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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, our time is just

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Speaker 1: about over heroic training camp. That is, Hey, we're not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere, so what did we learn? What questions do

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Speaker 1: we still have? And keep in mind there are still

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Speaker 1: over two weeks to go until Week one. First though,

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Speaker 1: maybe the number of player wears isn't always that big

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Speaker 1: the latter. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode four fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in a touchdown

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. So right

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Speaker 1: off the top, MJ, we have to acknowledge Andy Lee,

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Speaker 1: the elder statesman on the team. He's got the most

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Speaker 1: NFL experience and news yesterday that he is changing numbers.

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Speaker 1: He's worn number four for the majority of his career,

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Speaker 1: decided to wear our number fourteen, which became available after

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Speaker 1: the release of Jojo Award. Like it, love it even

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Speaker 1: better because now rondel Moore gets to switch from eighty

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Speaker 1: five to four, which is what he wore in college.

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like everyone is happy, But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like Andy Lee is a little bit heavier

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Speaker 1: He's going into his eighteen season. He was actually part

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Speaker 1: if I'm Andy Lee, I guess we've got to find out,

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Speaker 1: you know, And we're never gonna know what the actual

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Speaker 1: number was, but you know, money talks. Craig, Yes, it does,

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Speaker 1: and head coach Cliff Kingsbury kind of let open the

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Speaker 1: rondel Moore, quote had to be four. It he does

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Speaker 1: not like spending money at all, so it hurt him,

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Speaker 1: And of course there was a follow up because earlier

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Speaker 1: and for all the right reasons, of course, first off

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. All right, So Kyler Murray's one, chases

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Speaker 1: guys changing from thirty five now to a single digit. Well,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I'm a little old school, maybe

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Speaker 1: It's episode five titled Take the Lead, and that episode

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Speaker 1: like we've seen around the league, like in Seattle. These

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Speaker 1: players are on the football field competing and that says

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Speaker 1: a lot about them. And I do think Chandler Jones

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Speaker 1: is poised to have a great season coming off an

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Speaker 1: injury and then a course, with the addition of JJ Watt,

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Speaker 1: how much that might take some of the attention away

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Speaker 1: from fifty five to allow Jones to do what he

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Speaker 1: does best. And let's get after the quarterback. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Marcus Spears, and I really liked

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Speaker 1: that NFL Live show. They've made a lot of progress,

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Speaker 1: you know, Mina Kian, Yes, And he came out and said,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't think about this, He said, Chandler Jones

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Speaker 1: to his fresh legs. He only played five games last year.

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Speaker 1: We know that he came in a little heavy. He's

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Speaker 1: in great shape right now. He thinks he's gonna lead

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Speaker 1: the league in sacks somewhere abound seventeen eighteen. I mean, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's betting on himself. And then you know, we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens after the season. But Marcus Spears said, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't think about that, right, He came in much

447
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Speaker 1: better shape. He's energized, he's smiling out there, he's having fun,

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Speaker 1: he's flying around. These guys love football, you know. According

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Speaker 1: to J. J. Watt, there's there's a handful of guys

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Speaker 1: on defense it just love football, and he's one of them.

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Speaker 1: So I like what Marcus Spears is saying because you know, again,

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Speaker 1: if he could stay healthy, he's gonna put up double

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Speaker 1: digits in sacks. No one has more sex than Chandler

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Speaker 1: Jones ninety seven since twenty twelve, and he's five and

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Speaker 1: a half sacks, Shy Freddy Joe Nunns mark of sixty

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Speaker 1: six and a half for the all time mark where

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Speaker 1: the Aros on the Cardinals, and that's just a number

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Speaker 1: that I don't think anyone expected Jones to reach. Yet

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Speaker 1: here he is, and he's on it in a very

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Speaker 1: short amount of time, and hopefully this is not his

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Speaker 1: final season with the Arizona Cardinals. But thoroughly impressed by

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Speaker 1: Hicks and Jones and how they've handled things here in

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Speaker 1: training camp. Also been impressed, and you brought him up

464
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Speaker 1: as well. Colt McCoy, the player we hope to never

465
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Speaker 1: see in twenty twenty one, Cult McCoy, the backup quarterback,

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Speaker 1: the man who is in the year of Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that is a voice that one

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray will listen to and then also be a

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Speaker 1: second set of eyes for Murray as far as diagnosing

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Speaker 1: what opposing defenses are going to do. It's a veteran

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Speaker 1: in that quarterback's room that I do not think Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray had the past two seasons. Again, that's nothing against

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Speaker 1: Brett Huntley, but McCoy has the experience, plus is a

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Speaker 1: Texas quarterback, and Kyler Murray looks up to all things

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Speaker 1: Texas being from that area. He grew up watching Coulton McCoy.

