WEBVTT - The OTP | NFL Scouting Combine Day 3 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:15.840 This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.840 You'll get lower deductibles and premiums and less hassles. Visit 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:24.520 FBHP dot com. Farm Bureau Health Plans has been protecting 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:29.200 Tennesseeans for seventy six years. Welcome back to the Indiana 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.240 Convention Center with Coach Dave McGinnis, Rhet Bryan, and Amy Wells. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.680 I'm Mike Keith. We are glad to have you for 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:40.440 the Official Titans Podcast. Kind Of an interesting time because 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.400 a lot of the media leaves at this point in 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.159 the week. On Thursday, coach mac and then sort of 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.400 the football takes over. People will wonder why does a 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.360 lot of the media leave. It's because they can't go 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:59.000 in and watch the workouts, and the workouts take center 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.120 stage starting today. Absolutely. Today's the day that they start 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.160 with the defensive line and the linebackers and then they 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.520 will progressively go through, you know, until Monday, with the 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.680 different positions. The first three days that we have been here, 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.800 it has been all media because you've got the interviews 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.520 at the platform, at the podium, you've got every team 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.080 represented here on the floor. That is bringing people in 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.760 to do a lot of different things. Titans Radio has 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.640 beaten everybody by bringing in interviews and content, but now 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.120 it's starting to get to the football part of it. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.160 On the floor. Ongoing has been with the players interviewing 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.360 with teams both in the in the what we call 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.319 the train station interviews. And also they're not at the 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.920 train station anymore. They're on the consoon to all used 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.840 to be, but they're on the concourse now, but they 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.000 still call them the train station interviews. And then the 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.360 formal interviews that gone over at theay at the Holidame. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.160 But the media is allowed into none of that. So 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.760 the part that the media has total access to is 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.280 winding up pretty quick. Players at the podiums. Ret Brian 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.680 has been there for a lot of that when we 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.840 have not taken his time to join us. The defensive 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:14.079 linemen have spoken, they have. The linebackers have spoken. They 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.960 have the defensive backs have spoken, yes, they have. To 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.760 this point, anything or anybody jump out to you A 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.519 couple of things as I look back at my notes here. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.000 Caleb Murphy a very interesting young man and one of 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.440 the stories coming out of this combine. One of the 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.600 three Division two players invited to the combine from Ferris State. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.080 He's the pass rusher. He's the pass rusher. He's the 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.519 Ted Hendricks Award winner twenty five and a half sacks 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.960 at Ferriss State last year. And now he's light. He's 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.880 gonna measure in nearly six to five, about two fifteen. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.920 He needs to add some functional strength. But a really 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:56.840 nice young man, Dylan Horton, Frog TCU. That's a good prospect. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.760 Ali Gay. This is a pass rush or from LSU 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:06.880 who is from what is called the Smiling Coast of Gambia. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.560 Came here when he was a young fellow, like a 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.160 lot of you know, the Samokawanus that we have a 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.760 lot of those stories like that. His father came here 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.240 in two thousand and seven and until they were given 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.960 asylum to leave, he didn't see his dad for four years. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.200 Has a very interesting story there. But he's a good 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.400 prospect from LSU who has not only a lot to 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.600 prove here this week and in a good edge rusher class, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.360 but has an interesting story in background. Will McDonald a 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.800 fourth who if we have mentioned on the OTP a 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.000 couple of times this week, who was at the Senior 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.480 Bowl edge rusher Iowa State. That's right, who is heading 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:49.360 towards two hundred and fifty pounds playing wait Klijah Kancy 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.880 I found interesting to speak to. He was the defensive 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.640 lineman from pitt who is gonna get some comparisons because 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.800 of his size too. And Aaron Donald roughly six feet 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:05.240 to eighty that's correct, he's currently at two eighty. Syracuse 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.800 cornerback Garrett Williams is interesting. He's a guy that has 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.240 come off of an acl in the last two or 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.840 three months and heard him telling some great stories. Perhaps 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.280 the guy I think that has taken the podiums in 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.360 these first three or four days is the pass rusher 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.960 from Georgia, Nolan Smith. He was holding court and just 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:30.839 was absolutely that great personality. And then Julius Brents, who 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.880 we saw at the Senior Bowl, who's the cornerback from 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.880 Kansas State of really long prospects. He six three. He's 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.560 gotta be he's gonna have because he was a big, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.320 tall drink of water heading up to the podium. But 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.440 perhaps the most impressive person who passes the eye test 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.800 is Joey Porter Junior from Penn State. When you see 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.719 the preliminary stuff that says he's six two one eight legit. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.239 He looks the part that looks like a first round 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:02.719 draft pick cornerback who is a long He and Julius 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.560 Sprince are probably two of the longer cornerbacks in this 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.640 thing than in wingspanning those things. He's the he said today, 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.599 he's the number one cornerback in this draft. Sounds a 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.640 lot like his dad. You know the reason he said 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.320 that's because he probably is. He may be, he may be, 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.400 he's got he's got it, he's got a chance, he's 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.719 got a chance to be. But he's definitely a first 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.839 round pick, and he's somebody that the Titans have been 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:29.680 mocked with at number eleven. May not be there at eleven, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.520 may already be gone. Certainly would be good value at 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.240 eleven to get a corner of that with that size 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.320 and the sort of ability and not surprisingly not scared 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.520 to play the run, No, absolutely not. And then knowing, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.560 of course, knowing the bloodlines and having very close knowledge 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.440 of his father during the years in the in the 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.520 afc uh, you know this guy and you can tell 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.400 that he you can kind of tell some of the 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.000 some of these players that have grown up with a 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.760 father that has not only been an NFL player, but 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.279 as been an accomplished NFL player. If these if these 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.560 guys show any type of affinity at all for the 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.400 game from a young age, their dads start teaching them 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.320 very very well. And so he's one of them. I 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.520 like a corner with confidence though, a guy who he's 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.440 the best guy on the field. I'll take that any day. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.480 It as big as this dude is, yeah, he can 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.799 handle the physicality. He would not be afraid of contact 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.960 at all. Let me ask you a question as we 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.400 get ready to play our first interview, Dave McGinnis give 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:34.920 us a quick explanation of who Cio Brocado was. Ceo Brocado. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.520 It started out my first reference with him was when 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.239 he was a coaching He was coaching at the University 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.120 of Texas at Arlington. He recruited me out of high 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.719 school to come to UTA because someone that went to 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.800 my high school went and played and one of his 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.120 better players good Texas named Billy Ray Stewart. Well, Billy 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.000 Ray played for CEO, and then CEO recruited me and 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.560 I said, no, you know, I'm going to the Southwest 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.960 Conference school. But you know, we had it. We had 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.480 a connection and so as we as we moved forward. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.320 He got his first job with the Houston Oilers as 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.799 a scout, and then CEO would come through the schools. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.880 CEO would always be the first scout, might come through 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.360 the building and know all the secretary's names and have 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.160 donuts for everybody, And all of a sudden, then when 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.560 he when you know, I was always in when I 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.880 was playing, I didn't know this, but he evaluated me. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.200 Then when I was a graduate assistant, I was in 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.160 charge of the guys that would the pro scouts that 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.640 would come in, and all of a sudden, he'd say, hey, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.400 you want to learn about what I'm looking for, sit 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.520 down and watch this. And so anyway, he has taught 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.800 so many He was an innovator in this in this 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.960 league as a scout and in his career. We're lucky 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.240 because we were around him. I coached, you know, on 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.160 the Titans when he was so I've known him for 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.720 a long time since my high school days. This guy 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.400 was an innovator in the in the field of scouting, 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:53.120 the three cone drill. Here his seal Racado is so 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.840 well known. When CEO really got sick, and I will 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.320 say this, he really got sick. Could not the first 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.520 combine he could not be at he he always had 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.640 the lead chair at the forty yard line. To time 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.200 when he was not here, they put an empty chair 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.440 at the forty yard line and everybody knew that was 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.920 for CEO. Safe to say that he has the biggest tree, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.360 if you talk about like a coaching tree, he has 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.679 the biggest scouting tree in NFL history. Very very fair 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.520 with that, and even people that aren't on teams, scouts 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.600 for teams, people that are now in the draft business 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.280 and one of the better young ones going that you know, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.080 we sat We sat here with CEO. Yes, and I 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:38.160 think you're completely right. The roots and the branches of 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.760 his tree go very wide in this league. So that 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:45.080 will explain the first part of our conversation with one 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.760 of those great draft analysts who was CEO Brocado trained 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.840 our visit with the Athletics, Dame Breuthler. Right now on 0:08:52.960 --> 0:09:02.840 the OTP Amy Wells, we are sitting