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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September thirtieth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now, while she claims to be excited to be hosting,

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Speaker 1: no one has really seen or heard from JP in

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Speaker 2: Kai nan A Stevens, I love to host an extra show.

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Speaker 2: JP is out. He's in South Florida for Monday Night football.

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Speaker 2: So you guys are stuck with me. Kay Nanni Stevens

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Speaker 2: here sitting in for Happy Hour today, presented by Jet

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Speaker 2: Home Loans. Another frustrating loss this week, the Jaguars lead,

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Speaker 2: lose it late to the Texans. They're still searching for

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Speaker 2: their first win of this season. Now, lots of questions

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Speaker 2: about play calling at this point coming up again. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna keep it real a little bit later on in

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Speaker 2: some of your fan questions, there were a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: I tried to get the best ones out there, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna ask Tony and Pete about that coming up.

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Speaker 2: But first we're gonna hear from head coach Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 2: After the game I mentioned play calling brought up once again.

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Speaker 2: Here's it. Doug Peterson had to say, there, kids, you take.

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Speaker 3: The headset over.

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Speaker 4: Just change this thing up for what I thought he'd

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Speaker 4: called a great game. We as coaches, we can't make

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Speaker 4: the we can't go out there and make the plays right.

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Speaker 4: It's a two way street. So you know, you guys

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Speaker 4: can sit here and point the finger all you want,

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Speaker 4: and that's fine. Point it right at me. I can

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Speaker 4: take it. Okay, I can take it. So whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to ask me, say whatever, right, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: You can. You can tell us at your introductory news

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Speaker 5: conference a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: You know, if it's not working, if it's not in rhythm,

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Speaker 3: whether it's your plays or not, that you've end off

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Speaker 3: the play calling.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it just one of those Maybe it's

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Speaker 6: just a voice confidence you guys were cooking when you

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Speaker 6: were doing.

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Speaker 3: It's been look back in twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, okay, I'll take it into consideration.

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Speaker 2: Tense situation there. Let's get things going. We've got the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in here, Tony Boselli with me to day,

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Speaker 2: and of course CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. If

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Speaker 2: you guys haven't been in for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have a show last week after Monday night football.

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Speaker 2: So I know you all have a lot to say,

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Speaker 2: so when I see the floor to you, I want

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Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Kai kai kaka, I have a lot to say. Pete,

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Speaker 3: I know you have a lot to say. As we

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Speaker 3: were talking back and forth, I mean, I think you

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Speaker 3: got to start with just the press conference. We'll start

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Speaker 3: there because it leads to a bunch of other things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, number one, you're own four and I would

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Speaker 3: say this, I think this is the longest start to

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Speaker 3: a season that I can ever remember as a Jaguar. Now,

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Speaker 3: maybe when I was playing so but let's say post

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Speaker 3: playing queer. Because listen, we've been through some bad seasons here,

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Speaker 3: bad football. But there was expectations this year set by

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Speaker 3: the owner first and foremost. You know, everyone in the building.

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Speaker 3: You know it's one of the better teams we've had,

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Speaker 3: so on and so forth. We can talk about that

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Speaker 3: maybe if we want to, But bottom line, there's expectations

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Speaker 3: in my expectations where this would be a team that

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Speaker 3: come December would be fighting for the division championship against

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Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. And at zero to four, I think

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Speaker 3: the high total is what twenty points by the offense, defense,

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Speaker 3: struggles to get off the field, get pressure. They're not

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Speaker 3: good on third down. Offensively, that's not good on third down.

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Speaker 3: And I think yesterday what you saw from Doug Peterson

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Speaker 3: was the accumulation of frustration. And I don't think he

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Speaker 3: handled it great. Like I think, like the last thing

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Speaker 3: you want to do is to even if it's just perception,

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Speaker 3: to make the perception to be that you're blaming the players.

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Speaker 3: And if you go on X and listen to all

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Speaker 3: the fans and all the talking boys, national media as well,

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Speaker 3: it was Doug blaming the players that it's not press,

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Speaker 3: it's not him, it's the players. And I know Doug

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Speaker 3: didn't That's not what he was trying to communicate. He

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Speaker 3: Both sides have to do their job and we got

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Speaker 3: to execute. And it's such a hot topic around here.

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Speaker 3: You know who's calling place. No, he did, I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's what he I don't think that

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Speaker 3: not disagreeing. I don't think he handled it right. I

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Speaker 3: think you saw a frustrated emotional head coach. I don't

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Speaker 3: think the questions were unfair by the media. I mean,

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Speaker 3: my goodness, Doug should be used to it. He came

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Speaker 5: Is brutal, much more brutal.

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Speaker 3: Than anything down here. But the thing that drives me

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Speaker 3: creating this whole play calling, Can we just settle it now?

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Speaker 3: Press Taylor's been calling play since twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he reacted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been calling it from the beginning, and so like,

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Speaker 3: why say that then? I don't know, Pete, I agree

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Speaker 3: that's why I kind of chuckled when Brent was asking

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Speaker 3: the questions that it was cooking when you were calling.

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Speaker 3: I'm like that that's not that's revision is history. When

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Speaker 3: they went on the run, Press, this was calling plays

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Speaker 3: when they were eight and three. Last year, Press was

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Speaker 3: calling plays, And so like this whole thing, whether it's Press,

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Speaker 3: Doug great, like, can we just throw that aside? The

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Speaker 3: bottom line is you can have issues with the play calling,

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Speaker 3: and I have issues with some of the strategy and

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Speaker 3: some of the things we do. I mean Pete does

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Speaker 3: as well. I mean, it's easy for us to do

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Speaker 3: it too after the fact, looking back, saying well, I'd

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Speaker 3: have done this, I'd have done that. Whatever, that's what

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Speaker 3: we do in the NFL. But at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, they're not playing good football. They're not playing

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Speaker 3: good football, they're not playing winning football on defense. I

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Speaker 3: don't care. Everyone says, well, they've only given up so

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Speaker 3: many points, blah blah blah. Okay, great, get off the

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Speaker 3: field again. We got crushed in the time of possession

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Speaker 3: first half. They were on the field the entire first half.

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Speaker 3: Once again, zero created turnovers by the defense. We were

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Speaker 3: gifted seven points by the young punt returner. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the bottom line is it's not good enough. The players

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Speaker 3: aren't playing well enough, the coaches aren't coaching well enough.

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Speaker 3: The GM isn't doing a good enough job. I mean it,

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Speaker 3: like I'm a big believer, you win together and you

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Speaker 3: lose together. And now, if I'm going to default to

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Speaker 3: point the finger at one group more than any other,

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Speaker 3: I always start with the players. I think this is

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Speaker 3: the players league. It's on us as players. We want

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Speaker 3: about us. We play the game. When we win, we

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Speaker 3: should get the credit most of it, and when we lose,

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Speaker 3: we should get most of the blame. Guys have to

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Speaker 3: make plays. That game yesterday we should have won. We said, oh,

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Speaker 3: we should have won Miami. We should have won Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: Oka't you talked about Buffalo that was ugly, But here's

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Speaker 3: the problem. We didn't.

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Speaker 5: So guess what you are.

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Speaker 3: You're an zero to fourteen because if you like, yes,

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Speaker 3: plays are out there to be made, but you gotta

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Speaker 3: make him and we're not doing it right now. And

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Speaker 3: the only way to change is you better get back

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Speaker 3: to the practice field and better changement and change what

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Speaker 3: you're doing and get better, because right now you're not

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Speaker 3: a very good football team.

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Speaker 5: All right, let me first start by what Doug said yesterday.

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Speaker 5: He's created this entire problem for himself by never saying

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Speaker 5: who the play caller was.

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Speaker 3: It started last year. Whoever leaked this last year, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't even know why he became a story ever, Right.

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Speaker 7: He could have put it in the bed before this season

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Speaker 7: is going to call it.

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Speaker 5: Instead, he's all coy about it, and it comes off,

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Speaker 5: it comes off as sophomoric. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 5: By saying doing it the way they're doing it. So

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Speaker 5: then he's asked the question after the game rightfully so,

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Speaker 5: by the way, and he blames the players the players

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Speaker 5: as any leader and any coach in any business. Tony,

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Speaker 5: you work in business. You guys have bosses. You know

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Speaker 5: that you can't go in and blame the employees, and

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Speaker 5: you just can't. You got to take accountability. It's all

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Speaker 5: of us. I'm responsible. Where responsible? Instead said we're doing

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Speaker 5: our job, they're not doing theirs.

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Speaker 7: It's basically what he said. And I don't.

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Speaker 5: I asked if the locker room was open today, because

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Speaker 5: if I was on that beat today, I'd be in

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Speaker 5: there asking every damn player if he felt he was responsible.

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Speaker 5: And he's to blame like this coach has blamed him

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Speaker 5: because that's what he did. So bad, look there, bad

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Speaker 5: look But let's get back to the football. The roster

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Speaker 5: isn't very good right now. Must be real.

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Speaker 7: You know you want to point the blame, Tony. You

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Speaker 7: said you want to blame the players. You can blame

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Speaker 7: the players all you want. It's not a great roster,

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Speaker 7: so start at the top.

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Speaker 5: The drafts haven't been great when you look at it

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Speaker 5: from top to bottom. Where's the where are the top

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Speaker 5: fifteen players in the league in each position. Do you

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Speaker 5: have any Yeah, maybe one or two. It's just not

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Speaker 5: a good roster. And so it starts with the general matter.

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Speaker 5: It starts with the personnel department. Then you want to

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Speaker 5: trickle it down. I have a ton of things to

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Speaker 5: get in with the offense, and then you go to

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Speaker 5: the players. I'm gonna sit here and say it right now.

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Speaker 5: I've been a big defender of Trevor Lawrence. Some's not

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Speaker 5: right there. It's just not right. He has to hit

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Speaker 5: those open shots. He has to hit him. Those are

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Speaker 5: easy throws. He made the right lead, he made the

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Speaker 5: right decision. You have to hit those.

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Speaker 3: Be Let me before you go in.

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Speaker 5: Let me.

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure you're not we're on the

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Speaker 3: same page. When I say blame the players, it's not

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Speaker 3: even blame. It's the player's responsibility. Like I'm not I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to disagree with you. Because we could go

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Speaker 3: through and say, how many top five players that their

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Speaker 3: position do we have on this team, how the top ten,

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Speaker 3: how many top fifteen, and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 3: We could do that, and it probably is not going

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Speaker 3: to be a lot of fun to do. However, when

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Speaker 3: I say it's the player's responsibility because you're not changing

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Speaker 3: the roster. This is not like fantasy football or like, hey,

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Speaker 3: let's go make fifty trades and rebuild our roster. The

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Speaker 3: team is what it is. There is nowhere to go

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Speaker 3: to go get new guys. Maybe a trade.

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Speaker 7: Here or there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe how often does that really happen in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: This isn't Major League Baseball or the NBA where you

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Speaker 3: can do some trade in the middle of season and

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Speaker 3: changing for it. It doesn't work that way. And so, Pete,

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Speaker 3: my point was, we can talk about the structure in

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Speaker 3: the building of this roster, and I know you and

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Speaker 3: I have strong opinions about that, but I'm speaking here

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Speaker 3: and now you have thirteen more games, and Ky, you

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Speaker 3: know this. They're gonna play thirteen more games. They are

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Speaker 3: they Are they canceling anything? Ky, Are they giving us

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Speaker 3: a week off?

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Speaker 3: And so how do you fix it from here? Coaches

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Speaker 3: You just said it. They had two home run shots.

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Speaker 2: Called those plays exactly?

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Speaker 3: Press Taylor? Did he get those guys wide open Pete. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about that pe because I watched the tape.

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Speaker 7: I watched the tape too.

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Speaker 3: I watched the tape first the tank, Tank runs what

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Speaker 3: why they didn't. Tank lined up Pete on second on

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Speaker 7: He ran over Anton Harrison who was on the ground.

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Speaker 3: But my point is it was a nice cut. He

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Speaker 3: He was not. We got blown up, thrown so far

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Speaker 7: But if you maybe if you had a fresh running back.

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Speaker 5: They wrote take guys in and out like like it's

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Speaker 7: Tank walking in okay, but Triff didn't make the block

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Speaker 5: Not good enough.

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Speaker 3: But does that play calling? I'm asking a question you're

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Speaker 7: Question does it play right position?

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Speaker 5: And he's not very good rooting out people in the

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Speaker 2: Or fourth down?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't love the fourth down? Uh draw

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Speaker 3: Bills because the Bills didn't gainst us. It worked, but

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Speaker 3: the Bills play a lot of empty. How often are

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Speaker 7: And Lukh's getting destroyed in that play.

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Speaker 3: I understand that it was funny Pete on in the booth.

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Speaker 3: As soon as they gotten empty, you know what Lock said?

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Speaker 3: Locks said the running quarterback draw.

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Speaker 2: I think we cut on the broadcast too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because they never get empty. They didn't

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Speaker 5: So okay, and then wait for getting third down when

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Speaker 5: one of their free agents that they paid money for

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Speaker 3: There's another point, is that play calling.