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Speaker 1: Yes they went to different colleges, but Colt McCoy was

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Speaker 1: a stud in high school and in college and now

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Speaker 1: he's in that room to help Kyle Murray take that

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Speaker 1: next step. And the key here is that Kyler's teaching

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Speaker 1: him the offense. So there's where he can help him

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Speaker 1: is recognizing coverages. You know, go through your progressions if

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Speaker 1: you see this kind of defense, and clearly they're you're

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Speaker 1: watching film together. But the fact is Kyler's teaching him

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Speaker 1: the offense, and he's teaching him what it's like to

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Speaker 1: break to hudd on what the defense looks like. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Kyler he's aware of it, but just to get pointers.

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Speaker 1: If you see this safety doing this, then all of

488
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you got one on one coverage on the outside.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that he's teaching him in the offense

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Speaker 1: and he's teaching him how to be a veteran quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, it can only help each other well.

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Speaker 1: And even when McCoy has been on the field in

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Speaker 1: preseason action, he's looked very solid. He's throwing the ball well,

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Speaker 1: he's read defenses, he's gotten everyone in correct position, he's

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Speaker 1: moved the football up and down the field. So if

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, then again let's hope it never happens.

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Speaker 1: You feel comfortable, You feel confident that you have someone

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines that could spell Kyle the Murray for

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Speaker 1: a series or two, or if necessary, maybe a week

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Speaker 1: or two, and then not lose your position, either within

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Speaker 1: the NFC West or the entire NFC because you have

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Speaker 1: a capable backup behind QB one. Like I said day,

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Speaker 1: you know, last year in camp, we just assumed Hunley

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Speaker 1: was going to be the backup. There was no preseason

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Speaker 1: games and I didn't know this until camp started, but

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Speaker 1: Hunley did not perform very well. And then that they

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Speaker 1: had the intrigue with Chris Streveler to where maybe tysom

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Speaker 1: Hill short yardage, even though you don't take Murray off

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Speaker 1: the field. So it's it's night and day. And Strevelers

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Speaker 1: actually improved. I mean he has, he has. I mean

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Speaker 1: last year, you know, it was difficult in that game

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Speaker 1: for him. He was throwing the mix no preseason the

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Speaker 1: games a lot faster than he was throwing the ball,

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Speaker 1: and that wasn't good. Here he's making better decisions and

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Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball much better, and you could see

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Speaker 1: he's more comfortable in this offense considering it's his second year.

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Speaker 1: A couple of the things bird ganging that we learned

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Speaker 1: here in training camp one, and it was a question

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Speaker 1: mark Matt Prador will have no trouble kicking off this season.

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Speaker 1: And we had an opportunity to speak with Matt's earlier

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Speaker 1: this week on the Cardinals Red see report. A great

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Speaker 1: conversation and can catch it in the archives on easy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com. But Matt Prador is certainly excited about

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Speaker 1: being here, and then mentioned to us that, Look, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't asked to kick off in Detroit. They had someone

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Speaker 1: who could handle it. And now he's here with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: They want him to kick off, and whether that's kicking

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Speaker 1: deep or angling it, kicking it short, I do hope

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Speaker 1: to see this team kick the ball short and rely

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Speaker 1: on those coverage units to pin the opposing offense inside

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Speaker 1: the twenty yards. I'm paraphrasing here, but he didn't mention

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Speaker 1: how impress of the special units are, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: covering kicks. And I think that goes back to Jeff Rogers.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's assistant head coach, special teams coordinator. You know,

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Speaker 1: I have been put on five day eight guys, and

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Speaker 1: we know when it comes to a long snapper, the punter,

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Speaker 1: and the kicker, they're going to be there. But the

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Speaker 1: fact is that, you know, again, if if Prater was

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Speaker 1: on the team last year, Cardinals would have made the playoffs. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because they lost I believe it was three games by

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Speaker 1: a field goal, and you make that kick and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this team is in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and hopefully maybe making a run in the postseason. That's

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Speaker 1: what everyone expects here in twenty twenty one. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's tongue in cheek. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see twenty two yard field goals, but hey, if he

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Speaker 1: got to get points, he has seven's better than nothing.

