with Grant Delpit and Greedy Williams. I think that's my
Speaker 3: answer if I'm gonna if I'm gonna go across the
Speaker 3: major position groups, and it did hurt not to take
Speaker 3: special teams with LSU and Cole Tracy, but I'm going
Speaker 3: to leave that too open to interpretation.
Speaker 1: I would go Trace McSorley and coach who would you
Speaker 1: go with? Coach wise?
Speaker 2: Uh, coach, can we bring Hugh Freeze out of retirement?
Speaker 2: You seemed to have a lot of success against against Alabama.
Speaker 1: It's a good answer. Trace McSorley is my answer. At quarterback.
Speaker 2: He does enough okay with his legs and with his arm.
Speaker 2: I think to cause it's you need a dual threat guy.
Speaker 2: I would take Old Missus wide receivers because they're big
Speaker 2: and very talented.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Probably we've seen them against Alabama's defense backs well, we have.
Speaker 3: But that's why I went away from Old Miss.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Who did you go with? Oklahoma's? Oklahoma?
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go, like Hollywood, give Old Miss another chance,
Speaker 1: all right, okay go I agree with you running backs,
Speaker 1: Ohio State.
Speaker 2: We'll take Wisconsin offensive line sure, Clemson defensive line sure,
Speaker 2: Auburn linebacker.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I might go Michigan defensive backfield, very good on the
Speaker 2: defensive backfield, very good defensive You could take Michigan's entire
Speaker 2: defense if you want it.
Speaker 3: I would take Yeah, I would take Michigan at linebacker
Speaker 3: as well. I kind of forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can make you can make a case for.
Speaker 2: A variety of different answers there on the defensive side.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3: Uh And so you coach wise, I hate your Trace
Speaker 3: McSorley pick, by the way, I know alough you didn't.
Speaker 1: You hate Trace McSorley just in general.
Speaker 3: So I don't need Trace McSorley. I watched him play
Speaker 3: against Michigan State last week and I was inking, Alabama
Speaker 3: big game quarterback. Okay, big game quarterback. It was pretty
Speaker 3: big game big game quarterback. Next question, we got a
Speaker 3: couple of Iowa State questions. Let's go to how embarrassed
Speaker 3: are all involved parties going to be when no one
Speaker 3: sees Iowa State Texas because the game got exiled to
Speaker 3: the Longhorn Network. I totally disagree with the premise of
Speaker 3: this question. That's from Jacob. I loved watching Army Oklahoma
Speaker 3: on an illegal stream. There was something, There's something very
Speaker 3: bonding about everybody being in this same weird position and
Speaker 3: having to go to Twitch or periscope or a weird
Speaker 3: stream that's installing malware as you speak, as you watch
Speaker 3: on your computer, that's tracking your every movement. And that's
Speaker 3: how many of us. If this game is close, if
Speaker 3: this game is interesting, if this game has stakes, are
Speaker 3: going to watch.
Speaker 1: It does give a feeling of mystery to it, doesn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if a tree falls in a forest kind of element, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it really happened. And this, by the way, was one
Speaker 3: of the more interesting games last year. It was what
Speaker 3: I think seventeen ten, seventeen seven Texas wins in ames.
Speaker 3: That was the Jacob Park maybe the last Jacob Park
Speaker 3: game for Iowa State. Wow and cut, thank you, Thank you,
Speaker 3: and Iowa State's defense became weirdly influential. Everybody started running
Speaker 3: a crazy dime in the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: I like that. Jesse wants to know.
Speaker 3: Has the fourteen playoff devalued the New Year six? It
Speaker 3: used to be that making a New Year six game
Speaker 3: was a huge accomplishment. Now it seems like a consolation prize.
Speaker 1: I well, yes and no.
Speaker 2: I think the BCS devalued, to be honest, I think
Speaker 2: the BCS de valued the balls the second they moved
Speaker 2: moved away from the old system where everyone would play
Speaker 2: whatever Bowl matchups they ended up with, and then the
Speaker 2: voters would decide who the champion was whenever they moved
Speaker 2: away from that system, in which essentially.
Speaker 1: Bowl games weren't.
Speaker 2: Fully exhibition games the way they are now when they
Speaker 2: moved away from that, and now to the current model.
Speaker 1: Where we have a quote unquote true national championship game.