across the table 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.199 from two guys who were trained by CEO Bracada coach 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.600 Dave McGinnis and Dane Brugler from the Athletic. You have 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.079 great company right there with you, and trust me, and 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.840 that is it is an absolute honor to be in 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.480 that company because, I mean, learning from CEO was something 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.200 that to this day still shapes how I watched football, 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.520 and it's it's the foundation of u for me as 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.680 an evaluator. So it's invaluable experience that you just can't replicate, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.680 you know, Dane. I go back when I was playing 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.440 at TCU, CEO came through and was the one that 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.280 scouted me with my group, and so I have known 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.680 CEO since well, he even when I was getting ready 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.559 to choose a school, when he was coaching at the 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.360 University of Texas at Artis Arlington. He's a linebacker coach, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.800 and so he came. But anyway, watching your work through 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.920 the years, you know, like I've done, and knowing CEO 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.280 as well as I've known him. I think I took 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:06.440 CEO to his last workout at TCU, you know when 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.719 he was you know, when we were losing him. I mean, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:13.280 and it was just cel Brocado is and we were 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.760 talking earlier. Ceale Brocado should be in the Hall of Fame, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.160 should be should be fame. But watching your work, you 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.480 can see CEO in it. Well I appreciate I mean 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.480 that that's That's the highest compliment you could give me. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.319 If I didn't see it, I wouldn't tell you no. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.600 And I mean I've told the story before, but just um, 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.600 it was the year that Andy Dalton was coming out 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.760 and um going to TCU's Pro day four CEO, stopping 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.640 in Arlington at his house on the way to go, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.920 and just going through every single okay you know, uh, 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.960 Jeremy Curley and Andy Dalton and going through all these 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.720 players and how do he look? How what'd he do this? 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.480 And even then, even though he couldn't physically be there, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.600 the questions he was he was asking like him he 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.480 mentally he was still sharp. He was still wanting to know, Okay, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.199 what was the stance, what was he what kind of 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.040 routes was he running? Um? You know, Andy Dalton, how 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.040 was the ball coming off his and um, I mean 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.760 this is the the guy that created the three cone drill, 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.440 you know, those created the way we evaluate football. So um, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.880 you know, just being I mean I only knew him 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.160 or got a chance to learn from him for a 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.120 couple of years, So it wasn't um, you know, extensive 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:15.840 period of time, but it was, well it was I 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.760 learned more from him than I did from you know, 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.000 most people said I knew him my whole career, my 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.880 whole career starting yet TCU. So anyway, see I was 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.960 a special man. You've been to his house. How about 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.160 all the stuff he had stacked, all the films and 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.040 when you walk into his house. Yeah, I mean it 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:35.240 was like horders, right, and you had tunnels, right, you 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.240 had to go through, and he had all kind of gear, 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.920 you know, and there and then all all kind of tapes, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:45.160 all tapes of every type, just stacked everywhere. Special special 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:50.200 dude in the car. Yeah, yeah, absolutely that that that 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:54.640 baby blue color and you know, his his daughter going 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.880 to the door, and his daughter, Uh, lets us in, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.719 and you know, I'm just navigating through everything and just 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.160 slip at her and she rolls her eyes, and you 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.160 know she she grew up with that. You know, she 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.240 knew her dad. And yeah, anyway, good stuff. We're gonna 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.480 pick your brain about offensive line, okay, because the Titans 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.080 have offensive line needs the most economical place to get 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.920 at least some, if not all, of the offensive lineman 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.160 that they need would be in this draft. A lot 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.240 of what we're seeing right now is them at eleven 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.680 taking a tackle do you see a match there for 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.480 the Titans that you like best? Well, I think you 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.560 look at the two tackles, and let's say Peter Scronsky 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.080 is a guard for this conversation, and I love Peter 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.280 Scronsky at Northwestern. I think he's the best offensive lineman 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.920 in this draft. Because of the arm length, a lot 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.480 of teams are going to move in the guard, and 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.160 I don't think that's necessarily, you know, a bad thing. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.679 I think his best his highest ceiling at the NFL 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.839 level could be inside a guard. I think he could 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.000 be on a Zach Martin trajectory. He is that good. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:59.200 But the two tackles, Broderick Jones from Georgia, Paris Johnson 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.280 from Ohio State. Uh, both these guys are future NFL starters. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.080 And Roderick Jones has probably the highest ceiling. He's just 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.200 he's such an athletic player. Um, still learning in ways, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.079 but he's so athletic. And then Paris Johnson moving over 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.360 from right guard to left tackle this year, he just 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.199 he's a natural left tackle. Um. You know I think 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.720 that you know, you don't see a lot of negative 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.640 reps on his tape when you when you study him, 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.839 give me a thumbnail of Paris Johnson if you would please, 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:29.840 he looks the part. I mean that's how you want 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.280 your left tackle to look. Um. I don't know that 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.360 he's necessarily an elite mover, but well more than good enough, 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.920 I mean above average with the way he moves. Um, 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.000 he can scoop out blocks. Um for a taller guy. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:47.760 Scouts speak really highly about his uh intangibles, his intelligence. Um, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.520 he's a really thoughtful guy. Um. You know he's an 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.120 All American this season for a reason with the way 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.520 he played protecting C. J. Stroud's blindside. And um, you 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.400 know that it's it's hard to hunt for apps on 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.440 film where he was beat You know, you just don't 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.400 see a lot of them. Maybe you watch the national 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.680 chant or the semifinal game of the Playoff. A Georgia 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.320 player would get him or here or there, but it 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.360 was rare for a team for a player just to 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.679 beat him straight up off the edge. Breakdown. Broderick Jones 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.320 the same way if you would play a super athlete 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.480 for that size, and you know, and look in the 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.600 offseason something he get down to two eighty five at 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.760 times because he's just a leaner athlete. But then he 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.760 put it back on. He's up to three fifteen. You know, 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.840 you watch him shoot baskets. He looks like a natural 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.800 basketball player with the way he moves out there. There 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.400 are times where you know he needs to get the 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.560 hands and the feet on the same page and technically 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.320 not where you want, but the ceiling where he could 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.440 be down the road. That gets you excited. So he's 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.520 a good player now, but you draft him in the 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.680 top fifteen because he could be a great player down 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.520 the road. I want to talk about Peter Scronsky again 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.160 a little bit because we see so many guys saying 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.440 I'm not a guard, I'm a tackle, and a lot 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.560 of that is because of the financial implication a tackle 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.680 can become in the National Football League. Is there anything 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.800 that he could do in the combine, at a pro day, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.080 throughout this process to show teams that he's more of 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.480 a tackle or is this truly going to come down 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.000 to just body type and measurements and things like that. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:16.960 That's what will come down too. And I think if 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.320 I'm Peter Scronsky, I'm just gonna say, hey, watch my tape. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.480 I was a three year starter at left tackle, and uh, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.160 I dominated you know, Rashawn Slater opted out of that 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.040 twenty twenty season for Northwestern. You know what's Northwestern are 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.520 gonna do at left tackle if they got this true 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.200 freshman coming in Peter Scronsky, who has the bloodlines. His 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.480 grandfather played for Vince Lombardi and the Packers when in 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.000 those first two Super bowls. Um, you know he was, 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.440 he was really groomed for this, uh, this opportunity. The 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.880 body type is he looks more like a guard, there's 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.000 no way around that. But I do hope he gets 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.960 the chance to stay outside a tackle because the processing, 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.360 the feet h and then just how detailed he is, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.440 how how technically sound he is. That that's uh, I 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.120 think that give him a chance to stay at tackle. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.440 If if a team get that opportunity, can we can 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.640 we do the same thing with some interior guys because 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.680 I've you know, the Titans need both. Yep. I mean 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.320 that's just that's just where they are. Osire's Torrents. Yeah. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.920 You want a power guy, you know, a mall or 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:15.880 a guy that's gonna when he gets his hands on you, 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.760 it's over. And his his hands are I mean they're 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.840 over eleven inches, they're huge, huge, myths and so, um, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.320 you know he's I really respect him because he was 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.800 highly thought of at Louisiana. After his junior year. He 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.640 didn't have to transfer. No, he could have stayed at 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.920 Louisiana and he would have been a top forty pick. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.640 He wanted to challenge himself. He said, I'm gonna go 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.200 to the SEC. I'm gonna face SEC defensive lineman week 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.080 in week out. And uh he did, and he dominated. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.560 He played really well, didn't give up a sac this year. Um, 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.480 you know, the Florida offense was a little up and down, 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.600 but not right guard. Right guard. You knew what you 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.320 were getting every single day. And so if you if 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.080 you were looking for a you know, a really mobile 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.800 range player, he's maybe he's not the guy, but he's 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.760 more than athletic enough to do, you know, execute the 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.359 blocks that NFL offenses needs you to execute. So to me, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.359 he's Osiris Torrance the top If Peter Scronsky is a tackle, 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.120 then Osiris Torrence is the top guard this year. Okay, 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.520 let's do this. Let's go to the other spectrum of it. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.040 Now we're talking about a guy that moved from Louisiana 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.120 to the SEC let's talk about a smaller school guy 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:24.040 that Cody Mauk. Another guy who's just he's fun, fun 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.199 to watch and you know, talk about his backstory. He 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.840 was a walk on tight end at North North Dakota State. UM. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.960 You know, you look at his background growing up on 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.880 a farm, and you know he's he's got it. Comes 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.400 from a big family and you know that that country 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.000 strong you talk about. I mean, that's that's what he is. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.800 Played smaller football in high school, so he did a 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.800 little bit of everything. But he goes to North Dakota State, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.320 puts on the weight, uh, you know, adds something like 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.640 seventy pounds UM, and he becomes a left tackle and 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.320 another guy that position will be interesting how teams look 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.080 at him because he's a little light in the the 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.719 lower body, doesn't have maybe the sand that you look 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.000 forward down below. But you know, he's really quick, he's 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.840 he's mean, loves to play the game, and so I 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.639 he might have the most versatility of this group. You know, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.000 we don't play him center, guard, tackle. I wouldn't be 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.960 surprised if four years from now we look back and 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.840 he's the best center from this class. He has that 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.600 type of ability. So yeah, Cody mock Uh. You know, 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.399 the mentality is there, the ability is there. He's going 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.760 to be a good player, and I think he's well deserving. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.320 I'm a top forty pick. As we've mentioned, the Titans 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.359 have multiple needs on the offensive line. It's not just 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.199 one role to fill. There are a couple different places 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.080 where they could use a little bit of help. Do 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.760 you think it is conceivable that the Titans are drafting 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.800 multiple offensive linemen for the future of this team in 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.199 one draft? There's no question, absolutely, And you know I 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.000 think that we could, you know, first two rounds. Why not? 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.600 You know, the goal of the draft is to build 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.399 your team, make it better who you know, and you 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.639 can make the argument that there will be no greater 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.800 impact on this roster than building in the unoffensive line, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.520 so that I wouldn't be surprising at off we see 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.680 them double dip offensive line inside outside, you know, first round, 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.760 second round, third round. That that's I think that's definitely 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.080 a possibility. And you don't predetermine that going into the draft. 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.800 You know, I think that you see how the board 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:21.240 falls to you, but this is a I don't I 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.960 don't I wouldn't call it a strong offensive line group. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.359 But there's definitely good players, but I don't know if 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.120 it's I wouldn't call it deep at those positions. So 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:31.800 if you have one that's there for you, and say 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.920 say they go offensive tackle in the first round, say 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.400 in the second round, maybe they're targeting like a playmaker, 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.240 say they want to get a wide receiver or someone 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.520 like that. But you know what, there's ay a really 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.360 an offensive lineman they have graded pretty highly, is there 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.159 for him. It be is hard to say no to 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.719 that because you have to when the when an offensive 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.560 lineman's there, and especially in this draft, you got to pounce. 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.600 And I think the Titans could absolutely do. Though. Dane 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.760 Brugler from the Athletic I know he's a tight end, 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.880 but he has OH line size. How do you characterized 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:06.440 Darnell Washington from Georgia unicorn Ian? You just not many 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.480 guys that I tell you. He is the leanest two 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.840 hundred eighty pounds I've ever seen. I've been I look 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.840 at body dice for a living, you know, and it's 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:20.040 I've never seen a body type quite like him. He's 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.440 he doesn't have the receiving production that you ideally want 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.080 at the college level, but The reason he didn't is 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:28.960 because he was too valuable as a blocker. He was 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.080 a sixth offensive lineman for that Georgia offense. And you know, 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.000 with Brock Bowers on that team at Georgio, you know, 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.879 why are you going to force feed Darnell Washington more 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.560 and more targets when the value he brings on the 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.880 offensive line as an inline player is so great that 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.679 you want to keep him there. So now what is 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.760 he in the NFL? Is that the same role as 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.879