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Speaker 1: Get the three. But when they get in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: I think with the addition to James Connor and AJ

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Speaker 1: Green and Rondel Moore and Chase and even Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: I can see this team the efficiency in the red

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Speaker 1: zone scoring touchdowns should go up. The other thing we learned,

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Speaker 1: and nothing official, but based on what we've seen and

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Speaker 1: what we've heard, four not three running backs are likely

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Speaker 1: to make the team one because of how good you know,

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Speaker 1: Benjamin has looked, and how well this team likes Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Ward and the special team's game. But then we heard

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Speaker 1: the question from Darren Urban mcarleagun easy Cardinals dot com.

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Speaker 1: He has specifically asked Kingsbury, can you see this team

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Speaker 1: keeping four running backs? And without hesitation, Kingsbury said, I

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Speaker 1: do so. You know, again, a lot can happen between

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Speaker 1: now and you got to make your final fifty three

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Speaker 1: man roster. But but at this way, MG, I would

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Speaker 1: be more surprised if the number was three running backs

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Speaker 1: as opposed to four. No, I mean we can sit here.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a horse in the race. I just

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Jonathan Moored. I think he's

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Speaker 1: similar to Chase Edmonds and James Conner. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more physical downhill runner. Eno Benjamin has

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Speaker 1: had a great offseason and carried over to training camp.

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Speaker 1: It's carried over to the preseason. We're going to see him.

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Speaker 1: The question becomes how many running backs are active on

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Speaker 1: game day? If Rondel Moore is your return, punt returner

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Speaker 1: and kick return, there's no spots for you know, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: warplays teams and he's also a guy that can run out.

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably as fluid as Eno when it

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Speaker 1: comes to pass protection and also catching the ball. The

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Speaker 1: backfill you can put him in the slot. So now

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Speaker 1: the question, but I listen, all four are deserving. We

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Speaker 1: know about the top two. But I think Eno really

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Speaker 1: showed up this offseason. He told us on the Red

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Speaker 1: Sea Report he had a conversation with Steve Kin. They

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Speaker 1: believed him, and you know, Cliff kind of described him

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Speaker 1: as a you know, a good solid runner where he

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Speaker 1: hits the whole pretty quick, and we know that the

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Speaker 1: numbers he put up in college. But I there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt in my mind four will make it. It's just

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Speaker 1: how many you are active on game date, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta think Ward would have the advantage. Yeah, I agree

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Speaker 1: with that, but I could see certain situations, certain weeks

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Speaker 1: where all four running backs are active, and I think

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Speaker 1: that would just depend on a numbers game. As far

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Speaker 1: as at other positions, because a year ago we did

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Speaker 1: see I think it was maybe once or twice, you know,

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Speaker 1: four tight ends. Handful of times there were three tied

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Speaker 1: ends active just because if you know, Benjamin has given

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to return kicks and maybe you don't want

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Speaker 1: as much wear and tear and rondel more for him

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Speaker 1: to handle both. Then I could see all four running

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Speaker 1: backs active. But I do agree with you that Jonathan Ward,

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Speaker 1: what he offers special teams wise, he's a little bit

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Speaker 1: ahead of you know, Benjamin on that depth chart. Now

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Speaker 1: as far as running backs, there you do things a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. But when you're the third running back,

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Speaker 1: there's no guarantee you're gonna get into a carry. You

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Speaker 1: might get zero, probably won't get any because a lot

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Speaker 1: of that's gonna go to Edmonds and James Connor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I look at you know, and I think he's got

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Speaker 1: a similar skill set to Chase Edmonds. I don't know about,

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Speaker 1: you know, catching the ball in the open field. The

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Speaker 1: guy you didn't mention, Kyler Murray. Yeah, you don't need

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Speaker 1: to dress four on game day. I just don't want

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Speaker 1: to see number one run a lot because if he's

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Speaker 1: running a lot, then that says something about the offense

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Speaker 1: and I'll have flashbacks to last year and I'm fair

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Speaker 1: with that, but don't put the handcuffs on him. I

617
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Speaker 1: know that he hasn't been able to, you know, be

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Nobody is in a month of December

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Speaker 1: or first week in January. But that's who he is.