Speaker 2: We did previously or tried to with the BCS, and
Speaker 2: we do now obviously with the playoff system. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think by default the values those other games. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any way around it.
Speaker 3: I remember loving New Year's Day so much more a
Speaker 3: while ago, and it's hard to say more. Multiple things
Speaker 3: aren't true. It's hard to say that. That was so
Speaker 3: much more fun when that was all we knew and
Speaker 3: all we had.
Speaker 1: When you were.
Speaker 3: Watching you know, Wisconsin, Stanford or you know whoever in
Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl and you have a fun Sugar Bowl
Speaker 3: and an Orange Bowl would be Florida State and somebody
Speaker 3: Florida State Nebraska. There was that element of we're the
Speaker 3: only sport that weirdly has five kind of four championship games,
Speaker 3: six championship games. There was something that was cool about that.
Speaker 3: Well in a very misleading way. Well yeah, no, So
Speaker 3: I think there's two questions here. The question that Jesse
Speaker 3: asked us is are those bowl games devalued? And I
Speaker 3: think the answer is yes, if you're asking me if
Speaker 3: New Year's Day as a football holiday has been devalued,
Speaker 3: And that's a resounding guess. And I'm with you on
Speaker 3: that front.
Speaker 2: Whenever they got away from that old bottle where we
Speaker 2: just had more games and it was more higher level
Speaker 2: matchups that we could watch on New Year's Day, that
Speaker 2: was the best. I love that as a kid. You
Speaker 2: don't get that anymore. You have a couple hand you
Speaker 2: have a handful of games that are spaced out. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there used to be more games on New Year's Day,
Speaker 2: and it was just a football palooza, kind of like
Speaker 2: a college football Saturday, with really matchups that we wouldn't
Speaker 2: have otherwise. That was fun And if there were any
Speaker 2: way to get back to that, I'd be all for it.
Speaker 3: There was something, I swear, I'm going to try my
Speaker 3: best not to get gross here. Tie not gross, but
Speaker 3: you know, deeply sexual. There was something when spreading all
Speaker 3: of those games around like that and knowing that was it,
Speaker 3: that's all we had. There was something about it just
Speaker 3: being I'm really trying hard not to be gross, so
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be. All I'm gonna say is
Speaker 3: as it relates to the playoff, I think the fore
Speaker 3: play may be better than the main event. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't look forward to the playoff like I do trying to.
Speaker 3: I don't look forward to the actual playoff itself as
Speaker 3: much as I like seeing it all sort out in
Speaker 3: the coming in the weeks leading up to it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the playoff is not a fun experience right now. No, Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, and part of that is the inevitability of
Speaker 3: Alabama and teams like Ohio and Clemson being there more
Speaker 3: often than not, So there is there's nothing really fun,
Speaker 3: whereas like the Rose Bull you have like Washington Purdue
Speaker 3: one year, I really love the Rose Bowl. So okay,
Speaker 3: that's where I stand right now.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll go where are we going next? Here?
Speaker 3: Let's go to Jason Horvath wants to know what must
Speaker 3: Michigan do to beat Ohio State? Well, so what is
Speaker 3: our state of the mid season with Ohio State and Michigan.
Speaker 2: We talked about Ohio State's defense a little bit on
Speaker 2: the show yesterday, and even on Sunday they're given up points.
Speaker 2: They're not as impenetrable as we've seen in recent years,
Speaker 2: probably as they could be this year. It seems like
Speaker 2: that's a real tendency and that's part of the reason
Speaker 2: why Purdue is only like a two touchdown dog at
Speaker 2: home because they score points, and you can put up
Speaker 2: points against Ohio States. So I think what Michigan has
Speaker 2: to do is, first off, they need to control clock
Speaker 2: because Ohio State, with Dwayne Haskins and all of their
Speaker 2: weapons on offense, they can strike you pretty darn quick.
Speaker 1: Michigan needs to control the clock. With their rushing game.
