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Speaker 3: or to be? To be or not to be? And
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Speaker 2: v U, also known as Film Spotting SAH. I'm Jordan Hoffman.
Speaker 2: Now later in the show, we've got streaming recommendations as always,
Speaker 2: also known as the rex eg a listener request recommendation
Speaker 2: for a hangout comedy in the vein of a semi
Speaker 2: obscure two thousand and five ensemble comedy. I love listener Thomas.
Speaker 2: You're my favorite listener because you're a very funny man.
Speaker 2: And a game which producer Sam is calling, of course,
Speaker 2: to be or not to be Waka Waka Waka.
Speaker 3: I stole his joke. I stole his joke before he
Speaker 3: could make it.
Speaker 2: The first stup is and I think to B is
Speaker 2: actually called to B to V to B TV. I
Speaker 2: think that's the actual name of it. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's called tub. I think it's called to be TV,
Speaker 2: but that's that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 3: Well stream, that's their website, but I don't I don't
Speaker 3: know that, but their logos.
Speaker 4: I think no.
Speaker 2: I think if you get a press release from this company, it's,
Speaker 2: you know, coming up on to b TV. I think
Speaker 2: that's what they call it, but maybe not, but nobody
Speaker 2: calls it that. I think I could be wrong. Once
Speaker 2: in a very very blue moon, the bluest of moons,
Speaker 2: I am wrong. It's rare. Oh, how it's rare. But
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm wrong. Never, Never am I wrong in public,
Speaker 2: but sometimes I'm wrong in private. All right, listen now,
Speaker 2: it's very important to remind the listeners that this is
Speaker 2: our second edition of a semi regular feature we call
Speaker 2: the State of Streaming, and this, of course is about
Speaker 2: two b We did one before on Netflix. We started
Speaker 2: with the Big Red Machine, the most streaming of all streams. Matt,
Speaker 2: do you want to remind the listeners kind of or
Speaker 2: you want to explain to the listeners what this is
Speaker 2: because maybe they missed that first episode? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, So this is the second installment of an occasional
Speaker 3: series we call The.
Speaker 5: State Streaming, where instead of reviewing one title that's on streaming,
Speaker 5: we review an entire streaming service, and.
Speaker 3: We discuss how easy it is to use, the quality
Speaker 3: of their selection, whether it's worth what you're expecting to
Speaker 3: pay on a subscription basis, and at the end of
Speaker 3: the discussion, we assign a score that we can then
Speaker 3: use to compare this service to the other ones we
Speaker 3: have done, and eventually, if we go on long enough,
Speaker 3: we will determine the.
Speaker 5: Greatst streaming service of all time in the history of
Speaker 5: the world.
Speaker 3: And hopefully Sam will add some reverb there to make
Speaker 3: me sound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, echo effects And look, I heard.
Speaker 3: How many sound effects he added to the last week's episode,
Speaker 3: So now I have total I have total rain to
Speaker 3: to add as many sound effects. He's the master of
Speaker 3: the sound effect, so I'm gonna make him earn his foods.
Speaker 2: I was impressed with his ability to to slip in
Speaker 2: clips of the in laws last week was.
Speaker 3: Hope, I hope that you tell a long, rambling story
Speaker 3: just so he can insert the sound of the Jordan
Speaker 3: Hoffman anecdote that he added in there.
Speaker 2: Well we're going to well, you know it's once we
Speaker 2: get this episode started. Come on, let's stop talking and
Speaker 2: start talking. Let's get the episode started. Now, the first
Speaker 2: chapter or the first you know, ven chapter. Yeah, of
Speaker 2: we're gonna determine its library slash how easy it is
Speaker 2: to find titles. Now, I'm gonna go first because I'm
Speaker 2: tired of you talking. The the way I decided to
Speaker 2: do it was twofold because I have in my home
Speaker 2: we have what's called the Apple TV device, the thing
Speaker 2: of a jig you put to your TV. I don't
Speaker 2: have a smart TV. I used to have a Roku
Speaker 2: at some point in my life. I got the Apple
Speaker 2: one and that's what I use. So I used that
Speaker 2: for part of the time, and then I just used
Speaker 2: my laptop because I know that's how the kids watched
Speaker 2: television now is on their laptop. And I gotta says,
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a different world the laptop versus
Speaker 2: the Apple TV in terms of everything usability, but even
Speaker 2: just in terms of finding the titles, because it's a
Speaker 2: lot slower on the Apple TV, at least for me.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of hang in and you know,
Speaker 2: you move your thumb and it didn't quite do what
Speaker 2: you wanted it to do, and it was a little bit,
Speaker 2: a little bit disappointing in terms of the library, Like
Speaker 2: the impressiveness of what Tube has to offer Tooby is
Speaker 2: pretty fig you know the joke as they call the
Speaker 2: people's streamer, right because it's free, you know, I just
Speaker 2: have to watch some ads. So it's you know, movies
Speaker 2: for everybody, and it is impressive. They do have a
Speaker 2: lot of movies you've heard of. It's not all just
Speaker 2: like public domain titles. And but their real win is
Speaker 2: the wacky you know, back of the video store. What
Speaker 2: is this weird thing here? They have a lot of
Speaker 2: oddball stuff. But in terms of my when I first
Speaker 2: went on the page on my Apple TV, I was
Speaker 2: impressed with that they did do some programming for the calendar.
Speaker 2: Now I looked at it, I did my inventory my
Speaker 2: investigation soon after the fourth of July, so it had
Speaker 2: right up top Independence Day, and I thought, hey, somebody's thinking.
Speaker 2: So they had Independence Day right up top, and also
Speaker 2: Independence Day Resurgence, which, as it happened, I've never seen before,
Speaker 2: and I ended up watching that movie as my I
Speaker 2: was going to test out a feature, so I ended
Speaker 2: up watching Independence Day two, which is a crazy movie.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of cool. And then I guess
Speaker 2: it somehow knew me. It was sniffing me out because
Speaker 2: it had Star Trek the motion picture right up top two.
Speaker 2: I know, everything's connected and it kind of knows. So
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's there for everybody or that
Speaker 2: was there for me. And then also they had the
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson documentary, the one that came out just after
Speaker 2: he passed away. I think it's called this is It?
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson? This is It? I think it's called that.
Speaker 2: And I figured, oh, that's smart because Michael the feature
Speaker 2: film is still blazon it up at the box office,
Speaker 2: it's still in theaters. It's the number two movie of
Speaker 2: the year box office wise. So I thought that was,
Speaker 2: you know, somebody is smart. They're programming this well. But
Speaker 2: then you drill down a little bit and they have
Speaker 2: these categories that just didn't quite make sense to me.
Speaker 2: They had a category for drama and drama I think
Speaker 2: in the land to B is just mean a synonym
Speaker 2: for movie or show, because there are things in there
Speaker 2: that I would never consider drama or you know, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, the remake of The Poseidon Adventure, which I
Speaker 2: forgot even existed, Is that something you would put in drama,
Speaker 2: I guess it's very dramatic.
Speaker 3: There's a title way of Jordan.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, sure, the TV show The forty four hundred,
Speaker 2: which was a sci fi thing, drama, pan Am, the
Speaker 2: mad Man rip off with what's her name Christina Ricci,
Speaker 2: the comedy burlesque with Share the kind of hy a
Speaker 2: fantasy film, beautiful creatures, that's all in drama. I thought
Speaker 2: that was a little weird. I scrolled down a little
Speaker 2: further to romance and burlesque, and beautiful Creatures were there again,
Speaker 2: which led me to believe that they don't have you know,
Speaker 2: those are relatively new movies. They're at least from this century,
Speaker 2: and they have stars. And the truth is a lot
Speaker 2: of what makes to be cool is that they have
Speaker 2: a lot of odd ball stuff from days of yore,
Speaker 2: Like they have no nine zillion episodes of Doctor Who
Speaker 2: and the Old Doctor Who, you know, the one that
Speaker 2: looks like it's shot on you know, very cheap videotape
Speaker 2: and does not have a big budget. You know, that's
Speaker 2: kind of the two v Bread and Butter, which, in
Speaker 2: a way I respect. A couple of other funny things
Speaker 2: I saw in the in the when I was like
Speaker 2: surveying the catalog. They had a category called creator Verse
Speaker 2: and I had no idea what creator Verse was, and
Speaker 2: it looked to me a lot of in house produced
Speaker 2: stuff that or a lot of podcasts. It was just
Speaker 2: people talking. Then they had a category called before they
Speaker 2: there were Stars. I'm like, oh, that's kind of cute.
Speaker 2: So it had like, you know, the movie night Shift.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that had Shelley Long and it before
Speaker 2: she was famous. That's I love the movie night Shift.
Speaker 2: That's great. And then I had the TV show Party
Speaker 2: of Five and I'm like, well, that's the show that
Speaker 2: made them all stars. And I had the movie The
Speaker 2: Lost Boys, and again it's like, that's the movie that
Speaker 2: made Cory Feldman famous. And I had the series two
Speaker 2: to two seven and no disrespec to Marla Gibbs already
Speaker 2: was famous. She was in The Jeffersons and who became
Speaker 2: famous from two. I didn't know. That category just was
Speaker 2: all kind of weird to me. But then as you
Speaker 2: drill down further, they had other categories. They had something
Speaker 2: called Stanley Kubrick Essentials, which I thought was surprising, and
Speaker 2: it had only six films full metal jacket pads of Glory, Lolita,
Speaker 2: The Killing Killers, Kiss and Fear and Desire, which was
Speaker 2: which is a movie I guess in the public domain now.
Speaker 2: But when I was young, and I think when Matt
Speaker 2: and when you were young, and when Sam was young
Speaker 2: and we were learning about Stanley Kubrick, that was the
Speaker 2: movie you couldn't find because it's not very good, and
Speaker 2: it was kind of nobody owned it. Nowadays it's easy
Speaker 2: to find you to go on YouTube and watch it,
Speaker 2: but they have it there. I was kind of impressed
Speaker 2: with that. And then they also had something called Myths
Speaker 2: and Legends, and I got to say, this was great.
Speaker 2: This is like every Steve Reeves movie. You know, a
Speaker 2: lot of hercules, a lot of you know, I guess
Speaker 2: because The Odyssey's coming out soon. They had that in there,
Speaker 2: a lot of strong men in tight shorts, very very
Speaker 2: rich bench. I just clicked on one at random called Atlas,
Speaker 2: shot on location in Greece. It was a Roger Korman production,
Speaker 2: but the quality it didn't just look like a VHS.
Speaker 2: It looked like somebody had dubbed their friends VHS and
Speaker 2: then the VHS player had the tracking off a little bit.
Speaker 2: It looked so bad that I actually could not watch
Speaker 2: more than five minutes, like this just looks like mud,
Speaker 2: But I was kind of impressed that it was there.
Speaker 2: So in terms of my take on the library, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not the spot for the hottest new releases. You know,
Speaker 2: that's still gonna be HBO Max. But in terms of like,
Speaker 2: oh they got this weird thing, I gotta say I
Speaker 2: was kind of impressed with it. I will say though,
Speaker 2: that on the laptop it's a lot easier to find things,
Speaker 2: but that's the net. That's the next category is the interface.
Speaker 2: So in terms of the library itself, I got to
Speaker 2: say I was pretty impressed, especially with the old TV
Speaker 2: shows doctor Hood. And you know, my wife's been watching
Speaker 2: Dynasty because she'd never seen it, even though she's like
Speaker 2: the perfect age and demeanor to be a Dynasty or fan.
Speaker 3: We're talking about this, I think recently.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this, Like one day she woke up. I
Speaker 2: think she was like looking at Instagram and there was
Speaker 2: like a supercut of like all the like everybody getting
Speaker 2: slapped on Dynasty, and she's like, how have I never
Speaker 2: seen Dynasty? What's wrong with me? And she declared, from
Speaker 2: this day forth, I shall watch every Dynasty episode and
Speaker 2: she's probably by now next to done. I wonder if
Speaker 2: she's gonna be doing Dallas next and she's been enjoying it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, every episode of Dynasty is on there. Ever
Speaker 2: episode of Dallas and other things of that ilk Falcon
Speaker 2: Crest I'm sure is on there. That's what they're all about.
Speaker 2: You know, it was dark Shadows, all that stuff is.
Speaker 2: That's that's the bread and butter is old TV from
Speaker 2: I think our listeners tend to be around our age,
Speaker 2: or millennials at least, so TVs that you kind of
Speaker 2: remember from from your childhood are on there.
Speaker 3: Here's how I investigated the library of TB and we
Speaker 3: should say if you don't know TOUB, which we didn't
Speaker 3: really mention that, it's you know, AD supported totally free.
Speaker 3: According to Wikipedia, it has something like one hundred million
Speaker 3: monthly users, which is staggering. Was founded in twenty fourteen
Speaker 3: by a couple of guys who had worked for another
Speaker 3: company named ad Rise, which I remember that name from
Speaker 3: that time. They built the business on licensing content like
Speaker 3: ancient episodes of Doctor Who I guess, and making everything
Speaker 3: available on demand, but building in what I often find
Speaker 3: to be very jarring. Ad breaks, but the company was
Speaker 3: then sold. It's now owned by Fox. This is a
Speaker 3: wing of the Fox conglomerate. They acquired it in March
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, four hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Wow, a lot of dough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what two B is. As you mentioned,
Speaker 3: they have movies, they have TV. They also have live TV.
Speaker 3: You know, they have what's called fast free at supported
Speaker 3: streaming television where they have, you know, instead of on demand,
Speaker 3: it's you can scroll through a channel guide and if
Speaker 3: you want to watch old episodes of one show, they
Speaker 3: often have them playing around the clock, you know. If
Speaker 3: you know, there's a twenty four to seven channel for
Speaker 3: Supermarket Sweep in case you want to know what Hammerger
Speaker 3: Helper cost in nineteen ninety two. There's a twenty four
Speaker 3: to seven channel for Dateline NBC just in case you,
Speaker 3: like Jordan Hoffman, need to listen to the sound of
Speaker 3: Stone Phillip's voice to send you off to sleep after
Speaker 3: a hard day's work. And there is even a twenty
Speaker 3: four hour channel for the FBI, just in case, at
Speaker 3: any time of the day or night, you need to
Speaker 3: recreate the Leonardo DiCaprio pointing meme from Once upon a
Speaker 3: Time in Hollywood by actually pointing at a TV show
Speaker 3: and that's playing the FBI. There you go. So in
Speaker 3: terms of the library, I tooled around like you did, Jordan.
