1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Had a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields, 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: player for you see, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: in the stratgyre of normalcy here, all right, here we 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: are day one post draft, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker one, 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Bill's live and joined in studio by Bill's general manager 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, who's barely had a chance to exhale after 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: the close of the draft. I had Sunday, I guess, 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: but you're still picking up loose ends. I would think 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: you guys are kind of reviewing stuff and do you 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: that That brings me to my first question, Brandon, because 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: there is a review process to everything that went down 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: as well. Right, you guys will comb through the draft 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: and maybe kind of compare and contrast it to your board, 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: maybe not just not your picks, but everybody else's, right, 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: there is some element of review to that, right. Yeah, 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: we definitely we we tracked the board. We have the 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: magnets up there, but we were right in where they 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: go and we leave it up there for a little 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: bit just to look and see and you know it. 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: We definitely use history for positions and corner was obviously one. 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Going back to we spent you know, the last couple 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 1: of weeks and when we got into Corner conversations talking 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: about because we said, coming to this draft, first few rounds, 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: we'd like to get one because you get lower in there, 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: you're going how much can you count on them year one? 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: And we knew we wanted to have some of year one, 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: so we really started looking and kind of going through 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the names of the last three or four drafts where 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: these guys were going. We had done a similar thing 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: when I was in Carolina and when we're looking for 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: corners and one year we want them and they all 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: went and we're like, man, we might be grading them 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: too hard, like when every time we're getting up and 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: that a little bit last year we felt like that 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: was happening, like maybe we're grading them too hard or 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: but or people are just like receivers, they're just they're 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: scared they're not going to be there. So there's these 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: run on him. And I think you saw that again 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: at Corner not nine in the first two rounds for 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: a corner. Yeah, certainly in kaire Elam, you got a 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: guy that has every bit to look that he can 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: be there week one. Yeah, that and he when he 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: saw the when we saw that got a chance to 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: look at the embedded and saw the interview process when 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: he is like splattered like McDermot had to be going, 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: you know what, this is the guy right? How right? 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: I mean just raised his hand in the middle of 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the interview going you know it still just stop. You 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna take you. So just if you're there, 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: you're um, because it really does seem like he's got 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: that DNA said all the right, we're and maybe maybe 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: he's got a good agent that coached him up, but 54 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: it really seems genuine No, it's you know, you do 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: have to say, all right, is this is this authentic? 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Is this? Uh my fifteen minutes to make you think 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm like this, but I'm really like this it Listen, 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: those were true notes. Those were notes that he had 59 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: broken down of, you know, some receivers and stuff like 60 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: that at the SEC guys he was going against and 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: it was his legit. You know, it was all wrinkled 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: up and been hell and back. But that's who he is. 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: That's who the person is at Florida that matches the sources. 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: That's not a made up deal. And you can just 65 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: tell the more you're around. And we brought him for 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: a thirty visit. You know, his wiring wiring reminds me 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: a lot of tradevious just wants to be a sponge, 68 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: wants to be great. Obviously he's got the pedigree with 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: his dad and his uncle. But but you know what, 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: they're more and more kids are really impressive in some 71 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: of those you know, some other ones that did not 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: did not end up being Buffalo Bills in their own way, 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: that did some similar things that we were like, very 74 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: impressive night one. I know when we had you in 75 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: here last week, you hoped quarterbacks would go, knowing it 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: would push the other talent down the board. To you, 77 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: that didn't really happen. But the receiver runs started at eight, 78 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: and then there's three trades to take receivers between eleven 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and thirteen. And I know you've probably seen a lot 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: of things in your years of being in draft rooms, Brandon, 81 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: but I'm sitting there going, what the heck is going 82 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: to happen next? That it was like a frenzy for receivers. 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I know you told us you trade it up because 84 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: you only had really one player left with the first 85 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: round grade to take ki year. But what kind of 86 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: impact does it run like that on receiver have on 87 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: your thinking besides value at receivers? Gone, I mean that 88 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: was obvious, but how does that impact you're thinking as 89 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: it's coming down to you seeing that kind of activity? Yeah, 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean it continued with some trades of AJ Brown. Yeah, 91 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: so it was definitely people probably going Okay, maybe Philly said, hey, 92 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: if we like a receiver there. I'm assuming if we 93 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: like a receiver there, we may take them. But if not, 94 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: we're we got something in the works here with Tennessee, 95 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: we'll well we'll go to that plan. And then Baltimore 96 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: and Arizona with Hollywood Brown. So there was a lot 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: going on. You starts, maybe you wonder how many other 98 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: deals are about to pop in, but um, you know, 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: we were we had positions, you know, players on both 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. But it was it was definitely 101 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: getting cleaned out. My biggest concern was when these quarterbacks 102 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: were going to and finally at twenty we got one 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: and then and then at twenty one it was like, oh, 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: we're about to go back to corners. Kansas City trades 105 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: and takes mcduffy. Uh, we got we got one guy left. 106 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Let's let's be aggressive, and we couldn't. We couldn't work 107 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: it out with Green Bay, but we worked it out 108 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: with Baltimore. And there wasn't a surprise to you. See 109 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: how many nine Draft day trades in the route first round. 110 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems it's a ton Yea they were 111 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, it seems to be the way 112 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: to go. Uh. You know, people, you have some targets, 113 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: you have some things you want to come out with, 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: and I think, like anything, there were some guys that 115 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: people felt really could make an impact this year. And 116 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: so I think that's where you saw the aggressiveness in 117 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: round one going okay, if we don't do it, um 118 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: as we go down, I don't know how impactful this 119 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: player will be this year. Part of our thinking, even 120 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: with cornerback as well, where can we slide to and 121 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: say this player in round two can definitely, you know, 122 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: help us this year. I feel comfortable. I don't always 123 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: speak for Steve, but I feel comfortable saying this. So 124 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: for Steve and I, James Cook was probably our favorite 125 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: pick of the whole dang draft. So we're on the 126 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: show Friday afternoon before night two, and we're talking about like, hey, 127 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: what could be on the board for the bills, you know, this, 128 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: that and the other, and you know, fifty seven near 129 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: the bottom of round two. Though we didn't think there 130 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: was going to be any value for you guys at receiver, 131 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: because whoever didn't get one night one was going to 132 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: be taking him at the top of the round and 133 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: round two, and sure enough that happened. Another seven guys 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: go off before your original pick at fifty seven, and 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: so we were saying, well, how can you still diversify 136 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: the pass game? And we were like that cook looks 137 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: pretty good, and I mean, we didn't know what the 138 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: value was in your room or anybody else's, but we're like, wow, 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: that guy could still diversify a pass game for you 140 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: even though he's not listed as a receiver. And then 141 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: sure enough, you guys take him, and we're like, who 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, we're ooping it up in here, but 143 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: he can really diversify your pass game. Canny, like, yeah, 144 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: he's that's that's really what it is. You're you're looking 145 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: what we were looking for this weekend, and in no 146 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: particular order, was adding some pieces to the passing game. 147 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: UM run after catch mismatch ability, and that could be 148 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: at a receiver, that could be at a tight end, 149 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: and then this case was a running back. But this 150 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: is a guy you're gonna, you know, you're gonna try 151 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: to get the ball in his hands in space, whether 152 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: that's handed to him in a wide zone, line him 153 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: out of receiver, running him in a screen like there's 154 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: just various ways to get the ball in his hand, 155 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: and we're excited about what he does with it in 156 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: his hands. He has sense a trend of guys like that. 157 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: We've talked last year and a year or two ago. 158 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: For the last couple of years on the defensive side, 159 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: getting these hybrid guys that are um you know, athletes, 160 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, just you can rush the passer, they can 161 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: cover guys and they can they can tackle and whatever. 162 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Is there a trend on your on the offensive side 163 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: of the ball about guys like a Deebo Samuel, like 164 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie a little bit, guys you can hand it to, 165 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: line up in the backfield and also split out wide. 166 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Is there a kind of a trend going towards that 167 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: for a guy like James Cook, Yeah, I think what 168 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to do is and you know this is 169 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: you're trying to get the get the defense into a 170 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: defense that where you got an advantage. And how do 171 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: they Okay, if you go out there with two tight ends, 172 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: how are they playing you? Are they playing you like 173 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: you're running the ball? Are they just using those as 174 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: two more receivers? Like, so you're looking at now at 175 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: this point adding him. If we go with Motor or 176 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Moss in the game with him, what defense are we 177 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: getting versus just him in the game. You know, just 178 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: this just gives if we go with two tight ends 179 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: in the game, and this can like that's what really 180 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: you're looking for how people will play you. And I 181 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: know last year at times um Dable was using Reggie 182 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: Gill him a lot just because what defense we were getting, 183 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: which he thought gave us some advantages. So um, to me, 184 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: it's a mismatch piece that we can use lined up 185 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: in the backfield, lined up, split out, and just different 186 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: ways to get him the ball and hopefully get him 187 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: on a on a linebacker that we think he's gonna 188 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: have him out there in twenty two personnel. It's not 189 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: necessarily a power formation because you can throw it to 190 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: him and you know, split him out or send him. 191 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there multitude of options there. It's it's pretty attractive. Um, 192 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard right away, I can see this kid being 193 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: a special team's cover demon for you guys on teams. 194 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: But he seems like a linebacker where as long as 195 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: you can keep him clean, you've got good dts. If 196 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: you can keep him clean, he can get you one 197 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: hundred tackles without breaking a sweat. Yeah, I mean, that's 198 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the thing he's he's a linebacker. First. We do think 199 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: he'll be help us on fourth down. But um, you know, 200 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: we lost a J. Klein. You know, he's been a 201 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: great fit for us the last couple of years, but 202 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: the salary cap it is what it is, and we 203 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: had to make some tough decisions, and so adding a 204 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: guy with his smarts and his versatility to play inside 205 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: and play outside. Um, he's a playmaker. Like you want 206 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: to knock his size, tasker got his size not too. 207 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: He belongs in the Hall of Fame. And you know, 208 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: hopefully this kid will will will be a heck of 209 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: a player. He's gonna he knows how to play the game. 210 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: He's a slippery blitzer. When you watch him, he knows 211 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: how to do it. He's instinctive, he's smart. Guys like 212 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: him make up for their lack of prototype size with 213 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: all the other things, his preparation, his instincts, his quick twitch. Um, 214 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: you know in the box, he's got range, you know. 215 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: So we feel like you're right that if if, if 216 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: our guys are holding up in there, that he's gonna 217 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: be able to run and chant. Yeah, we were worried too, 218 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: We thought too. And you look deeper into Bernard had 219 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: some trouble sometimes staying on the field. What do you 220 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: to me some guys like that who are maybe a 221 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: little undersize, it's because they play a little reckless. You 222 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: see his highlights. I mean he's not afraid to stick 223 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: his nose in it. I mean the undersized guys sometimes 224 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: self preservations an issue. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, No, 225 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: he'll definitely have to learn how to how we tackle 226 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: and what we expect and um keeping himself healthy. But um, 227 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: he's a tough kid, and you know, our medical people 228 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: felt really good with him. You know. Yeah, a lot 229 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: of these guys come out and they've they've had nicks 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: here and there. But um, we think he'll be a 231 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: good fit here and again give us some versatility as 232 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: an inside outside guy. I know, when I asked you 233 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: on Saturday, you know, do you put Shakier in the 234 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: run after catch column as well? You said yes. The 235 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: thing about him is, while he has that first step 236 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: quickness off the line, he's got these hesitation moves at 237 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: the top of the right. He just leaves people in 238 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: the dust as far as separation. I know he ran 239 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: in the low four fours, but there's a craftiness to 240 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: his route running, which seems pretty advanced for a young 241 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: player just coming into the league, right. I mean it's 242 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: especially for like a fifth round pick, like he's crafty. Yeah, 243 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: he's a He's a really good football player. That's what 244 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: he is. He's not he's not small, but he's not big. 245 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: He's just right in the middle. He's just under six 246 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: foot's one hundred and ninety six pounds. He's good with 247 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. He's got some speed once 248 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: he's up and run, and we do think he can 249 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: help us with the rack. We love his versatility, similar 250 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: to when we got Gay, different different size still, but 251 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: you know when we brought Gaby, like man, this kid's 252 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: smart and can play multiple spots. We like that about Shakir. 253 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: He's making you gotta watch the highlights. Yeah. One of 254 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: the things too, is he catches really well. He's got 255 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: amazing body control, great hands, a little bit like Cole Beasley. 256 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Cole makes them catches that really look hard to make, 257 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: and he makes them consistently. This guy, same thing. He doesn't. 258 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: Ball doesn't get on the ground when you throw it 259 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: to him. And I think that's I mean, we used 260 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: to laugh. Yeah, can he catch the ball as a 261 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: as a guy you're gonna throw the football too. Um, yeah, 262 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: it's called receiving exactly exactly. Sometimes I gets lost in 263 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: the you know, you get their forty times their vertical 264 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: they're broad jump, Um they can. If he can catch, 265 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not just a plus, it's kind 266 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: of core value. Right Yeah, yeah, you kind of need 267 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: to do that. But he does that really really, he 268 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: does it well. He you know, he had the drops 269 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: he had were generally concentration drops. He had some, but uh, 270 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: you know to what Brownie was alluding to while ago, 271 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: he had some really you know, body control one hand 272 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: along the sideline. He made some spectacular catches. He's got 273 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: ball skilled doing one eighties and like backhanded, there was 274 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: some highlight real stuff. Yeah, there's some stuff. At his 275 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: pre draft press conference week before their draft, coach McDermott 276 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: was asked about adding speed at receiver. Coach said he 277 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: believed they they already had good team speed, but that 278 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: you never turn it down. Hum, the top three skill 279 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: position players you drafted Elam Cook, Shakier four three nine 280 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: four four two four four three at the NFL Combine. 281 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Obviously it's not the only part of a prospect's skill set. 282 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt, right, I mean you added some juice here. Yeah. 283 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, you're always looking for speed any position. You're 284 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: talking about linebacker we just talked about with Bernard, even 285 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: a lineman, you're looking for his speed to get out 286 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: on a pole or a screen whatever. So, um, you're 287 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: always looking to add speed, but not at the expense 288 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: of being a good football player. And you know, speed 289 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: without instincts doesn't equal that's they don't play as fast. 290 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: So I would say all three of these guys are 291 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: very instinctive players, and you see their speed matchup. What's 292 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: the first week and expect to see these guys like 293 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: out here running around. I mean, I know that you 294 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: know they've already been in town or how when's the 295 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: last one of these guys arrive or has he arrived already? 296 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: So we only bring in the Thursday night pick and 297 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: the two Friday um. Other than that just in case 298 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: somehow class or whatever. So we'll bring them in a 299 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: week from Thursday, we'll have our rookie camp. It'll end 300 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: up being kind of two days, just so that we 301 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: don't um wear them out because they'll join that they'll 302 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: stay and join the Vets after that. Yeah, rookie main 303 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: camps extra week back. Pushed it back away because usually 304 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: it's that first week right after the draft, so it's 305 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: the following week, stay away from Mother's Day. Don't make 306 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: any moms man first first time. It's the reason we 307 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: started doing two we we've done it most recently, but 308 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: um and we did it two weeks after last year. 309 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Is because if you bring him in the first week, 310 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: he had to turn and fly them all home and 311 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: turn and fly them all back in with air travel 312 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: and all the you know, this isn't the easiest place 313 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: the world to get to. It's it's much easier to 314 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: bring him in one time and keep him One more 315 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: thing on Shakier. Your biggest move was in that round. 316 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: You go up twenty twenty spots for Shakier. You don't 317 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: make a move like that unless you you really someone's 318 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: really sticking out on your board. Was he essentially there 319 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: by himself to make that move? Yeah, he was. When 320 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: we got to pick one thirty that I traded to 321 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore to move up for Elam, I looked at the 322 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: board and it's just a habit of mine really usually 323 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: just to piss myself off and say we could have 324 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: had that, got antsy and traded up. Now I knew 325 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: all along I would do that, but when pick one 326 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: thirty came up, he would have been the guy. And 327 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: so when it got to the fifth round, I had 328 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: had some conversations with Jeff King, former tight end and 329 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: used to play for us in Carolina. He's now in 330 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: the Bears front office, and had talked to him in 331 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: the morning. He had called and said they were looking 332 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: to acquire, you know, more picks, and would we be 333 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: willing to move one of our six to move up 334 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: at some point? And I said, do me a favor, 335 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: call me at the beginning of the fifth let me 336 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: see what's on the board after four and we'll decide. 337 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: And I said, hey, there's a guy like if if 338 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: he's still there, we'll get this done nice. Right. Yeah, 339 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: you always say your team doesn't play a game until September, 340 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: so you're always working on the roster. This is the 341 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: time of year. I'm not telling you anything you don't know, 342 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: but this is the time of year when teams may 343 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: throw some vets overboard depending on what they got in 344 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the draft. And we've seen a little of that already 345 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: around the league. But will your cap situation allow you 346 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: to kind of keep looking if you feel there's a 347 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: vet or two that can help you. Yeah, I mean, 348 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: I think the cap is still an issue. We have 349 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: to we have to be mindful because you know, even 350 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: where our cap number sits, that's that's our top fifty one. 351 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: When if you just sit here and look and you 352 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: do some early roster projections of where we need more 353 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: money to get into the regular seat and so, um, 354 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: it's not like if we were going into the if 355 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: we were cutting it down right now based on you know, 356 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: certain criteria, not knowing how it's going to play out, 357 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: if you were just doing a guess of roughly some 358 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: of the ways that we could break down. You know, 359 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: we're we need another three or four million bucks for that, 360 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: and then you got replacement costs guys that get injured 361 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: between now and that time or even in season. You 362 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: want to cushim, you need to save, so you're always 363 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: trying to save five six million bucks going into that. 364 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: So we don't have a lot of flexibility. But yes, 365 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: we'll still be out there looking for some vets, hopefully 366 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: they're at our price. If if is there anything if 367 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: you look back at this draft, No, no no, you just did. 368 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: You told us you did your review. Um was there? 369 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: You don't have to tell us what it was? I guess, 370 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: but was there's most like you know, if you know, 371 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: it's easy to do it after the fact. Yeah, is 372 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: there some of that stuff? If I had known, yeah, 373 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: there's all. There's always um. And that's the if I 374 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: had known, I worry more about at the top of 375 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: the draft versus the bottom. And that is why I 376 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: traded up for Kayyer because I didn't want to say 377 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: because I really wasn't necessarily worried about those two teams, 378 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: but I was just worried about someone knowing our desire 379 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: for a corner to trade in front of us was 380 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: my biggest concern, and you just can't predict that. And 381 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: I wanted to sleep as good as I could that 382 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: night and know we're right here where a couple of 383 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: picks away. We really like this guy. He fits us. 384 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: I'll figure out the fourth round later and we'll take 385 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: this guy right with a quarterback class that didn't deliver 386 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: in the draft. In terms of storylines, if you're sitting 387 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: in our seats and you need a headline for this 388 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: year's draft, is it receivers or is it pass rushers? 389 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Do you think? I mean that run on receivers was interesting, 390 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: and I think to what we were talking about earlier, 391 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: the run on receivers and then okay, there's nobody left 392 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: that I think can impact me the way I want. 393 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to get a J Brown or Hollywood Brown. Um. 394 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: That was that was interesting. Just the where the this 395 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: whole the narrative from a player standpoint of this offseason 396 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: is where the receiver market has gone. And um, you've 397 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: seen that either through frustration of contracts or through pay 398 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: raises like we gave Steph Diggs m to the six 399 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: in a row and then two teams trading first round 400 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: picks plus to get a guy. Yea. And also the 401 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: fact that ten minutes later a J Brown out of 402 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: five year, one billion dollar extension like that. Yeah, maybe 403 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: this was in the works for a little while. Yeah, 404 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: and you got it. In hindsight, you also get a 405 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: look at and you had mentioned in your post draft 406 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: that you know, ELM was kind of your last number 407 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: one that you had on your board, and as you 408 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: look at it and look at the other teams, particularly 409 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: in the AFC East, what And I guess I don't 410 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: know what New England was doing, but their line for 411 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: the their number one picks was different than than the bills. 412 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: It seems like particularly everybody else and everybody else, right, 413 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: but also the other teams, everybody's lying about who's number 414 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: one and who's not. Is similar but different, it's definitely different. Yeah, 415 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Like yeah, you you the interesting part about the time. 416 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: I may have fifteen first round grades and you may 417 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: have nineteen and right, but it can be a tech though. 418 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: I may have a guy right below just very top 419 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: of two. I may have some guys right there that 420 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm going there's one thing that's keeping me from saying, 421 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: because first round he's got to hit a lot of 422 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: things he's got to have, as you know, very few holes. 423 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: You're trying to eliminate the bus factor, and you know what, 424 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: there's something they're holding me back. Sometimes it can be medical, 425 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: but sometimes it can be character. Sometimes it can be smarts. 426 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: Something tells me I gotta be a little bit concerned 427 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: as talented as he is, but I would take him 428 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: all day in the second round. Yeah right, um, your 429 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: last pick, bayl Inspector. I'm talking to my dad on 430 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the phone last night and he lives down in Somerville, 431 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina. He's like, you got one of the Bruise Brothers. 432 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I was like, what's because I hadn't heard that, so yeah, 433 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: So I looked it up and sure enough, that's what 434 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: they called those two guys, the bruiseburg I don't know. 435 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: You said. He certainly brings an edge to a defense, 436 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: so there ain't nothing wrong with a little bit of nasty. Yeah. No, 437 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: he's he's a versatile player, similar type skill set to 438 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: Bernard Um. You know, a versatile player running. Chase has 439 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: played high level football. You know, Clemson has had a 440 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: really good program that got in the playoffs pretty much 441 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: every year till this year, and so he's he's fun 442 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: to watch, you know, again a running chase. He should 443 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: help us on fourth down also, and um, I guess 444 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: said last or two nights ago. I'm excited about these 445 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: late round guys. I think we got some guys um 446 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: that are gonna push hard for a roster spot. Yeah. Right, 447 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: and then as you know, offseason wears on um going 448 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: back to Rochester, gonna get a little bit back to 449 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: normalcy for this training camp, right. I mean, you're gonna 450 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: everybody's headed over there. You're gonna pick up and move 451 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: the entire caravan traveling circus all the way over. It's 452 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: gotta be gonna be you gotta be looking forward to 453 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: that in some way. I know. Training camps, training camp 454 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: man o, man, I love it, Yeah, I love it. 455 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: It's a great setup, it's a great town. They embrace us. Um, 456 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: it's not too far away, you know. Listen, Like anything, 457 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: there's always a little bit of I gotta go say 458 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: in a dorm room, I gotta do this. But when 459 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: the guys get there, uh, there's a lot of camaraderie. 