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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show, the JJ Watt effect.

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Speaker 1: What his presence means on and off the field here

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Deander Hopkins too. He has been a presence

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Speaker 1: this offseason, not a big one, but he has been around.

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Speaker 1: We though, know he won't be at the start of

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Speaker 1: the season, so how to best handle his absence for

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Speaker 1: those first six games. We presents a new option to

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Speaker 1: potentially fill that spot. But first the power and influence

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Speaker 1: of my co host. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode five

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Speaker 1: sixty nine, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Hit in the backfield and down he goes for a loss.

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt nailed him. Cardinals Cover two is presented by

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Speaker 1: Hun Day, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com slash podcast.

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Speaker 1: He said a ten half a five percent again, So

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Speaker 1: more hurry magic. Oh, here's Craig grie Loup. So let's

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Speaker 1: heal the curtain back for just a moment. Here the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this week after Monday's OTA changed their schedule just

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Speaker 1: a bit. And I can't help but think, Danny that

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Speaker 1: maybe you were the reason why not that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to tell me something different? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: get that on field work done before noon so you

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Speaker 1: can make sure you get lunch, because I know how

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Speaker 1: you are. If you don't get fed, the rest of

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Speaker 1: the day just doesn't go as well. WHOA, I figured

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Speaker 1: the power and influence of one Danny Serek has finally

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Speaker 1: reached the head coach. First of all, No, I can't

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Speaker 1: be the only one in the building who would not

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Speaker 1: be happy if I didn't make it to lunch by

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Speaker 1: ashamed to admit that if we are doing media availability

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Speaker 1: and maybe we have one more player and it's pushing

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Speaker 1: when it has posted online. I'll admit that got one

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Speaker 1: eye on the clock. Yes, yes, But if a player

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Speaker 1: be respectful and I will stay because that has happened

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Speaker 1: as well. But I don't I'm not going to apologize

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Speaker 1: for lunch being an important part of my day. Is

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Speaker 1: that did Cliff Kingsbury get word of that is the

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Speaker 1: schedule change because of me. Should I be thanking him?

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Speaker 1: I think we all should be thanking you because now

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Speaker 1: we all are making sure that we make sure you

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Speaker 1: know we are able to get lunch before things close up. Well,

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Speaker 1: then you're welcome, all right, so thank you. Of course.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it also had to do a little something

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Speaker 1: to do with the fact that on Thursday it's expected

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Speaker 1: to be one hundred and fifteen this week. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that As someone who is experiencing her first Arizona summer,

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Speaker 1: I don't really have any good words to respond to

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Speaker 1: that way. I'll give you two words air conditioning. But

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Speaker 1: we're still going to be outside. It's just gonna be

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Speaker 1: earlier now, Yes, okay, in the shade. Maybe I'll bring

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Speaker 1: like one of those little umbrella hats so I really

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Speaker 1: make sure I'm covered. Oh, I should get one of those,

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Speaker 1: like the bucket hats. Well, not just a bucket hat,

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Speaker 1: but you wear it around your neck like a necklace

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Speaker 1: and it's like a little fan. Would you guys laugh

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Speaker 1: I will buy you lunch about that? Yes? Why would

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Speaker 1: that be a bad thing to have a family. You'd

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Speaker 1: be jealous, you would make fun of me, and then

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Speaker 1: you've been looking over at me and I went to

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Speaker 1: sweat driven would all make fun and then go, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's not a bad idea. But you know what, y'all

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Speaker 1: make fun of me to begin with already. So I

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Speaker 1: I'm doing after work to do There really is, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you are absolutely correct, it is. It is parts of

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Speaker 1: what we do here within the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Training Center right here on Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunda,

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. So there's no Danny Serek effect,

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Speaker 1: at least not yet, we'll give you time, But there

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Speaker 1: is a JJ Watt effect. This is going to be

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Speaker 1: his twelfth season. He's thirty three years old, and Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: course there's going to be an effect. That's what you want.

