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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace and absolutely beautiful young Minnesota

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Speaker 1: the earth. Where is Madeline? I'm Nancy Grace. This is

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at

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Speaker 1: Fox Nation in serious xem one eleven. First of all,

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Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at GMA.

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Speaker 2: The desperate search to find a missing Minnesota mom of

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Speaker 2: two who disappeared eight days ago.

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Speaker 1: Please help us find Madeline.

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Speaker 2: The children need their mother went on a Police officials

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Speaker 2: say twenty six year old Madeline Maddie Kingsbury's disappearance is

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Speaker 2: suspicious and they are worried for her safety.

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Speaker 3: Our department and our law enforcement partners are working relentlessly

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Speaker 3: to find Maddie. Maddie, who's last seen in the morning

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Speaker 3: of Friday, March thirty. First, Maddie and the father of

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Speaker 3: is very unlike her, and we are worried for her safety.

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Speaker 3: During the course of our investigation, we know that Maddy

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Speaker 3: returned to her residence at Carry Drive and went on

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Speaker 3: up around eight fifteen am on March thirty first. The

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Speaker 3: vehicle that Maddy normally drives is a twenty fourteen dark

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Speaker 1: There you know, when you don't know where to start

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Speaker 1: or what to do, just imagine put yourself in the

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Speaker 1: heard from Maddie. Who is Mattie. That's where you start

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Speaker 1: an investigation with your You are just hearing not only

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Speaker 1: our friends at GMA, but also Chief Tom Wilson of

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Speaker 1: the Wenona Police Department. But now take a listen to

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Speaker 1: what we know about who is Mattie.

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Speaker 4: On Mother's Day twenty twenty two, Madeline Kingsbury wrote on

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Speaker 4: Facebook quote being a mother has been my greatest adventure.

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Speaker 4: I could have sworn they were little, both newborns on

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Speaker 4: my chest yesterday. Happy Mother's Day to all you Mama

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Speaker 4: is out there. Madeline Kingsbury, known to her friends and

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Speaker 4: and Occupational medicine research at Mayo Clinic, with a demonstrated

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Speaker 4: history of working in human subjects research. Mattie attained her

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Speaker 4: a master's degree in public health from the University of

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Speaker 4: she was also looking for childcare providers with openings for

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Speaker 1: Wow, she didn't just fall off the turnip truck. Huh. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I got an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 1: what we know right now. But I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: first to a renowned psychiatrist joining us out of the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her at Angela Arnold MD

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Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Angie. Did you hear what our friends

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Speaker 1: at crime online dot com just said about Madeline Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: This woman, she's twenty six years old with two children,

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Speaker 5: Well, also, Nancy, let's point out that she has future plans.

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Speaker 5: She has future plans to get her MPH, her master's

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Speaker 5: Oftentimes you get that degree if you do want to

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Speaker 5: So this woman has some very some very big future

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Speaker 5: plans for herself. She's not a secretary, not that there's

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Speaker 5: You don't play around in academics. You don't not show

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Speaker 5: So I'm sure she had a schedule that she kept.

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Speaker 1: All Donia, you just says something really really important, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to follow it with Julie Gase, John Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and joining me from CBS there in Minnesota, WCC. I'm

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Speaker 1: getting right to you, and also with a special guest,

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Speaker 1: Meghan Kingsbury. This is Madeline's sister. Hold On just a second.

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Speaker 1: on her master's degree. Julie, I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: to find her because she must be a very highly

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Speaker 6: It seems like she's very detailed and schedule oriented. So

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Speaker 6: I do agree that, yeah, she's probably on a schedule

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Speaker 1: Okay, Julie Gates, you are an incredible forensic investigators. Investigator,

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Speaker 1: I don't need an echo chamber. I just said that.

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Speaker 1: finding a missing woman. We know her schedule. She's highly regimented.

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Speaker 1: It's not like she's just wandering around walking circles at

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Speaker 6: Nobody goes to victimology. I have to look at her victimology.

