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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh whoa wow, it's Halloween. You gotta get it.

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Speaker 3: It is a.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 2: we are in a bye week officially tonight. Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 2: Bye weeks ND kicking off nine uh and uh one

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Speaker 2: of There's lots of stuff going on still around the league.

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Speaker 2: It's right in the middle of the season. We got

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Speaker 2: plenty of Steelers talk to get to here, plenty of

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Speaker 2: other NFL talk as well. We're just talking there as

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Speaker 2: the show started up. This is how we do this,

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Speaker 2: Jamison Williams. Do you see them else? Might be the

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Speaker 2: biggest moron plenty every.

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Speaker 4: Possible way you can get in trouble and get suspended

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Speaker 4: or whatever. I mean, getting injured is not his fault. No,

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, this guy can't stay on the field period.

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Speaker 4: It's bonkers.

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Speaker 2: It is crazy. What are you doing? So for those

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Speaker 2: of you don't know, he's already suspended for two games. Yes,

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Speaker 2: before it was a violation of the drug policy for

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Speaker 2: performance and performance enhancing ones. Right, He's already been suspended

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Speaker 2: for basically a season for gambling.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think he placed a bet in the facility. Yes,

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Speaker 4: which you're exactly not allowed to do it.

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Speaker 2: Says it on the wall when you walk into it.

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Speaker 2: And now this week and this past weekend, while on

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Speaker 2: suspension for the drug issue, yeah, the performance enhancing drugs,

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Speaker 2: he gets arrested with a registered gun in his car.

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Speaker 3: He's never gonna be on the field.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Like you talk about teams like in the wide receiver market,

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Speaker 4: Detroit Better, Yeah, a d end would make sense for them,

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Speaker 4: But counting on that guy is bonkers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to serve this two game suspension

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Speaker 2: for the for the violation of the substance Abuse policy

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Speaker 2: and our performance enhancing drugs, I should say, And he'll

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Speaker 3: That, yeah, yeah, I mean he might finish this season.

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Speaker 2: He'll finish this season, but he's going to be suspended

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Speaker 2: going into next year for the gun charge.

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Speaker 4: And they're not There's no way that the league's going

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Speaker 4: to be light on them, no, I mean, because you

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Speaker 4: just keep doing things, you know, right, at.

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Speaker 2: Some point you just call the guy into the Commissioner's office,

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Speaker 2: and and the commissioner sits him down and said, do

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Speaker 2: you like playing football? Are you? Are you into this

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Speaker 2: at all? Or is this are you trying to going

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Speaker 2: for like the full house of different ways? Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: I mean you're trying to get Yatzi here that you

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Speaker 2: can get them all. It's like Pokemons, he's got to

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Speaker 2: catch them all, all the suspensions you can get. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's just crazy. Also, the New York Jets today

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Speaker 2: place Alan Lazard wide receiver on the on I are

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Speaker 2: he'll be out at least the next four games. That

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Speaker 2: probably takes Mike Williams off the market, I would think,

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Speaker 2: or at least.

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Speaker 3: I would think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, however, let's go on this road real quick, because

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Speaker 4: I think the Jets, Dolphins, Bengals, and the Jets have

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Speaker 4: the benefit of playing tonight. Yes, I think if you

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Speaker 4: lose this week, your sellers, I mean they're all two

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Speaker 4: win teams. I know two was back, but I mean

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Speaker 4: that's quite the whole. I don't even know what they

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Speaker 4: would sell. Yeah, but if I'm the Jets and I

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Speaker 4: lose tonight, it's done.

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Speaker 3: Give me whatever you want for Mike Williams.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean some of those type of

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Speaker 4: but you become sellers, I think for sure as a

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Speaker 4: two win team after week nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and no, I don't think they'll be trading Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 2: players on rookie contracts, right, But you know, it just

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Speaker 2: could be another wide receiver that is off the market.

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Speaker 2: If they do happen to win tonight, they could look

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I could understand that, especially if you're

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Speaker 2: But for Miami's they're at Buffalo this weekend and they

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Speaker 4: They won't think this way too. But as as it

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Speaker 4: You know, like they have to put money in the bank.

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Speaker 4: Early in the season, there was no bank. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 4: doesn't look that hard to get to. No, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's not like the same. The Saints are

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Speaker 4: already a seller, even if Carr comes back to me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's how I would view it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think they're trading a Laveae for the

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Speaker 3: Agreed again, I would call.

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Speaker 4: But you know, they shouldn't be that shouldn't be the

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Speaker 4: type of player they're moving. But they have so many

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Speaker 4: contract problems. There are so many contract and cap issues

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Speaker 4: in New Orleans. Maybe just get picks for your next

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Speaker 3: I don't know you're.

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Speaker 2: Right about the situation in the AFC, because right now

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Speaker 3: That's not a massive speed bomb.

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Speaker 2: They're at Cleveland this week now, they have an easy schedule.

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Speaker 2: They do, they do, but much like the Bengals. How

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Speaker 2: about so the Bengals strength of victory is two to eight.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bengals are the fifteen seed.

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Speaker 2: They're nine now. They won last week? Oh okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or two weeks ago they're three in terrible break, they're

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Speaker 2: three and five, but they're one and three in conference.

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Speaker 2: Their strength of victory though is two to eight, so

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Speaker 2: they beat the bad teams, they losed all the good ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wow, two eight really low. Two to eight is

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry the Jets. The Jets are at two hundred.

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Speaker 2: They're an amazing team to because they're talented. They've only

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Speaker 2: beaten so are the Bengals. These are two teams that really,

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Speaker 4: Don't think the Jets have as many holes as since

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Speaker 2: But if you can't beat good teams, all he can

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Speaker 2: beat is the Slappies, you're probably slappy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right again.

