1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: We are rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and there is a lot going on in the world 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: that we. 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Will dive into. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Our friend Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky will join us 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: at the top of the third hour of the program. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: He is our only guest today. Eight hundred and two 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: two eight A two. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: If you want to weigh in on a variety of 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: different topics that we will soon be diving in. 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: Two. 13 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: But this story. 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to dive into got a little bit of attention, 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: but I actually think it is super fascinating. We are 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: in the middle right now of what we all told 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: you would be coming, and it is the Biden's mental 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: and physical cognition. Everybody knew how bad it was, and 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: some of the stories that were not told when Biden 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: was still in office are now being told. And there 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: is a new story out that I think should have 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: gotten more attention than it has so far, and I 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: This with you. 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: New upcoming book that is out about Biden's ongoing mental 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: and physical struggles in the White House Sunday New York Times, 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: I read it. This is coming from a couple of 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: different reporters. The book How Trump re Took the White 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: House and Democrats Lost America says that in twenty twenty 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: four February, that there was a substantial debate inside of 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: the White House about Joe Biden doing a cognitive test, 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: because in February of that year, if you'll remember, they 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: came out with the Her Report, which described the President 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: as a sympathetic. 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Well meaning elderly man with a poor memory. 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: At that point in time, the story becoming such an 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: issue that they thought about having Biden take a cognition test, 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: but they were afraid that he would not be able 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: to pass. Now, this is in February of twenty twenty four, 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: he still buck had nearly a full year as President 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: of the United States, and they did backchannel conversations, according 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: to the book, and the physician said, I'm not gonna 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: lie if he fails it, basically, and so they didn't 44 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: believe that Biden would be able. 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: To pass the test. 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: This is again, this is the New York Times reporting 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: a book that's going to be out soon. This is 48 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: one of the things that is in the book. If true, 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: If this is true. 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: This is a cover up that I believe would be criminal, 51 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: because if you have a president of the United States 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: and his staff which is publicly proclaiming that he's sharp 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: as attack and that he's going to be able to 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: run for reelection and be president for four more years, 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: but privately, that same staff that's saying that publicly is 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: afraid that if he took a cognition test, and these 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 2: cognition tests are not we're not talking about the SAT 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: the Act rolled into one. It's not an ap course. 59 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: It is a very basic test that elderly people sometimes 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: take to see whether or not they have severe dementia, 61 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: or whether their mental and physical capabilities are enough for 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: them to instance be able to live at home or 63 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: drive a car, these kind of things. Buck This is 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: staggering if this is true, because it would mean, thankfully 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: we got through it, but that what we were all 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: talking about was likely true, and that for a year 67 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: the White House was trying to cover up the entire 68 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: last year of his presidency that many of his top 69 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: aides didn't even think that he could pass a basic 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: cognition test, and that's the reason they didn't have him 71 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: do it. Well, that's because everybody knew that this guy 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: had dementia. But the entire system, the entire apparatus, was 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: completely enmeshed in the line and they knew, right, what's 74 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: going to be interesting here is how do they get 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: past this? And some of you, I will say, have 76 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: been pointing out, Look, we're going to talk about the 77 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: tariffs and the latest. You know, the latest is that 78 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Trump knows what he's doing and it's all fine. So 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: every needs to calm down a bit. But we'll talk 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: about the news of the day, of course with respect 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: to that. But why does this story still matter so much? 82 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: It matters because it shows everybody just how deep the 83 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: rot was between the Democrat Party and the corporate Democrat media, 84 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: the old media institutions that still even until this last election, 85 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: I think Clay had more of a more of a 86 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: claim to, oh, we're trustworthy and neutral than they should have. 87 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Had wised up a lot. But now, if you believe 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: The New York Times isn't pushing a left wing agenda, 89 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: you're just not very smart, right if you believe that 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: the Washington Post is objective journalism. Even Jeff Bezos doesn't 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: believe the Washington Post. He owns it, and he doesn't 92 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: think it's objective journalism based on what we've seen in 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: the last election cycle alone. He's figured this out, right, 94 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: So I think Clay, what's interesting is, you know there's 95 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: this reporting about the cover up and it comes out now, 96 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: and this is going to be one thing. This will 97 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: be contentious, especially for anybody who's trying to say, well, 98 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: look at all the good journalism we're doing now about this. 99 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: All of this was known and knowable before the election. 100 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: Real journalism would have been telling us about this before 101 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: the American people were voting, right, because it doesn't just 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: go to Joe Biden. It goes to the credibility of 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: the pro Kamala media and all of the stories around 104 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: her and all the things that were going on at 105 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: the time. So you know, you can't try to rig 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: the game. I watched my beloved New York Knicks last 107 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: night get a huge win, Clay, huge win over the 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: Boston Celtic. 109 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: It came back from twenty points down. When's the last 110 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: time you watched it full? Did you watch the whole 111 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: game or just the end of it? 112 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: No, My brothers texted me and said, stop being a communist. 113 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: They're about to win. There's five minutes left or something, okay, 114 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: And I said, okay, brothers. My brothers are the normal 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: ones in the family. They were watching, so I turned 116 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: it on. But you know, imagine if it came out 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: that that one of those teams had tried to rig 118 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: the game by paying off the refs. You're not a 119 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: hero for telling us that after the game is over 120 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: and you've played a year later, I think, and a 121 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: year later, that's not heroic. Okay. That's cleaning up after 122 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: the parade of elephants and horses, so to speak, has 123 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: already gone by. And that's what's going on here. It 124 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: is clean up on aisle journalism. And we're going to 125 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: have this out I think in time with then anybody 126 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: who sees it otherwise. Oh, by the way, which is 127 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: one more thing, Clay, if they could have gotten a 128 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: doctor to lie, they absolutely would have gone forward with it, 129 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: because all these people have their jobs writing on whether 130 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Biden can pass this cognitive test. The doctor, that's what 131 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to reference. This is, according to the New 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: York Times, is reporting on this book that's going to 133 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: come out. Mister Biden's longtime doctor, Kevin O'Connor told AIDS 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: he would not take the eighty one year old president's 135 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: political standing into consideration when treating him. Good for him? Basically, Yeah, 136 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: that guy is That guy is actually a hero in 137 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: this story when it mattered he had integrity that Biden's 138 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: have declined to comment on this story that is coming 139 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: out in this book. Can I just throw something out 140 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: there too? Sorry, you've got me fired up about this story. 