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Speaker 1: another vacation week, so we figured this is another great

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Speaker 1: This is going to be part one of Joe and

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Speaker 1: I's discussion of Highlander to the Quickening. I think if

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Speaker 1: This episode originally published four twenty seven, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive right in.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I am Joe McCormick, and today on Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited because we're going to be talking

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Speaker 3: Highlander to the Quickening, starring Christoph Lambert, Sean Connery, Virginia Madsen,

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Speaker 3: and Michael Ironside. This is the weird, dank, detested sequel

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Speaker 1: Now, some of our longtime listeners might say, whoa, wha, whoa.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you guys already cover Highlander two? We have not

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Speaker 1: covered it for Weird House Cinema. We did a pre

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Speaker 3: I think we ended up talking about some of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So we'll probably do less of that in

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Speaker 3: We don't usually do that on Weird House. We did

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Speaker 3: two as well. It'll make more sense once we start talking. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: So Highlander two is a movie that I have seen

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Speaker 3: Going back to my high school years. This was a

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Speaker 3: Roger Ebert said in his review, Highlander two is a

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Speaker 1: plenty to love in Highlander one.

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Speaker 3: There clearly is, though I would say I would suspect

432
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: that would be a surprising experience because you see a

433
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 3: trailer for Highlander two, it's just full of like Blade

434
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: runnery sci fi weirdness, you know, porcupine headed guys flying

435
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: around on rocket boots with swords and all that, and

436
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: then you rent Highlander and you're like, where are the

437
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: rocket boots? There's nothing sci fi in it.

438
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Speaker 1: I vaguely remember being kind of maybe not disappointed, but

439
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: just kind of like, Oh, I really thought there was

440
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: gonna be future stuff in this and there's not. But

441
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: it was still still amazing. And for various reasons, I

442
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: think possibly because I didn't know it at the time,

443
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: but I had already been introduced to the work of

444
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: this director due to his work in music videos.

445
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 3: Ooh, he's got some really good music videos in the

446
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: wizard bag here, doesn't he. But to come back to

447
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: the leap from Highlander one to Highlander two again for

448
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: reasons related to difficulties with the production and all that

449
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 3: and problems with the script. Yes, the movie is ridiculous

450
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: and it is silly, but I respect the choices. I

451
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 3: respect them going in a different direction with it. I

452
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: like the switch to sci fi. I think that's a

453
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: great idea and it could have worked. It could have

454
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Speaker 3: been not just like a great bad movie. It could

455
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: have been a great good movie, you know, if realized

456
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: a little bit different. And so there's actually a quote

457
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: I came across that was in that video Watchdog article

458
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: from Russell mulcahy, the director, and he's talking about these

459
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: movies and he says, quote, all I can remember about

460
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: the original Highlander is lots of guys in various eras

461
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: bashing swords about That worked the first time, but Highlander

462
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: two has to transcend that with more originality and the

463
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: ability to turn unknown corners. And you know what, that

464
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: is exactly what we got there is more originality. It

465
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 3: definitely turns unknown corners and respect for trying.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only way to do a sequel

467
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: to a movie that wrapped everything up, you know, And

468
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: I think it really isn't that all an unexpected direction

469
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: to go in, because I want to point to two things.

470
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: First of all, again, the first movie ends with our

471
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: man becoming Prince of the Earth with psychic powers, and

472
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: you know he's going to start bringing people together. He's

473
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: like a messiah figure. And the Queen song, and I

474
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: do believe that all of the Queen songs on the

475
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: soundtrack for Highlander are cannon and arked to understanding the film.

476
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: We have those lyrics here we are born to be Kings,

477
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: were the princes of the universe. So Highlander two is

478
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: the natural extrapolation of those lyrics, well said, all right,

479
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: do you have an elevator pitches? An elevator pitch even necessary?

480
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: At this point, I got one for you. Okay. So

481
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: the formerly immortal head chopper Connor MacLeod is now mortal

482
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: because he has chopped all the other immortals and now

483
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: he is old. An ancient enemy from another planet sends

484
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: more immortals to Earth, thus making Connor young and strapping again.

485
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: For some reason, Connor must fight this ancient enemy, who,

486
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: for some reason also comes to Earth himself. He must

487
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: also destroy a geoengineering project that he invented decades before,

488
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 3: because it sucks and is no longer necessary. Also, various

489
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 3: people travel across space and time and come back from

490
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: the dead and experience the year twenty twenty four? Can

491
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: I get that in a robot voice?

492
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: The year twenty twenty four? All right, let's go ahead

493
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: and have a taste of that original theatrical trailer for

494
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: Highland or to the Quickening.

495
00:27:46,440 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: Greeting Chila, that's some fun. In all, there's centuries long burst.

496
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: Then nothing could have prepared them for lug quickening. Christopher

497
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: Lambert Sean Connery, Highlander two lugged quickening.

498
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: All right. Now, normally this is where we tell you

499
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: exactly where to go see it, but as we've already

500
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: discussed it's it's a bit difficult in terms of the

501
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: original theatrical cut. We had to depend on on like

502
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: YouTube for it, and I think in the past we

503
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Speaker 1: had to depend on a VHS tape. I know that's

504
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: how I originally saw it.

505
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: I've got the VHS tape of Highlander to the Quickening,

506
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: so I have the means to view the correct cut

507
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: myself if I had a functioning VCR right now.

508
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: And there are tons of there are various threads online

509
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: with people discussing the different cuts where to find them.

510
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm to understand that the French DVD is mostly the

511
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Zeice cut. There was also recently some excitement over the

512
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: fact that a British Amazon Prime stream of the film

513
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: appeared to be and I'm not certain on this either

514
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: the Zeice cut, the theatrical cut, or something close to

515
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: it fitting the UK audience.

516
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: I think it is so looking at that you can

517
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: only judge by like the run times unless you're actually

518
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: going to watch the whole thing. But I think that

519
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: version on Amazon was the British cut, which is different

520
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: than what we're calling the Zeice cut, but does also

521
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: have Zeist. They don't take out Zeis. That's the renegade

522
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: cut that does that, but the British cut adds in

523
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: the x it re edits. The film adds in the

524
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: extra stuff about Connor's wife dying in the past, adds

525
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: in a few other character moments, and has the so

526
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: called fairy tale ending where Connor MacLeod and Virginia mads

527
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: and fly away into space and go to the planet Zeist.