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Speaker 1: He's a dual threat. If he wants to put the

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Speaker 1: ball down and run pick up the first down, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna slide. So again, it's a luxury, but we have

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Speaker 1: to include him in this running back conversation. True, and

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Speaker 1: we sometimes forget about that. And I appreciate you reminding

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Speaker 1: me here on Cardinals Covered two present to buy Hunday

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals surprises this training camp.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you two and you can either agree

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00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: or disagree, or throw someone else at you or out

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Speaker 1: at me. The biggest surprise for me is AJ Green

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Speaker 1: if healthy, and we saw him healthy at the start

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Speaker 1: of training camp and at the end of training camp.

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00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: He missed some time in between. If healthy, he can

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Speaker 1: have a very very good season in this offense. Because,

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Speaker 1: as we've talked about a lot, he is not the

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. He's fine with that. I think

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Speaker 1: he'll relish that. But as much as people will focus

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Speaker 1: on the other guy, DeAndre Hopkins, I think A J.

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Speaker 1: Green is going to have a number of targets and

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Speaker 1: what does he do with those targets and how he

640
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Speaker 1: can help this offense move the football. I'm not surprised.

641
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Everything we heard in the offseason, from the quarterback, from

642
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: the head coach, the flight plan, I'm not surprised. He's

643
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: got to stay healthy. If I look at a surprise,

644
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: you just see a name on paper and a draft pick.

645
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Marcol Wilson, I've got him written down as well, Yes,

646
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: without question. And then Victor d mcg yeah. I mean

647
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna make the roster. Nothing against you know,

648
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: Tay Gown and Wiggins and possibly Michael Manette. Oh no,

649
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean marcol Wilson. You know he's gonna get a

650
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: lot of time, I would assume in this Saints game.

651
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, he's the he's the fourth corner.

652
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: He's one play away from being one of the top

653
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: three corners. In camp, and when fans weren't attendance, there

654
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: were a couple of times where we did see Marco

655
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: Wilson get some reps with the first team defense. Now,

656
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: I do think there's gonna be a rotation with that

657
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: cornerback room. But yeah, I would put Marco Wilson as

658
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise because with Day three draft picks, you

659
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to handle things that jump

660
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: from offseason to the training camp to preseason and an

661
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: extra large playbook. I do understand. Yes, he's from Florida.

662
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: He would played and competed against the best in the SEC,

663
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: but there is a difference. But I'll say this that

664
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: time in the Southeastern Conference has prepared him for the

665
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: National Football League. And I like a swagger. I mean

666
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: it's not cocky, it's not arrogant. He's comfortable in his

667
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: own skin. It's gonna be interesting. If we can fast

668
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: forward to week one, September twelfth, if the Titans come

669
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: out two wide receivers, it's gonna be I would assume

670
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Robert Alford and Byron and Murphy because

671
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, at certain points, you know

672
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Melcolm Butler if teams go three white, which seventy percent.

673
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: But I gotta think if they go two wide receivers

674
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: and they go with some tight ends obviously to load

675
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: upon the box with Derrick Henry, I think you're definitely

676
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna see Alfred and Byron Murphy out there, and then

677
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: when they go three wide, we're gonna see Malcolm Butler.