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Speaker 4: If all three of those teams to me are in

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Speaker 4: And if you just want to be kind, you know

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Speaker 4: past Halloween, I think you're open for business.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, I do think that you need

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Speaker 4: They very much seem like a team to me that

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Speaker 4: beats bad teams loses good teams. Yeah, and that makes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they're they're but for them, they've got

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Speaker 2: Denver's winning percent. They got five wins, the strength of

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Speaker 2: victory is two seventy five. Yeah, they beat the Slapias

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Speaker 2: and they lose to the good teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a lot of Slappies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I know the Steelers haven't played a very difficult schedule,

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Speaker 4: there's so many bad teams it's hard to avoid them. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But they have beaten some they you know, they beat Denver, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Their strength victory is much better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know some of these teams though. Yeah, Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: strength of victory is three to twenty six and they

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Well, I mean that's you're talking about the

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Speaker 4: winning percentage of the teams they the.

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Speaker 2: Winning percentage of the teams that you beat.

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Speaker 4: Because I originally said that, I'm like, boy, anything in

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Speaker 4: four teams that are thirty percent. Again, there's so many

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Speaker 2: Now that will change as the season goes on here

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Speaker 2: some I just wonder in the league, has the bad

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Speaker 4: Again, but I'm not even sure since he since he

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Speaker 3: I keep thinking they're a two win teams.

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Speaker 2: They're ninth and right now in the the conference standings

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Speaker 4: But I still think, like the Jets and Dolphins are

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Speaker 4: much better than the Titans and Panthers of the world.

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Speaker 2: But their record, but the reality right yeah, Miami's strength

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Speaker 2: of victory is two fifty Wow. Okay, they've only beaten

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Speaker 2: the bad to bad teams, you know it. So I

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Speaker 2: based on some of this stuff, and like, okay, right now,

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Speaker 2: the seventh seed in the in the AFC has four wins,

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Speaker 2: Like can we get to four? You know, can we

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Speaker 2: make up two games?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We can make up two games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess if you look at that way. I

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Speaker 4: mean like any other sport, like, oh we're two games back.

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Speaker 4: Oh we'll get it back. Yeahh So maybe there's fewer

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Speaker 4: sellers than you think. But boy, I mean we get

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Speaker 4: that packet every week. I mean, a two win team

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Speaker 4: this leesn't make it, never makes they never make it, no,

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Speaker 4: never ever. I Mean, the AFC looks so soft though.

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Speaker 4: I get to see the Jets, Dolphins, Bengals talking themselves

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Speaker 2: You because they were in it this year. They were

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Speaker 2: in it to win it this year. The Cowboys are

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Speaker 2: an example that in the NFC. They're the thirteenth seed

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Speaker 3: And there's so many good teams ahead of them get

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Speaker 4: Two, okay, I mean it's so much stronger. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: The whole North is strong. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How about this, Denver is ahead of bald to more

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Speaker 2: in the playoff standings in the AFC, they have a

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Speaker 2: they play each other this weekend. That you could build

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Speaker 2: that as a big game. But Denver's like a nine

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah what what what about the Colts?

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Speaker 2: They should have gone the Flacco last week and they

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if Houston's good.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that they're a dog tonight. Right, they're

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Speaker 2: an underdog at the six or two and six Jets

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Speaker 4: Now, I get that they don't have digs or NCO.

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Speaker 4: That affects things, and it's a short week on a

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Speaker 4: and they're not neither one of them. Both those teams

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Speaker 4: tonight I think are missing something. It's just not something's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Line, and then you look at this.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Lamar who was supposedly resting yesterday, Lamar

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Speaker 4: You said he has two ailments. Now, yeah, it's back

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Speaker 2: They play I believe that you said, right, they're playing Denver,

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a low, a tough game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they then play I think is it a short

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Speaker 3: So you definitely get him in the Bengal.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you rest him ever. No, I mean

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Speaker 4: they're they're not in that luxury. I mean, they're gonna

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Speaker 4: they don't. Every win is not life or death for them.

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Speaker 4: I mean they at least have something else.

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Speaker 2: But they can't afford to lose. I mean, do they

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Speaker 2: want to be wild Cards? Of course not No, but

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Speaker 2: you can't risk Lamar getting further hurt. They're also five

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Speaker 2: and three right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know when people have talked them previous years about

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, well, Mike talk they lost it. Like last

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Speaker 2: year they lose the game to the Cardinals in the

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Speaker 2: in the Patriots, Yes, that kept them from winning the division. Sure,

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Speaker 2: that's the Ravens right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, except there are two different times of the season.

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Speaker 4: It's not a bad two weeks. Yeah, I mean it was.

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Speaker 2: They lost to the Raiders at home. Yeah, and he can't.

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Speaker 2: Can't lose those games.

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Speaker 3: No, you can't, but everyone does.

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Speaker 2: Everybody does. That's just see it when it happens to

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Speaker 2: their team. But every nobody goes the Chiefs aren't going

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Speaker 2: to go seven or six to seventeen, and oh.

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Speaker 4: I should say no, We're going to look back at

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Speaker 2: You know it was for last year. They lost to

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Speaker 2: the Raiders last year. Yeah, they won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna lose the Panthers, but they're gonna lose

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Speaker 4: to somebody somebody.

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Speaker 3: Well, how'd you lose that one?

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Speaker 2: And that's the other. So some of the like if

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Speaker 2: you look at some of the point differentials m hm

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Speaker 3: It's like one point difference or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the difference for the teams who are very

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Speaker 2: some of the other teams played they played Carolina played Carolina. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody wins by twenty against.

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Speaker 4: Caro, big boost to your plus mind. Yeah, and any

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Speaker 4: metric you want to look at, of course. I mean

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Speaker 4: they're real. They're a distant thirty second. Yeah, like we

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Speaker 4: could have a conversation about who's thirty one, but they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Carolina has got a minus one forty seven their point

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Speaker 2: differentially minus two fifty. They're losing. That means they're losing

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Speaker 4: That's a normal Sunday for them. They have a win though, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they have a win, and one of those was not

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Speaker 4: a twenty point loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're almost averaging a any pointless. Who who

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Speaker 2: they beat? They beat the Raiders somebody terrible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was Dalton's first game, yes, which adds

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Speaker 4: up it was definitely their peak of the season.

