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Speaker 2: John middle Cough. This is three and Out podcast, and

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Speaker 2: hopefully you're doing well out there in the real world,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully you're not in an area that's too cold.

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Speaker 2: and let's enjoy football because we only have three games

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Speaker 2: We have obviously a lot on the line. So what

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Speaker 2: I did is, I said, you know what, let's just

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Speaker 2: And I just listed things and I went in kind

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to look at just what's online for

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Speaker 2: rattle through it. Obviously it's Fugazi Friday. I need to

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Speaker 2: So we'll dive into that and then Stucky will join

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Speaker 2: sent me stuff for mail bag questions. We will probably

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Speaker 2: So let's just dive in. I guess let's just start.

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Speaker 2: The headline is going to be who has the most again?

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Speaker 2: Because you win this weekend, you're off to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You have the opportunity to change your life forever, right

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Speaker 2: you become a super Bowl champ. And the headliners in

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Speaker 2: I just wrote down the things that fascinate and interest

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Speaker 2: seriously because he did a bunch of losing even though

427
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: he was with an absolute clown organization like what are

428
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: the worst organizations in all of professional sports, which again

429
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: to someone young, sounds a little crazier. Now it's like, well,

430
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: this Dan Campbell's success version that they've had where they

431
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: just went nine to eight and it feels like a disaster.

432
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: Nine and eight ten years ago with the Lions would

433
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: have been a massive, massive win, even though they only

434
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: played sixteen games, so the number would have been eight

435
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: to eight. But you know what I mean, And I

436
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: just think Matt Stafford got to a real team with

437
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: a real coach and a real structure and started to

438
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: kick ass and take names. He's probably gonna win the MVP,

439
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: and if he won the Super Bowl, have two rings

440
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: in like less than five years. I think you would

441
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: ask yourself, Like, would he retire? I googled today he's

442
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: made over four hundred million dollars in his career. That's

443
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: only by teams. He's been pretty marketable since he's been

444
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: with the Rams, so he's made a ton off the

445
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: field as well. Like he has made a boatload of

446
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: money at this age in his late thirties. He's on

447
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: a one year contract. Like what else would he have

448
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: to prove? This would really validate everything, Not that anyone

449
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: questioned when they made the trade. But and Jared Goffs

450
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: worked out pretty well for the Lions as well. But

451
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even be able to argue who won that

452
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: bad boy. Now you could make the argument that the

453
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: moment the Rams won the Super Bowl, they one locked

454
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: it up. But like the Lions have been a consistent

455
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: playoff team. Last year they were the one seed. The

456
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: previous year they were in the NFC Championship Game. But

457
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: you win two Super Bowls. I have to wonder if

458
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford would seriously contemplate retiring. He's had back issues.

459
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just taking a lot of hits in

460
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: his career. He's obviously got a young family. He just

461
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: watched his boy, Clayton Kershaw kind of go out on top.

462
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: You have to wonder if that would factor in, which

463
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: then would be obviously something we would talk about this offseasons,

464
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: like well, who would be Would the Rams do a

465
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: quarterback that is a problem they would gladly try to

466
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: in a couple weeks if they win the Super Bowl.

467
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 2: If you, Sean McVeigh right now, would gladly sign up

468
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: two more wins Stafford retires, then Stafford returns and you

469
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: lose this week and last. But about Lee, Sean McVay,

470
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: he would join pretty rare company of guys with multiple

471
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: super Bowl rings. I look today, he turns forty in

472
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: a couple days. If he just makes the Super Bowl,

473
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: he will have made three super Bowls at forty years old.

474
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: Think how crazy that would be? Three super Bowls. I

475
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: mean technically, as I'm recording this, he's thirty nine years old.

476
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: Just having the opportunity to get back at thirty nine

477
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: years old, to have this much success. I think early

478
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: on people push back, like everyone's blowing McVeigh talking about

479
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh, who just got five years, one hundred million dollars,

480
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl almost fifteen years ago, has not

481
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: been back to one, right. We just saw him in

482
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game a couple of years at home

483
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: lose with the MVP at quarterback. So and we all agree,

484
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: like John Harbaugh is a really good coach. That's a

485
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: great hire for the Giants. Sean McVay is gonna go

486
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: to three before John Harbaugh is sixty three years old.

487
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean, think of he would be in a little

488
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: bit of a situation and these TV networks, Amazon would

489
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: kick herbit Street to the heart of the sidewalk in

490
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: a heartbeat to get Sean McVay. Sean McVay would get

491
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: to the point where he'd have so much money, so

492
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: much success, Like what's he doing this all for? He's

493
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: just gonna try to win like four now. And if

494
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: Stafford retired, could McVeigh just be like, I'm gonna take

495
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: a couple of years off. Maybe I'll even come back

496
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: to the Rams, but I need to take a breather,

497
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: you know. And I think Sean McVay could join a list.

498
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: You know, clearly, Andy, these last couple of years, multiple

499
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: time Super Bowl winner Belichick's the most famous has the

500
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: six You know, when I was a kid in the nineties,

501
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: everyone talked about Bill Walsh and Bill Parcells parcels one two,

502
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: Walsh one three. Seaford technically won two more even though

503
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: most people like give Bill Walsh Moore the credit. Like

504
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: people talk about Bill Walsh like he won the four.

505
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: But Seaford, you know, he retired in eighty eight, which

506
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: I think he regretted obviously. Mike Shanahan became, you know,

507
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: a legendary figure in the Lway career when they went

508
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: back to back. We've had a lot of really good coaches,

509
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean legends, Harbaugh, Tomlin, like guys that won Super

510
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: Bowl changes the course of your life, changes the course

511
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: of the way. We discussed you right, Look, Bruce Arians

512
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: won the won the Corona Super Bowl, and we speak

513
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: about Brady and Bruce Arians and Tampa Bay winning that

514
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So Sean McVay would have two. It would

515
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: be And listen, sucky and I discussed this. Whoever wins

516
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: this game, depending on who their opponent is, is a

517
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: big favorite in the Super Bowl. And if Jared Stidham

518
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: is able to put this off, they would be a

519
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: massive favorite in the Super Bowl. So like Sean McVay,

520
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: whoever can get through this, But specifically McVeigh. People are

521
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: gonna be picking him to win his second and unlike Stafford,

522
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: like Stafford's career is really in two parts. It's like

523
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: the Lion's part where he was making a ton of money.

524
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: Guys like Rogers were trying and like pro scouts like

525
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this guy's really good, and all fans

526
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: were like, wait, he loses all the time. He throws

527
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of interceptions. Rogers like, I'm telling you, he's

528
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: ever been as good as me. He just plays for

529
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: the shitty team. Never forget Aaron Rodgers was the one

530
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: guy who was always pounding the table for Matt Stafford

531
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: throughout the twenty tens, and then McVeigh and Shanahan fought

532
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: over trading for him, and McVeigh got him and clearly

533
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: changed the course of his life. Now, could McVeigh have

534
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: pulled one off with Goff, Maybe, but at the time

535
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: of their relationship it was so fractured that they had

536
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: to go the other way no matter what. But I

537
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: think that we've just never seen anything quite like this

538
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: young for pat Riley winning with the Lakers. But pretty sure,

539
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think pat Riley was this young

540
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: you know, had won those NBA championships before he was forty,

541
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: so you do something like that at this age. There's

542
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: a reason when you see these interviews like who are

543
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: they interviewing? How old is this guy? People want the

544
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: next this And here's the reality. There's usually one Bezos,

545
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: there's usually one Elon, there's usually one Tiger. There's like

546
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: one Sean McVay. They're not growing on trees, they don't.

547
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: He's a pretty unique individual and there'd be no disputing

548
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: it if he not just wins this game on the

549
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: road in Seattle would be one of the biggest wins

550
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: of his career. But then at that game at Levi's,

551
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: being able to win his second Super Bowl at the

552
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: home of his former mentor how Shanahan, who obviously arrival,

553
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: would be a pretty big moment for the guys. I mean, honestly,

554
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: Seattle or the Rams winning that game at Levi's would

555
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: sting a little bit to Kyle Well, but yeah, he'd

556
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: have two, kylet have none, So it'd be hard to discuss,

557
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Like when we're discussing the top young offensive coaches that

558
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: there would be Sean mcnerny or Sean McVay. Would kind

559
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: of be on a level by himself. I mean, shit,

560
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: he'd be one behind Andy Reid think about that. So

561
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna be fascinating to watch. I'm I'm really excited

562
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: because we only got sixty one. We only got one

563
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty minutes left of football. One hundred and

564
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: eighty minutes left the football and they say anywhere between

565
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: like eleven to twelve minutes of actual game time, So

566
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: you're talking under forty minutes left of actual action on

567
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: the field. So we got to enjoy it before we

568
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: dive into sucky. Though. I do want to hit on

569
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 2: a couple of fugazi's and I was adamant when we

570
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: were building the the baby's room and loading it with clothes.