528
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: There are also plenty of f edits, with people putting

529
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: together recutting the film to create like the ultimate Zeist

530
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: cut and so forth. I saw one person who apparently

531
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: had put together a Queen cut where and kudos to

532
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: this individual, because I very much agree there is not

533
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: enough queen music in this movie, and this person felt

534
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: the same, so they added queen music to it. So

535
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff like that. I can't speak

536
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: to its actual quality because I haven't looked at it.

537
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: In My advice would be kind of weird on this,

538
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: because not everyone needs to see this movie more than

539
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: once to scratch that itch. But if you would all

540
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: think you might need to, or you have any nostalgia

541
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: for the film, I would recommend like rewatching the theatrical

542
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: cut in whatever quality you can get, and it's not

543
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: going to be great, and then potentially grab that renegade

544
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: cut to rewatch your favorite scenes or particular scenes in

545
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: a superior picture quality. Because we'll discuss like, there are

546
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: plenty of scenes in this film that look amazing. There's

547
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: some great sets, great costume and great lighting, and it

548
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: is a shame that we can't watch that theatrical cut

549
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: with the best possible picture quality.

550
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: It's funny how some of the best looking stuff in

551
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: the movie is kind of incidental to the story, Like

552
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: the opera scene where Connor goes and watches Wagner is.

553
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: The sets on the set within the movie are amazing.

554
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: They look really cool, and the opera house is beautiful,

555
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: and there are some of like there are clearly lots

556
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: of indoor sets of streets that they created for Life

557
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: under the Shield where they're in a sound stage where

558
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: they were shooting in Argentina, and there's like streets with

559
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: storefronts and all that that are You could argue about

560
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: how effective they are as sets like that there they

561
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: look They're very dimly lit, so you don't see a

562
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: lot of detail, but they do create I think, the

563
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: right kind of moody atmosphere that the movie was going for.

564
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: There are other sets that feel a little more confusing,

565
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: because it's like you'll be on the planet Zeist, but

566
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: you appear to be in like an off Yeah.

567
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Or there's that dungeon scene where General Katana strangles an.

568
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: Eel and that's what I was thinking of.

569
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, was that an office?

570
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what that room is.

571
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Whatever it was, it felt suitably alien. And that's one

572
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: that I had to go back and watch again on

573
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: the Renegade cut, just to see all those like all

574
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: that glorious glistening, you know, blackness in a superior picture quality.

575
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: Oh, in all the executives' offices in the Shield Corporation building. Bands, Yes,

576
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: it'd be way too dark to read in this room.

577
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't know why anybody would work in there, Like

578
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: just super dark rooms with like the only light source

579
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: being a window through which moonlight is shining and there

580
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: are giant fan blades cutting in front of it constantly,

581
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 3: so it's just like an intermittent light source.

582
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Russell McKay likes his fan blades. There there's more

583
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: than there are at least two major scenes in this

584
00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: that have big, big rotating fan blades. All right, Well,

585
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: since we're already talking about him, Yeah, let's get into

586
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: the connections here, starting with the director, Russell Makay born

587
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty three, Australian director who initially made his name

588
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: directing some of the and most and I'm not over

589
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating here some of the most iconic music

590
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: videos of the nineteen eighties. Like if you were watching

591
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: MTV and then later vh one during like the eighties

592
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and nineties, you saw so much of this band's work.

593
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking some of the weirdest, most stylish examples of

594
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: music video artistry, such as Duran Durand's Wild Boys amazing track,

595
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Amazing video. This is the one that has post apocalyptic windmills,

596
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, Simon Labon strapped to one of them, and

597
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: like strange tribes of lads running around and android heads

598
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: and so forth.

599
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: Almost seems an inspiration for the war Boys in Mad

600
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: Max Fury Road.

601
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, similar vibes, And there are a number of

602
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: direct connections between Wild Boys and Hylander two, another big one,

603
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: super weird, super stylish Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart.

604
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: I defy you to follow the plot of that music video,

605
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: but it's so gorgeous to watch.

606
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: You might not understand it, but you will feel it.

607
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget nineteen seventy nine's video Killed the Radio Star,

608
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: the first music video ever played on MTV. And I

609
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: didn't realize this until I was just researching it yesterday.

610
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: But Hans Zimmer is in that music video. He's playing

611
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: the keyboard. Huh yeah, idea Hans Zimmer of Doune Fame

612
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: and so many other films, so Russell McKay plenty. I'm

613
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: not even I'm barely scratching the surface on all the

614
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: artists that he worked with, some of the biggest music

615
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: artists of the day. His first film, however, was the

616
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four Australian killer pig movie Razorback.

617
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: I've seen this one. Did you watch this rope?

618
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: I have not seen Razorback.

619
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Speaker 3: Razorback. I sort of hesitate to recommend it just because

620
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: it is texturally gross, like it's a cross between Jaws,

621
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: but with a pig instead of a shark, and an

622
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 3: Australian version of the Texas Chainsaw Massacres. So you're dealing

623
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: with just like disgusting sort of outback hillbillies who work

624
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: in a dog food factory, and so there's like gross

625
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: gore stuff at the dog food factory, you know, that

626
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: tcum kind of kind of slop. But also I remember

627
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: some elements of the movie, apart from just the general grossness,

628
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: being really compellingly funny.

629
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Speaker 1: I mean, there is often a sense of humor that

630
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: sprinkled in there somewhere.

631
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right.

632
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: So anyway, he followed up Razorback with Highlander in eighty six,

633
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: and he's continuing to do like high end music videos

634
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: the whole time, and then follows Highlander up in nineteen

635
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: ninety one with its sequel Highlander two. Now afterwards, Okay,

636
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: continue to direct TV and film through pretty much today.

637
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: Recent credit was twenty twenty three's teen Wolf, the movie

638
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: spinning off from the TV series Teen Wolf that he

639
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: directed forty episodes of. So he's remained highly prolific and

640
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: I've read no indication that he's done. Other credits of

641
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: note include nineteen ninety four as the Shadow.