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Speaker 6: You know what, who she's with, what she's doing during

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Speaker 1: That man, you're not kidding. It kind of a it's

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Speaker 1: where to start. Time stories with Nancy Grace. Who is

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Speaker 1: have you heard from Mattie? And joining me right now?

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Speaker 1: Is that sister Megan Kingsbury. And you can find her

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Speaker 1: on Facebook finding Madeline Kingsbury and go fundme, Go fund

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Speaker 1: me the search for Mattie and there they spell it

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Speaker 1: M A D D I not Madeline Megan Kingsbury. First

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Speaker 1: I hardly know where to start, but you know what,

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Speaker 8: Madeline is a hard working and dedicated mother as well

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Speaker 8: She's grown into an impressive and beautiful young woman. Madeline

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Speaker 9: She's a mother, sister, and daughter, best friend, granddaughter, and

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Speaker 9: a niece. It's a long list. She's a young mother

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Speaker 1: Megan. First of all, tell me about your sister's children.

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Speaker 1: Her two babies. I believe they are. I guess they're

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Speaker 1: Tell me about her relationship with her children.

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Speaker 7: They were the light of her life. Constantly with them, constantly,

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Speaker 1: They must be surrounded by a lot of love right now, yes,

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Speaker 10: Since her first child was born, which is five years ago. Now,

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Speaker 10: She's just in constant communication with us about every minute detail.

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Speaker 10: She had sent me a text at about eight fifteen

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Speaker 1: You're hearing Madeline's sister Mega speaking to our friends at

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, we both start early in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Let me understand her schedule, Megan. With me is Megan Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: This is Madeline's sister, very very close relationship. You just

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Sometimes I think their father joined as well. I

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Speaker 1: the day that she went missing, who picked them up?

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Speaker 7: I did not?

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Speaker 1: Was that normal?

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Speaker 12: But no, I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I didn't get anything else.

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Speaker 1: And that was March thirty one, correct, Yes, okay, March

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Speaker 1: John Lordson. John, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 13: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, tell me about the area. Is this rural suburban.

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Speaker 13: Well, Wenona is home to Wenona State. It's a decent

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Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute, where is that as it relates

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Speaker 4: Are that?

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Speaker 13: Well, Minneapolis St.

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Speaker 13: This is a couple hours about two and a half

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Speaker 13: had a lot of searchers and volunteers coming from western

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Speaker 1: As part of Wanona in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 13: It is not, No, it's right across the border. Literally

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Speaker 13: right across the border.

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Speaker 1: Got it. Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. The terrain you're asking about is really mixed, and

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Speaker 13: it's a beautiful part of the state. Really, there's bluff

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Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like anything you just said.

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Speaker 1: You know what, when I hear the words John Lords

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Speaker 1: in beautiful terrain, you know that translates to me hard

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Speaker 1: to find, densely wooded forests, mountainous on dirt roads, very

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Speaker 1: low traverse areas. Is that what you're saying about beautiful

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Speaker 1: because that's really hard to find somebody.

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Speaker 13: And some person is Yeah, it's kind of an eclectic

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Speaker 13: he talked about that being a challenge. The hills, Yeah,

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Speaker 13: the steep terrain in some cases, and he did highlight

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Speaker 1: John Morrison, w CCA joining us, Thank you again for

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Speaker 1: making time for us. What's the population isn't it under

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand?

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Speaker 13: I believe it is. And where a lot of this

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Speaker 13: I had a coordinated search there as well, and I

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Speaker 13: want to say last week and it was nearly three

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Speaker 13: I've covered a few of these sadly over the years,

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Speaker 13: talking with people that didn't know Madeline but still coming

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Speaker 13: it might be. You have people from all over, as

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Speaker 1: Joining US Public Relationship Directory, Northstar International Search and Recovery, Tracy,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I know that that

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Speaker 1: that's going to be very difficult to find her. What

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Speaker 1: would you be doing right now, Tracy Campbell, Well, I saw.