571
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: I just thought we were on drugs. I said, in

572
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 2: what world can a baby who's still in your belly

573
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: have this many clothes? Honestly, you could have made the

574
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 2: argument if we went clothes for clothes, like piece of

575
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: individual clothing, he might have had more than me. And

576
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: I don't even obviously wear that many clothes. I have

577
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: the majority of my wardrobe never gets put on, especially

578
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: like sports coats and hell, I don't even wear jeans

579
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: that often. But I was wrong because anyone listening to

580
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: this with the newborn baby or have gone through that stage,

581
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: they go through ten to twelve pieces of clothing. I

582
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: mean they are pissing and shitting all over themselves at

583
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: every hour, starting in the morning, through the afternoon, through

584
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: dinnertime through the night. You are constantly just taking clothes,

585
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: throwing it on the ground, grabbing a new piece of

586
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: fresh clothing with a diaper, and redressing your baby. And

587
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: there is shit and piss everywhere, and what's weird. My

588
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: wife used to always make fun of me because I

589
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: would never hold other people's babies. In full disclosure, I

590
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: was always a little nervous one. I didn't want the

591
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: pressure if I dropped the or whatever, and then you

592
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: start holding your own baby. I actually took the the mindset.

593
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: It's like golfers deal. I'm not gonna play Augusta until

594
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: I make the Masters. Now I would gladly. I'd play

595
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Augusta if anyone listening this as a member there and

596
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: wants to take me in the h when it's open,

597
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: I am more than game. But it just kind of happened.

598
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: The first baby I truly held, not that I didn't

599
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: hold little kids. I have nephews, and my cousins have kids,

600
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: and my friends have kids, but like truly just constantly

601
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: holding a baby, and you just realize, like how am

602
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: I gonna do this? The diapers, the changing, the wiping,

603
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: it becomes second nature. You start being like a pit

604
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: crew on f one or Nascar like bo. But it's

605
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: just the constant clothing. So I was wrong. The amount

606
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: of clothes that feel, especially to a guy, a little outrageous,

607
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: is probably not because you are going to fire through

608
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: the inventory and that little kid is going to dominate

609
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: and I repeat dominate the washer and dryer. You're kind

610
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: of whatever your rotation was to wash your gym clothes,

611
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: your normal clothes. Get in line, buddy, because you're gonna

612
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: have no shot. You were gonna be waiting in line,

613
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: and then whenever you think it's your turn, he's gonna

614
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: have more stuff going there or she. So I was

615
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: wrong about that. You need a lot of clothes, you

616
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 2: really do. And you go through diapers. No clue how

617
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: much a bag of diapers costs, but you go through

618
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: a lot. They are just getting worked. I mean dominated

619
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: that kid can blow out a diaper like any kid

620
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: just on repeat, which is good. You find out from

621
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: the doctor. You know, you gotta get those bowel movements

622
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: you get. You gotta get that, you know, the the

623
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: bad stuff working in and out, and he is. So

624
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: it's a good problem to have. And the other thing

625
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: is I am a big believer, and I tell people this, like,

626
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm not one of those guys who can work fresh

627
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: on three or four hours of sleep. Like I do

628
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: need sleep. And there are some people that you know

629
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: don't need much sleep and can operate a high level.

630
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: We all know him, right, Some people can wake up

631
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: at the crack of dawn. I remember a buddy of

632
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: mine who worked on Gruden staff. I was like, what

633
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: time does he actually get to the office. So I

634
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: it's true, he's there, you know, before five am. They're like,

635
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: but his secret is he ain't burning the midnight oil.

636
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: He's out of there an hour after dinner, which makes sense.

637
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: You can't start work at three forty five and be

638
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: kicking ass at nine o'clock at night. You start, you

639
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: start dipping. He's like, he's out of there, right. So

640
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: some people we all work different schedules, but there are

641
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: times when we just don't have a choice, right, and

642
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: I've been someone who's been a pretty consistent sleep routine.

643
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: As I've gotten old, especially in my thirties, is life.

644
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: You get a little more serious about life. You're not

645
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: screwing around during the week, You're not just up randomly

646
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: for no reason. You got you know, your career starts

647
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: being at a different level. You gotta focus up. I'm

648
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: in bed between nine thirty and ten and usually out

649
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: between ten and ten thirty and up, depending on what

650
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: time I go to bed, sometime between five forty five

651
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: to six thirty range, despite sometimes during the season when

652
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: we're working late, me sleeping a little bit longer. But

653
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: my routine's been bang bang bang bang. I'm a routine guy.

654
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: I thrive in routine. I hate the unknown, the outer routine. Well,

655
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: when we went to meet this pediatrician, he's like, one

656
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: piece of advice I will give you is you kind

657
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: of gotta let go. You have to embrace whatever your

658
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: routine is. You're gonna have to work around it because

659
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: the baby has no routine. And the one thing you

660
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: realize is, like, my sleep's all over the place. Last night,

661
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: I was reading that Laker article at two thirty in

662
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: the morning in bed wide awake and and get up

663
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: at eight o'clock and you're fine because you don't have

664
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: a choice. You have to be And watching my wife

665
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: get up at four am to feed them and then

666
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: not really go back to bed and back out of

667
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: bed at seven, it's like you just kind of power through.

668
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: And a lot of people have said, like, listen, this

669
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: too shall pass, and you'll get through it, and you'll

670
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: smile about this. And the first couple of days, I

671
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: was pissed off and like, this fucking sucks. I need

672
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: some sleep. My head's not there, And you kind of

673
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: realize part of any situation is where you put yourself mentally,

674
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 2: like you just gotta embrace it. Just embrace it. Obviously,

675
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: there are times when you get frustrated when you just

676
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: change a diaper and you're ready to set them down.

677
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: It's midnight and you think, hey, we're gonna go to bed.

678
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, you hear just a massive

679
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: fart that's wet, and you're like, oh my god, it's

680
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: all over the clothes. You gotta rechange it, and when

681
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: you wipe me start screaming. I've just kind of embraced it,

682
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: And the last couple of days have been much better

683
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: because you're not gonna sleep that much. But guess what

684
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people in a situation when they're not

685
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: sleeping that much, if you're bitter about it and angry,

686
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna suck. And uh again, I'm five days in

687
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: or six days in what was the other's last If

688
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: you told me this last another six months, you're gonna

689
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna mentally break. And sometimes you gotta give yourself

690
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: little patience, little grace. You're allowed to be angry, but

691
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: like you also gotta be careful because you can't just

692
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: be pissed off when you're changing the diaper, because the

693
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: kid feels you're you're kind of energy. So it's it's

694
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: really just trying to embrace team no sleep, put a

695
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: smile on your face, and uh, just be a helping hand.

696
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: So my fugazi was realizing that I was actually wrong

697
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 2: about the fugazi because however many clothes that you think

698
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: are extra, you probably need more. Let's dive in a

699
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: stucky Okay, we're coming down the home stretch here. It

700
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: is uh or sweet to stay the least and pretty

701
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: sad to be honest with you when you just look

702
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: up and you realize you only have three football games left.

703
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: I was already kind of watching like the Dubai Desert

704
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: Classic this morning, just trying to like realizing there's not

705
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: going to be much to watch moving forward. I already

706
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: miss thinking about no Monday night football. You can hate

707
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: on Thursday Night football, but when it's gone, you just

708
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: start clicking the channels and you're like, what am I

709
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: supposed to do? I actually watched a decent college basketball

710
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: stucky last time. I mean Arizona cheez. I mean, they

711
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: look like an NBA team right now, just dominating people.

712
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: Lebron's kid can't even get on the floor because they're

713
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 2: so good. But we got a couple of games. We're

714
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: both fathers, we're not sleeping much, and we just power

715
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: through three to go.

716
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's kind of sad goes by so quick

717
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: every year. I just hope we'll talk about this game.

