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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, thirty three,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Daly's Nice, the production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dock

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Speaker 1: to America, share consciousness, and say, officially, off the top,

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Speaker 1: fuck the Koch Brothers and fuck Cox News. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: my twelve. My name is Jack O'Brien a k A.

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Speaker 1: He's Jack, and he's always down to host a party

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Speaker 1: with his kids and clowns. They say, Jack, can you

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Speaker 1: watch goofy now? He says, I guess, but inside he dies.

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Speaker 1: The Zike Gang says Jack, A, you're a fine dad.

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Speaker 1: What a good uncle you could be, and your jokes

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Speaker 1: can steal attension from this disease. That is courtesy and

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Speaker 1: Banny and I'm thrilled to be joined as always, I'm

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Speaker 1: my co host, Mr Miles grags COVID nineteen Jadezy warrented

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Speaker 1: and where your photos hug There's no hugging thing sucks.

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Speaker 1: Billy Ocean Care Caribbean Queen. That is a way back.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know how I am. Thank you too,

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Speaker 1: Bondesleia Social Media in turn on sixteen five at Fresh

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Speaker 1: Frankie for that Billy Ocean inspired a kay, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much, love me some billy ocean. I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined by my other co host, Jamie Lauper. I

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Speaker 1: think he's to work in the club Covie one now,

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Speaker 1: he said on his couch. She's sad, sad? Anywhere's the podcast?

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Speaker 1: All day? Doing little zen? She brings home, heart takes prison.

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Speaker 1: Oh busy, she says, Sonny, stay home or you'll get caught.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make a difference if you're red killed or not.

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Speaker 1: You've got the virus. Now here's a masking gloves. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you your shots. What I no more, well made

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Speaker 1: it in the car, wash your heads. They won't make

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Speaker 1: any doors. Well made it in the car. That's I

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Speaker 1: think we all had to do that guitar want that

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Speaker 1: is the most powerful a song has ever been in

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Speaker 1: my head after one of these a K I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I want to compliment you or tell you

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Speaker 1: to go fund yourself. My heart rate is skyrocketing, according

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Speaker 1: to my biometric meat Peter. That's from at abstrustle or

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Speaker 1: user name official Dickhead. Really really powerful stuff from official

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Speaker 1: Dickhead brought the heat today. I've been watching official Dickhead

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Speaker 1: develop his a K voice on Twitter. It's good to

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Speaker 1: see him finally make the big league. We're thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in our fourth seat by the talented Kate Hagan. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I didn't know I was gonna

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Speaker 1: get serenaded. First thing. Very exciting, always always, it's our

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Speaker 1: favorite thing you're doing. They say, Kate, now you sing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sing. If you've seen me do karaoke,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to see me sing. It's not a

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Speaker 1: pretty picture. Do you like karaoke though? I do, because

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Speaker 1: that's a karaoke is all about attitude not ability. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it's a great time and it's very freeing to

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Speaker 1: be like, here's the thing I can't do, and I'm

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Speaker 1: doing it. I mean, I think you just saw between

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Speaker 1: Jack and I that was clearly about attitude and not ability.

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Speaker 1: Jamie has ability. We're at we're attitude singers. Able singer

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Speaker 1: has actually done in the national anthem out of sporting event.

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Speaker 1: That's the mark I use. But what do you sing

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Speaker 1: when you go to karaoke? I'm moisture. That's how you

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Speaker 1: learn about somebody. Yeah, it's um, I sing all sorts

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Speaker 1: of stuff. I would say my sort of uh staples

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Speaker 1: I like doing nine to five, which is a really

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Speaker 1: hard to sing. Yeah, I don't like Yeah it's a

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Speaker 1: songs that require actual chops Like I love Patsy Klin.

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Speaker 1: I cannot sing a Patsy Klin so karaoke that I

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Speaker 1: don't want to dislong her memory. Criminal is all attitude.

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Speaker 1: it's big scorpio energy. You gotta support there. What does

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Speaker 1: everyone what does everyone's go to karaoke? Montell, montell, this

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Speaker 1: always warm up my voice to that. I let people know, Look,

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Speaker 1: this is what you can expect from me. Just some

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Speaker 1: good Torch songs r and from the nineties to the table. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've never gone karaoke singing in my entire life. What

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Speaker 1: I've never been karaoke singing? This is what I know

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Speaker 1: you guys do. Invisible by Clay Akin, Invisible by Clay An,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know insible. I feel like it's in

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Speaker 1: your range. You could do it. Oh my, I can't

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about it, Last Dance, all of that and

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Speaker 1: plenty more. But first, Kate, we like to ask our guests,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing

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Speaker 1: about who you are? So my current obsession during the

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Speaker 1: watching like ride throughs on YouTube of rides. I will

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Speaker 1: looking up stuff that doesn't exist anymore. And the one

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Speaker 1: last week we're talking about a guy who had trespassed

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Speaker 1: like loving watching kids get chased by security guards and

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Speaker 1: like getting invading them. But the Gremlins. Wait, it was

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Speaker 1: which is really intriguing to me. But I hope they

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Speaker 1: can look up ride through, so it's incredible. It's like

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Speaker 1: somebody when I posted about it on Twitter, and somebody

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Speaker 1: I would maybe have a meltdown over those Grandlins. That's

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Speaker 1: like they freak you out. Yeah, Gremlins, aren't they cute?

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Speaker 1: this is a movie about how women's sexual desires are

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Speaker 1: you can seek out any of her movies, highly recommended

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Speaker 1: during Quarantine. Um, she's dope. Wow, Love Her Boy. I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize Lover Her Boy was that uh deep. I've

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Speaker 1: like seen various moments of Lover her Boy, but that

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Speaker 1: don't know her movies all kind of do that. You

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Speaker 1: or something that's stuck in limbo because in music, so

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00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: with the piano, it could be that they don't want

422
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: to pay to relicense the Michael Nyman score. Um, but

423
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: it's why when you see like Daria pop up or

424
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: The Wonder Years pop up and all the music is replaced,

425
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: that's why. Is because its my Joe Cocker. You want right?

426
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: It totally like the experience is different. You're like, this

427
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: is not the song that played. Yeah, my partner she's

428
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: she's a big Dawson's Creek head, and I saw her

429
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: watching that. I said, what the fund is this? And

430
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: she said Dawson's Creek. I'm like, no, this is not

431
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: Dawson's Creek because off brand ship. This is Dawson's Whatever

432
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: the funk? I wonder what a Dawson's Creek rewatch would

433
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: be like now, like, does a single second of it?

434
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: Hold up? Man? Let me tell you, as a person

435
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: of color, there's a moment where, uh, fun, what's your face? Joey.

436
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: Joey's sisters like dating a black guy and they like

437
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: referred it as like her black boyfriend. It's like so like,

438
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: ammer fist it in. I'm like, yeah, no, it was

439
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: the nineties, What are you gonna expect better than that? Yeah,

440
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just looking back at the entire course

441
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 1: of history, and I'm like, what are you gonna expect?