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Speaker 5: Pete, No, that's not play call.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So like that's what fairness to him?

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Speaker 7: The play that they designed didn't get anybody open.

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Speaker 5: He had to like run to the rams clear across

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Speaker 3: I get that, but how hard is it to get

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Speaker 5: It's hard, It's hard.

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Speaker 7: But he was I mean, he should have caught the ball,

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Speaker 5: If he catches the ball, game and the quarterback walks

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Speaker 3: But that's the league. That's the NFL. The difference is

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Speaker 2: To just a couple of plays and not making mistakes.

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Speaker 7: I got a hold.

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Speaker 2: I know you do.

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Speaker 5: I wrote down from that, I.

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Speaker 3: Get the breakdown. We can't do what we do the

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Speaker 3: JP where we just bullym Kai is like she's a professional.

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Speaker 5: JP's not. Well, I'm here for.

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Speaker 2: gonna talk a little bit about Trevor Lawrence coming up,

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Speaker 3: Moones I saw I.

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Speaker 8: Have to watch it. You know, both both felt good

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Speaker 8: they've played a lot of man coverage, which is something

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Speaker 8: You get your players have a chance to go win

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Speaker 8: So uh yeah, it was just just missed a few.

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Speaker 2: It's a quarterback, Trevor Lawrence chiming in after the game,

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Speaker 2: be here for a while. I signed a big, long

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Speaker 3: So I'm laughing because I like it. He's gonna be

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Speaker 2: Billion dollars, that's not one of the changes we're gonna say, not.

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Speaker 3: Like he's your quarterback and I'll let Pete wagh in

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Speaker 2: Though he has the ability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tank had seven attempts ninety yards team, he's.

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Speaker 5: He's become a better runner. He was much better now.

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Speaker 5: But Tony, it goes back to and nobody plays just

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Speaker 3: Well guess what.

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Speaker 5: They were just they just called in the hockey line,

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Speaker 2: You're playing that sometimes.

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Speaker 2: I do. I'm not sure I understand it either.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever been tired after three plays in your life?

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Speaker 3: No? Well, I played a position where you played every

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Speaker 5: Or of them Max Crosby, he still does the well.

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Speaker 3: like in question. Their rush package was Eric Armstead at end,

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Speaker 3: any rush at end at all, Roy Robinson Harris at

440
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Speaker 3: end ledbetter and I believe it was Mason Smith.

441
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Speaker 5: Who actually flashed in that game.

442
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Speaker 3: And then they rotated and they put Armstead inside and

443
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Speaker 3: brought Abdullah that's the other rusher. And I'm like, no one,

444
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Speaker 3: I mean, CJ just sat back there. There was no

445
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Speaker 3: pressure at the end of the game.

446
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Speaker 5: When you have all that group right there, and it's

447
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Speaker 5: not even with when hinds Allen's on the field, it's

448
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Speaker 5: not an explosive group.

449
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Speaker 7: Their power put Josh Allen is behinds Allen.

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Speaker 5: He's a good player and he's getting pressures and he

451
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Speaker 5: and he and he did some good things, but he's

452
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Speaker 5: not an explosive edge rusher. And Trayvon Walker is not

453
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Speaker 5: an explosive edge rusher. Then you put Armstead in there.

454
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Speaker 5: He should be playing three technique. But I don't want

455
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Speaker 5: to be a defensive end, so they're going to allow

456
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Speaker 5: me to play defense. That's why I signed my contract here.

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Speaker 5: I don't get it.

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Speaker 7: I just don't get any of it. It makes no

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Speaker 7: sense to me.

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Speaker 2: They're getting a lot of play from some of these

461
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Speaker 2: younger players too, because while he's rotating everybody in now

462
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Speaker 2: with all the injuries on defense, we saw it, Excuse me,

463
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Speaker 2: we saw a lot more from Ventrel Miller. Monterak Brown's

464
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Speaker 2: out there a ton. Now what's your analysis of some

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Speaker 2: of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, the two best players on defense

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Speaker 3: in my opinion on Sunday were Monterak Brown and Ventro Miller.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, those are two best players on the field.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as far as performance, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Before Josh got hurt, Josh is Josh is good every

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Speaker 3: I mean, he is physical, he's good against the run,

472
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Speaker 3: he pushes the pocket, he gets pressure. I'd like him

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Speaker 3: to see him get a little bit more on the

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Speaker 3: edge more often. But he won a couple times immediately

475
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Speaker 3: and the ball was gone before you even get there,

476
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Speaker 3: and so there's nothing he can do about that. But

477
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Speaker 3: so we know he's we know who Josh he's probably.

478
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's the best player on the team right now.

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Speaker 3: Join Zound's the best player the team.

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Speaker 5: And if you had a speed guy on the other

481
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Speaker 5: side who could provide, you would see him getting a

482
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Speaker 5: guy who could win up the field and push the

483
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Speaker 5: quarterback toward him. He'd get a lot more sacks coming

484
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Speaker 5: at him because he's such a power player.

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Speaker 3: But in Sunday's game, Ventro Miller. I mean he had

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Speaker 3: a couple coverage issues at times, like he could see

487
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Speaker 3: in his in some of his drops, it looked like

488
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Speaker 3: it was a little off. I'm not an expert on that,

489
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Speaker 3: but talking to Jeff, that's what it looked.

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Speaker 5: Like to me.

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Speaker 3: But as far as they just playing with speed and aggressiveness,

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Speaker 3: I mean he made like I felt like he made

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Speaker 3: every tackle.

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Speaker 2: And just had brought a little pop. It felt like

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Speaker 2: he brought energy.

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Speaker 3: He brought energy out there. And then Montery Brown kudos

497
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Speaker 3: is the kid. I mean, he's played. He Tyson Campbell

498
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Speaker 3: gets hurt, he comes into the starter and I remember thinking, like,

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Speaker 3: what's going to happen here? He's the best corner on

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Speaker 3: the team right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's physical too. He's not a big guy.

503
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Speaker 3: He comes up and stick his head in there and

504
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Speaker 3: makes tackle. I saw something that he had like all

505
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Speaker 3: these breakups again this week, and like the quarterbacks completion

506
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Speaker 3: percentage when they went towards him was terrible. I'm highly

507
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Speaker 3: impressed with both those guys. I think they've played really

508
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Speaker 3: good football. It's positive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. But okay, you mentioned Ventre Miller because

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Speaker 5: I before I watch the tape. I saw, you know,

511
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Speaker 5: I watched the game, but I wanted to watch and

512
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Speaker 5: I saw all the you mentioned the past past defense.

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Speaker 5: There are things like I'll give you example, the shot

514
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Speaker 5: to Schultz in the middle of the field. I think

515
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Speaker 5: it was he was he kind of took a step

516
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Speaker 5: to the left and he's got to stay there and

517
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Speaker 5: get a little.

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Speaker 3: Dep But do you think those are things he'll figure

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Speaker 3: out as he plays correct?

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Speaker 7: Correct?

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Speaker 5: But he got he was aggressive, he thumped, he came up.

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Speaker 5: He made plays in the backfield. When was the last

523
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Speaker 5: time you saw linebackers making plays in the backfield like that?

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Speaker 5: I mean that that.

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Speaker 7: I agree, Tony. So what do you do?

526
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Speaker 5: What's your what? What do you do?

527
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Speaker 3: I don't think I don't take him off the field, So.

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Speaker 5: Who says out for four more weeks? So you don't

529
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Speaker 5: ben he was back, Let's just let's spin it forward.

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Speaker 3: If he's back right now based on play, I don't

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Speaker 3: like the decision you're making. Is Foyer or Devon It's

532
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Speaker 3: not I mean it's not or Muma. It's like Ventrel

533
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Speaker 3: is the that getting Now it's a small sample side,

534
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Speaker 3: So let's see him do it multiple weeks in a row.

535
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Speaker 5: Right, But just if we're.

536
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Speaker 3: Just gauging it from what we've seen, he's he gives

537
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Speaker 3: you something no one else has, which is speed and thump.

538
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Speaker 3: Now Devon has thump, but he's not can't run like Ventrarew.

539
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Speaker 5: You saw him trying to chase Dalton Kinkaid and Buffalo.

540
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Speaker 5: He can't cover him.

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Speaker 3: You can't. Uh, Foyer is the smartest player on our

542
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Speaker 3: team as far as like knowing everywhere, and so he's

543
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Speaker 3: always in the right position. So it makes him play

544
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Speaker 3: even faster than he probably is. And so I don't

545
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Speaker 3: know how you take Foyer off the field when he's healthy,

546
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Speaker 3: because I think he's your Like I didn't understand why

547
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Speaker 3: they were rotating him.

548
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing is, like I completely understand your conversation,

549
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Speaker 2: and normal linebacking group, they would play a lot of

550
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Speaker 2: those places the way they rotate them.

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Speaker 3: Which I disagree with one thousand. I do not think.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I mean I would, Like I'm not a

553
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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, never been one, but I played a lot

554
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Speaker 3: of football and been around the game a long time.

555
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Speaker 3: You don't take your best linebacker off the field, ever, No,

556
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Speaker 3: you just don't.

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Speaker 5: By the way, they better be careful. They're gonna get

558
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Speaker 5: called for too many men on the ice. The better

559
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Speaker 5: be really careful Andy with a shift change. Yeah, that's

560
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Speaker 5: what they always talk about, how they they're like a

561
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Speaker 5: hockey hockey team with the rotation, too many men on

562
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Speaker 5: the ice. Look as far as Ben trum Miller, here's

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Speaker 5: the interesting case scenario that they got a big They

564
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Speaker 5: got a team that comes in this week. They're pretty

565
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Speaker 5: physical upfront. We'll see how he does in the run

566
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Speaker 5: game against Jonathan Taylor. That's a good test for him, Tony, I.

567
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Speaker 3: Don't and they have a good offensive line. Yeah, they're physical,

568
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Speaker 3: they have a good back. Now he's nursing the high

569
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Speaker 3: mild high ankle sprain, but it sounds like he's gonna

570
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Speaker 3: play based on all the reports early.

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Speaker 7: So if he plays well, and is Lloyd gonna play

572
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Speaker 7: this week?

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Speaker 3: Does it sound like we don't know?

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Speaker 5: We haven't a people he plays, which who plays, who starts?

575
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Speaker 7: That's the question.

576
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Speaker 5: So Ventrel and Muma, well, now let's go back to

577
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 5: the personnel department again, because you trade it up to

578
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 5: go get that guy and he wouldn't be on the field.

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Speaker 7: What the hell?

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Speaker 5: What what the heck? You?

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Speaker 3: You? You and I could have a three hour show

582
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Speaker 3: on just some of the decisions from that standpoint. But

583
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Speaker 3: let's focus on what he what. Let's focus on what

584
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Speaker 3: they do they do this season?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I like focusing on all the I know. I'll

586
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Speaker 7: give you another one.

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Speaker 5: I watched the Jets yesterday. Quincy Williams is flying all

588
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Speaker 5: over the field. They could have kept him on the roster.

589
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Speaker 5: They had a draft and spend all the day of

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Speaker 5: money they've done on that line they've done on that

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Speaker 5: linebacker position. Bete.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to argue when we come back, though, because

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Speaker 3: we started this with a Trevor Lawrence clip. We need

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Speaker 3: to dig into the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: A little bit. I gotta talk about that her, about

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Speaker 5: that we went off with a team apologize.

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Speaker 7: We apologize to her, don't we like it?

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Speaker 3: We never ever apologize JP, because frankly, it's JP. It's JP.

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Speaker 2: dealing with and how to fix them. Coming up here

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Speaker 2: on Happy Hour.

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Speaker 6: Start worrying about.

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Speaker 5: Your stab at this point in.

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Speaker 4: My status, Yeah, after an own report start.

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Speaker 5: I mean no, I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of a strange question, but okay, it's your.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Peterson weighing in on his job status after

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Speaker 2: the game. I need you to enjoy that, Peter Tony.

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Speaker 5: I saw the last night.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you're supposed to answer that if

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Speaker 3: you're Doug.

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Speaker 2: It's a very awkward question.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, Pete, I think, like and I

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's the right question after like it's

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Speaker 3: too early for that. Like if you like, that's the

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Speaker 3: question when you're like one and seven or two and

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Speaker 3: six or you know, three and ten, I mean whatever,

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Speaker 3: but after four games, I just don't think that's the

625
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Speaker 3: right question.

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Speaker 7: That's why was that was that d Rock?

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Speaker 3: It was from ESPN, and I love d Rock, love

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Speaker 3: them and and it's a good comic relief because if

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Speaker 3: Doug's answer like just you didn't know what he's like okay,

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Speaker 3: But Pete, I mean you're you're a pro, You're a

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Speaker 3: pro media guy. I'm just an amateur media guy. I

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Speaker 3: mean it was is that a little early to ask

633
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Speaker 3: that question?

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Speaker 5: It's little to ask it that I would have done

635
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Speaker 5: it in a different way and my usual way to

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Speaker 5: get the answer I needed to get out of him.