718
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: I actually did bet some early Denver five and a

719
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: half nines come down a little bit. I am hoping

720
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: number one for my bet to win, but number two,

721
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for the Patriots to win by three because

722
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: I just, first of all selfishly and for you too.

723
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna we talk about the Super Bowl for two weeks.

724
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: One game, and if it has to be like Jared

725
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: Stidham versus the Rams or Seahawks, it's way less intriguing.

726
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: And I think the look adlines just from a competitive standpoint,

727
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: way less of a chance that we get a competitive game.

728
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: I think the look adlines are like the I think

729
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: I saw the Rams where the Seahawks are like eight

730
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: and a half minus eight and a half against the

731
00:39:54,680 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: Broncos three and a half versus the Patriot. So yeah,

732
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: I hope that the Patriots win a very close game

733
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: is my desire there. But the Ramseyhawks Part three should

734
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: be a doozy. I mean those teams like twice this

735
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: year separated by one yard in one point.

736
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: Well, let's rewind to last week, and I think if

737
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: you go into that locker room and all those guys

738
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: crying because let's face it, of New England Denver, clearly

739
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: Houston had no shot the way CJ was playing. But Buffalo,

740
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: Buffalo would have been the one team that probably a

741
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: lot of people would have picked right if they would

742
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: have got to this game and got to the Super Bowl.

743
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott gets fired the situation in that game with

744
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: you know some of the calls. Obviously, Josh's play was

745
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: all over the map, kind of a little end of

746
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: a little era, and they're kind of hoping to do

747
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: the Tony dungee to Gruden. I mean, we've seen this

748
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: handoff before, but we've also seen it gone the other way.

749
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: So I mean this is and the Ravens are in

750
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: a similar situation. Though, you know, you watch the two

751
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: press conferences. Steve Bushotty just got up and talked like

752
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: he can handle himself right, whether you agree or disagree

753
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: with what he's saying, he ain't afraid to let the

754
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: bullets start flying at him. The I mean, Terry Pegoula,

755
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't follow hockey, but it turns out that the

756
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: Buffalo Sabers, besides the Jets, have the longest running playoff drought.

757
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: I know the man got rich off oil, but you know,

758
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: in that business, especially back in the day, it took balls,

759
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: you know, more than I think, being like Elon developing

760
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: some of these companies, and Poogola's got balls, created his

761
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: own company, made a bunch of money. But you watch

762
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: them in front of a microphone. You went, this organization's

763
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: picking Josh Rosen instead of Josh Allen. Away from being

764
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: the Jets, I mean that they are. I mean this

765
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: notion that they're like the the Ravens with ownership. I

766
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean I watched that. It's like kind

767
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: of felt for Josh. Is this guy? What was your

768
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: take on that situation?

769
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first I will say, I mean Alan

770
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: deserves some criticism for that game. He you know, turn

771
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: was sloppy, didn't play his best game. But if you

772
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: look at Alan's body of work in the playoffs, he's

773
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: been one of the best playoff quarterbacks of all time.

774
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: If you just look statistically and including this game, almost

775
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: every single one of his playoff losses, it's the defense

776
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: that let let him down. And I mean, if you

777
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: just go back and look at the Bill's playoff losses

778
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: under Allen, they're consistently scoring in the thirties and they're

779
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: losing these games because of their defense. Additionally, coaching and

780
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: like decisions McDermott. You can go back to that thirteen

781
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: seconds and how they handled that with the kickoff, the

782
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: Kelsey up the up the seam, and then this game

783
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the half. I don't know what

784
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: they were trying to do with Alan, like no timeouts.

785
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: There was just no upside there, Like the time was

786
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: going to run out and he fumbles, Denver gets a

787
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: fuel goal. That's the death. How the game could play

788
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: out differently, but that ended up being ultimately difference in

789
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: the game, a game that went to overtime. That those

790
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: three points, it's massive. So I do think that there

791
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: had just after all of these postseason failures, there had

792
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: to be a scapegoat. I think McDermott he he has

793
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: his fass as a head coach, but I think he'd

794
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: be an outstanding defensive coordinator so he can still scheme

795
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: up defense and different looks. But being I think is

796
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: getting off like Scott Free here. It's not like this

797
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: roster has been built optimally, so there's there's been flaws

798
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: on how they've built it, the help that they've given Alan,

799
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see where it goes. But there

800
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: had to be a fall guy. It's there is just

801
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: and the disappointment. I'm like the disappointment that must be

802
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: felt by the Bills, and that's you could see it

803
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: right after with Allen's tears and the comments from Dawkins

804
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: and company. You know, Bosa throwing his helmet and look,

805
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots is just a tough life to your Patriots fan.

806
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: Think about them, like, they were the most successful team

807
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL for two decades, winning all these Super Bowls.

808
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: They have to rebuild, and then they're rebuilding and then

809
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: the dumps while the AFC is just dominated by Mahomes.

810
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: And then also you have Lamar and Alan the first

811
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: time they're back relevant with the easiest scheduled NFL history,

812
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: get the NFC Championship Game and only have to go

813
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: through Jared Stidham.

814
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: So can you can you imagine being a Bills fan

815
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: if the Patriots do take care of business and they're

816
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: just back in the Super Bowl. I mean, that would

817
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: be tough. I had a diehard Bills fan text me

818
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: if the Patriots were to win the Super Bowl would

819
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: truly cripple me, And I was like, I get it

820
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: because it would be like, how is this fair? Because

821
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: I just think I would imagine Buffalo had to view

822
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: Jacksonville once they won that game. I mean, they might

823
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 2: have thought Jacksonville is the best team in the dance yeah,

824
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, and then they beat them and they go

825
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: it's on we can go beat bo Knicks and then

826
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: take our chances, especially if we get New England, right,

827
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: I mean, we're comfortable playing them, and now we're at home,

828
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: we don't have a coach or our franchise feels and shambles.

829
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: It's a crazy turn of events and that's I think

830
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: the cool part about the playoffs is what's on the line,

831
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: and from good and bad, right, I mean, it's CJ. Stroud.

832
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: It's hard to even think about him the same, right,

833
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: And I think it's fair. It'saw Orlovsky apologize to day

834
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: for saying thirty one other quarterbacks would have won that.

835
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: It's like, what what are we doing apologizing for? That's

836
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: legitimately one of the worst habs of football you will

837
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: ever see an NFL history, the majority of our lives eighties,

838
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: ninety two thousands, he would get benched if he would

839
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: have been five x the player that he already won.

840
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just this is football. People get benched

841
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: other positions. You don't even hesitate, right the quarterback and

842
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: he's not good enough to be treated like that. And

843
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: there's no disputing he lost them in the game because

844
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: their defense he would throw a pick and their defense

845
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: would come on and Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter would

846
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: look like the two best pass rushers you've ever seen.

847
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: It's like, these guys got to be like, what is

848
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: going on? Guys just go three and out to stop

849
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: handing them the football. It's Houston's defense truly was incredible.

850
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure Daneil Hunter's out free agent, so

851
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, I mean some people lined up

852
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: to get his surfaces. He's no guaranteed to come back.

853
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: And who knows what happens with Stroud now? But yeah,

854
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean with the way that he was playing, you

855
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: had to try something. I mean, there it was, you

856
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: could tell it was over and then he had no

857
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 1: confidence and they and it's a shame because the tech

858
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: like the Texans have to look at this as a

859
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: lost opportunity because the state of the AFC, right, like,

860
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: and who's who's left? And now you see what happened

861
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: with Denver and yeah, the Texans had a two thousand type,

862
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: two thousand Ravens type of defense, right and then if

863
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: you look at this. The other thing is if you

864
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: look at the AFC quarterbacks, the quarterbacks that have won

865
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship since two thousand, it is basically Peyton, Manning, Ben, Roethlisberger,

866
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Brady and the Flacco and Burrow in there.

867
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: And then back in two thousand you had Dilfer and

868
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: obviously it was a different, different error, but diffult Dilford

869
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: just don't make mistakes. That's like what the Ravens asked

870
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: him to do with their defense. And if Shroud just

871
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: didn't make mistakes and manage the game, they could have

872
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: easily won the AFC. So they have to feel it

873
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: was a lost opportunity and where do they go from here?

874
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: What happens with Stroud? Like it feels like that rookie

875
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: year was a very long time ago from the last

876
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: time we saw Stroud consistently playing at a high level.

877
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's a lot of and the AFC

878
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: was just down overall this year for a lot of teams.