442
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day about how like a

443
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: major part of that show that was supposed to be

444
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: cute was that, like Joey and Dawson would often sleep

445
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: in the same bed, and that was supposed to be like, oh,

446
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: that's and then you're just but then like in reality,

447
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: James Vanderbyk's characters just has a boner all night, Like

448
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: you're just like, that's not romantic, that's weird. Then yeah, yeah,

449
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, you're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna

450
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: sleep with my back to you though, Okay, it's fine,

451
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. As I was looking up the

452
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: movie Shame, the cinematographer, his name is Sean Bobbitt. Okay, yes, okay,

453
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take a quick break to look

454
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: up more Pean shots and we'll be back to report

455
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: on that. And we're back, and hey, what's happening in

456
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: the news. We're still quarantined, right, my right, guess, so

457
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: I guess looks like things still going on unless we're

458
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: in the matrix. And this is what the pods look

459
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: like when we're plugged into human batteries. Like every we

460
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: experienced life through a zoom call. One of my friends

461
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: had a great line. She was like, can somebody just

462
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: like knock my plug out in the matrix? Can you

463
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: just like, can somebody be like mopping and knock mopping

464
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: out just like this? No? Like this, it's so hard

465
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: to know where we're at anymore with anything we're safe,

466
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: We're not safe. We see things from the c d

467
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: C defining what's safe only here the White House be

468
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, don't don't show people that

469
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: because I don't know what's safe is and they'll realize

470
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: it's not. Nothing is safe at the moment um. But

471
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, right now, like there's the glimmer of hope

472
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: in that Governor Cuomo is saying that, you know what,

473
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: like May fifteen looks realistic as a timeline to be

474
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: be able to begin reopening New York. Um. You know,

475
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: twenty six thousand people and counting have passed away in

476
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: New York from coronavirus um. And but now, like I

477
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: think over the weekend, like it was like one one

478
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: and one night. So overall, Cuomo says, like the state

479
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: is over the mountain in terms of hospitalizations, intubations, I

480
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: see you, admissions and all that. It's all gone down. Um,

481
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: so that's been I think for a lot of people,

482
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: it's weird. I think a lot of people have been

483
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: experiencing this outbreak through the lens of New York without

484
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: looking at what is actually happening where they go. Because

485
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: so much of the immediate attention is on New York.

486
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are just mapping that

487
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: onto them. They go, well, New York is bad, but

488
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: here isn't bad. So I guess that's where we're at.

489
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: And I'm still okay. So things are fine. Um but

490
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: when you look at the states that are about to reopen,

491
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Cuomo is I think the no. Cuomo is the only

492
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: governor who can point to a dec line in these

493
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: cases and hospitalizations, like while talking about reopening and like

494
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: that was one of the that was one of the

495
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: things that you needed, right, was for it to have

496
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: been declining for two weeks in a row, and like

497
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, that was like the CDC guidelines, Yeah,

498
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: which we don't we look at all these other states.

499
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: We look at all these other states and they're beginning

500
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: to really like act like it's all good, Like okay,

501
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: New York City opening. That means everywhere else is okay.

502
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: It's just hard because yeah, when they anyone looking at

503
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: the numbers would see that cases are going up. And

504
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: when I talk about sort of like everyone experiencing the

505
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: outbreak through the lens of New York, you have to

506
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: look at sort of like right now, we're starting to

507
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: now see these outbreaks hit rural counties and smaller areas

508
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: of the country that we were just weeks behind the

509
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: rest of these like massively populated urban centers. Um. And

510
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: they're saying a lot of the analysis says a lot

511
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: of the needs that voted for Trump in are likely

512
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: to begin seeing influxes of cases in this the last

513
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: week and this week, so that experience seems to be

514
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: catching up other places only now. Um. Yet we're still

515
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, spiking the football as if

516
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: everything's yeah it was. I mean, this is a strange

517
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: weekend this weekend because it's you you feel like the vibe,

518
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: like whether you're strictly talking to people online or if

519
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: you're like starting to see people around your neighborhood. The

520
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: vibe is kind of or at least where I live,

521
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: it's been kind of changing, and it makes me triple

522
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: anxious because it's like we all sort of know we're

523
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: not out of it, but people are just so anxious

524
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: to get out that it's it's like a self fulfilling

525
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: prophecy in a lot of ways. Yeah, the overall number,

526
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: like New York was such a huge part of the

527
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: national like you know, such an epicenter, and like I

528
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: think at one point was like cases were happening there,

529
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: and so as numbers have started to fall, like overall

530
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: numbers have started to fall. Um, But there was this

531
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: post on the medium site Aaron Bromage or Aaron Bromage

532
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: dot com. He's a professor at UMass Dartmouth, UH and

533
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: he like his area of focus is very specific, like

534
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: it's he's not, like, uh an expert or he's not

535
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: a doctor, but he does like specifically focus on epidemiological

536
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: research and was like from the start of the semester

537
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: tracking COVID nineteen as like a project for his class.

538
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: So he's been posting on Facebook because apparently he's older

539
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: and UH then started doing this blog where he was

540
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: like posting just sort of his insights into the numbers.

541
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: And one of the big things in this post that

542
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: went viral over the past couple of weeks was just

543
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: that even though the numbers are trending downwards nationally, like

544
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: if you pull New York out of that, our numbers

545
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: are still going up as a country, um, which is

546
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: really like this whole thing is completely locally oriented. And

547
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: that's just I think both from a just like every

548
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: day perspective, because we're used to watching like national media

549
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: and share like watching uh the same Netflix shows that

550
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: people on the East Coast are watching, and you know,

551
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: having shared experiences and being able to contact someone in

552
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: New York so quickly or like across the country so quickly,

553
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: our minds are in a global or at the very

554
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: least national like mode. But this is specifically something that

555
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: is explicitly taking place in physical space, and like your

556
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: reality on in one town slash even like one like

557
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: area of town is going to be completely different than

558
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: people like across the country, and so it's just it's

559
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: almost like a perfect trap to get us to let

560
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: our guard down. Um. And then there's also the fact

561
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: that the federal government is working with this short term uh,

562
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, we got to get the economy back up

563
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: and running so Trump can get reelected. I think for me,

564
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: like maybe the hardest thing about all of this is

565
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: the fact that I've realized that, like many Americans either

566
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: can't read a chart or refuse to read a chart,

567
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: like just can't look at a growth chart and you know,

568
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: understand a concept like exponential growth of spreading, and you know,

569
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: I want to believe things like Fox News want to

570
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: believe things like planned emic um as opposed to just

571
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, like an s a T question. Look at

572
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: the curve, Look where the curve is going, Like it's

573
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: just sort of horrifying. My parents live in Ohio. That's

574
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: where I grew up, and I've been very fortunate that

575
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: even as a Republican governor, Mike Dawine has done it

576
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: really good job as opposed to some other states in

577
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: that region. But yeah, I think the locality is going

578
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: to become one of the biggest takeaways from all of this,

579
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: Like even just having thoughts of like, well, if I

580
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: have to drive home for Christmas to hang out with

581
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: my parents instead of flying, I'm happy to do that,

582
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: but I do think you'll start to see people you know,

583
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: fewer international vacations, more road trips across the USA, stuff

584
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. Yeah, I've been trying to be better

585
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: about because Jack, You're totally right of just like it.