Speaker 2: We know they like to run the ball and at
Speaker 2: Shaye Patterson needs to avoid turnovers. Quite frankly, I think
Speaker 2: there is that streak in him where he tries to
Speaker 2: make something out of nothing. He needs to not do that,
Speaker 2: and the defense needs to find a way to distrup
Speaker 2: Dwayne Haskins. I don't know if the formula to beat
Speaker 2: Ohio State is as complex as it has been in
Speaker 2: previous years. Lord knows, they still have the talent, but
Speaker 2: I think whatever, you've got such a high level defense
Speaker 2: the way Michigan does this year and an offense that
Speaker 2: does seem to be improving, the calculus isn't quite as
Speaker 2: isn't quite as complicated now. They just need to play
Speaker 2: their best game of the year, which is no small task,
Speaker 2: and they need to shut down certain assets, and they
Speaker 2: need to shut down certain aspects of that Ohio State
Speaker 2: offense to really give themselves a puncher's chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Michigan can play them pretty much head
Speaker 3: up on defense. I don't think they need to do
Speaker 3: any thing. I don't think it's that complex.
Speaker 1: I just they need to play really solidly.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they have the talent on all three
Speaker 3: levels that they just play their own game and they're
Speaker 3: in a good place. The game is in Columbus, which
Speaker 3: will post an incredible challenge Offensively, I think that's where
Speaker 3: everything is for Michigan because keeping this defense well rested
Speaker 3: is huge, and if they're able to generate some bigger
Speaker 3: plays on the ground with Chris Evans and Karan Higdon
Speaker 3: and Shaye Patterson continues to sort of evolve within the
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh Pep Hamilton offense, if they're able to get
Speaker 3: more consistent performances from their pass catchers, I know Nico
Speaker 3: Collins is the latest to sort of step up. I
Speaker 3: think that's enormous because I think you're right. Ohio State
Speaker 3: has a good defense, but not a great great defense
Speaker 3: right now. And maybe by the end of the season,
Speaker 3: maybe they're more of a grower, maybe they'll come into
Speaker 3: their own, But right now, I think Michigan has a like,
Speaker 3: if you had to give me a zero out a
Speaker 3: one hundred percent chance of Michigan going to Columbus and
Speaker 3: winning this game outright probably as I don't know, two
Speaker 3: and a half, three and a half point dogs, whatever
Speaker 3: somewhere around there, what percent chance.
Speaker 1: Would you give it? What percent would I give.
Speaker 3: Michigan going to Columbus and just win winning the game
Speaker 3: out right, correct, man, I I got I'd probably give
Speaker 3: him like a thirty to forty percent chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's where my head is. My head had.
Speaker 2: Thirty eight Yeah, yeah, I mean I think they have
Speaker 2: eight percent. They have a pretty good chance of doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 3: With that, that'll change this weekend. We'll go a long
Speaker 3: way with Michigan playing Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: With the success Notre Dame has had thus far since
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly, Gosh, we are steering into Notre Dame, aren't
Speaker 3: we all? Homer episode? Yeah, with his success the Irish
Speaker 3: have had thus far since Brian Kelly made the switch
Speaker 3: from Brandon Wimbush to Ian book. That's right pit by
Speaker 3: not one, not two, not three. Do you envision more
Speaker 3: coaches in the future being proactive when it comes to
Speaker 3: switching quarterbacks prior to have it being forced upon them
Speaker 3: via losses. I think this is one of the more
Speaker 3: intriguing questions of the season overall, is managing quarterback play
Speaker 3: in general. With what we've seen at I mean Nebraska
Speaker 3: losing a quarterback before the season, starting with what's happening
Speaker 3: at Georgia and Clemson, it's fascinating. Alabama, well, it's okay.
Speaker 2: So not all situations are created equally, and I bring
Speaker 2: that up. So we've had a couple instances of quarterback changes,
Speaker 2: all of which were under different circumstances. Do we count
Speaker 2: the Tua move in the National Championship last year as
Speaker 2: falling under this cant making a change before losing? Yeah,
Speaker 2: making a change before losing. So that's a very recent,
Speaker 2: very note example of it working out. And then we've
Speaker 2: had another one this year. Of course, with the move
Speaker 2: to Trevor Lawrence away from Kelly Bryant. We've had it
Speaker 2: to happen obviously at Notre Dame. Not every school has
Speaker 2: the same embarrassment of riches that Alabama and Clemson have.