879
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: And this is.

880
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: Across the board in the NFL, there's a lot of

881
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: like look in the mirror moments and all right, where

882
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: we need to change, I mean think about it could

883
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: be even across the NFL. The only division without a

884
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: coaching change is the NFC North. Ah, that's it. There's

885
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: so and they have. There's some coordinator changes, but from

886
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: a head coaching perspective, that's it. There's a lot of changes,

887
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: and like the Texans are out of an inflection point.

888
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: The Bills, I just think after so many playoff disappointments,

889
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: you couldn't just run it back with the same staff

890
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: and same cast of characters. You needed, Like, I feel

891
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: like they would come out so hungover next year and

892
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: like just deflated, and so they needed some new juice,

893
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: something to inject change. But yeah, the Bills, Texans, Ravens

894
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: off seasons are going to be super interesting. The Steelers also,

895
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: right like they finally said had enough. So there's a

896
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: lot of these teams that are like, all right, let's

897
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: it's like the it kind of reached the point where

898
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: like this was the year, right, you could chalk up

899
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: a lot of what I think happens a lot of teams,

900
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: and part of this is fair. A lot of teams

901
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: that were contenders for six to seven years in the

902
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: AFC just said, well it was Mahomes, Like we were

903
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: never going to beat Mahomes and the Chiefs right like that,

904
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: it was just we there's nothing we could do. The

905
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs were inevitable but in a year where the Chiefs

906
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, right, the Ravens don't make the playoffs,

907
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: and it's wide open and when you don't get there,

908
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: I think it's forcing a lot of these teams to

909
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: actually make some changes this season, which is going to

910
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: make next year very very interesting.

911
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: Even Jim Harbaugh, you know, from a look standpoint, like

912
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh hired Mike McDaniel, though they have way more

913
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: in common. Mike his run scheme. I mean, he basically

914
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: mentored under Forrester, who Shanahan's guy for ever going back

915
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: to Washington. He's big on his wide receivers blocking. I

916
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: know that the little guys in Miami, but that's a

917
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 2: staple of kind of how he's been taught philosophically. They

918
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: actually have a lot in common. And I give Mike

919
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: some credit, like he clearly could have picked several jobs,

920
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure, and he went with the job. He got

921
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 2: two offensive linemen coming back. You would get a ton

922
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: of credit if you take Herbert to the next level.

923
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: And it also kind of shows like there's no disputing

924
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: that the Eagles would have given him a ton of

925
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: money to be their coordinator. And this Eagles. Gig is risky, right,

926
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: You either are gonna be a star and to get

927
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: a head coach or you're gonna get fired. Like there's

928
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: not really much middle ground. Wh It's like, oh, you

929
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: just become one of the solid offensive coordinators in the league.

930
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: So I you know, clearly he went.

931
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: With a situation. Yeah, yeah, that's.

932
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: AJ's gonna be gone. So it's just it's kind of

933
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 2: interesting to how it all played out because to me, Mike,

934
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, you see some I think petsing In was

935
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: a Detroit Washington just elevated blow. I think McDaniel was

936
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: clearly the most intriguing cordinate guy that was one hundred

937
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: second to be a coordinator. I'm not gonna get a

938
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: head coach like Stefanski was gonna get a head coaching job.

939
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: I kind of thought McDaniel might go with Robert, but

940
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I thought the Tennessee Titans job. But honestly, it kind

941
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: of shocked me. It just shows you how obsessed he

942
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: is with being a head coach. I think that job

943
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: is much closer to Arizona than it is like Baltimore, Buffalo.

944
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I McDaniel, Well, I think one thing we know

945
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: is McDaniel clearly values nice weather, so that I might

946
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: have played a far true, but he Yeah, I mean

947
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: I wanted my ideal, this a pipe dream. Is a

948
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Ravens fan in the offseason, is I wouldn't I wanted,

949
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Like if I if I could just craft whatever staff

950
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: I wanted, I would want.

951
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: I want to mentor.

952
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Head coach Flores DC McDaniel otse obviously very unrealistic. Yeah, McDaniel,

953
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: I think will be an excellent offensive coordinator. And the

954
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: Chargers have they just they're they're continuing to build the

955
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: roster to fit har Ball. And this year they were

956
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: never gonna win the Super Bowl. I mean, I guess

957
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: they could have, but the DFC is wide open. But

958
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: after those offensive line injuries, you just weren't gonna go

959
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: win three or four games in the playoffs without your

960
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: star tackle. So you get your offensive line, like they

961
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: need to still address the interior, but you get your

962
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: tackles back, like that's just massive, Like you get that's

963
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: basically like you get like two tackles back, you know,

964
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber tackles back. The question then, so I

965
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: think the Charger is in a really really good spot

966
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: next year. The question just becomes is it's is there

967
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: something with Herbert on the big stage now? The sample

968
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: size is so small, but he looked horrendous in his

969
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: last playoff game, and then this year looked really poor.

970
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 1: That's like the question they have to answer. We tend

971
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: to overreact to these things over small sample sizes.

972
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: Right.

973
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: We say this about coaches in college right. A lot

974
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: of in college basketball used to always say this about

975
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: certain coaches. They can't win the big they can't win

976
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: the national title. They choke in March. But it's like

977
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: the NFL's one and done. It's hard to win. And

978
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: then once you do win, people say this by like

979
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: Jay Wright Villanova.

980
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: Look at I mean, Mario had a pretty big year

981
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: down the stretch right to kind of shut some people up.

982
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeap Brian Day. They said that about him until last year.

983
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: So I think Herbert will be fine. I think it

984
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: was a great hire. You get the tackles, you address

985
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: the interier offensive line. You just infuse a little bit

986
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: more talent to that roster and they're going to be

987
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: extremely dangerous. Like as if I had pick someone right

988
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: now to win the AFC next year, Like if you

989
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: made me pick, I probably picked the Chargers as of

990
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: right now without doing a lot of offseason work. So

991
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: I thought that was an outstanding higher. But there's gonna

992
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: be a lot. There's just a lot of change in

993
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: the AFC across the board, so it's gonna be this

994
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: is that it's definitely a transition off season for so

995
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: many teams.

996
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: Totally. Let's just dive right in. Uh. I didn't know

997
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: this till I heard someone mention this. I saw the

998
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl director had to change a bunch of flights

999
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: for players, which I'm pretty sure the Senior Bowls next week.

1000
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 2: And it has to do with this crazy cold front

1001
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: that you just told me before we hopped on that

1002
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: is coming right through up through the South, up through

1003
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: where you live in Kentucky and maybe far enough in

1004
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: Denver because I checked the weather this morning, I mean

1005
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: last week in Denver. My cousin was there. I mean

1006
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: on TV it looked beautiful, right, I mean we've had

1007
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: Denver playoff games that look frigid and freezing. I think

1008
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: it was, you know, low forties, but the sun was out.

1009
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: The high is supposed to be like twenty degrees with

1010
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: the low of like in the low single digits, so

1011
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: that this cold front that's coming, Like to me, that

1012
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: has an impact. I mean playing in the cold. You

1013
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: watch these games throughout the playoffs and even late in

1014
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: the regular season. I mean, it's just a different sport,

1015
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: it really is. I mean that day with Jacksonville, they

1016
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: open up the scene in Jacksonville and the kids are

1017
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: in the pool, and then they go later that day

1018
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: to like the Midwest. It's just like, you know, Chiefs

1019
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: have had games that are in the negatives. I was

1020
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 2: telling my wife, I'm like, there was this playoff game

1021
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: because Minnesota was getting a new stadium, they played outside

1022
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: and players the next week reported they had frostbite on

1023
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 2: their fingers. That was like ten years ago. That wasn't

1024
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: like in the sixties. So it just these playoff games

1025
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: get fucking cold. It's harder to catch, it's harder to

1026
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: hold the ball. I mean, look at CJ. Stroud. I

1027
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 2: think it's fair to red flag him not a cold

1028
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: weather quarterback. I mean that's he's got the who's his

1029
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: cop Jared Goff kind of. That's the way he plays

1030
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: a touch He's a touch paster. I'm not overthinking this one.