586
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: It is so easy to talk to anyone in any location,

587
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: and I've been trying to any time I'm talking to,

588
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: like whether it's like my family or friends that live

589
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: in different states and cities, just like listen to where

590
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: they're at first before I start, because it's so easy

591
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: to assume we're all on the same Uh, you know,

592
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: we're all in the same situation, we're all in the

593
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: same wavelength. But it's like, yes, street to street, it

594
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: can be an entirely different story depending on what your

595
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: circumstances are. And like, I mean, the things in my

596
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: area are are slowly improving, but in my hometown it's

597
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: like there's an eight o'clock curfew because things are spreading

598
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: so quickly. And so yeah, when you're having those conversations,

599
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: it's you know, asked the ask the other person where

600
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: there at first? Um yeah, yeah, But the thing too,

601
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: is this, like even with how you know, these cities

602
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: experience at first and the media ends up focusing on

603
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: these places again, and we start we tend to live

604
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: these experiences through unfortunately, these like media narratives that were

605
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, consuming that. Especially a lot of these Trump voters,

606
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: who are people who were like, man, like, we just

607
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: got to open up, what's the deal? Because of where

608
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: they live there, the effects were just completely abstract to them.

609
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: It was like they're like, dude, I don't know a

610
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: single fucking person with this, what are you talking about?

611
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: If I do, I heard it's like upstate and people

612
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: don't come through here whatever. And now that it's that

613
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: because Trump was like being so casual about it, and

614
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: we're arting to see these little clusters in these small,

615
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: smaller rural communities and things like that. The experts are

616
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: just really wanting to again re emphasize to these people

617
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: just because New York is declining, that is a completely

618
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: different place than where you live. And also the threat

619
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: of your hospitals and medical systems and infrastructure being overwhelmed

620
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: by an outbreak are much higher because of where you

621
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: are in relation to a larger metropolitan area, and the

622
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: resources available are completely different. So it's again it's this

623
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: weird thing where people just have to like they're just

624
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: only concerned with their own comfort, because I think statistically

625
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: the data would be overwhelming, maybe emotionally to say like,

626
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm at, I'm at you know, I'm

627
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: operating at the will of this virus whatever happens to it.

628
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: That's what's in control. And I think that's really what

629
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: most people rejecting, is this idea that they aren't in control.

630
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: And it's like the same thing like back to talking

631
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: about watching Fox News or something like when I watch

632
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, my team or somewhere in sports, your team

633
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Speaker 1: does terribly. All avoid the news because I don't want

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00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: to hear them. I don't want to hear the news

635
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: picking apart how terrible the performance was of my team.

636
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: If anything, I want to go find articles that are

637
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: some from pundit saying, you know, even though that was

638
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: a loss, here are the good things we actually saw

639
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: in this and why the other people, you know, it's

640
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: like we do whatever we can to sort of preserve

641
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: our you know, perception of having control and things like that.

642
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's really interesting in all of

643
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: this is like it's all just about people unwilling to

644
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: feel like something bad could happen to them and it's

645
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: completely out of their control. Well, well we'll probably return

646
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: to uh that professor's kind of writing on the subject

647
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: because uh he also debunks like some of the things.

648
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: It's not really debunks, but like has some interesting insights

649
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: into like how the disease is actually transmitted and like

650
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: time spent with somebody as a big yeah, yeah, time

651
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: spent with somebody indoors, like that's how they do contact tracing. Yeah,

652
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: it's very it's a good article. It made me feel

653
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: both better and worse. Yes, I really read that article

654
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: and I said, we're never recording a podcast until there's

655
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: a vaccine, because the whole thing was saying like by

656
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: speaking in close proximity in a not well ventilated area

657
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: in a small room, like you're just putting more particles

658
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: in the air and you're in the same room for

659
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: one hour and it's not properly ventilated. I mean, like,

660
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: there are there are things that I'm like being like,

661
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like that's the environment of recording a

662
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: podcast in a studio is just like germ fest. Will

663
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I will not die of a hot take. I'll tell

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00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: you that right now. She hear lized, Jamie Loft is

665
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: she died for the hotake cause of death scorching hot

666
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: Take Gods of Death touched face after recording podcast. There's

667
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: also another piece of information that's going viral in the

668
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: past week when it comes to the pandemic is a

669
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: video called planned emmick uh. And you know it's true.

670
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: You know it's chuck full of truth because it has

671
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: a clever name to it. You can tell, okay, plan

672
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: mixed with pandemic boom uh. They can this idea first

673
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: done and done Now it's made by a fully disgraced

674
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: scientist who's like been who got fired sued for doing

675
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: the bad science. Dr Judy Micka bits. One important detail

676
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: about who she is is at one point, like after

677
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: she had like falsified data, gotten fired, and then like

678
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: had stolen data from the lab that had fired her,

679
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: she was a living quote out on a boat to

680
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: avoid being sued by the lab. Um. So that's the

681
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: level of like understanding of how the world works that

682
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: you're dealing with. She she thought, I'm on water, therefore

683
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: home base can't be sued. Done and done. Oh, she

684
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: like had like a maritime sovereign citizen idea in her mind. Yeah,

685
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: she was living on a boat to avoid being sued,

686
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: and she's like, I only answer to the laws of Poseidon.

687
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Um. But she has started writing

688
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: books after she kind of got kicked out of the

689
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: scientific community. She wrote one with an anti vaccine advocate,

690
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 1: Plague of Corruption, is currently on the Amazon best seller list.

691
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: It was written even before the coronavirus outbreak, but her

692
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: claims are pretty easily debunked. She claims that the virus

693
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: was genetically manipulated, when the scientific consensus is it wasn't.

694
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: But the president is, you know, he's like, who knows.

695
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: We can't know. We can't know for sure. I mean,

696
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: we can't know for sure because science. But I don't

697
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: want to know for sure, So who knows? We won't

698
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: know for sure. Yeah. She also says that you should

699
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: wear a mask because then you're being exposed to your

700
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: own Yeah, there's that, And then it's also you're activating

701
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: your own virus, which is hard to fact check because

702
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: no one knows what the funk she's talking about. Like

703
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: that that sounds cool though, Yeah, that sound goes on

704
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: in the summer, like yo, activate your own virus. Activittion virus.