642
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: Oh is that the one with Alec Baldwin as the shadow.

643
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: YEP, that's it, which I haven't seen since the since

644
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: it came out. I remember it being I remember finding

645
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: it enthralling, but also kind of lackluster in some respects,

646
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I haven't revisited it. He did

647
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: four episodes of Tales from the Crypt, including The Excellent

648
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: People Who Live in brass Hearses, starring Bill Paxton, Brad Doriff,

649
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: and Michael Lerner. You know, it's pretty much your standard

650
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: Tales from the Crypt in many ways. You know, awful

651
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: things happen to awful people, but with a cast like

652
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: that and with a solid director, you're good to go.

653
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: He also did the nineteen ninety nine seven inspired This

654
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: is the Movie seven, often with the numeral seven in

655
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: the middle, so I guess you could technically pronounce it

656
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: seven seven inspired Resurrection. This starred Christoph Limbert and also

657
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: featured David Cronenberg in a small role.

658
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 3: I always love it when he shows up in the cast.

659
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

661
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: This was a kind of again very seventy of kind

662
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: of a flick, you know, had that kind of grungey, grimy,

663
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: semi sort of ninety sleezy quality to it. About a

664
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: serial murder trying to build a body for the Second

665
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: Coming of Christ.

666
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: Oh okay, cool, Yeah, it sounds about right for a

667
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: movie inspired by seven.

668
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Then yeah, oh, and then you know. He also did

669
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven's Resident Evil Extinction, which I haven't

670
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: watched in full. I think I started watching at one

671
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: point and didn't finish it, but I will say that

672
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: it is easily the most visually appealing of the Resident

673
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Evil films.

674
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: I tried one or two of the Resident Evil movies

675
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: and I never could get into them. I've liked a

676
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: couple of the games, though, I feel like the games

677
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: really feel like they would adapt well into movies and

678
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: it just doesn't translate for some reason.

679
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed the most recent Resident Evil game.

680
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: Now, this is in no way a knock on Russell

681
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Mulkahee at all, but in thinking about his relationship to

682
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: the creative material here, it feels significant and correct to

683
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: me that he did not like write the script for

684
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Highlander or Highlander Too. This is not like his story,

685
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 3: his narrative passion project that he's bringing to the screen.

686
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: He is a professional director, and he's realizing a story

687
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: that came from somewhere else. Does that feel right to you?

688
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I believe so. I mean it varies from

689
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: director to director, right, I mean exactly how much they

690
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: are ultimately impacting or influencing the shape of the story

691
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: and characterizations on screen. But yeah, he does not have

692
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: a writing credit on this film or the first film,

693
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: no official writing credit anyway.

694
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: Though clearly does have creative influence and has some sense

695
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: of ownership over the career direction. Because again, as we

696
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: saw on that quote he said earlier like he felt

697
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: like Highlander two had to go in a different direction,

698
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: had to turn those unknown corners.

699
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk about the folks who are credited

700
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: on Highlander two, and it's kind of telling. So first

701
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: of all, we have a character credit for Gregory Widen

702
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: born nineteen fifty eight. This is the American screenwriter who

703
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: wrote the screenplay for the original Highlander, initially as a

704
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: class assignment in the writing program at UCLA. So basically

705
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: the idea is, you know, he wrote it for class,

706
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: his instructors and other folks encouraged him on the project

707
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: and said, hey, you should fix us up a bet

708
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: and start submitting it places, and so eventually it salve

709
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: the Light of Day with some other writers involved as Highlander.

710
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Subsequent credits included nineteen ninety one's Back Draft, nineteen ninety

711
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: five's The Prophecy, This is the Angel movie with Christopher

712
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: Walkin in it, which I'm very tempted to revisit on

713
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Weird House, and yeah, yeah, he also directed that one,

714
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: and he also wrote twenty seventeen's Other Life.

715
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: You know, thinking about him writing both Highlander and The Prophecy,

716
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: it seems that he's got an attraction to the idea

717
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: of these like outsider beings who have special powers and

718
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: knowledge but sort of are limited in their interactions with

719
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: the human world and must sort of wander among us,

720
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 3: and I don't know, exploring themes of alienation in some way,

721
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: people living among us with like special abilities and special

722
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: destiny but not really being able to be a part

723
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: of us.

724
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. And there are number of

725
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: things you can compare on the Prophecy films and the

726
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: Highlander franchise, you know, right down to if I remember correctly,

727
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: you have to kill the angels in a special way.

728
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: They only died to like rip their heart out or something.

729
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: It's been a while, could have that wrong.

730
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I like how he got to

731
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: do a movie with both Christoff Lambert and Christoff Walkong.

732
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: Now the story credit. One of the story credits here

733
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: on Highlander two goes to Brian Clemens, who lived nineteen

734
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: thirty one through twenty fifteen. British screenwriter and producer, with

735
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: credits going back to the late nineteen fifties. He did

736
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: a lot of great TV work, including thirty two episodes

737
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: of the Avengers. He also worked on a number of

738
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies horror films, including Robert Foist's and Soon the

739
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Darkness in nineteen seventy See No Evil and the sex

740
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: Flipping Doctor Jekyl and Sister Hide. Both of these last

741
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: two were seventy one. He also worked on seventy threes,

742
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: The Golden Voyage of Sinbad in nineteen seventy four's Captain

743
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: Cronos Vampire Hunter. We can also go ahead and throw

744
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: in Walt Disney's nineteen eighty chiller Watcher in the Woods.

745
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: So a very established name here, at least in TV

746
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: and B cinema of the sixties and seventies.

747
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a lot of good titles in there, man,

748
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: The Golden Voyage of Sinbad is fun.

749
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely, that's an all timer.

750
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: That's got some really fantastic Ray Harry Housen stop motion

751
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: monsters in it.