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Speaker 5: What you say is there's a lot of chatter around

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Speaker 5: about your job security, and do you think it's something

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00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: you need to be worried about that way?

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Speaker 7: But but look, it's Tony, It's out there.

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Speaker 5: People are calling for his head. Let me.

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Speaker 7: Right, Is it early to be calling for his head?

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Speaker 5: Probably?

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Speaker 3: I think it's early.

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Speaker 5: I think their venom might be directed in the wrong place.

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Speaker 2: It is only a month. In gentlemen, it's a month.

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Speaker 3: It feels like it's like dog where should be directed

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Speaker 3: at the general manager?

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Speaker 5: He's been around through thick and thin and thick and thin,

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Speaker 5: and he's the guy. There's one constant it was, wasn't

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00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: he here.

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00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 7: With Doug Moreau?

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00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 5: Dave calledwell? Tom? Call urban Meyer?

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Speaker 3: He wasn't here with Tom. He was not here. Tom.

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Speaker 3: He was here, Dave and Doug he was no, he

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Speaker 3: was not I think he was I know he was.

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Speaker 3: I'll bet you, I'll bet you money. Tom got fired

658
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Speaker 3: the next year. The next year Dave Dave brought.

659
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Speaker 2: Him in what Peak fact check? Hold on one second, Okay, sorry,

660
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to check in with the MVP at

661
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Speaker 2: the truck game. Better check out the twenty twenty four

662
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Speaker 2: Ford F one fifty loaded with impressive capability and game

663
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Speaker 2: changing tech. You can dominate work playing everything in between

664
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Speaker 2: test drive and F one fifty at your local Ford dealer.

665
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Speaker 2: Proud partner of the Jacksonville.

666
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Speaker 3: Jaguars, drove it here today. Absolutely Ford. Let's talk about

667
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: the quarterback as you're fact checking. Maybe you can be

668
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: on the vice president debate later. You can fact check

669
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Speaker 3: that too.

670
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Speaker 2: Tony Actually have a question for you about him, because

671
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: I felt like the offensive line, I mean, as by

672
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: the eye test, I didn't see them being awful as

673
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: other points in the year we saw him being a problem.

674
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: I felt maybe this was their best game that we've

675
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: seen as a whole. But when you're trevor Or Trevor

676
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: Lawrence and you know maybe that they aren't, you've had

677
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: the issues with them in the past, does that get

678
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: in your head mentally? Does that affect that if you

679
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: play well, it's still in his head.

680
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: It shouldn't, but there's a cultive effect. I mean, the

681
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: first three games they were not good Buffalo, they were

682
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: just I think they had twenty one pressures if I'm

683
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: not mistaken, twenty twenty one, some big number. And so

684
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: guy gets hit too much, starts looking at the rush

685
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, Ice come down. Yeah, that's a problem.

686
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: And so I don't think that was like I didn't

687
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: notice Trevor all over the place. I mean, he had

688
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: the one weird pirouette where he's running around.

689
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know if some of the airmails are him,

690
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: like worried about that or it's just something out.

691
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: That's no excuse. Okay, he cannot have that excuse. As

692
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: far as the offensive link, I think you're right. I

693
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: thought it was their best game. They rushed for over

694
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty yards no sacks.

695
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, was wrong. I was wrong. He was. He came

696
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty ms. God okay, but let's so okay.

697
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 5: Let's then we'll eliminate Tom Caldwell Urban Urban Doug and

698
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 5: then right, that's done, and let's not forget Rick Spielman

699
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 5: was gonna come and he didn't come for a reason.

700
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: That's yeah, I got you.

701
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, look, you get it.

702
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Speaker 5: And so when you look at it, Tony, who's the

703
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 5: blame for the roster the person department.

704
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: That's the gas job. Yes, that's the job.

705
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: So if the venom is that Doug, it should be

706
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: just as more, if not even more, at the general manager.

707
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think everyone's getting their equal due on X.

708
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: So I've seen everyone's name everyone. But but pet, let's

709
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: talk about Trevor, because Ki brought up a great point.

710
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Trevor frankly was not very good. Now, you're right,

711
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: if Gabe Davis catches that ball's probably a different name arrative.

712
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: But I don't think the narrative changes. That he missed

713
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: two touchdowns that were wide open, and there was a

714
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: couple of balls that his receivers had to make acrobatic

715
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: catches for short gains. And now he made some really

716
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: nice throws too.

717
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 7: The touchdown, there's no reason you can't hit this one.

718
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous, this one or that same one, the

719
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: same one, Yeah, the next one.

720
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Speaker 5: The Kirk, he's got to hit that.

721
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Speaker 3: The Kirk one was almost worse to me because he

722
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: was so open there was no safety over the top.

723
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Speaker 3: But Kyle was asking, is he see he? Is he

724
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: looking at the rush? Is that the problem? Because the

725
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: offensive line has not been good, but they were really

726
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: good on Sunday, No like, almost no pressure at all,

727
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: ran the ball. I mean, they did their job and

728
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: he should have operated. The Texans are playing man, I

729
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: mean he should have shredded them, and that he did not.

730
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Speaker 3: And he's just not playing good foot right now. He's

731
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: not playing good enough to win.

732
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

733
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Speaker 5: I think I think Buffalo he got a little shell

734
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: shocked up there. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you know

735
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: the mechanics when he gets he's a long strider, and

736
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 5: so if you watch his mechanics when he gets mechanically

737
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: sped up, he starts throwing high passes and inaccurate, and

738
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 5: he's inaccurate. He's hurried up. And I think that carried

739
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: even though he didn't need to be on Sunday, Tony,

740
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: that kind of carries over when he like the one

741
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: to Kirk, that's a play action. Turned your body and

742
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 5: fire a shot down there where you give him a

743
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 5: little air and let him run under it. And mechanically

744
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 5: that's not you could tell he's not setting his feet

745
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 5: and there were moments where he's hopping. I just mechanically,

746
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 5: I think he's having problems another quarterback whisper or anything.

747
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 5: But he's a long strider and I think that's part

748
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 5: of the problem. You know, you mentioned the one. How

749
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 5: about the one on the sideline. This one was really

750
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 5: weird to me, the one on the side. And the

751
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: body language was terrible by Thomas too. He's running down

752
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Speaker 5: the right sideline.

753
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: Didn't give him a chance.

754
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 7: Well, he's gotta be able to eat.

755
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 5: That's gotta have a little air on it, because he

756
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 5: threw it like on a.

757
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 7: On a shot.

758
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right here, it's not it's did he turn

759
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: the right way? I don't know. I have no idea,

760
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: but the ball was out of bound. I mean it

761
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: was almost like.

762
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 7: And the body language look at it.

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Speaker 5: The body language is terrible and it's almost like you

764
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 5: can see his wide receivers and start. I didn't get

765
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 5: a little frustrated with him, which makes him, I think,

766
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 5: press even more. This ball has to be in the inside.

767
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 5: It's got to be to the inside there. It's just

768
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 5: a miss. And and they're they're missing too many the

769
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 5: receivers one on Sunday and didn't get the the you

770
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: know the passes. I think he sped up Buffalo. I'm

771
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 5: gonna criticize the receivers a little bit. He was getting well.

772
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Speaker 5: The offensive life was terrible. And you know what else

773
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 5: they do, Tony, when teams play z own and Buffalo

774
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 5: plays a lot a ton of zone, they run to

775
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 5: through the zone instead of sitting down, and they run

776
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: right into a man.

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00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 7: They're terrible at it, terrible And that's a problem.

778
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: What do you do with Trevor?

779
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: What?

780
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: What's the fixed? Pete? I got an idea, but I

781
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: want to hear yours first, because my guess is I'm

782
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: gonna disagree with whatever you say. But go ahead.

783
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: Why are you gonna disagree with me because I haven't.

784
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 7: You want to run the ball?

785
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: Pete's answer always kai is like spread it out, speed

786
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: it up, go fast, throw it around, get going. And

787
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: that's not the answer.

788
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something here, Okay,

789
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: Sam Donald, Right, I'm gonna use this. I'm gonna use this.

790
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: Sam Donald was it ok?

791
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 5: But he wasn't very good in his last couple of stops,

792
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 5: even though he's a Trojan and you.

793
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: Love him m VP candidate right now.

794
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 7: So on Sunday, yea, he is the m v P

795
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 7: right now.

796
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 5: And on Sunday the Packers sack him, sack and cause

797
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 5: the fumble, get it turned over. I saw your I

798
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 5: saw your twenty and all of a sudden, you look around.

799
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: You go, Sam Donald's becoming Sam Donald again. But what

800
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: does Kevin O'Connell do. He throws it six of the

801
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: next seven plays, they get a field goal, game over.

802
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: That's not the way Jacksonville want. They don't let that.

803
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: Let that happen twice, and then put him at third

804
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: and law pete.

805
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: This is my problem with your your comparison, Sam donal

806
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: Sam Donald. Sam Donald has been around and has been

807
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: beat the hell and he's had to learn the hard

808
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: way through multiple teams, people giving up on him. And

809
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: I think he's found the right situation. I always thought

810
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: he was a good player, and I was biased because

811
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm an SC guy. And I think he's now in

812
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: a system with the head coach, in a place where

813
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: you know, going in not a ton of pressure because

814
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: everyone thought the rookie was going to be, you know,

815
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: the guy there. He had a great preseason where he

816
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: gets hurt and he's saying, hey, I'm gonna take advantage

817
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: of my shot, like it's almost I'm sure there's a

818
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: little bit of him feeling like I'm playing with house,

819
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: like no one thinks where I'm gonna do anything. Everyone

820
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: has labeled me as a first round bust. I can

821
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: just go play with freedom. I don't think Trevor's playing

822
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: with freedom. I think it looks like he has the

823
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: weight of the world on him. And so the last

824
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: thing I think you do when a guy is like that,

825
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: because I again, I believe in Trevor. I think he

826
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 3: is super talented. I think he has right mentality. I

827
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: think he wants to be good. I think he is pressing.

828
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: I think he is he's not confident, and I think

829
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: he's the weight of the world right now. Signed a

830
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: big deal, all the expectations, all the things going on,

831
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: and so I think you go the opposite. I'll be like, hey, listen,

832
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: just relax. We're gonna we're gonna run the ball, we're

833
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: gonna be physical, we're gonna play good field position football,

834
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: and you know we're gonna ask you to make some plays,

835
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: but we're not gonna put the whole thing on you.

836
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: And we're gonna play action pass, we're gonna move the pocket,

837
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: and we're gonna do things and let him get some confidence.

838
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: Let him see it's like a it's like a three

839
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: point shoot. Who can't hit the broadside of a barn? Like, hey,

840
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 3: let's go get some layups, get some mid range show like,

841
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: let's take some easy one. See the ball go through.

842
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 3: Who get fould shoot a couple of free throw shots,

843
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: See the ball go in. And I think you need

844
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: Trevor to get some opportunities to see success.

845
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 5: You want to turn you want to turn him in

846
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 5: with the Chargers have turned justin Herbert into.

847
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: No, I didn't say Pete. I'm not saying that. I'm

848
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: saying this is the process where you get him to

849
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 3: the player he should be. He's not that right now.

850
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: So I'm a big believer. Don't ask guys to do

851
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: things that they can't do right now.

852
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 5: So well, okay, but if he can't do it, like

853
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 5: you're saying he can't do it, then you've got a

854
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 5: major problem on your hands.

855
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: No, he can do it right now in that where

856
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: he's at all. Right, we gotta go to a break.

857
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: Let's go. I want to finish this conversation because I

858
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: want to talk about Pete. I want you to pick

859
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: apart what I would do with Trevor.

860
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: All right, stay with us here and Happy Hour coming

861
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: up after the break. We will give you the details

862
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: how to fix things with Trevor Lawrence. Welcome back into

863
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour person by jet Home Loans. I'm kind

864
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: of Anni Stephen than for J. P. Shaddrick today, Pete Prisco,

865
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: Tony BISSELLI are here with me trying to answer your

866
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: questions for you. We'll get to some fanatics fan questions

867
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: in the next hour, but right now we're still trying

868
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: to figure out exactly what to do with sixteen. You

869
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: guys are differing philosophies. Pete, you didn't give us your

870
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: full philosophy. What do you think we should do with the.

871
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 5: Here's one that that bothers me to no end is

872
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Speaker 5: they don't throw the ball into the middle of the

873
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: field at all. Now, whether that's by design, they're afraid

874
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: of him. They don't think the protection in the middle

875
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: is good enough. I don't know why, but you go

876
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 5: back to the Miami game, Kirk hit a shot in

877
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: the middle of the field. Even last week, two weeks

878
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 5: ago in Buffalo late you know, third quarter, when they

879
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 5: got it rolled a little bit, he hit a shot

880
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 5: to Kirk in the middle of the field.

881
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 7: They don't throw it in the middle of the field enough.

882
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: And that's that's part. I think if they did some

883
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: things differently, and we've seen what Brian Thomas could do,

884
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 5: that kid's is going to be a star. He can

885
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 5: run crossers, he can go down the field, he can

886
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 5: run into the middle of the now was a great

887
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: route runner. No, but that's coming. And so I think

888
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 5: you need to use those guys down in the middle

889
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 5: of the field too much.