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Speaker 11: The fields that they were searching, and a ligne search

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Speaker 1: First of all, tell everybody what is a line search

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Speaker 11: How they're walking straight in a line? So typically, first

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Speaker 11: You don't always know what a civilian will. So typically

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Speaker 1: And you know Megan Kingsbury joining us is Megan Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: Madeline sister. When what goes through your mind when you're

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Speaker 7: You know, I've been out searching myself in some more

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Speaker 7: it's it's hard to know where to start, and a

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Speaker 7: So it definitely worries me every day.

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Speaker 1: Would you go to bed at night, what are your

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Speaker 7: Just last night i was outside and I looked up

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Speaker 7: It's difficult. The longer that that this goes on.

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Speaker 1: Was there any history of just quote taking break or

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Speaker 13: No, not that we're aware of. I'm sure Meghan and

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Speaker 1: Megan, is there any such history?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean Kathleen Murphy joining me right now, courtroom,

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Speaker 1: Domestic Law dot com. Kathleen Murphy. It would be a

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Speaker 12: That's not happening, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not happening. This mom didn't go away for

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Speaker 12: But young babies, you're going to be in those hotspots.

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Speaker 1: At this point, Guys, you're hearing the voice of Kathleen Murphy,

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Speaker 1: I want you to hear more of what we know

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Speaker 10: There was some concern the evening of Friday, March thirty. First,

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Speaker 10: I guess you're right. She was supposed to come visit

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Speaker 10: had heard from her.

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Speaker 1: Megan Kingsbury is Madeline's sister, joining us shedding light into

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Speaker 1: the search for her sister. Megan, how far away from

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Speaker 1: Madeline do you live?

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Speaker 7: I live in the Minneapolis area, so it's about two hours.

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Speaker 1: From her home in Lenona. So to plan a trip,

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Speaker 1: this isn't like she's just going around the corner. This

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Speaker 1: was something she'd have to get the children ready in

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Speaker 1: the car, snacks, all that, and then drive two hours

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Speaker 1: to see you and your family. Correct, right, So that

446
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Speaker 1: was a plan. Interesting and no history at all of

447
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Speaker 1: just leaving to go for a girl's weekend or time alone.

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Speaker 1: Nothing like that, right, right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if she needed a break, she'd come to

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Speaker 7: my house, but she'd still bring the kids and you know,

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Speaker 7: we'd kind of tag team and watch them. But no,

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Speaker 7: she never would would leave them.

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Speaker 1: So that evening, your mother notices she hasn't heard from

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Speaker 1: your sister, And back to Kathleen Murphy joining US high

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Speaker 1: profile lawyer out of North Carolina. Kathleen, that's routine evidence.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean standard, typical pumdrum routine. I mean

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Speaker 1: evidence of someone's routine. And I'm stressing that again for

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Speaker 1: the third time because it's very important. By that evening,

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Speaker 1: when sister and mother have not heard from her, they

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Speaker 1: know something's up. Much less she didn't go to work

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Speaker 1: that day and she didn't pick the.

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Speaker 12: Children up and creating those timelines are going to be

463
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Speaker 12: so important to investigators, Nancy, the timeline from that family

464
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Speaker 12: is going to be key in placing the location of

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Speaker 12: Mattie and anybody else that could be associated.

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Speaker 11: With her disappearance.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 12: So, for example, if Mattie is going into work and

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Speaker 12: that's her routine immediately after dropping the children off, why

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Speaker 12: did she go home? Why did she go home? And

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Speaker 12: why was it ten o'clock when her husband or the

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Speaker 12: father of her children took that vehicle. Those are questions

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Speaker 12: that has to be answered.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct, and as a matter of fact, take

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Speaker 1: a listen to our friend Jacqueline Lee.

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Speaker 2: According to police, Mattie was last seen at home last

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Speaker 2: Friday at approximately eight fifteen in the morning after dropping

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Speaker 2: her two children off with their father at daycare.

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Speaker 1: The father told police he left.

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Speaker 2: Mattie's house at about ten am in her dark blue

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Speaker 2: Chrysler minivan. When he returned later that day, he says

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Speaker 2: she was not home. A minivan resembling hers was seen

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Speaker 2: that same morning driving along a nearby county road between

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Speaker 2: ten thirty am and one thirty pm. Investigators have searched

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Speaker 2: the minivan and Mattie's home. Inside the house, they found

486
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Speaker 2: her phone and her wallet.