705
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Wait by wearing a mask like you're like just some

706
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: weird viral feedback loop like that, like Tom's weird bachelor

707
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: party in succession. Yes, yeah, exactly. Um, as someone who

708
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: aspires to live on a boat and fall off the grid,

709
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: this is bad representation. This is a bad representation. Wait

710
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: what what would in your mind, Jamie? Why do you

711
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: take off to live on a boat to avoid the

712
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: laws of our land land loving people. It's not It's

713
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: not even to avoid the laws of the land labers.

714
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: For me, It's just I've always wanted to live on

715
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: a house boat and then not have an Internet connection

716
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: and never were here in opinion again except for that

717
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: of my seagull friends. What my quirky seagull friends who

718
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: bring me forks say, of course, but just one one

719
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: misplaced car from them can ruin my day and it

720
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: really hurts. It really hurts. I do feel like that

721
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: there's something in the zeitgeist with birds are coming coming

722
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: for us. That might be me just exposing that I

723
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: am have been alone for too long, But I just

724
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: keep hearing people like having battles with birds for some reason.

725
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: Is it because of the covid bat is covid bat

726
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: like patient zero. I don't know, Yeah, maybe there's like

727
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: something psychological. Soia was talking about training crows sorrow June

728
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: has chickens, and then we found out that those roosters

729
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: like can't be around hens, and so like them, you

730
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: have sex with the hens. It's like my little kind

731
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: of genius. Uh six year old nephew is like has

732
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: in the past couple of weeks become obsessed with birds

733
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: and like identifying them, and like a good friend of

734
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: mine is being uh menaced by a no, a mocking

735
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: bird in his friend's backyard. It's like very very weird.

736
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: I think birds are like, all right, now now we

737
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: have them where we want them, it's our time to

738
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: strike hilarious like where us not being out? Like clearly

739
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot of animals and wildlife have gotten their swagger

740
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: back because people aren't like, you know, fucking in their

741
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: neighborhood as much that I wonder if like birds collectively

742
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: are like, okay, it's us now we run this ship,

743
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: and like when we all come back out, like birds

744
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: all have new attitudes, Like pigeons don't fly out of

745
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: the street like they're like, yeah, fucking run me over.

746
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Um I'm curious. We'll see. Is I haven't read it

747
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: is to kill a mocking bird a advice man? Or

748
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: is that does that tell you how to Um, there's

749
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: a guy in the back. Yeah, here's that you trapped one. Yeah.

750
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: So anyways, like we're saying, don't listen to this non

751
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: scientific take by this person, listen to us the guy

752
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: who thinks that birds are coming to take over the world.

753
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: You can trust me. Yeah, you start going, hold on,

754
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: hold on, we gotta stop talking about this coronavirasing guys.

755
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we gotta talk. I'm you know, and I

756
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: get it climate changes on the horizon too, But these

757
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: fucking birds. Man really picked a good tangent to go

758
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: off on while debunking this anti science take. But the bird,

759
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: that's where the real it's the real enemy. Yeah, the skies.

760
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: But anyways, millions of people have seen her plandemic video.

761
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter and all the regular platforms immediately took

762
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: it down because of the mask. Like the mask thing

763
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: is basically like shouting fire in a crowded theater. It's like,

764
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: obviously you can't do that because you're going to get

765
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: people very sick by claiming not that you shouldn't be

766
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: wearing a ma ask have you guys. I've been thinking

767
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: about it all Like I have been thinking about like

768
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: the two thousand five to like two thousand and eight

769
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: Internet and how differently the information we'd be getting about

770
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen would be disseminated like in those days when

771
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: like you know, we had instant messaging, we had news websites,

772
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: but we did not have it was right before social

773
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: media hit, so you didn't have this sort of echo

774
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: chamber or these like thousands of voices all chiming in.

775
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: But I do think about, like had this happened in

776
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: like two thousand seven, how different things would be. I

777
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: mean obviously at the government level, but just in terms

778
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: of like how that kind of info would be shared online,

779
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: like just planned DEMI even exist in that environment, right right? Yeah,

780
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean if it was a fringe site or on

781
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: the sides, like it would be like in the same

782
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: circles where like you know, like looking for your like

783
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: truth or bids or whatever like plandemic. All right, all right,

784
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: because I've had some trippy people try and share some

785
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: weird ship uh that was not real at all, And

786
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, no, no, but like and

787
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: from people whose intelligence I respect. But again, I think

788
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: it goes back to what I was saying, was like,

789
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: I think it's just an exercise in people's ability to

790
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: accept what's happening without having to assign some really absurd

791
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: like origin story to it, to then just be like, yeah,

792
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: science is a thing, you know, because of our interactions

793
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: with animals, ship like this can happen. We live in

794
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: a fucking global earth now where move people move around,

795
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, it can lead to something like this. But

796
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: I guess it's easier to think some mad scientist is

797
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: in a lab like hell bent on like getting everybody

798
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: to like watch fucking reruns of Will and Grace or something,

799
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: because that's the liberal genda. It's more cinematic there. I

800
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: I I tried, like with with the conspiracy like fringe

801
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: theory stuff. It's like, if you it's so funny to

802
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: picture someone just saying that, like when they're like out

803
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: loud and they're like, okay, we're having like a barbecue

804
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: and someone's like, all right, so here's my thing with

805
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: the fucking birds, And just imagine how quickly you could

806
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: silence a table and you're like okay, so that's not

807
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: something that's worth pursuing online. If you would silence a

808
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: table full of your loved ones simply by bringing it up,

809
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, think, think twice. Maybe I've done this. I've

810
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: done this as well talking about beanie babies. Recently, I've

811
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: silenced a zoom call being like, here's the thing about

812
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: beanie babies. Is the thing someone just shared a video

813
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: with me about the manufactured demand he created in the market.

814
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: It was all of it was a fix. There was

815
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: drugs in the beans. Jamie, do you like me, have

816
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: hundreds of beanie babies in your parents basement somewhere? My

817
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: mom will disclosed where the beanie babies are at. She's

818
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: still she still believes in the secondary market. I was

819
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: at because I was like getting deep into beanie baby

820
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Lord this past as Jack and Miles No and I

821
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: was like texted my mom being like, where did all

822
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: your beanie babies go? She's like, I still have them.

823
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but where are they? She's like,

824
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: I still have them. She's like, what do you like

825
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: to know? Yeah, yeah, she was. She still thinks she's

826
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna send me to college. Ten years ago on this ship,

827
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: this Diana Beanie baby is going to be the only

828
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: currency that that goes in the waste lands five dollars.

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00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: It's so depressive. Actually, when Jack and I were doing

830
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: our live show, we were doing a retrospective on the

831
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: year two thousand and we were talking about beanie babies

832
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: and I had found an eBay listing at the time

833
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: where someone was demanding a quarter of a million dollars

834
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: for the for the Princess Diana beanie baby in the

835
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: year there worth Like, they're worth five dollars still there,

836
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: worth the price they were when they came out. Why

837
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: does I have a special rose embroidered on the chest?