1031
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: I just think it's it's absolutely impossible to not play

1032
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: a snap all season long and be the true backup

1033
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: quarterback where you are servicing the defense in practice, because

1034
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: this is not you know most people. High school football

1035
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: could be a little different once you get to college,

1036
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: and definitely the NFL. The starter takes all the reps

1037
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: and it's been like that forever, and the backup does

1038
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: not take reps running the offensive game plan. And Sean

1039
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: Payton made a comment I think I don't know who

1040
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: it was too, but like he'd get mad advance Joseph

1041
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: because he'd be lighting them up. And that's what I remember.

1042
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: Kyle said that about Perry or Fred Warner, like he

1043
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: used to light us up. Well, he's running the other

1044
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: teams plays, so you know the guy might have talent

1045
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: or whatever and be a good player, but he's not

1046
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: focusing on, like, hey, our third down packages. I mean,

1047
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: he is in the meeting room, but not to play

1048
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: to come back in an AFC championship game in the

1049
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: middle of January when you haven't taken reps, like real

1050
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: game reps since August, which was preseason, that feels like

1051
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: insurmountable to me. I mean, I just I just have

1052
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: to short that, and I know I'm sure you and

1053
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, hey, the number, this

1054
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 2: is still kind of crazy, and clearly Denver's not bad,

1055
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: but I kind of is Denver's defense as good as

1056
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: we kind of thought it was. I mean, definitely not

1057
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: as good as last year. And this is a huge

1058
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: moment for Sean Payton. I mean, this would be a

1059
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: legendary win for a coach. Legendary like this would be,

1060
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: beside the Super Bowl, his most impressive win of his career.

1061
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he's now an underdog at home. I just

1062
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm taking New England in the points. Don't feel great

1063
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: about it, but it's just the logic of the backup quarterback.

1064
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: I have to bet against it in this situation. It'd

1065
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: be one thing like Folds and some of these guys

1066
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 2: when they got to play. If you had told me that, like, hey,

1067
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks did this a couple of weeks before Christmas.

1068
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: He's won some games, he showed promise, he's gotten to

1069
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: a little rhythm. He's not as good, but I'd beg okay,

1070
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: yeah I would factor, but it's like this guy hasn't

1071
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: played at all.

1072
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: This Yeah, very very very difficult game to handicap. A

1073
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty, like there's there's a much higher chance

1074
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: in this game than many other I mean, this is

1075
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: the largest home dog in a conference championship game since

1076
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: the merger. For what it's where the past fifty years,

1077
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: the home dogs in the NFL playoffs with four or

1078
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: more points doesn't happen often nine to zero against the spread,

1079
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: never every single one is covered. It's all with the

1080
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: Panthers earlier this year. So I played the Broncos. I'll

1081
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: give you my case and a lot of my thoughts

1082
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: on the game. But I mean, it's really going to

1083
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: come to no one really knows what this is going

1084
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: to look like. But you know, I would have made

1085
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: the Broncos like a two point favorite. I mean, they

1086
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: closed a one and a half point favorite against the

1087
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: Bills in one. The Bills are rated a little higher

1088
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: in my opinion than the Patriots. I would have made

1089
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: this like two to two and a half. So at

1090
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: five and a half, that's assuming you know Nix is

1091
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: worth like a touchdown. That's aggressive that the quarterbacks that

1092
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: are worth a touchdown to their backup are the elite

1093
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, and I don't think Nix is

1094
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: that Nix has had a great season, has done a

1095
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: lot of things late in games, but he's you know where,

1096
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: he's operating under an elite play caller with an elite

1097
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: offensive line, and his numbers are far from a lad.

1098
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: I think he's like a league average quarterback and stead

1099
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: of at least has been in the system for a

1100
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: couple of years. He was the first guy that Peyton

1101
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: signed when he got to Denver, so obviously he saw

1102
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: something that he liked. And Stidham has four starts two

1103
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two, two and twenty twenty three. If

1104
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: you filter, they're out all quarterbacks over that span with

1105
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: at least one hundred dropbacks, there's eighty two of them.

1106
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: He's like twentieth in success rate, thirtieth in EPA. So

1107
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: and he played by it. And those offenses that he

1108
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: played with are really bad. The offensive lines were hard.

1109
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: So some of the things that he has working for

1110
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: him here a great offensive line, he does have a

1111
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: little sneaky mobility, and a great play caller, and he's

1112
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: playing at home. Those those are not insignificant factors, especially

1113
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: the offensive line and being able to get protection. The

1114
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: other things that are working in their favor here is

1115
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: Obviously the home crowd playing at Denver in January is

1116
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: not easy. But the noise that New England's gonna have

1117
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: to deal with with an inexperienced quarterback, and I just

1118
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: there's the un all the pressure now is on New England,

1119
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: right like you have to beat Stidham to get to

1120
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: the super Bowl or the Denver can play loose here

1121
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: and then the uncertainty could work in their advantage, work

1122
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: to their advantage, like the Patriots don't really know what

1123
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: to expect here. You're probably gonna get the kitchen sink

1124
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: from Peyton, You're you're gonna get all kinds of new books,

1125
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: new packages, any trick plays that they've had, you use

1126
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: them here. You just this is your You just try

1127
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl where anything can happen,

1128
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: so that uncertainty could work in their favor. Additionally, this

1129
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: Denver defense, I do think they're a tat overrated. They're not.

1130
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: Some people talk about them in like the same stratosphere

1131
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: as you know Seattle and Houston. I don't think that

1132
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: they're there, but they can get a lot of pressure,

1133
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: especially at home. I mean their top five and pressure

1134
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: Ray top five and pressure Ay without blitzing, and this

1135
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: new England offense is very vulnerable to pressure. Right now,

1136
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: Will Campbell looks like a traffic cone out there, I

1137
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: mean alway look like an All Pro. And then obviously

1138
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: all the Texans dominated him. And may you have to

1139
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: go back, go back to the regular season. They didn't

1140
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: face the top ten defense the entire year outside of

1141
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland and Road Road. Eveland's defense is nothing special. He

1142
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: finally has faced good defenses and he hasn't looked great,

1143
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: and he has six fumbles two interceptions in two games.

1144
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: And you got to play at home that pressure. And

1145
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: then this is the Patriots seem it has been very

1146
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: lucky with when it comes to fumbles. This Denver defense,

1147
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: you know they're going to be up a little ewing

1148
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: theory here, like all right, our star players out everyone

1149
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: else kind of steps up for a game.

1150
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Benito's got to be licking his chops going

1151
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: against Will Campbell.

1152
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be problematic. And the biggest difference this Patriots.

1153
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: The Patriots defense, they've been blitzing a ton lately, like

1154
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: Flores type levels over their past four games. But they

1155
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: went up against and you look at their schedule, they

1156
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: played nothing but backups all your beat up offenses. Even

1157
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: last week you have Stroud playing like that the right

1158
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: the Texans right tackle was out, Nico Collins was out.

1159
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: They lose Dalton Schultz in the first quarter, but they've

1160
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: been blitzing a ton. The biggest difference between the Broncos

1161
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: and the Chargers and the Texans is the Broncos have

1162
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: an elite offensive line. Those teams have two of the

1163
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: worst offensive lines in the NFL. So Stidham should.

1164
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: Have some time here.

1165
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if the Patriots still blits a ton.

1166
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: I just think this is too much of an adjustment. Now,

1167
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: to your point, this is the first time in NFL

1168
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: history a player will start in the championship game or

1169
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: later without throwing a pass in a live game. So

1170
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: we've never seen it before. So there is a chance

1171
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: that it ends in his aster. I don't think anyone

1172
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: really knows, but we did see, like maybe we saw

1173
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers take five years off and you know they

1174
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: should have won it at Seattle was the best, you know,

1175
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: arguably the best defense in the NFL. Maybe he's okay,

1176
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: and you know, the Rivers knew the system, he had

1177
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: familiarity with the system like Stidham does. So yeah, but

1178
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: no one knows. It also could just be a complete disaster.

1179
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: So the other thing is the Patriots run defense is

1180
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: legit when healthy, and they're now healthy. When they're line

1181
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: are healthy, Milton Williams is back. They had a couple

1182
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: other guys that were hurt down the stretch and the

1183
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: run defense kind of created a bit. But when healthy,

1184
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: you can't really run on them, which that gives me

1185
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of hesitation because a little bit of worry,

1186
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: because you want with the backup quarterback, you want to

1187
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: be able to rely on your run game. I don't

1188
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: necessarily know if Denver will be able to do that,

1189
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna trust Peyton, this offensive line, and the

1190
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: Denver defense to get enough pressure to keep this close.