460 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun, and it takes pressure off 461 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: if you've got obligations at home, taking kids to daycare 462 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: or night feeds wherever you are, and your family plan 463 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: and even listen to my wife, Hey honey, what time 464 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: you leave? And can you stop by CVS and pick 465 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: up prescription formula? Like I don't have to worry about 466 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: any of that, And I know the players feel the 467 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: same way. Yeah. I went on a little bit of 468 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: a rant last week because I was trying to watch 469 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: some Pac twelve offensive players, you know, just YouTube videos 470 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm watching these tight ends like Dulcitch 471 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: from UCLA, and I got angry because you and I know, 472 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not asking you, you know, I know you've 473 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: got relationships that you got to maintain and everything with 474 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: college scout, college coaches and all that stuff. But defense 475 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve, Brandon, I gotta imagine that's got 476 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: to make some evaluations on offensive players more challenging at times, 477 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: because some of the defenses in that conference, It's like 478 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm watching guys catch balls. There's nobody else in the 479 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: camera shots. It's the kid catching the ball. There's nobody 480 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: near him but green Grass. How does that impact evaluations 481 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: sometimes when they're playing at a conference where maybe the 482 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: defense for lack of a better term is substandard. Well, 483 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: you have to do all of it. You have to listen, 484 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Christian Benford played at Villanova. That's a different level than 485 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: Kayer Elam play that, and so it's a it's an 486 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: easier translation to see Kayer Elam playing in the NFL 487 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: than it is Christian Benford who's going against. So you're 488 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: trying to find matchups. You're trying to find these guys 489 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: that seeness where Senior Bowl All Star games help and 490 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: you're hoping at some point they played even maybe if 491 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: you know there's only two games a year or three 492 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: games a year that were man that was a legit game, 493 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: a PAC twelve championship or whatever. They you're looking for 494 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: those opportunities to see because it is College scouting is 495 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: much harder than pro scouting because you see guys every 496 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: day going against their level of player. You can be 497 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: just going against a week opponent that week and you're 498 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: just abusing them, and you're also grading the athletic traits. 499 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: You're watching them come off the line, their build up speed, 500 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: their lateral quicks, their hand eye reading a defense to 501 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: know whether or not to run themselves into coverage and 502 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: know when to sit down on a zone. So there's 503 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: still other things you can find out, But you're right, sometimes, 504 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: depending on the level of play, you have to kind 505 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: of throw the defense out. Yeah, because I know you 506 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: guys rely on the tape maybe more than anything else. 507 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: But if the tapes not yeah, value, I mean, there's 508 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: always something you can get from it, as you just 509 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: pointed out, But if the value of the competition isn't there, 510 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: I gotta always believe. I gotta believe it makes the 511 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: evaluation tougher. Sometime it definitely does. Yeah, Yeah, what's next? 512 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: What's on the agenda? So we're we're filling out this 513 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: rookie camp right now because you know, we want to 514 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: be able to go eleven on eleven out there, and 515 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: you don't have enough with your draft picks and unsigned, 516 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: so we're inviting some guys to rookie camp. We've got 517 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: most of those out and just working finalizing that and 518 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: then we'll work through any um staffing changes if you know, 519 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: if those weren't occur in scouting. This is kind of 520 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: the end of the scouting season, um, so we'll see, 521 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: we'll see how that works, and then um, after we 522 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: get through this rookie camp, get our weekends back. Hopefully 523 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: see you in the golf course. Yeah, is there? Um, 524 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: is there anything to be done in scouting the USFL. Yeah, 525 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: we're we're we're we'll follow that because there's definitely guys. 526 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: We love it. When there's other leagues, we'll track that 527 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: and listen, we're going to continue to monitor. What you 528 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: said earlier, guy, is that they're still free agents that 529 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: didn't sign that. We're like, hey, I didn't get the 530 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: contract I wanted. I'll just wait to draft, to draft 531 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: and find a team that didn't pick a player that 532 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, at my position and signed for a lesser 533 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: than they probably thought. But we're still monitoring that. We're 534 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: not in the ninety. Um, we're you know with the 535 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: guys we've kind of have agreements on. We're around eighty 536 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: eighty four, I think, so we still got six spots 537 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: to you know, by the time we get to Saint 538 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: John Fisher to kind of work our way up to Brandon. 539 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. Is always we appreciate draft a 540 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah, good job, it's fun for us. 541 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't know now you know what draft parts fun. 542 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: It's uh, there's some grueling times, but you get your 543 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: feelings hurt here and there that view. Are you satisfied 544 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: with the way the draft rooms set up? Now? You've 545 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: been doing it like it's gotta be like hone, you 546 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: gotta dialed in now right. I mean, it's good the guy. 547 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: We've had so many guys, so many, so much continuity. 548 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: I know we've lost Joe and Dan Morgan a year ago, 549 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: but the other guys that have filled in have been 550 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: here and seen the operation. This year, we got to 551 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: have everybody back. Last year it was ten people. Obviously, 552 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: was in my base basement. Everybody was excited to be 553 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: back in the room and it was it was like 554 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: old times. Did Shane give you a call? Oh yeah, 555 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: he messed with me. I messed with him, obviously. I 556 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: saw him on ESPN, so I was trying to blow 557 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: his phone up. He got me back. He was calling 558 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: him during the ramp up press scout. It was pretty fun. 559 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: Thanks again, Brandon. We appreciate this time. All right. That's 560 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: Bill's GM Brandon Bean joining us here at the top 561 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: of our Monday post draft review. Plenty more coming your 562 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: way next Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colli 563 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio all right, welcome back 564 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live post draft edition. Chris Brown, Steve 565 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: Tasking a good conversation there with GM Brandon bean Um 566 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: that I cannot I was trying to remember, and we 567 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: probably should. I probably should ask Rand in this because 568 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: he probably remembers better than I do. I don't think 569 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: he's ever made a move as big as the one 570 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: that he made. I mean for Khalil Shakir. The number 571 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: of twenty spots, Yeah, yeah, I think that's his Well, 572 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: I guess if you count the steps in which he 573 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: made his way up to seven to get Josh, that 574 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: is more. But in terms of a one trade, a 575 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: single trade move, because that was a couple of trades 576 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: in a row, because he traded Cordy Glenn to go 577 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: oh even so, it's only fifteen spots. He went from 578 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: twenty two to twelve and then traded up with Tampa 579 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Bay to go from twelve to seven. So in the 580 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: end it was fifteen spots and it took two trades 581 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: to get there. Twenty spots for Khalil Shakir. And he 582 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: reiterated it again here, Steve, because I know I mentioned 583 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: this to you when he came in this morning. That 584 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: after the draft was over and he was asked about Shakier, 585 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: he said he could view him in this team's number 586 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: four receiver role, where he's basically backing up all three spots. 587 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: That was the same role as he pointed out here 588 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago that Gabriel Davis held down as a rookie. 589 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: That's some high praise right out of the shows. It 590 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: speaks to their intelligence and their football awareness. Yeah, they 591 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: got to know where to line up in every formation, 592 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: where every guy is, and how and what they're supposed 593 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: to be doing. It's a lot to know, it's a 594 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: lot to learn, but that's what the guy's displayed in 595 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: his intelligence, and it's it's difficult. It's difficult. Um, there's 596 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: so much going on for these young guys coming in. 597 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: You think about a guy like Shakier comes in, you 598 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: gotta I mean, you're trying to get to know guys 599 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: new words, and you know you have some of the 600 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: you know football is football, but you don't know what 601 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: they call it right, So it's what's far left to 602 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: these guys could be over over you know, over four 603 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of you can just call a different name, um, 604 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: different formations, So you gotta learn all that. Then you 605 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: got to learn the assignments for the plays for all 606 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: the guys. And it's hard enough just to learn one 607 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: guy and then forget about learning all Then you gotta 608 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: go out and compete against a high level, you know, 609 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: against guys that were better than anybody lined up on 610 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: a day to day basis against. So there's a lot 611 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: on your plate coming in and for a guy like 612 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis did it and did it really well, we 613 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: didn't know because remember we couldn't we couldn't watch him right. 614 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: We didn't know how important he was gonna be. And 615 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: not only that. The thing we heard about Davis is 616 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: because I remember this, Brandon would talk about it, um, 617 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: Brian Dabele would talk about it. Gabriel Davis is such 618 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: an impressive rookie because he's wise beyond his years. And 619 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: I get the sense that they feel that Khalil Shakier 620 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: has similar processing skills of the scheme, of the concepts 621 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: and can very we remember, very easily executed on the field. 622 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: They have that sense from him. And you hear Brandon say, 623 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: because I said, he had to be sticking out on 624 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: your board if you're going up twenty spots in the 625 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: fifth round, and he said we would have taken him 626 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: with our fourth round pick, right that they traded away 627 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: to get kyer Eling right, And that's you know, it's 628 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: interesting because back in twenty twenty, when nobody was in 629 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: the stadium watching these guys, and it was Gabe's rookie 630 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: season opening day, first first game, He's out there taking 631 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: reps on the field live. I'm like, we were like, wow, well, 632 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: why the ms like him? And sure enough he has 633 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: continued to expand that role. And now because you know, 634 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: and you saw what happened in the last game the 635 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: Bills actually were on the field, the guy catch four 636 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the playoff game. And I don't want to 637 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: oversell and put too many expectations on Shakire, but I'm 638 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: kind of hearing a lot of the same things from 639 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: the Bill's front office about Shakier that we kind of 640 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: heard in the early going about Gabriel Davis. We'll see 641 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: how it plays out on the field. That's what ultimately matters. Right. Well, 642 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting too because it's going to be a different 643 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. But it's you know, Dorsey was here, was 644 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: he here? He was here in twenty fourth season. They've 645 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: seen these guys go through that, and they've got this. 646 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're gonna have a protocol in place 647 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: and some mile markers in place for what they want 648 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: Shakir to be doing and how much they're getting out 649 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: of him. It'll be interesting to see. Two. I remember 650 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: in training camp we heard rumblings because nobody was watching. 651 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: Once again, during the pandemic of Gabe Davis, we're working 652 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: him here, and Susie masters that then we're gonna move 653 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: him around, and we never heard anything, and certainly they 654 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: started moving him around. So we'll probably get a much 655 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: closer view and a much more live view of how 656 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: this process goes with Shakir than we ever did with 657 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, even though it went so well with Gabe Davis. Yeah, 658 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really a similar set of circumstances 659 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: in terms of the pecking order, because you're talking back then, 660 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: when Gabe was a rookie, the top three receivers were Diggs, 661 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Brown and Beasley, and he was the four. And now 662 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: right now, at least on paper, it's Digs, Davis, and Crowder. 