752
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: All right. We also have William In Panser credited with

753
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: a story credit. He is also one of the producers,

754
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: so yes, we have a producer in the story credits here,

755
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: which is sometimes something to give you pause. I'm not

756
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: saying all producers that have story credits or writing credits

757
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: are overreaching, but I think at the very least you

758
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: have to wonder if that is the case when you

759
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: encounter it. And this is certainly a film where there

760
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: are stories about producers becoming involved and so forth in

761
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: troubled production.

762
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to know more about the troubled production,

763
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: there's plenty you can read online about that. But famously

764
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: it was shot in Argentina, I think for financial reasons,

765
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 3: and there was some various changing of hands of creative

766
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: control over the movie and what official what cut was

767
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: eventually released.

768
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: So Panzer lived nineteen forty two through two thousand and seven.

769
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: He was mostly a producer with hands and everything Highlander,

770
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: so like he was definitely like one of the helmsmen

771
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: of the Highlander franchise, and he has story credits on

772
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: the third film and the fourth film. In addition, his

773
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: only other writing credit is for nineteen seventy nine Steel,

774
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: which he also produced. And then, finally, on the writing

775
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: side of things, we have Peter Bellwood on the screenplay.

776
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Bellwood also worked on the screenplay for Highlander, having previously

777
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: written on nineteen eighty's Phobia in nineteen eighty one's Saint Helen's.

778
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: Now, I think it's time we get into the cast

779
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: because there are some wonderfully charming actors in this movie,

780
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: even if they don't always seem like they really understand

781
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: what's supposed to be going on in the scene or not.

782
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: But right at the top of the cast list here

783
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: Highlander two has the same star as the original Highlander,

784
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: which is Christoph Lambert as I've been calling him. That

785
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: is the sort of the French pronunciation of his name,

786
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: But it's okay if you call in Christopher Lambert. He

787
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: said that in interviews he doesn't mind the American pronunciation either.

788
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's how I always thought it was

789
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: pronounce when I was a kid. It's like a Christopher

790
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: Lambert's great I want to see more Christopher Lambert films.

791
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sort of half joking when I call

792
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: him Christof Lambert, even though I guess that is what

793
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: they call him at home.

794
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. So born nineteen fifty seven, actually us born technically

795
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: a French actor seen here playing a Scottish man whose

796
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: credits in French cinema go back to nineteen seventy nine,

797
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: but his first big international break came with the Academy

798
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: Award winning nineteen eighty four Tarzan movie Gray Stoke, The

799
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes. This, of course,

800
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: we previously mentioned this in our Dragon Slayer episode because

801
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: it co starred Sir Ralph Richardson, among others, several among

802
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: several other.

803
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: Big names, Ian Holmes in that too.

804
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's got a great cast. I've never seen it,

805
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: but it was highly thought of, at least at the time.

806
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: This is one of those I caught parts of on

807
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: TV back in the day, but.

808
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: It was apparently this role as Tarzan. You know, his

809
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: unique look and I think ultimately his just natural ability

810
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: to play this sort of outsider character, like a charming like.

811
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: It's weird that he hasn't played a vampire, right because

812
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: all these things we're talking about with Christopher Lumbert. These

813
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: are the qualities of casting a great vampire as well,

814
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: like slightly aloof a little bit weird, but also very

815
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: very handsome and charming and charismatic.

816
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: There's a very strange duality to Limbert and the way

817
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 3: he specifically in the way he plays the Connor McCloud role,

818
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: which is that he alternates between being very kind of

819
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: sad and dough wide, having this kind of you know, tearful,

820
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: herbivorous sort of demeanor, and then shifting out of that

821
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 3: into a a twinkle of the eye, wise cracking gunna

822
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 3: get who just reacts to everything with a joke, saying

823
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: like something like.

824
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: That, Oh yeah, his little laugh is wonderful, creepy, almost

825
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Peter Laurie esque laugh. Yes, I love it, you get

826
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: it in most of his roles, And I think it's

827
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of key to like the energy of Lambert,

828
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: because I feel like everything he's in he feels at

829
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: least slightly miscast, in part because he, like his co

830
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: star here, is not exactly known for his chameleon likability

831
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: to take on different accents and nationalities and his performances,

832
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, He's always Christoph Lambert, always a bit weird,

833
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: always feels a bit like an odd character actor who

834
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: just somehow came out a little too handsome to play anything,

835
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: but leads.

836
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: I like that.

837
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And like I said, I see this energy

838
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: in most of the films that come to mind, like

839
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: just to name a few here. In nineteen eighty seven's

840
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: The Sicilian he plays an Italian mobster perfect. In nineteen

841
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: ninety two's Night Moves that's spelled like night like an Armor,

842
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: he plays a womanizing I think American chess master Oki Doki.

843
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety five's Mortal Kombat, he plays a fictionalized, highly

844
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: fictionalized Japanese thunder god.

845
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: Wait, is he supposed to be a Japanese thunder god?

846
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: He plays Raiden? Right? Does that right? He's in origin.

847
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: Rayden is loosely related to an actual thunder deity in

848
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: Japanese mythology. But I didn't know that heavy emphasis on

849
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: the loosely here because we're talking about Mortal Kombat.

850
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: I just assumed invented for the Mortal Kombat mythoughs. So yeah,

851
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: a resident of outworld or maybe beyond out world.

852
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh, he's a god of Earth.

853
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an earth guy. Okay, I apologize, but he

854
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: he's so Mortal Kombat. The nineteen nineties Mortal Kombat is

855
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: also really funny to go back and watch. I think

856
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: maybe we could do that on Weird House one day.

857
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: But Lambert and it is just perfect. He's like a

858
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: he's got an attitude, you know, he's got that nineties

859
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: movie attitude. So like the bad guy comes and does

860
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: something and he suddenly the camera cuts to him sitting

861
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: there and he wags a finger and little like lightning

862
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 3: bolts come out of it and goes, heck, I don't think.

863
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: So let's see nineteen ninety nine's Beowolf as some sort

864
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: of a futuristic Beowolf, a film that's a movie. I

865
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: can never make it through this one because the sort

866
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: of like the futuristic, grungy aspect of it, like some

867
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: sort of like futuristic medieval sci fi that always draws

868
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: me in. And then I get to the part with

869
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: the CGI and it's just like truly terrible CGI.