141 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: Clay sent me this story, and now I'm fired up 142 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: about this story. Clay, you know who wanted the chief 143 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: You know, maybe the chief villain in this whole narrative 144 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: is going to be Jill Biden. Well, I'm arguing that 145 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: for a while you have because sit in this book, 146 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: it's going to completely align with your Jill Biden is 147 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: a chief villain. Take but I think we're going to 148 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: get some of those details. Now. Can you imagine hiding 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: your husband's dementia from the country in a reelection camp 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: we're not even talking about Can he just get to 151 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: the end? Right? That would be bad enough? Okay, just 152 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: six more months, Joe, just six more months, Clay. They 153 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: were telling us she should be president for four more years. 154 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: There are two other things in this story that are 155 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: in the book that I think is. Mike Donnellan, a 156 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: senior advisor to Biden had worked for him since the eighties, 157 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: told the Harvard Political Review in March, even when they 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: were worried about this cognitive test, every day, I keep 159 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: seeing him doing the job. I still think he's the 160 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: best person to be president today. David Axelrod, top advisor 161 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: to President Obama, called into question in July twenty twenty two, 162 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: whether Biden would be able to serve another four years. 163 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: He said, the stark realities the President's going to be 164 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: closer to the ninety than eighty at the end of 165 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: the second term. It would be a major issue. That comment, 166 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: according to the book, prompted an angry call to Axelrod 167 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: from Ron Klaym, then mister Biden's chief of staff. He said, 168 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: there's no Obama out there acts who's going to do 169 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: it if he doesn't do it. That is why they covered. 170 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: It's not only Buck that they were aware and they 171 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: wanted to maintain power and everything else. It's that I 172 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: think they realized there was no one else who could 173 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: do better against Trump than Biden. So they were willing 174 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: to weakend at Bernie's two Joe Biden as long as 175 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: they could keep this lie going, and that's because there 176 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: wasn't somebody in the wings that they thought was better 177 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: and they ended up being correct because Kamala couldn't do 178 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: it either. I'll also point this out, Clay. I know 179 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: you're I know you're with me on this, but I 180 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: just think we have to keep on reminding everybody because 181 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: remember the people that went along with this line, they 182 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: all still run the Democrat Party. They're all still calling 183 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: the shots at most of you know, the non Fox networks, 184 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: although actually, you know, congrats to uh uh Newsmax and 185 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: news Nation for all the gains they're you know, they're 186 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: making a lot of gains, and it's and they've earned 187 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: it because they've built their brands at a time when 188 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: these other brands are just going into the side of 189 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: the mountain at high speed. But Clay, if they could 190 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: have held off on the debate until the election, yeah, 191 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: they would have even still the story. That's still the story. 192 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: I want to know more about why did they decide 193 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: to do it, And I think it was the biggest 194 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: blunder in political history of Clay. They should they would 195 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: have gotten away with this, in my mind. Now, I 196 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: don't know if they would he would have beaten Trump. 197 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: That's a different question. I don't think so. Look at 198 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: look at the results in the election. But they would 199 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: have dragged him to election day. All they had to 200 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: do was say, Joe refuses to platform an election denier. 201 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: You have to say it like that because you have 202 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: to have no testosterone when you say it, Joe refuses 203 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: to platform an election denier. The American people will decide 204 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: at the ballot box. Play. They could have kept Biden 205 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: in the seat. And I'll say this, it would have 206 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: if they had done that, forget about the debate, it 207 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: would have been a better showing for them than it 208 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: was with Kamala. I think, no question in my mind. 209 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: I think that's still the great untold story. Why did 210 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: they insist, Remember it was their call. 211 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: Why did they insist on the early debate because they're 212 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: lying about his mental and physical cognition. Already, he'd already 213 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: locked up the overall nomination. 214 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: There was nothing they could have done to him. If 215 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: they had just waited to do a debate until September October, 216 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: it would have destroyed his chance, says I think of 217 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: reelection because everybody would have seen it, and it would 218 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: have been impossible to replace him at that point in time, 219 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: but why not? 220 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: Or we said it for a while, we thought that 221 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: Biden might say, I'm not even going to platform Trump 222 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: because his ideas are too. 223 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: Crazy. People have seen this debate already. They know what 224 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: he thinks, they know what I think. I believe that 225 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: that might have been the better play, because then they 226 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: could have kept the lie going. I think if you 227 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: and I were running the Biden twenty twenty four campaign, 228 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: talk about a thought experiment, and we had and we 229 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: had sold our souls, and the whole point was anything 230 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: because if we believe, let's say that Trump was the 231 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: end of the Republic, which isn't that just even more 232 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: insane now that we look around her, like, I mean, 233 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: the country is healing and things are going great. Yeah, 234 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: that's the end of the Republic. We could have gotten 235 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: Biden to election day. Look at all this stuff they 236 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: were able to suppress. They could that. I agree with 237 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: you who pushed forward the early debate, because there are 238 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: only two options. The biggest own goal self inflicted wound 239 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: in modern American politics. Or maybe somebody was like, I 240 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: just can't be a part of this anymore. I think 241 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: that's less likely, I do, but it's not impossible. That 242 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: would have been the House of Cards part. You know, 243 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: if this is the television show that Netflix did back 244 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: in the day, the House of Cards version would be 245 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: we're going to trot him out there and we're going 246 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: to let him go up in flames. But it is 247 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: crazy to me that they let this guy debate in 248 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty seven. I just think it's crazy. 249 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: We'll talk about this. We'll take some of your calls 250 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: AI everywhere. If your business isn't using it, you're losing money, productivity, 251 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: and a competitive edge. 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Clay, Travis, and 269 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Buck sext to them. 270 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: Find them on. 271 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: The free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 272 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: Hot off the presses so speak. Clips of President Trump 273 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: from the Oval Office addressing some of the most important 274 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: news of the day. Let's start with the huge announcement. 275 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Probably some people are saying the biggest announcement of all announcements. 276 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: We don't yet know much other than well, here's the 277 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: President saying it. Listen to him. We'll have maybe before 278 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: we want to. 279 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 6: As you know, the released in Saudi Arabia. 280 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 7: We're going to Uee and Qatar and that'll be I 281 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 7: guess Monday night. 282 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 6: Some of you are coming with us. 283 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 8: I think before then we're gonna have a very very 284 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 8: big announcement to make like as big as it gets, 285 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 8: and I won't tell you on. 286 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 6: What, but it's gonna and it's very positive. I'd also 287 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 6: I tell you if it was negative or positive. 