678
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: There was a thought with the addition dark was de

679
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Nard and Darryl Worley, that you could bring Wilson along

680
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: a little bit slowly, and I think that's what a

681
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: lot of teams do when you have a draft pick

682
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: and you're looking to make an investment, not just one season,

683
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: but seasons. And I think Wilson has surprised enough people

684
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: or done enough to where it's okay, maybe we don't

685
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: need to go out and look for anyone else. And

686
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: if Denard and Warley are healthy, if they've done enough

687
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: here in training camp. You can keep that veteran around

688
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: as a backup just in case. If you go with

689
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: five cornerbacks. That does leave Tay Gallant out of the

690
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: mix at the moment. But your top three are veterans Murphy,

691
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: Butler and Alfred And then here comes a rookie, Marco Wilson,

692
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: who let's hope that this is a draft pick that

693
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: becomes the next Buyer and Murphy that becomes the next

694
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson because that cornerback position has not been addressed

695
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: in recent years outside of Murphy. When we talking about

696
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: the draft, well, we're gonna find out. And you know,

697
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Robert Alford's on a one year deal and Malcolm Butler's

698
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: on a one year deal. We know Murphy's on his

699
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: rookie contract. Listen, Marco Wilson's gonna dress on game day.

700
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna be on special teams. I'm told that dot

701
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: Quz Denard is still in the mix. He could play

702
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: a little safety, He can play inside and outside. But again,

703
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: how many corners do you dress on game day? So

704
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: maybe he's the fifth corner and I agree with you,

705
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: maybe they don't go out and look for another corner

706
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: because you know Van's fronts are very complex defense. I

707
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: mean a lot of pressure, a lot of man to man,

708
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: so you wouldn't got it's a name player. But I

709
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: think they like their room right now. Again, how many

710
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: do you dress on game day? Marco Wilson will be

711
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: active on game day. Some training camp standouts. I think

712
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot in that wide receiver room, Antoine Wesley,

713
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: Greg Dorge, Andre Butchelli. They've all had their moments, They've

714
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: all flashed, whether that means anything as far as the

715
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster or perhaps the practice squad. And

716
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: I think Max Williams has stood out as well. Not

717
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: a surprise like AJ Green, but has been steady throughout

718
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: training camp. And that's another guy. If healthy. If you

719
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: have a healthy Max Williams, then all of a sudden,

720
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: that middle of the field I think can be wide

721
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: open for Kyler Murray. I'd like eleven personnel three wide

722
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: Max Williams. I mean he's got good size, you know,

723
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: wearing number eighty seven. So I think there's a connection

724
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: down the seam and that's where Kyler Murray needs to

725
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: get improvement. Eleven to nineteen yards I mean, so Kyler's

726
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: in the gun, he sees Max release. Yes, all eyes

727
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: are gonna be on AJ Green, Ron Delmore, Christian Kirk

728
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Chase or hop it's wide open, and so I think

729
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be a connection. And I think last

730
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: year you've got a chance to see that with dan

731
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: Ardold going down the scene. Last season, Max Williams had

732
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: eight catches for one hundred and two yards and one touchdown,

733
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: but he missed seven games because of an ankle injury,

734
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: and that certainly hampered this offense. Now eight catches, one

735
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: hundred two yards and a touchdown for wide receivers, that's

736
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: one week's worth of work. But it's just the threat

737
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: to have a tied end on the field, someone that

738
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: can yes block and then to be an asset in

739
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the passing game as far as the ability to catch

740
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: the football, and I think Max Williams has made some

741
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: outstanding catches, a lot of them in traffic down the

742
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: middle of the field where you know you're going to

743
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: get hit, you're gonna get bumped, Can you hang onto

744
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: the football? And nine times out of ten Max has

745
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: done just that exactly. I mean, like I always consider

746
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: him to meet and potatoes and I do like to

747
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: pick up a Demerius Harris. You know, again, I think

748
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: the Cardinals key three tight ends Ross Travis could be

749
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: a practice squad option. I do think three will be

750
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: active on game day. Ll Daniels and these been a

751
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent, but I like it. And the

752
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: Cardinals have shown they'll go twelve personnel, which is two

753
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: tight ends and all of a sudden, now it gives

754
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray a little bit more time. You can run

755
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: out of that formation, you can spin the ball down

756
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: the field if he's got protection. So again, you can

757
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: always upgrade every position. But I think on paper, what

758
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: these tight ends are going to be asked. Let's be honest.