870
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 3: It's that it's the worst of that, like nineteen ninety

871
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 3: nine CGI. It's really bad. The Grendel Monster, I recall,

872
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: looks terrible. The Grendel's Yeah, it's it's it's very dark

873
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: and confusing, and nothing much happens in it from what

874
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: I recall. But it's been a long time.

875
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, box Art is promising, but it does not meet expectations.

876
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: Let's see, in two thousand and one's Druids he plays

877
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: a gol and he also plays the President of the

878
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: United States in twenty thirteen's action Nosferatu spy movie Bloodshot.

879
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: This one also has Brad Dorif in it. I think

880
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: we've looked at this one before, but are not brave

881
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: enough to actually check it out. Doesn't he play?

882
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: Does he play like a film director or something? In

883
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: Hail Caesar?

884
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: He does? Yeah, I mean there are some other credits

885
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: of note. Twenty sixteens Hail Caesar Coen Brothers film. There's

886
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: a two part sci fi franchise, Fortress that a lot

887
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: of people like. Two was the originally NATed A two

888
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: thousand sequel, and then, of course, as we mentioned earlier,

889
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: he's in Resurrection playing the cop in this seven esque film.

890
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: I gotta see some more of these B movie outings

891
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: by Lambert, so let's see. I don't know if I

892
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: could try to watch the Beol Wolf Again, Druids is

893
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 3: more of like a historical drama.

894
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't and I don't have a good read

895
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: on that one. If it's at all fun or indeed great,

896
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: I just don't know much about it. And Bloodshot, ooh,

897
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just not I don't know if

898
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: i'm it's got to be a special. We have not

899
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: watched a film from the twenty teens the Weird House,

900
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: and I think there are reasons for that. I don't

901
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: think Bloodshot is going to be our first selection from

902
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: that decade.

903
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay, well, anyway, My short review on Lambert in Highlander

904
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: two is he has some surprisingly the poignant moments of

905
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: acting that don't really fit in with how hilarious the

906
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: rest of the movie is like, but there are moments

907
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: where you really get that dough eyed sadness coming through.

908
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 3: You feel for him, You feel the pain of his

909
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: immortality and now the immortality being lost, that he's just

910
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 3: sort of decaying physically while being emotionally alone, and it

911
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: really is kind of sad. But also he does the

912
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 3: wise cracking attitude raid and things saying little like ridiculous

913
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: one liners. You can't believe the lines he says.

914
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh, everybody, all the immortals in this film are just

915
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: here for a good time and just cutting up like crazy.

916
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: General Katana has all sorts of laughs. The assassins, the

917
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: bird guys also are real cut ups. Yeah, there's just

918
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: there's really too much of it.

919
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: Oh and of course, how lest we forget one of

920
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: the greatest of the wise crackers, Ramirez.

921
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: That's right, played by the great Sean Connery. I lived

922
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty through twenty twenty, very Scottish actor. Obviously, there's

923
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: a lot to discuss with Sean Connery's career, very long career,

924
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, one of one of the most famous actors

925
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: of his generation. But I will say there was an

926
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: old Mystery Science Theater three thousand sketch that had Mike

927
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: in the Bots plot the careers of Sean Connery and

928
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: his brother Neil Connery in response to the nineteen sixty

929
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: seven Italian bond ripoff OK Connery aka Operation Kid Brother

930
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: that they were watching on the show. So they have

931
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: like the line graphs of the ups and downs of

932
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: their careers. And the big gag was that Highlander two

933
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: is the only point at which Shawn's career trajectory dips

934
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: below Neil's and I think you know, I was looking

935
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: at Sean Connery's filmography in full here, and you can

936
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: kind of look at it in terms of pre and

937
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: post Highlander two. Though to be fair, it's a very

938
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: long career with various shifts and changes.

939
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: I have seen him in movies that I enjoy far,

940
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: far less than I enjoy Highlander two. He's the like

941
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 3: get second billing is the voice of the dragon in Dragonheart,

942
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: to the movie that I was getting confused with Dragon

943
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: Slayer when we were doing Dragon Slayer on the show.

944
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 3: I saw that in the theater as a kid. I mean,

945
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it recently, but I recall that being

946
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: just a mess and Highlander two is so much a

947
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: much better use of your time than watching Dragonheart.

948
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dragonhart was a ninety six film that was post

949
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: Highlander two. And indeed you look at some of the

950
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: other posts Highlander two films and then include well, there

951
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: was Robin Hood Prince with Thieves the same year. He

952
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: has an uncredited cameo in that. But then it's stuff

953
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 1: like ninety two's Medicine Man, ninety three's Rising Sun, ninety

954
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: five's First Night the Rock in ninety six, The Avengers

955
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: in ninety nine, and I'm sorry, The Avengers in ninety eight,

956
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: and Trapman in ninety nine, Finding Forrester in two thousand

957
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: and then finally two thousand and threes, The Leave Extraordinary, Gentleman.

958
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: And we don't have to talk about twenty twelve, Sir Billy,

959
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: that was his final vocal performance.

960
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that nineties, early two thousands Connery arc is a

961
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: little rough.

962
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So not to say that there weren't entertaining or

963
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: even great films. I mean, Finding Forrester got a lot

964
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: of great reviews at the time. But does anyone The

965
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: Rock is really fun? The Rock is fun. But does

966
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: anyone consider these great Connery films? I don't know that

967
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: they do. Meanwhile, just looking at his pre Highlander two films,

968
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: going back no further than nineteen eighty, there's a lot

969
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: of great stuff in there. There's nineteen eighty one's Outland,

970
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: the sci fi western. There's Time Bandits from the same year.

971
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: There's eighty seven's The Untouchables, eighty nine's Indiana Jenes and

972
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: the last cru said nineteen ninety is The Hunt for

973
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: Red October and nineteen eighty six is alone pretty impressive

974
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: because you have Connery playing both the dashing mentor Ramires,

975
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: who I think, if I'm using the term correctly, is

976
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: like impure zady mode in Highland Er one, so you

977
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: have that role as a mentor. But then at the

978
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: same year he's playing Sir William of Basterville in the

979
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: Name of the Rose, and I think these are both peak,

980
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, and he also rather different performances from Sean Connery.