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Speaker 2: Could they end up with like a minus two hundred

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Speaker 3: That has to be a record.

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Speaker 2: I mean, right now the Raiders are two and six,

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Speaker 2: but they're only minus sixty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been competitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Carolina's minus one forty seven, Like there's nobody within

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna trade off any piece they can. The

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Speaker 4: They at least play close games. Yeah, you know, muck

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Speaker 2: Minus one, minus one forty seven halfway through the season.

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Speaker 2: You're on pace to be minus three hundred for the season.

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Speaker 2: Are we gonna have the most coaching changes ever?

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Speaker 3: Too?

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Speaker 2: We might see coaching changes next week.

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Speaker 4: I mean Jacksonville, I'm not sure if two weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: the first of their two doubleheader in Europe, if that

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Speaker 4: would have been the States, I don't know that he

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Speaker 4: would have coached an Yeah, I don't think the Saints

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Speaker 2: They're at Philadelphia this week. You know that that's coming soon. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, because the thing is all these AFC teams, Cleveland, Cincy, Jets, Jags,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami.

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Speaker 2: I think Miami's probably safe. The problem with Jacksonville, Christian

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Speaker 2: Kirk was a guy that we were looking at, going

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Speaker 2: that's a guy would target because they're out of it. Well,

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Speaker 2: now he's hurt and Brian Thomas is hurt. They don't

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean teams

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Speaker 4: an excuse. But like the jag seat should have been

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Speaker 2: But yeah, just this will be a big week because

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Speaker 4: And we're basically at the midpoint, you know. So I

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Speaker 4: I mean, so many of them at least now, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so November fifth is the trade deadlines.

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Speaker 2: So that's next Tuesday and Tuesday, so you could see

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Speaker 2: like we're either in it or not and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: make that decision. But one of the things, like Barnwall

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Speaker 2: these teams need to sell these teams like this isn't baseball,

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Speaker 2: this isn't hockey, this isn't the NBA.

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Speaker 4: No, you don't just stick a right fielder in there

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Speaker 4: and no, you know, they never met anyone on his team,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice thing about Steelers by BA.

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Speaker 4: Now though, too, if you do add somebody, you got

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Speaker 4: a lot more time to get.

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Speaker 3: Them reaped up.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you made the trade now soon yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean if you make it next Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: As everybody else, right, yeah, it does take some The

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Speaker 4: I think, is my point. Yeah, I don't anyone's been

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Speaker 4: I mean those guys would get big stuff that have

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Speaker 2: Well that's one of the reasons why Kirk was interesting

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Speaker 4: But we actually had kind of a funny conversation on

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Speaker 4: the podcast today that it's so easy to forget what

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Speaker 4: a week to week league this is. So we watched

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Speaker 4: and lose by twenty better.

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Speaker 2: Take up you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like it's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the perception changes so quick with just one game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so I mean that's something to keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on this week as Steeler fans. You know

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Speaker 2: six or seven losses. Now you're not in it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah maybeah, And I know everyone's focused on receivers, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, for you know the Bengals, you

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Speaker 2: know Burrow's talking this week, well we probably need to

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Speaker 2: go seven and two down the stretch. Well if you

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Speaker 2: lose this weekend, yeah, now you need to go seven

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Speaker 2: and one one, right, Yeah, you're gonna go really gonna

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Speaker 2: go seven and one.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, probably not. Yeah, but seven teams

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Speaker 4: in the ANFC are going to the playoffs. Seven will

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Speaker 4: and if you're playing as well as anyone, you could

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Speaker 4: still win at all.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly, and you're listening to the Drive

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Speaker 3: Yes, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Theyve us some comments apparently speaking of being a video.

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Speaker 4: There were some things kicked around on Holliday or Halloween

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Speaker 4: that maybe put skeletons here or would switch jobs with

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Speaker 4: these two. Jabbronis over here, and they could fill in

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Speaker 4: and we could push the buttons, but we just played

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Speaker 4: it straight.

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Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the day, we're still

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Speaker 2: primarily a podcast, so most people can't see us, all right,

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Speaker 2: putting on a costume.

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Speaker 4: Majority of our shenanigans wouldn't have gone too far, right right.

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Speaker 2: And we're scary looking enough.

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Speaker 3: That's right, right, right right.

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Speaker 2: You're not supposed to laugh at He's still pretty and

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Speaker 2: young over there. Yeah, Matt. Pro Football Focus has put

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Speaker 2: out their mid season All Pro team. Oh I saw that.

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Speaker 2: I just glanced at it real quick. Let's go over

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Speaker 2: and get some I get some things on here that

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Speaker 2: I have some I want to quibble with. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: the quarterback is Lamar Jackson, no problem with that, No

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Speaker 2: problem with that running back.

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Speaker 3: Do they do runners up or anything like that?

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Speaker 2: They just list who would you runner up be? Golf?

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Speaker 3: I'm just say I think golf would be mine.

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Speaker 4: I also said they put out there who's as the best?

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Speaker 4: Lamar is not their highest ranked? Yes, it's actually Burrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I still think golf would be my two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mean's having a tremendous alan would be in the

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Speaker 2: conversation too. Yeah, less has been asked of him. Golf

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Speaker 2: in the month of October, had like twelve incompletions. I know, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Ball doesn't hit the ground at the ground. Alan doesn't

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Speaker 2: throw picks anymore though he has won this month.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but they would be the.

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Speaker 2: Three from Yah but it's uh running back Derrick Henry. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty seas Saquan's the only competitor. Yeah, And Saquan's

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Speaker 2: not catching the ball like he usually would no in

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Speaker 2: New York, So I think that's kind of the separated

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Speaker 2: like if he had the same rushing ritage that he

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Speaker 2: has now, but he has twenty five or thirty catches

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Speaker 2: like he normally does.

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Speaker 4: Which Henry wouldn't. Yeh mean, he never does. It's actually

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Speaker 4: why I regret it now. He's having an awesome year.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I shied away from Saquon because Hurts

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Speaker 4: doesn't throw it to a running back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know.

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Speaker 2: He also doesn't get the touchdown runs because they got.