288 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: I can't keep that. 289 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 6: It is really, really positive. And that announcement will be 290 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 6: made either Thursday or Friday or Monday before we leave. 291 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 7: But it'll be one of the. 292 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 6: Most important announcements that have been made in many years 293 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 6: about a certain subject, very important subject, so you'll all 294 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: be here. 295 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's got to be the Abraham Accords with 296 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia coming on board. Yes, does that make sense. 297 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: That makes the most sense to me too. I don't 298 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: think it's a breakthrough with Iran. We would have gotten 299 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: some whispers about that beforehand. And plus I just don't 300 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: think Iron's ever going to say, you know what, We're 301 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: not gonna get nukes. So I think that Saudi. It 302 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: might be in agreement with Saudi that is an extension 303 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: of the Abraham Accords and also a commitment from Saudi 304 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: to invest you know, a trillion dollars in the US 305 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: over the next twenty years or something, I don't know, whatever, 306 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: trillion dollars. A lot of money, not so much to Saudi. 307 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: I feel like they'll they'll pay that for a soccer 308 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: team these days. But yeah, that's something that I think 309 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: is a likely possibility. I would love to think that 310 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: it would be. You know, we're turning all the hostages 311 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: from israel I from a Hamas to Israel, but I 312 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: think that that is now going into a different phase 313 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: of the Israeli are doing the final push in that operation, 314 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: as they well should, and that's going to change some 315 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: dynamics in the Middle East too. I also think it 316 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: has to be someone that you have good relations with 317 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: in order to be confident that that deal is going 318 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: to be able to be announced. Does that make sense? 319 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: Like Iran is constantly shifting. They may say something on 320 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: Wednesday that's different than what they said on Monday. You 321 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: can't really rely on them Hamas, You can't rely on 322 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: anything related to what they might say publicly. So I 323 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: think it would have to be someone that the government 324 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: would have a good relationship with that you could rely 325 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: on being reasonable. I don't think you could say, for instance, 326 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: with Vladimir Putin and Russia, that you feel comfortable enough 327 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: in them to even forecast something like this, So That's 328 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: why I think the idea of the Abraham Accords being expanded, 329 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: which is hugely important long range in the Middle East. 330 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: By the way, this is something that is significant that 331 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: I saw. Also, there's a report that Trump I don't 332 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: know if we if he said this or if this 333 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: is an official report, that India has basically agreed to 334 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: zero tariffs on American products inside of their country. That 335 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: could be utterly transformative in the decades ahead, because India 336 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: is now the biggest country in the world, and unlike China, 337 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: which is collapsing in population and I think has already peaked, 338 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: I think India is going to become the second biggest 339 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: economy in the world in the next fifty years. And this, then, 340 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: I think is a good moment for us to take 341 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: a look at what is being said now from some 342 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: very infant, very astute places about the Trump tariffs conversation. 343 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: Glenn Youngkin one of the I would say top five 344 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: I've maybe top ten, top five governors in America right 345 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: now in Virginia doing a great job and also a 346 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: former very senior level executive, and he was the CEO 347 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: of the Carlisle Group, which is one of the largest 348 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: private equity firms in the world. This is the governor 349 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: of Virginia, and like I said, a guy who also 350 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: understands private industry saying that, well, I'll let you hear 351 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: it from him. This is cut three. 352 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 9: I expect that long term we will have an accelerated growth, 353 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 9: and I'm very optimistic. I think in the near term, 354 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 9: as the President resets these imbalanced trade relationships and restores 355 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 9: fiscal responsibility into Washington, we're going to see this location. 356 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 9: It's just a reality. But what I do firmly expect 357 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 9: is investment from companies around the world to accelerate. I 358 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 9: expect job growth to accelerate. 359 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 2: I think you're already beginning to see some of that. 360 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: The job's numbers. This is Scott Bessen. This has cut 361 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: one in the first one hundred days. You need to 362 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 2: hear about these jobs. Remember, not all government, you know, 363 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: make believe jobs, or at least low show jobs. It's 364 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: jobs in the actual economy. 365 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: Play. 366 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: This is from the Treasury Secretary Play one. 367 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 10: The core components of the Trump economic agenda are trade, 368 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 10: tax cuts, and deregulation. These are not standalone policies. They 369 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 10: are interlocking parts of an engine designed to drive economic 370 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 10: growth and domestic manufacturing. Tax cuts and cost savings from 371 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 10: deregulation raised real incomes for families and businesses. Terrorsts create 372 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 10: an incentive for reshoring jobs, and fair trade and deregulation 373 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 10: complements teriffs by making it easier to invest in energy 374 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 10: and manufacturing projects. Already, this agenda is bearing fruit. In 375 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 10: the first one hundred days the new administration, four hundred 376 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 10: and sixty four thousand new jobs were added to the economy. 377 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: Clay that people just need to give this some time. 378 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: And I think which seeing here is first of all, 379 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: I just fifteen years in conservative media all in the 380 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: beginning of this, when I got into this, we would 381 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: always hear we need private industry minds in government. We 382 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: need people who understand how jobs are created in the economy, 383 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: not by siphoning money from taxpayers to people who don't 384 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: actually necessarily do anything or add anything with some of 385 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: these government with some of this government bloat. We have 386 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: this now in a way we not only on the advisors, 387 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: but Trump himself, right, somebody who understands the private sector. 388 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: You look at even Scott Bessant, you compare him to 389 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: Biden's Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen. Yellen is an academic economist. Okay, 390 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: that's who is running the Treasury before Bessant is a 391 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: guy who had to place multi billion dollar bets and 392 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: be right about the trajectory of economic growth, about what 393 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: was actually going to happen in the global economy. We 394 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: have doors and practitioners now, clay not theorists and faculty 395 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: lounge layabouts. 396 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, I think that's why you know, the 397 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: caller from San Diego is fired up. I think people 398 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: sometimes have unrealistic expectations of what is capable of doing 399 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: with the ship of state. And I've had this analogy 400 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: made to me a lot over the years. You know, 401 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: in the world of sports, the smaller the team, the 402 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: quicker you can adjust the direction. So if you're a 403 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: basketball coach, it's like a speedboat. You can change a 404 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: couple of players. You can turn it around football teams 405 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: like an aircraft carrier. The United States is the largest 406 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: floatable ship on the planet. It's very hard to turn 407 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: it in any particular direction. Now, sometimes that can be 408 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: good because if people make really poor choices, then the 409 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: degree to which they can shift the direction of the 410 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: country is limited. But you've made the argument for years here, 411 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: and it's a pessimistic one, but I think there's some 412 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: truth to it that the president doesn't largely matter because 413 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: the apparatus surrounding the president is such that they're going 414 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: to direct the ship in the way they see best. 415 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: And you made that are Biden was a test of 416 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: my theory. Yes, right, Biden was a real world experiment 417 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: of is it the machinery and not the man? With Trump, 418 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: That's obviously not the case, but I'm just saying it 419 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: can be what we just. 420 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: Saw well, and this is why I think Elon Musk 421 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: has been so frustrated. And look, I love that Elon 422 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: Musk and Scott Bessant and Howard Ludnik and all of 423 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: these guys that are super successful outside of government are 424 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: in government trying to do their best. Trump is a 425 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: great example of that too, but in sports, and I've 426 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: never seen it applied in politics, but I love the 427 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: concept and it's such an interesting one. There's something called 428 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: win over replacement value, and I think you can apply 429 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: it to all of your life. It's such an interesting concept. 