981
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: It is hard to believe he made Highlander two the

982
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: year after he made The Hunt for Red October.

983
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I haven't seen The Hunt for October in

984
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: a while, but I have a friend who just very

985
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: recently was just insisting that it is. It's really really good, and.

986
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's like the military thriller is not really

987
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: my genre of choice, but I got to give it credit,

988
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: like as an example of that genre. I think it's

989
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: top notch.

990
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Well, anyway, I think Sean Connery may come

991
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: up again on Weird House Cinema at some point in

992
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: the future. So we're gonna leave the rest of his

993
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: filmography for later, but suffice to say that his pre

994
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty filmography is perhaps best known for his defining

995
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: performances as James Bond, but there's even then, there's still

996
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of weirder and more daring work sprinkled throughout

997
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: that time period. You know, like he was he was

998
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: playing Bond, but he was also at times trying some

999
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: really weird things. Not everything worked. There's some strange choices

1000
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: in there as well. Going through the rest of the cast.

1001
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: Here of note, Virginia Madsen is in it playing Louise Marcus.

1002
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: She's our environmental terrorist slash love interest for Connor born

1003
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one. We recently talked about her because she

1004
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: is Princess Roulan from David Lynch's doune Oscar nominated actress

1005
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: for two thousand and five Sideways, whose credits also include

1006
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two s Candy Man, nineteen ninety five's The Prophecy,

1007
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: The Angel one to be Sure not The Mutant Bear one,

1008
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: and then various TV projects as well.

1009
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 3: I think her relationship with Connor MacLeod in this movie

1010
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 3: is one of the most unearned romances in all of

1011
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: movie history. They literally just they don't know each other.

1012
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: They just meet and like get into a fight with

1013
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 3: some aliens who fly in from out of nowhere. Within

1014
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 3: moments they are kissing. It is unbelievable.

1015
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is ridiculous. So this is, as is often

1016
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: the case with films like this, not a great showcase

1017
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: for her talents. But she is as good as you

1018
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: might expect in this role.

1019
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Virginia Madison is a great actress, and she brings

1020
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: a levity to this role. And like there's even a

1021
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: part where she's quite literally just a scene where she

1022
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: is explaining back the premise of the movie to Christuff

1023
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: Limbert in his apartment and commenting on the fact that

1024
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, and he just replies

1025
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: by quoting the name of a queen song that's mentioned

1026
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 3: four or five times in the movie. He's like, it's

1027
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: just kind of magic.

1028
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: It's a great song. It's a great song.

1029
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1030
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, So in a way, she's sort of like

1031
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 3: the regular the observer character who's like looking on this

1032
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 3: with the audience and being like, what are you saying here?

1033
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: They come here and now you're immortal again. But if

1034
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 3: you chop their heads off, you become mortal. Okay.

1035
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Without her, everything makes even less sense because there's

1036
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: no one to explain it to. All right. So when

1037
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: it comes to villains, how do you top Clancy Brown

1038
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: as the Kuragan for to shear over the top evilness?

1039
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: I would argue that you don't. But what you can

1040
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: do is cast Michael Ironside and let him absolutely dial

1041
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: everything he does up to eleven.

1042
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: Rob, I am offended. How dare you say eleven? He

1043
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: is at twenty six? There is not a single line

1044
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: he says in this movie where you don't see his teeth.

1045
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: He's just like and it's all like he's in full

1046
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: clown mode.

1047
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've seen interview snippets from him where he was like, yeah,

1048
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: didn't like the script. Nobody liked the script. But you know,

1049
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: I was going to make sure that I was the

1050
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: most memorable part of any scene I was in, you know,

1051
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: and you got to admire that, you know, someone who's like,

1052
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: they're not going to phone it in, they are going

1053
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: to make sure that they are just delivering it completely

1054
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: gift wrapped to you, the full Michael Ironside experience. Now,

1055
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: we previously discussed Ironside in our episode on nineteen eighty

1056
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: one Scanners, in which he played the rogue scanner Darryl Revick,

1057
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: and that's the film that helped propel him into villain

1058
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: roles like this one, like Total Recall and so forth.

1059
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I think he's, without a doubt one of the best

1060
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: heavies of all time and certainly of this time period.

1061
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: Like this is the type of villain role that he

1062
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: could just absolutely inhabit.

1063
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: He is an all time movie villain. Got love Michael Ironside.

1064
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: Gotta love the menace he brings, and I love how

1065
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: in all of his movies from this period he plays

1066
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: a character whose name could be the name of a

1067
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: knife company. So he's always he's Richter, he's Katana, he's

1068
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: revoc like all the names that have like these hard

1069
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: angles in them and suggest cutting.

1070
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even his actual name Ironside, Yeah, yeah,

1071
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: could be a knife company, but yeah, And certainly his

1072
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: performance is cut there. He's always a treat in anything

1073
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: he's in. And there are a number of other Ironside

1074
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: films on the sort of waiting list for weird House

1075
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: Cinema that we'll have to get to, all right, A

1076
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: couple of other actors worth mentioning in passing here at

1077
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: least Alan rich plays the character name in this is

1078
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: one of the scientists of the Shield Corporation.

1079
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1080
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: He lived nineteen twenty six through twenty twenty character actor,

1081
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: with credit stretching from nineteen fifty three till twenty fourteen.

1082
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: His roles include roles in such films as seventy three, Cerpico,

1083
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: ninety four's Disclosure, and Quiz Show. He also did a

1084
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: little directing, I think mostly like some short film projects.

1085
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: He does a really unceremonious cinematic ins to death in

1086
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: this movie, where you know, he just delivers a final,

1087
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: bittersweet final line and this then goes uugh, All's over, okay,

1088
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: done with him?

1089
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: All right? Then we also have John C McGinley in

1090
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: this playing the character Blake, who's like what the sea

1091
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: EO of Shield corp I.

1092
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: Don't know what John C McGinley is doing in this movie.

1093
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: This is one of the weirdest performances in it. It's

1094
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 3: not as like up to eleven or up to twenty

1095
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: six as Michael Ironside, but he's doing something strange.