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Speaker 1: We heard from Kingsbury early on, either in rookie Minicamp

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Speaker 1: I do? What can I learn? From JJ Watt, take

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Speaker 1: So the question I posed to you here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Is there a Kyler Murray effect? Should there be a

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray effects? Does he have to is that? Now?

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Speaker 1: Is that coming to where others see how hard he works?

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Speaker 1: And whether it's here or not, he is working hard,

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Speaker 1: But it's how much does he elevate everyone else on

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Speaker 1: I do think it did happen last season and that's

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Speaker 1: Hop was on the sidelines. I'll go back to that

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Speaker 1: And then there's that trust factor. Kingsbury brought it up earlier.

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Speaker 1: as far as dialing up a play for Antoine Wesley,

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Speaker 1: and I do think that there needs to be more

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Speaker 1: of it still coming. I think the Kyler Murray effect

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Speaker 1: for a When thinking about that Green Bay game, however,

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Speaker 1: you know that when Kyler Murray's out on the field,

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Speaker 1: that there is an effect out on the field. Is

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Speaker 1: out here in the weight room? I don't think yet.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray hasn't been in the league year as long

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Speaker 1: as JJ, and JJ said himself, what works for him

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Speaker 1: doesn't work for everybody else. That's why Kyler Murray has

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Speaker 1: only been that we've seen at least out of those

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Speaker 1: few OTA practices last week. However, it's not like his

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Speaker 1: at all that they know that Kyler Murray is putting

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there is a big enough effect yet. However,

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Speaker 1: I do think that is coming with time as we

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Speaker 1: kind of allow him to maybe blog. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if blossoms the right word, but maybe grow into more

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Speaker 1: of that knowing he is going to be here long term,

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Speaker 1: it with Tweezy. I completely agree. I think that there

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Speaker 1: could be more of an effect from Kyler Murray off

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Speaker 1: at least one hundred and five targets each season, eleven

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Speaker 1: hundred receiving yards in twenty eighteen. So he is a

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Speaker 1: very capable pass catching Titan. I think more pass catcher

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Speaker 1: than block. Yet he is turning thirty two in November,

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Speaker 1: so he is on the other side of thirty. Yet

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Speaker 1: I thought last season, in a very limited amount of time,

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Speaker 1: with hardly any practice whatsoever coming in mid season, I

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Speaker 1: thought he was more than a pleasant surprise and was

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Speaker 1: able to kind of really make up for the loss

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Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins when I thought initially that was gonna

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Speaker 1: be aj Green, and perhaps it was too much on

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Speaker 1: Green's plates to be that number one guy. Again, not

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Speaker 1: that saying zach Ertz is your number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I do think that would be Hollywood Brown. But on

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Speaker 1: occasion a surprise, maybe he just all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: splits wide left and you see what happens. And we heard,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talked about how Sudden at least felt

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Speaker 1: losing d Hop last season in Kingsbury, saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do a good enough job at adjust in

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Speaker 1: the offense and being creative enough, and so this is

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Speaker 1: a perfect opportunity to really work on that. And looking

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Speaker 1: at zach Ertz outside as definitely a surprise, but again

450
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Speaker 1: for trying anything at this point that you think could work,

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Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe if it works well even when

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Speaker 1: d Hop comes back, that's just something they keep in

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Speaker 1: their back pocket. And again this is not my idea.

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Speaker 1: This was something zach Ertz said himself on the most

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Speaker 1: recent episode of the Day Pash podcast. So perhaps reading

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Speaker 1: between the lines, Danny, that's as much as we see,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot we don't see and we don't hear.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is something that has been discussed or Hurts

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Speaker 1: himself floated it out there and maybe wants us now

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Speaker 1: to talk about it to where it becomes a thing,

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Speaker 1: And Kingsbury says, okay, Zach, I'll let you do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I would hope that it was least

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Speaker 1: brought up. Well, if that's the case, you fell for

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Speaker 1: the trap. Yes, good job, Zach. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: the more I think about it, the more I like it.