1191
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: I also played the Denver first I played Denver first

1192
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: quarter plus a half point if so, I think the

1193
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: uncertainty works in their favor early on, and you're gonna

1194
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: have some of that. The Patriots aren't going to know

1195
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: what to expect. I also could see the Patriots coming

1196
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: out really conservative here, being like, let's not turn the

1197
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: ball over early. Let their defense, you know, create turnovers

1198
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: and get get a lead because there's a chance Thatt

1199
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: of just as a disaster with Stidham right, so they

1200
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: might go pretty conservative feel out with this going to

1201
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: look like. The Patriots red zone defense is also horrendous,

1202
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: So if Denver is able to put some things together

1203
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: and get into the red zone, they might be able

1204
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: to finish off your eyes with touchdowns. So my opinion

1205
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: is the adjustment is just too much. But I could

1206
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: be dead wrong. If anyone tells you, like with certainty

1207
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: they know what Sidam is going to look like, they're

1208
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: lying through their teeth. But I just think that this

1209
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: should probably be like three and a half, not five

1210
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: and a half. So I did play Denver. Historically, Payton

1211
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: one of the best coaches against the spread as an underdog,

1212
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: especially when catching over a field goal about sixty six

1213
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: percent against the spread. He has had success with backups

1214
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: in the past. He has had success against teams that

1215
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: like the Blitz, and I'm gonna trust him to have

1216
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: just put together everything he's got for this game plan

1217
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: to put Sidham in the best position to put up

1218
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: enough points on the board. The other thing is there's

1219
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: more uncertainty because of the Patriots and their schedule, Like,

1220
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: we still don't know how good this team is because

1221
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: they didn't they had the easiest schedule in twenty five

1222
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: years in the regular season, and then the playoffs, you

1223
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: play the Chargers on offensive line and Herbert just look

1224
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: like a disaster. And then you play the Texans, who

1225
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, Stroud couldn't complete it. I mean you couldn't

1226
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: do anything. And then but they didn't have their full

1227
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: they had offensive line injuries, their best receiver was out,

1228
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: their best fight ends lost in the first quarter. So

1229
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: like the data points of New England playing a full

1230
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: team and we don't. We won't even get one here,

1231
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: by the way, but like we still don't know exactly.

1232
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: Like for a team that's in the AFC or NFC Championship,

1233
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: you usually have a pretty good idea of who they

1234
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: are and where to rate them. There's still there's a

1235
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty with New England as well. But I'm

1236
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: going to trust the ome dog here. But I don't

1237
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: blame you for laying it. There's there's so much uncertainty

1238
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: with this game and Stidham could be a disaster. I

1239
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame people for betting like alts, Like you know,

1240
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: New England minus fourteen, minus seventeen, because if it goes

1241
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: sideways and ten to play like from behind, that's when

1242
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: I do think that this they will mix. They will

1243
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: miss next dearly. They got to stay in this early

1244
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: and keep it close.

1245
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into the main event. Seattle weather actually

1246
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 2: doesn't I look, this morning doesn't look too terrible cold,

1247
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: and it always obviously could rain, but it's not You're

1248
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: not talking single digits or anything. Thirties or forties, probably

1249
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: high forties. To me, there are two plays you're either

1250
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: take in Seattle to cover or you just take the

1251
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: Rams money line. That's the way I would look at it.

1252
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: And when you look at Seattle, if you remove the

1253
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: end of that game whatever in the middle of December,

1254
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: that Thursday night game, they kind of got dominated by

1255
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: the Rams. I mean their quarterback has six interceptions and

1256
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: in La I mean he was that was as bad

1257
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: of a game as he's played the last two years.

1258
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: And obviously he played two horrendous games at the end

1259
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: of last season in Minnesota. I'd argue he was worse

1260
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: than that Rams game. Of the four picks, like three

1261
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: of them were like real atrocious, like hitting guys in

1262
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: stride like CJ. Stroud level picks the other day and

1263
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: then he flipped in the obviously had a great drive

1264
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: to win the game. But you know that Shaheed who

1265
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: has been huge for him, So it's not be like,

1266
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: well they got a random, you know, punt return. Well

1267
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: he just had a kickoffort like the guy's electric player.

1268
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: I mean it can happen. He's He's clearly an X

1269
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: factor against a team whose special teams are I'm watching Signetti.

1270
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, if I'm Sean McVeigh, i call his special

1271
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: teams coordinator, like, hey, would you be interested in coming

1272
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: to the NFL? You you want to come work for

1273
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: the Rams. We're pretty good and we'll pay you a

1274
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: lot of money. Like I would be all over that guy.

1275
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even outthinking these offensive coaches like McVeigh and Channe,

1276
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: they hate special teams. Just go find like that guy.

1277
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: They're blocking kicks and doing shit every game. To me,

1278
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have faith in Sam Donald. What do you

1279
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: think about this comp Seattle reminds me a little of

1280
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen forty nine Ers, Unreal defense, unreal front

1281
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: Sherman wasn't all pro that year, their secondary was really good.

1282
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: Obviously they had great quick young linebacker play, and Jimmy

1283
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: Garoppolo just kind of had to manage the game. And

1284
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 2: remember in that NFC Championship game, he had eight attempts. Now,

1285
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be quite the case. But

1286
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: Sam Donald's had a game where he threw twelve completions

1287
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: for one hundred and twenty yards and they won by

1288
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: almost forty points. So it's like he just has to

1289
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: play in this Kobiak Shanahan offense like a Jimmy Garoppolo.

1290
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: But he is better than Jimmy talent wise. But like Jimmy,

1291
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: if you force him to pass too much, he can

1292
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: throw it to the other team. So to me, it

1293
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: all comes down to, like, can they turn Sam into

1294
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: game manager? They will win this game. If they have

1295
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: to rely on them, like Sean relies on Stafford. It

1296
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: could get dice in, could get dicey fast.

1297
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: And very dicey if they have to allow on him.

1298
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: Because also you have the oblique issue which could flare

1299
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: up at any time, and that flares up with the

1300
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 1: more times that you have to throw, and it impacts

1301
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: your deep passing.

1302
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: So how about that first pass of the Niner game

1303
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: when it will like kind of skipped, You're like, oh,

1304
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: this could be a And then Shanahan said after the game,

1305
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: he's like that Torri roll kicks in. You get a

1306
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: little numb. He started rolling and like you said, what

1307
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: eighteen attemp? It's not like he threw it forty nine

1308
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: times yeap.

1309
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,879
Speaker 1: So, and he's playing a defense it doesn't get pressure.

1310
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: The Rams can get pressure, and that's been Donald's crypto.

1311
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: Donald has been one of the worst quarterbacks in the

1312
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: league against pressure this year, and that against the Rams

1313
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: who can get pressure. Going back to last year for

1314
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: Donald and then the two meetings this year, that leads

1315
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: to Donald making mistakes. So that has to be the

1316
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: But this will come down.

1317
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: But if the Rams aren't able, why why do you

1318
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: think Shula's owned him so much? Is just the pressure

1319
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: on him? Is the looks changing? I mean because clearly

1320
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: over three games from a statistical standpoint, for a guy

1321
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 2: that's resurrected his career and been excellent against most other opponents,

1322
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: has been horrendous. Yeah.

1323
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it just boils down to

1324
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: the pressure. And keep in mind this the left tackle

1325
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: situation for Seattle is very dicey there. Backup and starter

1326
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday. We'll see what the practice reports say today.

1327
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: But they could be down to like a third string

1328
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: left tackle against Verse, which is not ideal. But this

1329
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: so it just gets to three. I've been waiting for ticular.

1330
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: I have to take the Rams now. The sched the

1331
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: spot is not ideal for the Rams. They could be

1332
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 1: like worn down, and maybe that's what we're seeing. But

1333
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: this goes back to that crazy lucky win that the

1334
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: Seahawks had that decided the one seed. And this is

1335
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: the benefit that you get. The Seahawks had to buy

1336
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: and then a blot win at home and then they

1337
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 1: stay at home host the NFC Championship. They have basically

1338
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: haven't exerted much energy at all in a month. Meanwhile,

1339
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: the Rams went to Carolina, We're in a dogfight. Chicago

1340
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: go to overtime, and then could fly to Seattle for

1341
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: their third straight road game after an overtime game.

1342
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: Wait, Atlanta, remember Monday night football? This second to last week,

1343
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: you know Seattle. Second to last week was San Francisco,

1344
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 2: So wasn't that far of a flight.

