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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the stratisphere of normalcy. Well, hello, everyone, welcome to

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live Thursday edition. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 1: As is usually the case, as we now sit one

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Speaker 1: it is almost football nerd Christmas. It's almost like COVID again.

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Speaker 1: What's life gonna be like when the draft is gone?

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Speaker 1: You know, like, well we'll have schedule reles, what's normal

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Speaker 1: gonna look like when the COVID's gone? And what's the

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Speaker 1: what's our show going to be like? When the draft

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Speaker 1: is not here to talk about Well, we want to

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Speaker 1: have this plexiglass between us anymore, Steve, that's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's that's not about the draft though, that's COVID. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what else? I mean, what are gonna talk about? The schedule?

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Speaker 1: May twelfth, that's not very far prime time. It's coming

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Speaker 1: four primetime games. It's gonna be awesome. Buffalo is going

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Speaker 1: to be in demand. And I will go as far

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Speaker 1: as saying you and I talked about this yesterday. How

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Speaker 1: all right home. Yeah, from what I've heard, the rumblings

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Speaker 1: and the conversations on other programs and stuff. Salth capaccio.

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Speaker 1: A friend is he's been talking about this as well.

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Speaker 1: It seems as though the television partners you know the atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: And I've talked after not being in the building last year,

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Speaker 1: You think about what it would be like if it

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Speaker 1: was a opening day Sunday afternoon, one o'clock they introduced

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Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bills and they're introducing offense today opening

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Speaker 1: Day twenty twenty one, and the last guy they introduced

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Speaker 1: how you know how bad this fan base wants to

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Speaker 1: your way games, right, but it's this fan base. Do

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Speaker 1: it is unbelievable, man, it it makes the hair on

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Speaker 1: your next stand up. It's pretty awesome. So I think

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Speaker 1: you know, the TV partners they want to, they want

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Speaker 1: to I want that, Yeah, they go. You know what,

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Speaker 1: let's put that at eight o'clock on a Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Opened the season with that. Let's get kicked off, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, bring the Chiefs in. You know we're away, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're way. You know we're whatever. Bring point understood, right,

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Speaker 1: So let's bring in? What who are the other team?

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Speaker 1: Who was another team we would play New England or

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Speaker 1: I gotta, I don't see. I haven't been down that

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Speaker 1: I know these things. But you know you're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: mean presto here. You know, turn the lights on and

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Speaker 1: you know boom where rubber gloves or you get shot.

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Speaker 1: Let's kick off the seat of Ben Roethlisberger, Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: Or we could have we could have the universal alumnus

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Washington football team, every every reversal alumnus.

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Speaker 1: That's better than the Amish rifle. The universal alumnus, Steve

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Speaker 1: Where did you write that? Patrick has been on every

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Speaker 1: team in the league. Everybody's gonna have skin in that game.

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Speaker 1: Come on, it's only been nine teams, right, half the

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Speaker 1: so that's what we are going to talk about that now,

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Speaker 1: plenty of time to dice that, right, all that seventeen

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Speaker 1: to digest it all. It'll be like a lapping up

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Speaker 1: apple pie and some vanilla ice cream or something. Heat

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Speaker 1: it up for thirty seconds by the way up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well yeah, it's I'm got to be careful now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: heavy on the dairy. Uh. NFL owners passed some new

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Speaker 1: rules Steve. One that's really not going to have a

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Speaker 1: also this, The NFL will make taunting a point of

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Speaker 1: have situations in games where flags are going to get thrown,

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Speaker 1: week sixteen. That's gonna get a flag for taunting, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have to actually consider picking them, right, they're like

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Speaker 1: in full blown scramble mode, trying to get all of

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Speaker 1: the medical in on some of these guys, especially some

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Speaker 1: that couldn't even make it to the medical recheck due

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Speaker 1: to COVID restrictions or something like that. Jalen Phillips was

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Speaker 1: an example of that. They did the medical rechecks a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago in Indie. Believe they send forty

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Speaker 1: five or were scheduled to send forty five players up there.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips was one of the guys who could not

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Speaker 1: go because he was a COVID tracing contact and could

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Speaker 1: not travel or be in the same vicinity as these

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Speaker 1: other forty players because of a COVID risk. He didn't go.

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Speaker 1: And that's the guy with the concussion history. I think

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Speaker 1: he also had a shoulder surgery. So one of the

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Speaker 1: things that happened to this and the way I understand

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Speaker 1: it and I think this is correct, he was at

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Speaker 1: UCLA and that's where he had the concussions three in

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Speaker 1: rapid succession. UCLA said, son, you need to hang it up.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't medically clear him to play. So he said,

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Speaker 1: forget you. I'm getting a second opinion. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: a school that will let me play and lo and

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Speaker 1: beholds in Miami. He stepped away from football. He did retire, retire,

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Speaker 1: I mean, does a college player retire? I guess they do.