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Speaker 1: You know, is it gonna be the first play of

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Speaker 1: week one? Probably not play number two, but play number

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Speaker 1: two absolutely? Yeah, And then you roll it out there

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Speaker 1: in the first half, see if it works, and if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't, you roll it out again in the second

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Speaker 1: half or it becomes a matchup. And depending on where

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Speaker 1: you are on the football field too. I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, first and ten from the twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's first and ten from your poem, it's twenty

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Speaker 1: five and just I don't want to have this discussion

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Speaker 1: for a second straight year, the what if what happened

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Speaker 1: with the Andre your Hopkins on the sidelines? Why couldn't

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Speaker 1: this offense keep moving the football like it did when

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Speaker 1: Hop was on the football field. Now you're losing a

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Speaker 1: big piece. But I'm sorry. Teams lose players all the

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Speaker 1: time and they make it work. The Cardinals didn't make

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Speaker 1: it work last season, and I know that it's a

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Speaker 1: new season. You can only look in the past for

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Speaker 1: so long. But maybe coming off the sting of that

485
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Speaker 1: playoff loss to the Rams was enough push for them

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Speaker 1: to get them through this entire offseason, enough motivation to

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Speaker 1: really try and look at this from a set of

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Speaker 1: fresh eyes and find new ways to be creative and

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Speaker 1: how you can be successful not only without d Hop,

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Speaker 1: but if you start relying on Hollywood Brown, start practicing

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Speaker 1: with AJ Green or other players filling in, because now

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Speaker 1: you know what could happen. I think there's more than

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Speaker 1: just looking at it from a d HOP perspective, but

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Speaker 1: just being more versatile throughout your pieces as well. And

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury has shown that he is not the stubborn head

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Speaker 1: coach my way or the highway. He steals his own words,

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Speaker 1: he steals from others. He's not one to be all right,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't my idea, so we're not going to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think he is willing to try now it's okay,

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Speaker 1: what does it look like? And are we doing that

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Speaker 1: now in practice? Is it training camp? Preseason? Although at

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Speaker 1: this point I'm not expecting and I would really don't

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Speaker 1: care to see Kyler Murray and or zach Ertz and

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Speaker 1: preseason action that that's just me here speaking in June.

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Speaker 1: But this is now the time to where you roll

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Speaker 1: it out there, even at a half speed and see

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Speaker 1: what it looks like. Even though you're not going against

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Speaker 1: the defense or your own defense is not playing, you're

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Speaker 1: really tight. So I guess we know what. We're going

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Speaker 1: to keep our eye on it. Mini camp. Mark it down,

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Speaker 1: burd Gang zach Ertz as you're outside X receiver. Also

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Speaker 1: mark down that I'm the new high Gas. That's true.

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Speaker 1: So what is the schedule for training camp? Are you

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Speaker 1: making these guys practice earlier? You're practicing lates. We're practicing

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Speaker 1: around lunch time, Craig, No, you're not supposed to practice

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Speaker 1: around We're gonna make the schedule around lunch time so

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Speaker 1: that everybody has time for lunch. That's what I'm saying. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so invite everyone the open practices. Everyone can take a

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Speaker 1: break from work. Okay, I like it. Yeah, make sure

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Speaker 1: everyone has time to eat, so you don't get angry,

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Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. See what you did there,

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Speaker 1: head coach Danny Saka love it? Okay, come out? Speaking

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Speaker 1: of head coaches, I don't know if you saw this

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Speaker 1: or not. I thought it was fascinating and it raised

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Speaker 1: a lot of eyebrows, not only locally but nationally as well.

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Speaker 1: But the top head coaches of the NFL Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: which I do think is a nice tool, not always

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Speaker 1: something that matches what your eyes tell you. So if

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Speaker 1: you're ranking the all head coaches in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: where does Cliff Kingsbury land? According to PFF, he landed

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Speaker 1: Danny in the top five. I'll say that again, Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury is a top five head coach Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: With this in mind, it was an analytical perspective. The

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Speaker 1: headline how many wins would each NFL coach have with

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Speaker 1: an average roster? And Kingsbury was the first coach listed

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Speaker 1: in Tier two. Stunned. I'm shocked. I'm curious to know

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Speaker 1: for the average average age roster is how he said

