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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bruce. It's time to get out the chockboard

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Speaker 2: Here's what it all starts right here. That's why Jay

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Speaker 2: money Christmas. This is Inside Football with former Colts and

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Speaker 2: NFL coach Rick Venturie. Welcome to the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft version of Inside Football. Here with Rick vn Turrey.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor. Good to be with you. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry radio studio and it's

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Speaker 2: Draft week, one of the most exciting and important weeks

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Speaker 2: of the year. The Colts currently have seven picks in

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Speaker 2: the upcoming draft, which starts Thursday nights, and as of now,

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Speaker 2: the Colts will be selecting in every round, including fifteenth

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Speaker 2: overall in the first round, and we'll have live draft

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Speaker 2: coverage for on radio and also streaming on Colts dot

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Speaker 2: Com and the Colts Mobile app. Our coverage on Thursday

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Speaker 2: night will begin at seven o'clock, an hour before the

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Speaker 2: first round begins at eight o'clock Eastern time on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We'll be broadcasting from the Colts VIP Draft party up

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Speaker 2: at Top Golf in Fishers with myself, Rick Venturi, Casey Valier,

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Speaker 2: draft coverage beginning at seven o'clock on Friday night. And

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Speaker 2: again you can stream all of those shows on Colts

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Speaker 2: Friday you can hear it on ninety three WIBC because

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Speaker 2: of some pacer playoff overlap, but as always again Colts

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Draft week. I know you love this weekend.

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Speaker 2: How many drafts does this make for you here in

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Speaker 1: I'm probably too bitty that you want year, But to

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Speaker 1: for the Draft. I always have. This is number forty two.

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Speaker 1: This is number forty two on the draft, either being

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, my second year, we had the combine

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously everything does start, everything does start thirsty,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And the thing I like about him, which Peers

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Speaker 1: I'm taking Worthy, Matt for better or okay, for richer,

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Speaker 2: you have the offensive line depth in this draft? And

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Speaker 2: where do you think the Colts might target that in

430
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Speaker 2: this draft class?

431
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Speaker 1: Well, I think if you're going to get first of all,

432
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Speaker 1: you're not. I don't believe you're going to be able

433
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Speaker 1: to I don't think you should. You know, certainly, and

434
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: you know fifteen or twenty one or forty six, I

435
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: think you have to fill those two outside the numbers needs.

436
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll never forget this when I when I

437
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: first came in the league, the first thing that I

438
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: was told by an old, old personnel guy who I

439
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: still he's gone now, but I loved him. He said, Rick,

440
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: when you're drafting in that upper half, you take a

441
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Speaker 1: guy that either puts it in the end zone or

442
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: knocks the quarterback down. You know, nothing else, But I

443
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: could see a depth type of guy on the third pick. Okay,

444
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: And I think there'll be some guys because you know,

445
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: the draft will a lot of now, a lot of

446
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: these a lot of top guys are going to go

447
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: in the first round. There could be I bet you's

448
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: seven or eight offensive linemen go in the first round.

449
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some go in the second round. But

450
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: there's enough depth that guys like Morgan, Jay Fisher, there's

451
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Haynes McCormick. There's enough guys. I think that probably on

452
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: that third tick you can probably get a depth development guy. Probably,

453
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, I guess you're you know, not that you're

454
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: looking to replace him, but you know that he's getting there.

455
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: You know, eventually you're gonna have to take you know,

456
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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to have a substitute for Kelly

457
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: down the road. So what you're going to be looking

458
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: for is a versatile I think more of an inside guy.

459
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you took Freeland a year ago, you know,

460
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: I think he's got potential on the outside. I think

461
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: you're looking for more of an interior, you know, but

462
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: not not an interior backup guy. An interior maybe back

463
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: up to start with, but an interior guy that could

464
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: start down the road, you can play center guard.

465
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Speaker 2: Last one for me, Rick obviously. Chris Ballard said last

466
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: week at his pre draft press conference that he and

467
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: his staff they've got roughly nineteen to twenty one players

468
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 2: on their board with first round grades on them. What

469
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: do you make of that many first round grades? And

470
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: would that lend you to believe the Colts might be

471
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: in a position and I know how you feel about this,

472
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 2: but a position to trade back knowing they can you know,

473
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: get one of those players by moving back a few

474
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: spots while picking up extra draft picks along the way,

475
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: knowing that as far as Chris Ballard is concerned, you know,

476
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: seven draft picks going into a draft, that's a pretty

477
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: light number for him.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, really no disrespect to Chris, but

479
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: you know we've been doing this for seven years and

480
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a template for success, you know, I

481
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: mean seriously, I mean, you know, until we get the

482
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: game breaking you look at look at the three ambient players.