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Speaker 1: And then Miami got on the phone with him and said,

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Speaker 1: you should play, man, come here and play. Just play.

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Speaker 1: For a year. It went swimmingly well, yes, to the

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Speaker 1: point where he's considered if you took the medical out

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Speaker 1: and he had a clean bill of health, he'd be

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Speaker 1: a top ten pick. Yes, he's that good. He's really good.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's so that there are players like this

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Speaker 1: that really give you pause because the talent is undeniable,

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Speaker 1: but the medical history makes you worry and say, this

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Speaker 1: guy has one more concussion. Does he say I can't

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Speaker 1: play anymore and walk away again? You don't know unless

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Speaker 1: you've had face to face time and you can kind

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Speaker 1: of get his thoughts on it. But if the doctors,

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Speaker 1: you know, if your medical staff says yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: he says he'll keep playing. And even if he gets

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Speaker 1: another concussion, but he gets one or two more, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be safe for him to keep playing. Right

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Speaker 1: against him, It's just the fact of the matter. But

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Speaker 1: it's a risk it's a major risk. This is a

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Speaker 1: collision sport. I don't have to tell you that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: concussions happen even despite all the safety measures this league

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Speaker 1: has put in. I had, yeah, significant number, and um,

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Speaker 1: it is a concern. It is a concern, and I

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Speaker 1: think that. But the biggest concern is that they can't

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Speaker 1: check him out with their own They just don't have

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Speaker 1: the access to get can't get your hands on, can't

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Speaker 1: get your hand until you draft him and then he's

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Speaker 1: in your building. They're like, oh boy, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a problem here, right, what we just made him the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth pick in the draft. What do you mean

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Speaker 1: we have a problem right? So yeah, it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tricky. It's gonna be tricky for sure. From John

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, I want Kyle Pitts trade up

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Speaker 1: and let's make a run at the Lombardi. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: want a pony. I want you want a race car?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, why don't you just you know, why don't

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Speaker 1: you trade up for get Trevor Lawrence, Josh, you'd say

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Speaker 1: your dream scenario. So that's his dream? Um, but you

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Speaker 1: Brandon being pretty much a lift if you gave up

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Speaker 1: what it would take to get Kyle Pitts. You won't

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, well you won't. He'll be your only

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Speaker 1: pick this year, and you may only have two picks

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Speaker 1: next year. Oh, you don't have to throw and you

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Speaker 1: don't have to throw in what Dion Dawkins and Tremaine

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Speaker 1: Edmonds and trade Is White. I mean, that's what it'll

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Speaker 1: take to get that guy. Nobody's gonna move out of

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Speaker 1: that spot for well, yeah, all of your draft peah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're you're throwing it. You're giving him a bag of

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Speaker 1: footballs for the top guy in the draft, top non

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Speaker 1: quarterback anyway, top non quarterback. I mean, yeah, you just

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Speaker 1: I get it. I mean I get it. The guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody's got a crush on Kyle Pitts. Let

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Speaker 1: me just tell you this. If he goes to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: he'll be okay, really he'll be okay. Why just okay?

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Speaker 1: Because they got Julio Jones, they got all these other guys.

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Speaker 1: He'll be He'll have some moments, but he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be He's not gonna be Travis Kelsey. He's certainly not

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Speaker 1: gonna be George Kittle. He's not gonna be he won't

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Speaker 1: be zach Ertz. Wow, Steve. If he doesn't go, if

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Speaker 1: he if he doesn't go to the rights, if he listen,

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Speaker 1: don't you remember who O. J. Howard was? I do O. J.

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Speaker 1: Howard was the exact It was the he was the

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Speaker 1: exact same evaluation, except O. J. Howard was more physical.

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Speaker 1: He was more physical, didn't run as well as this guy.

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Speaker 1: He can't even get on the field. He's had some injuries.

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Speaker 1: He's had some injuries. Um, come on, people think he's

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Speaker 1: pretty special. There's like five guys in the league that

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Speaker 1: are that move the needle. Kittle, Kelsey, Wall Waller from Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Now it's getting now, Andrews Grown Baltimore, Bronk and Andrews.

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Speaker 1: Andrew's pretty good, all right, and Gronk because it's Gronk,

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Speaker 1: that's it. And you don't you think those are the

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Speaker 1: only five guys in the history of the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: who have looked the part, who have been physically able

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Speaker 1: to play the park, who have been like these genetically.

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Speaker 1: Those are the only five guys that have come down

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Speaker 1: the pike and been like, Wow, this guy's really special

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Speaker 1: for athletically. No, there's like five of them. A year,

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Speaker 1: and this guy's different. I don't buy it. I really

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Speaker 1: don't buy it. It's a it's a it's an important spot.

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Speaker 1: I get it, tightens an important spot, it's one of them.