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Speaker 1: average roster with an average roster and there's this metric

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Speaker 1: in this. I wonder where do the Cardinal what is

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Speaker 1: their roster described as? Now, like, is this this quote

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Speaker 1: unquote average roster? How far off is that from what

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals currently have? Would be my question. Look this list,

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Speaker 1: You're right, it is something interesting to look at. I

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Speaker 1: will say, for reference, this is not to knock Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: You've got Sean McVay, Brandon Staley, Mike Tomlin out of

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Speaker 1: the top ten. Brandon Staley you can feel some type

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Speaker 1: way about. But Mike Tomlin and Sean McVay not even

548
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Speaker 1: cracking the top ten. So just something to keep in mind.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bill Belichick is number one. That's the tier

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Speaker 1: of what they say, Hall of Fame coaches, John Harbor

551
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Speaker 1: number two, Andy Reid number three, then tier two good coaches,

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, Pete Carroll, Matt Lafloor, Kyle Shanahan, Mike Rabel,

553
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Speaker 1: Frank Reich, and Mike McCarthy. Everyone loves lists, everyone loves rankings.

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Speaker 1: This one just kind of stood out. I mean, whenever

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Speaker 1: these lists are put out, or anytime there's a national

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Speaker 1: story ranking, whether it's coaches, players, position groups, divisions, you

557
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Speaker 1: always look, all right, where's my team, where's my player listed?

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Speaker 1: And I admit I was not expecting to see Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury in the top five. I would agree, But you

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Speaker 1: know what this tells me. We are in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the offseason. There's not much to talk about. We're

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Speaker 1: too far away from training camp, too far away from

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Speaker 1: the preseason and the regular season. So I would not

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Speaker 1: look too much into this. If you're upset, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: get too heated over it. That's my thought. Bragging rights though,

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Speaker 1: do you think Kingsbury saw this and maybe sends a

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Speaker 1: copy of this to his good friend Sean mcvah and said,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're on the outside, you're on the you're

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Speaker 1: outside the top ten. I don't really see Kingsberry using

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Speaker 1: social media enough to maybe catch an eye unless someone

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Speaker 1: said something. Maybe, But Sean Cafey just got married. He's

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Speaker 1: riding high. You know, he probably didn't want to bring

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Speaker 1: him down. Maybe, I think so. If I'm Kingsbury, I

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Speaker 1: might shoot him a Texas Hey, do you see you're

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Speaker 1: on the other? Yeah? But then once mcveighan to send

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Speaker 1: back the picture of his range, his Lobarti cake he

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Speaker 1: had at the wedding, probably would not go overall. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The last laugh is Hey, I've got this, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You can have your list exactly. I'll take the ring

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Speaker 1: in the trophy and yeah, okay. By the way, this

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Speaker 1: is what Pro Football Focus wrote about Kingsbury when ranking

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Speaker 1: him at number four. Outside of quarterback Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 1: wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins, Kingsbury has not had much to

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Speaker 1: work with in terms of offensive talent and the desert,

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Speaker 1: yet he's still managed to make the offense hum Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury has left much to be desired on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball thus far end of description. Now

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Speaker 1: it's more bench Joseph on the defense. Kingsbury, though you've

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Speaker 1: seen over the last year and a half, look and

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Speaker 1: be more involved with the defense. But I do think

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Speaker 1: that there has been talent on the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. That's the one thing that this front office

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Speaker 1: has done is to give Kyler Murray the necessary weapons,

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Speaker 1: whether that's at tight end, receiver or running back. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: look at the players they've brought in the last two years,

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Speaker 1: James Conner, zach Ertz, Hollywood Brown, AJ Green, while respective

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Speaker 1: players who have proven themselves out on the field, and

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Speaker 1: they're bringing those players in for Kyler Murray Rodney Hudson. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's a fun list. Pro Football Focus. I mean, where

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Speaker 1: do you follow with that PF? I mean you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the grades every single Monday morning? Is it more

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Speaker 1: of a I don't know, to highlight an argument that

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Speaker 1: you might have and if there's a number or a

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Speaker 1: grade that just doesn't jive with what you saw and

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Speaker 1: you're like, I'm just going to ignore it now. I

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Speaker 1: think to some degree, if you're using it, it can help.