1096
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. This is an American actor, perhaps best known to

1097
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: many for his long running role as what one of

1098
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: the doctors on the TV series Scrubs, but he was

1099
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: also in eighty six is Platoon, eighty seven's Wall Street,

1100
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: ninety one's Point Break, and he was actually in nineteen

1101
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: ninety five to seven. He was also in nineteen ninety

1102
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: six Is the Rock Wow. A number of connections here,

1103
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: so much crossover, Yeah, and nineteen ninety nine's Office Space.

1104
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: I would say he's definitely a guy who's great at

1105
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: playing a good suit. You know, when you need like

1106
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: that suit character that management slimy CEO type, this is

1107
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: your guy.

1108
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: He I mean, yeah, he generally is, though in this

1109
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: movie he's he's a little weirder than you would expect

1110
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: for that kind of character, isn't he. Like there are

1111
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: scenes where he's he's kind of hamming it up. You know,

1112
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: when General Katana walks into the board meeting, he's like, Oh,

1113
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: I've had enough of you.

1114
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1115
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like they realize, like this is unbelievable,

1116
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: Like this, this straight up space barbarian has walked into

1117
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: your boardroom, and you're gonna pretend that you're still in charge.

1118
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: Like there is a comic energy to this that needs

1119
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: to be enhanced, not ignored, Or at least that was

1120
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: my read on the situation.

1121
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think that's what he's going for.

1122
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: It just John C McGinley gives me the vibe, whereas

1123
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: like Michael ironside's playing the role pretty consistently in that

1124
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: it's always cranked to like twenty six with dashes of clown.

1125
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: John C McGinley seems to be trying something different in

1126
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 3: all of his scenes.

1127
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, see what sticks all right. Finally the music on

1128
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: this one, So Michael came in did the score for

1129
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: the first film, and this time around it is American

1130
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: musician and composer Stuart Copeland born nineteen fifty two, best

1131
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: known as the drummer for the Police.

1132
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: Got to respect the drummer from the Police. If you

1133
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: listen to them, they've got some really complicated, difficult drum parts.

1134
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: Copeland knows what he's doing.

1135
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: I'll have to go back and listen to some Police tracks.

1136
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: But he's also done a lot of film scoring as well.

1137
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: His first score was for nineteen eighty three's Rumblefish, directed

1138
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: by Francis Ford Coppola, and he went on to score

1139
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: such films as Wall Street and Good Burger than a

1140
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff as well. No slam on Good Burger.

1141
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: I know people who are big fans of Good Burger.

1142
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: They couldn't get Hans Zimmer for Good Burger.

1143
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: Hans Zimmer has directed, as we've said, a lot of

1144
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: films and not I imagine some of them are maybe

1145
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: in like this same stratosphere as Good Burger.

1146
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: Can you imagine the trailer Welcome to Good Burger, Home

1147
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: of the Good Burger.

1148
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: Now, I would say in general this film suffers from

1149
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: a lack of Queen tracks. There was a rewatching it.

1150
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: There is more use of Queen music than I remembered,

1151
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: but it's still not enough. You can't fault Copeland for

1152
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: this though. But interestingly enough, the Police were also originally

1153
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: considered for the Highlander one soundtrack before they ended up

1154
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: going with Queen.

1155
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 3: Oh that would have been a different feeling, wouldn't it.

1156
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to imagine it, you know,

1157
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: all respect in the world of the police. But I mean,

1158
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: that's Queen's movie, and it's not even Highlander without that

1159
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: awesome soundtrack by Queen. I listened to the full uh,

1160
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: it's a kind of magic album yesterday whilst working on

1161
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: some of these notes, and it's just it's just a

1162
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: treat here. We are, all right, let's let's start getting

1163
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: into the plot here a little bit. Let's start discussing

1164
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: Highlander two in earnest.

1165
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: Knowing that we will have to break for time soon,

1166
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: but I think we find we'll find a natural place

1167
01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: to do that.

1168
01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

1169
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: So, because the first act of this cut of the

1170
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: movie is so relentlessly excellent, I admit I might be

1171
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: a little too detail oriented in recounting it. We'll see,

1172
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 3: but I do want to capture in this episode and

1173
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 3: the next, like the rhythm of plot developments, especially once

1174
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: you get to the year twenty twenty four, at least

1175
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: up until the part where Connor McLeod becomes hot again,

1176
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 3: because everything up to that point is just like a

1177
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 3: relentless tickle of my brain and it's so good.

1178
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then when he gets hot again, that's in

1179
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: the midst of one of the best sequences in the

1180
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: entire film.

1181
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, So we open on a cursed opaque sky

1182
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: filled with poisonous orange smog, and there's a dissonant minor

1183
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: chord playing on the soundtrack, and the title reads August

1184
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine, and we hear the voiceover of a

1185
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: newscaster who says, good morning, Today's top story is the

1186
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 3: Ozone Layer. Can you imagine that being the top story

1187
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 3: in the news. It says, today's top story is the

1188
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: ozone l It continues to disintegrate, taking with it our

1189
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 3: protection from the sun's rays. Then more voices join and

1190
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: we hear different news reports playing over one another about

1191
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: how it's too dangerous to go outside, the White House

1192
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: has declared a national emergency, etc.

1193
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: Now quick note here, if you want to hear us

1194
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: talk more about the ozone Layer aspect of this plot,

1195
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: go back into the archives and find the stuff to

1196
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: blow your mind episode about Highlander two, and that's where

1197
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: you will find extended discussion on bad aspect of the film.