430 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: You know, there's basically a war, you know, win above 431 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: replacement for every player. And I mentioned Aaron Judge is 432 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: the best player in baseball right now statistically across the board. 433 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: His stats a New York Yankee player are off the charts. 434 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: He has worth multiple wins compared to someone that might 435 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: be replacing him at a position. I think you can 436 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: apply it to politics. How much better is Trump not 437 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: only than any other Republican but than Kamala. I think 438 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: massively right, because over every day, every decision, the trajectory 439 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: of the USS aircraft carrier is very different based on 440 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: the judgments Trump is making versus what Kamala is making, 441 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: versus what Biden did. But within the constraint, I would 442 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: argue that it is impossible for any president to move 443 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: faster and break more things than Trump has done in 444 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: the first hundred days. And therefore, when you call in 445 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: and say, and I understand, people get frustrated, But I 446 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: think it's important to understand the larger construct. There are 447 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: people out there who will tell you, oh, the president 448 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: can do whatever he wants, and he can take forty 449 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: eight thousand different actions. 450 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: And the reality is. 451 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: Trump is moving faster and breaking more things than anything 452 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: I have ever seen from any president in the history 453 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: of our country. And if you are out there saying 454 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: he needs to move faster and he needs to break 455 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: more things. I respect it. 456 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: I would just point out that historically, no one has 457 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: moved at the pace that Trump has ever in the 458 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: history of the United States government. I really think that's true. 459 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: And they're trying to make government move more like a business. 460 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: And if you have ever run a business, one of 461 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: the great things about sitting at the head of the table, 462 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: if you own the businesses, for better or worse, you 463 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: make a decision and buck. One of the management lessons 464 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: that I think I've learned is it's better to make 465 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: a wrong decision than not do anything. And some people 466 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: think that's crazy, but actually it's important because you can 467 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: give you it's a wrong decision. One of the things 468 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: that at the CIA farm, this is our training facility, 469 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: that they would always talk about in the context of 470 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: counter ambush, somebody's trying to take you out. They would 471 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: just and I know this military talks about this too, 472 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 2: but they would say get off the X and they 473 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: would They drilled into our brain when you are under threat, 474 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: the worst thing you can do freeze is nothing. The 475 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: worst thing you can do is I don't want to 476 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: make the wrong decision. So I make no decision. Yes, 477 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: you can pay with your life or that one. There's 478 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: a there's a broader lesson, there's a broader principle. There 479 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: got to just do sometimes because sitting around and especially 480 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 2: given the time constraints, I think the Trump administration is 481 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: under with the midterms. As we've discussed that moving as 482 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: fast as possible, Moving as fast as possible is its 483 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: own advantage in a system which we've already seen for 484 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: all of our adult for all of our lives, that 485 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: can always fall back on inaction as its preferred plan. 486 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: And the Democrats were hoping that there would be inertia 487 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: even with Trump coming in. The inertia of government would 488 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: be a protection for what they want, which is the 489 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: status quo. Yes, no, he's smashing that by moving so 490 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: fast in so many places. And I would argue, again, 491 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: this is me being a history nerd. Probably the person 492 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 2: who's moved the government the fastest in the lives of 493 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: anyone out there that is listening to us right now, 494 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: certainly the adult lives of anyone that's listening is Lyndon Johnson. 495 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 2: And Lindon Johnson was able to move the government so 496 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: rapidly in his one term after one term plus change 497 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: when he took over for JFK. Because he was a 498 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: genius of Senate procedure and so he was able to 499 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: move Congress at a speed in the Senate in particular, 500 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: that it had never moved at before because he knew 501 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: the inner workings of procedure in the Senate, having spent 502 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: time there better than almost anyone. A correlary to that 503 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: was Charlie Wilson's war where I for Doc whatever his 504 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: name is, I forget now, but the member of Congress 505 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: who was like on the you know, the Finance, the 506 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: Spending Committee, whatever it was at the time, And Charlie 507 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: Wilson knew, if I just got this guy in my pocket, 508 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: I got whoever I need in my pocket to get 509 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: the things through that I need to get through. So 510 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: understanding that system is critical. Trump has come in not 511 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: just with the right team to decide, but with people 512 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: like Steven Miller and others who know how the system functions. 513 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 2: And this is part of what I think Clay has 514 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: driven Democrats so insane because first time around, Trump great ideas, 515 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: first term not an understanding of the system. So yes, 516 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: a huge, huge difference this time around look here in 517 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: South Florida, we get a huge downpours. 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Pierre Paulyev, he of apple 545 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: eating an indifference to media fame, did not succeed in 546 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 2: his effort to become the PM of Canada. I'm going 547 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: to put this out some of our Canadian listeners, what 548 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: the heck happened there? Guys? You're you're hearing us up 549 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: because you know, some of our big New York stations 550 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: play stretched, you know, well into Canada. Probably some of 551 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: our Michigan stations, I would assume too. I gotta check 552 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: the wattage, but yeah, I think that they can be 553 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: heard where the Canadian population is. We got Canadian listeners 554 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: for sure, some of them streaming what happened there? Well, 555 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: here is Trump with the new Prime Minister of Canada, 556 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: Mark Carney. I'd never heard of until this talking about 557 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: this play. 558 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: It takes two to tango, right, But no, I do. 559 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I believe it would be a massive tax 560 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 6: cut for the Canadian citizens. You get free military, you 561 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 6: get tremendous medical cares and other things. There would be 562 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 6: a lot of advantages, but it would be a massive 563 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 6: tax cut. And it's also a beautiful you know, as 564 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 6: a real estate developer, you know I'm a real estate 565 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 6: developer at heart. 566 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 7: When you get rid of that artificially drawing line, somebody 567 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 7: drew that line many years ago with like a ruler, 568 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 7: just a straight line right across that top of the country. 