890
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 7: It's too much to the sideline. And I don't know why.

891
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

892
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 7: The answer to that is design.

893
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 5: Is it him? Are they afraid of him throwing it

894
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 5: into the middle of the field, because I think there's

895
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: opportunities there. So if you did something like that, that's

896
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: you know, And I Tony, you know, I'm always a

897
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 5: big believer in taking shots on first down. Yep uh.

898
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 5: And if you do take a shot on first down,

899
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 5: there's no obligatory NFL rule that says you have to

900
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: run it on second down to have it better for

901
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: manageable and third down like every team in the league does.

902
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 5: So I just think if you allow him the best

903
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 5: he's ever played is win.

904
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: The best second half of twenty two.

905
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 7: And what's the best game he's ever.

906
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: Had second half of the Chargers game after the worst

907
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: the whole.

908
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: Game, what's the best hole game he's ever had.

909
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 7: That's a good question.

910
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and look, guy, you stumped me.

911
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: But he's had some where he's thrown for three thirty

912
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. When was the last time Trevor

913
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 5: Lawrence was thrown for thre hundred yards in a game?

914
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: It's been a lot like Texans last year?

915
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 3: Maybe did he even get three hundred?

916
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had one where he was like three twenty

917
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 5: eight or something I think last year. But but the

918
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 5: bottom line is, if you turn him into a restrictive

919
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 5: quarterback and you're paying him that kind of money, you're

920
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: doing a disservice a to your organization and you're doing

921
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 5: the disservice to the kid.

922
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: So, Peter, let me be clear, because I've said it

923
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: three times now, I think he can do it. I

924
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: think he can be the guy. I'm talking like, how

925
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: do you get him there? And I think you got

926
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: to take a little bit of pressure and let him

927
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 3: take a deep breath and relax and say, we're gonna

928
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: come out. We're gonna run the ball, we're gonna get

929
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: the screen game going. We're gonna get some vertical and

930
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: I know you hate this, Pete, these horizontal but I'm

931
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: just saying, and hey, get some zone reads, get some

932
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: quarterback reads. The guy's athletic look on how he played

933
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: it Clemson running around, making plays like get him into

934
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: the game a little bit with some play action pass,

935
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: running the ball and so he can get He has

936
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 3: no confidence right now, at least my view of watching

937
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: him play. It's like it's like the weight of the

938
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: world is on him and he is not executing and

939
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: it just is piling up. So it's like, Okay, take

940
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: a deep breath, dude, you're good. We all believe in you.

941
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: You're fine. We're gonna run the ball, We're in a

942
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: plaction pass, we're gonna run screens. We're gonna get some

943
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: easy completions, and then maybe Pete, you get some success

944
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: and start moving the ball and doing some things, then

945
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 3: you can open it up more. But I just think

946
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: right now, just opening it up and asking him to

947
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: take deep shots and throw it around the yard is

948
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: a recipe for disaster because he is not he's not executing.

949
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I can play the flip side of that,

950
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 5: Tony and say, your philosophy if you go run, run,

951
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 5: get to get two and then go make a play

952
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: and now you're third and long, And that's a recipe

953
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: for disaster.

954
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: It's based on a personality, and I don't think I

955
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: don't know Trevor well enough to know what he'll respond

956
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: well to. I think sometimes taking the pressure off by

957
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: putting it on other people's helpful. But some people want

958
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: maybe they want to get in a rhythm, they want

959
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: more reps. So I don't know which he would respond

960
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: to best, But I think both interesting points of view

961
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: in the sense that one of those I hope would work.

962
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: But also Trevor needs to take some Do you think

963
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: he needs to take some bonus on himself, Pete, you're

964
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: talking about some of his mechanics. Is he need to

965
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: alter some of what he's doing well?

966
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 5: I think part of the mechanical problems is stem from

967
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: the bad offensive line play over the last couple of

968
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: years and him being injured. I mean when you're a

969
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 5: long strider and you watch him, he's a long strider,

970
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 5: and that means he needs to be pretty clean in

971
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 5: the pocket. And so when you're got a long strider,

972
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 5: that you need protection. And I think when the protection waned.

973
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 5: You saw it in Buffalo, he got out of some

974
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: pockets where he felt pressure that wasn't there. Well, that's

975
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: because you got hit all the nice Yeah.

976
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 7: That means you're starting to see but you're also starting

977
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 7: to see ghosts.

978
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 5: And that happens to guy. So I think, Tony, if

979
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 5: you dictate tempo, you minimize that. Now on Sunday, I'm

980
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 5: gonna give you that. I thought the offensive line played

981
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: for that group. They played really good football for that group.

982
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: You know, my biggest concern, Pete, the way I think

983
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: about it, And I am so biased because I think

984
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: this is how you play football. I just think you

985
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: run the ball, you control, control the line of scrimmage,

986
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: you take your shots off a play action pass. You know,

987
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: in different philosophy. I'm not saying that, but I'm not

988
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: sure we're built that way to do it. And so Pete,

989
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: you might be right. Maybe it's better just to open

990
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: it up and go to town. And live and live or

991
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: die with it. But I'll just go back to because

992
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: everyone thinks that he asked. I mean, you paid him

993
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: the money. It is what it is, you paid it.

994
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: He's not performing at that level yet, Okay, that doesn't

995
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: mean he's a bust. That doesn't mean it's over. I

996
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: can go through the history of this league, and I'll

997
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: just use an example of the greatest quarterback to ever play,

998
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: Tom Brady and Pete. You know this. The first five

999
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: years of his career, that team was built around running

1000
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: the ball and playing great defense, was it not, Pete? Yeah,

1001
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: And then the guy got better and better, got confidence,

1002
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he became the goat. He

1003
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: became Tom Brady that we now remember the last fifteen

1004
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: years of his career. Now he played for one hundred years.

1005
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: So you had the opportunity to do that. Yes, And

1006
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: so I'm not saying to dumb it down. I'm not

1007
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: saying to tell Trevor you can't do it. So we're

1008
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: gonna switch everything we do, Like I like what we

1009
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: did against Houston. Let's run the ball, let's get it going,

1010
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 3: let's get play action passes, Let's get some shots around

1011
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: the field. Where he gets some early success so that

1012
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: he's feeling it and then you can open it up

1013
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: a little bit more.

1014
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just concerned about their ability to run it consistently.

1015
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: It's a fair point, Pete. I can't argue that.

1016
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: Lots of opinions, lots of options. We're going to talk

1017
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: all things out. We're an hour and we still get

1018
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: a second hour of Jaguars Happy How we're gonna keep

1019
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: it real. The fanatic stand questions are ahead of us

1020
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 2: as well. All that right here on Happy Hour. Stick

1021
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: with us.

1022
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 5: It's frustrated.

1023
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 8: It's not going our way and we weren't able to

1024
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 8: find a way to win this game. We had some

1025
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 8: mistakes out there. Yeah, but we just have to stay together.

1026
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 8: It's gonna teach us something, it's gonna prepare us for

1027
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 8: the future, and and stay positive. I mean, there were

1028
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 8: things that we did well today and we just have

1029
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 8: to do more of it, you know. And I don't

1030
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 8: think we need to we need to blow everything up

1031
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 8: and start over like we you know, we got good players,

1032
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 8: we had we have a good scheme. Offensively, we had

1033
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 8: great things today and we just got to consistently make

1034
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 8: those plays. You know. I thought We had a lot

1035
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 8: of opportunities, so just keep keep working. That's the that's

1036
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 8: the message, Just keep working.

1037
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: This week, frustration all around here. I'm kind Nanni Steven's

1038
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: in for JP Shadrick today. Tony Bisselli and Pete Prisco

1039
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 2: are with me. This is the second hour of Jaguars

1040
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: Happy Hour, presented by Mister Tubby's Wings. Before the game,

1041
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: after the game. During the game, absolutely want to check

1042
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: them out. Let's go over some of the topics of

1043
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: the day. It's troublesome here. They're owing for this team,

1044
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: still searching for their first win of the year. They

1045
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: led against the Texans, had a great opportunity right off

1046
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: the bat after the muff punt they able to get

1047
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: an early touchdown to Brian Thomas Junior. Kind of finally

1048
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: felt like that was maybe that moment, the momentum shift

1049
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: they'd been looking for because they looked so listless on

1050
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: Monday Night football. And they did Okay, they did some

1051
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: good things. We saw some plays from Brian Thomas Junior

1052
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: touchdown to Kirk Christian Kirk as well. Tank Bigsby had

1053
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: a great game, including a big fifty eight yard run,

1054
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: but again couldn't convert on third down, a lot had trouble,

1055
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: couldn't convert on that fourth and one, and then c J.

1056
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: Stroud just coming back with that game winning drive. I

1057
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: think we all kind of felt that off the top,

1058
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: and I want to speak for you guys, but that

1059
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: feeling of when c J. Stroud got the ball Tonya

1060
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: in the building, it kind of felt like when he

1061
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: got it, you were like, oh, he's gonna go score

1062
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: at this point.

1063
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kid's good. I mean, he he has good receivers.

1064
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: Nico Collins is man, he's good.

1065
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what's amazing about it. He didn't

1066
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 5: even he didn't even play that well on Sunday and

1067
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 5: you look up sixty yards or whatever hit throwing.

1068
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 3: It well, then I mean they they are so undisciplined,

1069
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: and they up front their offensive line, golly, they just

1070
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 3: killed boy. The left guard was terrible, terrible, golly bad,

1071
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: which is all.

1072
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: The more the point. Their offensive line didn't look great

1073
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: and we only got one and that extra sac from leadbetter,

1074
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 2: so that Roy Robinson Harrison's.

1075
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we forre some holes though, so that's positive. But yeah,

1076
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean it was We're not a It's one of

1077
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: the reasons we have no turnovers because we don't pressure

1078
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: very well. You create turnovers by creating pressure on the quarterback.

1079
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 5: And well, here's the other part of that is, you

1080
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 5: know we talk about Trevor. When CJ. Stroud scrambles, he

1081
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: somehow always seems to keep his head up in fire

1082
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: or shot down the field.

1083
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: That's a good point. He's always looking to continue to throw.

1084
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes when Trevor's moving, he's just trying

1085
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: to get away. He's not looking, hey, how can extend

1086
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: this play?

1087
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, that has to change. That's something.

1088
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: It's a great point.

1089
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: Has to change for him.

1090
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: And remind me a little bit. I don't know if

1091
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: you think this, but I feel like Lamar Jackson used

1092
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 2: to do that a little bit earlier in his career.

1093
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: He would run to run and then kind of adapted

1094
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: and became able to elude people and then continue to

1095
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: want to throw. And maybe that's something he can learn

1096
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: as it goes along.

1097
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the big difference there, and I think you're

1098
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: probably right. Lamar ran like four to three, so he

1099
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: was better. He was a better running back the most

1100
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: of running backs in the league.

1101
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 5: But here's the other thing about and this is something

1102
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 5: I've noticed just watching quarterbacks over the years, c J.

1103
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 5: Stroud and Jade and Daniels both make it look so

1104
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: effortless and easy, and it's not even when.

1105
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 7: They're rushed and pressured. It's still head.

1106
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 5: Up fire or shot makes it and you look up

1107
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 5: and they both have three hundred yards passing and two

1108
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 5: touchdowns three touchdowns.

1109
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 7: Whereas a guy like Trevor in this offense and even.

1110
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 5: Like you can go to Caleb Williams and others, it's

1111
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 5: a it's a work in progress trying to get him

1112
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 5: to do the things that they need to do in

1113
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 5: the confines of the offense. And I think that's the

1114
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 5: biggest difference. Does it ever look effortless for Trevor? It doesn't,

1115
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 5: not literally, it looks robotic at time. It looks for

1116
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 5: a and he's, like you said, Tony, he's pressing and

1117
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: he's thinking about all his mechanics instead of just playing football.

1118
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 3: Yeah that's my point, Pete. I think he's I think

1119
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: he's thinking too much and yeah, not just playing and

1120
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: reacting to what he sees and what's going on. Because

1121
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 3: he's a premium athlete and he can run, he's big,

1122
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: he can do all those things. But right now something

1123
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: is just off from how you know. I think mechanical

1124
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: is the right word. It looks mechanical, and it's hard

1125
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: to play the game, any game if you're mechanical.

1126
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: Because he's getting out and when he's getting out, like

1127
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 5: we said, he's going and you look at the other guy,

1128
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 5: because the other guy got out a bunch on Sunday.

1129
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 5: And when he got out he made plays. And when

1130
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 5: he didn't get at when he didn't have anybody down

1131
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 5: the field, he ran and got first downs.

1132
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, he bought time to throw the ball.

1133
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 7: Yes, And it looks easy.

1134
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 5: It looks effortless.

1135
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 7: And that's the difference.