483
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: In my opinion, now we have a lot of good players.

484
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to minimize guys. If you look at

485
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: the three top players elite National Football League players that

486
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive or an offensive coordinator, you say,

487
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: I have to have a scheme for that guy. Number

488
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: one is Richardson, even though he's young. What was he

489
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: fourth in the draft? What was Buckner seventh pick in

490
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: the draft? I mean we got him at fifteen, but

491
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: he was originally a seventh pick in the draft. And

492
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: JT is an anomaly at forty one who we actually

493
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: traded up for. And the only reason that he was

494
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: forty one was because of the position devaluation. Is you

495
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: you get a bus load of solid guys, you know,

496
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: after those after that investment pick of one to two,

497
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: but after that stockpile in those draft draft picks, to

498
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: me is the biggest myth known demand. I'm going to

499
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: step up at fifteen and take the fastest human being

500
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Speaker 1: in the planet and get him on my teak. I

501
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: will say this. The only thing I think, because you

502
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: know Chris will and will possibly is when he says

503
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: there's twenty one, and what he's really telling you is

504
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: there's really only twenty one. And this is my point,

505
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: there's only only twenty one guys that you feel really

506
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: impact the draft. After that, it's good players, so you

507
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: damn sure better not go beyond twenty one.

508
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of the top of the draft, what do

509
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: you think about quarterbacks? We've never seen four quarterbacks take

510
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: on the first four picks. Is this the year? What

511
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: do you think happens at the top of the draft here?

512
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Speaker 1: Oh? I think it very well? Could you know? I

513
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: think you know it's good news for us, right and

514
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: you know they're definitely definitely four is gonna go into

515
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: top four are going to go before we pick at least,

516
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: whether it's the top four, that would be historic. Whether

517
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: it is or not, I guess I guess they picked

518
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: the top three. I think it's only three times in

519
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: history and never four, so it's possible. And that it's

520
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: just so inflated. I mean, all those guys are flawed,

521
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, but it is what it is. I mean,

522
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: you can't play without a quarterback, and so people are

523
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: gonna they value it so much. But of course that's

524
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: again why you miss why why even first round quarterbacks

525
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: is no better than fifty to fifty because you're reaching

526
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: all the time. Like I said, it's good for us,

527
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: because what it's really telling you is we're really picking eleventh.

528
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes to position players in the draft,

529
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Speaker 1: we're picking eleventh. We're not picking fifteenth. As far as

530
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: all of them, you know, they all have big time,

531
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, pluses and minuses. You know, the Bear seemed

532
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: committed to you know, to the to the kid at

533
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: USC and you know, he's a he's a playground guy.

534
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: You know, he makes plays, get he makes wild plays.

535
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he's necessarily consistent out of the pocket,

536
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: which would scare me. I really really like Daniels out

537
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: of LSU. I just think that he has tremendous pocket

538
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: ability and then when he takes off he can go

539
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: eighty yards for touchdown. But I think he has a

540
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: better pocket awareness. Now he's a little slight, you know,

541
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: he's not the not the biggest guy at six y four,

542
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: what is he like sixty four or ninety five or something.

543
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: There's a little slight, you know. And then you know,

544
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: McCarthy is just I'm shocked at it that he's just

545
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: flying up the draft boards. I'm like, goodness, gracious, he's

546
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: like mercury, you know there, you know, and poor May.

547
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's picking him clean. You know, here's the thing,

548
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: and you guys know this because you've been through it

549
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot now and I remember when I was involved totally.

550
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: Is you know, you get to those last first of all,

551
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: the last month before the draft is lying season. It's

552
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: just the lying season, and everybody just lies. And I

553
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: swear to God that stuff that was put out on

554
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: Stroud last year. I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist,

555
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: but was Houston that's sharp to do that? Yeah? I

556
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: don't know, but here's what I do though. It's one

557
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: thing when you're making that pick in February twenty ninth

558
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: March twenty ninth, but when you get in that last

559
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: few days, boy, it is it is tight ass because

560
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: you're making it, you make that quarterback mistake, you are

561
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: coming back from it. You know it's your franchise. You're

562
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: living or dying on that.

563
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: That's how it goes. Everybody's attached to that franchise quarterback or.

564
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: I like, and you probably I don't know if you

565
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: agree with me or not. I we you and I

566
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: have talked about it a little bit. I'll tell you.

567
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: The guy that impresses me more and more is Panix.

568
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: I tell you, I didn't you know when I first

569
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: started watching him, and of course we knew the background

570
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: in Indiana.

571
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see that. That's that's it. That's it for me, Rick,

572
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: I think I watched too much Indiana film and not

573
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: enough Washington film.