759
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: They're not going to throw the balls a ton to

760
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: the tight ends. No, they're not going to be targeted

761
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: a lot. But I do think they could have some

762
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: valuable targets, specifically on third and long and then in

763
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: the red zone, maybe inside the ten yard lost. Well, again,

764
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: you look at running backs and tight ends. It's about matchups,

765
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: is you know. That's what the NFL has gone through

766
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Running backs on linebackers

767
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: on running backs, mismatch tight ends on linebackers, mismatch, and

768
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: that's where you got to take advantage of matchups. And

769
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: that's where the league is going in again. You gotta

770
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: worry about hop, you gotta worry about Green, you gotta

771
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: worry about the other wide receiver. So Max, you know, again,

772
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: if he can get past the linebacker in front of

773
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: the safety, you're right, he's gonna get blown up a

774
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: few times. You take big hits when you catch up

775
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: on the scene. Now, it hasn't always been Rosie here

776
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: in training camp Bird Gang. There has been some disappointments.

777
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: And the biggest disappointment for me we talk about on paper,

778
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: and that is just the number of defensive linemen that

779
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: have been on paper and not on the football field.

780
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: And it began with JJ Watt, it continued with Jordan Phillips.

781
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: You've got Zack Allen who has been in and out

782
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: of the practices, Lucky Foe to Richard Lawrence. They've all

783
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: missed time. Luckily, this team was able to add Corey Peters,

784
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: who I think is gonna have a bigger role than

785
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: many people anticipated. Now a lot of those players we

786
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: talked about, Alan has returned, Foe too has returned. Richard

787
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence was back during the open portion of practice on Wednesday,

788
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: But it was the amount of reps that those players,

789
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: what your top four, your top five defensive lineman missed

790
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: a huge unk of training camp to where there's a

791
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: lot not known about how they are going to operate,

792
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: especially if that's the first line of defense against the

793
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: running game, where you're facing the Titans and Vikings weeks

794
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: one and two. I would be more concerned if you

795
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: told me these guys are you know, I'm going to

796
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: start the season on an ir and you can't do

797
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: that until you come up with the fifty three man roster.

798
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: I guess I'm disappointed in Jordan Phillips. It just hasn't

799
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: been able to stay healthy get on the field, because

800
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, they gave him a nice little contract and

801
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna need him, you know, JJ Watt,

802
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: I understand he came back earlier than I initially thought.

803
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: I think bringing Corey back makes a lot of sense.

804
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: Zach Allen, I think will continue to make progress. And

805
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: then you look at the two inside run stuffers. So

806
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: if we were sitting here talking about, well they gotta

807
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: go out and find a defensive tackle and free aidencer,

808
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: they're going to sign a guy off the street. That's

809
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: not the case. Unfortunately or for fortunately. It helped Michael Dogbe,

810
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: it helped Marcus Hunt, it helped Josh Morrow, you know

811
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: some of these other guys in Davidry was in here

812
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: until he got released, So it helps some other guys

813
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: gets you know, to me, Josh Morrow and Marcus Hunt,

814
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: I would consider those guys for the practice squad. And

815
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: that's what you like to see, is when someone goes

816
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: down or misses some time, there's an opportunity for someone

817
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: else to take advantage. And along that defensive line, a

818
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: number of players have taken that advantage. What's that mean?

819
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure it gives them confidence and certainly

820
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: confidence in those scouts in the front office who brought

821
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: them here. Can't keep everyone because you're going to keep

822
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: six and maybe seven and that seventh is that Dogby,

823
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: Is that Josh Morrow? Is that someone else? I do

824
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: like on paper your top six. It's just we haven't

825
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: seen those six players on the practice field and during

826
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: training camp. Well, the good news is, but we have

827
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: seen you know, JJ Watt participating drills. We have seen

828
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: Corey Peters participating drills. So that that's a plus. We

829
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: just haven't seen Jordan Fields. Listen, they're gonna have a

830
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: bye week next week, like all thirty two teams, they'll

831
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: get it ramped up and we'll see it. Even though

832
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be able to watch practice. I'm assuming

833
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: that's how they're gonna line up. And then, you know,

834
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: you want to have a good rotation, you know. You know,

835
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: JJ Watt was asked about, you know, playing x amount

836
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: of snaps and you know it's gonna be difficult in

837
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. You know, early in the season, if

838
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: he needs to breathe and you know the game's on

839
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: the line, he's going to be out there. And then

840
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: you get to December, what is his snap count? And

841
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Van Debaschi has really brought a lot

842
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: to the table, like bertrand Berry, is that you know,

843
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: maybe every third possession, just take him out, you know,

844
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: let him get his legs. You know, because you go

845
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: from playing you know, sixty five snaps to forty or

846
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: forty five, you're gonna be a lot fresher. And clearly

847
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: he's the physical guy. He plays with a lot of energy.