Speaker 2: Who knows, we might see it at Georgia before the
Speaker 2: end of the year two. But like I hesitate to
Speaker 2: say that we're gonna see more of this, I just
Speaker 2: think we're in a really extraordinary season where we knew
Speaker 2: headed in there were gonna be a ton of quarterback
Speaker 2: questions around college football, and we knew that this was
Speaker 2: a possibility we would see some quarterback changes. I just
Speaker 2: don't think we expected to see as many as we
Speaker 2: have and to see, oh, by the way, so many
Speaker 2: of them work out. I think these are kind of
Speaker 2: extraordinary circumstances that you wouldn't see otherwise in a normal
Speaker 2: college football season. So I don't necessarily think it's a
Speaker 2: harbinger for anything to come down the line. I just
Speaker 2: think it's just sort of one of those blips on
Speaker 2: the radar where we had many situations in a very
Speaker 2: short period of time all kind of work out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's this specific situation with Notre
Speaker 3: Dame was because Notre Dame, with the talent on both
Speaker 3: sides of the ball, wasn't separating itself from average to
Speaker 3: below average teams. Yeah, and we also not meant to
Speaker 3: insult those teams, but we had signs that Brandon Wimbush
Speaker 3: was not leading touchdown drives where he should have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in that sense, it's very normal the way
Speaker 2: that they moved away from him. It's dramatic because it's
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, but we saw it all last season with Wimbush.
Speaker 2: We did see a little bit of book come in
Speaker 2: in big situations and perform. And though it was a
Speaker 2: little bit unexpected to bring him in and start him
Speaker 2: against wake Forest. I feel like that's a lot less
Speaker 2: expected than the balls that Nick Saban had quite frankly
Speaker 2: to bring in Yeah Tua in the National Championship, or
Speaker 2: even the balls that Dabo Sweeney had to bring in
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence over Kelly Bryant really.
Speaker 1: With no body of work. That those, to me are.
Speaker 2: Are really extraordinary that they would have the confidence to
Speaker 2: go to those guys. Granted two had a little bit
Speaker 2: of work last year beforehand, but still those to me
Speaker 2: are incredible that the coaches would go to guys with
Speaker 2: virtually no experience in key situations, and even this year
Speaker 2: obviously with Clemsons. So the book move, though dramatic, is
Speaker 2: is far more normal than some of the other ones
Speaker 2: we've seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Clemson one is interesting because Kelly Bryant had
Speaker 3: been good this year. I mean, obviously he hit a
Speaker 3: wall against Alabama last year and most most teams did,
Speaker 3: so we had a concept that Kelly Bryant may struggle
Speaker 3: against the very best of competition. But this wasn't you know,
Speaker 3: the Kelly Bryant situation. Wasn't Brandon Wimbush barely beating Ball
Speaker 3: State or Vanderbilt or something like that. So that was
Speaker 3: that's more surprising to me. But yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 3: I think most teams should have the luxury of switching
Speaker 3: quarterbacks undefeated and only beating teams by by narrow margins.
Speaker 3: That that's I think the unique quality of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where are we going next?
Speaker 3: Maybe final question? We'll see this because it was worded
Speaker 3: so magnificently. Chris wants to know which team has the
Speaker 3: biggest second half turnaround because every now and then they
Speaker 3: fall apart, or because they're forever is going to start tonight?
Speaker 3: Good job, Chris, great, That question is ti even I
Speaker 3: tried to read it as dryly as possible to see
Speaker 3: if you would pick up what I was throwing down. Okay,
Speaker 3: so what the second half turnarounds? What is the question here?
Speaker 3: So presumably a team that has been disappointing in the
Speaker 3: first half of the season will come on strong. Okay
Speaker 3: from this point on recording this October eighteenth, So there
Speaker 3: are games tonight actually, so if like Stanford for example, yeah,
Speaker 3: could be one of those teams. They are playing Arizona
Speaker 3: State tonight. We'll see what happens. We may sound like
Speaker 3: idiots by the time people listen to this. If they
Speaker 3: get killed by ASU. But who, in your mind is
Speaker 3: a prime turnaround candidate who, let's say has a losing
Speaker 3: record right now.
Speaker 2: Has a losing record. Okay, well, yeah, I'll give you
Speaker 2: some candidates of TEA. Give me some options here, so from.
Speaker 3: The ACC and I'll be realistic here. So I guess Louisville.