569 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 7: When you look at that beautiful formation when it's together, 570 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 7: I'm a very artistic person. But when I looked at 571 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 7: that beauty, I said, that's the way it was meant 572 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 7: to be. But you know it's I just I do 573 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 7: feel it's much better for Canada. But we're not going 574 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 7: to be discussing that unless somebody wants to discuss it. 575 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 7: I think that there are tremendous benefits to the Canadian citizens, 576 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 7: tremendously lower taxes, free military, which honestly, we give you 577 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 7: essentially anyway because we're protecting Canada if you have had 578 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 7: a problem. But I think you know it's it would 579 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 7: really be a wonderful marriage because it's two places. 580 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: They get along very well, they like each other a lot. 581 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: So then Carneybuck responded, and I think we have Carney's response. 582 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: So Trump still pushing, and I love it. He just 583 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: everybody wants to say, like, what is Trump. Trump's a 584 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: real estate guy at his core, he's a real estate guy, 585 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: and he's looking at Greenland, and he's looking at Panama, 586 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: and he's looking at Canada. And the truth of the 587 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: matter is some of the most successful presidents that we've 588 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: ever had basically have been real estate guys. Thomas Jefferson 589 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Louisiana Purchase, kind of a good Deal, Gadsden Purchase, Seward's Folly. 590 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: When we gudge. Washington was a real estate guy and 591 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: a landlord, in fact, a speculator. Some would argue that 592 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: nearly went bankrupt many different times over the amount of 593 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: land that he was acquiring back to the day most 594 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: of the founding fathers big agrarian land related guys. But 595 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: then Carney responded, and I actually liked his response, and 596 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: you can hear Trump laugh because I think Trump kind 597 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: of respects it a little bit too. 598 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 12: Listen, as you know from real estate, there are some 599 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 12: places that are never for sale. We're sitting in one 600 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 12: right now, you know, Bucking and Pallas and you visited 601 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 12: as well, and having met with the owners of Canada 602 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 12: over the course of the campaign last several months, it's 603 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 12: not for sale, won't be for sale ever. But the 604 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 12: opportunity is in the partnership and what we can build together. 605 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 12: And we have done that in the past. And part 606 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 12: of that, as the President just said, is with respect 607 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 12: to our own secure and my government is committed for 608 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 12: a step change in our investment in Canadian security and 609 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 12: our partnership. And I'll say this as well, that the 610 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 12: President has revitalized international security, revitalized NATAL and US playing 611 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 12: our full weight in NATO, and that will be parts. 612 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: I think Trump Buck is one hundred percent right that 613 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 2: the world would actually be better off. And look if 614 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: Canada was a part of the United States. I think 615 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent right. Here's the problem. It's not 616 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: going to happen. One two. 617 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: If it did happen, the devil or in the details, 618 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: most of those voters would be far left wing voters, 619 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: so you would actually have to instead of making Canada 620 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: fifty first state, you would have to in some way 621 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: create some of the rural Canadian areas to give them 622 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity so that we could have senators who were 623 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: not insane. It would if Canada were a part of 624 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: the United State. Dates and not very many people have 625 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: talked about this. Kamala might well have won the presidency 626 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: because you're bringing in thirty five million ish new voters, 627 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: and that new voter registry is about two to one 628 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: Democrat in America over Republican. So look, Trump's right, they 629 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: would get a huge tax cut. I think the overall 630 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: economy would be better for both countries if Canada were 631 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: a part of. 632 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: The United States. I think that's all true. It's not 633 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: going to happen. And the reality here is if it 634 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: were going to happen, the details in terms of what 635 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: it would be necessary to occur are substantial. What I 636 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: like about it is it goes to the growth mindset 637 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: of Trump. He's not looking at the United States as 638 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: a finished product. I bought a map recently and I'm 639 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: going to put it in the new house that we're building. 640 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: It's what I love about it is it's one of 641 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: those old school maps. Buck. 642 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Do you remember when used to be able to pulled 643 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: down the map and the teacher would pull out a 644 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: ruler or whatever and they would point to it and 645 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: it would be this before everybody had the camp had 646 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: the computers to be able to put everything imaged out there. 647 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: And it's a map from like eighteen forty and it 648 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: has the continental United States, and most of the United 649 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: States is not filled in yet we didn't know what 650 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: the future of the country was going to look like. 651 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: And I love the ambition, the scope, the metaphor of 652 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: that unfilled map. And I think that is how Trump 653 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: thinks that the United States is not a fixed and 654 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: permanent and already fully formed country, that we still have 655 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: a lot of growth, and I think that is what 656 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: his expansionist mindset represents. Whether it's Greenland, whether it's Canada, 657 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: whether it's Panama, and making us think in different ways. 658 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: But that to me is the challenge of Canada. I'm 659 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: not sure even if it's a great idea, and I 660 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: do think it would be good for the economy overall, 661 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: that the Canadian voters would actually agree with much of 662 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: what we think is important in the United States right now. 663 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: But if it's not gonna happen, and I agree with 664 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: you that it's not gonna happen, why does Trump know 665 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: that it's not gonna happen? 666 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: Because why this is? This is where it's a great question. 667 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: I think Trump is a bit of a magical thinker. 668 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: This is my psychoanalysis of Trump. And what I mean 669 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: by that is, anytime you build something that hasn't been 670 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: built before, you have to be a creative, magical thinker. 671 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: Real estate developers have to see things that haven't occurred 672 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: and believe that they are possible. I think in Trump's mind, 673 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: he believes that anything can be negotiated, and so even 674 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: if there's a small chance of it happening, he thinks 675 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: by putting it out into the larger discussion, he actually 676 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: makes it somewhat possible. 677 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: In the same way, if you say, hey, I'm going to. 678 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: Build a two hundred story building, well, maybe that's not 679 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: going to end up happening, but the idea that you 680 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: think you can expands the Overton window of possibility. 681 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: Clay thinks that Trump is a man who dreams ye 682 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: great dreams, the greatest dreams. We got to call her 683 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 2: Dave in Maine. He says he lives right near the 684 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: Canadian border. Wants to weigh in on this Canada stuff. 685 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 2: What's going on, Dave, my gentlemen. 686 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, so my family is from Canada, back and forth. 687 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 13: We live right handy to it. My wife used to 688 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 13: grocery shop the every week, grew up playing hockey with 689 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 13: Canadian kids. My daughter works for a Canadian company, and 690 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 13: we got a lot of friends of the Canadians. What 691 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 13: happened was they were ready, the people that we know, 692 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 13: we're ready to go for Pierre, but the whole fifty 693 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 13: first state. Yeah, thing really touched off their national pride. 694 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 13: And we compete in another sport and we have Canadians 695 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 13: come over and compete with us, and they got so 696 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 13: peed off. They're like, we're not coming to the US 697 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 13: this year to compete and sorry, you know, I don't 698 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 13: take it personal, but you know it's an attack on 699 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 13: our country. I said, he's just one of them anyway, 700 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 13: but they didn't take it that way. And I always said, too, 701 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 13: you should have marketed it as there's ten provinces and 702 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 13: three territories in Canada. So one state wasn't nearly enough 703 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 13: to give them ten states, give them ten or thirteen states. 