1136
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: Well being talking about you brought up Caleb Williams. I

1137
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 3: didn't see the game. I know we can view this

1138
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: in the last segment, but he read on Twitter or

1139
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: x that he had one hundred and twenty four passer

1140
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 3: rating under pressure on Sunday.

1141
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: It was better.

1142
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 7: He's getting better. It's still not you know what I'm saying.

1143
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: When I didn't see it, I have no idea.

1144
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, but with Jaye Dan, you've seen him play. Though

1145
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 7: with a guy like Jane.

1146
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: Dan, I haven't seen je I haven't seen Jayden Daniels

1147
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: play one game.

1148
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 5: You haven't. No, you don't turn your TV on every Huh, well.

1149
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: I cover this team called the Jaguars, or.

1150
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 7: You played on they played on a night game.

1151
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: I didn't see it. It was the same night that

1152
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: we played.

1153
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 7: That's right, right, yeah, yeah, but you could have turned

1154
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 7: that game off early.

1155
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 5: And got.

1156
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 8: Watch.

1157
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that had been U appreciate it, Jeff.

1158
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 7: Let Jeff handle it. Say you want to go watch

1159
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 7: some football in the back.

1160
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that'd have been appreciated. So, but

1161
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 3: they need to figure it out because it's hard to

1162
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: win in this league if your quarterback's not playing well.

1163
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: Tony, how do you deal with the pressure You're you're

1164
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: in Trevor, you're number one pick, you got the contract.

1165
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: Now you're the guy. Obviously he's not dealing with a

1166
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: great How do you kind of reset it mentally?

1167
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: I think the first thing you gotta tell yourself is

1168
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: what I'm doing is not working. So me being anxious

1169
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: and worrying about and putting all this pressure on me

1170
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: isn't working. So let me try the opposite. I'm just

1171
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: not gonna give to you know what, or what anyone thinks.

1172
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: I know, I'm good I know I can play this position.

1173
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna study my tail off this week. I'm gonna

1174
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: be prepared, and i'm gonna go out there with a

1175
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: little confidence and swagger, even if I have to fake it,

1176
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: fake it till you make it. But I'm not gonna

1177
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 3: sit here and worry about making a mistake. I'm not

1178
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 3: gonna be afraid of failing. I'm not gonna be thinking

1179
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: through and trying to be perfect. I'm just gonna go play.

1180
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: I played this game for a long time. I was

1181
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 3: great in high school, I was great in college. I

1182
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: know I can be great here. I've done great things

1183
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 3: in this league at moments. I'm just gonna go play.

1184
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: And you know what, if I throw a pick, I

1185
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 3: throw a pick, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna I'm gonna go.

1186
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go slinging around. I'm gonna go make I'm

1187
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna run this offense. I'm gonna lead this offense.

1188
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: That's my job. I'm gonna lead the offense. I'm gonna

1189
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: go lead these guys, and I'm gonna play with some

1190
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: confidence and swagger and I'm gonna get after it and

1191
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: at least if it goes bad, then it didn't go

1192
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 3: bad because I was thinking, or I was worried about failing,

1193
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: or I was pressing or trying to art. I'm just

1194
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 3: gonna go play because what you're doing is not working.

1195
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: You're getting you're getting all the heat right now.

1196
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 5: Right, and it's not right and rightfully so, but Tony,

1197
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: here's here's let's go through this second. Once you realize

1198
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 5: that you were a great player, you know, okay, maybe

1199
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: not a great player, but when you realize you could

1200
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 5: handle it and be good in the NFL, did you

1201
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: ever get anxious after that?

1202
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

1203
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: Every game? I actually think when you get to the top,

1204
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: you have to manage that even more.

1205
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 5: But were you pressing? I'm saying, you know where you where,

1206
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 5: you didn't impact the way you played the game.

1207
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 7: Once you once you got to took the field and hit.

1208
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 5: Somebody, did an impact the way you played the game.

1209
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean when you get out there you

1210
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: start playing. I mean, but there was moments, like big

1211
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 3: moments you're like okay, like the game's on the line.

1212
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: Too many like okay, I gotta do my job, Go

1213
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: do your technique, like don't don't think about the moment

1214
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: and don't let the moment come become too big because

1215
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 3: then you'll get anxious. But I think when you when

1216
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: you get to the top of being the best or

1217
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: like what you do, that's only half the journey. It's

1218
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: how do you stay there?

1219
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 5: Because but I'm talking about a guy who's allowing pressure

1220
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 5: of the contract and everything to impact him.

1221
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: Like, so the contract never bothered me, So you have

1222
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: to find out what motivates you.

1223
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 7: That's what it shouldn't It shouldn't. He needs to take

1224
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 7: that out of the equation.

1225
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: That's my point. Like it doesn't matter. You're gonna pay it.

1226
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 3: Like I'd be like, okay, I'm getting paid.

1227
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 5: That's what has changed for him, Like, let's just put

1228
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 5: this through. What has changed for him in three years

1229
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: that has made him become a player who is robotic

1230
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 5: and mechanical and not the same.

1231
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'll just say development, development, there's

1232
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: no div that's a problem in that organ development. It's

1233
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 3: a fair it's a fair question, Pete. I'll just tell

1234
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: you to answer your question. From my perspective, the pressure

1235
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: is not going anywhere. If you're the quarterback or if

1236
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: you want to be good, if you want to be

1237
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: good at anything. It's okay to have some anxiety going

1238
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: in because that knows it. That to me, that tells

1239
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: you it's important. It's how you manage that. And I

1240
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 3: think the management of that is because the Pete. There

1241
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 3: was times in my career and you'll remember this, I'll

1242
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: I'll never forget it. I remember we played a preseason

1243
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: game against the San Francisco forty nine ers. Chris Dolman

1244
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: got a sack against me early in the game. The

1245
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: next day in the Times, you in because of people

1246
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: like Pete who are just bad people. On the front

1247
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 3: page of the sports section, besell, he gives up a sack,

1248
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 3: And I remember reading that, Go on, what about the

1249
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: other fifty plays?

1250
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: Remember the worst one? Yea.

1251
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 3: And so I had to tell myself it's like, okay,

1252
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: if I worry about making a mistake, or if I

1253
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: worry about getting beat, then I'm not going to play

1254
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: as well, because then you become mechanical, you become robotic,

1255
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: you're thinking you're over instead of I played my best

1256
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: football whenever I went out there and just competed. I

1257
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: wasn't worried about technique. I wasn't worried about you know what,

1258
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: happens if it doesn't work, What happens if they get

1259
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: a sack, What happens with this or that or the other.

1260
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: I just went out there and trusted my ability and competed.

1261
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 3: And I think when you have pressure and you're in

1262
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: a position where all the expectations are on you to

1263
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: be great, and Trevor hasn't reached that in the NFL yet,

1264
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: but he's reached it in college and reached the other places,

1265
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: so the expectation followed him here being the first overall

1266
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: pick of this franchise and going through that and having expectations.

1267
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: I had to manage that because I knew myself because

1268
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: I was and I think Trevor's like this where you're

1269
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: harder on yourself than anyone else can be. So you

1270
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 3: have to manage yourself saying, Okay, I just got to

1271
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: go play. Let the chips fall where they may if

1272
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 3: I go out there and compete and have put the

1273
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: work in, because that's where you like worry about techniques.

1274
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: And during the week you put the work in, you

1275
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: get your technique down. You rep it, you rep it,

1276
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: you re repid. Study, study, study, watch film, so that

1277
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: when you get into the game you're just reacting and

1278
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: competing against the guy across from you, and that's where

1279
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 3: the mechanics, that's where you stop being mechanical and stop

1280
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: worrying about being perfect. It doesn't have to be perfect.

1281
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 5: But here's the difference, though Tony, you're playing a position

1282
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 5: where you got a man or who's looper, stunner, double whatever.

1283
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 5: When you're the quarterback and you're allowing things to impact you,

1284
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 5: you see in everything to say, it's entirely different. So

1285
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 5: when you start doubting at all, then it becomes a

1286
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 5: great it's a magnifies it by a hundred times what

1287
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 5: it might impede.

1288
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: I agree with you. The quarterback position is a much

1289
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: harder position, especially mentally to play than left tackle. No,

1290
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: it's not. It's night and day. What is on his

1291
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: play is much larger. I'm what I'm trying. What I'm

1292
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 3: trying to communicate, Pete as those this it's the same

1293
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: from the standpoint, and I felt it playing for this franchise.

1294
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 3: Once I became at the top of the highest the

1295
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: number one tackle in the league, whatever it was, offensive

1296
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: lineman of the year, all the different things. Then you

1297
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: have to realize is like the expectation is that I'm

1298
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: never gonna get beat and that it's gonna be perfect,

1299
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: and when something does go wrong, people are going to

1300
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 3: notice it and they're gonna say something. And I had

1301
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: to tell myself is that I can't worry about that

1302
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 3: because if I go out there worried about giving a

1303
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: a sack or getting beat or having a bad play,

1304
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna be a mess. I'm not gonna

1305
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: do it like Pete. I'll tell you you remember these

1306
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: matchups my favorite game is to play were against Baltimore

1307
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 3: and Michael McCrary. I was the most nervous going in

1308
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: those games, so I knew I was getting ready for

1309
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: like a fifteen round heavyweight fight because this guy was

1310
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 3: gonna be just tenacious. But it was fun when you

1311
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 3: got into the game because it was like you were

1312
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: just battling, you were playing. But let me translate this

1313
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: to how I think it works a quarterback because the

1314
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: mental part, he's like he has so much more to

1315
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: deal with, no doubt about it. But my point that

1316
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: Trevor is like, man, you can't worry about what everyone

1317
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: else's expectations are. You can't worry about having the big contract.

1318
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: You can't worry about what Pete Prisco or Tony Miscelli

1319
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: or Kai saying on the radio, or you can't worry about,

1320
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: oh gosh, what's the what's on X? Because if I

1321
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: don't do what if I fall short? What if I

1322
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: don't become a top five quarterback of this league? Who cares?

1323
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: Because if you worry about that, you never will. Just

1324
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: go do what you've done your whole life. Would just

1325
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: compete your tail off and go play the game of

1326
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: football that you know how to play. And now, yeah,

1327
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: you have a lot more work during the week than

1328
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: I would have because you had to study and you

1329
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: gotta know all the formations, you gotta know all coverages,

1330
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 3: you gotta know what everyone's doing on the field. I

1331
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 3: just had to worry about the defensive end, much easier.

1332
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 7: But here's the other thing, too, Tony.

1333
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 5: Once you arrived at you're all pro level, if you

1334
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 5: made a mistake.

1335
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 7: It was magnified. But everybody goes, oh, it's all you

1336
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 7: give upsack.

1337
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 5: But here he goes he's gonna go stone the guy

1338
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 5: for the rest of the game. Whereas Trevor's at the

1339
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 5: point now despite the mega contract, where if he makes

1340
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 5: a mistake. Everybody looks at it and says, here we go,

1341
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 5: he's gonna become that guy again. That's the difference.

1342
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: But here's what this is. How you treat it the

1343
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: same way, because it's the same thing. If you think

1344
01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: about it, it's all outside noise, it's all outsider.

1345
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 7: Saying, but it's internal hold on.

1346
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: That's why you can't let it be.

1347
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 7: What it clearly is. Now we both agree on.

1348
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 3: That's my point. I agree with you. You can't allow that.

1349
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: And there were times in my career like you have

1350
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 3: a bad game or something, I have to fight it,

1351
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: like that's not who I am.

1352
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 5: By the way, one one thing we do and I

1353
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 5: touched on a little bit development of the player.

1354
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: It's critical.

1355
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 5: It's in the same We had the excuse it was urban,

1356
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 5: the urban disaster. Then you get a coach in there.

1357
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 5: You're in the same system for three years, correct.

1358
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: Yes, and he's not progressing. That's my concern.

1359
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: I think maybe some of the outs maybe hurt him too,

1360
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: because it kept being oh, he has a new coach.

1361
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh it's the second year, and now we're a third year,

1362
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, he's saying any he's injured and

1363
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: now it's.

1364
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: Then, and then there's this this other part of it.

1365
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 5: Carson Wentz, Carson.

1366
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: Went found on that part.

1367
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 5: He got hurt, but he was on his way to

1368
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 5: being He was a high draft picks second overall, he

1369
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: was gonna be an MVP.

1370
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Speaker 7: He was in the MV before he got hurt. He

1371
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 7: was in the MVP cant he was in an MVP run.

1372
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Speaker 5: He came back and it just fell apart on him

1373
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 5: and Doug Peterson was the head coach and the relationship

1374
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 5: wasn't great and it was frayed and for whatever reason,

1375
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 5: I don't know the ends of it, but I know

1376
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 5: there wasn't It wasn't warm and fuzzy, and Carson Wentz

1377
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 5: has never ever ever been the same ever. Now, the

1378
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 5: injury could be a factor in there, and Trevor's been

1379
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: hurt too, But when you was there, development there no

1380
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 5: after the factor was not anymore development, And that's where

1381
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 5: I'm concerned about it.

1382
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 7: That's my concern.

1383
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 5: You're in an office for three years, you're supposed to

1384
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 5: have development. There's no development. And it's not just him.