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Speaker 1: I just was trying not to panic.

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Speaker 2: Mattie's sister Megan last texted her that morning and everything

489
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Speaker 2: seemed fine.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace take a listen to our

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Speaker 1: friend Jacqueline Lee.

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Speaker 2: According to police, Mattie was last seen at home last

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Speaker 2: Friday at approximately eight fifteen in the morning, after dropping

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Speaker 2: her two children off with their father at daycare. The

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Speaker 2: father told police he left Mattie's house at about ten

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Speaker 2: am in her dark blue Chrysler minivan. When he returned

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Speaker 2: later that day, he says she was not home. A

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Speaker 2: minivan resembling hers was seen that same morning driving along

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Speaker 2: a nearby county road between ten thirty am and one

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Speaker 2: thirty pm. Investigators have searched the minivan and Mattie's home.

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Speaker 2: Inside the house, they found her phone and her wallet.

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Speaker 1: I just was trying not to panic.

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Speaker 2: Mattie's sister, Megan last texted her that morning and everything

504
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Speaker 2: seemed fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go straight back out to our investigative reporter

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Speaker 1: John Lords and joining us WCCOTV there in Minnesota. Let

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Speaker 1: me understand what I just heard from our friends at

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Speaker 1: Gma Jacqueline Lee. Now that morning a fifteen, that's when

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Speaker 1: she's texting with her sister Megan. She and the bio

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Speaker 1: dad drop the children at daycare. He tells cops he

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Speaker 1: left Maddie's house about ten a m. For some reason

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Speaker 1: in her minivan. Okay, let me understand that was where

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Speaker 1: the decision was made that she'd not go to work,

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Speaker 1: because that's when she would go to work. I understand

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Speaker 1: between eight, you know, after she drops the children, But no,

516
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Speaker 1: did he bring her back to the house. Is that

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Speaker 1: what he's saying.

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Speaker 13: That's what we understand through law enforcement. That's what he

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Speaker 13: told them.

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Speaker 1: Then he takes the Chrysler and then when he comes

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Speaker 1: back with it, I don't know what to fill it with, gas.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he gets back at ten am and

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Speaker 1: she's not there. Is that correct?

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Speaker 13: He claims he laughed and came back and believe in

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Speaker 13: the afternoon and she was not there. Now, law enforcement

526
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Speaker 13: is telling us there's no evidence she was picked up

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Speaker 13: by anybody else, or that she might have just left

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Speaker 13: the home and walked somewhere. That's according to the Windowana

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Speaker 13: pleased you well?

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Speaker 1: Is that the terrain Megan Kingsbury would she just leave

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Speaker 1: and walk somewhere?

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Speaker 7: No, I mean where her house is kind of situated.

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Speaker 7: She's not really within walking distance of you know, like

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Speaker 7: a target or anything.

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Speaker 1: Does she walk, jog or bike anything like that?

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Speaker 7: You know, she used to jog. I think it's been

537
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Speaker 7: a while, but she did used to jog.

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Speaker 1: In the past, but not recently. No, I don't believe so,

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00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to figure out. We were covering

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Speaker 1: the case of Eliza Fletcher, a Memphis mom who was

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Speaker 1: at like four o'clock in the morning jogging. That was

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Speaker 1: her routine, you know, And a lot of terrains, like

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Speaker 1: you go out on the street, it's like I seventy five,

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Speaker 1: you can't walk or jog or bike there. Or it

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Speaker 1: could be a country road like Molly Tibbets where she

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Speaker 1: would run every day. So is a terrain near her?

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Speaker 1: Did she have a home apartment? Condo?

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Speaker 13: What?

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Speaker 7: They lived in? A town home? It was kind of

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Speaker 7: one of those divided in half one so they had

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Speaker 7: a connected neighbor.