704 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 13: But all seriousness, Uh, that is really you know, that's 705 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 13: the feedback directly from my best friend lives no Scotiare. 706 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 13: And you know another thing too about is their news 707 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 13: is just horrendous. Like I'm always having to re you know, 708 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 13: tell them these listen to what's the fall of their 709 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 13: rebel news? You know, try to get some all ternative 710 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 13: news sources because their regular news they get is just 711 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 13: you know, do you think I mean. 712 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: It's it's communist drivel. I I know that because I 713 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 2: used to. I used to do some news back in 714 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: the day, which I think became rebel news or ezra levant. 715 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: You know, very early in my career, I actually appeared 716 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: on Canadian TV when I needed more TV reps play. 717 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, how are my Canadian brothers and 718 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: sisters doing that? 719 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 10: Oh? 720 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: Really that's where you were. The the skills buck is 721 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: huge in Saskatchewan. You have no idea, I you know, 722 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: it's thank you for the call. By the way, I 723 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: do think to answer your question that the fifty first 724 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: state talk inside of Canada ignited national pride and it 725 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 2: lit on fire the hopes of conservative governments because they 726 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: were seen as closer to Trump. I'm also gonna say this, 727 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: it reminds you of somebody that I know, somebody I 728 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time with you today. 729 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 730 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if he needs to be named here, 731 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: But when you tell Trump not to talk about something, 732 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: or that he can't talk about something, guess what is 733 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: going to happen. And there are a lot of people 734 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: who said stop with the fifty first state talk. Yeah, Clay, 735 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 2: So somebody. 736 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: Could be I don't know how somebody could be that way. 737 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: I also think this ties in Trump also sees this 738 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: as entertainment. I'm gonna be honest with you, and I 739 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: know some people were offended by the Pope Trump as 740 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: Pope meme that got shared. I thought it was really funny. 741 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not Catholic, so I can't speak on behalf 742 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: of the Catholic universe of Trump spoke to this. Let's 743 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: hear his because, by the way, I am Catholic. I 744 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: went to Jesuit school and did all this stuff, and 745 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 2: you know know some of the things. I was not 746 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: even vaguely offended by this Okay, this is there are 747 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 2: things that appear about Catholicism or the way that it's depicted, 748 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: and the way the media and the focus on certain 749 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: things is offensive. I agree with Trump on this one 750 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. But here he is play cut five. 751 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 6: We're not so happy about the image of you looking 752 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 6: like the Pope. 753 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I see. 754 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 8: You mean they can't take a joke. You don't mean 755 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 8: the Catholics, show mean the fake news media, not. 756 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 2: The Catholics loved it. I had nothing to do with it. 757 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 8: Somebody made up a picture of me dressed like the 758 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 8: Pope and they put it out on the internet. That's 759 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 8: not me that did it. I have no idea where 760 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 8: it came from. Maybe it was Ai, but I know 761 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 8: nothing about it. I just saw it last evening. Actually 762 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 8: my wife thought it was cute, said, this is that nice? 763 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 8: Actually I would not be able to be married though 764 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 8: that would be a lot. To the best of my knowledge, 765 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 8: popes aren't big one getting married are not that we 766 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 8: know of now. 767 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean that we know of, not that we well, 768 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 2: we talked about this. There actually were a lot back 769 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: in the back in the day, with a lot of 770 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: illegitimate kids out there. If you if you study, it's 771 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: a really good Renaissance art that came out of those 772 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 2: naughty popes. So just putting it out there. And uh, 773 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: but so I thought that was funny. Again, I think 774 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: you tweeted this, and I do think it's important the 775 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 2: fact that Trump has maintained a sense of humor and 776 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: a lightness of being with the most important job in 777 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: the United States. I think it's probably fair to say. 778 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: Just a few months ago he took a freaking bullet 779 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: off his ear that nearly blew his head off on 780 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: live television, the thing that doesn't get talked about at all. 781 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: And I was with him at the NCAA Wrestling Championships 782 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: on that arena floor in Philadelphia. Most people who come 783 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: that close to death, who would have an assassin's bullet 784 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: clip their ear, Most people would be pretty apprehensive walking 785 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: into big crowded arenas. The guy is fearless, and I think, 786 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: to your point, has a lightness of bearing about him 787 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: that even though he is engaged in serious things, he 788 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: still has a sense of humor surrounding it. And so 789 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: I think he's putting it out into the ether, this 790 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: idea of Canada or Greenland or Panama, or whatever it 791 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: might be because of the expansionist idea, but also the 792 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: pope thing. I think he enjoys just having fun, or 793 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: the running for a third tournament office, all of these things. 794 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: I think he enjoys expanding the universe and kind of 795 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: ridiculing the people who are most opposed to him. 796 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: And I thought the Pope picture. I saw it, you know, 797 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: like I guess when did it come out? Just before 798 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby or something? And I thought it was 799 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,959 Speaker 2: pretty funny. I know a lot of Catholics. Okay, I'm 800 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 2: related to a lot of them too. I don't know 801 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: a single Catholic who thought that that was like blasphemous 802 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 2: or some big problem. All right, everyone can calm down. 803 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 2: You know, Trump Trump, like on the cross or something 804 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 2: that would upset people, Trumps the Pope. I think that's funny. 805 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll take some more of your calls. 806 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: We got Senator Rampaul joining us top of the third 807 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: hour after yesterday's debate about whether I could swim to 808 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: shore from Alcatraz. 809 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: A lot of disrespect for my swimming ability. I have 810 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 2: to say, I'm. 811 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: Bracing for the monster size shipment of Chalk's mel vitality 812 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: stack to arrive. 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Appreciate everybody 851 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. We're joined now by Senator Rand Paul, 852 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: a great State of Kentucky and Senat Paul I know 853 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: there's a ton of things we're gonna get into with you, 854 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: but I want to start with this, Anthony Fauci. The 855 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: evidence continues to mount that he lied about gain a 856 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: Function research. You, uniquely, I think in the entire political class, 857 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: have continued to hold his feet to the fire. 858 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 2: What is the latest about that that you can tell us. 859 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 3: We've been trying to get records on the deliberation of 860 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 3: who made the call to send the money to Wuhan, 861 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 3: the research, the lab, the league, who funded it. We 862 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 3: know the NIH did it, but we're going to know 863 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 3: who met about it, who discussed it, and who made 864 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 3: the final approval. We think that's Anthony Fauci, and we're 865 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 3: getting closer to that. The Biden administration refused to give 866 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: us any documents. They basically refused for years to give 867 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 3: any Robert Kennedy has opened up the books to us. 868 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 3: Jay Battachari and NIH is also helping us, and we're 869 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 3: sorting through it. We're going to begin interviewing everybody who's 870 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 3: part of the process. So there's a committee over there 871 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 3: that discussed it. When Fauci said, everybody told him that 872 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 3: it wasn't gained a function, it's interesting though, that the 873 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: committee has documents, and in the documents they have EcoHealth Alliance. 