1385
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 5: There's a lot of guys that don't get better. That's

1386
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 5: my concern with this team.

1387
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: We're going to talk more about development coming up. We

1388
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: will keep it real as well here on the second

1389
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, represented by mister Tubby's Wings.

1390
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 9: The dasy for us as coaches to criticize the negative,

1391
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 9: even as reporters. It's easy to criticize the negative, right,

1392
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 9: It's hard to find the positive when things are bad.

1393
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just kind of human nature. I personally.

1394
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 9: Try to find the good in everything because if I don't,

1395
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 9: then I'm always the Debbie Downer. I'm always the negative one,

1396
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 9: and I don't want to be the negative one. I

1397
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 9: will still hold them accountable. I will still hold my

1398
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 9: coaches accountable. I'll hold myself accountable. But at the same time,

1399
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 9: I better come Wednesday make them feel.

1400
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 5: Like they could run through that wall. Right, that's my job.

1401
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 5: That's part of my job.

1402
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 6: So I don't necessarily back away. I don't necessarily have

1403
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 6: to raise my voice and yell and scream, but I

1404
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 6: think you can. You can get your message across where

1405
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 6: they understand where you're coming from and what we need

1406
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 6: to do moving forward.

1407
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: Ted coach Doug Peterson speaking a couple of hours ago today,

1408
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: a different tone than what we heard from him after

1409
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: the game. He's trying to focus on the positives. As

1410
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: you mentioned, Tony, you said, a lot of mentality is

1411
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: going out there playing free, not being burdened by the negatives.

1412
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: How's the team going to do that as a whole.

1413
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we'll tag We'll keep it real. In

1414
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 3: the second here, Pete, we talked about Trevor and I

1415
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 3: want to tag it with this, And I think this

1416
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: goes for every position, first and foremost. I was not

1417
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 3: trying to compare the left tackle of a quarterback two

1418
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: different positions, but the mentality as a professional sport or

1419
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: athlete and to be great at anything, I think is consistent.

1420
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: And Pete, you've been around a lot of really high

1421
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 3: end professional football players and a lot of high end quarterbacks,

1422
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 3: and I allays speak to the quarterbacks. There's something about

1423
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: every good or great quarterback that is common. There's a

1424
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: little bit of you know, you can kiss it where

1425
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: the sun doesn't shine if you don't mind. Like there's

1426
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: a little bit of arrogance and confidence of like no

1427
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: matter what, like they just think they're a bulletproof. You

1428
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 3: kind of need it, and like, and I think to

1429
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: be good you need a little bit of that of

1430
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: that self confidence arrogance, and you almost have to say

1431
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: is like, you know what, I don't really care what

1432
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: you think. Like I'm good and I'm gonna go execute.

1433
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: And like there's a little bit of that swagger and

1434
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: Trevor needs to find that somewhere because I don't think

1435
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: you can play the position. I don't think you play

1436
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: any position, but especially quarterback unless you have that little

1437
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: bit of like, yeah, you gotta kiss it, you know.

1438
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 3: I just I mean, you've been around a lot of them.

1439
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's like they walk into the huddle and

1440
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 5: they walk into the huddle and they say, it's my

1441
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 5: damn huddle, Shut.

1442
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 7: The hell up, We're gonna do this and we're gonna go.

1443
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 5: Is the swagger, it's the attitude, It's the it's the

1444
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 5: I'm it, you're right, It's the it's the it factor.

1445
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 5: And you know, it's funny because in the draft process,

1446
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 5: I've I've done this for so long and I always

1447
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 5: like to watch the tapes of the guys talking at

1448
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 5: the draft the combine, and and this year I got

1449
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 5: a chance to. I watched all the interviews with the

1450
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 5: cut with the guys, and I came away from it,

1451
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 5: and then I had my ideas on who I liked

1452
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 5: as a player. But I came away from it and

1453
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 5: I said, Jayden Daniels has it.

1454
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 7: And you don't know what it is hard to qualify

1455
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 7: what it is. You just know what it is. You

1456
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 7: know what I mean.

1457
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: When he walked, you can tell he's the guy, the swagger,

1458
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 5: the mentality, the belief in himself that not going to

1459
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 5: be phased by the mistakes, and he does have it.

1460
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 5: And I think Trevor's looking for it now. You can't

1461
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 5: manufacture it. Success will help it.

1462
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, confidence helps it, and I think a little bit

1463
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 3: of it is also Pete is, you know. And I'm

1464
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: not a quarterback expert as far as technique and mccam

1465
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: everything else. But my recommendation to him is, like, go

1466
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 3: work on your mechanics on the field in practice, like

1467
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 3: go do repid REPI reper repic, get confident, and then

1468
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: when you go out there, just go play. Just be

1469
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: that dude who just shows up, gets the hell, tells

1470
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 3: everyone to shut up, get to the line of scrimmage,

1471
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 3: call the play and go go make it just and

1472
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: like if it doesn't work out, get them all back up.

1473
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 3: Tell them the shut up again and get in the

1474
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 3: huddle and go do it again.

1475
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 7: By the way, a couple other quick things on Trevor.

1476
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 5: Everybody in the entire NFL would have drafted him first overall,

1477
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 5: so let's not criticize him for that. And b I

1478
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 5: was one of the biggest believers in him. I thought

1479
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 5: he would be the MVP a year ago. I thought

1480
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 5: he would throw thirty five touchdowns last year. I thought

1481
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 5: he would throw thirty something this year. So I still

1482
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 5: think it's there. I just think right now he's going

1483
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 5: through something and he's got to get out of it,

1484
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 5: and they have to help him get out of it.

1485
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 7: They haven't developed them and so they have to help

1486
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 7: them get out of it.

1487
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 2: All right, guys, You guys always keep it real, but

1488
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna keep it real. Specifically switch at the defensive

1489
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: side of the ball. We touched on it a little

1490
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: bit earlier. The defense has been playing better at times

1491
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 2: so far, but now Josh heinz Allen in the concussion protocol.

1492
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: The pass rush has not been there a ton without

1493
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 2: Josh heinz Allen. The concerns going forward, Pete, what do

1494
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: they kind of do with that group right now? If

1495
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: Josh can't.

1496
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 5: Go, well, they have to find somebody. I mean they

1497
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 5: have to go looking around for somebody, because if he

1498
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 5: can't go, what ends do they have? They have none.

1499
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 5: They have Trayvon Walker, who I still think would be

1500
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 5: a great down player on the inside and not really.

1501
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 5: I mean he's been good as an end, but I

1502
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 5: think he'd be a great three technique. They have Armstead

1503
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 5: who is a three technique. Masquerating is an end. Roy

1504
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 5: Robertson Harris is now masquerading is an end. They got

1505
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 5: to manufacture.

1506
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 7: Stuff, and so I think that's a problem.

1507
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 5: If he can't play, a big problem. Then it compounded

1508
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 5: by the fact that think about that, if he can't

1509
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 5: play this week, your mega defensive end who's been good

1510
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 5: hadn't be great, your mega paid corner hadn't played, and

1511
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 5: your mega play paid quarterback isn't played very well. That

1512
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 5: ain't a good look for the organization. So I think

1513
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 5: if he doesn't go, they have major problems. And me

1514
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 5: and Tony have talked about that.

1515
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 7: They don't have ends.

1516
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 5: There's no ends on the roster. Yeah.

1517
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 3: I don't understand the decision process from camp, the cuts

1518
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 3: to the building this roster of what they were doing

1519
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: on defense in the front, the defensive line, like the

1520
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: eight defense tackles three true ends one a seventh round rookie.

1521
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 3: I just I don't have an answer for it. I

1522
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: don't understand it. But the you know, one of the

1523
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 3: bigger issues also in this defense, and everyone says, well,

1524
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: the defense is not given a bunch of points except

1525
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 3: for Buffalo playing better and okay, but they also can't

1526
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: get off the field.

1527
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, in time of possession for the other teams.

1528
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: I mean so, like I was just looking it up,

1529
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: So time and possession this year, Miami had over thirty

1530
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 3: three minutes, Cleveland had over thirty four, and that's one

1531
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,879
Speaker 3: of the worst offensives in the history of mankind. Buffalo

1532
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: had over thirty one, and the only reason they had

1533
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: more because in the second half they gave up and

1534
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 3: started playing backups. And the Texans had over thirty three.

1535
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 3: Like we're not on the field, and that the defense

1536
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,919
Speaker 3: creates no turnovers because they don't get any pressure.

1537
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 2: They have none, right, No, until yep, only special teams turns.

1538
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 3: Special team's got the muff and they don't get off

1539
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 3: the fuck field.

1540
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 8: And so.

1541
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: Where does the pass us come from? Without Josh. I

1542
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know. Ryan Nilsen does not like

1543
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 3: the Blitz very much, but he might have to dial

1544
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 3: with the blitz.

1545
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 2: Is that something they can look into though, because I mean,

1546
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: we saw them they didn't want to do much zone.

1547
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: They saw them change a little bit batter.

1548
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: Because they can't. They can't run with the guys.

1549
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 5: They can't. You want to play man to man cover,

1550
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 5: you gotta run a little bit.

1551
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 3: And you got to rush the passer. You got to

1552
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: get to the quarterback here and play me because you

1553
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 3: only can run for so long.

1554
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 5: But okay, even in some scenario, in emergency scenario, maybe

1555
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 5: you could put play Devin Lloyd as he's rushed something.

1556
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 5: There's an end in his career and college he did it,

1557
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 5: but he's not an end. It's just emergency types of

1558
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 5: But he's not even healthy now. Anyways.

1559
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's no simple answer to this because

1560
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: with Josh healthy, they're not getting a ton of pressure

1561
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: because no one's really winning inside. Roy had one good

1562
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 3: on the stunt, so maybe they can do more stunts

1563
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 3: more ts ET's three man games.

1564
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 7: They don't do a lot of that.

1565
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: Eat No, that's what I'm saying, maybe you dial that

1566
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: up some.

1567
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 5: More, and and a lot of team you watch tape

1568
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 5: Tony around the league, teams do that and that's how

1569
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 5: they get home. Jacksonvill doesn't do it well if you watch.

1570
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: I thought we'd run a ton of games this week

1571
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: because if you watch the Vikings on tape against the Texans, yep,

1572
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: they were absolutely killing that offensive line. And the offensive

1573
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 3: line of the Texans is not great. They don't do

1574
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: a good job in games. And they ran a bunch

1575
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: of three man games Pete like ttes and they were

1576
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 3: just gashing the Texans, getting all overj Stroud.

1577
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 7: But here's the other side of it.

1578
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 5: There are certain teams like the Vikings or the forty

1579
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 5: nine ers where you can go get an end off

1580
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 5: a scrap heap and put them in their defense and

1581
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 5: suddenly they become good rushers.

1582
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 7: Like I'll give you an example.

1583
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 5: The kid Patrick Jones from Pittsburgh is a decent player

1584
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,879
Speaker 5: from you know places for the Vikings in that defense,

1585
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 5: the way they attack and come after you and everything

1586
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 5: he's getting to the quarterback.

1587
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: Well, they run a lot of games. They get on

1588
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 3: the edge and then you get confidence, you start getting going,

1589
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 3: you get the offensive line.

1590
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 7: Believe that these four can win one on one when

1591
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 7: you put him.

1592
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 3: In a four man front, No, I don't.

1593
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 7: So they got to do something.

1594
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 3: So I think dial up the games. You're gonna have

1595
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: to dial up a bunch of games, or you got

1596
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: the blitzmore because I don't like I've seen zero evidence that,

1597
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: especially with no Josh in there, that they can just

1598
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 3: rush for and win one on one battles. I have

1599
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: not say one.

1600
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 7: Thing that a little bit flashes.

1601
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 5: I thought Mason Smith flashed a couple of plays yesterday. Okay,

1602
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 5: did you did you?

1603
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 3: Did you?

1604
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 5: You know in the run game, I had a couple

1605
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 5: of good jobs. You know there was a push on

1606
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 5: one play where he looked like and then he's working

1607
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 5: against a bad guard.

1608
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah the run game.

1609
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 7: Yes, But I think he's got a chance to be

1610
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 7: a good player.

1611
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: I mean, do we have the pressure stats? How many

1612
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 3: pressures did we even have? Yestualay, I didn't look. We

1613
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 3: had one sack. I know that for some holds, so

1614
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 3: I was good.

1615
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: I think they gave led better sack too, because it

1616
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 2: was one two sacks.

1617
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 5: But even on that led better sack, I think that

1618
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 5: was Mason Smith who pushed the pocket on that.

1619
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 2: I think it was. It was like a group backer

1620
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: because there's three of them. And then Roy got.

1621
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: The sack and he kind of got he kind of

1622
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 5: come up the field a little bit. But but again,

1623
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 5: there's a guy who's young at least play. I mean,

1624
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 5: you know, we have any other guys, Tony. If they

1625
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 5: don't have Josh Hindes Allen this week, what do they do?

1626
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 3: I got no answer for you.