Speaker 3: What I I also did was I decided to like
Speaker 3: type in because when I go to a streaming service,
Speaker 3: I want to see what like directors they have and
Speaker 3: what they have available from directors that I might want
Speaker 3: to watch something for. So I'm going to run through
Speaker 3: just I have a half dozen names I typed in
Speaker 3: kind of at random, just thinking of names, and I'll
Speaker 3: tell you who they had. I typed in Martin Scorsese.
Speaker 3: They had four films, Mean Streets, Raging Bull, The Age
Speaker 3: of Innocence, and The Last Waltz. I typed in Jane Campion.
Speaker 2: I have to interrupt. That's fascinating because why didn't I
Speaker 2: see those when I did my audit. Those are big
Speaker 2: ass movies that should have been on you know, bubbled up,
Speaker 2: you know it's ridiculous, Raging Bulls, Oscar Winner.
Speaker 3: Come on, I don't I don't trust the ALGORTITHM. I
Speaker 3: need I need to search for me. I don't trust it,
Speaker 3: So I typed in Jane Campion. And I got one
Speaker 3: film in the cut. I typed in Akira Kurosawa. I
Speaker 3: got one, two, three, I got five films seven Samurai Hidden, four, Tortress,
Speaker 3: Ron High and Low, and Raschamont. So that's that's not bad.
Speaker 3: But I typed spiel I typed in Steven Spielberg, eh zero.
Speaker 3: I typed in Quentin Tarantino, eh zero. So I guess
Speaker 3: that's five names, not six. But so yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: mixed bag. Some directors you're you know, you're you're actually
Speaker 3: gonna be able to find stuff. Some you're not. Now
Speaker 3: that said, I also, as you said, they have these categories,
Speaker 3: and I looked through the categories and many were as
Speaker 3: Jordan described, very strange, very random, seemingly haphazard, you know,
Speaker 3: dramas like the remake of Poseidon. But I did find
Speaker 3: this one. I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 3: you spotted this one Jordan called double Features. Did you
Speaker 3: see this one?
Speaker 2: No? No, I didn't see it.
Speaker 3: So the Double Features collection was is literally two movies
Speaker 3: that could be played together, and they're just arranged in order,
Speaker 3: so you had to kind of see and recognize the
Speaker 3: Double Features. But here's just a list of the movies
Speaker 3: in just this collection, Gunfight at the OK Corral, The
Speaker 3: Man Who Shot Liberty, Valance, The Doors Walk, Hard Boyhood, Slacker,
Speaker 3: The Killer, and Hard Boiled Rachaman and Seventh Samurai. We
Speaker 3: already mentioned. They have that Mother and Burning Long Feature
Speaker 3: Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Yep, Eraserhead, Inland Empire, The Dark,
Speaker 3: Crystal and Labyrinth and Le Samurai and Thief, and.
Speaker 2: That, Wow, every one of those movies is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that that's not every title, that is just
Speaker 3: the good titles in there, and that that one collection
Speaker 3: on two B has more good old movies than all
Speaker 3: of Netflix and several other streaming services. So I think
Speaker 3: we have to give them a certain amount of credit
Speaker 3: that their library actually has. It may not be the
Speaker 3: deepest in the world. It's not as good as going
Speaker 3: to Kim's Video, but if you want to watch some
Speaker 3: classic old films, they actually have some. And so I
Speaker 3: thought that was pretty good. Now. The only other thing
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention, because we're already yacking a lot,
Speaker 3: I watched on twob this week just to get a
Speaker 3: taste of the two B. I watched two movies. I
Speaker 3: watched Paths of Glory, which Jordan mentioned, and I watched
Speaker 3: Return of the Killer Tomatoes, and yes, I mean that
Speaker 3: is a range, that's expansive, that is a variety. And
Speaker 3: I appreciate the fact that if you use this free
Speaker 3: service you can watch a wide variety of things. I
Speaker 3: think that is good. And let me see if I
Speaker 3: have anything else I wanted to say here before we
Speaker 3: give our scores. Oh, I just I look through some
Speaker 3: of the genres, because things are also arranged by genre.
Speaker 3: I looked under action. Do you want to guess, Jordan,
Speaker 3: how many action movies, or at least movies they have
Speaker 3: listed as action on TB.
Speaker 2: Probably one hundred and seventy five, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's pretty close. It was two hundred. They listed two
Speaker 3: hundred exactly when I looked. And you know, that's better
Speaker 3: than a most video stores. You know, my local Blockbuster
Speaker 3: when I was a kid did not have two hundred
Speaker 3: action movies, right, And it's an eclectic selection. They have
Speaker 3: the original Rollerball, but they've also got Who Killed Captain Alex.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen that, Jordan, but it
Speaker 3: is one of these movies from well Collywood, which is delightful.
Speaker 3: We don't have time to talk about it now, but
Speaker 3: just again a range of options they had. The very
Speaker 3: first Academy Award Best Picture winner, Wings was in that genre.
Speaker 3: So it's not always easy to find things because you
Speaker 3: have to scroll that action genre. I did not see
Speaker 3: I was looking on my laptop. I did not see
Speaker 3: a way to rearrange it, to sort it a to
Speaker 3: Z or Z or even by your release. You just
Speaker 3: had to look through the whole thing. Here's what we
Speaker 3: got and you got to look through it, and that
Speaker 3: can be frustrating.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is, yeah, like two B is
Speaker 2: like go play like you know, we got it all
Speaker 2: for you, but we're not making it easy. I think
Speaker 2: that's the yin and yang of it. I do want
Speaker 2: to add a couple of things. Number One, I saw
Speaker 2: who killed Captain Allen's with you, by the way, we
Speaker 2: were next to one another screaming and yelling in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2: Number Two, we got to talk about the ads now.
Speaker 2: I watched a feature film also for my first time.
Speaker 2: On two B. I watched Independence Day Resurgence, which is
Speaker 2: a terrible movie. And I did watch it kind of
Speaker 2: late at night and I was on the couch and
Speaker 2: I was laying down, and because I wasn't gonna be
Speaker 2: writing about this movie, I knew full well that I'd
Speaker 2: be following and sleep, and in fact I did. And
Speaker 2: then the ad breaks would come every twelve and a
Speaker 2: half minutes, every sixteen minutes, whatever it is. And the
Speaker 2: ads in classic form were so loud that they woke
Speaker 2: me up off the couch. I mean, that's just a
Speaker 2: classic move. The ads did come kind of randomly, it
Speaker 2: seemed like they did. It wasn't in the middle of
Speaker 2: somebody talking, but it just sort of like, oh and
Speaker 2: a d here it is another thing about a cholesterol pill. Fine,
Speaker 2: but here's something interesting. There is the live TV thing
Speaker 2: that you talked about beautifully, you know, twenty four hours
Speaker 2: of Supermarket Sweep. And I did do an audit on that,
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty familiar with that from Pluto TV, Pluto
Speaker 2: TV and to BTV are I would say the Pepsi
Speaker 2: and coke to one another. And I oftentimes play around
Speaker 2: with Pluto's live TV because they have some cool stuff
Speaker 2: when there deep, deep, deep in their range, like they
Speaker 2: have a channel just devoted to like art, art museums,
Speaker 2: just like floating around the Hermitage and Russia. They have
Speaker 2: a lot of shows. They have like a classical music
Speaker 2: channel where it's just like Symphonies the Vienna Symphony doing
Speaker 2: a show which I sometimes put on in the background.
Speaker 2: And then the thing that I really love is they
Speaker 2: have a channel which is just like spa music and
Speaker 2: shots of nature, which I think is great. I forget
Speaker 2: what they call it on Pluto, but it's like a
Speaker 2: beautiful shot of a lagoon in Bora Bora. And then
Speaker 2: just you know, synthesizer music. I love it. So I
Speaker 2: was looking on tub's offerings and they didn't have anything
Speaker 2: that I just mentioned like that. They have a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff. They have live news from Montana. If you
Speaker 2: want to know what the weather's going to be in
Speaker 2: Bothe in Montana, they got it. They got a lot
Speaker 2: of sports, a lot of golf, a lot of race,
Speaker 2: you know, F one racing, a lot of college sports
Speaker 2: not my thing, a lot of Spanish language stuff. It's impressive.
Speaker 2: And then you know twenty four hours of doctor who
Speaker 2: all this sort of thing. But they didn't have this.
Speaker 2: So I did like a search in the search bar.
Speaker 2: I looked up classical music, thinking if that channel with
Speaker 2: like symphonies would be on there, and it wasn't They
Speaker 2: had some documentaries about Beethoven, Mozar or whatever. But then
Speaker 2: they actually had the thing I was looking for, which
Speaker 2: is just like a shot of nature or a shot
Speaker 2: of science, like you know hubble telescope pictures under music.
Speaker 2: So I found one and it was truly it was
Speaker 2: like kind of bad screensaver shots of galaxies and quasars
Speaker 2: and supernovas. I think they were computer generated even but
Speaker 2: I put it on and it was spa music and
Speaker 2: it was a good thing to have in the background.
Speaker 2: Now this is the Punchline'm getting to this Matt. I
Speaker 2: put it on thinking wouldn't it be funny you put
Speaker 2: this on to go to sleep? Because it also said
Speaker 2: it was like five hours long. You put it on
Speaker 2: to go to sleep, the ads are going to wake
Speaker 2: you up, Like what's the point, Like that's that's the
Speaker 2: worst thing. You're gonna drift off, drift off that it's
Speaker 2: gonna be like are you suffering from my high cholesterol?
Speaker 2: But it didn't happen. They actually turned off the ads
Speaker 2: for this type of feature. Now they have a lot
Speaker 2: of them. So somebody working at two B has some smarts.
Speaker 2: They said, you know what, let's let's turn off our
Speaker 2: ad function for the go to sleep channels. It wasn't
Speaker 2: a channel though it was a program, they didn't have
Speaker 2: a channel for it. You had to find these things,
Speaker 2: and they had many of them, and I found them
Speaker 2: by searching classical music. I'm sure if you search by
Speaker 2: SPA music or relaxation, they had a lot. They had
Speaker 2: one of Tibetan's singing balls. I didn't plus play, but
Speaker 2: they you know, they have like eight hours of Tibetan
Speaker 2: singing balls. I think that's great. So hats off to
Speaker 2: two be. I was kind of impressed. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: sure this is their least watched thing on the entire platform.
Speaker 2: Are these weird little go to sleep things? But for me,
Speaker 2: I gotta say, hats off.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I think we should factor when we're giving
Speaker 3: our scores here from zero to ten. We should only
Speaker 3: talk about the library here, and the commercial aspect we
Speaker 3: can talk about. I think in the next section that
Speaker 3: the intrusiveness of the commercials, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: So I do, yes, so, but the fact that they
Speaker 3: have spa music that you can fall asleep to, that
Speaker 3: certainly you should consider. So Jordan out of yeah, a
Speaker 3: score of one to ten. What do you give two
Speaker 3: b's a library.
Speaker 2: I give it an eight, an eight.
Speaker 3: I decided just because it's so hard to use, like
Speaker 3: to find things. I dinged it a little bit and
Speaker 3: I said, a seven point five. It is hard to use.
Speaker 3: You gotta work for it. You gotta work for it.
Speaker 3: But there is good stuff on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also how much did it cost you? Book gus,
Speaker 2: it costs you nothing. You should work, Get off your
Speaker 2: ass and work.
Speaker 3: Okay. So the second finger of our five part score
Speaker 3: that we're measuring our streaming services on is the playback,
Speaker 3: the interface, how easy it is to watch something or
Speaker 3: rewind something. I think this is where the commercials absolutely
Speaker 3: become a factor. And Jordan, there was something I know
Speaker 3: you wanted to address here, which was also like signing
Speaker 3: up for the service.
Speaker 2: Right to B is free and they will not accept
Speaker 2: your money to make to make the ads go away.
Speaker 2: But the one thing they will ask you to do
Speaker 2: pretty much, there's a big yellow button no matter where you.
Speaker 3: Go submit to a test.
Speaker 2: Oh, register your email address, because you know, there's nothing
Speaker 2: more important on the Internet than your data. That's all
Speaker 2: they want is your data, man, your data. So you
Speaker 2: give them your right. If you give them your email address,
Speaker 2: they will give you They will allow you to hold
Speaker 2: your place in something you're watching. So if you watch
Speaker 2: half of Independence Day Resurgence and then put it on
Speaker 2: pause for a day and a half and come back.
Speaker 3: You're gonna almost sleepot in the middle of the night, right.
Speaker 2: So if you register, you can do it. Pluto does
Speaker 2: the same thing. And I have not registered, and my
Speaker 2: wife has not either, and she keeps complaining. She's like,
Speaker 2: I got a register because she's watching Dynasty over weeks
Speaker 2: and weeks and she keeps having to go, wait was it?
Speaker 2: Was it episode thirty two or episode thirty one, and
Speaker 2: but says, well, you can register and you can find
Speaker 2: your place. She's like, I don't want to do that,
Speaker 2: which I understand, because you're gonna get emails for the
Speaker 2: rest of your life from Tube. You do that, your
Speaker 2: your grandkids are gonna get harassed by Tube. So that
Speaker 2: would add that would help the usability. But it comes
Speaker 2: to a cause and I haven't done it now. The
Speaker 2: other thing about the use of the playback interface, how
Speaker 2: easy it is to watch rewind blah blah blah. It
Speaker 2: really depends on where you're doing it if you're doing
Speaker 2: it on your laptop or I would imagine your iPad.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good on the Apple TV, at least in
Speaker 2: my home. Uh, it's pretty bad actually, Like it's it's
Speaker 2: you move your thumb to get the cursor over and
Speaker 2: there's a lag. Now I don't think that's due to
Speaker 2: my you know, my Wi Fi, because when I do
Speaker 2: it on on the bigger red Rids machine on Netflix,
Speaker 2: it works like a charm because they're, you know, because
Speaker 2: I'm paying for that for this, They're like, what, you
Speaker 2: want me to move fast? You're not even paying So
Speaker 2: it's not Uh, it's not the best. So I give
Speaker 2: them high marks in usability for the laptop. But on
Speaker 2: my Apple TV with my little Apple remote, it's pretty crappy,
Speaker 2: I gotta say. And you got to type stuff in
Speaker 2: and you know you're using the letter you know you
Speaker 2: can't type. You're typing in if you want a doctor
Speaker 2: who E O C to it's a little bit annoying.