874 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 3: This is a group that got the money that took 875 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 3: it to Wuhan. They have EcoHealth Alliance sending notes back 876 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 3: to the NIA saying thank you for lifting our gain 877 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 3: of function pause. So they were paused the government quits 878 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 3: funding gain of function between fourteen and twenty sixteen. They 879 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 3: thank them for lifting their pause on the same research 880 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 3: that Fauci said was never gain function. So how do 881 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: you lift a pause in funding for a project that 882 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 3: was never gain a function if it was never a 883 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 3: gain a function. So we've got evidence like that. But ultimately, 884 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 3: once we've interviewed everybody, we will get to Anthony Fauci. 885 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 3: That will be within a month or two, and we'll 886 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 3: be having him come in and testify. 887 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 2: In terms of that testimony, what are you hoping to 888 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: be able to get final answers from Fauci on and 889 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 2: given the Senator Paul, given the preemptive pardon that he 890 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 2: was given, which is still pretty remarkable when I say 891 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: that out loud, that that even happened. What are you 892 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: hoping the final disposition of this whole situation will be? 893 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 3: You realize that's a preemptive pardon where they don't even 894 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 3: list your crime that he's hard for anything, stealing in 895 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 3: a larceny, grand larceny, assault, you name it. He's pardoned 896 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 3: for anything he could have done over a ten year period. 897 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 3: It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. I've never ever 898 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 3: heard of a pardon. It's preemptive and also includes any 899 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 3: possible crime he committed over a ten year period. I 900 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 3: don't have high hopes that he's going to be ultimately 901 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 3: held criminally responsible, but I think it's important that history 902 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 3: judges him accurately and harshly. He made a decision that 903 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 3: led to the million, millions of people dying, basically a 904 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 3: decision to fund a lab that was not up to 905 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 3: safety standards and fund research that was incredibly dangerous. We 906 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 3: also are concerned that this kind of research still goes on. 907 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 3: So the President came out in the last day or 908 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 3: so with a pause once again on gain to function research, importantly, 909 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 3: not just in our country, but a pause on all 910 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 3: funding we do around the world, because of course, you know, 911 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 3: Uncle Sam funds everybody's research lab everywhere in the world, 912 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 3: and some of these some of this, some people conjecture 913 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 3: Anthony Fauci farmed out because he wanted less scrutiny. So 914 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 3: if he wanted, you know, for example, some of the 915 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 3: most gruesome stuff that was done on beagles was done 916 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 3: in Tunisia. They did in Tunisia hoping that their sensibility 917 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 3: is about selling their eyelids open and infecting them with 918 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 3: sand fleas and then cutting their larynx out, so you 919 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 3: couldn't hear the dogs cry that there'd be less sensibility 920 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 3: for that somewhere else other than the United States. But 921 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: same way with the gain of function, we think some 922 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 3: of it was farmed out. We need to know the 923 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 3: degree of this, and we need to get to the 924 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 3: bottom of it. We're also very concerned with a couple 925 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 3: of labs near Fort Tetrick Kennedy closed one down and 926 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 3: the media reported he was anti science, but I heard 927 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 3: there of the accurate story from Jay Battachari. The accurate 928 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 3: story is someone's asthmat suit was purposely cut in one 929 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 3: of the areas dealing with Ebola and different very dangerous viruses. 930 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 3: So getting that kind of disease out of a lab, 931 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 3: if he were to have gotten infected, is incredibly dangerous 932 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 3: and so next to that lab is an niht A 933 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 3: DHS lab Department of Homeland Security that we now have 934 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 3: reports are doing experiments aerosolizing ebola. We think that somebody, 935 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 3: you know, somebody representing the taxpayer and the citizens of 936 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 3: the country ought to be able to take a look 937 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 3: at these labs and find out what experiments are doing 938 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 3: and really should we be doing some of this. 939 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: I think both all of this you just said is 940 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 2: really important because I think it answers two questions. One, 941 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 2: it is backward looking in the context of Fauci should 942 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 2: be seen as a villain of history and his full 943 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 2: trajectory of stories and lies should be analyzed for years 944 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 2: to come. That's backwards looking prospectively. As you just laid out. 945 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: The reason why this matters is if China created COVID, 946 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 1: which I think it's quite clear that they did partly 947 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: based on having gain a function access to American taxpayer dollars, 948 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: we should be massively concerned about. As you just laid out, 949 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: whatever for the next iteration of the virus that could 950 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: be created, is because it could end up far more 951 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: deadly than anything that we dealt with with COVID. I 952 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 1: think that's kind of a synthesis of all of this. 953 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: For people out there who would say, Okay, why are 954 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: we still talking about covid, Well. 955 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, the next virus could be avian flu. Avian 956 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 3: flu has a fifty percent death rate. Coronavirus or COVID 957 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: was less than one percent. So avian flu currently a 958 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 3: human can get it from chickens or from birds, but 959 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 3: doesn't go human to human. But there are experiments trying 960 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 3: to get it to go human to human, mammal to 961 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 3: mammal through the air. These have been funded by NIH. 962 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 3: This is the kind of stuff that has to be discussed. 963 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 3: Is it a death wish for humanity for someone to 964 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 3: try to get avi and flu and make it more 965 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 3: transmissible among humans? I think is the We should be 966 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 3: shouting this from the rooftop. This kind of research should 967 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 3: not occur, and the taxpayer shouldn't pay for it. But 968 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that we've actually gotten to that point yet. 969 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 3: The Trump administration's ban or at least temporary or maybe 970 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 3: longer on this is a good step. I have legislation 971 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 3: that would do this, and we actually have gotten bipartisan support. 972 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 3: I've passed it out unanimously out of committee. Last Congress, 973 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 3: do it again in the next month or so, and 974 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 3: then we're hoping it can be included in some kind 975 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 3: of legislation that's going to pass soon. But this would 976 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 3: actually let President Trump appoint a panel of scientists. And importantly, 977 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 3: these scientists would not be ones who get NIH grants, 978 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 3: so they can't be bribed to have an opinion. They 979 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 3: will be independent voices, but experts in their field, and 980 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 3: they will examine all government research, all classified and unclassified documents, 981 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,240 Speaker 3: and they will give their opinion on whether it should 982 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 3: be funded, and they will have the ability to stounding. 983 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 3: It will be a powerful committee, but it won't be 984 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 3: a total ban. It would be we're going to look 985 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 3: at case by case. The reason you need that is 986 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 3: if you just ban it and then the next people 987 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 3: come in and say, well, that's not gain a function. 988 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 3: That's what Anthony Vauschi did is oh, yeah, we were 989 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 3: had special safety forget to function, but this wasn't kain 990 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 3: to function. Anthonyphalgi to this day still argues that the 991 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 3: research in wu On that led to the death of 992 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 3: six to ten million people. He said that wasn't gain 993 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 3: of function, which nobody else he's other than Anthony Fauci speaking. 