1627
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 7: I hope Josh so Armstead will start at defensive end.

1628
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: Is who else is gonna start? You're not gonna start

1629
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: the rookie, rookie. The rookie hasn't even been active. That's

1630
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 3: why I go back to the I go back to

1631
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 3: training camp. I don't understand why they traded Gibson.

1632
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 5: Gibson, but but isn't that amazing though? By the way,

1633
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,879
Speaker 5: calebon Chason had two pressures yesterday.

1634
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: I think for the just salt in the wound. I think, so,

1635
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: all right, guys, we're gonna hit the brake now.

1636
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 7: I got more.

1637
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 5: Jay too fully started for the Bengals at defensive tackle.

1638
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 7: Quincy Williams was all over the field.

1639
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: We're going for stop this all right? When we return

1640
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: we're gonna do Fanatics fan questions. I picked them out

1641
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,000
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1642
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,639
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1643
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,839
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1644
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,240
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1645
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: can imagine. Haven't heard from you guys in a couple

1646
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: of weeks, so there's a lot of questions. I tried

1647
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,040
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1648
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1649
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,760
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1650
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1651
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: we already talked about, so I'm gonna skip ahead. But

1652
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 2: why didn't we did touch on this? Why didn't the

1653
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: coaching staff take Tank out of the game after the

1654
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: big run? I heard Fred Taylor kind of weighing it

1655
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: on the postgame show. Totally he's the expert. Fred said,

1656
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: if you run six yards, I'm going to be tired.

1657
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: And I thought he was going to say you'd want

1658
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: to stay in, but he said he would understand if

1659
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: you soub someone out. I think probably because he was

1660
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: that guy getting after m J. D Ran and then

1661
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: he'd get the one yard touchdown probe.

1662
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: But also I think because I remember when Fred was

1663
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 3: younger and he got mad whenever they took him out

1664
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 3: of going with James Stewart, and I think Fred would

1665
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: have been say, waving off staun here, this is my touchdown.

1666
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I have to I'm gonna talk to

1667
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: Freddy this weekend, the alumni weekend, saying Fred, there's no

1668
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: chance if you were even the choice you were coming out.

1669
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 2: Give me a choice.

1670
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 5: He's still he's still angry about it, and the truth

1671
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 5: be known, him coming out on the goal line probably

1672
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 5: cost him a chance to be in the whole thing.

1673
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: You don't think he gets in this yere pete no change.

1674
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 5: I hope he does. I hope. I've tried banging on

1675
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 5: these guys just like I did for you, and and

1676
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 5: I'm getting a lot of pushback.

1677
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 3: Really.

1678
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you get you know, you got the New

1679
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 5: York people that always pushed Tiki, So there's a whole

1680
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 5: block that pushes back on it.

1681
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you look at toll yards and yards

1682
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 3: were Carrio, it's not even not just that.

1683
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 5: Here's how you get to get the ultimate answer. Go

1684
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 5: ask Tom Coffin. He'll tell you who was better.

1685
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: That's absolutely special day. This Sunday too, we'll talk about

1686
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: that as well. Coming up, all right, Doug says things

1687
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 2: like everything's on the table, But did you see any

1688
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: appreciable changes from week three to week four?

1689
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 5: Tony?

1690
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, they ran the ball, the concerted effort to

1691
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 3: run the ball more than they have you think, yeah,

1692
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 3: more than they half. I would have to go look

1693
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 3: at the exact attempts compared to passing attempts. No, I

1694
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 3: mean they ran war zone on defense, just game plan stuff,

1695
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 3: but same people. Uh, maybe a little bit more tank

1696
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: earlier than we'd seen in the past. Maybe that was

1697
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: because of the injury. They are starting a couple of

1698
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 3: deep shots.

1699
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, get Brian Thomas or some cats, a couple of

1700
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 5: shots Crossters and stuff. So I think that's good.

1701
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1702
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: Is it a fine line coaching because you want to

1703
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 2: change things obviously you're not winning, but not completely switch

1704
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: up to the point where maybe players don't think you

1705
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: know what you're doing. Well.

1706
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 3: I think Doug said something that I agree with a lot.

1707
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 3: It's easy to be negative and if you just read

1708
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: the X and I know we're not gonna get him.

1709
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 3: I mean everyone got fired to day X.

1710
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah we're off.

1711
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 3: Dog got fired, Trevor Press, the Trent shot got fired.

1712
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know how you fire the owner.

1713
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't do that. But everyone got fired.

1714
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 3: And that's what happens when you're losing. And that's what

1715
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: happens because it's so easy to be negative, and as

1716
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 3: a coach, you gotta look at it and say, okay,

1717
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 3: let me take a step back. If I just go

1718
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: in and make wholesale changes, I'm gonna lose any credibility.

1719
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 3: I mean, what are people think I'm crazy?

1720
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 5: And I don't.

1721
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: I can't remember who said this, but Pete you'll probably

1722
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 3: you'll remember. But as soon as you start listening to

1723
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: the fans, you might as well go sit with the

1724
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: fans or there's some quote like that. It's like, you know,

1725
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 3: that's where you're gonna be. I think John Madden said it.

1726
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 3: And not that the fans, you know, aren't. We have

1727
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 3: very smart fans, but they're passionate and.

1728
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: When you lose, they're they're justifying what.

1729
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not. They're very they're good questions, good con like.

1730
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 3: But when we're winning, everything's perfect. Everyone's a superstar, like.

1731
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: You can ask you win.

1732
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have these extremes. And the job of a

1733
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 3: coach and a leader is to be able to step

1734
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 3: back when it's bad. Okay, we're the slight adjustments. How

1735
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 3: can I put people in better positions? What can we

1736
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 3: give success? And just as important, maybe more important, when

1737
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 3: you're winning, Hey, litten, get too full of ourselves, Like,

1738
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 3: here's some mistakes. This is where we need to get better.

1739
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 3: And so I don't think wholesale changes is the right

1740
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 3: thing in the season. You make those wholesale changes in

1741
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 3: the off season, in training, cap you work on things,

1742
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 3: you find out what you're good at, you find out

1743
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 3: here they.

1744
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 5: Keep going in this direction. They'll be making wholesale changes

1745
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 5: after the season.

1746
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: That's why I said, that's when you make those changes

1747
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 3: in the off season.

1748
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 7: By the way, real quickly.

1749
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 5: The owner saying what he said before the season about

1750
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 5: this being the most talented team that puts a bullseye

1751
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 5: on the A on the coaching staff, and it kind

1752
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 5: of takes the GM off the hook a little bit.

1753
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 5: But now as we look at it, I think they're

1754
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 5: both both in trouble. But I mean him saying that

1755
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 5: that's where the fans rat is coming from.

1756
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the I'm pretty sure. And I had a

1757
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 3: conversation this weekend about this because a lot has been

1758
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 3: made about that, and people on X have said, you

1759
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 3: know about the teams I played on, and Seth Payne

1760
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: had something funny, you know, on there this weekend. I

1761
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 3: think what Shod was referring to is the best team

1762
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 3: since he's been the owner. I don't think I'm not

1763
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 3: saying I agree with him. I'm just saying, to be

1764
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: fair though, to Shod, I don't think Shod was saying

1765
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 3: back to nineteen ninety five. I mean, Shot, he would

1766
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: have no context. I mean, like, my guess is he

1767
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 3: wasn't a Jaguar fan, you know, in uh uh, living

1768
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: in Illinois or Chicago and then back and forth.

1769
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 7: I mean, the best team that he's had since he's

1770
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 7: been here.

1771
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why what he was saying is the best

1772
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 3: team since he's been here. Now, I could argue the

1773
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: seventeen team was better just because that defense had I mean,

1774
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: Klay's Campbell's probably Hall of Fame or Jalen Ramsey is

1775
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 3: one of the best corners in the football. You set

1776
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 3: sack records, in turnovers and everything else. So like I

1777
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 3: would probably disagree with him, but it's not. It's not

1778
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: an outrageous statement, and.

1779
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: It's a motivator. He goes in there, he's trying to

1780
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: he's trying to use as a motivation it.

1781
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 7: All it does is set him. It sets them up though.

1782
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 7: It sets them up.

1783
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 5: Now the coach is on the hot seat. If if

1784
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,839
Speaker 5: he wasn't on the hot seat, his seat is seering

1785
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 5: right now. And here's the other part of it. You know,

1786
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 5: you're talking about this the fans. Guy, here's the fans.

1787
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 10: They thought that quarterback cured all their misery for the

1788
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 10: next decade and a half, and here you are three

1789
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 10: years into it, and you're still the same miserable fan base.

1790
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 7: That's where there agony for you. For you, but that's

1791
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 7: where your agony is.

1792
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 5: That's where it's well it's not quite for it's the

1793
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,480
Speaker 5: fourth year, but this is where your agony is coming from.

1794
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 7: That's why there is an angry and they have a

1795
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 7: right to be.

1796
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 3: Now, I don't I would not have said the statement.

1797
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't think it was because I don't think there's

1798
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 3: any upside for shod to say it, because what's upside

1799
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 3: if you win?

1800
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: If you prove the point, it's like, oh, I set

1801
01:22:58,840 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: it first.

1802
01:22:59,200 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1803
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 3: Like so, I'm not whether he should have said or not.

1804
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 3: That's not I'm not a communications expert. It's not my

1805
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 3: you know, lane to working. But I do think it's

1806
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: fair because I've seen enough on x now that he

1807
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: was not referring to the history of the franchise.

1808
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 5: I think, no, you're.

1809
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 7: Right, not he doesn't know the history.

1810
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 5: But even doing that, you know what that does, and

1811
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 5: you know you've been around the NFL a long time.

1812
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 5: It causes a split that's naturally there anyways between front

1813
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 5: office and coach. If the team is that talented and

1814
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 5: they're not winning, oh that's the coach's fault. If the team,

1815
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 5: If you don't understand what I'm saying. But those are

1816
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 5: gigantic in this business.

1817
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: They are. But I'll say this and let me speak.

1818
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 3: I'm not so this next comment, I'm taking the Jaguars

1819
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 3: organization out of the picture. This is a general NFL pete.

1820
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 3: My experience is the teams that have success, the GM

1821
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: and the head coach are on the same page. Correct

1822
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: it's the teams that don't correct where they're not where

1823
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 3: they're pointing fingers and they're divided. Because I'm a I'm

1824
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 3: a firm believer. The coach's job. I'm not speaking about Jacks.

1825
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 3: I'm just saying general NFL. It's the coaching staff to say,

1826
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: this is the type of team, this is the type

1827
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 3: of offense, type of defense we want to play. These

1828
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: are the type of players that we need to be successful.

1829
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 3: Their job is to coach and develop those players and

1830
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 3: to communicate to the front office is this is the

1831
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: style of football we want to play, and so we

1832
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 3: need these type of players. This body type this, you know,

1833
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 3: offensive line like this, the line like this, corners, whatever

1834
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: it is. And then it's the front office. The GM's

1835
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 3: job in the scouts is to go get the type

1836
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: of players, the most talented players that fit that makeup

1837
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 3: that the coaching staff is described based on the style

1838
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: of football they want to play, and then they go

1839
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 3: to deliver those players.

1840
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 7: Okay, do you think do you think and that's how

1841
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 7: I think. No, I mean asked this question because I

1842
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 7: don't think it is. I'll be the first one to

1843
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 7: say it.

1844
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 3: You don't think that's how you don't think that's how

1845
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 3: you do it.

1846
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 7: That's exactly how you know it.

1847
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 5: But I don't think they're warm and fuzzy together in

1848
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 5: that building.

1849
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 3: I am not privy. I'm not here enough, I'm not

1850
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 3: in the meetings. I don't I have never won your things, Pete.

1851
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 3: I have never once sat in the same room and

1852
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 3: had a conversation with Doug Peterson and Trent Balking. So

1853
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: I am not going to weigh in on rumors and

1854
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 3: in things that you know I might hear. Well, you can't,

1855
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 3: you you, But Pete, in fairness, you have a better

1856
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 3: ear around the league of what is said.

1857
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 5: And and yes, and from what you hear, it's not

1858
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 5: warmon it's not warm and fuzzy.

1859
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 7: It's not that they're at each other's throat.

1860
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 5: But when things start going bad, people blame each other.

1861
01:25:59,200 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 7: They look to blame.

1862
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,919
Speaker 3: Not in a healthy organization, they don't, Pete, that's the problem.

1863
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 3: You can't do that.

1864
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give you an example.

1865
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 5: Rick Spielman works with me and and Rick was the

1866
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 5: longtime GM of the Vikings and Mike Zimmer was his

1867
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 5: longtime coach. A couple of weeks ago, Mike Zimmer came

1868
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 5: out and Mike Zimmer always wanted a certain style player.

1869
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 5: He wanted this player, give him that player. If he

1870
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 5: didn't make it, he blamed the GM. And Mike Zimmer

1871
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 5: came out and ripped Rick Spielman publicly for some of

1872
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 5: the draft picks that he had. So that was simmering

1873
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 5: the entire time he was there. There's always gonna be

1874
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 5: And you're right though, the good organizations don't let the

1875
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 5: ego get in the way. But you know how this is.

