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Speaker 1: always welcome anyone who's had any kind of experience out

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Speaker 1: the better we can all comprehend. Today, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the show, I have someone who has experienced various

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Speaker 1: paranormal phenomenon. I always say, if you guys want to

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Speaker 1: of the ordinary, I welcome you to come here and

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Speaker 1: for you to discuss it. So today I wanted to

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Speaker 1: do an opinion piece. We all have opinions when it

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Speaker 1: comes to some of these strange things that go on,

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Speaker 1: and I talked about a whole gamut of stuff, and

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Speaker 1: I've got something that's been on my mind that's just

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Speaker 1: UFO disclosure, and I want to read an article that

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Speaker 1: Washington Post, and the title of this article is thanks

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Speaker 1: to a Trump era COVID relief bill, a UFO report

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Speaker 1: official says, I'm going to read some of this here.

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Speaker 1: So last year's gar gant you in two point three

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Speaker 1: It provided millions of Americans badly needed coronavirus relief aid,

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Speaker 1: the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year, which itself carried

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Speaker 1: understated heading Advanced Aerial Threats, The stipulation mandates that the

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Speaker 1: Ratcliffe told Fox News the report must include detailed analysis

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Speaker 1: little bit more about that. Well, glory b Mr Ratcliffe,

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Speaker 1: My goodness, I'm sorry, But when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: But why make people feel so horrible about having witnessed

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Speaker 1: What is this alterior motive? You know there is because

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Speaker 1: of you, who has deceived you forever in a day.

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Speaker 1: But today they's just decided I'm gonna come clean, Heidi.

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Speaker 1: I I just I have a change in heart. There's

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Speaker 1: an agenda. Trust that there is an agenda. There is

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Speaker 1: no other level that you can go to. But they're

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Speaker 1: pulling something. Now. Conversation out there is well, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: other conversations where people are like, well they work with

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Speaker 1: Well are they having conversations with all these aliens? Is there? Like? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Two different factions, three different factions, fifteen different factions. I

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of different scenarios. And the enemy of

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Speaker 1: Have they supported you guys? No, No they haven't. So Okay,

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Speaker 1: that there are negative beings out there, because hello, there's

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Speaker 1: How are we going to say everybody in this neighborhood

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I believe there could be and I really

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Speaker 1: believe there is an alien threat out there. They are

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Speaker 1: not all our friends. Whether you believe in alien abductions

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Speaker 1: our friends. The people wearing rubber suits to look like

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Speaker 1: helps us to decipher between good and evil. We have

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Speaker 1: It's it. That's it. I want to talk a little

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Speaker 1: The Secret War, this battle is going to be a

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Speaker 1: they've been cheating quite a bit, but good always wins

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Speaker 1: you guys did some wrong stuff to a lot of

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Speaker 1: para Normal Podcast Network. Ah, welcome back. You are listening

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Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Up next, I have a fabulous guest who is just

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Speaker 1: like you, who has experienced things, research things, and wanted

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Speaker 1: to come on the program to share what it is

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Speaker 1: they've come across. Darryl Stengel. He is a retired education

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Speaker 1: teacher who is a paranormal and UFO experiencer as well

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Speaker 1: as being an investigator and researcher, and he hails from Fairfield, Iowa.

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Speaker 1: He is a certified hitting A therapist who is currently

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Speaker 1: looking into the Reptilian agenda and the Rainbow Tribe in

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Speaker 1: the Past Life Hypnotic Field. He has coincidentally come across

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Speaker 1: dealings with the hat Man, which is exactly what we're

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Speaker 1: going to get into today. So welcome to the show,

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Speaker 1: Darryl Stengel. Are you doing I'm doing fine. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Heinie for this opportunity. Yes, of course, I'm I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to have you come on. You know, we've connected several

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Speaker 1: times online and uh, we've chatted, and I believe we've

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Speaker 1: met in person. We met years ago at the Eureka

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00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: Springs um UFO conference. Yes, yes, that's awesome that and

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00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: it was there that I spoke about shadow People and

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: hat Man, and that's where you first heard of this

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00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: these two topics as well. Correct, that's right, that's right,

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00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: as well as hearing some of your broadcasts on Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast. Oh, yeah, that's that's awesome. I've been very