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Speaker 3: A push push of him and right right right, that's mad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they're the top two wide receivers, Nico

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Speaker 2: Collins and Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 4: Nico would have clearly been one, but he's I think

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Speaker 4: he's missed too much time to put him on a

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Speaker 4: mid season Yeah, Like, if he comes back next week

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Speaker 4: and gives you twelve games, okay, he could be a

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Speaker 4: All Pro. But I don't know, if you missed fifty

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Speaker 4: percent of the time, you're deserved.

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 3: He's been unbelievable though.

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Speaker 2: I mean, realistically, Chris Godwoan would be the guy, but

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Speaker 2: now he's started to get down there. Now he's hurt,

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Speaker 2: so he I mean, there isn't a standout, no, I mean,

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Speaker 2: a bunch of guys who've been good, but there's been

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Speaker 2: some ups and downs.

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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of this is fantasy related for

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Speaker 4: these positions, but like it was Lamb, it was Jefferson,

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Speaker 4: Chase Tyreek, those were your early picks, and Jefferson's the

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Speaker 4: only one you'd say he's the one.

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Speaker 2: He's the one All Pro that's been consistently good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I agree. Uh, tight end, George Kittle, I think that's

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Speaker 2: pretty clear. He's been really really good. Any blocks, any blocks,

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Speaker 2: that's the difference. I Mean, so many people get caught

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Speaker 2: up in the tight end catches, like brock Bauers is

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Speaker 2: a tremendous receiving tight end. He would be the runner

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Speaker 2: up for me, though he didn't block anybody. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: even line up in you know, like the Niners do

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Speaker 2: a lot with. Kittle's the best all around tight end

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. I really think he's. I mean him

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Speaker 2: and Kelsey to me are almost equal players in terms

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Speaker 2: of career. I know Kelsey has the numbers, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: what Kittle's asked to do is more difficult. It's the

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Speaker 2: Heath Miller argument, right, And frankly, one of the best

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Speaker 2: football players I've ever seen is Rob Gronkowski. Yeah, for

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Speaker 2: that reason, because he's too seventy. But those guys were

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Speaker 2: asked to block a little. That that's answer. When Heath

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Speaker 2: Miller retired, he was like number ten all time in

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Speaker 2: tight end catches. Yeah, receptions for a tight end, but

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Speaker 2: he never got that kind of.

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Speaker 3: No no, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: But he was consistently right around sixty catches every year,

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Speaker 2: and he blocked and he's consistent in all phases too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But everybody fell in love with the Shannon Sharps and

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Speaker 2: the Tony Gonzalez who never blocked.

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Speaker 4: Anybody, which are great. Those are all tremendous great players.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kelsey is the perfect example. I would draft

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Speaker 4: Gronk over Kelsey every day of the week. And I

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Speaker 4: think he's just all around football player, better best tight

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Speaker 4: end ever easily.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was no answer the flex position, which

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Speaker 2: is kind of cheating Jamar Chase. Okay, Yeah, he hasn't

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Speaker 2: been the world beater though. No, I'm not sure who

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Speaker 2: i'd pick. Uh, the offensive line from left to right.

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Speaker 2: Tristan Wurf's at left tackle.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and that Bucks line I've been digging into well,

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Speaker 4: like as well as anyone in the league.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Yeah, the interior guys are all

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Speaker 2: three chiefs, Thony Humphrey, Tray Smith. I have a hard

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Speaker 2: time believing that.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of benefiting from one another too. I don't

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Speaker 4: have a problem with any one of those picks.

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Speaker 2: No, they're all good players on their own, but you

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Speaker 2: can't tell me that they're they're those All three of

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Speaker 2: them are the best guys regardless.

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Speaker 4: Like it sounds yeah, a little crazy. Yeah, Quenton Nelson's

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Speaker 4: been really really good this year. Yeah, I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: think who else would be in the conversation rag now,

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Speaker 4: but he missed a little time.

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Speaker 2: Linderbaum's not at that level yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think not as good.

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Speaker 2: He's slipping a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Well, powers always been an issue. He's not enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's not for every scheme anyways. I would have quent

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Speaker 4: and Nelson in there. P Suwel is the right tackle, okay.

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Speaker 4: I mean usually that's a fight between like him and

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Speaker 4: Lane Johnson. Yeah, Johnsons miss time.

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Speaker 2: You're out of luck defensively, your edge rushers, Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 2: t J. Watt. I think it still has to be Hutchinson. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it won't be for the year. It won't be for

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 4: You do it at the three quarter mark. No, he's

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Speaker 4: faced not enough that he's still the top of the.

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Speaker 3: League in sacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something with that into your defensive lineman. They take

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Speaker 2: two here, yes, because I think there's that was I

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Speaker 2: think there's three candidates, Cam Hayward, Dexter Lawrence Hm. I

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Speaker 2: would have Chris Jones as my third. Here's the thing

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Speaker 2: with Chris Jones. He does not play the run at all. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: not at all. He is a strictly a pass rusher

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Speaker 2: right right right, and no lineup outside the that he

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Speaker 2: lines up for every one, whereas Hayward and Lawrence are

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Speaker 2: better all around players in terms of that they do more,

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Speaker 2: they well, more well rounded. I should say agree Jones

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Speaker 2: is the best patch pass rusher of the group.

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Speaker 4: I think he's the most disruptive. Yeah, you know, if

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Speaker 4: it's third and eight, there's no one more than him,

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Speaker 4: you know. But also it's not like he can't play

607
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Speaker 4: the run. I mean, if it's a Super Bowl and

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Speaker 4: it's first and ten.

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Speaker 2: But I hold that against it. If you're if you

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Speaker 2: don't play the run, because all you want to do

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Speaker 2: is is rush the passer, I'm gonna hold that against you.

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Speaker 4: I do, especially when you're talking about elite vers elite. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's not him versus yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I mean we're talking about the best two

615
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Speaker 2: in the on the planet right now. That gives that

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Speaker 2: gives these two guys the edge over him.