838
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: It's like the Phantom Menace action figures. We all bought

839
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: the Phantom Menace Action figures, being like, do you know

840
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: what years Griffey Jr. Rookie card this Jake Lloyd's the

841
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: next Marlon Brando. I'm telling you, hey, he still could be.

842
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: We don't know. Um, all right, guys, let's take a

843
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll be right back to talk pop culture

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Speaker 1: and other bullshit. And we're back. And the Last Dance

845
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: was back on ESPN last night. I watched it this morning. Um,

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Speaker 1: Episode seven and eight, What do you guys think Jamie,

847
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: did you watch it this time? I did watch it

848
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: this time. I've watched it every time. Yeah, you watch it? Okay,

849
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: my bad. Did you watch it again this time? Did

850
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Speaker 1: you continue the epic dure? Yes, I continue the epic journey. Uh.

851
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: This is like we're getting into the zone now where

852
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: I was. I was like actually learning things I didn't

853
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: know before. I didn't know too much about the details

854
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: of the baseball season. I didn't know like, yeah, so

855
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I hear you say that, as if everything up until

856
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: this point. You're like, I already know all of this.

857
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: What is next? But I knew like the general like

858
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: I need a general overview, But like the ninety four

859
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: to nineties six, I wasn't as as clear on like

860
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Speaker 1: the interlude years or what those were like. I didn't

861
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: know a prompted by his father's passing like it was.

862
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: It was a really emotional couple of episodes, and then

863
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: you see him cry at the end and you're like, man,

864
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: he's a real he's a real one. When he's just

865
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: it's so drama, but it's so beautiful. I was crying. Yeah.

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00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: It's the shot that where he has a drink next

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Speaker 1: to him and seems like he's a little drunk. Uh

868
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: is when he starts crying and the thing he's crying about,

869
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: He's like, this is who I am. If you don't

870
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: want to play that way, don't play that way. I'm

871
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: just a real competitor. Break. It's like, of all the

872
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: things that would have made you cry this episode, just

873
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: talking about how competitive you are was not the thing

874
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: I have my money on. But yeah, the question you say,

875
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: break like he was in a huddle with himself, no

876
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: like break like stop shooting that. He was just like,

877
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: you know, because I get him around and saying this

878
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: is who I If you don't want to play that way,

879
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: they don't play break because I'm only reading the text.

880
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I'm I'm adding my own version

881
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: of the show. I like that that would be a

882
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: fun edition. So the James Jordan's thing I hadn't realized

883
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: like turned into references to the gambling stuff, like right away,

884
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: I thought that was more of like a conspiracy theory

885
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: that emerged over time. But like the media immediately was like, well,

886
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: he has all these like ambling things happening, and then

887
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, his dad gets mysteriously killed the

888
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: like and now he's retiring, Like that's all too much,

889
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: too so I think he I don't know, like that

890
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: that conspiracy theory, which I have at various times been

891
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: intrigued by and said was intriguing, I feel less like.

892
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just kind of stupid outsider speculation. Um.

893
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: In particular, like one of the details that you learned

894
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: in this is that one of the reporters who was

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00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: with him during the summer of ninety two in Barcelona

896
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: with the Dream Team uh Jordan was like, yeah, I'm

897
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: probably gonna retire after next season and go play baseball.

898
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: And I was like what. He's like, yeah, I don't

899
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: tell anyone, but I'm gonna retire after next season and

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00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: U and go play baseball. And the guy was like yeah, okay.

901
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: Well and then it happened and people are like, this

902
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: must be a conspiracy theory. And the guy was like, now,

903
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: that's that's what he was planning to do all along,

904
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: And in fact, that was the last thing he was

905
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: talking to his dad about before his dad passed away,

906
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: was like him retiring and going to play baseball. So

907
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: he felt like he owed it to his dad, and

908
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: so he started the season off with a thirteen game

909
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: hitting streak which I didn't remember before they figured out

910
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: he couldn't hit a curveball or breaking ball, and then uh,

911
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: he started hitting like ship. But it is like they

912
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: constantly yeah, yeah, I think they just didn't know. I

913
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: think they generally like mix it up more with like

914
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: they would any other hitter. And then but when they realized,

915
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: as if you were basketball player has no left hand

916
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: and can drible left or like, no, you got no

917
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: left bro, Yeah, because he's like by the time you

918
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: get to double a baseball, which is like the second

919
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: highest of the minor leagues, like the second hardest of

920
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: the minor leagues, Like you're facing basically people who don't

921
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: have like giant gaping holes in their swing. But like

922
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: this is probably the first person that they have played

923
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: against who like hasn't played baseball since high school, so

924
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: like he's he still has like high school guy issues

925
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: with his game. But Terry Francona was his manager, which

926
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: is wild, Like Terry Francona, who would eventually win the

927
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Speaker 1: World Series with the Red Sox, and he was like

928
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: he's the hardest working guy I've ever seen, and like

929
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: he would have been a good baseball player. If he

930
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: had stuck with it, which is pretty uh like in

931
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: high school, if he had, I don't know, like, if

932
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Speaker 1: he had kept even then stuck at baseball, he would

933
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Speaker 1: have made it to the majors. Um and then, like

934
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Speaker 1: you're saying even in him in his like leaving basketball,

935
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Speaker 1: that he had actually knuckled down. Francona believed that he

936
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Speaker 1: could have, especially when I was watching the baseball portion.

937
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not an expert in this, but

938
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Speaker 1: like as people were like, actually, he was pretty good

939
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: at baseball, he probably could have gotten he could have

940
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: been I'm just like, oh, you really cannot make an

941
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: honest documentary about someone until they're dead, like you can,

942
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: Like I feel like if Michael Jordan's if there was

943
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: no chance that Michael Jordan would ever find out, uh

944
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: that people were like he was a fine baseball player, Like,

945
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: but no one would say that while he's still alive.

946
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: When you're doing it for Michael Jordan documentary, Yeah, Terry

947
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Francona goes, oh my, you should have seen this, dude.

948
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: He was called him the dead body because he was

949
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: stinking it up, and that is sort of the hot

950
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: take of the series. That like, he wasn't that bad

951
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: at baseball, because the way I went down in history

952
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: was that like he was a joke and should never

953
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: have been playing. One thing that I hadn't really thought

954
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: of was that he like he wasn't starting at the

955
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: lowest level he was. Actually they like put him in

956
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: a league where he like, by all rights, should not

957
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: have been playing double a baseball. Um. And the owner

958
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: of the Bulls is the also the owner of the

959
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: White Sox, and he's like, yeah, we only stuck him

960
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: in the big leagues because we couldn't accommodate him at

961
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: the other facilities. And it's like such a bullshit excuse.

962
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: They were clearly like trying to set him up for

963
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: failure so that he would come back to basketball. I

964
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: think did he just play for the Barons the Birmingham Barns.

965
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Was that the only team he played for? Yeah? I

966
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: think so. And that was and that was like the

967
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: White Sox minor league. Yeah, because I remember I had that.