663 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: You would assume in the slot the veteran player. Yeah, 664 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: It depends on how big a role they want to 665 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: give him mackenzie and how much they want to put 666 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: on his play right or how much he impressed him 667 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: from last year because we said it, Isaia McKenzie could 668 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: not have played better when he got the opportunity last year. 669 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that shakes out. But talking about 670 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Jack here, like in the running for the number four 671 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: role four hours after they drafted. Oh listen, it's and 672 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: it's a room that's Scut that's impressed Scut. Yeah, it's 673 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: got Kumero in it, Hodgens, m Marquet, Stevenson, They've got 674 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: some guys in there. Um And I'll say, you know, 675 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: watching Hodgens, Hodgson's big, He's added some bulk in his frame. 676 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: I think he knows. He knows speed is not how 677 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: he wins. He wins with his deft route running. And 678 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: I think he I think he also knows if I 679 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: can just get a little bit stronger and I can 680 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: shield defenders better, right, that makes me a more a target. 681 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: You could be more confident. What happens it when you 682 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: play in and you're trying to release upper body string. 683 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: You know it's all about explosion. So at your bottom 684 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: half waist down so you can you know, your power 685 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: plant and your legs and your quick feet and all that, 686 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: but up that's what gets you speed and gets you 687 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: velocity and gets you in and out of breaks with 688 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: some explosion that gives the quarterback some confidence. Then he 689 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: leads you out there. You're gonna be able to get 690 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: out there and get it away from the defender. But 691 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: at the release and at the top of routes a 692 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: little bit to a lesser extent, but the same, your 693 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: upper body strength gives you the gives you freedom to 694 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: move to start to run, because if a guy stays 695 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: in front of you're trying to hand fight, you can't 696 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: really you can't put your shoulders down to start running 697 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: right because you're hand fighting. Upper body strength at the 698 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: release is really key, and guys don't see that at college, right. 699 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: They don't get that kind of physical play a lot 700 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: in college. So when they get up here to the NFL, 701 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: it's something they see. It's like, wow, I you know 702 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: I needn't when I when I start to shrug the 703 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: guy off, he won't move. I can't get him right. 704 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: So you see a guy like Hodgens take that to heart. 705 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: And he comes in a little bit more buffy. The 706 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: same thing we've been saying with Greg Russo's gigantic. He 707 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: the guy looks, he looks he's as big as a dinosaur. 708 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy looks like he's in a movie. 709 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: So um. Most of you see these guys who are 710 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: committed and understand, and you can. It's hard to do 711 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: when you've had so much success like these young guys 712 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: have and these rookie this rookie class will be no 713 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: different when you look in them. It's a gift to 714 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: look in the mirror and say, I'm not all of that. 715 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: I gotta do something, you know, because a lot of 716 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: these guys go, I'm good, I got this. You know, 717 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: I was beating up on like my saying, I goes 718 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: beating up on these dental students. How about how much 719 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: different can it be? Yeah, you get up here, it's different. 720 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: It's a little different, and it's hard to it's hard 721 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: to get your mind around looking yourself in the mirror 722 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: and watch yourself on tape and saying, man, oh man, 723 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: I got some work to I still have some faith 724 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: in Hodgens. The thing that impressed me most when I 725 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: when I remember back to watching his college tape, he 726 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 1: separates with a deft route running style because, like I said, 727 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: he's not quick twitch and he's not fast on the watch, 728 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: but he's just there's some subtlety to the way he 729 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: runs his routes. And I gotta tell you, he's one 730 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: of the best double move guys I saw in his 731 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: class that year. Yeah, he he's here for a reason. 732 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: He's still still here because, yeah, they don't they don't 733 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: hang on to you to save face. I mean, this 734 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: is not a this is not a general manager, a 735 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: head coaching. Anybody has to like, oh wow, if we 736 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: if we cut Isaiah Hodgens, we're gonna look bad. But 737 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: they don't care. He's here because he's shown them something. 738 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: They got some hope for him. So we'll see. Let's 739 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: go to the phones at eight oh three five fifty one, 740 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two, five fifty. You're welcome to join 741 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: us there if you have any thoughts on the Bill 742 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: twenty two draft class. And we lead off today with 743 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: John in Brockport. John, what do you have for us? 744 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: Y're all one, Bill's Live. I'd just like to know 745 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: what your thought is. Do you think Josh Allen control 746 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: the Bob Fathers and Matt Areza can kick it. Oh 747 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: probably not. Yeah, I'm gonna say probably not. Probably not. 748 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: Now he can throw it that, he can throw it 749 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: as far as a riser can kick it on a 750 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: more consistent basis. But when the best punt comes off 751 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: a Ris's foot and the best throw comes off Josh's foot, 752 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: a Risa's kick will go further. I mean Josh can 753 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: throw at seventy legit. Ariza has a couple of eighty 754 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: yard punts. Yeah, there's a couple of highlight He's got 755 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: some rollers. He's got an eighty two yarder that he 756 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: kicks from his goal line. You know, the line of 757 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: scrimmage was like on the ten, he steps up, boots 758 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: it right from the goal line and it lands on 759 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: the eighteen yard line at the other end. It's not 760 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: a forty yarder that rolls thirty yards, No, it's all 761 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: in the air. It landed on the eighteen yard line, 762 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: so it's yeah, so yeah, it goes to the punter. 763 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go. And we didn't even talk 764 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: to Brandon about that, and that'll be an interesting competition 765 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: between him and Matt Hawk. I'll say this one of 766 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: the things that Arisea does do and whether you like 767 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: it or not or whatever, uman you were seeing here 768 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: watching him kick field goals as well, he does line 769 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: drive some kicks. Some coaches don't like that. Some coaching 770 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: staffs are against it. And I'll give you an example 771 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: when when when I played Marv Leaving Bruce de Haven, 772 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: their philosophy was, give me a punter who kicks it 773 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: forty yards at least with hang time, and I want 774 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: every kick fair caught because we'll never give up a 775 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: touchdown to a fair catch. We'll never risk it. But 776 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: if we get forty yards a field position, we'll take it. 777 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: Now you'll find more coaching staffs willing to let their 778 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: guys cover the kick and just say, hey, listen, if 779 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: you can get a sixty five yard punt and they 780 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: return it ten yards, we still get a fifty five 781 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: yard net and we'll take the extra fifteen yard. You know, 782 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: they're trying to maximize field position as much as they can. 783 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: And uh so there's there's that philosophy as well. Um 784 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: I heard a rise of two on his on his call, 785 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: he's left foot punts left footed, which we're all watching 786 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: here on MSG he's right handed, puns left footed. I 787 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: just watched there. It looks like he dropped it out 788 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: of his left hand. Yes, that's right. I want to 789 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: watch that again. Well that's the thing. If you're punting, 790 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: you have to drop it out of the same hand 791 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: as your side, which means he's dropping it with his 792 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: off hand. Because I thought, oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, 793 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: so it's a week I thought when he said I'm 794 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: right handed, I thought that meant he drops it out 795 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: of his right hand. No, he drops it out. He 796 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: drop it out of your left hand. You have to 797 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: because that's you know, I got confused when he said 798 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: that on the conference call. And you know he's said 799 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: at two he's when you know an old friend of mine, 800 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: Darren Bennett, who was the punter for the Chargers, who 801 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: who is He's Australian right, Yes, he's the guy who 802 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: who brought the ausey kick yeah to the NFL. And 803 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: he was and Darren Bennett was talking to Arise his 804 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: father and said, you know he's kicking left foot a yeah, 805 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: and he's but and his dad said, yeah, but he's 806 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: right handed. He said, Darren bench just walked off. It's hard. 807 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: It's hard to drop it because it's all in the 808 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: drop for a punter, correct you gotta put it on 809 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: your foot correctly, otherwise it's shankapotamus. Right And if you're 810 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: doing it with it, you know, it's like doing everything 811 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: left handed when you're a right handed person, it's hard 812 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: to do it exactly right. So, um, it is an 813 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: issue left footed kicker, but he's right handed. There's a 814 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: ton of that in the NFL, much dominant. I mean 815 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: he had he broke the gross punting record. It used 816 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: to be held by Braden Man, who was a sixth 817 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: round pick of the Jets a couple of years ago. 818 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: He broke the NCAA record for that fifty one point three. 819 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: He broke the gross punting record. Yeah, that's that's a 820 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: big number by any standard, I mean an NFL standards. Um, 821 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: it used to be Brownie when I played nobody, it 822 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: was like the Holy Grail. You couldn't net forty yards 823 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: for the season. Now now maybe half the league that 824 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: it's about fourteen punters. Yeah, maybe half league nets forty. 825 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: That's how good they've gotten, you know, that's how good 826 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: they've gotten. Ray guy, If you put and it's just 827 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: like Joe Naimuth's numbers as a quarterback, stacked up against 828 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks these days, Um Jim's numbers, Terry Bradshaw's numbers, 829 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: Roger stabos numbers. You stack those up, some of the 830 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: some of the metrics of how you do that, You 831 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: stack up like Ray Guys punting numbers with these guys, 832 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: and it's you can't it's not even a comparison. It's 833 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: just different now, arise. It was also the Ray Guy 834 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: Award winner, so yeah, best punter in the country and 835 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: he was actually he's turned out to be third guy taken. Yes, 836 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: which he's gonna he's gonna take his gonna chew that up, 837 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: swallow it and let it fester. Um. For those that 838 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: did not see it, the jersey numbers for all of 839 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: the draft choices are out. We will tell you who 840 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: those who has what number, and the eight members of 841 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: the draft class when we return here on One Bills 842 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, 843 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 844 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: with you. As we mentioned, the jersey numbers have been 845 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: assigned to Buffalo's twenty twenty two draft class, and they 846 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: are as follows in order in which they were selected 847 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: by the Bills in the draft. Kayer Elam is going 848 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: to wear jersey number twenty four. James Cook is going 849 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: to wear jersey number twenty eight. Some thought he might 850 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: choose number four, but four was already taken by Jaquan Johnson, 851 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: who changed from his jersey number forty six the last 852 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: couple of years here in the off season. Terrell Bernard 853 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: forty three, Khalil Shakier number ten, Matt Ariza number nineteen, 854 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: which is the highest number a punter could have, Christian 855 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: Benford the corner of forty seven, Luke Tanuda sixty seven, 856 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: and Balin Specter the linebacker fifty four. You can go 857 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: to Buffalo Bills on Twitter if you need to see 858 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: those numbers in jersey colors. They are there for you 859 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: as r MSG viewers are seeing right now. Nothing too 860 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: outlandish there. I do remember it wasn't too long ago. 861 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: Steve linebackers like shunned any number in the forties, and 862 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: it's become more commonplace now. I know Tremaine Evans has 863 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: been forty nine here for four years, but I still 864 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: remember guys winding about the forty ah, forty number makes 865 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: you look fat and that's terrible in a jersey, and 866 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: guys are getting used to it now they've now they've 867 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: liberalized the number of things. It's you know, guys kind 868 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: of picked their own. Well, yeah, and you got single digits. 869 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: And for those that haven't heard, you might be saying, well, 870 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: how come kayye Elam's getting twenty four? Isn't that Terren 871 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: Johnson's number. Tarren Johnson switched his number in the offseason 872 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: to seven, So your nickel corner is gonna be wearing 873 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: seven this year. That's gonna be a weird thing just 874 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: seeing DB's running around in single digits. I mean, I 875 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: know you see in the in the college game all 876 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: the time because there are no number rules, but I 877 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: think it's still gonna be weird seeing Taron running around 878 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: in a seven. I think the only rules there are 879 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: now are offensive lineman really can't be outside the fifties 880 00:44:54,120 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: to the seventies, right, and then dbs wide out. All 881 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: those can have numbers in the twenties, teens and single 882 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: digits in the eighties, right. I mean OJ Howard took 883 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: number eight. Yeah, so there's gonna be some numbers to 884 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: get used to here. I mean, I know the rules 885 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: went in last year, but I think it's for some 886 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: of them it was too late to make the switch 887 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: because if you try to make a switch after the 888 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: deadline passes, the league mandates that that player has to 889 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: buy out all the jersey inventory that the league has 890 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: in stock. They could get up into the hundreds of 891 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars just to change your numbers. So most guys, 892 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: if they missed the deadline, they just wait till the 893 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: window opens again after the next season, which is what 894 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: Arren Johnson did, changing from twenty four to seven. A 895 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: lot of corners lately, we're in twenty four on the 896 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: Bill's roster. You had Kyrie Lemin. It was Tarren Johnson 897 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: before him. Was it Terrence McGee before that? I know 898 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: he was twenty four. I just don't think there was 899 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: anybody in between those guys. Oh maybe Steph Gilmore he 900 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: were Oh he wore twenty four. You're right after McGee left, right, 901 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: and then Leonard Johnson, who was the nickel corner before 902 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: Arn Johnson. Leonard Johnson the first year good call under 903 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: the McDermott regime. He wore twenty four. I think that's 904 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: the order there. I think we did a pretty good 905 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: job spinning that back about ten fifteen years. Number twenty four, 906 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: popular number on the defensive side of the ball. At corner. 