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Speaker 4: I would pick those two as well, but I think

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Speaker 4: there's only three candidates, and part of it's just a

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Speaker 4: chief thing though, like Kelsey, you don't need to run

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Speaker 4: every route said either, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 4: we'll be okay, you know, save it for when we

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Speaker 4: need it and maybe.

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Speaker 2: We'll three pet linebacker gotta be Warner. They picked two

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Speaker 2: warners one who would your second be? Because this one's

625
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Speaker 2: a little surprising to me because this defense is awful.

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Speaker 4: Not Roqueuan, I mean I think he's going into this year.

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Speaker 4: I would have said he's the second best linebacker. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is an easy one, just to come up off.

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Speaker 3: The top of your head with either.

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Speaker 2: They went with Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I haven't studied every snap of Logal Wilson,

632
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Speaker 4: of course, but Bobby Wagner is having a really good year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There's some other guys out there that I mean,

634
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Speaker 2: even a guy like an E. J. Speed I know there.

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Speaker 4: He makes a lot of plays, It makes a lot

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Speaker 4: of players. Another name from a division on a bad team,

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Speaker 4: bad deal. Well, I don't know if they're a bad defense,

638
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Speaker 4: but a Wolf of Cora Moore has had a really

639
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Speaker 4: good year.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's not even that's not a bad defense.

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Speaker 4: There's a bad team. The Bengals are a bad defense,

643
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Speaker 4: and he's the leader.

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Speaker 2: He's the leader of the bad defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't put any Bengals on my Yeah, I'm sure

647
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Speaker 2: he grades well for them, But that's the weakest one

648
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Speaker 2: so far for sure. Uh, cornerbacks, Zion McCullum, Marlon Humphrey.

649
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Speaker 4: Wow, certain missed a little time, but he's still awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure their numbers are goofy. Your numbers are very

651
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Speaker 4: good point sense to me at all. They had Joey

652
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Speaker 4: Porter's their eighty ninth rated cornerback in the league going

653
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Speaker 4: into last week's game Insanity. Every one of the Ravens

654
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Speaker 4: cornerbacks was rated ahead of all the Steeler cornerbacks, and

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Speaker 4: Baltimore has the league's.

656
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Worst past the right. So it doesn't add up. It

657
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: doesn't add up. Now they did just bench the safety. Yeah,

658
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: Marcus Williams. Marcus Williams got Jo right. But he can't

659
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: be the only problem there. No, I think he's a

660
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: little bit of a scapegoat there.

661
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's more of the free the manka and I

662
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 4: don't think he's making up for anything nothing. Yeah, And

663
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: I think he's also the communicator, which their communication has

664
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: been been careful. I mean most of the problem. There's

665
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 4: no two corners i'd take ahead of Sauce and certain No.

666
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: Actually Stingley is right now there with us. I'm trying

667
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: to spit off the top of my head, but Stingley

668
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 4: would be a pro bow order for me.

669
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: This year, it's it's safety. Xavier McKinney. He leads the

670
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: league and great and Brian Branch good. Yeah, yep, I

671
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: think Branches in that. So this is funny.

672
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Like everyone remembers that draft, there were thirty one picks

673
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: in the first round. Steelers have picked number thirty two

674
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: and they took Joey Porter. Great, and of course we

675
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: were on the air for the draft.

676
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: We both loved Brian Branch and when asked, I know

677
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: the the hot pick was who would you take?

678
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: Here?

679
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: Is it Porter is a slam dunk? I'm like, I

680
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: would take Brian Branch. Now, I'm not saying I'd trade

681
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: Porter for Branch straight up.

682
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

683
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: But he's exactly who we thought he was going to be,

684
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: if not more like he should have never been a

685
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: second round He's great in the slot. He can actually

686
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: play safety as well. People argue with me, well, he

687
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: can only play in the slot. I don't know about that.

688
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: He's he's a pretty good safety as well. He's a

689
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: great safety. Last year he was a slot. This year

690
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: he's a safety, and he's one of the best in

691
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: the league. He's kind of made the Menca transition.

692
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

693
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: Minca played a lot in the Smart Tough. There's a

694
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: lot of similarities.

695
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he hasn't played deep middle as much as Maca,

696
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: but Mica doesn't have to play deep middle either, Right.

697
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: I would consider Hamilton, but I think those are the

698
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: pets two picks. Their flex position on defense is DJ reed,

699
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: you can't put I'm sorry, you can't put Macu. But

700
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: he's done nothing wrong, right, Like I get asked every day.

701
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: I'm sure you do too, Why is what happened to make?

702
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: He doesn't make any big plays. He's eighteen yards off

703
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: the ball?

704
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.

705
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: He made a big play the other night on a

706
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: third down pass where he broke it up. I mean, yeah,

707
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: he didn't get an interception on the play, but he

708
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: broke it up. He broke up the play that he

709
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: got fined for against the Raiders. Was it a Raiders?

710
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

711
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was a great play. And you know, you

712
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: just don't get credit for this. He just allows everyone.

713
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: I mean, Elliott's a really good player, but he would.

714
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: Not be doing what he was doing without makeup. Yeah,

715
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's benefit from him.

716
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: The specialists. I'm gonna save the one that I had

717
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: the biggest problem with for last. This one's really interesting.

718
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: The punt returner Felipe Franks with the Panthers. Now, well

719
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: he gets doesn't get any opportunity. Felipe Franks is a

720
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: former college quarterback, yeah, who then got shifted to tight

721
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: end in the NFL.

722
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't even know he returned.

723
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was a punt returner. I'm looking

724
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: at him, going, Felipe franc He's like two hundred and

725
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: fifty pounds. They don't make anybody punt, and they never

726
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: make anybody punt, but he's like two hundred and fifty pounds.

727
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: I think that's who we're talking about, right, Yeah, yeah,

728
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 4: I mean, like I've never seen a punt returner built

729
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: like that.

730
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: He's like six he's like Logan Thomas. Oh see what

731
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: they listened at? Six six two thirty four. Okay, Yeah,

732
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: he's like tight end, former quarterback. He's returning punts apparently.