Speaker 3: You know, they have pieces, They've had a really nice
Speaker 3: receiving corps. They have a losing record. North Carolina, Georgia
Speaker 3: Tech a top maybe twenty five to thirty offense in
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech, but the defense has been kind of disappointing.
Speaker 3: Kansas Kansas State both have losing records in the Big
Speaker 3: twelve and the Big Ten. I think we can scratch
Speaker 3: Rutgers off losing records. From the other side is just Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Maybe Nebraska has a turnaround. You haven't stopped me yet,
Speaker 3: so I'm not sensing you're feeling great about anybody.
Speaker 1: I think, well, I'm going to go to one that
Speaker 1: you haven't gotten to and one that you did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by k State because, like we said on Barnes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like we said on the show, I think last Wednesday
Speaker 2: and again on Sunday. If k State just decides if
Speaker 2: it we're running every play, that might be more what
Speaker 2: they're equipped to do at this point. So kse State
Speaker 2: to me is one that I can see them turning around.
Speaker 2: And I'm real curious to see what happens with UCLA
Speaker 2: now because they're one in five.
Speaker 1: That was gonna be my answer, Yeah, one in five.
Speaker 2: It does seem like they're kind of making a shift
Speaker 2: offensively as well. So if that system takes and they
Speaker 2: keep having success, I think I think UCLA is a
Speaker 2: is a pretty good answer. One answer that probably won't
Speaker 2: translate to wins and losses, but just a team that
Speaker 2: I think has had a turnaround this season. In many
Speaker 2: regards Oregon State. We didn't talk about John Smith at all,
Speaker 2: the job he's I think it'll translate into some losses,
Speaker 2: but it'll translate into but there's definitely been a market
Speaker 2: improvement in the revers this year, and that if you're
Speaker 2: an Oregon State fan, if you're listening now, I don't
Speaker 2: know how many we have, but I do think they
Speaker 2: are better and I hope they continue down the path
Speaker 2: that they've been going down so far this year because
Speaker 2: there's been improvement.
Speaker 3: It's a year zero situation. Yeah, and absolutely you can
Speaker 3: tell that there is belief in Jonathan Smith, both among
Speaker 3: the players on that team, guys transferring in. They have
Speaker 3: some big name transfers coming in Addison Gums, Tristan Jebia, Gabbio, whatever,
Speaker 3: Tijon Lindsay also from Nebraska, big names, big time recruits
Speaker 3: from a past couple of years. UCLA is interesting to
Speaker 3: me just because we've seen the momentum start with how
Speaker 3: they played against Washington, you know, beating Cal.
Speaker 1: They have Arizona this week. The back half of.
Speaker 3: Their schedule is not great, but what they look like
Speaker 3: against Utah, Oregon, USC Stanford should be an indicator and
Speaker 3: it should perhaps pick up their.
Speaker 1: Recruiting momentum a little bit, which is I think in need.
Speaker 3: So definitely, I think those are my answers right now
Speaker 3: that you know, you might not translate to wins. But
Speaker 3: and even like Arkansas has looked pretty, they have some
Speaker 3: fight to them. Yeah, even though it hasn't hasn't sort
Speaker 3: of caught in the winds, call some plot, a little
Speaker 3: bit of pluck, some pluck, he says. I'll tell you
Speaker 3: one team I'm not in on, Yukon. I am not
Speaker 3: in on sexy Randy eds huls Now Yukon.
Speaker 2: We haven't played I think we haven't played sexier than
Speaker 2: edsseel in a while.
Speaker 1: Maybe on Wednesday we'll do it.
Speaker 3: Can I give you a couple right now?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's a free show, free country.
Speaker 3: It's a free show, all right, before we get on
Speaker 3: with Jeff Schwartz.
Speaker 1: So here, hold on, here's what I wanted to like.
Speaker 2: We're not editing any of the stuff out now because
Speaker 2: we're enjoying ourselves here with the Q and A, and
Speaker 2: we're already running close to an hour. We'll put out
Speaker 2: your Oregon chat with Jeff is like a separate thing altogether. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, so we don't have to try and bolt
Speaker 2: those two together. We'll just we'll make that a whole
Speaker 2: separate thing and we'll close out strong here with the
Speaker 2: Q and A.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, are the following people sexier than Randy Edzel?