848
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: That story he told us about his first game was

849
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: it a preseason game, preseason game. His first preseason game,

850
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: he warmed up as of what was the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and was completely exhausted by the time kickoff arrived. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so's he's a season vet. But it's just, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's I just like see him in a Cardinal uniform

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Speaker 1: and he's got that big brace on where's number ninety nine?

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Speaker 1: I mean he just sticks out and when he does drills,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't you know. So like I said, I I'm

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Speaker 1: just already unwrapped the presence on Christmas. Absolutely, Week one

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Speaker 1: will be here before you know. It's finally, with respects

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Speaker 1: to Cardinals training Camp powered by Cox, the one story

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Speaker 1: that won't go away, and it will not go away

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Speaker 1: once we hit the regular season, and every team is

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Speaker 1: going to deal with it. The Cardinals are not alone.

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Speaker 1: They've had their issues. But COVID nineteen, we talk about

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Speaker 1: staying healthy, you also have to be a little lucky

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Speaker 1: to survive a full seventeen game regular season, get into

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Speaker 1: the postseason, make a run, get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And those teams that stay the healthiest, that are the luckiest,

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Speaker 1: with respects to COVID nineteen, they do everything that they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to and even then you can still test positive.

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Speaker 1: But it's sometimes and maybe most of the time, not

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Speaker 1: always about the talent, but some of those teams that

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Speaker 1: the breaks go their way, and hopefully here in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, the Cardinals get those breaks. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a story all year. And again, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to put you know, an extra, you know,

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Speaker 1: kick around the practice squad just because you're worried about that. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals numbers are good, you know. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to we'll find out going in this season, but over

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Speaker 1: ninety percent according to reports. Maybe some have their first test,

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Speaker 1: but you know, again, if you have if you're vaccinated

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Speaker 1: in somehow, you have symptoms and depending on how you feel,

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Speaker 1: you can return a lot sooner. So the majority of

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Speaker 1: the team, and we know the entire coaching staff is vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: so it can happen, but it's better to come back

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Speaker 1: within five days when no symptoms, you tests negative for

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Speaker 1: five days versus missing twelve the fourteen days where you

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Speaker 1: really can hurt your team. It is going to be

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Speaker 1: fascinating to pay attention to and of course we'll have

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Speaker 1: it all right here on Cardinals over two presented by Hunday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. There is one more

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Speaker 1: training camp practice on Thursday. We'll have a recap, but

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Speaker 1: also it's a lot about what we anticipate and hope

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Speaker 1: to see come preseason game number three against the Saints. Now,

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Speaker 1: is it like the last day of school now in Flagstaff?

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Speaker 1: I mean cars were running. Guys back their cars in.

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Speaker 1: They would load their cars because they stayed in the

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Speaker 1: dorm at the time, their pillows and TVs and fans

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Speaker 1: and video games, and they would they would literally, you know,

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Speaker 1: some guys wouldn't even take a shower. They go to

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Speaker 1: the locker room, maybe a quick shower. He put their

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Speaker 1: sweats on, and they would back their cars down and

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Speaker 1: then would drive down I seventeen. So I can't see

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Speaker 1: them being out of this field as long as they can.

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Speaker 1: I think Cliff knows that they're getting anty obviously knock

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Speaker 1: out this next preseason game. They're gonna leave on Friday

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Speaker 1: in the afternoon, and then hey, when they get back,

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Speaker 1: they got a bye week and then it's time to go.

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Speaker 1: It's go time, go time all the way. Let's hope

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Speaker 1: till the middle of February. Me up On that note,

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Speaker 1: let's put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim I'm a hundred

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Speaker 1: for Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Riel Loup. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two