907 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned Luke Tanuda and the number he's got. Yeah, 908 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: Ken Hall's number sixty seven and rolled back in one 909 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: of the legendary guys from the Nighties passed away, but 910 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: just a yeah. That made gave me pause for a second. 911 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: He was a vital member of those teams in a 912 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 1: well loved guy and a Wall of Famer as well. 913 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 1: So those are the jersey numbers for your twenty twenty 914 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: two Bill's draft class. We heard Brandon Bean reference the 915 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: undrafted Steve and he did say they had about nine 916 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: that agreead to contracts. Now, those may still have to 917 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: be physically signed, so they're not official yet. We probably 918 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: won't find out about those until next week, right before 919 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: rookie Minicamp opens, so we await the official word on 920 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: who the undrafted additions are to this roster as well. 921 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we 922 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: come back, ESPN's Matt Bowen is going to join us. 923 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: He has been crunching tape much like his broadcast partner 924 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: on the NFL Matchup Show on ESPN, Great Cosell. So 925 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: we'll get his thoughts on the Bills draft class and 926 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: anything else that surprised him in the twenty twenty two 927 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Next here on One Bills Live presented by 928 00:47:40,200 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: Kalida Health, it's Buffalo Bill's Radio Steve Tasker, who has 929 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: been all over the field. Kind of unique. He was 930 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, ste Steve 931 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the strated here of normalcy. 932 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: Here our number two of our post draft review, One 933 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and pleased 934 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: to be joined now by ESPN NFL analyst and co 935 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, also a former Bill 936 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: safety back in two thousand and six and seven year 937 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 1: NFL veteran Matt Bowen joining us from the Windy City 938 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: or nearby anyway. Hey Matt, Matt, how you doing? I'm 939 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: doing great, guys, how are you good? So I want 940 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: to start here because the general consensus going into the 941 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: draft was absent a quarterback class of star power, that 942 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: this was going to be a pass rusher draft, and 943 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: while that was certainly the case in Round one and 944 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: probably over a good portion of Day two as well. 945 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to submit this to you, Matt. First three 946 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: rounds of the draft, seventeen pass rushers come off the 947 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: board in the first three rounds. There were twenty receivers 948 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds. So people can talk about 949 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: pass rushers all they want. End in the draft, Matt, 950 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty six pass rushers go, twenty eight receivers drafted. What 951 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: is that the headline of this draft? Because receivers have 952 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: reshaped the market this offseason and now you see twenty 953 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: eight kids go off the board, twenty in the first 954 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: three rounds. And I'll tell you what I think that's 955 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: going to continue. When you look at the last couple 956 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: of classes, what we're projecting for next year in the 957 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: year after that. The ten on a wide receiver is 958 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: really deep, and it starts younger. You know, you guys know, 959 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: I coached at the high school level here in Chicago, 960 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: and passing offenses have exploded in high school. A lot 961 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: of spreads, a lot of trips to the field. You're 962 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: seeing more pro and college style concepts in the high 963 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: school game and high school receivers are catching passes, a 964 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: lot of pasts, a lot different than when we were 965 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: all in high school running split back veer right, So 966 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: everything is exploded in transitions to the college level. You 967 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: look at the college level too, places like Alabama. You're 968 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: running pro style routes at Alabama. A lot of colleges 969 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 1: you can say that about that, and then these receivers 970 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: come into the NFL with more pro ruddy traits. In 971 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, that can play right away is you guys 972 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: know in Buffalo, most NFL offenses right now operate with 973 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: three wide receivers on the field. That's their base package. 974 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: So you need three wide receivers there, you need five 975 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: on your roster. You need a couple can play special 976 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: teams for you as well. And I think it's going 977 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: to continue that way as progress in future draft here 978 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: is because the talent is so deep and the development 979 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: is so much more pro ready, how long is it 980 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: going to be before corner catches up to it, Because now, 981 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: if you look at the supply and demand, corners should 982 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: be way out stripping wide receivers. But we still see 983 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill signed a thirty million dollar contract. There isn't 984 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: a cornerback within shouting distance of that. Although there's some 985 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: well paid ones, corners are gonna be at a premium 986 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: because there are fewer of them that can really play 987 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: at that level. No, I agree with that, and I 988 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: tell young kids all the time, if you have natural 989 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: ball skills and you have good top end speed, work 990 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:30,240 Speaker 1: on developing your footworks to play backwards, right because then 991 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: in terms of recruiting, in terms of playing college, in 992 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: terms of getting drafted, like he said, Steed, there is 993 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: going to be a more devand for corners, especially corners 994 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: who have the you know, the long frames that can 995 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: impact the ball at the point of attack, Guys at 996 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: the top end speed to recover down the field, and 997 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: guys who have the hips or the fluid movement traits 998 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: to open a run with wide receivers that open and 999 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: squeeze inside. And I think you saw in this draft two, Steed, 1000 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: the importance of the safety position as well. You saw 1001 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: a lot of safeties drafted in the Day one and 1002 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: Day two, and you put that group together because you 1003 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: can look here in Buffalo, and I've said this all 1004 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: the time throughout the draft process. If I'm building a 1005 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: secondary right now, the model for me in terms of 1006 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: having a safety with multidimensional traits is looking at the 1007 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. That's how I want to build my defense. 1008 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: I want Micah Hid, I want Jordan player and my 1009 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: secondary because they're interchangeable. They can both cover, they can 1010 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: rotate the post, they can spin down and play in 1011 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: the box, they can blitz, and they can match up 1012 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: the tight ends. And most importantly, they tackle on their 1013 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: play with urgency. And he saw some safeties I went 1014 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: through this class to Kuwan Brisco went to the Bears, 1015 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: Brian Cook from Cincinnati who went to Kansas City. Those 1016 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 1: are the type of safeties I think that the NFL 1017 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: really wants now too because they have that versatility because 1018 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: they have to impact the passing game as well. So 1019 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 1: let's begin and speaking of corners with length, Kayer elam 1020 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: Buffalo's top pick. I mean Brandon Being told us he 1021 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: was the last guy they had in round one with 1022 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: the first round grade. So that's why they went up 1023 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: two spots because they didn't want to lose them. You 1024 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: know how much McDermott puts emphasis on run support with 1025 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: his corners, it looks like he can do that. I'm 1026 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: impressed that he's already mastered how to effectively use his length. 1027 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: He's got that reach around move in trail technique. I 1028 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: mean he's been pretty He seems like a pretty advanced 1029 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: guy for a twenty one year old kid. Yeah, and 1030 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: ultra competitive and plays with an aggressive style. You want 1031 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: someone who's physical, has a coverage traits, but ultimately someone 1032 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: who will challenge wide receivers. Is that's what we're gonna 1033 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: get in this in this league every Sunday when you play, 1034 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: and I like to take on Elam. He has traits. 1035 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about traits at the cornerback position, 1036 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned some of them right there, Chris. He's six 1037 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: foot two, he's got sub four four speed, he can 1038 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 1: play press, he's got good eyes and his own coverage. 1039 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna need that in Buffalo because Buffalo is a 1040 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: very multiple defense in my opinion, doesn't get discussed about 1041 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 1: enough because er McDermott under Leslie Phraser, they're playing there 1042 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: split safety coverage. They are playing their single high coverages. 1043 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: They'll get into man pressure with man pressure, but you 1044 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: got to be able to do both. I think you 1045 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: get that with Elam, who has that first round traits 1046 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: and I'm not surprised at all he went in the 1047 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: first round they started going throughout the draft process. Is 1048 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: a couple of names I thought from Buffalo at that spot, 1049 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: obviously Edam was one of them. Andrew Bootht and Clemson 1050 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon from Washington two quarters right there, who went 1051 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: on Day two that Elam has higher level traits and 1052 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,240 Speaker 1: more upside in this league because of the size, because 1053 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: of the speed, because of what he can do making 1054 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: plays in the football. And one of the things we 1055 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: found out after the fact was that the pre draft process, 1056 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean Edam came into his interview with the Buffalo Bills, 1057 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 1: and I mean he he was a mature professional player 1058 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: who was ready for that interview. He talked about self improvement, 1059 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 1: taking notes about what teams did against him, what receivers 1060 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: had success, why they had success, one things he could do, 1061 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 1: I mean his note taking ability, in his command during 1062 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: the interview process. I mean, it just screamed exactly what 1063 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills want in all of their players, let 1064 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: alone a cornerback who could be a number one cornerback 1065 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: in the near future. Yeah. I agree with that, and 1066 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: I've said that before. If you're gonna play for Sean 1067 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: mcderbert's football team. You know, you need a high level 1068 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: football character and a professional approach to what you do. 1069 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 1: And obviously I'm not in the building with you guys, 1070 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: but you can see it in the way people play. Okay. 1071 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: I've always said that when you watch the tape, especially 1072 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: defensive tape, you can understand that there's an established defensive 1073 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: culture and established defensive identity. There's no question Buffalo has that, 1074 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: and especially in the secondary. We already talked about Micah 1075 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: and Jordan, but also Tredavious White and professionals. And they 1076 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: play with the technique, they play with, the fundamentals they 1077 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,280 Speaker 1: play with, their speed to the football, the way they tackle, 1078 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: that's all a part of it. And that's a great 1079 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: veteran room to put a young cornerback in because he's 1080 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 1: going to learn immediately from those veteran guys and learn 1081 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: how to play Buffalo Bills football. Last one on Elam 1082 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: Matt because you mentioned his length and his size and 1083 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: his aggressiveness. We've seen the Bills over the last three 1084 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: or four years when they've had to play Kansas City 1085 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: every year. They've tried just about everybody under the sun 1086 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: on defense, against Kelsey in a matchup situation. They've tried Mulano, 1087 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: They've tried Poyer, They've even put your Davious White on 1088 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: him at times. Could Kaire elam with his height and 1089 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: length and aggressiveness be a potential option that might actually 1090 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: work against Kelsey. It's a great question, and I think 1091 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: it's a good idea because look at how other teams 1092 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: played Kansas City this y'all bring up one Cincinnati when 1093 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,479 Speaker 1: they went to their dime, which the six defensive backs 1094 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: in the field, they used trade flowers. It was a 1095 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: corner who was six foot three and it has got 1096 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: the length and can get aggressive with the tight end 1097 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: in terms of Travis Kelsey at the line of scripts. 