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00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: fortunate to have the opportunity to been a regular on

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast with George Nori. It's it's been a

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Speaker 1: complete honor. So you contacted me and you're telling me

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Speaker 1: how in your many areas of research, you've stumbled across

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Speaker 1: shadow People and hat Man, and you've helped people, especially

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Speaker 1: during these COVID times, dealing with a heavy onslaught of

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00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: dark activity going out out there in the world. Just

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00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: within the past two weeks, we've had like four cases

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Speaker 1: where we've dealt with the hat Man. So it's like, WHOA,

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00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: this is just a real wake up call and it

514
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: was time then to to call you or talk to

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Speaker 1: you and and let you know that we were having

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Speaker 1: that activity, and I was curious whether or not you

517
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Speaker 1: were getting a lot of upcake on on cases just

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Speaker 1: recently too. Oh my goodness, it has been through the

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00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: roof when the pandemic started. I put it out there,

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00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: I said, you guys, get ready because these things are

521
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: going to have a feast on everybody's misery and absolutely

522
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: feed upon what was going on. And here you've found

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Speaker 1: that to be the case as well. So yeah, definitely,

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Speaker 1: you know people my way and any way that I

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Speaker 1: can help. I always tell people to reach out through

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Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis dot com and let me know what's going

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Speaker 1: on in any way that could be of help. I'm

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Speaker 1: here for that, So I appreciate that. Okay, well, we're

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Speaker 1: certainly we'll send them on if if they weren't further contact,

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Speaker 1: of course, that's great. So tell me what's happened. What

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00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: some of the things that we're going on. Well, um,

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Speaker 1: it's just a variety of things. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that I first one to share is we're we're seeing

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Speaker 1: an upswing in the cases that where we see the

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00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: hat man around elementary and middle school settings. We're we're

536
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: finding that, um, in his case, he seems to be

537
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: circling the neighborhoods. Our Paranormal group does remote viewing along

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00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: with doing clearings on different properties and stuff, and in

539
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: that we find the hat Man circling in these neighborhoods,

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Speaker 1: around the elementary schools and the middle school in this

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Speaker 1: one particular city that's not far from where I live. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one thing I always say is that hat Man loves

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Speaker 1: to irritate children. He's very, very drawn to children. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: kids do tend to attract hat Man, or I should

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Speaker 1: say hat man I call him. I call him a

546
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: purv of sorts, goes after children, and it's not always

547
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: perversion in that sense, but uh, he tries to make

548
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: his impression young on a lot of people and they

549
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: grow up with this horror and they write me saying

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00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: how for forty years they've had to deal with him.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised. And yes, it's something that I

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00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: have heard of people seeing him lurking around places where

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Speaker 1: children are and that's a shame. So you you've got

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Speaker 1: to you've got a case where this has been going on,

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00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: So what did your team do with it? The thing

556
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: we end up doing the remote and kind of watching

557
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: it for a day or two, and then usually it's

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00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: it's instigated by a person who's um having some kind

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Speaker 1: of experience or residing with the hat man, and we

560
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: let them kind of decide, you know what the next

561
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: step is our group, when given the green light, we

562
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: will go ahead and do what's called a spirit releasement.

563
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: We call in angels, and then we also try to

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Speaker 1: to wrap the people that are having the encounters, wrapped

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00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: them with more of a white light and also we

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Speaker 1: use a rainbow energy uh of been kind of thing

567
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: to to wrap around them and help bring their lives

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00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: back to a more calm state so they exhibit so

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Speaker 1: much fear or field of fear. Is there a specific

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Speaker 1: case that you can share with us here on the program,

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Speaker 1: because one of the things I like to do is

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Speaker 1: give people examples of what it is that somebody has

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Speaker 1: dealt with and the process of learning through that and

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Speaker 1: what's what's going on. One of our people was a

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Speaker 1: teacher at one of the elementary schools and she ran

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Speaker 1: into the hat Man in the hallivor school one night

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Speaker 1: when she was working late. She said she was walking

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Speaker 1: into the hall and she literally bumped into him. You

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Speaker 1: know what, we did then, was we get a clearing

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Speaker 1: on the school and then we put up kind of

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Speaker 1: like can I ask you? So she's walking through her