1876
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 5: When a GM picks a player, if the player doesn't develop,

1877
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 5: he blames the coach. If the GM picks a player

1878
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 5: and the player doesn't develop, the coach says the player.

1879
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 7: Wasn't good enough.

1880
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,839
Speaker 5: And next thing you know, you got the two egos

1881
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 5: bouncing the heads against each other and getting into it.

1882
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 5: You don't give me enough players, you don't coach him

1883
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 5: well enough.

1884
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 3: But you can't allow that.

1885
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 7: No, but that you know what they all need to do, Tony.

1886
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 5: They all need to look in the mirror and say,

1887
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,560
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm making six seven million dollars a

1888
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 5: year a being the general manager, be coaching football. We

1889
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 5: shouldn't allow our egos to get in the way of

1890
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 5: this thing. Let's work together.

1891
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 3: And the successful organizations and the right leaders don't because

1892
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, the way a functional

1893
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 3: team an organization. This is for business football. I don't

1894
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 3: care what it is. You're all in it together. Guess

1895
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 3: what if we picked this guy, we're all stacking hands.

1896
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 3: We picked them together.

1897
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 5: Yep.

1898
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 3: It's your job to develop. It's not my job to coach.

1899
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 3: If I'm the GM, and if i'm the coach, my

1900
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: job is to describe it. And yep, I like, okay, good,

1901
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: we're in this on the same page. Let's go. And

1902
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 3: if it doesn't work, you both look at each other like,

1903
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 3: well we missed on that one. Let's move on. Let's

1904
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 3: keep going. And you know what if it doesn't work,

1905
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 3: Oltimately you're in it together. You get fired together, you

1906
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 3: win together.

1907
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 5: I mean but what you get fired together unless one

1908
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:57,759
Speaker 5: takes the other one out first.

1909
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 3: Well that's the problem, Pete, and you what you've described,

1910
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: and again I'm taking this organization off the table. What

1911
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: you've described is a plague in this league of why

1912
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: teams do not have success.

1913
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: And we see a lot of turnover in both those positions.

1914
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 3: Question, Pete, the Balpona Ravens have been pretty successful for

1915
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 3: a long time consistently. Ever heard of any one point fingers.

1916
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 5: Up there No Crista Costa and before him news get

1917
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 5: along with the coaches.

1918
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 3: How about Pittsburgh?

1919
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 7: How about Kansas City?

1920
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 3: Kansas City?

1921
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:33,480
Speaker 5: No, Pittsburgh.

1922
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 3: No.

1923
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 5: San Francisco doesn't really have a general member, but.

1924
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 3: They you hear anything out of San Francisco.

1925
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 5: No, because they get along. Well, they disagree sometimes, but

1926
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 5: they do get along. But that's fine.

1927
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 3: They disagree. I'll give you a perpose. San Francis was

1928
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: a great example. They picked Trey Lance third overall, he

1929
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 3: was a boss. They traded him two years later.

1930
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: And they came out of it, and you didn't hear one.

1931
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Thing out of that organization of Lynch Blaman Kyle or

1932
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: Kyle blame Lynch. Not help that they've got a lucky

1933
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 3: got the seventh thread, It's got a lot with the

1934
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 3: last bet. I mean that helps. But my point is

1935
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 3: successful organizations, football, teams, businesses, families, I don't care what

1936
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 3: it is. If you're not all in it together, working

1937
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 3: for the same goal, understanding what your role is in

1938
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 3: that organization, then you're not gonna have success long term

1939
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 3: because Pete Wright. The egos, it's all about me. What's

1940
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 3: in it for me? Me, me, me, me, the culture

1941
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: of me, And you can't have that if you want

1942
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 3: to be successful, you just can't.

1943
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 5: Well, there's a history.

1944
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 2: Team sport, guys, We've got to do this all together.

1945
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: That was Jaguars fan questions. I'm sure you guys got

1946
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: a lot of answers out of all that. Stay with

1947
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Speaker 2: us here on JAG's Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.

1948
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Jaguars, Have y ill presented by

1949
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: mister Chubby's Wings from the Hundai Studios. Also brought to

1950
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Speaker 2: you by dream Finders Homes. They've been proud to call

1951
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 2: themselves the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. You

1952
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: can visit dreamfinders homes dot com for all of the

1953
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 2: available inventory. Go Jags, all right, Jags still looking for

1954
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 2: their first win. Let's look around the NFL as well.

1955
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Cowboys and Giants on Thursday, your typical Thursday night game.

1956
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 2: Not good there, Bengals were winless, but they got to

1957
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: win over the Panthers this week. Pete, which one of

1958
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 2: any games that stood out to you on Sunday? I'll

1959
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: go through some of these scores, but anyone that you were.

1960
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 7: Watching, Yeah, well, I mean we watched them all.

1961
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 5: We send a screen room. But one of the games

1962
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 5: that the Colts won a game with Joe Flacco coming

1963
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 5: off the bench. And I know Jacksonville plays them this week.

1964
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, ed that hurts, Peter.

1965
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 5: Jacksonville has a history of beating the Colts up in Jacksonville.

1966
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 7: But would you rather play Joe Flacco? We see.

1967
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 3: It's so funny you bring that up because Kain and

1968
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: I talked about it. We talked abound the bus last

1969
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 3: night when we heard I'd rather play Anthony Richardson.

1970
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, of course you would.

1971
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 5: And by the way, the receivers look so happy on Sunday,

1972
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 5: I mean, you look, Anthony richards is a kid.

1973
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 7: He could develop, but he's not. He can't.

1974
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 5: He's completing under fifty percent of his passes and Joe

1975
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 5: Flacker goes in there and Michael Pittman goes for over

1976
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 5: one hundred. He was happy.

1977
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 7: So, yeah, you'd rather play Anthony Richardson than Joe Flack.

1978
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 3: Who do you think they play this week?

1979
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 5: Well, they say his hip pointer is not that bad,

1980
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 5: so we'll see, we'll see, We'll.

1981
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 2: See if it flares up later in the week.

1982
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 3: Well, that's one thing that if he if they do

1983
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 3: start Anthony Richardson, you want to tackle him like gently

1984
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 3: so he stays there. Yes, remember it was a number

1985
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 3: of years ago, Pete, I can't remember. You probably remember this.

1986
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 3: We're playing the Titans and Mariota had gotten demoted to

1987
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 3: the backup and I can't remember who the starter was,

1988
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 3: but we knocked him out early in the game, and

1989
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 3: then Mariota came in and just ran all over us, Roger,

1990
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: and they ended up beating us because of Mariota. I'm like, yeah, Allie,

1991
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 3: I wish.

1992
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 5: You would sink really did some good things.

1993
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 3: He's a good quarterback, knows how to win. He's won

1994
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl last year.

1995
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 5: Baltimore got right last night too. That was impressive.

1996
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 2: Also getting about that guy, Well, we looked like on

1997
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 2: Monday Night football and then the Bills go to Baltimore

1998
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: and you see that, Well, we don't have to play Baltimore.

1999
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: You know that.

2000
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 7: It's also the NFL want to parody the Bills.

2001
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 5: Short week for the Bills out on the road against

2002
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 5: a team that's you know, back room.

2003
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's tough and they had to win.

2004
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, week to week.

2005
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,879
Speaker 2: How about that Broncos Jets? Did you watch that, Pete?

2006
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2007
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 7: It rained, But the Jets have problems.

2008
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 5: You know, we talk about you talk about the Texans

2009
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 5: with their mistakes.

2010
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 7: The Jets make tons of mistakes, tons of them.

2011
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 5: And internally, what's that?

2012
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2013
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 3: What's with Aaron Rodgers and Robert Solid Pete?

2014
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think. I think that's a little frosty

2015
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 7: A little bit.

2016
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 2: I saw after the after the push tug, I was like,

2017
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 2: I know there's something.

2018
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't you know what Robert. You know he

2019
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 5: was in Jackson. You know, I ert Robert pays attention

2020
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 5: to too much of the outside noise, if you know

2021
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 5: what I mean. He listened, he gets he's got to

2022
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 5: put that away.

2023
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Pete. Commander's forty two fourteen over the Cardinals.

2024
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 5: It's real. The kids is the real deal. I mean,

2025
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 5: he is it. He is it. I say this all

2026
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 5: the time when I talk about him too. He went

2027
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 5: to Arizona State. He wasn't very good as the freshman.

2028
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 5: He is the most improved player I've ever seen in

2029
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 5: my life. And I mean that, and he works supposedly, Tony,

2030
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 5: He's the first one in and the last one out

2031
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 5: loves it, lives it and has the swagger. It's exactly

2032
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 5: what you want a quarterback.

2033
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 3: So he only went and spent one year at LSU. Right,

2034
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 3: Pete was last year?

2035
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 5: Yes, well, how did you guys not win with him?

2036
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 5: And you know who else was on that team at

2037
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 5: one point, Ricky Piersoll, Brandon Ay.

2038
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 3: Johnny how he was not good?

2039
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,799
Speaker 5: Why herm was coaching them? And they never have offensive lineman.

2040
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 5: You know that you've been around you you played again.

2041
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 5: They never have big, physical offensive linemen.

2042
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 3: Goes back to my point. You build build the team

2043
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 3: inside out. Once you have a quarterback inside out.

2044
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: Pete Bears got their first win to Caleb Williams. How

2045
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: did he look to you?

2046
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 7: Sorry? He's getting better?

2047
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 8: You know?

2048
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 5: The Rams are so undermanned though, I mean the they

2049
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 5: didn't for all the talk of how great he was

2050
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 5: on Sunday, theydn't put up a lot of points though

2051
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 5: against the Rams team that came in give it up

2052
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 5: more twenty plus pass plays than any team in the

2053
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 5: league because they're so banged up on defense. By the way,

2054
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 5: the two Florida State kids on the Rams, they're gonna

2055
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 5: be really good both Fisk and U and Verse, they're

2056
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 5: gonna be really good.

2057
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: Verse.

2058
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 3: That Bears defense is pretty good too, isn't it.

2059
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 5: Pete really good?

2060
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be a tough game. And yeah in London.

2061
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, do the Titans get their first win tonight? Anybody,

2062
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 2: any takers?

2063
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 5: I think that.

2064
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 7: I think the Titans win.

2065
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 5: I think the Titans win. Do you really?

2066
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley is starting for the Dolphins.

2067
01:34:58,840 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't.

2068
01:34:59,280 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 5: I just don't think.

2069
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,759
Speaker 2: I just don't not the answer.

2070
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 7: I'll take his man.

2071
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 5: Levis has actually played pretty good except for his dumb mistakes.

2072
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 5: If he doesn't make a dumb mistake, he's gonna play well.

2073
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 5: And remember he beat them last year in Miami.

2074
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 3: Well, Ky, are you gonna try to shot at the

2075
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 3: Monday Night inture like Jack? Yeah, take a shot.

2076
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 2: Okay, go for it. Monday Night Football, We have a

2077
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 2: doubleheader coming your way. We start out in South Florida

2078
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 2: with two teams desperate for a win. Tyler Huntley starting

2079
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins and the Titans, the only other winless

2080
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: team in football. Kickoff at seven thirty five. The late

2081
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: game head north to the Motor City as the undefeated

2082
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: Seahawks head to town looking for an upset over the Lions.

2083
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 2: Who you got.

2084
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 3: I love it. Well done, guy, well done. I'm going

2085
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 3: Lions over Seahawks, and uh, I'm gonna go with the Titans.

2086
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 3: I think the Dolphins have issues across the board.

2087
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they should have lost to the Jaguars. That

2088
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 5: tells you all the issues they I'll take the Titans

2089
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna take the Lions as well. I think

2090
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 5: the Lions. Look, the Seahawks are three and zero. They

2091
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 5: beat Bo Knicks in his first start at home. They

2092
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 5: beat Twuillis Dolphins last week, and they beat the Patriots

2093
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 5: on the road. That's their three wins.

2094
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I actually think the Lions hang a

2095
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 3: pretty good number on them.

2096
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 2: All right, we do want to quickly mention special game

2097
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: this week week.

2098
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, alumni weekend. All the guys we back. Would be

2099
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 3: a lot of fun to see everybody. But most importantly,

2100
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 3: we are honoring and putting the architect of this franchise

2101
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 3: from the beginning and the head coach of the original team,

2102
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: Tom Coughlin, two times Super Bowl champ and one of

2103
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 3: the greatest coaches ever played walk the sidelines, will be

2104
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. One Pro Football Hall of

2105
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 3: Fame one day, yes, and looking forward to seeing his

2106
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 3: name up on the stadium.

2107
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 2: That ceremony is going to be at halftime.

2108
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 5: It's going to be a big moment before we go. JP,

2109
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 5: who let's go.

2110
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, gentlemen. Kay Nannie Stevens filling in

2111
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,799
Speaker 2: for JP. Shader, Tony Viselli, Pete Prisco, everyone behind the scenes.

2112
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 2: Love it in Unhappy Hour. We'll see you next week.