733
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: Good for him. I mean, he was a really good athlete.

734
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how many he's returned, but enough for me,

735
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: and I'll take their word on that one that he's good.

736
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: If that's strange, I'm gonna have to go look at

737
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: that might be the biggest punt returner in NFL history.

738
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: I might have to dislike, you can't have ever been

739
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: a guy sixty six returning punts. No, no, I mean

740
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: that's weird.

741
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: But he's always been great with the ball in his hands.

742
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean like athletically, he's good with the

743
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: ball in his hand.

744
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith had him in Atlanta.

745
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean you could convince me he would been kickoff returner.

746
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have made more sense.

747
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, he's like Anthony Richardson.

748
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: In fact, the kick returner is Khaliff Raymond with the Lions,

749
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: who he is a little dude.

750
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a little dude. He's on typical kickoff returner.

751
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: But I can't believe it's not the guy from the Cowboys.

752
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: He's been great too.

753
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but Raymond just recently had a couple

754
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: big reis was a punt return was it?

755
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. I don't have a comment on

756
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: any of those.

757
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: I mean, shock Kicker is one that I can kind

758
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: of comment on, but the other ones, I don't know.

759
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: The punters. Aj Cole with the Raiders, he's always one

760
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: of the best yeah, he's good. The kicker Brandon Aubrey.

761
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: I'd say Aubrey's the only one i'd consider over. Here's

762
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: the thing, but his numbers aren't as good.

763
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: So if you look at Pro football focuses grades on

764
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: kick graide kickers, this this is what I don't know,

765
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: and this is why this is baffling to me. They

766
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: have Brandon Aubrey on field goals and extra points graded

767
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: at ninety four point six. Okay, then it's Ky Fairbairn

768
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: at ninety two point five. Chad Ryland with the Cardinals

769
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: is ninety point nine, Chris bos wells at ninety point four.

770
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: He's missed one flip and kick all year long, every time,

771
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: and it was sixty two yards.

772
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: Every time he swings his leg, it goes through the uprights.

773
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Like, how do you not get a ninety nine out

774
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: of a hunt? You have to hit it perfectly down

775
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: the middle or you don't get a good grade.

776
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 4: On putting weather involved here, and like, I don't know

777
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 4: how they could possibly.

778
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

779
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: They have special teams coach that says his form's not good.

780
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: Who cares what it goes through with uprights?

781
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand how I don't understand how you au

782
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: grade kickers, and you if you want to grade there

783
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: kickoff now, I could kind of maybe get that that's

784
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: not even part of that's just.

785
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: Through the uprights.

786
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: I think Aubrey's probably the best kicker in the league

787
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: if it's not Boz So I had no problem with that.

788
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: But that's bizarro world.

789
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: Before the Steelers played the Cowboys, they both had one

790
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: miss each. Yeah, I remember, and I went back and

791
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: looked where Aubrey's was from because this was m for

792
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: sixty two. It was like fifty one yards, yeah, which

793
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: everyone misses.

794
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: O's here and there, Well.

795
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: Missed a sixty two yards, Right, he's got he's got

796
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: his knowe has a better resume. I don't understand that.

797
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: I am just at a loss.

798
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: I don't understand how you give grades for putting it

799
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: between the uprights, either yes or no.

800
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: Right, it's not a C plus or a.

801
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: Bibles right, No, we'll give him a B minus on

802
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: that one because it didn't go right.

803
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 3: Down the middle.

804
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: You would have a hard time convincing me that Chris

805
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: Boswell hasn't been the best kicker in the league right now. Agreed,

806
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: he's one. He's one. He's one that the AFC Special

807
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: Teams Player of the Month two months in a row.

808
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: He hit forty six points last month. He didn't miss

809
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: a kick.

810
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he's not the only one, but he's

811
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: on pace to make the most field goals in NFL history.

812
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other guys got with Washington yea, yeah, Cyber

813
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: a ton of points too. But he's missed two kicks. Yeah,

814
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: and he's nowhere in their in their top I'm looking here.

815
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 3: We missed a couple. You can't be in the top ten.

816
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Cybert's not even listed among their top twenty guys. Where

817
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: the heck is he at? He's not even listed here?

818
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: Oh there is. He's like number fifteen. He's missed two

819
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 2: kicks and he's gonna put the ball between the upgrade

820
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 2: seventy five point four.

821
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: What he do wrong?

822
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean if those two kicks were

823
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: from ten yards, who cares? There are guys on here

824
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: who have like three kicks all season, Like like Nick

825
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: Folk with the with the Titans has made like sixteen

826
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: or seventeen in a row, but he never kicks any

827
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: fifty yarders.

828
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: I'd say he's a vinitary guy. Yeah, Like he never

829
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 4: they never test them. Yeah right, I mean win me

830
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: this game from fifty eight. Yeah, I just don't understand it.

831
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: I again, it's another pro football focused grade that makes

832
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: absolutely no sense to me.

833
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: Corners I've always highly questioned, slash doubted. I didn't even

834
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: know there was a kicker grade.

835
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: I had no idea either, so I happened to look

836
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: at it this. I'm like, Wow, they great kickers. Punders.

837
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: I could understand returners. I can understand that there's some

838
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: formula that would make sense, not the one that I

839
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: could create.

840
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: But kickers is a yes, no business. It's not that difficult.

841
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: I'll go through the uprights or did it not right?

842
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: It's not even like balls and strikes, where you might

843
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: throw a ball on purpose, like you're never gonna miss

844
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: on purpose. You're never gonna you know, just hitting the

845
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: ganking it off the upright. Now, it doesn't miss kickoffs

846
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: count right.

847
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: I don't understand how the logic of that works at all,

848
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: not one bit. But I don't have a problem with

849
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: Aubrey being the one he's gonna win. I be like, boy,

850
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: that dude stands out as a great kick, But I

851
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 2: don't understand how his grade is ninety four point six

852
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: and Boswell's at ninety. Like he's been four point two

853
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 2: points better on their grading system than Boswell.