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Speaker 1: school and she bumps into the entity that, of course

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Speaker 1: hat man. So what on earth did she do in

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Speaker 1: that instance? Does she pass out? Did she run? Did

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Speaker 1: he say anything? What did he look like? What are

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Speaker 1: we talking about here? She describes him as being normal

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: adult male kind of size, with like um, a black

588
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: cape kind of um thing, as well as the typical

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00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: large brimmed black hat. And she said, when she saw

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Speaker 1: him that close, you know, she couldn't see a face

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00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: on the the entity, but she definitely could see the

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Speaker 1: body and the hat. And she said, of course she uh,

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Speaker 1: she was what so what I want to use? Yeah, yeah,

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00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: that's what it was. And she said it took her,

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00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, four or five minutes to gain her composure

596
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: to decide what to do next. She was just kind

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: of in shock. She bumped into him. She's standing there

598
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: staring at those black nothingness with all had had manifested

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00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: enough that there was a physical dimension to him. It

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00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: wasn't as though he was just an energy entity. It

601
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: was an actual, actual physical manifestation exactly that's very typical

602
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: of him. And that's why I separated the categories of

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00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: him just being a shadow being because he can become

604
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: solid yep, yep, And in a number of other cases,

605
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: nobody has ever run into him, but it is such

606
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: that they see, um, the hat Man more in the

607
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: energy form where they kind of see the shadow of him,

608
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: but never the actual physical manifestation like she did in

609
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: this case. Right, Yeah, Yeah, she she was very unlucky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hate to hear of that. It's it's it changes

611
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: a person's reality when but that's what happened to her.

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00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: That was kind of her beginning process in learning to

613
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: deal with with paranormal because it was then UM where

614
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: she joined our group and has been helping to do

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00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: the clearings since that point in time. So she was

616
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: this the first time that she'd run into that type

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00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: of thing? Yes, So she she had heard any kind

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00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: of rumors of this thing walking around the schools or

619
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Speaker 1: anything like, Oh no, she knew nothing about that. She

620
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: had had some other paranormal stuff that she had seen

621
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Speaker 1: in their building. Um, we also are finding a fair

622
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: amount of gremlin activity along with with the hat Man,

623
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Speaker 1: and she had seen the gremlin creatures in her building before,

624
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: but never the hat man. How's what she described the

625
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: gremlin creatures. That's something that I've talked about sometimes, but

626
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: not on this show yet, but on my other shows

627
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: I have. So yeah, tell us a little bit about

628
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Speaker 1: the little gremlins. She saw the gremlins. We we've seen

629
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Speaker 1: those on a number of other occasions. They look very

630
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: similar in nature to the movie The Gremlins. Speed made

631
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: their their short little creatures. Um. They've got the wide smile,

632
00:40:52,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of um facial expression and very uh. They're they're

633
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: not in what we've found, They're not mean. They're just

634
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: just kind of ordinary and um. In the in the

635
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: schools that we've been to, they've been just kind of

636
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: tormentors or teasers with with kids and with people. Yes,

637
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: and it just kind of scatter all over the place.

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00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: Those things are nothing cute. I tell you what, Daryl.

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00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to our first break and we'll dive

640
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper into these little gremlin like creatures.

641
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: If you guys haven't heard about these things, they are yucky,

642
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Speaker 1: before the break, my guest and I, Darryl Stango, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the little demonic gremlins that are often seen

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Speaker 1: around sightings of hat Man in particular, but also even

692
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Speaker 1: sometimes shadow people. I haven't had the chance on this

693
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Speaker 1: new show yet to cover these little ewins, but I

694
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Speaker 1: have spoken about them here and there on other shows

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Speaker 1: I've hosted, and these things are absolutely horrific looking. Some

696
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Speaker 1: of them are just a couple of feet tall. Others

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Speaker 1: I've heard are just this little six inch thing running

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Speaker 1: across the tabletop. And the looks on these things faces

699
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Speaker 1: when they get a look at them absolutely horrifying. Nasty

700
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: little teeth and nasty little grins, and just getting into

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Speaker 1: people's stuff, getting into their face and just scurrying around,

702
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Speaker 1: peeking around corners, just just horrible. Just before the break, Darrel,

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Speaker 1: you were talking about how you have come across some