Speaker 2: And then in terms of the live TV section, it's
Speaker 2: almost unusable on the Apple TV because things hang. You
Speaker 2: got your screen. It's like I felt like my like
Speaker 2: my like my great grandfather. Wow, what is this. It's
Speaker 2: so much noise, it's it's total chaos on the lap.
Speaker 3: Flash and the number twelve over and over. What I do?
Speaker 2: The the live TV function on the laptop was cool,
Speaker 2: and that's how I dug down and that's how I
Speaker 2: found the twenty four hours of supermarket sweep. It was
Speaker 2: pretty cool. The one thing I will say is you
Speaker 2: can't get a moment of quiet. So when you open
Speaker 2: it up the live TV, the top channel automatically comes on.
Speaker 2: And because right now we're in the middle of the
Speaker 2: World Cup. Yes, and they like the World Cup. That's
Speaker 2: impressive because they're probably because the start of Fox. So
Speaker 2: Fox has put tossed a little World Cup on there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of sports here too, like and
Speaker 2: I would imagine any sports on Fox is going to
Speaker 2: be on here. So that's great if you don't want
Speaker 2: to pay for cable or whatever. You know. I don't
Speaker 2: know if football games are on here or not, but
Speaker 2: but I had a lot of sports that I got through.
Speaker 2: So while I was invoice inventorying and look for cool
Speaker 2: stuff on the live TV, I couldn't get the World
Speaker 2: Cup to stop. And there was no X there was
Speaker 2: no mute there was no pause. And then when I
Speaker 2: was like enough these I don't the World Cup has
Speaker 2: riding me crazy, I just clicked at something at random.
Speaker 2: It was some old movie with Roslin Russell, and then
Speaker 2: she was there and Roslind Russell couldn't shut up. So
Speaker 2: I was a little bit annoyed at the lack of
Speaker 2: an off button. But so that's a ding and I
Speaker 2: didn't even get that far on my Apple TV. It
Speaker 2: was so unusable. So I give it very poor marks
Speaker 2: on usability on the Apple TV, and I give it
Speaker 2: fair marks on my computer.
Speaker 3: Okay, I will say this, the commercials are definitely a factor.
Speaker 3: But here is a twist for you, Jordan. I tell
Speaker 3: you the that ambient noise channel you were talking about.
Speaker 3: I am not sure whether it was just that channel
Speaker 3: that didn't have the commercials, because I was watching things
Speaker 3: and there were sometimes commercials, and then sometimes I would
Speaker 3: not get commercials, and I don't know if it's a
Speaker 3: glitch or I don't know how it works. Tell you, Yeah,
Speaker 3: when I was watching like Return of the Killer Tomatoes,
Speaker 3: I think I only had like one commercial break in
Speaker 3: the entire movie, and sometimes you would get something every
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes or so and other times there would be
Speaker 3: long stretches.
Speaker 2: And if they scale it based on I don't know
Speaker 2: how many times it's used. If there's something that's so
Speaker 2: rare and such such bargain basement that no one in
Speaker 2: the right mind is pressing play, they just leave it alone.
Speaker 2: But something like you said you watched Pads of Glory,
Speaker 2: which is in there, that's in the Cooper collection, that
Speaker 2: gets good placement. I watched Independence Day two right around
Speaker 2: Independence Day. They loaded that one with ads, so it
Speaker 2: could be that they have a scaling system. The more
Speaker 2: people click, the more ads get served.
Speaker 3: So yes, and I will say the one thing is
Speaker 3: like a Prime video, which even though you pay for it,
Speaker 3: you now have ads unless you I guess you can
Speaker 3: probably I think you can pay for Prime video, Prime
Speaker 3: or something where you can avoid the abs. Ads. You
Speaker 3: can't avoid the abs when you're watching something like you
Speaker 3: know with John Krasinski and at the ebbs are going
Speaker 3: to be right there. But the ad breaks are visible
Speaker 3: in the program. They show you on little with little
Speaker 3: dots on the timeline. There's going to be a commercial
Speaker 3: coming up in X number of minutes. So if you
Speaker 3: were like, okay, I need to use the restroom. Oh,
Speaker 3: I'll just wait for there to be a commercial and
Speaker 3: I'll go use it on to be again, you're they're
Speaker 3: expecting you to do the work. They're not. This is
Speaker 3: a little bit bargain basement. We don't know, we don't
Speaker 3: know when there's going to be a commercial, and they
Speaker 3: might just pop up. And that does sometimes make them
Speaker 3: more obtrusive, because you can be in the middle of
Speaker 3: a dramatic scene about the you know, the killing the
Speaker 3: potential killings of soldiers for being cowards in World War One,
Speaker 3: if you're watching Paths of Glory. But other times they're
Speaker 3: like you could be watching something and there you can
Speaker 3: go long stretches and go, you know, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: a commercial in a while, and you don't know when
Speaker 3: there's gonna be one coming up.
Speaker 2: So it's a jump scare. It's good for harbor, it is.
Speaker 3: It can be a little bit of a jump scare.
Speaker 3: All right, So what did you give your number? Did
Speaker 3: I miss it? Now I'm going to say five. I
Speaker 3: guess I'm going to say six, Yeah, five, Sam? Are
Speaker 3: you keeping track of these numbers for us? Sam?
Speaker 4: He is?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how furious Stanley Kubrick would be at
Speaker 2: the way to be his treating Paths of Glory. He
Speaker 2: would just be I mean, this is the guy who
Speaker 2: would send notes to the projectionists on how on on
Speaker 2: what the volume levels should be at which reel and whatnot.
Speaker 3: It's not just, It's not just. It's not just two
Speaker 3: B though. I mean, on Netflix you can watch something
Speaker 3: at one point five speed. You think Kubrick would have
Speaker 3: liked that. You think you would have liked you watching
Speaker 3: Tom Cruise wander through fake New York City at one
Speaker 3: point five speed?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, Probably not, Probably not? Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: chapter Yeah. The next chapter is but reliability reliability slash,
Speaker 2: How often do you deal with crashing out of sync audio,
Speaker 2: grainy video? And my response was, seems okay. Didn't have
Speaker 2: any problem with any of the things you mentioned, except
Speaker 2: for this. I did audit some of those really kooky
Speaker 2: early Doctor Who episodes because I like early Doctor Who,
Speaker 2: and there's no way to make Doctor Who look good.
Speaker 2: I mean, unless you were to Remasgine. There's no way,
Speaker 2: because the original format was one inch videotape. But it
Speaker 2: looked particularly bad on my TV when I was streaming
Speaker 2: it on two B like it was the it was
Speaker 2: the worst I've ever seen Doctor Who. And then I
Speaker 2: watched it on my computer. I had the live Doctor
Speaker 2: Who channel on on both my computer and my TV,
Speaker 2: and it was funny because like they were like half
Speaker 2: a second out of sinc So I'm here and you know,
Speaker 2: the guy with the crazy scarf talk twice. It looked
Speaker 2: better on my TV. There was more, maybe just because
Speaker 2: the pixelization was better than the image was smaller. So
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be watching an old, old, old old
Speaker 2: thing on a bad format to begin with, stick with
Speaker 2: your computer. So everything else was fine. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: only so much you could do with old Doctor Who.
Speaker 2: But it looked unused. Like I've seen Doctor Who's streaming
Speaker 2: on other services and it hasn't looked quite as bad
Speaker 2: as it looked on to me. So I got to
Speaker 2: ding them a little bit for that.
Speaker 3: I didn't use a television. I just used my computer,
Speaker 3: which I use for a lot of viewing, and I
Speaker 3: didn't have any issues. I mean, the only thing I
Speaker 3: would say is the ads. You know, the ads are
Speaker 3: weird and random and sometimes very intrusive, but you know,
Speaker 3: like I watched Paths of Glory you know, was it
Speaker 3: as good as watching it on a beautiful criterion Blu
Speaker 3: ray or. I don't know if they have a four K,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure it wasn't. But it looked pretty good.
Speaker 3: It did not look, you know, like you know, I
Speaker 3: didn't have issues with the with the audio, with the video.
Speaker 3: It was a decent print. I know Jordan was saying
Speaker 3: earlier he had some issues with prints looking like mud so,
Speaker 3: but I didn't have any issues to speak of. I
Speaker 3: would I wish, I wish I did rewinding back and forth.
Speaker 2: It was fine. I mean, it was like a rather service.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, exactly, I guess, I will say. And maybe
Speaker 3: this was something I should have maybe mentioned in the
Speaker 3: previous segment. I don't love, at least on the laptop,
Speaker 3: that you have to rewind thirty seconds. I like a
Speaker 3: fifteen second back. Thirty is too much, you might be right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: fifteen is the right number.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I want to maybe I want I missed a line,
Speaker 3: or I want to rewatch a reaction or a specific shot.
Speaker 3: I don't need to go back thirty seconds. That's too much,
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 2: I just watched something on Disney Plus last night on
Speaker 2: my computer, and they had the fifteen, which is the
Speaker 2: I even thought to myself, that's the right amount. It's perfect.
Speaker 2: So it's it's pretty good. I give it a seven.
Speaker 3: I give it an eight.
Speaker 2: The next category is quality. Quality in terms of the.
Speaker 3: Well it's well, let me let me interrupt, it's quality
Speaker 3: slash variety of originals originals? Okay, how often do you
Speaker 3: want to watch and how often do you actually watch
Speaker 3: the original programming?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna be honest with you. I didn't
Speaker 2: really understand the assignment. I give this it incomplete. I
Speaker 2: didn't actually watch any to be originals. I did see
Speaker 2: a few of them. They looked mostly like podcasts, but
Speaker 2: what I and there was one that I thought was
Speaker 2: an original. It was like it was like these two
Speaker 2: people just talking. I don't know what it was, but
Speaker 2: I did. I was amazed at the live TV, the
Speaker 2: depth of it, like the Bob Ross channel. Uh there
Speaker 2: was I mentioned for there was no chill out stuff
Speaker 2: like on Pluto. But they did have a channel devoted
Speaker 2: to BBC Earth, which I thought was pretty cool, Like
Speaker 2: that's what I could see using a lot. Then they
Speaker 2: had a chat so funny they had these Remember there
Speaker 2: was a I say it's like two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine when they had all these shows
Speaker 2: Ice Road Truckers and Alaska Fishermen, all these like guys
Speaker 2: at work in dangerous jobs. And there was a show
Speaker 2: that I actually did watch once for like I got
Speaker 2: sucked in the in the in the tractor beam and
Speaker 2: watched it for like an afternoon called Axemen.
Speaker 3: Do you remember ax Men? It was a popular shotdown.
Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe the name sounds vaguely familiar. I never
Speaker 3: reached it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was about these guys. It was about loggers
Speaker 2: in Oregon chopping down trees and and there's a twenty
Speaker 2: four hour channel of axe Men. The people who we're
Speaker 2: in axe Men aren't even going to be watching the
Speaker 2: mom of the head axe Man even they're not going
Speaker 2: to be watching this. It's ridiculous. So it was just
Speaker 2: sort of like I was really impressed with the depth
Speaker 2: of it. And then there were some other things that
Speaker 2: I thought were originals, but they were just YouTube channels
Speaker 2: on the live TV. And this is where I'm the
Speaker 2: kind of I'm not in the demographic, but a lot
Speaker 2: of these were like streamers, like just people talking, not
Speaker 2: like political streamers like you see in the new like
Speaker 2: you know, these loudmouth racists and what and it wasn't
Speaker 2: like that. But there was something called Jubilee TV. And
Speaker 2: I have seen clips of this online from the from
Speaker 2: the youth. It's like these dating shows that are in
Speaker 2: like a white void where they get a lot of
Speaker 2: sexy girls and tight clothes and a lot of honky
Speaker 2: guys and tight clothes and they like kind of flirt
Speaker 2: with each other. And I was like, oh, that's where
Speaker 2: this comes from. It's it's something called Jubilee TV. And
Speaker 2: I clicked on it and it was like dating. It's
Speaker 2: a YouTube channel but they just have on this So
Speaker 2: that's as far. That's as close as I got to originals.
Speaker 2: I was impressed by the depth of it if I
Speaker 2: liked the particular podcasters, like there was one there was
Speaker 2: like these two guys in a gal they were yapping
Speaker 2: in front of their mics, and I was like, who
Speaker 2: are these people? I think it's called Mythic, but I
Speaker 2: think it's called Mythic And I googled Mythic and it's
Speaker 2: like a popular podcast since twenty twelve, Like, oh right,
Speaker 2: you kidding me, They've been around that long. Who are
Speaker 2: these people. So I'm a little bit out of it
Speaker 2: on this, but I did not watch any two BE Originals.
Speaker 2: Did you actually watch any two BE Originals?
Speaker 3: Well, no, I didn't watch any. I didn't know that
Speaker 3: to Be had originals until we were doing this episode
Speaker 3: and I did some searching on their interface, and sure enough,
Speaker 3: there is a category. They have a category on there
Speaker 3: for to Be Originals, and it's quite long, shockingly long,
Speaker 3: all filled with things that looked frankly very bad. I mean,
Speaker 3: there wasn't one thing that look It looked a lot
Speaker 3: of things that looked like they previous and a previous
Speaker 3: life would have been in Red Box originals, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. That's the kind of material we're looking at.
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about a weekly talk show called
Speaker 3: The Other Football featuring Ron Gronkowski, a cartoon called The
Speaker 3: Freak Brothers, a WWE wrestling show called Evolve, a what
Speaker 3: looked kind of like an asylum mockbuster called Butch Cassidy
Speaker 3: and the Wild Bunch. They had two direct to video
Speaker 3: War of the World's I guess sequels or spinoffs or
Speaker 3: ripoffs called War of the World's Annihilation and also War
Speaker 3: of the World's Extinction there was a show called Busted
Speaker 3: on Bodycam that I bet is fantastic. But I guess
Speaker 3: looking through this page did make me realize. Okay, I
Speaker 3: guess occasionally I do get pr emails about to be originals.