854
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 4: I don't understand how Boswell's not in ninety eight, right,

855
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he's done one thing wrong and it's the

856
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: hardest thing you can do.

857
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: He's like, we got what eight of nine from beyond

858
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: fifty yards? Like, what do you think the league wide

859
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: percentage on sixty two yards are? I bet it's real good? Yeah,

860
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean it's way under fifty by the way, justin

861
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: Tucker's grade, I bet he's really sixty nine point two.

862
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: How makes he missed so far? I don't think he

863
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: tries the sixties anymore. No, they don't even try. His

864
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: fifties are terrible. He's three for his last ten over

865
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: the last two seasons from fifty and beyond, just fifty

866
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: and beyond. Yeah, he might think he's missed four kicks. Yeah,

867
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: that sounds about right. Yeah, he's not the weapon that

868
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: he used to be now that could come into play

869
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: for them. He's not only is he declining, but the

870
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: level of kicking around the league is everybody else has

871
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: gotten better and he's gone the other way.

872
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: For Boss hems be getting better. Yeah, Tuckers, how many

873
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: years older than Boz.

874
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: None, He's thirty four point nine.

875
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: I know bos is older than you think.

876
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: Boswell is thirty three point six. So there's only it's

877
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: not that the league. It's about a year's difference. Yeah, yeah,

878
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: two years or so. It took Boswell a couple of

879
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: years to finally hook on.

880
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he came out of college.

881
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: His first season, real season was twenty fifteen.

882
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, but he's but it should probably be.

883
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: He's as good as anybody. He's better than everybody, but

884
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: better than most, right yeah, yeah, and plus fair Baron

885
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: and Coup.

886
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: I mean the kick indoors.

887
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: Kicking door does yeah, yeah, he does the kick indoors.

888
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: At least They're division has some elements.

889
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: But that's my three games, right.

890
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was the pro football focus all protein. Felipe

891
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Franks's returning punt. I need to go look up.

892
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 4: I gotta go pull that up. I gotta see what

893
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 4: it looks like. I have not studied this, No.

894
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 3: I haven't.

895
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: Panther Steelers don't play the Panthers, and the Panthers are

896
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: a tough watch.

897
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: Well, there's thirty two teams, and they each have three phases.

898
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 4: That would be my least phase to ever turn on

899
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: is the Panthers specialties their number ninety six, let alone

900
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 4: their punt return, let alone punt return.

901
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: There's three of them. He is Matt Williamson. I am

902
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on the

903
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with

904
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: more right after this.

905
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: In the least, He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

906
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

907
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold cass In on Steelers Nation Radio.

908
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the I'm Dannis Smith. You can't see

909
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: me on the podcast right now, but I have a

910
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: big wad in my mouth right now that I'm chewing

911
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: on here because I wanted to be Danny Smith. Everybody

912
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: wants to be Danish Smith right now. I don't blame him,

913
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: and he is flying high.

914
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 4: Brutal being a coach in this league though, like Boswell

915
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: missus one field goal, you're a terrible special teams coach.

916
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: If you start doing things well that you walk on water,

917
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: and he should. He's been awesome. The team loves him.

918
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: He's very personable. He's tremendous at his job.

919
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: And they are on fire on Special teams right now.

920
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: They are on fire, and there's been a reason why.

921
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: I don't know how he talks with that much gum

922
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: in his mouth, but I assume he does.

923
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: During the game.

924
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: He does guard game. Yeah, I mean yell, screams and yells.

925
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

926
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

927
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Special teams coaches are different breed too, They always are.

928
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: I can remember going over before the Steelers built the

929
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: facility on the South Side where it's at now. They

930
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: had the fields were laid out over there, so.

931
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: They knew it was coming yeah, okay, yeah.

932
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: And they wanted to practice on grass, so they would

933
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: bust over to those fields. It's just an empty field

934
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: in the winter time.

935
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: Okay, it's cold, yeah yeah.

936
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: And the special teams coach at the time was the

937
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: oh god, I can't think of his name.

938
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: He became the.

939
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: Florida head coach. He was a head coach at Illinois

940
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: as well. I think of that time frame because that

941
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: was right before I got hired by Pimon. Wasn't Bobby April,

942
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: it was.

943
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: The facility was very new when I was working there.

944
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Anyways, Okay, Special Teams, he's out there in shorts and

945
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 2: a T shirt. It's twenty degrees and the winds blowing

946
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: across that area because there were no buildings at all.

947
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm sure it's windy and it's treason down there,

948
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 4: right yeah.

949
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: And he's out there for two hours, just running around

950
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: like a maniac. Special teams coaches are all maniacs, every

951
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: one of them.

952
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: I think anyone listening could point out a special team's

953
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: coach and an offensive line coach. Yes, they are, they're

954
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: they're big. They probably were alignment at some point. It's

955
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 4: such a technique driven world. Our technique. Our pido line

956
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 4: coach Tom Freeman was one of funniest humigs are met

957
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: and he's like, we're like mushrooms, you know. They just

958
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 4: keep us in the dark and they feed us poop,

959
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: you know. I mean that's just be quiet, you know,

960
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: go down there and do your thing. And they're all

961
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: burly and they all have like you walk in an

962
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 4: O line meeting room or the staff watching tape together,

963
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: the O line coach has something filthy on his body.

964
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: He's got rips in his shirt, he's got a chew

965
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: in that's dripping out of his mouth, and he's eating

966
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: a HOGI in the other hand, and they're just all

967
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: the same. Yeah, And that's the way it works, especially

968
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: in coach of the opposite.

969
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: They're energizer, bunny.

970
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: They are the under he's seventy years old.

971
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and noy'body like that when he's ninety.

972
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: Seventy years old and he still runs around like a

973
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: manny watching him at practice in Alona game, right, Yeah,

974
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: it's just crazy. And again every one of them have

975
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: been like that.

976
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: I mean it's a high energy position where linemen are

977
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: out there snap after snap. They don't check out Anthony Richardson,

978
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: you know, they play every snap and they have to

979
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: be consistent and technically sound and tough, where a special

980
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: teamer is, let's let my hair on fire and run

981
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: down the kick and then I might not do it

982
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 4: again for an hour.