968
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: I had three Michael Jordan's baseball cards because I was

969
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: a huge baseball card collect I was like, get ready, dad,

970
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: college is on me. Um. Yeah, So that I thought

971
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: that was really like it is just such a strange

972
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: thing that happened that, like the best basketball player of

973
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: all time retired at the height of his powers, went

974
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: and played baseball like like it was just a very

975
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: very cool episode to see that. And then he comes

976
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: back and this is also the episode where the pair

977
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: of episodes where you get him like being mean to

978
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: his teammates like that kind of is a focus of

979
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: the two episodes. They show him like ship talking to

980
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: this guy Scott Burrell was like just like a guy who,

981
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: like most people forget was even on the team. He

982
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: keeps calling him, He's like make this free throw. Ho.

983
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: It was like what he calls him a home multiple times.

984
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: It's like just such a weird thing to hear coming

985
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: out of Michael Jordan's mouth. He's treating him like a pimp. Then,

986
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: huh as not a huge sports fan. My favorite part

987
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 1: of these two episodes was seeing the behind the scenes

988
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: of Space Jam. There this is the behind the scenes

989
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: of Space Jam episode. You get to see that one

990
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: incredible shot of just all green screen and people playing

991
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: the monstars in green defense on him, and then Michael

992
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: Jordan says in the middle like moving his arms and

993
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: you're like movie magic look at it. Look at it

994
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: was inspiring seeing how like because partially due to space Sham,

995
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: he got that like whole court on the Warner Brothers

996
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: lot and all this great stuff happened, and like space

997
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: Jam helped elevate him back to greatness. I loved it.

998
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: That was a really cool detail of the story that

999
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: I hadn't known. I like, I read the book version

1000
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: of this before like two weeks ago, just because I

1001
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: was so excited about this, and like that whole space

1002
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: Jam thing was not in there like that that they

1003
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: have footage miles of. Like he was like, I'll do

1004
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: space Jam if you build a facility where I can

1005
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: practice like around the clock when I'm not shooting, and

1006
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: they like build him this amazing uh like field house

1007
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: essentially on the Warner Brothers lot, and then all the

1008
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: best players in the league started coming out and like

1009
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: practicing with him. And this was after his first like

1010
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: half season back when he kind of sucked uh like

1011
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: for him, uh and like had fucked up, and so

1012
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: he like used it to like scout all the best

1013
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: players in the league. I'm like check out everyone's game,

1014
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: like like lure them into his Yeah. Yeah, it's so

1015
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's great. I do even feel like when

1016
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I feel like it was that

1017
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: sort of comeback moment that it was like Space Jam

1018
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: was a huge deal and was really pushed to kids

1019
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: as being this like massive thing that was going to

1020
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: bring Jordan's back to the mainstream. Like I remember the

1021
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: McDonald's toys for it, the usual. They were the like

1022
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: big I remember had the Lola Bunny and I pierced

1023
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: her ears. But they were like, this is a big

1024
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: fucking deal, Like your seven, Jordan is coming back to basketball.

1025
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: You're getting a fancy McDonald's toy it. Yeah, you know,

1026
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: it's serious. That was the only reason I knew like

1027
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: the Jordan's the Michael Jordan's myth as a kid is

1028
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: they it's the first couple scenes of Space Jam where

1029
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: they're like, and he would go outside every night and

1030
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: he wouldn't stop shooting baskets. But like they give you,

1031
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: like the whole legend primer in Space Jam. It's great,

1032
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: and he wore his old college shorts as underwear there forever.

1033
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: M the Also, the other amazing thing they have is

1034
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: they take you through the practice where he punches Steve

1035
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: Kerr in the face and Steve like punches him in

1036
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: the chest, which I thought would be something that they avoided,

1037
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: but that like next to that part because they go

1038
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: from that, because that's like leading into the seventy two

1039
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: win season when he was like extra motivated and just

1040
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: super piste and Steve Kerrs like he came into camp

1041
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: frothing at the mouth that year, just like really fired up,

1042
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: and so they like get into a fist fight, they

1043
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: make up, and then they go into the beginning of

1044
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: the seventy two win season and they're playing that Rapture

1045
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: remix uh the caras one like bad Boy Rapture remix.

1046
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: So dope. It's like such a great I don't know,

1047
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,959
Speaker 1: the end of episode seven when he's like talking about

1048
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: how driven he is and like crying and then that

1049
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: part of episode eight are like the high points of

1050
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: the documentary for me, and I already loved it, but

1051
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,479
Speaker 1: these these episodes were great. Yeah, Jamie, you have any

1052
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: anything you want to No, I I just I like it.

1053
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: I was I'm really It's next weekend is the last

1054
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: weekend of Jordan episodes, the last last dance. You know,

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Speaker 1: I gotta he gonna win that he's going to win

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Speaker 1: the game. He's gonna win the game, feeling guys he

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Speaker 1: did it. I know he's gonna he's gonna confess, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna forget that his MIC's on when he goes to

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Speaker 1: the bathroom. No spoilers, no spoilers, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna win the game, and then at the end he's

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Speaker 1: going to confess to the murder of punch Steve Kerr

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Speaker 1: in the face of the bathroom. One thing we talked

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Speaker 1: about on last week's episode was Craig Hodges was saying

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Speaker 1: that he thought Jordan like specifically cut him out of

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Speaker 1: the of this documentary series, and I was, well, who cares.

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Speaker 1: He was like kind of a he didn't play that much.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a starter, and apparently so Craig Hodges. First

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Speaker 1: of all, like his game was way ahead of his time.

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Speaker 1: He was like the best three point shooter. It was

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Speaker 1: just like a decade before three point shooting was recognized

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Speaker 1: as like the key to winning a bunch of games. Um.

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Speaker 1: But he was also like the reason the story behind

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Speaker 1: he and Jordan's relationship is really interesting because he was

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Speaker 1: like politically active and during the when the Bulls first

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Speaker 1: went to the Finals. It was against the Lakers and

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Speaker 1: right after the lap d beating of Rodney King, and

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Speaker 1: he tried to get Jordan and Magic Johnson to boycott

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Speaker 1: game one of the finals to like send a message. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And Jordan was like, you're crazy, and Magic Johnson was like,

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Speaker 1: that's too extreme, Craig. And then Craig Hodges like after

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Speaker 1: the next year when the riots happened because the police

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Speaker 1: got off um. Like Craig Hodges basically was like critical

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Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan's for not ever taking a stand and

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Speaker 1: he was basically run out of the league. His agent

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Speaker 1: dropped him. He and like they this article talks about

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Speaker 1: how this article is from like three years ago. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the article talks about how this reporter would like

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Speaker 1: ask NBA players in like two thousand three, like five

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Speaker 1: years after this whole thing happened, like what like why

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Speaker 1: they why the NBA players don't take a political stand?