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Speaker 1: I personally don't like to just rely on that. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great tool for those stats that are

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Speaker 1: hard to find elsewhere, looking specifically at offensive linemen or

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Speaker 1: where you know receivers are lining up, you know, like

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Speaker 1: how many snaps. Things of that nature is what I

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Speaker 1: personally like to go and use it as a reference for.

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Speaker 1: But there are lists on you know, all types of

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Speaker 1: things throughout the season, or you know, their grades on

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Speaker 1: how good a player was. I think you just take

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Speaker 1: that with a grain of salt based on what was

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Speaker 1: going on in the game. So I do think they're

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Speaker 1: you know, there are good things that I like to

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Speaker 1: go and refer to that at UM, But no, not everything,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a pretty common sent if you

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Speaker 1: ever want to get into a fantastic discussion with Justin Pugh,

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Speaker 1: bring up Pro Football Focus. Oh's a fan? How are

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Speaker 1: they and this is I'm paraphrasing him, but how is

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Speaker 1: someone in a cubicle watching it on television and or

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Speaker 1: a DVR. How are they supposed to know what the

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Speaker 1: left guard is supposed to do on a particular play?

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Speaker 1: And and and that's totally fair on Justin's part, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's and that's why it's hard for some of

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Speaker 1: these grades, whether you're offensive linement or defensive linement or

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Speaker 1: a cornerback wide receiver. All they ran the wrong route.

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Speaker 1: How do you know was the wrong route? Maybe it

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Speaker 1: was just a bad throw and the corner while they

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Speaker 1: let that guy go behind him. Maybe they were supposed

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Speaker 1: to because there was a safety over the top. So

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Speaker 1: let's just again, I'll use it just to kind of

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Speaker 1: more of just to kind of maybe back up what

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Speaker 1: I saw, or hey, that's interesting on a player that

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm not too familiar with. Just some more informational purposes.

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Speaker 1: So how do you take the list? It's fun fodder

640
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Speaker 1: here in the month of June, and it's just more

641
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Speaker 1: of a thing to discuss as you said, because yeah,

642
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: I do not believe Cliff Kingsbury. Sorry, coach. He is

643
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Speaker 1: not a top five head coach, not right now, and

644
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Speaker 1: I think he'd be very honest with everyone say I'm

645
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Speaker 1: not top five. But I do think as an offensive mind,

646
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Speaker 1: he is one of the best because of what we've

647
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: seen with this offense. Yeah, I think it's a great

648
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Speaker 1: way to put it, all, right, Head coach Danny Serek.

649
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Speaker 1: A couple other things. Where would I ring on the list?

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Speaker 1: Number one? How about thirty three? Oh, I get the joke. Crack.

651
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to laugh because it's not that funny,

652
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: but a little bit for everyone who can't see here

653
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Speaker 1: on Cardinals coverage. And now I got the laugh. Now

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Speaker 1: I got the laugh. Good job, thirty third, Head coach

655
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Speaker 1: Danny Serek. All right, The rest of the NFC West

656
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Speaker 1: is in the middle of mini camp. Cardinals will hold

657
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: their three day mandatory min camp next week, but this

658
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Speaker 1: week Seahawks rams forty nine ers all holding mini camp.

659
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Speaker 1: I was hoping that perhaps things might go differently, and

660
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: maybe DK Metcalf reportedly not showing up is good news

661
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: for Cardinal fans. I don't know exactly what the Seahawks

662
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: is still going to do at quarterback, but Gino Smith

663
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: doesn't scare me. Neither does Drew Locke Jacob Eason. So

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Speaker 1: Seahawks going through a number of changes. But the Metcalf situation,

665
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: he wants a new contract not there is a big deal.

666
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: Not a big deal. It's mandatory for a reason. Team

667
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: can say all right, excused, or we'll waive the fines.

668
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Speaker 1: But there's obviously an issue in Seattle with arguably your

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. If you think him versus Tyler Lockett.