Speaker 3: I if they've released anything that has made any sort
Speaker 3: of an impact on broader popular culture, I don't know
Speaker 3: what that would be. I don't think that's happened yet.
Speaker 3: And the fact that you didn't even know that there
Speaker 3: were any and and you now, granted you probably should
Speaker 3: have read a little more carefully and known what you
Speaker 3: were looking for, but in looking around, you didn't come
Speaker 3: across anything. Now, these were all marked to be original.
Speaker 3: So the fact that you didn't find these on your own,
Speaker 3: no looking through, and you did look through this this
Speaker 3: service a lot. I think that says something also about
Speaker 3: the way that even though they have these things, they're
Speaker 3: kind of siloed off a little bit, and they there's.
Speaker 2: A degree of information overload. When you're on these things.
Speaker 2: It's like it's there's all these images come in your way.
Speaker 2: There's like, oh my god, independency Resurgence, I should watch
Speaker 2: that and like, wow, they have the killing too, holy smoke, right,
Speaker 2: So it's a lot.
Speaker 3: I looked to see, is there one of these that
Speaker 3: looks even remotely interesting that maybe it's worth giving it
Speaker 3: a shot, And I ultimately was like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to watch any of these. That's why I wound up
Speaker 3: watching Paths of Glory in Return of the Killer Tomatoes
Speaker 3: is like, I would much rather spend my time watching
Speaker 3: things like that. And so I looked through the selection
Speaker 3: and watched none, And I feel like that's it. That's
Speaker 3: its own damning review in and of itself. So what
Speaker 3: do you want to give these?
Speaker 2: I'll give it like, I'll give it a three. I'll
Speaker 2: give I'll give a three because I'm impressed by what
Speaker 2: I'm referring to. I guess I'm giving it three, but
Speaker 2: I should give it a zero. But I'm giving it
Speaker 2: a three because to me, all that weird stuff on
Speaker 2: the live section, that uh, that Jubilee TV thing, the
Speaker 2: dating stuff, like all of that axe men, the Bob
Speaker 2: Ross channel, I'm calling that originals because where the hell
Speaker 2: else am I going to see twenty four hours of
Speaker 2: Bob Ross. Now, let me ask you, Ron Grigkowski is
Speaker 2: the other football? What is the other football?
Speaker 3: I think it's soccer. I think it's more of their
Speaker 3: World Cup related material.
Speaker 2: Is he a soccer player? Ron gronkowk No, he's a
Speaker 2: football player. That's why he's the other football because he's.
Speaker 3: Talking about the other football meaning football meaning soccer.
Speaker 2: Why would they get him to do it? He's the
Speaker 2: worst guy to do it. Should get a soccer player
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 3: Well, he's kind of a you know, he's a celebrity
Speaker 3: and media personality.
Speaker 2: Now I disagree. I think that's a really dumb idea.
Speaker 2: And now I get a good idea. I said, That's
Speaker 2: why I just said what it was. I'm not a
Speaker 2: development executive at two B. What do you bring me
Speaker 2: on blast for? What's up? It's Rock and Jamus and
Speaker 2: we're both super excited for the World.
Speaker 4: Cup coming up and need a brush up on a
Speaker 4: soccer knowledge.
Speaker 2: So what score?
Speaker 3: You gave it a three?
Speaker 2: I give it a three.
Speaker 3: I'm giving it a one.
Speaker 2: Wow, good for you.
Speaker 3: Okay, Finally, the price? How much is it is it worth?
Speaker 3: The price? It's free? Now it's free. It's not great
Speaker 3: in terms of originals. The ads are not ideal, but
Speaker 3: you can't beat that price.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ads really suck. I mean, I could imagine
Speaker 2: what it was like watching a real movie like The
Speaker 2: Killing or Sorry of Pads of Glory. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I was watching Independence State two, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: Matt Singer, have you seen Independence States?
Speaker 3: I saw Independence Day Resurgence and yes, put a little
Speaker 3: respect on its title Independence Day Colon Resurgence. I saw
Speaker 3: it in the theater on opening night because they did
Speaker 3: not have breast screenings for that.
Speaker 2: It is it is. I knew it was going to
Speaker 2: be bad. Everybody everybody's it is truly horrible. I was
Speaker 2: not prepared for just how bad it is. It is
Speaker 2: actually so bad it's good. I actually recommend it and
Speaker 2: maybe one day we should cover it. No, it is
Speaker 2: u shockingly bad. Like laughing, I was all of what
Speaker 2: I wasn't treating. I was laughing. But those ads did
Speaker 2: annoy the f atemy. So I got to say. It's free.
Speaker 2: But at a certain point, it's like pay three ninety nine,
Speaker 2: Like if you're gonna watch like the good movies like
Speaker 2: Raging Bull is on there. If if you don't want
Speaker 2: to have a way to watch Raging Bull for free,
Speaker 2: maybe spend three ninety nine and rent it on Amazon
Speaker 2: or Apple for for Killer Tomatoes, watch it with the
Speaker 2: ads for independency resurgers. Watch it with the ads, but
Speaker 2: for something that you actually want to have a mature,
Speaker 2: cinematic encounter with, unless you're absolutely broke and you're in debt.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Maybe some of our listeners
Speaker 2: are in debt and and and should not even be
Speaker 2: you know, should be donating blood instead of listening to
Speaker 2: the show. But if you have a job and three
Speaker 2: ninety nine to spare, sometimes don't go to tub. So
Speaker 2: I'm of mixed feelings. It's free, but there is no
Speaker 2: free lunch. Nothing's free. You're getting these ads. The ads suck.
Speaker 2: You're hearing about Jardians and diabetes pills really loud all
Speaker 2: the time. So I'm gonna give it a seven. I
Speaker 2: give it a seven. It's seven. Look, maybe Sam is
Speaker 2: making a high face.
Speaker 3: Maybe our listeners, maybe our listeners are are they're listening
Speaker 3: while they're donating blood? Did you think about that? Look,
Speaker 3: you're you're right. I mean, it's not the way. It
Speaker 3: is not the way that Stanley and Kubrick intended you
Speaker 3: to watch Pads of Glory. But he didn't intend you
Speaker 3: to watch it on a television at all. So and
Speaker 3: I am of the generation as is Sam and Jordan
Speaker 3: that we we grew up watching things with ads. There was,
Speaker 3: you know, like yes, yes, we had HBO and movies
Speaker 3: would play on HBO without commercial interruption, and for a
Speaker 3: while they aired that way on AMC as well, but
Speaker 3: at a certain point AMC, which is where I watched
Speaker 3: a lot of movies growing up, and even PBS. I
Speaker 3: used to watch the first time I watched The Sting
Speaker 3: was on PBS, and every ten minutes I would be
Speaker 3: into there was it was a pledge drive for God's sake,
Speaker 3: and I have to sit through them. And I was
Speaker 3: enraptured by this movie, but I still had to sit
Speaker 3: through them yacking about tote pegs.
Speaker 2: So alp Roman, what did your money?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, So that's not saying that's I'm not necessarily defending
Speaker 3: the ads. All I'm saying is that I am kind
Speaker 3: of I'm sort of used to that at this point
Speaker 3: or in some way it's almost nostalgic to me to
Speaker 3: watch a movie with ads, and if they're not too obtrusive,
Speaker 3: and if they're not put in two haphazardly, it doesn't
Speaker 3: bother me that much, or if they're not so long
Speaker 3: some of these fast channels or services you go to
Speaker 3: put on an you know, when there's an AD break,
Speaker 3: it's three and a half minutes sometimes and that's too much.
Speaker 3: Thirty seconds, I can I can give you thirty seconds
Speaker 3: to sell me, you know, pills, blood pressure, pills. Three
Speaker 3: and a half minutes of ads, and a lot of
Speaker 3: times they don't have a lot of inventory, so you
Speaker 3: see the same ad three times. That drives me crazy
Speaker 3: that I can't stand. But that was not the experience
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 2: I know it to be. I know every potentially negative
Speaker 2: side effect of Jardians, so I can list of You
Speaker 2: might have chronic constipation if you're on Jardians, so you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, so the ads are not ideal, but I think,
Speaker 3: you know, as a small price to pay for some
Speaker 3: of we missed it. They have some good movies on
Speaker 3: you if you're willing to put up with the ads.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of Honestly, I walked out
Speaker 3: of this experience thinking Toby has more stuff than I realized,
Speaker 3: and I am gonna use it more in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So for the price you said seven, I'll give it
Speaker 3: an eight. I will give it an eight. And so
Speaker 3: Sam will always making faces ooh faces. We can't hear him,
Speaker 3: he's muted, but Sam's making ooh faces. So Sam, I
Speaker 3: think let's take a break.
Speaker 7: You don't even have to take a break. I got
Speaker 7: total talate it all up. I did it while you
Speaker 7: were you had.
Speaker 3: Enough talkers and toes to count this up. I did
Speaker 3: a break.
Speaker 7: Well, you threw in the point five, which of course
Speaker 7: complicated things. But remarkably, you guys came out almost exactly
Speaker 7: with the same number. Uh, you're Jordan. You came out
Speaker 7: at a total of thirty and Matt thirty point five.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 7: What we don't have is to we don't have the
Speaker 7: numbers that we compare it to where Netflix came out.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm going to look for it. I think I
Speaker 3: have it. Let me, I think I put it in
Speaker 3: the in our little channel. Here, hold on, I'm scrolling back.
Speaker 2: While you're it is. I have it.
Speaker 3: Here, I have it.
Speaker 2: I have it.
Speaker 3: Okay, once again, we're ready. We're really fast. You're ready.
Speaker 3: Here it is for our first So what when we
Speaker 3: did this for Netflix? Matt, that's me gave Netflix a
Speaker 3: twenty nine, meaning I gave two be a slightly better score. Wow,
Speaker 3: and Jordan gave a thirty three. So Jordan prefers Netflix
Speaker 3: to two BE according to.
Speaker 2: These, yeah, and I jamat I stand by that.
Speaker 3: So then it's then the system works exclamation point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that's our that's our state of streaming of two B.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's important to mention the listeners
Speaker 2: that though rare, Jardians can cause a dangerous build up
Speaker 2: of acid in the blood, even if your blood sugar
Speaker 2: is not extremely high. Symptoms include nausea, vomiting, stomach pain,
Speaker 2: and troubled breathing.
Speaker 3: The pill the Big Side. Now, normally we recommend another
Speaker 3: title that relates to our main review on the show
Speaker 3: this week, because we're talking all about to Be, who
Speaker 3: are just gonna recommend something on to Be in our
Speaker 3: boxers Rezig? All right, it's the recommendation segment. It's the
Speaker 3: rec sag Jordan, do you have something you want to
Speaker 3: recommend on two B besides ambient noise to fall asleep to?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna make it quick. I do want to
Speaker 2: give a shout out to to Be because two of
Speaker 2: my very recent rec seggs were available, What's Up Doc,
Speaker 2: which I mentioned a few weeks ago. I forget what
Speaker 2: that was connected to. Probably a romantic comedy. And The
Speaker 2: in Laws, which I adore, which we talked about last
Speaker 2: week with The Little Brother, because it's about the the
Speaker 2: you know, the the tightly wound Alan Arkin and the
Speaker 2: spasmodic Tasmanian Devil played by Peter Falk both to be films.
Speaker 2: I looked around and I almost recommended something just because
Speaker 2: it's a deep cut and I've never seen it. And
Speaker 2: I said, and you can't recommend a movie you've never seen,
Speaker 2: but I've never seen Roman Polanski's what you know about what?
Speaker 2: It was? A movie he made like in between movies.
Speaker 2: It's like a very weird thing in his catalog. And
Speaker 2: I've never seen it, and now I know it's on
Speaker 2: toob but I can't recommend it because I never saw it.
Speaker 2: But they did have one of my favorite sci fi
Speaker 2: psychedelic freak out movies ever man, and that is Altered States.
Speaker 2: Oh William hurt in a tank of saltwater, reverting to
Speaker 2: a primordial state, regressing, regressing into it. I'm eating I'm
Speaker 2: eating a goat. There is a line for the movie,
Speaker 2: I'm drinking goat's blood. I'm eating a goat. What a movie.
Speaker 3: These are not lines from the movie. These are things
Speaker 3: that Jordan texted me in the last week. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: we have to be honest here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Altered States is not a deep cut. I would
Speaker 2: imagine most people have heard of it or seen it.
Speaker 2: But if you, if by chance, you've never seen it,
Speaker 2: it's so goddamn good's It was came out in the eighties,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty, but it's really an early seventies kind of
Speaker 2: freak out movie. It's got Bob Balabanon A two, which
Speaker 2: is always worthwhile. It's William hurt Is, a PhD in
Speaker 2: I don't know, neurology or something, and he's experimenting with
Speaker 2: weird types of payote and whatnot and isolation tanks, which
Speaker 2: I know Joe Rogan is into. You go into a
Speaker 2: tank and your spirit and your body separate, and so
Speaker 2: he mixes it too. He crosses the streams, he takes
Speaker 2: the payote and goes in the tank and he becomes
Speaker 2: a wolfman basically, and I just love And it's Ken
Speaker 2: Russell directed it, and he's at his most in you know,
Speaker 2: Ken Russell is a pretty extravagant filmmaker, and when he's
Speaker 2: got a budget. He just throws it all up there
Speaker 2: on the screen. It's it's so good, and it's a
Speaker 2: New York Circle nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty. It's great,
Speaker 2: and it's over the top, and it's pre possible, and
Speaker 2: it kind of is a look at psychedelic culture a
Speaker 2: little bit. It's based on a book that Patti Chayevsky wrote,
Speaker 2: and I think that book was more about, you know,
Speaker 2: a true investigation into psychedelic research, and this is more
Speaker 2: just like look at the Crazy Lights Man. But I
Speaker 2: can't get enough of all the states. I've seen it
Speaker 2: many times. You love this movie too, right, that's it? Now?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. It's fine, bo, that's whatever. You
Speaker 3: don't like it, not really?