704
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Speaker 1: of this stuff, and I wanted to give you opportunity

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Speaker 1: to finish up your story about them. Um. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was such that the one gal who was in

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Speaker 1: our paranormal group, now she was a teacher in the building,

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Speaker 1: and and she used to work late, late hours, and

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Speaker 1: she would talk about um walking the halls to do

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Speaker 1: different office work from her school classroom, and as she

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Speaker 1: would go down the halls, she'd see these little grimlins

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Speaker 1: peeking out from around the lockers, and she would always, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of step back. Being a spiritual person,

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Speaker 1: she would also ask for for a spiritual protection from them,

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Speaker 1: not understanding who or what their their purpose was, but

716
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Speaker 1: knowing that they they definitely were striking a level of

717
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Speaker 1: fear in her her mind. Would she would describe them?

718
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Speaker 1: How would she describe them? They were short, little little beings,

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Speaker 1: probably two and a half feet tall. Um, not scaly skin,

720
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Speaker 1: but their skin was um almost a greenish gray, kind

721
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Speaker 1: of a lumpy just very similar, she said, to what

722
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Speaker 1: was being produced in the movie. And that's she said

723
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Speaker 1: that the eyes were piercing and that she just you know,

724
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Speaker 1: had to really work hard to collect her herself from

725
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Speaker 1: not being overcome by fear from them. Oh, oh, I

726
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Speaker 1: can imagine. It's interesting because I've heard different descriptions of

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Speaker 1: these minions, and yes, some of them do look a

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Speaker 1: lot like from the movie type of gremlin creature. I've

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Speaker 1: heard of smaller ones as well. The ones that we

730
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Speaker 1: have come across all are about this same size. So

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Speaker 1: there have been what three schools. Um. I also tore

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Speaker 1: down an old old school house where I was hearing

733
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Speaker 1: whispering going on, and I went in and started focusing

734
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Speaker 1: on them, and then found that there were gremlins that

735
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Speaker 1: were harassing a little girl's spirit that was left in

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Speaker 1: this old schoolhouse, and we ended up I ended up

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Speaker 1: doing a clearing on it and crossing the little girl

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Speaker 1: over and the gremlins left. Wow. So the creatures you said,

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00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: the hat man and these little minion like creatures are

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Speaker 1: popping up also in other schools. So you've had three

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Speaker 1: school systems or three schools total so far. We've had

742
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Speaker 1: a middle school, we've had one parochial school, We've had

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Speaker 1: one elementary school, and this other one was was one

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Speaker 1: we've just done in the last two days where a

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Speaker 1: family was reporting them in the neighborhood and they were

746
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Speaker 1: circling around this other school. That that makes the fourth

747
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Speaker 1: one now in the last year and a half. That's amazing. Yeah,

748
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: there's definitely a problem going on out there. Now. I

749
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: know that you also like to tackle the reptilian agenda,

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about your angle on

751
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 1: that and how that got integrated into all that you're doing.

752
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: That's a wild story. I'm writing the book right now

753
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: called From Aliens to Angels, and that book is going

754
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: to to tell that whole story where I ended up.

755
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: I've seen one of these reptilian beings exit the body

756
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Speaker 1: of a person once and then m learned how that

757
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: person then was being what they call reptilian hosted. I

758
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Speaker 1: what investigated with Barbara Bartholick and also for ten years

759
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Speaker 1: on the whole reptilian agenda, and that's where I learned

760
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Speaker 1: of the concept of reptilian hosting, which like in the

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Speaker 1: Christian field, it will be called demonic possession, but for

762
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Speaker 1: a number of us in the the UFO field, we

763
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Speaker 1: call it the reptilian hosting, where reptilian being literally lives

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Speaker 1: within the body of a human host and manipulates that

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Speaker 1: person and then feeds on the fear and the anger

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Speaker 1: that's created in the energy field of that person amazing.

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Speaker 1: So you personally, you've had a lot of different types

768
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Speaker 1: of paranormal encounter. So it's gone from ghosts to UFOs.