1098 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: So that could be an option when they do play 1099 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 1: their man coverages to put Elamano because of tight ruck. 1100 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: He's got the confidence in the competitive traits to do 1101 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: that in a one on one situation. And then they 1102 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: came up in round two, pick number sixty three, they 1103 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: jumped up and got James Cook Brownie and I really 1104 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: started talking about him that day the Friday of the 1105 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: day two, but that before that night began as a 1106 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: guy that all these receivers were getting taken if there 1107 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: was a run on receiver, they weren't going to get one. 1108 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: Cook is a guy who is and I know we 1109 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: make this and I know it sounds crazy, but you know, 1110 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: to give people an idea of what his skill set was, 1111 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: we said, hey, this is a guy like Alvin Kamara 1112 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: who can line up as a wide receiver. He can 1113 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: take handoffs in the backfield, very nifty out of the backfield, 1114 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: can take the handoff and go between the tackles, can 1115 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,439 Speaker 1: outrun guys the edge as a real versatile running back 1116 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: with a big time aspect of wide receiver in his game. 1117 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: We thought both he both Brownie and I thought, man, 1118 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: this is a guy that Bills might grab, and certainly 1119 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: it ended up being that. Yeah, and I agree, you're 1120 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: not comparing him in terms of the player profile at 1121 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: the Alvin Kamara, but the deployment you are. And Greg 1122 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: ko Sell and I really both like James Cook because 1123 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: of how you can deploy him in an NFL offense. 1124 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: I agree, coming out of the backfield, he's gonna create 1125 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: matchups against linebackers all day. There's no question whether he's 1126 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: running a choice or an angle route bursting to the 1127 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: flat and what he can do after the catch in 1128 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: the screen game. But then you go through his tape 1129 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: and George and you'll see the they flexed him outside 1130 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: the formation, and that's where I think he can be 1131 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: really an offensive weapon for this football team. He can 1132 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: flex him to the slot, you can put him out wide, 1133 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: and again that gives you a tactical advantage from an 1134 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: offensive perspective. You walk that running back out there, split 1135 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: wide to the backside of the front side of formation. 1136 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: Someone's got to walk out there with them and you're 1137 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna find out real quickly who it is if you 1138 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: like the match up. And also it's going to tell 1139 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: you from a coverage tendensee perspective, what the defense is 1140 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: playing base on your formation. I think is a runner. 1141 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: You can feature him on perimeter schemes in the NFL, 1142 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 1: what does that mean, toss outside zone, some stretch schemes, 1143 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: because he's got the vision, he's got the short area 1144 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: burst to get up to the second level and he 1145 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: can hit it now. He can hit it when he 1146 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: gets north and south. I love the pick, especially looking 1147 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: at offense like Buffalo, who I think is very QB centric. 1148 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: What I mean by that the offense is built through 1149 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 1: Josh Ellen and what they do in terms of both 1150 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: the pass and the run game. Now you're adding another 1151 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: offensive weapon who has really dual threat ability at the 1152 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: running back position that can create matchup advantages for your offense. 1153 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: I love to pick love it he. I mean he. 1154 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: People are like, oh, they didn't get a receiver until 1155 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: round five, and we'll talk about you here in a second, 1156 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: because I think he's a sleeper in this class. But um, 1157 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: but Cook, who they take at the bottom around two, 1158 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: I would argue he diversed. He still fits the bill 1159 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: in terms of diversifying the Bills passing game. Well look 1160 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: what they try to do during a free agency Well, right, 1161 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: we saw it, right? Kiss? Yeah, I'm trying to get 1162 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: me a kissing. So they obviously wanted a running back 1163 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: with pass catching traits and not just a running back 1164 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: to run swings and ons. Okay, that that is fine 1165 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: at the running back position, but if you really want 1166 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: to threaten defenses, you want a running back who has 1167 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 1: pass catching traits and really some wide receiver traits to 1168 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: his game based on deployment, based on formation and alignment. 1169 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: And that's what James Cook gives this offense. I asked 1170 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: this question a Brandon being a minute ago. We've talked 1171 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: about positionless defensive players, you know, safety's linebacker hybrids. On offense, 1172 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: you get guys like Deebo Samuel's making a name for himself, 1173 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, doing a lot of things, obviously having a 1174 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver skill set, but then moving back lining up 1175 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: in the backfield. It puts a lot of pressure on 1176 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: a defense to make decisions about who they're going to 1177 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: cover and how. And a guy like Alvin Kamara and 1178 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: like James Cook. You know, that seems to be maybe 1179 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: a trend on the offensive side as well, where you 1180 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: get a guy who can you know, be a running 1181 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 1: back but have wide receiver skill set. I agree. And 1182 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 1: again you mentioned Deebo Samuel, how he's utilized Patterson in 1183 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta as well. Don't forget about the pre stamp scheme touches, 1184 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, the manufactured touches where you can use James 1185 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Cook on a fly sweep or a jet sweep, you 1186 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: can use him on a bubble screen, you can use 1187 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: him on a reverse. That gives your offense more options, 1188 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: that creates more stress for your defense. And again, where 1189 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,439 Speaker 1: they are lining up to doesn't necessarily mean, how they're 1190 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: going to be utilized on that specific play, all right, 1191 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: So flipping it over to the other side of the ball. 1192 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard their third round pick um a little undersized, 1193 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 1: but seems to have really good diagnosis skills and you 1194 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,959 Speaker 1: know the size. I only worry about it if they can't. Like, 1195 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna start this year. You've got 1196 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds and Matt Malone for good mis sakes. But 1197 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, in the in the event that he gets 1198 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: on the you know, on the field at linebacker, as 1199 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: long as they keep him clean, he's a hundred tackles. 1200 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: It's a given. Yeah, I agree with that he's got 1201 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: he's got sideline the sideline ranger, like I call it 1202 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 1: second level range. He can't keep diagnosed and run game. 1203 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I think he's got the foot quickness to match up 1204 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 1: with running backs out of the backfl You have to 1205 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: remember with Buffalo, no one in the NFL played more 1206 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: snaps of sub packers in terms of having five defensive 1207 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: backs in the field last year than the Buffalo Bills. 1208 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: That was their base defense last year. Okay, so you 1209 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: have to just start projecting for the future. I agree 1210 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: with you. He's not going to start over Mulano and 1211 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: Edmunds this season. He's gonna be a depth player for 1212 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: them this season. If someone misses a game or two, 1213 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: he can step in and being started, but immediately helps 1214 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: you on special teams. Linebackers and defensive backs who you draft, 1215 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: especially on Day two and Day three, have to be 1216 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,440 Speaker 1: impact special teams players. For one. That helps with development. 1217 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Steve knows is better than anyone. You have to play 1218 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: at top speed, and I think that is the ultimate 1219 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 1: teaching tool. But in terms of what he can do defensively, 1220 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 1: when you're playing with two linebackers on the field, can 1221 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,919 Speaker 1: he drop the hook to curl and closing the football, yes? 1222 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Can you read it out and get a jump on 1223 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: the ball. In terms of the run game, yes, can 1224 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: he match underneath to a running back? I believe he can. 1225 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: And then when you're talking about tight ends, and it's 1226 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: not necessarily true man coverage gets a tight end, but 1227 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: can you get to that bottom hit carry up the 1228 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: field on a seam route or a corner route when 1229 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: you have safety help on to the top. I think 1230 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: he gives that two you as well. So that's a 1231 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: depth pick that fits what they wanted to linebacker position, 1232 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: and I think it fits the modern day linebacker position 1233 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: and heaving versatility to defend both a run and pass game, 1234 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: and to be a core special teamer for you as well. 1235 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: And then we get to what was really the most 1236 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: surprising pick by the Bills. They trade up twenty spots 1237 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: to get Khalil Shakir. Talk a little bit about what 1238 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 1: you think his skill set is, and you know, Brandon 1239 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: Bean has already talked about, you know, how valuable they 1240 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: thought he is and was they were gonna get him 1241 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: with their fourth round pick that they traded away to 1242 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: jump up. So talk a little bit about Khalil Shakir. 1243 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a football player. That's the best way 1244 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: to describe him, right. He could do a lot of 1245 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: different things for him. I don't remember what his forty 1246 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,919 Speaker 1: time is. I don't care. I don't have his exact 1247 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: measurables in front of me. Again, I don't care, because 1248 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: he could turn on the tape and the guy consistently 1249 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: makes place. I think he's tough. I think he played 1250 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: with the physical element. He's got enough top ends beating 1251 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: to separate. He's got some nuance in terms of his 1252 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: route running ability. You look at Boys State and how 1253 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: he's utilized. He did everything for we're talking about James Cook, right, 1254 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: and how he can be deployed. Thinking about Shakir and 1255 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: that that offense, he can run the fly speed sweeps. 1256 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 1: You can put him in the backfield to release underneath 1257 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,959 Speaker 1: to create combination routes for your offense. I think he's tough. 1258 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 1: He'll work the dirty areas of the field. What I 1259 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: mean by that that's between the numbers and Steve. You know, 1260 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: when you go between the numbers in the NFL, it 1261 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: can get a little tough and there's a lot of 1262 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: traffic to work through, a lot of bodies around there. 1263 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 1: I think he's a perfect fit for that. What they 1264 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: want to do in terms of middle of the field throws, 1265 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: the ability to produce after the catch, what he's going 1266 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 1: to give you on special teams because that's a guy 1267 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: I would immediately target if on the special team's coach 1268 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: in Buffalo and say what can he do for us 1269 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 1: on our four course special teams because I know he's 1270 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: going to give max effort. And again I just go 1271 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: back to I think he's a football player. You find 1272 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: places for those guys on your ross because you know 1273 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: they will compete, they will produce, they will block in 1274 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: the run game, they'll do everything that's asked of you. 1275 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: And he's got enough plays on his college Satan said 1276 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: this is going to transition to the NFL in the 1277 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: right system, and they put him in the right system 1278 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Yeah. I mean his time speed at the 1279 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: combine was four to four to three, which is pretty good. 1280 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: He also has three siblings that all ran track in college. 1281 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, Matt, he was used all across 1282 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: the formation. And it's interesting that that's the case because 1283 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 1: being about four hours after drafting him, in his press 1284 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: conference after the draft, basically said they could envision him 1285 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: as their number four, basically backing up all three spots 1286 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: in the starting lineup. That was the same role they 1287 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 1: gave Gabe Davis as a rookie. So once I heard Dad, 1288 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: my ears perked up a lot. I mean, they just 1289 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 1: drafted the kid four hours ago. I think it just 1290 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: speaks to what they believe. His processing and his football 1291 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: IQ is right. I do any wide receiver who can 1292 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,439 Speaker 1: play all three spots, you have to have very high 1293 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: level football IQ. There's no question about it. Because the 1294 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: demand's put on you to know every spot. And again 1295 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: that goes back to versutility. I used to turn multidimensional traits. 1296 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the secondary on the show. Well, that 1297 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 1: applies every position, especially skilled position, and with secure, you're 1298 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: talking about someone who has multidimensional ability within your offense. 1299 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: Where you can play the ax, he can play the zu, 1300 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: put them inside in the slot. And then we talked 1301 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: earlier about the creativity he can bring in terms of 1302 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: the manufacturers or scheme touches. You find ways to get 1303 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: players like that. You want the football in your hands, 1304 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: and you work extra as a coach to come up 1305 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: with creative schemes to do that. Can we infer anything 1306 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,959 Speaker 1: from all of these wide receivers being taken, and really 1307 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 1: not just in this last draft, As Brownie alluded to, 1308 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: there are more receivers taken than any other position virtually, 1309 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: and the last three drafts have been the same. I 1310 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: mean they've been wide receiver heavier. They're getting teams are 1311 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: getting immediate impact from their wide receivers. And Brownie's made 1312 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: the point as well, there were like six or seven 1313 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: teams last year that carried six or seven receivers on 1314 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: game day or at least on their fifty three and 1315 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: certainly on their fifty three man roster. Do you sense 1316 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 1: a trend that way of maybe on game days more 1317 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: and more teams just saying, forget it, we're spreading them 1318 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: out and we're gonna deal with the past protection by 1319 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball quick, because you know everybody's 1320 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of getting rid of it quick now anyway. Are 1321 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: they just gonna say, listen, let's give our guy more 1322 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: options and spread the defense out so it's easier to read, 1323 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: is there? What do you think about the trend and 1324 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: maybe the evolution of the game going that way and 1325 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: maybe too far that way. I don't know if it's 1326 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna go too far that way. A good point because 1327 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of years on the matchup shelf, we 1328 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: went through the draft process and yes, you have your 1329 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 1: boundary X wide receivers, right, you're gonna have your X 1330 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You're gonna have your Z in your slot. 1331 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: We talked about that. But the wide receivers now that 1332 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 1: are more versatile extracure we call the motion movement targets. Okay, 1333 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 1: emotion movement targets are the players are gonna play a 1334 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: couple of different wide receiver spots that have that that 1335 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 1: flexibility to where you can give them handoffs in the backfield, 1336 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: you can get them loose on screens and in jet 1337 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: sweeps as well. So I think that's part of that 1338 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: seat is you're having more versatile players at the position 1339 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: you were carrying more in your rosters. One thing I 1340 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: would say is you can't forget about special teams, so 1341 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: you have to have wide receivers that can also cover kicks. 