994 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 2: The Senator Ran Paul Kentucky Senator on President Trump today, 995 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 2: he spoke about the Houthis. I think he said there's 996 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 2: a deal that they have now. Essentially it's please stop 997 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 2: bombing us and we'll stop blowing up ships. But the 998 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 2: Houthis are an extension and allied with Iran. There's a 999 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 2: lot of talk right now about one of kind of 1000 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 2: I think you could say a rare disconnect or disagreement 1001 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: at the senior levels of some of the Trump personnel, 1002 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: and it has to do with Iran and what we 1003 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 2: should do about Iran and its nuclear ambitions going forward. 1004 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 2: How do you see that? Where do you think Trump 1005 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 2: is on this and where would you like to see 1006 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 2: this go? 1007 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 3: You know, I mean encouraged by the announcement today and 1008 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 3: Trump shows great strength and they back down, and so 1009 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 3: I think that is a good thing. And my hope 1010 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 3: is that we can get to a point where international 1011 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 3: shipping is safe to go around the bend there and 1012 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 3: up through the suss with regard to Iran. My hope 1013 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 3: is that we can move forward. And this is where 1014 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 3: Trump is different than some of the neo conservatives. The 1015 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 3: new Conservatives never want to get to the next step 1016 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 3: of negotiation. So Trump goes in with a firm hand, 1017 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 3: but he does get to the next step of negotiation. 1018 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 3: He did it with North Korea. Didn't necessarily work out, 1019 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 3: But most of the neocons, from Hillary Clinton to Bill Crystal, 1020 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 3: would have never talked to North Korea. They would never 1021 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 3: talk to an Iran. Ultimately, getting to the point where 1022 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 3: we talk to them is good because really the only 1023 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 3: realistic way of stopping them from getting a nuclear weapon 1024 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 3: isn't all likely. Who're likelihod through diplomacy. I don't think 1025 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 3: you can bomb away their nuclear knowledge. I don't think 1026 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 3: once they haven't rich unuranium. You know, a cupful of 1027 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 3: uranium enriched to ninety five or ninety eight percent is 1028 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 3: probably enough for a bomb. You know, once you get 1029 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 3: six or eight or ten up fuls of the uranium, 1030 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 3: your mitched to that point you have the rest of 1031 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 3: the technical knowledge to do it. You know, you can 1032 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 3: hide that thousands of feet below the ground where no 1033 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 3: bomb can get to. So, you know, I don't want 1034 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 3: that to happen, and we want to stop it, but 1035 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 3: ultimately it has to be both stick and carrot, And 1036 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 3: so ultimately you have to talk to people, and you 1037 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 3: have to This is the same thing we should be 1038 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 3: doing with Russia. You know, they're wanting to put more 1039 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 3: more sanctions on Russia. The Lindsey Graham Bill wants to 1040 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 3: put a five hundred percent tariff on everybody who buys 1041 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 3: oil from Russia. You know what that is. That's about 1042 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 3: forty or fifty countries by oil and gas and from 1043 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 3: from Russia. The five percent tariff would be a shutdown 1044 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 3: of basically all all commerce in the world. And me, 1045 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 3: it's a terrible idea. What we should be doing instead 1046 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 3: is going to Russia and say you want to get 1047 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 3: back in the banking system, you want to get rid 1048 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 3: of some sanctions stoming of Venezuela, and let's have a 1049 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 3: ceasefire and pea stalks. I think we have the ability 1050 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 3: to offer stuff, but I think I think we have 1051 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 3: so many sanctions already on these countries that really to 1052 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 3: get to diplomacy and get to the peace, the piece 1053 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 3: should be offering to remove sanctions and allow Russia back 1054 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 3: into the banking world. But they have to do something real. 1055 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 3: It has to be real seafire and has to really 1056 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 3: ultimately be a peace plan. 1057 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: All Right, I know it's a complicated topic, but I 1058 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: want to give you an opportunity to weigh in on 1059 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: tariffs and analyze this. Reports today that India might be 1060 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: willing to go to zero tariffs for American goods. It 1061 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: seems to me that there is dual arguments here. One 1062 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: is you hear it from a lot of Trump people, Hey, 1063 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: we want to actually eliminate many of the tariffs and 1064 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: have more free trade. The other argument is we need 1065 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: to have more protectionist trade, potentially with China other countries. 1066 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: How do you analyze this, what should we do? And 1067 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,479 Speaker 1: bigger picture, how does it impact the big beautiful bill. 1068 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: I know that's a big question, but the tax cut 1069 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: bill that's currently making its way along with Order security 1070 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: through Congress right now. 1071 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 3: There's two camps on tariffs. They're all pro tariff in 1072 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,959 Speaker 3: the Trump administration, but two camps. One of the Neanderthal camp. 1073 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 3: The Neanderthal camp says that we keep tariffs on until 1074 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 3: there's no more trade deficits. Well, you think we're ever 1075 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 3: going to get to the point where Bangladesh buys as 1076 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 3: much from US as we fire from them? The same 1077 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 3: with Vietnam. We're a very very rich country. And part 1078 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 3: of a trade deficit is when you're richer, you buy 1079 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 3: more stuff from other people than they buy from you. 1080 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 3: So it's just that's a ridiculous, Neanderthal sort of argument. 1081 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 3: The other camp says, well, we want reciprocal agreements, we 1082 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,439 Speaker 3: want fairness, but we'll you know, we'd like to see 1083 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 3: lower tariffs. That's a more reasonable camp. And I've actually said, well, 1084 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm not for the tariffs, and I think tariffs from 1085 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 3: this guided. If Trump is able to use as a 1086 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 3: negotiating technique the ability of lower tariffs with India and 1087 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 3: they get to a much lower level than when we started, 1088 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 3: I'll be the first to compliment him on that. But 1089 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 3: realize that the tariff bill, or the sanctioned bill that 1090 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 3: Lindsay is proposing on Russia actually would tearif because India 1091 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 3: is an India and China are the two biggest purchasers 1092 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 3: of oil and gas from from Russia, and if you 1093 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 3: put a five hundred percent tariff, that's going the opposite way. 1094 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 3: So I don't think we're going to zero if we 1095 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 3: passed this new Russia sanction bill that puts a five 1096 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 3: hundred five hundred percent tariff is an embargo it's it's 1097 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 3: almost like a declaration of war basically, So it's a 1098 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 3: it's a really really, really foolish notion. But uh, if 1099 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 3: you know they come up with a deal with India, 1100 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 3: I will be the first to compliment the president and say, 1101 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 3: bay job, you know, if he gets if he gets 1102 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 3: lower tariffs, we'll see what happens. But I think that 1103 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 3: should be the goal really with every country, and I 1104 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 3: would say even including China, because I think the moment 1105 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 3: that we have no trade with China is the moment 1106 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 3: that they become less predictable and potentially more militaristic. 1107 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,439 Speaker 2: Senator one more for you. Only got about a minute, 1108 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: but I just wanted to hear you weigh in on 1109 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 2: this because I know government spending and are unsustainable. Data 1110 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 2: is someone been uh tough for the dog cuts. I'm 1111 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 2: hearing there's been some cuts actually made a lot of 1112 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 2: cuts advised. What do you think where are we on that? 1113 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 3: None of them actually count until they come back to Congress. 1114 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 3: So if you say you've cut spending, unless it's actually 1115 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 3: booked by Congress and Congress votes on it, it doesn't 1116 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 3: really it hasn't been transmitted or accounted for. There's supposedly 1117 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: a recision package. It can be voted on by a 1118 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 3: simple majority. That's coming back to us of only nine billion. 1119 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 3: That's a pittance. That's a rounding era. I'm for it, 1120 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 3: but I'll say send us more please. We'll see. But 1121 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 3: right now we've been hearing about that for two weeks 1122 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 3: and haven't seen that. And if that gets over here 1123 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 3: and the weak need Republicans won't go over that, then 1124 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 3: I say, Katie, bar the door. 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