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Speaker 1: I do think that's definitely interesting. I don't necessarily think,

671
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Speaker 1: I mean, what do I know about the situation. I

672
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Speaker 1: don't think this is one where like Metcalf is going

673
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Speaker 1: to sit out if he doesn't have a new deal

674
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Speaker 1: before the sea and starts. This is just something that's

675
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Speaker 1: part of the business. I haven't. Have you seen anything

676
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: on if the Seahawks are going to excuse him. I

677
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: have not. In fact, just there a couple of stories

678
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: that it's unexcused that he's choosing to work out elsewhere. Interesting.

679
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, definitely something to keep an eye on.

680
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Speaker 1: But I feel the same way. I'm not Seattle doesn't

681
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Speaker 1: really scare me at the moment. All right, what about

682
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Deebo, Samuel did show up, Nick

683
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: Bosa did show up. All of Samuel's kind of not

684
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: really working out on the field. He's on the field,

685
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: but he's more doing stuff on the side. He also

686
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: wants a new contract and has been very vocal. In fact,

687
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Speaker 1: he requested a trade back in April and forty nine

688
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: ers say, great, we're not trading you. So he showed

689
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Speaker 1: up this week, which I think is at least a

690
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: good sign, and the fact that, well, maybe he doesn't

691
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: want to get fine, but perhaps there is some discussions

692
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: going on behind closed doors to where something can get resolved.

693
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Speaker 1: How I feel about whether or not I'm aired of

694
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers comes down to Trey Lance. Jimmy

695
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: g isn't even there? Is he correct? He has actually

696
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: been excused? Okay, oh, he has been excused. I mean

697
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: that that's the question. I don't think it's a question

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Speaker 1: of whether or not the forty nine ers have the

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Speaker 1: talent or the ability with their coaching staff to make

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Speaker 1: it work and be a scary team. I think we've

701
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Speaker 1: seen that time and time again. I think it just

702
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Speaker 1: comes down to the quarterback that we don't really know

703
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Speaker 1: a lot about. Um. I have seen, you know, without

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Speaker 1: Jimmy g there, I've been seeing online that supposedly Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance has been you know, good in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: trying to fill that leadership role. Of course people are

707
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: going to say that though, So I think it all

708
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: just comes down to Trey Lance. What week did the

709
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Speaker 1: Cardinals face the forty nine ers for the first time?

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Speaker 1: First time? Let's see it is not until it's not

711
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: it's Mexico Football novemby first, that's week eleven, right, Yes, okay,

712
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: we shouldn't know enough by then. Yeah, by then we'll

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Speaker 1: know whether it's Lance or Hey, I mean if you

714
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: play the car last year. But now that he has

715
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: the full offseason and he'll have ten games under his belt,

716
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Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating to read and hear how many experts,

717
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Speaker 1: if he will, are so high on the forty nine

718
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Speaker 1: ers given their roster, yet still a huge question mark

719
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. Now that's that's the biggest question that any

720
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: team can have. Yet to still hear and see the

721
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers on these rankings, power rankings, if you will,

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Speaker 1: But still talked in that regard as far as within

723
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Speaker 1: the division, within the conference that they are a team

724
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: to watch, and it's just for me, it's well, you

725
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: have a huge question mark at the most important position

726
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: on the field, and that would considerably make me rethink

727
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: my position on the forty nine ers. Yeah, I agree,

728
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: it all comes down to Trey Lance. I think if

729
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: I think they have all the other right pieces, it

730
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: just comes down to the quarterback. All right, last team

731
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Speaker 1: the Rams. It's all good in Laws Angeles. Although I

732
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: was holding out hope, I had a small percentage that

733
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: all this Aaron Donald retirement talk would come to fruition.

734
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it did not. He's going to be playing for

735
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: at least three seasons. He was in a contract for

736
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Speaker 1: three seasons. But here's when you know you are good, Danny,

737
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: when you can still have three years remaining on your

738
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: current contract and your employer just says, you know what,

739
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: that's great, We're going to rip it up same three years.