Speaker 3: This comes to us as a game that I don't
Speaker 3: know we started for no good reason a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Definitely no good reason. This is all science, ty. You
Speaker 3: just tell me if objectively these coaches are sexier than
Speaker 3: Randy Edzel, and by all means you can have every
Speaker 3: advantage and pull up a picture of Randy Etzel right now, yep,
Speaker 3: to just get a sense for him his topography.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're listing at home or at the office,
Speaker 2: just pull up go to Google image search and pull
Speaker 2: up the biggest you can filter by large images, get
Speaker 2: the biggest, highest res image you can of Randy Edzel.
Speaker 2: And if you're driving in a car, we can't. We
Speaker 2: wouldn't advise you to do this while you're driving the car.
Speaker 2: But maybe if you want to pull over somewhere and
Speaker 2: just pull it up on your phone just so that
Speaker 2: you can play along, play the home game with us here.
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, let's start here with Charlie Strong.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good I say. I think so, Charlie Strong,
Speaker 2: looks like you could still play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this one's the tough one. Dabo Sweeney, No,
Speaker 3: I don't think that's I don't think that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I've got I've got a split screen thing going on
Speaker 2: right here, right now.
Speaker 1: And uh no, it's it's no contest.
Speaker 2: It's Dabo or excuse me, it's a It's not Dabo,
Speaker 2: it's Randy Etzel, Okay.
Speaker 3: Paul Christ No, Paul Christ. Wow, emphatic out of here,
Speaker 3: Randy Etzel. Scott Frost mm hmmm, still Randy Etzel. Frost is, Yes,
Speaker 3: it's it's Randy Etzel, Chris Peterson, Randy Edzel.
Speaker 1: Wow, Randy Etzel. He seems like.
Speaker 3: Chris Peterson, seems like he's a pretty good shave. I'm
Speaker 3: learning all sorts of things about you, Justin Wilcox.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure I know what Justin Wilcox looks like. Really, Yeah, hold.
Speaker 3: On, okay, pull up a picture Justin Wilcox.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, yeah, I know what you mean now.
Speaker 2: I probably Okay, he says, well, you know, let's be honest.
Speaker 2: I got to go Justin Wilcox here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree with you. Will must champ.
Speaker 1: Randy Edzel. I think Randy Edzel is the answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, final Gus smells on Randy Edzel. Yeah, the sweater
Speaker 3: vest thing is not working out.
Speaker 2: There's a reason that we call this game sexier than Edsel.
Speaker 2: It's not easy to be sexier than Randy Etzel.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm learning. Who knew, ty?
Speaker 2: This is why we played the high bar of Randy Edseel.
Speaker 2: You play to win the game here, Okay, good.
Speaker 3: To know well, we'll finish with somebody that has I'm
Speaker 3: that didn't have anything to do with college football, but somebody
Speaker 3: wanted to know.
Speaker 1: Here's our final question. Where did it go? This was
Speaker 1: Shiva doc Shiva doach.
Speaker 3: Actually is a good we'll do college and non college
Speaker 3: in this. If Georgia Tech decides to move from Paul Johnson,
Speaker 3: move on, move forward from Paul Johnson after this season,
Speaker 3: who do you think are prime candidates for the Georgia
Speaker 3: Tech job A very good job, I would say, at least.
Speaker 1: Potentially, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: Okay, So it's academics come into it with Georgia Tech. Right,
Speaker 3: being the number two in your state is It's tricky,
Speaker 3: But a state that's filled with talent, and in a
Speaker 3: region that's filled with talent, and in a conference where
Speaker 3: you can win a good chunk of games. Right, desirable city,
Speaker 3: right man Ie lane lane train. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: probably gonna happen with the lane train. That's a pretty
Speaker 3: big jump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I as long as it's not the option for me,
Speaker 2: you'd have to move away from the option. Don't don't
Speaker 2: stick with that option system. The option, I know you
Speaker 2: love it. I think it shades the way you look
Speaker 2: at that job. But I don't think the answer here
Speaker 2: is ken Neo Mantalolo.
Speaker 1: Okay, disagree? So who do you have?
Speaker 3: Give me some names? Neil Brown at Troy. A lot
Speaker 3: of people thought he was going to be a growing name.
Speaker 1: He's a decent name.
Speaker 3: Scott Saderfield app State. I don't know what more you
Speaker 3: want from him. Blake Anderson at Arkansas State.