1198
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 3: So then some newscaster says, in Africa, where shelter from

1199
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: the sun is almost non existent, the dead and dying

1200
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: number in the millions. I found that confusing. It's like,

1201
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: where shelter there are buildings with roofs in Africa, What

1202
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: are they talking about? But anyway, we're told that people

1203
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 3: are dying from exposure to the sun. And we see

1204
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 3: what looks like a giant warehouse full of patients and

1205
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: sick beds, with nurses running around and a sign tell

1206
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: us this is the solar radiation ward. Then another newscaster

1207
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: comes in and says it's just a few months now

1208
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: until the ozone layer is completely gone. A team of

1209
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: international scientists led by doctor Allan Naman and supervised by

1210
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: Connor McLeod work around the clock. This may be the

1211
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: last chance for planet Earth. And here we see Christopher

1212
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: Lambert as Connor MacLeod wearing a suit and tie. He's

1213
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 3: gathered with other scientists and some kind of concrete bunker

1214
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 3: with light pouring in from a horizontal window on the side,

1215
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 3: like they're about to observe the trinity test. It looks

1216
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: like that one of the nuclear observation bunkers, a shorter

1217
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 3: man in a bow tie, hugs Connor and says they'll

1218
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 3: remember this day for a thousand years, the day we

1219
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: protected the planet from the Sun. I don't know why

1220
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: that's so funny, but it is from the Sun. So

1221
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: we hear a countdown began, and they're preparing to activate

1222
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: the shield which is going to protect the Earth from

1223
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: the Sun. And we see dudes in yellow devo suits

1224
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: sprinting away from the direction of a giant concrete pyramid.

1225
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't know why they have to sprint again. This

1226
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: seems like a planned event, so they could be on

1227
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 3: a car or something, but a satellite in space rotates

1228
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: into position. We see technicians and operators in a command center,

1229
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: all confirming that they are ready to go. I have

1230
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 3: to say a lot of the technicians really are dressed

1231
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 3: like LDS missionaries, like the crisp white shirt and the

1232
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 3: black tie.

1233
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a choice.

1234
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: And then we see the pyramid and there's like the

1235
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 3: big concrete pyramid with sort of skyscrapers on top of

1236
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 3: the pyramid, and then a giant beam of energy starts

1237
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: shooting out of it, goes up into the sky and

1238
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: the shield is turned on, and so it looks kind

1239
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 3: of like a lightsaber beam going out of the pyramid

1240
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: into space. It connects with the beam from a satellite

1241
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 3: and establishes some kind of multicolored laser aurora net that

1242
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 3: spreads out over the surface of the Earth, blocking the

1243
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: Sun's rays and shrouding the Earth in darkness.

1244
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: I want to throw in that if you watch carefully,

1245
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: at least one of these sci fi ground command guys

1246
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: is Russell McKay in a director's cameo, which is pretty fun.

1247
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 3: Oh I don't know which one though.

1248
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: He says a line or two. So, but he's just

1249
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: one of the one of the crew there behind a

1250
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: computer screen.

1251
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's the guy with the ponytail.

1252
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: This one in the still that you have in the outline. Yes,

1253
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: that's not him. It's another guy, but he's in there somewhere.

1254
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: So as far as the prolog goes like, this is

1255
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: a success story, right, this is essentially how Connor McLeod

1256
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: uses the prize to save the world. He's able to

1257
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: orchestrate this massive technoscientific effort to save the world from

1258
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: its own depleted ozone layer and protect it from solar radiation.

1259
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 3: Really appreciate your reading of how the prize is actually

1260
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 3: being used in the setup of the movie here. I

1261
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 3: had never put that together before, but it makes sense.

1262
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: If he can read everyone's minds to establish peace and harmony,

1263
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: he would be a great uh well actually, and maybe

1264
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm taking this for granted that that would make one

1265
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 3: a great organizer of people, but it seems like it could.

1266
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: Seems like it could. Yeah, Like once you get down

1267
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty of it, I don't know, you're

1268
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: still dealing with very difficult problems of international cooperation and

1269
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: corporate interests and public sentiment and so forth. But if

1270
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: anybody can do it, it's the immortal guy who can

1271
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: read everybody's mind.

1272
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: That's right. So he gets all of the scientists together

1273
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 3: and they're ready to protect the earth. But as we

1274
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 3: learn as the film progresses, this protective shield does succeed

1275
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 3: in its goal. It does protect the Earth from the sun,

1276
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: but it comes with a lot of downsides, and those

1277
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 3: downsides will ultimately make everyone hate Connor mcleoughd, make him

1278
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 3: very alone, and literally people come up to him in

1279
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: the streets saying, like, you put that puke in the sky.

1280
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 3: I hate you. You ruined my life.

1281
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder if the screenwriters here were perhaps

1282
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Speaker 1: dipping a little bit into some of the themes and the

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Speaker 1: Dune sequels where you know, like in Doune Messiah and

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Speaker 1: then also in God Emperor of Dune in Post God

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Speaker 1: improv of Doom books, where you know, you're dealing with

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Speaker 1: interpretations of rulers and you know, major players in history

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Speaker 1: that then cast them as devils and tyrants and so forth,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's like Connor does save the world

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Speaker 1: and does the world thank him. No, they really get

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Speaker 1: sick of his solution.

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Speaker 3: They literally throw bottles at him in bars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But.

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Speaker 3: It's also funny because it presumes anybody would know what

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Speaker 3: a like scientist looks like or the administrator of a

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Speaker 3: scientific project looks like like twenty five years after it's over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't know. I guess he was that

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Speaker 1: of a celebrity. It's like knowing what Einstein looked like,

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Speaker 1: except I don't know, except more handsome.

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Speaker 3: So I think we're gonna have to end part one

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Speaker 3: of our discussion of Highlander two the Quickening, but we

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Speaker 3: will be back with more because right after what we've

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Speaker 3: gotten to in the plot, it cuts to twenty five

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Speaker 3: years in the future, to the year twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Like this is a contemporary story.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to leave you wondering until next week

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Speaker 3: how future events such as these will affect you in

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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So make sure you go ahead and tune in.

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Speaker 1: And hey, if you listen to this entire episode and

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Speaker 1: you still haven't watched Highlander two in full, here's a

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Speaker 1: great chance to do it. Fill the time between this

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Speaker 1: episode and the next watching some version of Highland or two,

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Speaker 1: you know, preferably the theatrical cut, the ice cut. But hey,

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Speaker 1: work with what you got because some of these sequences

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Speaker 1: are still gonna be mindlessly stupid or just amazingly awesome,

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Speaker 1: so you'll still be able to relate to what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a good time no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well just remind you here. The Stuff

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