740
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: But here's forty million dollars extra that we will pay

741
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: you in addition to what we had already planned on

742
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: paying you. That sounds great. I hope my boss is

743
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: listening well, and you are the now the head coach,

744
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: who are giving you extra responsibilities? Here? Am I getting

745
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: more money for those responsibilities? Okay? Read the fine print

746
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: on that contracts Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, proud

747
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. It's a big week for

748
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: you as well. The last day of OTAs on Thursday,

749
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: and there is another match, another competition if you will

750
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: Game On with Danny Seika, which you can catch on

751
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube page go to YouTube dot

752
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: com slash Asy Cardinals. But you what what is next?

753
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: Or Game On? Yes? So for those of you who

754
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: have not watched Game On yet, what are you doing

755
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: with your life? Go watch the other games. There's been

756
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: many basketball with Rondo Moore, There's been bowling with Antoine Wesley,

757
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: there has been cornhole with Trey McBride. I'm not going

758
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: to spoil what my overall record is for those who

759
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: have not watched, but I can say this, you're smiling. Yes,

760
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: that's all we're gonna say. The next game is with

761
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Speaker 1: rookie my J Sanders, and we will be playing bocce ball,

762
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: which neither of us have ever played before, so it

763
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: will be definitely a sight to see I'm going to

764
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Speaker 1: have to read up on the rules works really never

765
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Speaker 1: playgure out how the scoring system works. It's going to

766
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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. So we're gonna record it

767
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: Thursday after last OTA's practice, and then it'll be out

768
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Speaker 1: probably at some point the following week. So until then,

769
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: go get your game on. Fix the rest of the episodes,

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00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: they've been pretty fun. It's just a fun way to

771
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: get to know the players, not so much football talk,

772
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: but just you know who they are as people, especially

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Speaker 1: after COVID not being in the locker rooms and being

774
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: able to tell a lot of those stories. It's just

775
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: fun way to get competitive, which I am. There's no

776
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: mercy on the trash talk with these players. That's what

777
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the most. You get to know the player

778
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: and then you also there's some give and take, especially

779
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: with Tweezy. I thought, yes he was. Out of the

780
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Speaker 1: three Rondell and Trey McBride, Antoine Wesley was the one

781
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: that really gave it right back to man without spoiling it.

782
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: I saw a Tweezy today actually around the facility, and

783
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: he was still feeling a little salty about something that

784
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: happened in the episode. So yes, it's been fun to

785
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: see their competitive sides as well. And I'm taking a

786
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Speaker 1: note of the players that I either lose to or

787
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: are very competitive so I can bring them back on,

788
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: and also learning what sports or games they are not

789
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Speaker 1: good at, so I know what games to have on

790
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: deck next year to start practicing when I have them

791
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: back on. Careful though, you might become persona and on

792
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: grata inside that locker room if you become too good.

793
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: So like all of a sudden is like all right

794
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: and comes Danny wait, no, no, no, not talking to

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Speaker 1: you to say, might be one of those twenty four

796
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: hours forty eight hour thrings after you know, a loss

797
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: on a Sundays, like I'm just shutting you out for

798
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Talk to me on Wednesday. Just got

799
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Speaker 1: to recover. They've been fun, so we will see how

800
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Speaker 1: bocci ball turns out. If anybody is listening before we

801
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: record this and you have any sort of tips, please

802
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 1: let me know. Add Danny Siak on any social media

803
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: because I will probably need all the help I can

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00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: get because my ja's arms are about three times as

805
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: long as mine, I would say is a fair assumption,

806
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: which would probably give him the advantage from the very

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00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: little I know about bought you ball, so any help

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Speaker 1: I can get. Well, I've enjoyed it. Credit to you,

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00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: your idea and execution by the entire digital department, but

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash Asy Cardinals. They've been a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun and I look forward to seeing if the

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Speaker 1: streak continues. And that's all. Also, what a tease. Thanks Craig.

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Speaker 1: All right, and on that note, we will put a

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Speaker 1: lid on. This edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday,

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Joe Mamahundro for Danny Serek, I'm Craig

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Speaker 1: Rayel Loof. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.