Speaker 1: This is me googling feverishly.
Speaker 3: Jason Kandall, Toledo.
Speaker 2: I would want a guy from the South, Okay, I
Speaker 2: would want someone from down south.
Speaker 1: How about this?
Speaker 3: This was somebody whose name we mentioned not two and
Speaker 3: a half minutes ago, but Charlie Strong.
Speaker 1: Interesting, it's an interesting name.
Speaker 3: Their defense would be instantly approved, improved.
Speaker 1: He's got good familiarity with the South. Correct. Would he
Speaker 1: want to leave South? Is Georgia Tech a better job
Speaker 1: than South Florida?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, oh for sure is. Yes, It's an
Speaker 3: a sec job and it's a quality acc Charlie Strong
Speaker 3: loves he loves the state of Florida. I know you're
Speaker 3: not that far away. Okay, you could convince people from
Speaker 3: Florida to move to Atlanta. Atlanta is a great city.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just true.
Speaker 3: You don't have to sit in traffic that much if
Speaker 3: you're a college student. I think Charlie Strong is It's
Speaker 3: a good I.
Speaker 1: Need time to think about this. I was unprepared for
Speaker 1: this question.
Speaker 3: That's okay, you are prepared for the second part of
Speaker 3: Shiva Docs. Questions from Reddit. By the way, best national
Speaker 3: fast food chain tie a first, Let's let's okay.
Speaker 1: Good answer. Chick fil A is the answer I would
Speaker 1: only answer.
Speaker 3: How do you how do you define? And Chick fil
Speaker 3: A fits this? How do you define fast food?
Speaker 1: What is like? Is Chipotle fast food?
Speaker 2: Some No, that would be casual dining or casual fast Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think something with a through mm hmm is what
Speaker 2: I would classify as best fast food or a fast
Speaker 2: food traditional fast food.
Speaker 1: For me, the answer is Chick fil A.
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite fast food burger? I like
Speaker 2: the Wendy's classic single with cheese.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Didn't even have to think about it.
Speaker 3: No, you didn't have to shuffle through your whopper experiences
Speaker 3: big mac experiences.
Speaker 2: The problem with the whopper is that there's too much
Speaker 2: going on, and there's so much burger that the bun
Speaker 2: falls apart and I read something a long time ago
Speaker 2: on the McDonald's front that if you take the burger
Speaker 2: out of the bun and throw it out on your
Speaker 2: back deck, that the bacteria won't even attack it.
Speaker 1: That it's not it's not real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's enough preservatives to fight off nature.
Speaker 2: And though though I've probably had a quarter pounder here
Speaker 2: and there since reading that, I gotta be honest, it
Speaker 2: scares the hell out of me. So okay, the answer
Speaker 2: would definitely not be them.
Speaker 1: What percent of the Chick fil A menu do you explore?
Speaker 2: I'll usually go if I'm feeling dangerous, by the way,
Speaker 2: Chick fil A not a sponsor.
Speaker 1: No, not a sponsor.
Speaker 2: I'll go if i'm a feeling If I'm feeling dangerous,
Speaker 2: I'll go spicy chicken sandwich. But I've experimented with the
Speaker 2: just Chick fil A sandwich, the regular Chick fil A sandwich.
Speaker 2: I've done the cool Wrap combo, which I think is
Speaker 2: the number six. I've done the nugs. Everyone's done the
Speaker 2: nugs or the chicken tendos.
Speaker 3: Do they currently have spicy nugs?
Speaker 1: I don't know. They probably have sauce that could satisfy that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm talking for you nug itself being that's
Speaker 3: where Wendy's has an advantage. They have strong spicy nugs.
Speaker 2: Right, No, I don't. I don't think so. I've done salads,
Speaker 2: I've done the soup. I think I've done I've done
Speaker 2: like the milkshake, some of the ice cream.
Speaker 1: That they offer you. I've had a good swath of
Speaker 1: the menu. My answer may be Jack in the Box?
Speaker 3: Does Jack in the Box? I don't drive fast food?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, you could tell that I'm not versed in the
Speaker 2: ways of Jack in the Box.
Speaker 1: Jack in the Box.
Speaker 3: I honestly I will eat McDonald's for breakfast in an airport.
Speaker 3: And this isn't for any real reason. I just like cooking.