574
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: You know, we did. And you know, when I first

575
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: but and then at first he's left handed, is a

576
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: little bit yeah, you know, it's a little bit unusual.

577
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: And he looks like he's slinging it. But I'll tell you,

578
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: the more I watch him, I mean, he slings it,

579
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: all right, but he puts it on the money. He

580
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: can throw that deep ball. He ran a four or

581
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: five to the other day despite all the injuries. And

582
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's just the other day. I happened to

583
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: be watching the Big ten network. I was just prouising

584
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: and it was the Penn State game, right it No,

585
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: it was a Michigan game. Okay, all right, okay, it

586
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: was Indiana Michigan, and I see panics. So I sit

587
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: down and watch. He was terrific. Back then, I'm going like,

588
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: how did this guy get away? You know? But I

589
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: just there's something about that kid I really really like.

590
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Right now, we'll see how he factors into that quarterback

591
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: equation in the first round, that's great stuff. Rick. Anything

592
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: else that we we missed going into the draft, anything

593
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: else that you can think of that we should hit

594
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: on before we sign off here.

595
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: No, you know, I mean I think, you know, everybody

596
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: kind of knows more like more or less, everybody kind

597
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: of knows where I come from it. And I learned

598
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: some principles early in the draft, early in my days,

599
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: forty two years ago, and they haven't changed that much,

600
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: you know. In the first one, the first one, and

601
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: this is Jimmy Ursay has always said this. Jim is

602
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if he if he coined it, but

603
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, you he always used to say this. You know,

604
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: the draft comes to you. You don't go to the draft.

605
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: You know, you have your bord is to set and

606
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: hopefully you you know it, really your borders set. So

607
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: hopefully you rated guys correctly. That's the bottom line. And uh,

608
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, and at every spot, at every spot that

609
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: you're at, uh, there's going to be a cluster of players.

610
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Our rule of thumb was always never compromised for a

611
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: need and go beyond a line, a hard line. What

612
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: went ended by that, I mean is, let's say you

613
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: have four guys that are rated like seven to one,

614
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: seven two, seven, three, seven four, and you say, well

615
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: worthy seven to one thing, but we need him, and

616
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: I think that's fine. But our rule of thumb was

617
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: you never went down to a six ' nine for

618
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: a need. You never crossed you never crossed below a

619
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: certain line. And and then you know, if you're if

620
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: you're moving up, you're definitely moving up for a player,

621
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: and if you're moving down, you're moving down for some volume.

622
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: With the idea that you can get the same guy

623
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: for players, you know, maybe you go fifteen twenty one,

624
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: feel like you could get the same guy, you know.

625
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: And again again I've always said, you know, and I

626
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: think this is really true of fifteen. Get people to

627
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: put it in the end zone or knock the quarterback down,

628
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, just get just get richardson that another impact player.

629
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: And my last one was, if you're gonna make a mistake,

630
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: make a fast one.

631
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: We'll see how bold the Colts are here in this draft.

632
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Always an absolute pleasure to step into the draft mind

633
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: of Rick Venturry forty plus years doing this and evaluating

634
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: players going into the draft, and it's always one of

635
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: the most fun weekends of the year. Like you talked about.

636
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be nuts, it's gonna be chaotic and thrilling.

637
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: There's gonna be trades making it unpredictable. And that's why

638
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: Draft season is a It's a season into itself and

639
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: that's people love it. It's reality TV that has huge

640
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: consequences down the road. And I know you're all over

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Speaker 2: it like you always are. Rick. Can't wait to do

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Speaker 2: these shows with you and be with you all weekend

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Speaker 2: talking football. Man. It's gonna be a blast.

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Speaker 1: It really is. And I'm really happy that we're going

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Speaker 1: over to Top Golf. You know that enthusiasm, you know

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Speaker 1: that enthusiasm that purveys that evening with all our season

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Speaker 1: ticket holders in at around. It really gives us juice as.

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Speaker 2: Well, no doubt about it. Bring your clubs longest drive, man.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take you this year. All right, Rick,

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Speaker 2: thanks as always for the time, man, and we'll see

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Speaker 2: it for the big weekend Draft weekend twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: All right, Matt coggat you all right again?

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Speaker 2: That's Rick vv Tury again. Rick and myself, Casey Valier,

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Gorman will have live draft shows for you Thursday

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Speaker 2: and Friday, night. Those can be heard on radio in

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis and streaming all over the world Colts dot com

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Speaker 2: and the Colts Mobile app. Draft weekend. It's here for

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Speaker 2: rick Vin Tury. I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 2: Inside Football and we'll talk to you Thursday night of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. So long,