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Speaker 1: And they're like, well, you don't want to end up

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Speaker 1: like Craig Hodges, who like get got run out of

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Speaker 1: the league for taking a political stand. Wild too, because

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Speaker 1: he I mean he went to meet George H. W.

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Speaker 1: B in a daishiki at the White House and he

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Speaker 1: had written an eight page letter talking about the plight

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Speaker 1: of African Americans in this country and was like, apparently

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Speaker 1: there's an also an anecdote that w was there because

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Speaker 1: you know, he likes basketball too and wanted to meet

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Speaker 1: the teams, and because Hodges was wearing a tshiki, he

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Speaker 1: thought he was not American and very slowly was like hello,

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Speaker 1: and where are you from, sir, And Craig Hodges says,

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Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago. Heights like straight back at him. And

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Speaker 1: what happened was like later on, you know, people found

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Speaker 1: out about that letter and he was asked if he

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Speaker 1: thought the president read and he's like, I don't. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure he didn't um. And then he was also

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Speaker 1: like did another interview where he was like Jack was

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Speaker 1: saying he was talking about seeing these like like Mike

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Speaker 1: commercials and like realizing that this missed opportunity. And he

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Speaker 1: was asked about like the lack of black owners in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and was just very clearly just articulated the

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Speaker 1: problem with the lack of black ownership, racism in the

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Speaker 1: n b A, and all this other stuff of of

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Speaker 1: people failing to address judicial injustice. So that story ran

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Speaker 1: then twenty five days after Chicago won the next championship,

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Speaker 1: Hodges was told he would not be offered a deal

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Speaker 1: and he was only thirty two just days after, and

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Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, it shows you how effectively activists

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Speaker 1: can be erased out of a narrative when it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't quite fit with whatever you're trying to say. Because

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Speaker 1: I'm not I don't look at this and say, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Michael Jordan is evil because he did this whatever,

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Speaker 1: it would have been a very powerful moment in this documentary.

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Speaker 1: I think to actually confront this, this back and forth

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Speaker 1: between him and Craig Hodges, and to talk about the

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Speaker 1: fear he may have had, what he thought he had

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Speaker 1: to lose by speaking up, what the experiences of him

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Speaker 1: as a person of color suddenly having a lot of influence,

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Speaker 1: what you're able to do, what you're scared to do

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Speaker 1: with that voice, looking at the example of other people

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Speaker 1: who have taken stance like I think that's a very

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Speaker 1: very interesting topic to deconstruct because I think that would

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Speaker 1: be very powerful for any person to hear about magic

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Speaker 1: or Michael being presented with a moment to really do something,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure they probably have regrets on some level,

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Speaker 1: but you don't want to talk about it because it's

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Speaker 1: messy or whatever. But my god, like, after seeing you know,

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Speaker 1: reading this, and thank you to the listeners who were

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Speaker 1: pointing this out just our own blind spots on this,

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Speaker 1: it really was. Yeah, yeah, it's funny. When I when

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Speaker 1: I watched the o j Doc, the one episode that

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Speaker 1: I thought they should have included that they did not

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Speaker 1: include was the episode about how sports sort of turns

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Speaker 1: a blind eye to domestic abusers generally, and like, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: it be cool if the Jordan doc had an episode.

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Speaker 1: I have not watched it yet. I'm excited to watch

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Speaker 1: it where they sort of dug in on like here

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Speaker 1: are the ways in which the league fucked with everybody

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Speaker 1: in the nineties. And I've been hearing like snippets that

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the three line with the Scottie Pippen

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Speaker 1: stuff and things like that. But you do sort of

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Speaker 1: wish these docks would sort of take one step back

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Speaker 1: from the you know, the personal narrative and be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I hear the structures that have failed these people as well,

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Speaker 1: and just I don't know, I feel like it would

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Speaker 1: give it additional residence beyond the sort of person to

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Speaker 1: person stories that you hear. I think that's the ransom

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Speaker 1: though for a producer of a doc series like this,

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Speaker 1: because the league is going to hold all that footage

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Speaker 1: at gunpoint and they're gonna say, you want game footage,

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Speaker 1: you better shut the funk up about any short time

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Speaker 1: about shortcomings of the league? Can this can be all

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Speaker 1: a spoken word? It wouldn't be airing on ESPN if

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Speaker 1: they had that kind of access if I feel like

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Speaker 1: every once in a while it does happen, But it's

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Speaker 1: like it just needs to be a documentary and that

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Speaker 1: has like a really good source to stuff. Who is

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Speaker 1: willing to who wants to funk with the league? But

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, there's there are like moments in in in

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Speaker 1: any documentaries about like huge organizations where you're just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I bet that the director would have wanted to get

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Speaker 1: more critical there. But then miles like you're saying, like

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Speaker 1: that would mean that they couldn't use the footage they

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Speaker 1: need to make the fucking thing in the first place, right,

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Speaker 1: But I think it's for what it is. I think

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Speaker 1: as a snapshot, very superficial and like or and even

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Speaker 1: beneath the surface of like this entire saga, I think

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Speaker 1: is really interesting. But yeah, I think, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: feel like perhaps there's an entire other documentary where you

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Speaker 1: get very narrowly about the responsibilities athletes have felt to

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Speaker 1: speak out, especially when they are you know, like they're

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Speaker 1: seen as leaders and like outsized figures to vulnerable communities.

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Speaker 1: Mhm h some very superficial uh. Last notes on the documentary.

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Speaker 1: I just found out that it's still being made, and

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Speaker 1: I think Michael Jordan's found out where saw some of

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Speaker 1: it and saw that his eyes looked like ship because

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Speaker 1: now there are shots where his eyes don't look like

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Speaker 1: ship for the first time, so big development. And also

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Speaker 1: at one point, he like his fashion is a real

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Speaker 1: testament to like what, yeah, to what somebody who is

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Speaker 1: just like has confidence in everything they do, like it

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Speaker 1: and just goes with all their instacs. Like at one

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Speaker 1: point he's wearing like a Marty grab bead necklace that's

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Speaker 1: just like black Marty grab beads, and he's just like

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Speaker 1: rocking it with the tea. Basically, he dresses like a

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Speaker 1: four year old who dresses themselves. It's right funny. It's

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Speaker 1: very clear to me watching this dog that the producers

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Speaker 1: or whoever it was making the movie did not give

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Speaker 1: any guidelines as to like recommended wear, because there's some

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Speaker 1: people in it, like I think like a Scottie Pippins

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Speaker 1: wearing a suit the whole time, but but then like

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Speaker 1: Jordan's wearing whatever the funk he shows up in other

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Speaker 1: it's like, just if, just if you're doing it, just

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Speaker 1: show up business casual. You can't go wrong. But everyone,

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Speaker 1: like some people overshoot it, other people it's it's funny

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Speaker 1: to watch. I wonder if they had produced every to

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Speaker 1: be like, okay, Mike, could you wear like a shirt

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Speaker 1: that isn't mesh this time? It's just Marais on camera.