Speaker 3: I think fast food is delicious. It's just terrible for you.
Speaker 3: I like Taco Bell, McDonald's is fine. I like a
Speaker 3: McDonald's cheeseburger dipped in sweet and sour.
Speaker 1: Fine.
Speaker 3: Chick fil A is good. Jack in the Box is
Speaker 3: way out in the forefront in terms of all day
Speaker 3: breakfast or a breakfast jacket one in the morning if
Speaker 3: you want it five pm. And everybody started copying them.
Speaker 3: Their tacos are disgustingly wonderful. It's like a mystery meat situation.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is fried together.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: They don't just fry the shell and then put in
Speaker 3: some meat and lettuce. They fry the whole damn thing.
Speaker 3: There's spicy chicken sandwiches, good good shakes. Jack in the Box.
Speaker 3: My answer, does does In and Out have a drive through?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean it's by default, yeah, Oh, by default in
Speaker 3: and Out it's a drive through. But I think In
Speaker 3: and Out is delicious. Their fries aren't that good, and
Speaker 3: it's not a national fast food chain. I don't think
Speaker 3: they go past Utah, Texas or we.
Speaker 1: Don't have any. We don't have any Jack in the
Speaker 1: Box franchises over here in PA. Have you had Jack
Speaker 1: in the Box? I don't think so. It's it's a weird,
Speaker 1: terrific experience. Tie.
Speaker 3: You can look into a bag and get some mazzarella sticks,
Speaker 3: some egg rolls, okay, breakfast sandwich.
Speaker 2: But if you take if you take the burger out
Speaker 2: of the bun and throw it out on your back patio,
Speaker 2: well the flies will the bacteria go after it?
Speaker 1: Almost assuredly?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 3: No, I'm sure it's in the same class. Oh, and
Speaker 3: they also they have the sourdough option. Ty, okay, you
Speaker 3: got a burger on some sourdough.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: All right, this has been This has been fun. I
Speaker 2: don't think we've got time for any more questions. Here
Speaker 2: is the deal. We'll do more of these as the
Speaker 2: year progresses. We promise there's always demand for a Q
Speaker 2: and a show. If you've got questions, If you want
Speaker 2: questions answered, maybe you sent them in today, we didn't
Speaker 2: get to them. We will get to them at some
Speaker 2: point this season, whether it's a separate podcast, whether it's
Speaker 2: just something we post on one of the social channels,
Speaker 2: keep your eyes and ears peeled for when we might
Speaker 2: do something like that. We'll do it again soon, we promise.
Speaker 2: The other thing that we'll add. If you're looking at
Speaker 2: your podcast feed and you see an Oregon show come
Speaker 2: up after this one, it's because this is a thing
Speaker 2: that we're going to try to do more of. So
Speaker 2: Dan's going to talk to Josh Schwartz, our good friend
Speaker 2: Josh Schwartz about Oregon football. Next week, We're going to
Speaker 2: try and talk Notre Dame. We'll start off with two
Speaker 2: of our homer pods, but then we really do truly
Speaker 2: want to migrate into talking about some other teams with
Speaker 2: other beat writers, just to try and get the lay
Speaker 2: of the land. Whether it's a team of prominence, whether
Speaker 2: it's not a team of prominence, just someone with an
Speaker 2: interesting storyline. Feel free to reach out let us know
Speaker 2: which teams you might be interested in hearing more about
Speaker 2: if we talk a little bit more detail, because we
Speaker 2: think it'd be a cool thing to do this time
Speaker 2: of year.
Speaker 1: Sound good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, only Homer is allowed.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, for that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein,
Speaker 2: thank you, sir for collecting all these questions, for putting
Speaker 2: them in a document, and for not buzzing me the
Speaker 2: whole show.
Speaker 1: I didn't do the radio that.
Speaker 3: I just I didn't want to throw you off your
Speaker 3: game time.
Speaker 1: I'm considerate. All right, Well, I tie he's Dan.
Speaker 2: We're gonna catch you all momentarily, actually, if you're listening
Speaker 2: to us in binge mode. But in the meantime, if
Speaker 2: you don't listen to any of these shows, or at
Speaker 2: least the next show that.
Speaker 1: We're doing, we'll catch you all on Sunday. In the meantime,
Speaker 1: stay STI