1342 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: You know they can play gunner, can be a jammer outside, 1343 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: can block on the front line of kickoff return, or 1344 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: have dynamic ability as a return. If I'm building a roster, yes, 1345 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,559 Speaker 1: I wanted to be deep at wide receiver, but once 1346 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I get pass really wide receiver four, if I'm going 1347 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,600 Speaker 1: to carry six, the number five and six better be 1348 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: very high level special teams producers for me as well. 1349 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 1: But I do think the league is trending to where 1350 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be eleven personnel. We're seeing more ten personnel. 1351 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 1: We've seen it in Buffalo before when you have four 1352 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: wide receivers in the field. So yes, the game is 1353 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: getting more spread out, and that goes back to what 1354 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about earlier with the safeties in the corners. 1355 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 1: How you counter that you have to have versatile players 1356 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,599 Speaker 1: there as well. Talking with the ESPN NFL analyst Matt 1357 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 1: bo and last one, I've got four of you. Matt 1358 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: concerns the corner from the small program Villanova Christian Vanford 1359 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: FCS level. But you know, when you're looking at a 1360 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: smaller school kid, you want to see him stand out. 1361 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 1: He did in terms of the accolades he received. What 1362 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: is it about his game that you think is going 1363 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: to give him a shot at the NFL level. A 1364 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: great point about someone at a lower level. You look 1365 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 1: for size, traits and production. Right, you expect him to 1366 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: make plays. If he's going to be an NFL draft 1367 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: pick and he's playing at a lower level, he should 1368 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: stand out when you watch out the take, you should 1369 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 1: be a couple of plays. You said that guy looks 1370 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 1: like an NFL prospect, and I think you saw that 1371 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: with him. A lot of on the ball production and 1372 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: what I mean about on the ball production, guys that 1373 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 1: may everyone talks about interceptions. I understand that in a 1374 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: bunch of PBUs last year on his college stape obviously 1375 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: had the interceptions. He's another corner guys who's six foot plus. Yeah. Right, 1376 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 1: And that's like we talked about with the league is trending. 1377 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 1: You want corners to have some length, one to be 1378 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,639 Speaker 1: able to play press, but two is to make plays 1379 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 1: in the football. And when you're a long corner you're 1380 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 1: breaking Let's say you know a fifteen yard endbreaker and 1381 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 1: you're funneling it from outside end. You have to have 1382 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: that long reach, that long frame to make a play 1383 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: on the ball. If you don't, you can secure the 1384 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 1: tackle and going to the next play, and that sometimes 1385 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 1: you need that, but you have to be able to 1386 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 1: make plays in the football. And his tape he made 1387 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,839 Speaker 1: a bunch of players, So I go back to the size, 1388 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,879 Speaker 1: the traits he has to play in a pro secondary, 1389 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 1: especially in this Bills secondary, and plus the production he 1390 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: put on tape and how he looks on tape. So 1391 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: that's a draftable prospect. And I think he went in 1392 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,879 Speaker 1: the rains where I expected him too. And that's another 1393 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 1: debt move from Buffalo. I've alway said this step you 1394 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 1: mentioned wide receiver. I don't think you can never have 1395 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: too many defensive backs. I don't with amount of sub 1396 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 1: package that Buffalo plays, playing an extra game of the season. 1397 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 1: What they provide in terms of being a fifth or 1398 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 1: sixth defensive back of the field, but also your special 1399 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 1: teams unit. You can never have enough defensive bats, never 1400 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: because matchups changed, matchup change. We talked about earlier with Elam, 1401 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: could he be a tight end matchup player? Well, when 1402 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,400 Speaker 1: you draft young players who start to think about that, 1403 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, are they exclusively an outside corner? Can we 1404 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: play them insider? Is there are a certain tight end 1405 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: that they can match up to? Is it a flex 1406 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 1: tight end that always plays in the slot that we 1407 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: can match them up to? Then you start to develop 1408 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 1: them in a veteran defensive back room. I think it's 1409 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 1: a really strong pick and someone that you can grow 1410 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 1: within your own system. How likely is it that a 1411 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: player and we've been we talked about a lot in 1412 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: the lead up. This is a really deep and talented 1413 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 1: roster in Buffalo that the expectations in Buffalo this year 1414 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: are higher than any team in the league. They are 1415 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: absolutely expected to go to and compete for the Super Bowl. 1416 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: How likely is it that you know guys like James, 1417 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: James Cook and Elam, all these guys you know, uh Terrell, 1418 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 1: Bernard Khalil, Shakir Matt Ariza. Certainly Ariza will probably be 1419 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 1: on the fifty three. How likely is it that the 1420 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 1: guys behind those guys, you know that Christian Benford's of 1421 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the world will be on this roster, at least on 1422 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. Certainly they are. They're all 1423 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: candidates for the practice squad. But how hard is it. 1424 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen it a good team. It's hard 1425 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 1: to make fifty three man rosters, it is. But that's 1426 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: what you want, right Steve. You want competition at every position, 1427 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,640 Speaker 1: and I agree with you in the expectations. When the 1428 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 1: team goes out and signs Von Miller, Okay, that tells 1429 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 1: me that you are putting together a team to beat 1430 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, to beat all the high level quarterbacks in 1431 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: the a FC, because you believe you have a win 1432 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: now roster that can win the Super Bowl. If I'm 1433 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: making a pick right now, and again we're not even 1434 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 1: in really in mini camps, or Ota said. But if 1435 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm making a pick right now for the AFC, there's 1436 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: no question it's the Buffalo Bills. There's no question based 1437 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: on what Josh did last year, and I know they 1438 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: didn't get to win against Kansas City. But I thought 1439 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 1: that game for Josh was defining game of his career 1440 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 1: so far, defining game because that put him in the group. 1441 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's also the entire season of take but 1442 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 1: that game right there, I said, Josh Allen's a scheme 1443 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: transcendent quarterback. What I mean by that, someone that can 1444 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 1: function and produce in any offense you want to design 1445 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 1: around him. He can do it. That's up there with 1446 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, It's up there with Aaron Rodgers. That level 1447 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 1: will play. And then you add Von Miller. You go 1448 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: to this draft class right now, that will make it 1449 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 1: even more competitive, and that's what you want. You want 1450 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,919 Speaker 1: to draft guys that can come in and push veterans 1451 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: for playing time immediately, because that's gonna make training camp 1452 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 1: this much more competitive environment, much more high level energy environment. 1453 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: And then you have better practices, you have more competition 1454 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 1: to get in the field the preseason games, and you're 1455 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,639 Speaker 1: gonna build a stronger roster because you're gonna need that roster. 1456 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 1: You get through seventeen games and when you get to 1457 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: the postseason tournament, that AFC is loaded. It is loaded, 1458 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 1: so you're gonna need as much depth as you can. Matt. 1459 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for all the insight. We appreciate it. We'll catch 1460 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: you up with you down the line. All right, thanks Matt. 1461 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you very much. Go Bills. Yeah. Indeed, ESPN, 1462 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 1: NFL and US Matt Bowen joining us here with his 1463 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: post draft review, not only the draft at large, but 1464 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: the Bills class as well. We take a break here, 1465 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 1: but when we come back, we will get some of 1466 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the tweet sheet where we're asking you 1467 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 1: how would you grade the Bills twenty twenty two draft 1468 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 1: class and why? That's coming up next. You're on one 1469 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,439 Speaker 1: Bill's line, presented by Colloid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1470 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back time for your grade for the Bills twenty 1471 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 1: twenty two draft class and why. And we go to 1472 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet for those answers. Brought to you by 1473 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the 1474 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,759 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And Jeremy leads us off and he says, 1475 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 1: I would say this draft is an as love love 1476 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 1: love the top two picks. I'm unsure of pick three, 1477 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 1: and the rest of the class is solid. Love the 1478 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 1: punt god. You know why. He loves the punt God 1479 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 1: because the guy's got a nickname. That's right. But Steve, 1480 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 1: your theory about the power of having a nickname on 1481 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 1: your draft stock took a bit of a hit this weekend. 1482 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,720 Speaker 1: But I think Punk God had a nickname, and he's 1483 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,439 Speaker 1: the third punter I know, but it's not like a 1484 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Stout and Jake Camardo went before him. Right, I'm 1485 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 1: not sure that you know Punk God is really all 1486 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: that good nick nickname. I think it's it's gotta be 1487 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 1: a catchy nickname, and there's a gray area there. There 1488 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: is another one out there, for for Matt Ariza if 1489 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,439 Speaker 1: you've seen it, no Legatron. Well see now, if it 1490 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: was Legatron, the guy goes is the first punter taken. 1491 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 1: So it's the quality of the nickname in addition to yes, 1492 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 1: absolutely just having any old nickname, if it's catchy and 1493 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: that and all that, it certainly absolutely boost your stock draft. 1494 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 1: Look at this guy didn't even call him a rise. 1495 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 1: He calls him the punk God. He loves him, that's yeah. 1496 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: But I do think Legotron is a stronger nickname than 1497 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 1: it is. Legatron is way strong, isn't it. Then it's 1498 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 1: it's a winner, all the way, all the way, William says, 1499 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I give him a being. I think they were too 1500 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 1: indecisive in the second round. Yeah, they landed a pretty 1501 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 1: good running back prospect, but I don't think he was 1502 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 1: the prospect they were after trading the fourth to move 1503 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 1: up in the first round. I think hurt them a 1504 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 1: little bit on Day three. All right, so let's dissect 1505 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: this because there's a lot to unpack in that comment. 1506 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Number one, it's not a matter of being indecisive in 1507 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,639 Speaker 1: the second round. Brandon Bean was on with us last hour, 1508 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: but he explained this morning with Jeremy on WGR that 1509 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 1: the reason they traded down twice was for this reason. 1510 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 1: They were sitting there at fifty seven and they had 1511 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: five players they were comfortable drafting at fifty seven, so 1512 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 1: they said, let's try to get some picks back. We 1513 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 1: just lost our fourth with the trade up in the 1514 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 1: first round. Let's slide back at some more draft capital, 1515 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 1: because we know, with five guys we like on the 1516 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: board right now, we're gonna get we moved back three 1517 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: picks later, we're still getting one of them, right, So 1518 01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,439 Speaker 1: they slide back to sixty when they get to their 1519 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,800 Speaker 1: pick at sixty, those five guys are still all on 1520 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 1: the board, none of them have gone, so they say, 1521 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: let's move back again and get some more draft capital. 