Speaker 2: No, oh to too wacky, too crazy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is what it is. You know, it's fine.
Speaker 2: Wow. Maybe it's just because I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought, I think it's really good.
Speaker 6: I'm an attending physician at the Peter bed Brigham Hospital
Speaker 6: and I'm not gonna listen to.
Speaker 2: Any more of your bum.
Speaker 3: When was the last time you watched it?
Speaker 2: Uh? Not that long ago. I saw it at the Metrograph.
Speaker 2: They had a double feature of Ken Russell, and I
Speaker 2: went and saw it there on thirty five and was
Speaker 2: just like, well, this is so deep. Man just turned
Speaker 2: into a goat. But it's so good. I I you know,
Speaker 2: it scratches my psychedelic itch. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 2: saw Pink Floyd the Wall when I was maybe too young,
Speaker 2: and I've been chasing that dragon ever since. Man, But
Speaker 2: I I respond to this type of filmmaking. You know,
Speaker 2: I like movies like Mandy and.
Speaker 3: You willingly go to dozens of fish concerts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go to fish conferences, you're gonna like
Speaker 2: the movie Altered. If you go to fish conscints, you've
Speaker 2: already seen Altered.
Speaker 3: Hell, if you start sets exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: Sam, do you like Altered States? Come on?
Speaker 7: Never seen seen it?
Speaker 2: Dragged into this? You've never seen it? Watch it?
Speaker 3: Don't watch it? On Toby? Do you watch it?
Speaker 7: My question was, should you watch Altered States? If you're
Speaker 7: taking the medication that that they spawned.
Speaker 3: Could he create an all state? Is that one of
Speaker 3: the side effects may turn you Side effects include turning
Speaker 3: you into a goat? All right, So my recommendation for
Speaker 3: two B besides pads of glory, we already talked about,
Speaker 3: and I guess Return of the Killer Tomatoes. But I
Speaker 3: was I one night when I was flipping around on there,
Speaker 3: I put something else on, and I also fell asleep,
Speaker 3: not watching patle Glory, not watching Return of the Killer Tomatoes.
Speaker 3: I was watching something that shall go unnamed, and I
Speaker 3: fell asleep, and when I woke up, TWOB was still
Speaker 3: playing on my computer. It had auto played through a
Speaker 3: bunch of titles. It kind of did a you know,
Speaker 3: like related title game of telephone where it took me
Speaker 3: to from one thing to the next to the next.
Speaker 3: And the thing that it wound up on was the
Speaker 3: thing I'm gonna recommend because it's actually one of my
Speaker 3: all time favorite TV shows, The Twilight Zone. The entire
Speaker 3: Twilight Zone is another show that you can stream in
Speaker 3: its totality on TOOB. And I'm going to imagine most
Speaker 3: people know what the towilet it Zone is, but it is,
Speaker 3: of course the classic fifties and sixties horror in sci
Speaker 3: fi anthology series created by and hosted by Rod Serling,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, it's been revived many times, but
Speaker 3: this is the original classic Twilight Zone that is on there,
Speaker 3: and the entire look that looked like the entire show
Speaker 3: is on there every episode if you wanted to do
Speaker 3: a binge. And you know, the nice part about an
Speaker 3: old TV show like this is the ads are not
Speaker 3: intrusive because they were built with ad breaks.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a really good point.
Speaker 3: And when I watched, I watched one episode that I've
Speaker 3: seen every episode of the Twilight Zone. It is one
Speaker 3: of my favorite shows. And I rewatched one and actually
Speaker 3: one of the ad breaks had no ads. It just
Speaker 3: went to dart, it went to black and it came
Speaker 3: right back up. So again, that's what I was talking
Speaker 3: about about the ads or not I think I watched.
Speaker 3: I had one ad break in an in a twenty
Speaker 3: eight minute episode, and good look if you're you know,
Speaker 3: there's so many famous episodes of the show, I don't
Speaker 3: need to recommend those. I'll throw out one less well
Speaker 3: known episode that I like, and that's the one I
Speaker 3: rewatched just to see does it look good on two
Speaker 3: b is it?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Did they cut it up? Or everything look great? The
Speaker 3: episode I rewatched is called the Silence episode twenty five
Speaker 3: of season two, written by Rod Serling, directed by Boris Segal,
Speaker 3: who went on to make the Omega Man with Charlton Heston.
Speaker 3: It's a fun episode because, unlike most Twilight Zones, where
Speaker 3: of course there's a there is a twist in this episode.
Speaker 3: There's always the almost always was a twist at the
Speaker 3: end of every Twilight Zone. But this one is not
Speaker 3: a supernatural or futuristic or sci fi episode basically at all.
Speaker 3: It is a It is a very sort of mundane
Speaker 3: by those standards episode. It is set entirely in like
Speaker 3: this snooty gentleman's club where this guy won't shut up.
Speaker 3: One of the members is very talkative talk talk talk talk, talk,
Speaker 3: talk talk, and one of the other members hates him
Speaker 3: and is sick of listening to him, and so he
Speaker 3: offers him a a bet. If the loudmouth will shut
Speaker 3: up for one whole year, he will pay him five
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars, which that's a lot of money now,
Speaker 3: but this is nineteen sixty one we're talking about, so
Speaker 3: it's a lot of money. And so in twenty eight
Speaker 3: minutes you watch the wager develop. You see this guy. Now,
Speaker 3: to make sure he doesn't cheat, he has to live
Speaker 3: for a year, and this to me seems much harder
Speaker 3: than keeping quiet. He has to live inside a glass
Speaker 3: zoo enclosure basically inside the gentleman's club, the club, the
Speaker 3: private club, a club for gentlemen, not a strip club.
Speaker 2: Guys in like the lure roles with a big fireplace and.
Speaker 3: Yes exactly men with balding men smoking cigars in front
Speaker 3: of fireplaces and talking about their stock portfolios. So he
Speaker 3: has to live inside a zoo enclosure inside the club
Speaker 3: for a year. And it has not one, but two
Speaker 3: very clever twists, and it has, you know, for an
Speaker 3: old TV show. The Twilight Zone, of course, except for
Speaker 3: a handful of episodes, was shot on film, often by
Speaker 3: up and coming directors who went on to do great things.
Speaker 3: And it has some really lovely camera work, some wonderful
Speaker 3: close ups. There's close ups of ears twitching as they
Speaker 3: listen to horrible motormouth guy talking. There are close ups
Speaker 3: on mouths moving. There are interesting angles on like notepads.
Speaker 3: The guy can only communicate by writing on notepads, all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of great
Speaker 3: Twilight Zones. That's just one I thought I would throw
Speaker 3: out that probably the listeners have not seen that I enjoy.
Speaker 3: But again, you can watch the entire series. It is
Speaker 3: streaming on on to B.
Speaker 4: You will perhaps withstand the pressures for three or four weeks,
Speaker 4: maybe a couple of months, and then you will succumb.
Speaker 4: That's again. In the meantime, I will derive several months
Speaker 4: of exquisite silence.
Speaker 2: I love the Twilet Zone. Of course, I love the
Speaker 2: Twilight Zone. I have not seen every episode to wit,
Speaker 2: I have not seen the silence. I just googled. There
Speaker 2: are one hundred and fifty six episodes at Twilight Zone,
Speaker 2: and I don't know how many I've seen, but I
Speaker 2: certainly have not seen all one fifty six.
Speaker 3: A few years ago, I went and watched all the one.
Speaker 3: I think it was streaming on either Netflix or some
Speaker 3: other service, and I watched every single one, and I
Speaker 3: actually ranked every single one on screen crush. The article
Speaker 3: is still up on screen crush dot com, and so
Speaker 3: good for you. You can use that as your kind
Speaker 3: of guide. You know, a lot of the famous ones
Speaker 3: are at the top of the list. There's a reason
Speaker 3: that you know. You know, Time Enough at Last is
Speaker 3: a famous episode of the Twilight Zone, and to serve
Speaker 3: man as a famous episode, but there are because there's
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty of them. They're not all great,
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of really good ones. And so
Speaker 3: even in like the time fifty of that list, you're
Speaker 3: gonna find a lot of great TV that you could watch.
Speaker 2: So I just want to let the listeners know that
Speaker 2: it is for free on two B, it is for
Speaker 2: free on Pluto, and it might be interesting to see
Speaker 2: where their ad breaks are different and if they are compared,
Speaker 2: if they're advertising different diabetes drugs on that one, and
Speaker 2: I will say it is if you want no ads,
Speaker 2: you can watch all five seasons of the Twilight Zone
Speaker 2: on Paramount Plus, Paramount Paramount Plus.
Speaker 3: Or Paramount plus plus. If you pay for Basic Paramount Plus,
Speaker 3: you still get ads.
Speaker 9: So no, really, yes, yes, yes, oh god, so you
Speaker 9: have to pay for para.
Speaker 3: It's not called Paramount plus plus. But I think from
Speaker 3: now on, anytime there's a service that has ads and
Speaker 3: no ads, we have to call the no ad version
Speaker 3: plus plus. Let's get to our personalized recommendation. Are you
Speaker 3: ready to this? One? I think comes from the film
Speaker 3: Spotting discord, where if you are a member of the
Speaker 3: film Spotting Patreon, you can access this discord. We have
Speaker 3: our own channel over there where we're hanging out or
Speaker 3: we're shooting the breeze, we're talking. I know.
Speaker 2: I apologize to the listeners. I have never known.
Speaker 3: It's good we can make fun of you because you're
Speaker 3: not in there. We get to make fun of you.
Speaker 2: When we hang up. I'm gonna ask Sam to send
Speaker 2: me the password again because I haven't been in there.
Speaker 2: But the listener request comes this week from Thomas quiz
Speaker 2: Master Todd. Yes, and he says that he's looking for
Speaker 2: a hangout comedy, which is great, and I'm going, yeah,
Speaker 2: quiz Master Todd, I'm with you. A hangout Comedy's a
Speaker 2: great idea. But then I gotta give quiz Master Thomas
Speaker 2: Todd hats off. He says, I'm looking for a hangout comedy. Allah.
Speaker 2: Happy endings, Sure, And I don't know about you, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Sam, But I go, what
Speaker 2: the hell's happy endings? What is he talking about? And
Speaker 2: Happy Endings is a little remembered nineteen ninety eight film
Speaker 2: by Don Russ, director of the Opposite of Sex and Bounce,
Speaker 2: which starred Lisa Kudro, Steve Coogan, Bobby Canavale, Maggie gill
Speaker 2: A Hall, Laura Dern and the Great Tom Arnold and
Speaker 2: I never actually saw Happy Endings. I it sounds good.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see it, but I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if I saw it or not. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: But there it is. I know, you know, you know
Speaker 3: why I know it. Jordan tell me it coined. It
Speaker 3: was the inspiration for the coining of the term hyperlink cinema.
Speaker 3: That was the movie that a film critic for Film Comment,
Speaker 3: her name I haven't written down, Alyssa Quart was writing
Speaker 3: about this movie in Film Comment and created the coin
Speaker 3: that term hyperlink cinema, which is is a lot of
Speaker 3: the examples are not comedies, and they're not hangout comedies,
Speaker 3: which is sort of the problem I encountered here. But
Speaker 3: hyperlink cinema is like a movie about a scene or
Speaker 3: a time and a place where a bunch of people
Speaker 3: are like intersecting stories all set around either a place
Speaker 3: or like an idea, like like a god help us
Speaker 3: crash the car, the car trash racism solving movie. Crash
Speaker 3: is a hyperlink cinema film. Syriana is a is a
Speaker 3: hyperlint Traffic is a hyperlink cinema film.
Speaker 2: Yeah is is shortcuts with that COMMU absolutely shortcuts.
Speaker 3: Nashville even hyperlink. Those are classic examples. But anyway, that's
Speaker 3: why I know it is that it is the film
Speaker 3: that that maybe inspired is a bit strong, but it
Speaker 3: was the moment when that term, which is a useful term,
Speaker 3: was coined.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, FYI Sam corrected me, it's from
Speaker 2: two thousand and five and not yes, two thousand and five,
Speaker 2: And I love all those actors. I haven't seen it,
Speaker 2: but I was impressed that our listener would be like, hey,
Speaker 2: like happy Endings, Like that's a movie that everybody's conversing in,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like a something like Raise, a Lost Dark,
Speaker 2: The Godfather. Happy.
Speaker 3: One of those checks out for me. So what's your recommendation?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so a hangout comedy? I went big. I
Speaker 2: just just said, what's the first one that comes to mind?
Speaker 2: The first one that comes to mind is with Nail
Speaker 2: and I. It's the most hangout of all comedies. There's
Speaker 2: no plot. The plot is two guys with Nolan. I
Speaker 2: is a British film for the late nineteen eighties. It
Speaker 2: stars Richard E. Grant. It catapulted him into Richard Y
Speaker 2: Grant dumb. It's the most Richardy Grant movie ever made.
Speaker 2: He plays with Noel. He's a wacky wanna be actor
Speaker 2: in sixties Britain. And somebody else played Eye. I don't
Speaker 2: even remember that actor's name. And somebody else played the
Speaker 2: gay uncle. And the movie is about nothing. It's about
Speaker 2: two guys who are broke in London. They're out of
Speaker 2: work actors, and they're so broke. They're depressed about their apartment.
Speaker 2: They say, hey, we want to go for a weekend
Speaker 2: in the country. Richardy Grant's uncle has a country house.
Speaker 2: They say, can we stay there for a while. He
Speaker 2: says okay. They go there. There's no heat, the water
Speaker 2: doesn't work, it's raining, they're caveetching. They stay drunk. Then
Speaker 2: they go back to London and something happens in the
Speaker 2: movie ends, and that's it. But it is a cult classic.