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Speaker 1: Like let's let's hear a little bit about it. Um.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on a farm in southwest Iowa, and

771
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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six, my mother had a UFO sighting

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Speaker 1: over our farm, and then shortly after that, my brother

773
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Speaker 1: and I had a sighting of a UFO behind our

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Speaker 1: chicken house. And years later I was to learn under

775
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: hypnosis that the sighting of the UFO was just the

776
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Speaker 1: first part of the evening that an abduction scenario took

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Speaker 1: place with my brother and myself after we had had

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Speaker 1: this sighting. So and then that has continued down through

779
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Speaker 1: my lifetime and now at this point in time, I

780
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: am kind of feel that it's it's stopped because I've

781
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: worked really hard to to do protection techniques with the

782
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: use of some of the Angels of Light and have

783
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: come to understand that the angels of Light are in

784
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: battle with some of the species of the the e

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Speaker 1: t s And which is very true that I don't

786
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Speaker 1: know if you recalled, but when I would go down

787
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Speaker 1: to Rika Springs, to give a lecture. My first book

788
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: is called The Secret War, and it was based on

789
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: the more positive beings, which we would refer to as

790
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: being more angelic, fighting these negative reptilian type creatures and

791
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: shadow people. How there is a real battle going on

792
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: out there. So I hear you, I hear you. I've

793
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: thought one of your books back then, and that began

794
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: help me go down the path that I'm on. Now, well,

795
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: that's wonderful to hear. But wow, I'm no, I'm humbled

796
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: because it's been an honor to to get to know

797
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: you and talk with you. Oh my goodness, it's a

798
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: variety of different experiences and you know, as we have talked,

799
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: it all kind of leads you down the path of

800
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: a spiritual gateway into a broader range of reality that

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00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, my public education never taught me, or my

802
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: public education or work as a teacher never allowed me

803
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: to talk about right, that's amazing, you know, I swear

804
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: to you. Today I was sharing with one of my

805
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: friends how that is something so important that might need

806
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: to be implemented out there. Because just the other day

807
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: my own nieces and nephews contacted me to hear a

808
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: spooky story because my sister caught them trying to find

809
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: real spooky stories online and she's stopped them. She's like,

810
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: if you want to hear a spooky story, you're gonna

811
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: talk to your auntie Heidi, and she's like, make sure

812
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: it's PG. And you know, here, they might have looked

813
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: something up much like the slender Man, which was really

814
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: hat man phenomenon of those little girls found something online

815
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: and they scared themselves into believing this whole thing, and

816
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: they attack their friend and and I'm like, you know

817
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: how many kids are doing this? So I think, much

818
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: like other educational pieces out there, that this might be

819
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: something very important that we need to do and implement

820
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: because the kids are looking for this stuff online right well,

821
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: our our culture is is somewhat kind of pointing them

822
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: in that direction. With all the the ghosts and paranormal

823
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: programs on TV. You know, they can't help but be

824
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: sensitized or moved into the direction to to study it more.

825
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: But it's it's something that has to be kind of

826
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Speaker 1: dealt with gently. Yes, you can't. I'm not sure that

827
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Speaker 1: many of the adults know the dangers that are out

828
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: there with some of it, and what what you need

829
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: to do to help kids find some kind of balance

830
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: in the way they approach it. If they don't have

831
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: a spiritual background to rely on, I think it becomes

832
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Speaker 1: a real dangerous kind of a thing to be dealing with.

833
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: Very true, very true. I mean, maybe that's why so

834
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: much of this stuff lingers around the schools, because the

835
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: kids are curious and they are looking. My nieces and

836
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: nephews they're eight, nine and twelve years old, you know,

837
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: they're they're looking and and they're the ones calling asking

838
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: to learn. I'm like, whoa back up here? So we

839
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: need to rethink all of this well, and I think

840
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, so many of our young children don't have

841
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: a spiritual upbringing that makes them ripe for some of

842
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: these dark creatures to to get into their worlds and

843
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: do some level of control or taking them down a

844
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: wayward path. Very much so. So, Daryl, we've got a

845
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: few seconds. How can people get ahold of you? They

846
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: can either catch me on Facebook or they can email

847
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: me at angel heart at gmail dot com. That's awesome.

848
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Darryl Stagel for coming on the

849
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: show today. It's always interesting to cure it from people directly,

850
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: so we can ask questions and learn from each other

851
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: about what it is they're doing out there when it

852
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: comes to anything out of the ordinary. So remember, go

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