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00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Okay, and the biodas living in the home. Correct, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so he leaves with the car. Yeah, you're right, You're right, lordson,

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Speaker 1: I had that ten thirty am in my head that

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Speaker 1: he came back, but her vehicle was side between ten

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Speaker 1: thirty and one thirty PM. That's where I'm getting ten

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Speaker 1: thirty Is that correct?

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Speaker 13: That is correct?

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00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Yes, who sided her vehicle?

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00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 13: That was spotted around town? I believe there's more than

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Speaker 13: one witness to that. And now what law enforcement was

562
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Speaker 13: trying to get people to do, and we've been down there,

563
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Speaker 13: is have people check that it's called the Highway of

564
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Speaker 13: forty three corridor. That's where that van has been spotted

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Speaker 13: or was spotted around that time.

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Speaker 1: Are a dark MENI van CHRYSTL or what is it?

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Speaker 1: A Chrysler PACIFICA town and country right, town and country?

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Speaker 1: Multiple signings of her van around town, But did anybody

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Speaker 1: say who was driving it?

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Speaker 13: Not that we have been told yet. And what they're

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Speaker 13: asking people to do is we've talked about the terrain

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Speaker 13: quite a bit and just that area it can get

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Speaker 13: rural pretty quick. So they're asking people to look at

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Speaker 13: their doorbell camera, see if they can see who is driving,

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Speaker 13: see if the van went by their home, trail cameras.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of you know, wooded areas. As we

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Speaker 13: talked about out there, people have trail cameras set up?

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Speaker 13: Did your trail camera catch this van on a roadway

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Speaker 13: when you're kind of having it going down a path

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Speaker 13: looking for wildlife? Was there a road behind there where

581
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Speaker 13: you saw the van going through? What time was it?

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Speaker 13: Can you see who was driving?

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Speaker 1: What about cameras in town? You said Highway forty three

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Speaker 1: corridor and when you said around town, what town Winona?

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Speaker 13: Yeah? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Aren't there red light cams and business cams.

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Speaker 13: Business cameras, surveillance camera, security cameras, whatever you got law

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Speaker 13: enforcement that wants to know about it?

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Speaker 1: Well, aren't they getting it? Aren't they confiscating it from

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Speaker 1: businesses and red lights? Before? Does nobody remember Chandra Levy? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and her apartment complex before she went out and was

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Speaker 1: attacked and murdered. Every seventy two hours they roll over

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Speaker 1: the table, it starts over. You got to get it

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Speaker 1: immediately before it starts rolling over.

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Speaker 13: And they might have some already they just have not disclosed.

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Speaker 13: I think Megan talked about that earlier. Is you know

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Speaker 13: the investigation they're being they're keeping it very close to

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Speaker 13: their best, but yeah, they're definitely asking for anybody else

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Speaker 13: that had maybe something out there that wasn't so obvious.

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Speaker 13: The businesses are one thing, and the homes near there

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Speaker 13: is another. But in some of these rural areas around

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Speaker 13: that top line and around that vicinity, if they had

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Speaker 13: a trail camera, if they had a doorbell camera, if

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Speaker 13: they had a security camera, did you see this van

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Speaker 13: go buying? Can you tell who was driving? And they

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Speaker 13: want that.

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Speaker 1: John Laws, and you're telling me people in the town

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Speaker 1: of Winona, I think they saw not just a blue

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Speaker 1: town and country her blue town and country. Is that

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Speaker 1: what they think that?

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Speaker 13: That's the law enforcement that told us they believe that van.

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Speaker 13: More than one person saw that van driving in that timeframe.

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Speaker 1: We talked about what was distinct about her vangan, what

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Speaker 1: if anything is to stink John, anybody jump in and

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Speaker 1: tell me? Well?

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Speaker 13: And the fact that it was a Town and Country

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Speaker 13: Chrysler van, And honestly, Nancy, I don't know how popular

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Speaker 13: those are in Wenona, Minnesota. But that's in that time

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Speaker 13: frame that van was spotted. Uh, And that's an excellent question.

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Speaker 13: Is that van? Do we know if that was hers?

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Speaker 13: For sure? I'm guessing what law enforcement says it is.