Speaker 2: And when you went for me anyhow, i'd heard about
Speaker 2: the movie before I saw it. You gotta see with Nilan,
Speaker 2: I you gotta see with Noia. It's incredible, And I
Speaker 2: did watch it on VHS. I rented it, and I
Speaker 2: will say that I was a little bit unimpressed because
Speaker 2: I had not been prepared for the fact that there's
Speaker 2: virtually no story. It's all character riffing, it's all hanging
Speaker 2: out with those people, and I was like, what was
Speaker 2: this movie? And then it lingered and I saw it
Speaker 2: a second time and I'm like, this is a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: Same thing for me with Harold and Maud. First time
Speaker 2: I saw Harold and Maud and I'm like, what the
Speaker 2: hell's going on here? And then I realized that it
Speaker 2: was actually quite good. So the thing about with Nila
Speaker 2: and I is it's all about Richard Y Grant. It's
Speaker 2: based on this guy's memoirs and the guy who directed
Speaker 2: it and wrote it. He originally was an actor in
Speaker 2: the late sixties. He was in some of the Zephyrrelli films,
Speaker 2: a British actor and his name, I should probably say
Speaker 2: his name Bruce Robinson, I think. If it's not correct,
Speaker 2: Samuel correct me, and it is Bruce Robinson.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So, and he never did anything as good. He made
Speaker 2: another movie with Richardie Grant called How to Get Ahead
Speaker 2: in Advertising, which is kind of a sci fi premise,
Speaker 2: and then he this is it, this is this is
Speaker 2: this is his the movie from his heart And how
Speaker 2: do you even get into talking Richardie Grant is just
Speaker 2: like drunk all the time and flamboyant, and he's a
Speaker 2: want to be actor and here everything is oh blah blah.
Speaker 2: I mean, the most famous line is they go into
Speaker 2: a little, a little t shop in the middle of
Speaker 2: rural Britain. All these old Grannis are in there and
Speaker 2: they're drunk and they're like, sir, you must leave, and
Speaker 2: he's like, we shall stay. We demand wine. We shall
Speaker 2: have the finest wines known to humanity. We want them here,
Speaker 2: and we want them now.
Speaker 4: We want the.
Speaker 7: Finest wines available to humanity. We want them here and
Speaker 7: we want them now.
Speaker 2: Miss Blenda has it. There are no real punchlines in
Speaker 2: the movie, but there's like everything is quotable. So it's
Speaker 2: just so funny. And there have been times in my
Speaker 2: life when I've said, when I've been in a restaurant
Speaker 2: and I whip out, we shall have the finest lines
Speaker 2: that most of humanity, and people get the joke.
Speaker 3: It's very funny, it is, and everyone thinks I'm really
Speaker 3: funny when I did it.
Speaker 2: Every love.
Speaker 4: Best.
Speaker 2: He's like Richardy Grant. The movie is a classic handmade
Speaker 2: films production. This is George Harrison's production company, who, of
Speaker 2: course George Harrison got into the movie business because he
Speaker 2: liked Monty Python and Monty Python was having trouble with
Speaker 2: their financing, and George Harrison said, I would like to
Speaker 2: see more Monty Python, and I am insanely rich. Here
Speaker 2: is a check, Monty Python, go make another movie. And
Speaker 2: then that movie was successful. I forgot. I think that
Speaker 2: was Life of Brian. I think it was after Holy Grail.
Speaker 3: I believe that's correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So he's like, oh, you're having trouble financing
Speaker 2: Life of Brian. I want to see it, you guys rule.
Speaker 2: And then Life of Brian was a financial success, and
Speaker 2: George Harrison's like, film film producing, this is easy. So
Speaker 2: he founded a company and many of his movie were successful,
Speaker 2: and he was involved. He wasn't just a silent partner.
Speaker 2: He was involved in Time Bandits. He was involved.
Speaker 3: Playing the sitar, he was playing guitar.
Speaker 2: He was involved in The Long Good Friday. He Handmade Films.
Speaker 2: Was one of the great independent film pressing companies out
Speaker 2: of Britain, and they made extremely British movies. That's what
Speaker 2: I like. They weren't because they didn't have to make
Speaker 2: a profit, so he didn't have to worry about being mainstream.
Speaker 2: He made the movies that he wanted to make, and
Speaker 2: one of them was this and it's probably maybe one
Speaker 2: of the best handmade films in the bunch. So if
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it, watch it, but watch it knowing
Speaker 2: it is the ultimate hangout movie. There truly is no plot.
Speaker 2: The plot is they hang out in London, they hang
Speaker 2: out up in the country in a cottage with no heat,
Speaker 2: and then they hang out a little bit in London again,
Speaker 2: and then next thing you know, it's been ninety eight minutes.
Speaker 2: It is time to go home. That's it. But it's great.
Speaker 2: I love it. You love it too, right, Matt Singer?
Speaker 3: Of course, sure, yes, yes, more than altered States. Let's
Speaker 3: let's put it that way. You want me to tell
Speaker 3: people where it's streaming, because I'm going to just guess.
Speaker 2: That you don't know to be no, Toby, that's the
Speaker 2: whole point.
Speaker 3: Is it on to b Okay, I didn't see.
Speaker 2: That's why I picked it, I hope so well.
Speaker 3: It's also it's also available on the Criterion Channel and
Speaker 3: HBO Max at the moment, so whether Jordan is correct
Speaker 3: or not, those are alternate options as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I goofed up. We were done with the Tub chapter.
Speaker 2: Now it's not on TV. I got confused, but it's
Speaker 2: on It's on HBO Max's it is.
Speaker 3: Available for streaming. You could also, I mean it is
Speaker 3: also you can get a physical copy. You could rent it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you want to stream it, it's on
Speaker 3: Criterion right now, and it's on HBO Max.
Speaker 2: And YouTube Television and and of course three as always,
Speaker 2: as always, three ninety nine on Amazon blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, unlike Jordan, I did not goof up. I
Speaker 3: made sure mine was streaming on to B and I
Speaker 3: was actually looking to see if I could find like
Speaker 3: one of these real hyperlink kind of movies, and there
Speaker 3: were some that one I felt was a little just
Speaker 3: too obvious, which was Slacker Richard Link Later Slacker definitely qualifies.
Speaker 3: That is available on tub and then Jim Jarmish's Coffee
Speaker 3: and Cigarettes is also on there. That's close. That's really
Speaker 3: more of an anthology film than a hyperlink film, because
Speaker 3: the stories are not really like crossing over anything. I
Speaker 3: don't love that movie, but if that's you know, again,
Speaker 3: that's very much a hangout movie. I mean, that really
Speaker 3: is very very close as well. That's also on TB.
Speaker 3: But the movie that I picked, I saw something that
Speaker 3: it's close enough and it's one of my favorite movies
Speaker 3: that I love to champion, So I'm gonna that's what
Speaker 3: I'm picking here. It is. I think of it as
Speaker 3: a hangout movie. I definitely has men and women hanging out,
Speaker 3: shooting the breeze, drinking, commiserating about their lives, their jobs,
Speaker 3: about getting older. It is a great comedy. It is
Speaker 3: a movie I to turn two for comfort, comic comfort.
Speaker 3: The older I get, the more I like it. It is
Speaker 3: the film Whipper trying to guess. I just oh, I.
Speaker 2: Would never have guessed.
Speaker 3: Now, I didn't think you would. It's Hooper, which is
Speaker 3: the Burt Reynolds vehicle directed by Hal Needham. This is
Speaker 3: their follow up to Smokey and the Bandit, which was
Speaker 3: also also had Burt Reynolds and Sally Field. All three
Speaker 3: of them redeemed for Hooper and how need Him and
Speaker 3: Bert Reynolds had an interesting kind of dynamic as filmmakers.
Speaker 3: They were friends. How need Him was Burt reynolds stunt
Speaker 3: double early in both of their careers. That's how they
Speaker 3: became friends. And then hell need Him as he got older,
Speaker 3: got into stunt coordinating, got into second unit directing. He
Speaker 3: wanted to direct movies, and Bert becomes a bigger and
Speaker 3: bigger star and he says, oh, well, let's make a movie.
Speaker 3: And that's how Smokey and the Bandit happened is that
Speaker 3: Hal Needham had the idea and Bert said, if you
Speaker 3: let my buddy Hall direct it, I'll be in it.
Speaker 3: And that's what happened. And the next movie they made
Speaker 3: after that was a huge hit. They got a bit
Speaker 3: of a blank check, you might say, to make something else,
Speaker 3: and they made Hooper, which was a much more personal
Speaker 3: film where Bert basically plays hal Needham, this kind of
Speaker 3: aging stunt man and stunt coordinator. He is working on
Speaker 3: a movie at the time where he's doubling a very
Speaker 3: famous actor, Jordan, do you know the actor who he's doubling.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I haven't seen it in a long time,
Speaker 2: so I don't remember.
Speaker 3: It is Adam West playing himself. Adam West, awesome, is
Speaker 3: the star of the movie. Bert is his double, and
Speaker 3: it's a big stunt filled movie, Hollywood movie. And while
Speaker 3: they're working on it, this new up and coming stunt
Speaker 3: man appears on the scene, played by Jan Michael Vincent,
Speaker 3: and the movie is them hanging out, getting drunk, riding horses,
Speaker 3: falling out of Building's typical guy stuff, you know. But
Speaker 3: then the two of them kind of get into like
Speaker 3: a frenemy rivalry where they each want to prove because
Speaker 3: this is a it's their stuntman, their macho there's competition.
Speaker 3: They want to be the best, and so this rivalry
Speaker 3: starts to build that leads to this epic stunt filled
Speaker 3: car chase sequence at the end of the movie, which
Speaker 3: if you haven't seen Hooper, the stunts throughout the movie
Speaker 3: are great, but the ending is really incredible, and you go,
Speaker 3: no one should have done this. This looks so dangerous.
Speaker 3: This was such a bad idea, but they pulled it
Speaker 3: off and the stunts are spectacular, and you would expect
Speaker 3: nothing less. It's a movie directed by a stunt man
Speaker 3: about these guys who were, you know, throughout Hollywood history
Speaker 3: up until today, basically are kind of you know, kept hidden,
Speaker 3: not valorized, their sacrifices, their work are not treated well. Thankfully.
Speaker 3: I think, is it next year or is it the
Speaker 3: year after, we are finally getting an Oscar for Best
Speaker 3: Stunt Design. So finally st stuntmen and stunt coordinators are
Speaker 3: going to start to get a little bit of credit
Speaker 3: awards recognition, which is great. But this movie is kind
Speaker 3: of like, you know, like shining a light on this
Speaker 3: world of stuntmen that was you know, just it was
Speaker 3: kind of just pushed to the side and ignored. And
Speaker 3: it's a funny movie. It's a breezy movie. There isn't
Speaker 3: a villain. There isn't really a plot beyond we're making
Speaker 3: a movie and we're hanging out. And Bert Reynolds is
Speaker 3: great in it. Obviously, he became more of a punchline
Speaker 3: later in his career. He was you know, mocked on SNL,
Speaker 3: Celebrity Jeopardy, and he made a lot of shlock. He
Speaker 3: would show up for a paycheck. But he's great in
Speaker 3: this movie. He is absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2: It's really good. And Sally Field is Calli.
Speaker 3: Field is great. They were in a real life couple
Speaker 3: at the time. They have great chemistry together on screen.
Speaker 3: And the thing that I really like about it, and
Speaker 3: the reason that I do like it more and more
Speaker 3: as I get older, is Bert was like forty two
Speaker 3: forty three ish when he made it, roughly around my age.
Speaker 3: I'm now a little older. But part of the movie
Speaker 3: is about getting older. He is the old guy on
Speaker 3: the scene now even though he's only forty two. He
Speaker 3: can't you know, he's got he's got scars and bandages,
Speaker 3: and there's a.
Speaker 2: Scene issues that's, yeah, I was worried about his back.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And there's a scene early in the movie where
Speaker 3: he's just looking at himself in the mirror, almost naked.
Speaker 3: He's got underwear on, I guess or whatever, and he's
Speaker 3: looking at himself and he's just so disgusted with himself.
Speaker 3: And he's Burt Reynolds, and he looks great, but but
Speaker 3: you know, when you're forty two, everything looks bad to you.
Speaker 3: And I really, I really love that about it. That
Speaker 3: it's that it's a movie about even a big, you know,
Speaker 3: ego maniacal movie star like Burt could like kind of
Speaker 3: let himself look a little flabby and a little old
Speaker 3: and a little sag.
Speaker 2: He wasn't concerned about being Yeah, there's a little there's
Speaker 2: a self deprecatingness to the movie that really serves it. Well.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's probably I mean, I would have to
Speaker 2: really look back at every Burt Reynolds movie, but maybe
Speaker 2: Deliverance is better, but it's a different kind of movie.
Speaker 2: I think show my favorite. It's my favorite Burt Reynolds
Speaker 2: move with laughs for sure. It is another ball run.
Speaker 2: It's better than Smoking the Band, the original Smoking in
Speaker 2: the bandit is great too.
Speaker 3: That's another movie that I watch a lot. I actually,
Speaker 3: you know, like I didn't. I was not a kid
Speaker 3: who was watching Burt Reynolds movies. He was just a
Speaker 3: little before my time to be like a kid growing
Speaker 3: up on those movies. But I can also Smoking the
Speaker 3: bandit is a movie I watch at least once a
Speaker 3: year that it just kind of chills. It's a great,
Speaker 3: chill out, fun movie. And this is one of those
Speaker 3: for me as well. I've watched it a bunch lately,
Speaker 3: and it's like when I can't think of what to watch,
Speaker 3: I put on I put on a little Hooper so
Speaker 3: and it is streaming on to.
Speaker 2: Be I don't believe I was going over fifty five,
Speaker 2: you were going fifty five backwards. Well that's not I
Speaker 2: guess the law is it unsafe backing? Silly law, It's
Speaker 2: still a law. Let's sum up the rec seg real quick,
Speaker 2: because we got to get to our game. The rec
Speaker 2: segs that are available on two B. I picked the
Speaker 2: Ken Russell Psychedelic Freak Out Altered States. Matt Singer cut
Speaker 2: picked the entire five seas of Twilight Zone, specifically watching
Speaker 2: the episode of the Silence from SEM two, and then
Speaker 2: for our hangout comedies, I picked the British film with Nol,
Speaker 2: which is spelled with nail like a hammer and nail,
Speaker 2: but it's pronounced with nol withnel and I from eighty seven,
Speaker 2: and Matt Singer picked nineteen seventy eight Hooper, directed by
Speaker 2: Hal Needham. And that's the Rex sag. Do you want
Speaker 2: to say rexseg real quick? You want to shout out?