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Speaker 1: Bit he's like wearing like a fucking rain slicker with

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Speaker 1: a mesh Marina and like fucking teams like what is

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Speaker 1: this outfit? Kate? It's been a pleasure having you on

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Speaker 1: the daily. Zya is where can people find you and

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Speaker 1: follow you? Yeah? Twitter and Instagram both the same at

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Speaker 1: it's at that hagend girl but girls spelled like riot girl,

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Speaker 1: so two ours instead of an eye. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty active on Medium and Spotify as well. And

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Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some other work of social

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying. Yeah, I realized I picked a

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Speaker 1: hard one to articulate because it needs not In order

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Speaker 1: to understand it, you need uh knowledge of a prior meme.

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Speaker 1: But that prior meme is uh the picture that many

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Speaker 1: of us have seen of the white woman at the

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Speaker 1: chalkboard with the insane baby names. Uh. Somebody photoshop that

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Speaker 1: this week to be Grimes's tweet about her baby name

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Speaker 1: with Elon musk Uh, and that brought me a lot

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Speaker 1: of joy. Uh, Jamie, where can people find you? And

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Speaker 1: what's tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? You can find me Twitter?

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Speaker 1: Jamie loved his help Instagram Jamie Krir superstar. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna recommend a video because we talked space Jam and

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: every time space Jam comes up, I'll go back and

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Speaker 1: I rewatched Josh Fadom's classic video space Uh so just

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Speaker 1: a signal boost to space say space Jam two one

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Speaker 1: of my all time favorite YouTube videos ever. I just

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Speaker 1: eat the best Warmer Brothers a Warmer Company. It's the

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Speaker 1: perfect video. So I'll recommend that. Wasn't didn't that come

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Speaker 1: out as like a funnier die exclusive when it first

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Speaker 1: came out? Maybe? Yeah, it came. It came out like

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Speaker 1: a couple of years before the Space Jam two was

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Speaker 1: actually a thing. It's like five years. I just remember.

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Speaker 1: There's like an added layer of absurdity where it's like

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Speaker 1: an fo D release. So good, Miles, where can people

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Speaker 1: find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network,

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Speaker 1: Miles of Grade g R A Y. Also my other

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Speaker 1: podcast for twenty Day Fiance where we talk about ninety

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Speaker 1: day fiance. Uh. Some tweets that I like? Um, a few,

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Speaker 1: my goodness. First one is from Tany Newsome at Trondy

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Speaker 1: Newman Pass guests and co host of Yo Is This racist?

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Speaker 1: Her tweet is love to cook sick of dishes? Need

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Speaker 1: recipe using only paper towels and maybe a hair dryer.

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Speaker 1: Uh that that feels about right. Um. There's another one

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Speaker 1: from Hannah Goldfield at Hannah Goldfield. I'd like to apologize

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Speaker 1: for a mean spirited tweet I wrote about people's moms

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Speaker 1: not being hot. It was a subtweet directed at someone

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Speaker 1: I hate, who I now realized signed on to be

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Speaker 1: the executive producer of my TV show. We regret the error.

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Speaker 1: And finally, this was a tweet that my goodness, Zeke

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Speaker 1: gang member at Rainbow Treasure just tagged us in and

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Speaker 1: it is a helicopter footage of a protest in Clearwater, Florida,

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Speaker 1: UM where people are protesting outside of a gym and

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Speaker 1: to do that, they're doing squats and push ups in

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Speaker 1: the street with signs outside. It's I don't know, God

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Speaker 1: bless y'all, you know, honestly, man, I'm Chelsea Peretti retweeted

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Speaker 1: that and was like, thus proving that you can work

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Speaker 1: out anywhere and not just a very good point, So

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Speaker 1: tweets I've been enjoying. David Rlick tweeted, someone tell Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan the coronavirus said it was better than him. Um.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing that like is a subject of these

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Speaker 1: episodes is like how he uses petty spites and like

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Speaker 1: just absurd ship to motivate him in a way where

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Speaker 1: it like becomes repetitive and you like get the sense

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Speaker 1: of like how boring it must be to be inside

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Speaker 1: his head, because like at one point, George George Carl

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Speaker 1: doesn't come over and say hi to him in a restaurant,

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Speaker 1: and he uses that as like motivation to destroy the

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Speaker 1: SuperSonics in the finals is like, I mean we went

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Speaker 1: to you on See Together. I've seen him out golfing.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna say hi to me. The guy was

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Speaker 1: probably like, I don't want to disturb the most famous

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Speaker 1: person in the world right now, I'll just let him

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Speaker 1: be interesting. Uh. It's like deep, like yeah, he's just

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Speaker 1: was motivated to greatness by sheer pettiness. You're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fun. Yeah, and you realize that, Yeah, his Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame acceptance speech, he just like goes through all

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Speaker 1: of his like petty grievances against everybody who's ever thought

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Speaker 1: they were better than him free even like a fleeting

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Speaker 1: five second period of a game. He just it's it's wild.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, now, if you'll follow me to the

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Speaker 1: grave site of a former high school rival basketball player

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Speaker 1: who I will literally dunk on their grave. Also, I

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Speaker 1: just checked Twitter, and Theresa Lee, frequent guest on Daily's,

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Speaker 1: like tweeted an hour ago. Has anyone else noticed that

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Speaker 1: birds in California are bolder than usual? I hear them

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Speaker 1: all night like they're having it has been they have

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Speaker 1: been louder. I will say they have been louder. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm actually gonna tweet you know who we need

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Speaker 1: to tweet his birds rights activists because birds rights activists

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Speaker 1: has their proverbial beak to the street. That's right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page on a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com where

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Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as the song we ride out on. Excuse

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Speaker 1: me getting choked up like my getting Clint. It's a

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Speaker 1: topic Duran. Duran is neither a Duran nor Duran. Look

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Speaker 1: amongst yourselves, Man, I missed talk with a sketch. What

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Speaker 1: us sketch, Miles, What are we going to ride out

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Speaker 1: on today? We're gonna go on a track old Jurassic

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Speaker 1: five songs that I love from the album Quality Control.

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Speaker 1: But this is the thing, if you're a big j

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Speaker 1: five fin this is there was always a track where

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Speaker 1: a Newmark and Cut chemists will get their own sort

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Speaker 1: of like instrumental like DJ breaks sort of uh slap

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Speaker 1: together mosaic track. And this is that track from the

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Speaker 1: Quality Control album called swing Set, and it's just got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of great scratch scratching. It's got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of great little breakbeats in there. It's like if you

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Speaker 1: ever DJ do, you probably listen to song three times

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Speaker 1: and you could probably go oh yeah because you know

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Speaker 1: all the scratches by Heart, so enjoy this. It's upbeat.

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Speaker 1: Starts to week right, keep it going. We love you

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Speaker 1: all all right. The Daily is like you guys are

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is

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Speaker 1: going to do it for today. We will be back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to them by bye. Let me Dad and bad because

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Speaker 1: of the