983
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other thing about special teams coaches, Matt,

984
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: is that, unlike regular position coaches, they have to deal

985
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: with the whole roster. Yes, and they hold team meetings.

986
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: I mean they don't deal with quarterbacks right right, but

987
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 4: still everybody goes there. A lot of special teams coaches

988
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 4: go on to be strong head coaches because they can

989
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 4: talk to all phases. The other thing, and we've talked

990
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: about this several times. We get new listeners, they steal

991
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: starters from you. Sometimes, yes, they might cut your starting

992
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 4: wing or your starting gunner, you know, because a tight

993
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 4: end got hurt, or we need to pick a center

994
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: up off the Chiefs practice squad. So Danny, you lose.

995
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 4: We just cut one of your starters. Nobody cuts an

996
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: offensive or defensive starter. They could get hurt, yeah, but

997
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: they don't get cut, you know, Like that dude was

998
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: one of my starting eleven Sunday and now he's gone.

999
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: He's not even on the team.

1000
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you really.

1001
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: Have like five guys you can count on, and that's

1002
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: more than most teams. I can't believe. I can't remember

1003
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: these special teams, coach, and I'm trying to think of

1004
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: here that would have been looking it up twenty some

1005
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah. But anyways, Yeah, they're just a different breed.

1006
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: And you see, like when people would kind of trying

1007
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: to rip on I can't believe, you know, their special

1008
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: teams was, you know, how do they screw that up?

1009
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: I know for a fact, Danny Smith does as much homework,

1010
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: if not more, than anybody else. Any other coach on that.

1011
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: I mean, he gives these guys and he makes it

1012
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: for the entire team a tape on Tuesday. Did he

1013
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: calls his Saturday tape?

1014
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: Okay, that he calls it a Saturday.

1015
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: Tape because they go over it on Saturday. He gives

1016
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: it to them on Tuesday because he puts together.

1017
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: Learn this.

1018
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: This is your homework. This is your homework. Okay, this

1019
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: is a curriculum. This is what we're gonna talk about. Now.

1020
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: They work on those things over the course of the week,

1021
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: but the Saturday tape are the highlights of the opponent

1022
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: that he wants to really we got to get after this.

1023
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 4: People might not understand why still probably why we talk

1024
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 4: about Saturday. I assume that's like at the hotel.

1025
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: That's at the hotel they watch that tape right right.

1026
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, so this is the new kickblock I put in,

1027
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: you know, because they're guard next to the snapper is

1028
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: particularly weak or he turns his head to the inside

1029
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: or whatever some tendency he sees from the opponent. Yeah, yeah,

1030
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 4: that's crazy. Your homework and then Saturday will yeah, make

1031
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: sure you take take the test.

1032
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: Basically, so when guys make mistakes on the field. They

1033
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: don't know the rules or things of that nature's I've

1034
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: seen him coach this stuff up all week long. Yeah yeah,

1035
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: and do this all throughout training camp and the OTA sessions.

1036
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: They go over this stuff and over this stuff off

1037
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: and over this stuff. If a player makes a mistake

1038
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: on the field, if they have a penalty, that's not

1039
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: the fault of the special teams coach. Not usually right,

1040
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: he didn't tell that guy to block that guy in

1041
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: the back of course, of course, or hold that guy.

1042
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 4: The other thing that's really interesting to me about special

1043
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 4: teamers in the NFL is basically none of them did

1044
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: it in high school run unless they were a kick

1045
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: returner and they were awesome and were also a star

1046
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 4: receiver or whatever. A few of them did him in college,

1047
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 4: like I think a Benny Snell was a recent example.

1048
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: He was the best player on Kentucky's offense. Yeah, he

1049
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: was a good SEC running back. Ron Zook was the guy. Okay, yeah,

1050
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: he was there for a while, right, Yeah, And Snell

1051
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: gets the league and realize, I'm not the best running

1052
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: back on the Steelers.

1053
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: What am I going to do? I have to learn

1054
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: special teams.

1055
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, quarterbacks don't have to learn quarterback, you know, I mean,

1056
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: they get better at it or whatever.

1057
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: But you're an offensive player. You you never tackled anybody, right,

1058
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: And I'm sure he played linebacker in eighth grade or whatever,

1059
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, right, but these are NFL human beings. He's

1060
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: trying to get on there.

1061
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: He trying to track down quarter Oll Patterson.

1062
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: That was That's one of the things the Steelers talked

1063
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: about when they drafted James Connor because he had played

1064
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: some defense pit and he said, you know, Kevin, I

1065
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: can remember Kevin Kolber coming out saying, well, he's going

1066
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: to be the you know, basically you're taking as our

1067
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: backup to Levey on Bell. While he does that, he

1068
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: can also be a really good on special teams because

1069
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: this is the guy who's tackled. I remember that day,

1070
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: and that never happened because he got hurt his rookie year.

1071
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: I remember that day because when we do the draft live,

1072
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: coaches are always walking right past us and there's a

1073
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: bunch of us and neither one of us asked the question.

1074
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: But Mike Tomlin walks right past us and somebody that

1075
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: we were with and I don't even remember.

1076
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: Who it was.

1077
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't us.

1078
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: Oh did you take Connor because he's a good cancer

1079
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 4: story and he's next door. He's like, no, we don't

1080
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: care about that. Yeah, I mean, we want to win

1081
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: football games. I'm not trying to get PR points in Pittsburgh.

1082
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: You know, this isn't yesterday with Jim Wexel. With the

1083
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 4: in the thirties, they drafted Pittsburgh people, so people come

1084
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: to guys from du Cane. They're trying to beat Baltimore.

1085
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, right, absolutely. Anyways, let's get to a break here.

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Speaker 2: That's going to do it for hour number one of

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Speaker 2: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. Actually I'm Danny s Beth

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Speaker 2: Denny Speth Mo. Anyways, we're not going to do one

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Speaker 2: more minute. We're gonna get to a break. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.