Speaker 3: That's all right, I said it. I just need to
Speaker 3: say it once. That's okay. We don't need to run
Speaker 3: it into the ground.
Speaker 2: Well, then I think what we should run into is
Speaker 2: our game, because I'm eager to play Sam's new game.
Speaker 3: All right, Sam's here for our game segment. I stole
Speaker 3: his title and I used it in my intro to
Speaker 3: the episode. I already know what it's called to be
Speaker 3: or not to be, but I have no idea what
Speaker 3: we're going to be playing. What is to be or
Speaker 3: not to be? Sam, Well, it was funny.
Speaker 7: I talked about this briefly at the before we started recording.
Speaker 7: You know, I sort of was tinkering with it this morning,
Speaker 7: and tinkering is it while you as we're talking, I
Speaker 7: have to admit. So let's see how it goes. To
Speaker 7: be or not to be is the name of the game.
Speaker 7: But actually it's more like to be and not to be.
Speaker 7: These are these are films. These are questions about films
Speaker 7: that are and are not on the streaming service to
Speaker 7: be TV. So the catch here that I threw at
Speaker 7: you before we record it is we're gonna try something
Speaker 7: with bidding. All of the answers to these questions or
Speaker 7: these prompts have multiple, you know, four to ten potential answers.
Speaker 7: I originally was going to say, just name two quickly,
Speaker 7: buzz in name two. We're gonna try bidding where you
Speaker 7: guys will alternate giving a chance to bid how many
Speaker 7: answers you think you can give, and the other person
Speaker 7: will have a chance to outbid. And I think, how
Speaker 7: we're gonna try it here, We're just trying. We're flying
Speaker 7: by the seat of our pants here. If you make
Speaker 7: a bid and you fail to meet that bid, then
Speaker 7: the other person gets those points that you bid to say,
Speaker 7: You're like, I'm gonna get four, right, you only get three.
Speaker 7: The other person get gets those four points. That's just
Speaker 7: how we're gonna We're gonna try to do it, all right, Okay,
Speaker 7: and we'll just see how it goes. So I guess
Speaker 7: we'll jump into that.
Speaker 3: Are any questions, Let's just let's dive in.
Speaker 7: You one, I'll go a question.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll figure it out, all right, So.
Speaker 7: Matt, you won the last game I did, so I'm
Speaker 7: gonna give you the chance to make the first bid.
Speaker 7: But there's a seven okay question, I'm going hopefully this
Speaker 7: won't take forty minutes like last week's game. All right,
Speaker 7: here we go. There are several Best Picture winners on
Speaker 7: two B, from nineteen twenty seven's Wings which you mentioned
Speaker 7: to yes, twenty twenty two's Everything Everywhere, All at Once,
Speaker 7: I think, according to letterbox anyway, the most popular current
Speaker 7: title on two B. Some decades have several Best Picture winners,
Speaker 7: some have none. In the twenty tens, there are three
Speaker 7: Best Picture winners from the twenty tens, from the two thousands,
Speaker 7: zero on TWOBE the nineteen thirties all ten, all ten
Speaker 7: Best Picture winners. Maybe maybe some of the women in
Speaker 7: the public domain. I have no idea, but all ten.
Speaker 7: So for this question, we're going with the Best Picture
Speaker 7: winners from the nineteen sixties oh R to B, meaning
Speaker 7: six are not to be. So I'm going to name
Speaker 7: the four that are, and then you're going to pick
Speaker 7: the six, and you're going to say up to six
Speaker 7: that you can keep.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So I have a very important question. Yes,
Speaker 2: these are the nineteen sixties. So is this nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: through sixty nine or sixty one through seven?
Speaker 7: Okay, this is a good question. I believe these are
Speaker 7: the films were released in nineteen sixty through nineteen sixty nine, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. This is the twenty first set.
Speaker 2: There is no use.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: I thought about this.
Speaker 7: I think we got it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty is the sixties, nineteen seventy is the seventies.
Speaker 2: I think I understand.
Speaker 7: I concur But but there's also the Oscar year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thats complicated as well.
Speaker 2: But these are released in sixty through sixty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I can do well. I think I can
Speaker 2: do well on them.
Speaker 3: Okay. So the.
Speaker 7: Actually in the chat the four that are ineligible because
Speaker 7: the four these are for to be. Okay, put them
Speaker 7: in the chat so you can see it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So these are the ones that are on to b.
Speaker 7: The Apartment West Side Story, all of our exclamation Point
Speaker 7: and Midnight Cowboy are to be. So there are six
Speaker 7: titles that are not to be.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna if this is allowed, I'm just gonna write
Speaker 3: down so I don't forget. I'm I'm jotting notes down
Speaker 3: of the ones that I know for sure. Okay, So
Speaker 3: you want me to bid, You want me to bid?
Speaker 7: How many can you get of the six?
Speaker 3: Well, I just very quickly I could think of two.
Speaker 3: So i'll bid too. If you can do more than that, Jordan,
Speaker 3: you go right ahead.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know that I can. Okay, a ship,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll let you do it, all right, Okay
Speaker 2: for you to the.
Speaker 3: Two that I have are let's hope I'm right in
Speaker 3: the Heat of the Night and Tom Jones. Those are
Speaker 3: the two that I that came to.
Speaker 7: Mind, our best picture winners in the nineteen sixties. Two
Speaker 7: points for Matt Okay. The others are Lawrence of Arabia,
Speaker 7: Big big big title of course, yeah, my fair Lady. Yeah,
Speaker 7: the Sound of Music. Sure, and movies probably the tough
Speaker 7: one Man for all seasons.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that movie.
Speaker 7: That one great Best Picture winner?
Speaker 2: What did it beat? Because that deserved.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm being quizzed. Who's asking?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: If you asked the next question and I'll look that up.
Speaker 2: So all right, oh you do that.
Speaker 7: Okay, we're on to number two. Okay, So Jordan, you
Speaker 7: get the first babies.
Speaker 2: So Matt one two points two points?
Speaker 7: He bid too, he got to Oh, okay, okay. Richard
Speaker 7: Link later there are six Richard link later films on
Speaker 7: to be you mentioned that both the slackers on there
Speaker 7: Blacker yeah, before sunrise before set okay. Link later, being
Speaker 7: the prolific filmmaker that he has made five films between
Speaker 7: nineteen ninety five before sunrise and two thousand and fours
Speaker 7: before sunset, all of which are not to be five.
Speaker 2: I can do some of these.
Speaker 7: Okay, So how many would you like to bid?
Speaker 2: Give me the years again?
Speaker 7: So it's to nineteen ninety five is before sunrise, two
Speaker 7: thousand and four is before sunset.
Speaker 2: I can do four of these moves.
Speaker 3: Go you go ahead, I could do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, you ready? Here we see it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, tape, yes, well, Waking Life correct, Scanner Darkly, Oh,
Speaker 6: I'm out?
Speaker 2: Or can I keep going with others? Sure?
Speaker 7: You need to get four? Right?
Speaker 2: Go? Okay? All right? The Newton Boys, Yes, yeah, we
Speaker 2: need one and I need one more Richard Link later
Speaker 2: before two thousand and five.
Speaker 7: Before two thousand and four, before twenty four nineteen, two.
Speaker 2: Thousand and five, and after two. I can do this
Speaker 2: before two thousand and four, but not Scannered dark that Philips,
Speaker 2: String Boys, uh and not. I think shit or out tried.
Speaker 7: School of Rock, Yes, School of Rock, that's the big one.
Speaker 7: The last one is Suburban Suburbia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the four.
Speaker 7: Got the four's four to two? Well done.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 3: I don't think that he got to make a mistake
Speaker 3: to keep going.
Speaker 2: I think I was the Union. Well, you're allowed to
Speaker 2: make a mistake.
Speaker 7: I think Scanner Darkly came out two thousand and five,
Speaker 7: maybe two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: That's like two thousand and six or seven.
Speaker 2: That's definitely outs.
Speaker 3: I knew that was outside the round. Here here are
Speaker 3: the movies that A Man for All Seasons beat quickly.
Speaker 3: Alphie the rush beat it. The Russians are coming. The
Speaker 3: Russians are coming.
Speaker 2: Deserve to beat it.
Speaker 3: The sand pebbles never saw it? Me neither, and who's
Speaker 3: a free Virginia.
Speaker 2: Wall Ooh, deserve to beat it. That's the correct winner.
Speaker 2: I love the three that i'd seen. I never saw
Speaker 2: sand pebbles. The Russians are coming is very funny. But
Speaker 2: a man for all seasons rules. What a movie?
Speaker 7: Okay? I like this betting so far, so good?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 7: Number three nineties Leonardo DiCaprio. Ah, snap, there are five
Speaker 7: DiCaprio starring films on to be, all of them from
Speaker 7: the nineties.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: But Leo somehow appeared in twelve films in the nineties. Twelve.
Speaker 7: I am again going to share the the five that
Speaker 7: are to be in the chat, so you know, and
Speaker 7: that means there are seven more that are not to be.
Speaker 7: These are the ones I will read them critters.
Speaker 2: Three.
Speaker 7: Yeah, This Boy's Life, a little film called Titanic, the
Speaker 7: Man in the Iron Mask, and what he allen Celebrity
Speaker 7: all to be.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, you know our second thought, Jack, let's go,
Speaker 8: let go, just like just like a.
Speaker 2: I'd be.
Speaker 3: Goodbye, goodbye. I don't care if the door can hold
Speaker 3: us both up, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2: Seven nineties movies it was.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it might even be earlier. Actually no, it's
Speaker 3: I think it's ninety nine different.
Speaker 7: You get the first?
Speaker 3: I can? I can again. I'm just I'm I'm betting conservatively.
Speaker 3: What do I know? I can for sure name?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: I just thought of a third one. I think I
Speaker 3: hope he's in this movie. I'm gonna say three. So
Speaker 3: he just thought of a third that I think he's in.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna feel real stupid if he's not. But I can.
Speaker 3: I can think of three.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can think of three. I could think of three.
Speaker 2: But that's that's bit. I have to outbid him. Can
Speaker 2: I whip out a fourth Leo movie? Crud? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could do it.
Speaker 3: It's gonna keep naming movies now until he get I
Speaker 3: go for it.
Speaker 7: The clock, al, here we go.
Speaker 2: Here we go?
Speaker 7: The beach, no, two thousand, alright?
Speaker 2: Never remember?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Total eclipse, yes, total eclipse? Uh? The Basketball Diaries yes? Uh,
Speaker 2: the the one I just had in my head. Romeo
Speaker 2: plus Julie.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's three.
Speaker 2: But now I need but I but I had the
Speaker 2: beach and that's not it. I need another Leo movie.
Speaker 2: Oh crud, he's a handsome boy. He's in all those movies.
Speaker 9: Oh we gotta give him a time limit, this is
Speaker 9: too long? Or oh no, three, you don't have it?
Speaker 9: Two mask out?
Speaker 7: Okay, So I think I think by the rules I
Speaker 7: stated at the beginning, Matt gets those four points.
Speaker 3: Yes I can. There were two that I thought of
Speaker 3: that you didn't mention. Okay, go for it, right, Gilbert
Speaker 3: grape O nomination? And then is he in itf he's
Speaker 3: in this? I think I think he is. Is he
Speaker 3: in Marvin's room?
Speaker 7: Marvin's Room? That's correct. Let's you guys. I think the
Speaker 7: only two you didn't mention, the big one that you'll
Speaker 7: kick yourself for is Raimi's Quick in the Dead, also
Speaker 7: in I don't know if anybody remembers him in Poison
Speaker 7: ivy starring.
Speaker 2: Oh well, hops off to Matt for having more pocket.
Speaker 7: So you earned the points you stole from Jordan's six four.
Speaker 7: I think six.
Speaker 2: I never saw totally clips by the way, his total
Speaker 2: clips and even one total eclipse.
Speaker 7: That's he plays our French poet. Okay, we're moving on
Speaker 7: to question four. Master cinematographer Roger.
Speaker 2: Deakins love that guy.
Speaker 7: He's a sixteen time Oscar nominee, and there are sixteen
Speaker 7: Deacons shot films on to be, from nineteen eighty one's
Speaker 7: Walcott to twenty eleven's Rango, but nothing after twenty eleven.
Speaker 7: Only one of his Oscar nominated films is to Be.
Speaker 7: It's Fargo, which was just got a thirtieth anniversary review
Speaker 7: last week on Film Spotting On the Film Spotting on
Speaker 7: other Ship, Deakins was nominated four more times four Cohen
Speaker 7: director's movie directed movies. Oh boy, what are those four?
Speaker 7: You can bid up to four? I believe it is. Yeah,
Speaker 7: Jordan's turn to bid.
Speaker 2: The one Oscar nominated one that's already on to be
Speaker 2: is what Fargo?
Speaker 7: So he was he was Oscar. A total five Cohen's
Speaker 7: director movies. One of them is to Be. It is Fargo.
Speaker 7: There are four more. Oh what's your bid?
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know geez two?
Speaker 4: Two?
Speaker 2: Two? Yeah, right, I could.
Speaker 3: Can I quickly think of a third because I can
Speaker 3: think I know two?
Speaker 2: Also, okay, I know all the movies, but I don't
Speaker 2: know which for us exactly.
Speaker 7: That's right, trick, all right, go for it. Jordan's go ahead,
Speaker 7: you can tie it up with the two.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay. He was nominated for the Best Cinematography for
Speaker 2: No Country for Old Men.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 2: He was nominated for Best Cinematography four Oh boy, here
Speaker 2: it comes the man who wasn't there?
Speaker 7: Yes, two points.
Speaker 3: The other one I was going to guess, and maybe
Speaker 3: I guess I should have gone for it was Oh brother,
Speaker 3: where art? That was the other one that I was pretty.
Speaker 7: Also nominated for True Grit is last I think collaboration
Speaker 7: nominated Collaboration, True Grit.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I guess I should have been bold.
Speaker 7: Okay, Matt, this is right in your wheelhouse. It's almost fair.
Speaker 2: How many are on?