1345
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: Haven't had a break. We're buying forever, So like, are

1346
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: they starting to wear down? Is that what we're seeing?

1347
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: But if this is a three, If there's a three,

1348
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: I have to take the Rams. I think that there's

1349
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: part of this is there's a little overreaction and recency

1350
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: bias for what we've seen over the past month. If

1351
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: you go back just a week sixteen, so we have

1352
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks, almost a full body of work. After that

1353
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks game, you set everyone that watches that the

1354
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: Rams are the best team in the NFL and they're

1355
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl. And that has changed drastically

1356
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: in less than a month. And the Seahawks have just

1357
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,879
Speaker 1: played the Niners with all their injuries, and the Panthers.

1358
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: They've only played two teams, so and I get the

1359
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: Rams that haven't looked as great since then. But the

1360
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: Rams went to Seattle and put up five hundred and

1361
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: eighty one yards and really only lost because of a

1362
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: Fluke two point conversion. They also missed a field goal.

1363
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: Your point about special teams, though, is valid. Seattle is

1364
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: a major advantage. They have elite special teams. The Rams

1365
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: do not. The Rams missed a field goal in that

1366
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: game that would have won it. They gave up a

1367
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: punt return that flipped the game. Part of it is

1368
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: that the Rams like their roster it was set. They

1369
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: were not supposed to be in this position, but they

1370
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: hit on their draft picks, Like nailed their draft picks right.

1371
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: They sacrificed their future for that super Bowl that they got,

1372
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: and they were going to have some very bad years

1373
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, but they hit

1374
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: on their draft picks. They were able to maintain their

1375
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: level on that side. But the depth of the roster

1376
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: isn't great, which leaks into the special teams and that's

1377
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: why I think they're spe teams are really struggled. But

1378
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: you're right, they could use like just a special teams

1379
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: coordinator wizard. But that's a huge advantage for Seattle here.

1380
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: But don't just I think in that game, I bet

1381
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: Seattle plus one at home against the Rams. They got

1382
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: dominated and I got very lucky to win that bet.

1383
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: They closed minus one. But keep in mind the Rams

1384
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: were without Dotson, who you know, Argua with the best

1385
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,839
Speaker 1: guard in football. He came back last week looked dominant,

1386
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: and they were without Devonte Adams and they still put

1387
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: up nearly six hundred yards one of the things they did.

1388
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: They ran right at Nick even Wore, ran right at him,

1389
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: and I mean he Nick even Wore has been amazing,

1390
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: Like he has changed. One of the reasons why that

1391
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: McDonald defense is unreal. They have no weaknesses and they

1392
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, he's able to basically play linebacker and d

1393
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: back and that you can match heavier, light personnel. This

1394
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: will come back.

1395
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: They're literally looking for a Kyle Hamilton type player, and

1396
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: there just is a guy in this draft that they

1397
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 2: can get in the second round. Kyle Hamilton type players, size,

1398
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: they don't even really exist most drafts, and then there

1399
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: just happens to be a guy. Kyle Hamilton was a

1400
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 2: high pick, but you don't even need to draft that

1401
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: high that you can just get in the second round.

1402
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it worked out fucking perfectly for him.

1403
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. So but this will come down to so like

1404
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: in that game, Seattle is one the Rams. We're missing

1405
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: two of their better players on offense. Now the Rams

1406
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: are fully healthy on offense, the Seahawks might not be,

1407
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, Donald oblique their left tackle situations. Dicey lost

1408
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: Chara so at three. I think it's way too much

1409
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: of an overreaction, and I'd have to take the Rams.

1410
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: What I think this game will come down to is

1411
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: and now, maybe Stafford's hand is a thing, and maybe

1412
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 1: they're fatigued, you could argue that for sure, but at

1413
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: a field goal, I'd have to take it. But I

1414
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: think this is just going to come down to absolute

1415
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: football porn between McVeigh and McDonald. So the first meeting,

1416
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: oddly enough, the first meeting, McDonald dominated McVeigh, but McVeigh one.

1417
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: In the second meeting, McVeagh dominated McDonald and McDonald won.

1418
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: And then you go back to the raid in Baltimore.

1419
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: McVeigh dominated McDonald when they had the number one defense

1420
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, but McDonald won in overtime. But I think,

1421
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: like so, mcdagh made some really good adjustments and it's.

1422
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: Really back to that. We're back to that circle. You know,

1423
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 2: Kyle still has success against the Rams, McVeigh against Seattle.

1424
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 2: Seattle against the Niners is fucking life in the NC West.

1425
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: So there is in the first meeting, the Rams used

1426
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: eleven personnel like sixty five percent of the time. In

1427
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: the second meeting, they used thirteen personnel sixty five percent

1428
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: of the time, and they had success running right at

1429
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 1: Eman Warret. It was also in a short week. McDonald

1430
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: said he tried to implement too many complex things and

1431
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: it was too much on a short week. But you know,

1432
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: both teams are going to make adjustments. What did the

1433
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: Rams do last week? They abandoned heavy personnel. I don't

1434
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: know why, because that's how you want to attack the Bears,

1435
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: especially in bad weather. But you know mcvay's gonna throw

1436
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 1: a curveball and you know McDonald's gonna have kurballs. Which

1437
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: one is more effective? Which one makes the better in

1438
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: game adjustments? That is going to be absolute porn. The

1439
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: difference could be, you know, and if mcvay's able to

1440
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: move the ball and they're able to put up points,

1441
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: how do they also treat Nakula this time around? Because

1442
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: Adams is playing? I mean, think about Nicooa went off

1443
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: against It's unstoppable and Adams wasn't even playing. What is

1444
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: the adjustment there? Do they bracket him more? Does Adams

1445
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: look a little healthier this week? But the biggest difference

1446
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: here is Stafford's okay under pressure and Donald is not.

1447
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: So if this gets into a high scoring affair and

1448
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,959
Speaker 1: Donald needs to match Stafford, and he has that oblique

1449
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: and there might be left tackle issues. I'm taking the Ram,

1450
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: But if the Seahawks defense is able to do its thing,

1451
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: like in the first meeting at home in this situation,

1452
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: then the Seahawks probably get it done. You throw in

1453
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 1: the special team's advantage. So this comes down to mcday

1454
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: and McDonald and it's you could look at, however, the

1455
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: other staff, like we talk about these games and as

1456
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: better as try to break them down, but when in

1457
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: the highest leverage games, that's when you make the most changes, right,

1458
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: So they know that the staff's looking at the same

1459
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: things and the ten you want to break ten in

1460
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: season these games. So what do the Seahawks do differently,

1461
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: and what do the Rams do differently in the third meeting,

1462
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: and who does it more effectively and catches the other

1463
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: team appart, That's probably what's going to decide this. That's

1464
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: what makes football chess matches like this so awesome. So

1465
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch it. But at three, I

1466
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: think it's just too much of a reaction to what's

1467
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: happened recently. Like just a month ago, everyone was saying

1468
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: after a game in Seattle with a short handed offense,

1469
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: the Rams are the best team. They just put up

1470
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: six hundred yards on this defense, and I think we're overacting,

1471
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: maybe just a little bit to what Seattle and Seattle's

1472
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: offense hasn't been great for. You know, since week ten,

1473
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: teams have adjusted, right. Mc donald was number third in

1474
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: EPA per player for the first ten weeks. Since then

1475
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, and a lot of that, the run games

1476
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: gotten better because a lot of that is teams are

1477
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: playing lighter boxes. Against the Seahawks. Early in the season,

1478
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 1: they were running but not running it well. But teams

1479
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: were loading the box because they hadn't think the Seahawks

1480
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: had all these tight ends and they were running it

1481
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: a tone, but that was just they were just doing

1482
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: that to set up the play action in deep shots.

1483
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: To JSN. Well, defenses have since that, run it, we

1484
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: don't care. Run it if you want, We're going to

1485
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: take away the deep ball. We're going to bracket JSN.

1486
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 1: So the Seahwks have their run games gotten better, but

1487
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: those explosive passing plays have gone out the window. And

1488
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: I think the Rams will play it the same way. Right,

1489
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: They'll say, yeah, run it if you want, We just

1490
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: want to. You're not gonna be able to do it

1491
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: consistently enough all the way on the field without getting

1492
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 1: into a third down where then we can get unleash

1493
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: our pass rush and get to Donald. I think that's

1494
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: got to be their goal so this but I think

1495
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: this all just comes down to the McVeigh versus McDonald

1496
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: chess match, which is as good as it gets. I

1497
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: can't wait for that game.