1522 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,879 Speaker 1: You heard Brandon here on our show Last Hours say, hey, 1523 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,920 Speaker 1: we kind of liked the value at the back end 1524 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 1: of the draft, so if we can get some extra 1525 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 1: sixes or something, let's move back again. So they move 1526 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 1: back another three spots, and then at that point between 1527 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 1: pick sixty and pick sixty three, one of the guys 1528 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: that they had on their list of five did come 1529 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: off the board, and that's when Brandon said, let's not 1530 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,600 Speaker 1: get too cute here, let's take Cook. So there was 1531 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 1: no indecision there. It was a matter of having a 1532 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 1: multitude of options and being able to accumulate draft capital 1533 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 1: while still being able to get a guy they liked 1534 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:47,600 Speaker 1: at that spot. As for your second contention, trading the 1535 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 1: fourth to move up in the first round hurt them 1536 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. On day three. If you just heard 1537 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,679 Speaker 1: with Brandon Bean said here on our show at the top, 1538 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,640 Speaker 1: Khalil Shaker, who they took in the fifth round and 1539 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 1: moved up twenty spots to get there, have taken the 1540 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 1: fourth round. Yeah, they would have taken him in the fourth, 1541 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 1: So it ended up not hurting them because they would 1542 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 1: have taken him had he been available at the what 1543 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,680 Speaker 1: what spot was it? The eighty and the one they 1544 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 1: had pick one thirty one, they would have taken him 1545 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:19,000 Speaker 1: at one thirty rather than one forty or one eight. Yes, 1546 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: so they in essence moved up the fourth spots to 1547 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 1: drop down eighteen spots and get their same get the 1548 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,439 Speaker 1: same guy in the fifth round. So I do I do. 1549 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,880 Speaker 1: I will say this you don't care about particularly given 1550 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: the fact that you got a guy you would have 1551 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 1: taken anyway with a pick you traded. Uh. If James 1552 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 1: Cook turns out to be the guy nobody's gonna carry, 1553 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,679 Speaker 1: you traded up force you know, you traded up twenty 1554 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 1: spots to get him, or they were traded back three 1555 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 1: times to get him and picked up those spots. Um, yeah, 1556 01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 1: it's it's impossible to evaluate how well or how bad 1557 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 1: it went. You can only say how you feel about 1558 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 1: how it went today. Even even uh, Brandon bean is 1559 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 1: you know you got They got to feel good about 1560 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,559 Speaker 1: the guys they got. They got the right ones at 1561 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: the right time. They actually got out a little break 1562 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 1: when when Shakier fell to them at one forty eight. 1563 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,640 Speaker 1: They felt really good about that, so they you know, 1564 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,600 Speaker 1: they could cruise on the way through the rest of 1565 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,520 Speaker 1: the draft. Got a punter, the whole, the whole kitten kaboodle. 1566 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 1: But it's only a great draft if all these guys 1567 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 1: end up being really good. Well, well, the going you 1568 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: do the best you can. It looks okay. But they say, 1569 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: if you get three starters out of every draft class, 1570 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 1: not right away, like after two or three years. If 1571 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 1: you have three starters out of that draft class, you're 1572 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 1: doing pretty good. If you have four, it's like hitting 1573 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,160 Speaker 1: a Grand Slam, right If you hit four, that's that's 1574 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of a magic number. The Bills have gotten had 1575 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 1: drafts where they've gotten contributions and picked really good players, 1576 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 1: even at a higher rate than that. The eighteen or 1577 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the seventeen draft, for instance, seventeen guys, six to seven 1578 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 1: of them are still in the league, and there's a 1579 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 1: couple of All pros in there. Um, not all of them, 1580 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the White Teller is an All Pro 1581 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: for the Browns. But man o man, yeah, uh yeah, 1582 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 1: they've they've had some good draft history. Here Seth on 1583 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 1: the tweet, she says, just give him an a got 1584 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 1: the guy we needed in Elam, and I believe he 1585 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,600 Speaker 1: has a higher ceiling than twenty seven did coming in. 1586 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 1: Cook and Shakier could prove to be stars, solid contributors 1587 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,719 Speaker 1: as rookies at least like the linebacker picks for special teams, 1588 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,800 Speaker 1: and of course the pun god Benford will push Dane 1589 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 1: for CB three seems to be a ballhawk. All right, 1590 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: So first, pretty bold statement there, Kayer Elam has a 1591 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 1: higher ceiling coming in than Tredavious White who started from 1592 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 1: day one. Now where where Elam has data? But yeah, 1593 01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:00,799 Speaker 1: where Elam has Tradavious is in height, length, and speed. 1594 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 1: He is taller, longer, and faster. So those physical traits 1595 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 1: probably do give him a higher ceiling. Now it's up 1596 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 1: to him as to what he does with it. But 1597 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,719 Speaker 1: you heard Brandon Bean after he drafted him on night one, 1598 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 1: he said Kayer has a similar personality and approach to 1599 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:23,120 Speaker 1: the game as Trudavious. If that's the case, he could 1600 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 1: be something special. Absolutely. Yeah, he's got the raw talent 1601 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 1: and the physical abilities to have you know, there is 1602 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,559 Speaker 1: no hot top end, right, I mean, he's one of 1603 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 1: the He's big, long, strong, really fast and he's committed, smart, 1604 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 1: really articulate, professional at a young age, mature, committed, mature 1605 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,559 Speaker 1: at a young age. If you get a chance to 1606 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 1: go look at the embedded Bills fans will go, you know, 1607 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: spend some time on the Bills website, go to the 1608 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,080 Speaker 1: embedded thing and watch the behind the scenes interview that 1609 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,200 Speaker 1: the Bills did, the combined interview they did with Elam. 1610 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't know that he's gonna be 1611 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,839 Speaker 1: a Bill after that, you're you haven't been paying attention. 1612 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he said all the right things, and they 1613 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 1: all came across as being uncoached, genuine and hey, this 1614 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 1: is where I'm at. That's an interview that it could 1615 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 1: not have gone better. If a Bill Bills fan watches that, 1616 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 1: you're all taking him, you're all drafting him, so his 1617 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 1: and his eye end, his athleticism. I mean, we had 1618 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 1: the thing. He was the guy that was the toolsy one. 1619 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 1: Do you take a toolsy guy or a scheme fit? 1620 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 1: This is the guy they took was toolsy And I 1621 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,200 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about his characters, work ethic, the note taking, 1622 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 1: he does, the film study, the self evaluation, Oh my gosh, 1623 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the total package. Yes, he is everything 1624 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 1: to me coming out of Florida rather than LSU. He's 1625 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 1: everything Turdavious White was when they drafted him, and they 1626 01:22:55,120 --> 01:23:01,720 Speaker 1: got him at twenty three rather than Turdavius was eight seven. Yea, yeah, day, 1627 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 1: So there you go. Um, it's there's a lot of 1628 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 1: reasons to be really high on Kaire. He also said 1629 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Cook and Shaqire could prove to be stars, solid contributors 1630 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 1: as rookies. At least I would agree with that. Um, 1631 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: he likes the linebackers for special teams, and he thinks 1632 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 1: Benford will push for a roster spot. I don't know 1633 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 1: if he's gonna push Dane Jackson for CB three, but 1634 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,759 Speaker 1: I could see him pushing for a roster spot against 1635 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 1: the likes of Cam Lewis, Nick McLeod, you know those guys. Yeah, yeah, 1636 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: I could see him doing that. I mean, as we 1637 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 1: just talked about with Matt Bowen, when you're playing FCS 1638 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,640 Speaker 1: level football, you better have some impressive production. Forty one 1639 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,480 Speaker 1: pass breakups and fourteen picks. That's pretty good. Impressive now impressive, 1640 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,720 Speaker 1: So those are those are unbelievable numbers. And and the 1641 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 1: best part about him is he's got the size. He's 1642 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 1: six feet, he's one ninety two. I mean he's just 1643 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 1: as big as Kaire almost. Yeah, run is fast. He's 1644 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 1: like a four or five guy, but he's got production. 1645 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,760 Speaker 1: So he's gonna be fun to watch. It's kind of 1646 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 1: an underdog and you know, yeah, and he's right. I mean, 1647 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 1: you've got to think Elam and Cook, they're gonna be 1648 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:21,160 Speaker 1: on the field taking snaps in games, and and Ball's 1649 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna go to Cook and he'll probably go at Eliam 1650 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,880 Speaker 1: Elam as well. They're they're gonna be on at the point. 1651 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna get to know these guys. That's 1652 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 1: those top two guys for sure. Christopher says Matt Ariza 1653 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,640 Speaker 1: and Matt Hawk should be fun. With Matt Smiley as 1654 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,719 Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator. We're definitely going to the Matt, 1655 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 1: But the most fun camp battle might be Canna rise 1656 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 1: upon farther than Alan can throw. People are obsessed with 1657 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: this now, um overall great draft. Can't wait to see 1658 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 1: this team come together. How about Ken Dorsey all the 1659 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: new all the new toys he's got. Yeah, it'll it'll 1660 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,760 Speaker 1: be fun for him to put that together. And you 1661 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:06,160 Speaker 1: know they're he's in a tough spot, is he. Yeah, 1662 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: the pressures on, well, they can't stumble there. There is 1663 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 1: no excuse, absolutely no excuse for them not to be 1664 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 1: one of the top scoring teams offenses in the league period, 1665 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,560 Speaker 1: just and if they aren't, there's no place else to 1666 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:24,800 Speaker 1: delay the blame to it, but at the feet of 1667 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. I mean that's just because whether it's 1668 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 1: true or not, I mean, he could you know, might 1669 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 1: be injuries, could be a million things. We've all seen it. 1670 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 1: But man oh man, at this point, Yeah, I'm just 1671 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: thinking of all the personnel packages they could throw out 1672 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 1: on the field and you don't know what they're gonna do. Yeah. Yeah, 1673 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 1: Like we were just talking about with Brandon, you put 1674 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: twenty two personnel out there with cook in Singletary in 1675 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,719 Speaker 1: the backfield, and you put Knox and Howard a tight end. Yeah, 1676 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,400 Speaker 1: it could be a power formation conceivably, Right, So if 1677 01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,160 Speaker 1: you're putting linebackers on the field, now you split Cook 1678 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,439 Speaker 1: out your hose, dude, Well, if you split cookout or 1679 01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 1: split Oj Howard out for knocks, you forget how athletic 1680 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:07,400 Speaker 1: Howard Howard is a can scoot. Yeah, it's a problem. 1681 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 1: It's a matchup night. It's a problem, it really is. 1682 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that the scouting report on OJ Howard, 1683 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's been a little bit nicked up over 1684 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and that's you know, the 1685 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,800 Speaker 1: Bucks brought in Gronk and Brady has a lot to 1686 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,840 Speaker 1: say about that, and I get it. So maybe he 1687 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 1: got squeezed out. But man o man, coming out of 1688 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:32,280 Speaker 1: Alabama as a rookie, OJ Howard was sought at. He 1689 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 1: was lights out measurables. You heard Josh Allen. And he's 1690 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: a big dude. And not only is he a big dude, 1691 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,080 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's fast. So it'll be interesting to see 1692 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 1: how they use him. We will take a break here. 1693 01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll take a minute to assess 1694 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 1: the AFC East post draft. Jets had a lot of picks, 1695 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,719 Speaker 1: made a lot of good ones. What did the Dolphins 1696 01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,800 Speaker 1: do and where might the Patriots end up in the 1697 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 1: division this year or what they did Wolf with a 1698 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 1: capital W. We'll get to that when we return here 1699 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,719 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo 1700 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:23,200 Speaker 1: Bills Radio, all right. So, in assessing the rest of 1701 01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 1: the AFC East in the draft. I would say of 1702 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 1: the three other teams in the division, the Jets were 1703 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 1: the clear winner. Now, granted they had about twelve picks 1704 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 1: to use, but they come out of the draft with 1705 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,560 Speaker 1: one of the best corners in the class, one of 1706 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 1: the best receivers in the class. I know you're going 1707 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 1: to argue this, but one of the better pass rushers 1708 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,960 Speaker 1: in the class, and the top running back in the class. 1709 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 1: They also get a decent tight end and Jeremy Ruckert, 1710 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,440 Speaker 1: the Long Island kid, goes to play for his hometown team. 1711 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,080 Speaker 1: And then they finish up with the tackle on another 1712 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 1: pass rusher late. But their top four draft choices are 1713 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 1: going to be on the field a ton. Oh yeah, 1714 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 1: as you would expect, yes, because their roster isn't as 1715 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,920 Speaker 1: strong as Bill's roster and they yeah, and they you know, 1716 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: they traded back into the first to get the past rusher. Yeah, 1717 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:18,799 Speaker 1: John Um. Yeah, the Jets were busy. And it's interesting 1718 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: too because it's so unusual and so, you know, you 1719 01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,800 Speaker 1: kind of get used to it a little bit of 1720 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 1: it's a little overdone. But the Jets have struggled in 1721 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 1: the draft. They've done some stuff that it's like like 1722 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots did that. You know, Joe Douglas did a 1723 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,760 Speaker 1: nice job. I thought he did too, you gotta admit it, 1724 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,240 Speaker 1: and made the most of the Jamal Adams straight. Yeah, 1725 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 1: they and they are really reaping some benefits from that. 1726 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 1: So even Bill's fans, who you know, could not possibly 1727 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,160 Speaker 1: care less or wish worst things on the on the 1728 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Jets than they do. You gotta admit they got it together. 1729 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 1: And you can either it's Joe Douglas and Robert Sala 1730 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,240 Speaker 1: and the way they draft and the way they're looking 1731 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,200 Speaker 1: at things is completely different than the way it has been. 1732 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:55,840 Speaker 1: But man, oh man, it's hard to poke holes and 1733 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 1: what they did because they're in the same boat as 1734 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 1: everybody else. So you get to a certain spot, Yeah, 1735 01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 1: you gotta pick somebody or you gotta trade out. And 1736 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: if you can't trade out, well, there you go. You 1737 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,559 Speaker 1: gotta make the pick. Dolphins didn't do a whole lot 1738 01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 1: since they made the Tyreek Hill trade. They didn't have 1739 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 1: a one or or two. They did take Channing Tindall 1740 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,240 Speaker 1: in the third round. As for the Patriots, what are 1741 01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: they doing. I'm just gonna say this right now. With 1742 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 1: the way these teams are going, New England's going down. 1743 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: They might be in last place. We'll see you tomorrow.