Speaker 7: This is Arnold? It's Arnold?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 7: Okay. There are ten Schwarzenegger movies on to be from
Speaker 7: nineteen seventies. I think this got referenced. Maybe Hercules and
Speaker 7: New York is Ontos to twenty nineteen is the movie
Speaker 7: I'd never heard of, Iron Mask, but maybe you bad movie,
Speaker 7: bad movie with Jackie Chan Among them, though, are Terminator two,
Speaker 7: Judgment Day nineteen ninety one, and Terminator three, Rise of
Speaker 7: the Machines, not the original Terminator.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Palms Talk to the Hend.
Speaker 7: So nineteen ninety one to two thousand and three, Schwarzenegger
Speaker 7: start in nine films between those two terminators ninety one
Speaker 7: to two thousand and three. Okay, only one of them
Speaker 7: is two B it's twenty twenty two's Collateral Damage, not
Speaker 7: a bad movie. So that means there are eight eight
Speaker 7: Schwartzenegger's starring films made between nineteen ninety one and two
Speaker 7: thousand and three that are not to be eight Matt,
Speaker 7: what is your bid?
Speaker 4: Go for eight? Man?
Speaker 3: Come on, I don't know if I can off the
Speaker 3: top of my head I can come up with eight,
Speaker 3: but I feel very confident I could least do six.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, let's do it, Jordan. You want to try to
Speaker 3: do more than that?
Speaker 2: I cannot do?
Speaker 3: So okay, so that starts in nineteen ninety one, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna type them, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: say them as I type them and think. So Batman
Speaker 3: and Robin correct the sixth day, Yes, Junior yas Saction Hero.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's four.
Speaker 2: End of Days.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's five. We need one more.
Speaker 3: I need one more true lies.
Speaker 7: That's six.
Speaker 2: So there's two more, two more erasers.
Speaker 3: And I'm just trying to think of what the other
Speaker 3: one would be. It's a comedy, give me, give me,
Speaker 3: it's a comedy. That's ninety's ear Oh, jingle all the way,
Speaker 3: Jingle the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Wow, it's suddenly twelve six.
Speaker 2: Jordan's are Trek?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: How many Star Trek cast members can you name?
Speaker 7: This is where we got into some trouble because my
Speaker 7: last question is not really a bidding one, because I
Speaker 7: came up with this last night before I came up
Speaker 7: with the bids. I don't even know based on the
Speaker 7: questions I have left if you could even get close
Speaker 7: to twelve Jordan. But I'll give you a shot here.
Speaker 7: See how this goes. It's okay, okay, number say Hans
Speaker 7: Zimmer Yeah, has composed the scores for something like two
Speaker 7: hundred movies, twenty nine of them. Twenty nine of them
Speaker 7: are on to be including consecutive Best Picture winners. Okay?
Speaker 7: Is that clear? Twenty nine are on to be, including
Speaker 7: two consecutive Best Picture winners. I'm just gonna so this
Speaker 7: question is for you, Jordan. You have a chance to
Speaker 7: answer it for the two points. That's how I'm gonna
Speaker 7: do this.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's fair for Pride for Pride.
Speaker 7: For Pride the first, the first, okay, the first earned
Speaker 7: Zimmer his first Oscar nomination. I know what it is, Okay,
Speaker 7: the first. So what I'm asking for and you'll get
Speaker 7: two points if you can get this. What are those
Speaker 7: two consecutive Best Picture winners? I have one more piece
Speaker 7: of information, but if you feel like you know it,
Speaker 7: go ahead.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's Driving Miss Daisy because I know
Speaker 2: that he did that okay score. It's like a very
Speaker 2: non Hans Zimmer score and it doesn't have like thundering
Speaker 2: drama that so Driving This Daisy is the is a
Speaker 2: Best Picture winner?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: So the question is is what won Best Picture either
Speaker 2: before or after driving Miss Days.
Speaker 7: That he did the score for correct I will tell
Speaker 7: you that he earned his first Oscar nomination for one
Speaker 7: of them, and he lost that Oscar to Dave Gruson
Speaker 7: for his score for the Milagro Beanfield War.
Speaker 2: Oh christ oh, okay, I happened. Okay, I think I
Speaker 2: know the answer. Okay, Driving Miss Daisy was eighty seven.
Speaker 2: Milagro Beanfield War I believe was eighty six. Hence the
Speaker 2: Oscar winner for eighty six was out of Africa.
Speaker 7: You're a little off.
Speaker 2: Your years are off.
Speaker 3: Driving Miss Daisy is ninety eighty nine, eighty nine. Okay,
Speaker 3: I knew he was too early. Maybe the awards were
Speaker 3: for nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: Oh, so I got it wrong. What's the answer? Or Matt,
Speaker 2: can you steal I?
Speaker 3: No, I don't, I don't. I'm not a Hans Zimmer.
Speaker 7: So interestingly, Hans Zimmer was not nominated for Driving Miss Daisy.
Speaker 3: So you were totally wrong.
Speaker 7: But he was, but well, but he did do the
Speaker 7: score for it. But he was nominated for the previous
Speaker 7: year's Best Picture, the nineteen eighty eight or the film
Speaker 7: that came out in nineteen eighty eight, which is is
Speaker 7: eighty eight rain Man, Rainman, rain Man. So we all
Speaker 7: learned something about Hans Zimmer here.
Speaker 2: So it is surprise that all of us, who know
Speaker 2: so many unimportant facts that our tingers fingertips know saying
Speaker 2: about rain Man.
Speaker 7: Well done. I think that's the game. I've got one more.
Speaker 7: You guys already kind of covered at those coolulated it
Speaker 7: wasn't yeah we we we he got it, And I
Speaker 7: think I think, yeah.
Speaker 2: I figured big losing three I've lost too. Can I
Speaker 2: just say out of Africa which is a movie that
Speaker 2: I really should rewatch because I haven't seen it in
Speaker 2: one hundred years. It did win the Best Original Score
Speaker 2: for who wrote the best Original score for Out of Africa?
Speaker 2: You tell us? This is Oh? You tell us John?
Speaker 2: It's John Barry. Yeah, yeah, And I would like to
Speaker 2: say that Out of Africa, a movie I haven't seen
Speaker 2: in twenty five years and a movie that probably will
Speaker 2: put me to sleep, although I should see it again,
Speaker 2: not has the best original score of all time. Like
Speaker 2: if you were going to rap the best original scores,
Speaker 2: nothing is as sweeping and majestic and lush and sam.
Speaker 2: If I were editing this week's film spotting a little,
Speaker 2: I would play us out with a little bit of
Speaker 2: the Out of Africa score, and then when we come
Speaker 2: back for the end, everybody will have a be weeping
Speaker 2: into their hankies because the music is so OPO.
Speaker 7: I know that I had the audio tape of Barry's
Speaker 7: score for Dances and Wolves, which is also very.
Speaker 2: Good, very good. The John Dunbar theme is almost as
Speaker 2: good as the Out of Africa theme. It really is beautiful. Well, folks,
Speaker 2: we did it. We This is the longest episode yet,
Speaker 2: but I'm having fun and I lost the game, so
Speaker 2: it's ten to four. I'm still I've still got some
Speaker 2: wiggle room, but I'm on a losing streak. I've lost
Speaker 2: two in a row. But now's the time on the
Speaker 2: show when we let listeners know what's coming new to streaming.
Speaker 2: And first up, these are theatrical releases that are newly
Speaker 2: available to rent or buy, so they're not you know,
Speaker 2: you gotta pay extra sometimes like fourteen ninety nine something
Speaker 2: like that. But new is this movie called The bread
Speaker 2: Winner by Nate Bargatzi. I don't know if that's how
Speaker 2: he pronounced. And this is supposed to be one of
Speaker 2: the worst movies of the year. People hate this movie.
Speaker 2: Our friend Matt Singer, our friend Bill Gbire the other
Speaker 2: day was just ranting and raving about how terrible this
Speaker 2: movie is. I'm almost curious to see it. Did you
Speaker 2: see The bread Winner?
Speaker 3: I didn't, but you're right. We were having conversations about
Speaker 3: like the worst movies of the year so far, and
Speaker 3: this was one that was thrown out there, and I
Speaker 3: was going, oh, I gotta, I gotta watch The bread Winner.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to spend fourteen ninety nine. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna wait a few more weeks until, like it's been
Speaker 2: zero zero now, other stuff that's coming theatrical release is
Speaker 2: coming to streaming. And this is not for rent or
Speaker 2: buy is God Is, which is supposed to be very,
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard the opposite thing about this movie, which
Speaker 3: is that it's quite interesting.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's directed and written by a woman the name
Speaker 2: of Alicia Harris. It's based on her own play, and
Speaker 2: it starts Carrie young Sterling k Brown and Janelle Monet.
Speaker 2: And it is on everybody's favorite streaming service, MGM Plus,
Speaker 2: which you know, more and more is actually becoming a
Speaker 2: viable service. I haven't really explored it yet, but everything
Speaker 2: on MGM Plus eventually comes to Prime Amazon Prime because
Speaker 2: Amazon owns MGM. So if you don't have MGM plus yet,
Speaker 2: you can give it a few more weeks. It'll wind
Speaker 2: up on Prime Video. That's God Is, God Is. And
Speaker 2: then another one, which I hear is pretty good called
Speaker 2: Mile and Kicks, which makes me think of the song
Speaker 2: Pumped Up Kicks, you know, a little ditty from the
Speaker 2: early two thousands. It's directed by a woman named Chandler
Speaker 2: Levac who did Roommates earlier. This year, which we discussed
Speaker 2: on SVU. I didn't love it that much, but I
Speaker 2: hear this one is better. A twenty two year old
Speaker 2: music critic moves to Montreal to write a book about
Speaker 2: Alanis Morris That's Jagged Little Pill. But her plans are
Speaker 2: complicated when she becomes romantically involved with two members of
Speaker 2: an indie band. And it's on Netflix. That sounds charming. Yes,
Speaker 2: so that's on Netflix now, mile End kicks. It did
Speaker 2: very well at festivals, and now we the non festival
Speaker 2: going public can ascertain for ourselves if it's any good, Matt,
Speaker 2: do you want to tell the listeners? What else is
Speaker 2: coming directly to streaming? Sure?
Speaker 3: Starting on Friday the seventeenth, we have They Fight starring
Speaker 3: Andre Holland and Wenel Pierce. They're training DC youth for
Speaker 3: a high stakes boxing tournament that will be available on Hulu.
Speaker 3: And then we also have heart Stopper Forever, an extension
Speaker 3: of the Netflix high school set heart Stoppers series about
Speaker 3: two teenage boys whose friendship turns into a romance. So
Speaker 3: this is like the the the Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan's
Speaker 3: Ghost War of teen boy romances. I guess it is
Speaker 3: the film continuation. Perhaps the conclusion I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 3: and that is also on Netflix. Now, we've been hearing
Speaker 3: feedback from listeners that, you know, they want to know
Speaker 3: what we're reviewing in advance so they can watch it
Speaker 3: before the conversation. That's very understandable. So we mentioned this
Speaker 3: title I think, last week, and we're gonna we're etching
Speaker 3: it into stone now. Next week on the show, we
Speaker 3: are going to discuss on Hulu a service. I don't
Speaker 3: think we've done a review of a title A main
Speaker 3: title on that.
Speaker 4: Movie.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that so I think that was?
Speaker 3: That was HBO Max, that was Hbox.
Speaker 2: This is Hulu.
Speaker 3: It's Redux Reducks. It is a sci fi film a
Speaker 3: woman traveling through parallel universes killing her daughter's murderer again
Speaker 3: and again. Great premise and it's like a family project,
Speaker 3: directed by brothers and starring is it their sister who
Speaker 3: stars it?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, So we love that.
Speaker 3: Hook and it sounds intriguing. That's gonna be the subject
Speaker 3: of next week's film spotting s for you, Redux Reducks
Speaker 3: on Hulu.
Speaker 2: Awesome. I'm looking forward to it. I'm gonna will myself
Speaker 2: to like that movie. I know it's gonna be good.
Speaker 2: So I want to thank the listeners for listening, and
Speaker 2: the listeners who wrote feedback. This is a long episode.
Speaker 2: If you made it this long milezl tuff to you.
Speaker 2: We have a great next week. We've already got the
Speaker 2: reeg for that one in the pipeline, but keep more coming.
Speaker 2: But the one for next week is gonna be great.
Speaker 2: And you know why I love it so much, Matt.
Speaker 2: You know why.
Speaker 3: I don't know why Jordan. I'm not inside that head
Speaker 3: of yours.
Speaker 2: The author of the email began his by complimenting me.
Speaker 2: That's why he's the best.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned to hear a compliment of Jordan. That's a
Speaker 3: hook that'll get the listeners subscribed.
Speaker 2: If you want to send us any feedback, not just
Speaker 2: a recommendation request, but just feedback in general, it's very
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Speaker 2: letterbox at Superpulse. You can find me on Blue Sky
Speaker 2: at j Hoffman and recently, our friend Matt Singer was
Speaker 2: on the very popular podcast called blank Check with Griffin
Speaker 2: Newman and David Simms, and wait, isn't their producer named Sam? Also,
Speaker 2: what's the producer's name?
Speaker 3: Ben Ben?
Speaker 2: Sam? Benlen Sam? Ben's a nice guy. I love that
Speaker 2: guy's sweetheart.
Speaker 3: You love him so much.
Speaker 2: You don't know his name, but he's for a minute,
Speaker 2: I forget. I know so many people, I can't remember everybody.
Speaker 2: And also, if I may be so bold, I have
Speaker 2: just launched a new podcast called the star Log Podcast
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Speaker 2: This week's episode is all about black holes, and we
Speaker 2: have a black hole physicist on really like a truth
Speaker 2: like he is the head of astrophysics at MIT. Came
Speaker 2: on My stupid show. Can you believe that? Really cool?
Speaker 3: Did you ask him about turning into a goat and
Speaker 3: what the songs?
Speaker 2: We did talk to him about black holes and he
Speaker 2: was very polite in telling me that I didn't know
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Speaker 3: How I want to tune in. Forget about Jordan Hoffmann
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Speaker 2: Thank you once again to Sam van Halgrin, the greatest
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Speaker 2: I'm Jordan Hoffman and I'm that singer.
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.