1498
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: Well, one major difference in the Niners, clearly with their

1499
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver injuries. You know, Kitt'll being out in this

1500
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: last game. When it's like third and six, they have

1501
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: no chance for guys to get open against that defense.

1502
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: Well, the Niners, they're not a defense and can get

1503
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: pressure against Donald.

1504
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 2: Two's yeah so and it flips. So it's but when

1505
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: you look at the rams on offense and it's third

1506
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 2: and six, you could argue, if DeVante's healthy, they have

1507
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: the two best possession wide receivers in the league. So

1508
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I mean Jefferson and Chase, these

1509
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: guys are more explosive. But those two guys on third

1510
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 2: and seven or third and five, when it's a must

1511
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: pass on a slant on an out, when it's just

1512
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 2: something to get past the six and make a fucking play.

1513
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue DeVante's been the best version

1514
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: of that guy for a decade and Puka is now

1515
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: the best at that so and that's a huge advantage.

1516
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: I thought that win going on the road, and I

1517
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: know Chicago was flawed, but their defense when you start

1518
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: getting single digits, those games are really hard. They're not

1519
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: gonna be thirty five to thirty. That's not the way

1520
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: it's played. That was. I mean everything we've talked about

1521
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: Miami for twenty five years, what the Rams have done.

1522
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the weather was like

1523
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: last week in LA but it probably wasn't colder than

1524
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: sixty to handle that in the physicality like they've That

1525
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: gets to the way they've built the team with the GM,

1526
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: the way mcveigh's, the mindset that the forty nine ers

1527
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 2: have done the same over the years, be able to travel,

1528
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: it's a physicality mindset in the cold, and that shit

1529
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: translates in the playoffs. So I if the Rams play well,

1530
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: like they can win this game, no problem. Like I say,

1531
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: no problem, Like it wouldn't shock anybody if you tell

1532
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: me the Rams win this game, right, twenty five to

1533
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:46,480
Speaker 2: twenty or something. So that's in Stafford. I mean, if

1534
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: he's on, they're just tough.

1535
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: And I mean think I think the most I mean

1536
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: you mentioned Nikoua, and maybe the most impressive performance of

1537
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: the entire season is what MKUA did in Seattle against

1538
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: that defense with no Adams. I mean that teamens gives

1539
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: up nothing. They haven't given up a play over twenty

1540
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: yards in a month. They give up nothing to anybody.

1541
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: And Nicoua without Adams had twelve catches for two hundred

1542
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: and twenty five yards. Like, that's ridiculous against this defense.

1543
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: This defense doesn't give up one hundred twenty five total

1544
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: yards in a game. So how does that's another one

1545
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: of these adjustments. What did they do with Nikouah? I

1546
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: mean because he did that without Adams in the line up,

1547
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: been without Dotson. So yeah, just I can't wait to

1548
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: watch that chess match. I do think. Now, again, it's

1549
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: one football game. Anything can happen, but I do think

1550
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: this the winner of this game is your Super Bowl winner.

1551
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: Well, think think about the Let's say New England wins.

1552
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: New England then has to fly back to New England,

1553
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 2: which is a long flight, and then fly back to

1554
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Well, Seattle and the Rams they never leave

1555
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 2: the time zone. So Seattle wins, they'll just fly down

1556
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: to San Francisco whatever in a week, not a long flight, LA,

1557
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: it's like forty five minutes. I mean, it's it's it's

1558
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 2: a pretty convenient Super Bowl setup for the winner of

1559
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 2: this NFC championship game. That there's no disputing that, right, Yeah.

1560
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: I now here's a question if you don't know, I

1561
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: don't know, if you factor that in with the extra

1562
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: bye week, it makes it a little easier. But that

1563
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: that's cross country flight. Anyone who's made it, just doing

1564
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: it one time, just it's a lot.

1565
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's it's definitely worth mentioning if you were

1566
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots, because I mean, if you I think the

1567
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: let me I'll pull up the hypothetical because we're saying,

1568
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: given this the situation right now, all right, so in

1569
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl right now, the look at lines are

1570
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: literally the same exact price. So the hypotheticals the Rams

1571
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: are minus three and a half minus one oh four

1572
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, the Seahawks are minus three and a

1573
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 1: half minus one oh four against the Patriots, literally identical prices.

1574
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: So from a if you just if you we assume

1575
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: that line is right, then mathematically, just to odds probability,

1576
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: there's no difference in the teams. But who would you

1577
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: want to face, right, Like, historical you go against the

1578
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks historically great defense, but you get to face Sam

1579
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: Darnold or you know, the Rams their defense a little

1580
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: more gettable, but you have to face Stafford and that offense.

1581
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: And I do think that the Rams would benefit immensely

1582
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: from the two week break, right, we just talked about

1583
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,480
Speaker 1: the stretch that they've been on and how like fatigue

1584
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: might be getting catching up a bit, and they've had

1585
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: all that travel all right, they might really benefit from

1586
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: that two weeks. So as good as the Seattle, I

1587
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: don't think there's a huge difference, but his dominant Seattle defenses,

1588
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: I think I would if I could pick from the

1589
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: Patriots or the Broncos, I'm picking Seattle.

1590
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think the shitty part. If you're

1591
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, you're like your offensive line is at least

1592
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 2: equipped to handle the versus the Leonard Williams like you could.

1593
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: The Patriots would be at a big disadvantage against, especially

1594
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: the way Seattle's defensive lines humming, you know, and I

1595
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, Donald is not going to play like C. J.

1596
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: Stroud in a sixty degree Levi Stadium day. So I

1597
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: I think that offensive line, you know, the Rams have

1598
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: had moments where they're off. Their defensive line has disappeared.

1599
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: Now they showed up definitely last game. It felt like that.

1600
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they did a great job on Caleb kind

1601
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: of breaking down, not letting him scramble around. They were

1602
01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 2: excellent against them run. Yeah, I mean I think that Chris.

1603
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Hard for me to see the Broncos having a chance though,

1604
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: like you, I mean, Stida will have a start under

1605
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: his belt. But I think the way that they win

1606
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: this game is, you know, with the home crowd, with

1607
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: their defense against the battle line, and this has to

1608
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: be Peyton kitchen sink. You gotta throw everything at and

1609
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: now you're gonna they're gonna have There's only so much

1610
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: you can do with Stidham after that one game. So

1611
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: it's very difficult for me to see the Broncos beating

1612
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: either of the Seahawks or the Rams. But yeah, if

1613
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: I was the Patriots, I think I would choose the Seahawks.

1614
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: But it's very very close. I mean, the price is

1615
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: literally identical, but I will say from I do hope

1616
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: that it is. We do get the Patriots versus the

1617
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: Rams are Seahawks just from an entertainment and us talking

1618
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: about it perspective.

1619
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: So, uh, you got potentially no power this weekend? Is

1620
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: that what it's looking like?

1621
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: It's close. We're on right on the like fringe of

1622
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: whether it's all snow or if it's ice, and no

1623
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: one really knows, so hopefully it's just snow and it's

1624
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: not like a half inch ice, which would then knock

1625
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: down power lines and trees, which would be an absolute nightmare.

1626
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: What would you do if there's no power on a

1627
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: Sunday during the games?

1628
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I have thirteen portable chargers, but always take

1629
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: out to bar. I would bring out a couple of bars,

1630
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: and I'd lose them in my house. I'd buy more,

1631
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: so I have so many. I found every single one

1632
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: in my house. I'm charging them all so I would

1633
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: be able to watch it on my phone. And I

1634
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: have a gas fireplace, so I'll just be sitting in

1635
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: front of my fireplace watching on my phone, so I'll

1636
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: be able to watch Because the bars, I could get

1637
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: down to my wife's bar. I don't know if they

1638
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: would have power open that up.

1639
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: That's why God made whiskey keep you warm.

1640
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: That's true. So yeah, I'll be able to watch, but

1641
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: it might not be the most ideal setup, but I will.

1642
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: I'll make sure that I have devices charged and ready

1643
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: to stream all day. But hopefully it doesn't come to that.

1644
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1645
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 2: Well, stuck, you enjoy the weekend, stay warm, and we

1646
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 2: will talk soon.

1647
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, get some rest, brother, cheers the volume