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Speaker 1: Megan Casebury, what about it? What about her van?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 10: They have.

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Speaker 7: The law enforcement has some footage from a gas station

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Speaker 7: in Rushford, Minnesota. I believe it was a quick trip

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Speaker 7: of the van coming and going, so I know for

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Speaker 7: sure they've they've seen it in Rushford. Other than that,

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Speaker 7: I haven't heard if there's been any other footage. I

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Speaker 7: know they're looking at semi trucks. Those have cameras kind

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Speaker 7: of all around. They're they're really trying any avenue to

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Speaker 7: see if they can get footage.

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Speaker 1: Where's Rushford as it relates to Anona close? Yeah, twenty

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Speaker 1: mins that would make And what time of the day

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Speaker 1: was her van spotted in Rushford?

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Speaker 7: I want to stay probably between like ten thirty and

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Speaker 7: eleven is.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I believe you're right on that. I think it

639
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 13: was in the morning, still before the new Homer that

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Speaker 13: that was spotted.

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Speaker 1: But what time does Biodet say he brought the car back?

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Speaker 7: I believe that he said he returned home around one pm,

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Speaker 7: so that could have been him driving around. That doesn't

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Speaker 7: really help us, does it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, where is the vehicle right now?

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Speaker 13: John Lawrenson, law enforcement has searched that vehicle. I do

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Speaker 13: not know if they gave that back to the family.

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Speaker 7: Do you know, Megan, I believe law enforcement still has

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Speaker 7: the vehicle, still.

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Speaker 1: Has the vehicle? Okay. To Julie Yate joining us a

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Speaker 1: crime scene investigator and instructor, Julie, what do you make

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Speaker 1: of this regarding them still having the vehicle?

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Speaker 6: I would they still had the vehicle in their possession

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Speaker 6: because that is one of the key pieces of evidence.

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Speaker 6: I would say right now.

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Speaker 1: To Tracy Campbell joining us with North st Our International

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Speaker 1: Search and Recovery, I believe that the vehicle, especially why

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Speaker 1: the fact that law enforcement is still holding onto it

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Speaker 1: must have some sort of forensic evidence in it. I agree, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, what do we do now?

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Speaker 12: I think we take an inventory of what's in there.

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Speaker 12: I also, Nancy, have a question about whether or not

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Speaker 12: a search warrant has been effectuated for the home that

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Speaker 12: they were living in. And another question that we have

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Speaker 12: is whether or not Madeline was looking for another place

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Speaker 12: to live. I saw on her Facebook page that she

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Speaker 12: had posted that she was looking for a new place

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Speaker 12: to live in aple.

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Speaker 1: Or May to MEGANE. Kingsbury, your sister posted that is

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Speaker 1: that correct that she was looking for a new place

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Speaker 1: to live?

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's correct. Why her and the father of the

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Speaker 7: children were not continuing their relationships.

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Speaker 1: They were splitting.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so she was looking for a new place close

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Speaker 7: to where she already lived, close to the daycare, close

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Speaker 7: to the preschool. I know she was looking over in Goodview,

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Speaker 7: which is the next town over.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, she was looking for a new place, Nancy.

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Speaker 14: If I could jump in for just a moment, this

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Speaker 14: is John Lemley in the Crime Online news room. We're

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Speaker 14: now learning that a special prosecutor has been hired by

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Speaker 14: Wenona County law enforcement to assist in the search for

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Speaker 14: Madeline Kingsbury. Madeleine's sister has revealed that Philip Prokopovich is

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Speaker 14: currently collaborating with law enforcement about Madeleine's disappearance and he'll

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Speaker 14: help if charges are brought against anyone. Prokopovich served as

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Speaker 14: Dakota County's previous Chief Deputy County Attorney.

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Speaker 1: Guys, the family of Malan Kingsbury has now issued a

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars reward thousand dollar reward tip line five

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Speaker 1: zero seven four five seven six two eight eight repeat

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Speaker 1: five zero seven four five seven six two eight eight

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Speaker 1: Please help us find Madeline. Goodbye, friend,