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Speaker 1: But man it everything is a about the neck up. Everything,

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Speaker 1: everything's about the neck up. I get it. And he

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Speaker 1: may be he may be a MENSA member of MENSA

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Speaker 1: for all I know. I'll believe it when I see it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but I ain't. I'm not spending the number five overall

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Speaker 1: pick to try and find out mark this one down

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Speaker 1: here he'll be okay. April twenty seconds, Steve Tasker says

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Speaker 1: Kyle pitt And I know the guy's yeah. Okay. I

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Speaker 1: forgive me for not being impressed by somebody who who's

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Speaker 1: a great athlete. I've I've lived, I lived among those guys.

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Speaker 1: I lived among those guys for a long time. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to impress me like that. Yeah. My next question

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Speaker 1: with regard to Pitts is the guy is unquestionably talented.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that his draft status is this lofty

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Speaker 1: because of what some of the premier tight ends in

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Speaker 1: the league are doing right now in offenses? I mean

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Speaker 1: kell he carries the Kansas City offense, Kittle carries the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco passing game, Gronk not as much he has,

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Speaker 1: but has in the past. And so answer that question

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Speaker 1: when we come back, have the premier tight ends convince

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Speaker 1: people that Kyle Pitts can do the same thing and

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Speaker 1: is that pushing his draft status as high as it is.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back to have Steve answer that question here

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by kalaid to Health. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. It's time for Steve

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Speaker 1: to answer the question I posed to him right before

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Speaker 1: we went to break, which was he believes Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 1: in all likelihood is gonna be okay, especially in year one,

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Speaker 1: not thinking he's gonna light the league on fire. And

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Speaker 1: recent history would support his claim because you look at TJ. Hockinson,

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Speaker 1: who was I think the eleventh pick in the draft

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Speaker 1: to Detroit a couple of years ago, and it's taken

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Speaker 1: him a while to get up to speed, and he

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Speaker 1: had a franchise quarterback thrown to him in Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: And you could say the same thing about a few

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Speaker 1: other tight ends. In the draft. Noah Fant took a

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Speaker 1: year or two to kind of get on track, So

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts okay in year one. I wonder, though, Steve,

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Speaker 1: about his draft. I mean, he's widely considered to be

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Speaker 1: the best non quarterback talent in the entire class. But

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Speaker 1: do you think his draft stock has been boosted by

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Speaker 1: the likes of elite tight ends like Kittle, Kelsey, Gronk,

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Speaker 1: maybe even to a certain extent, Mark Andrews, who carry

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Speaker 1: to a great degree, maybe not so much Gronk anymore

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Speaker 1: carry their team's respective passing attacks. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: has only made people even more enamored with Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 1: I think they're enamored with the position, and he plays

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Speaker 1: it um I think receiver to me, yes, he does.

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Speaker 1: But he's he's like six to five, so he's long,

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Speaker 1: really tall, and that makes a difference, and certainly you're

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Speaker 1: going to be able to break him off from the

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Speaker 1: from the formation and split him out anybody in line exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's not He's not gonna be a

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Speaker 1: physical but you know, hey, um, Kelsey's not that physical

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Speaker 1: in the run game. Kittle is. But yeah, the difference,

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Speaker 1: the George Kittle and Travis Kelsey make for their team,

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Speaker 1: the difference that we've seen Rob Gronkowski make for his team,

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Speaker 1: the difference that we've seen Tony Gonzalez make for his

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Speaker 1: team when he was playing, uh Jason Witten for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: You've got guys in the Hall of Fame like Shannon Sharpe,

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Speaker 1: John Mackey, Ozzie Newsome, Dave Casper, all of those guys

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Speaker 1: were difference makers, but they don't come along very often.

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Speaker 1: And you and I were having this conversation in the

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Speaker 1: you know, in the in the break. Guys who looked

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Speaker 1: like they can play, like this, like Kyle Pitts, like

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Speaker 1: Tonigan Zalez, like these big like Grunkowski, like all these guys.

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Speaker 1: Guys who look like they can play aren't as much

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Speaker 1: of a risk as finding a guy who doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like he can play who can. And when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about picking a guy like Kyle Pitts in the top

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Speaker 1: five of an NFL draft, it costs people jobs when

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Speaker 1: they get it wrong. What do you who do you

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00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: think is the bigger risk pitt DeVante Smith, Because if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't make it, you've got easy reasons to point

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Speaker 1: to as to why he's one hunderd and sixty six pounds.

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Speaker 1: You point to Kyle Pitts, and it's on the player.

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00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: He's got all the tools, he got everything, as you

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Speaker 1: can say, it's on the coaches where the gym is

607
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: not gonna lose his job. A trained eye to know

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Speaker 1: that Kyle Pitts is a matchup nightmare exactly. So it's

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Speaker 1: a no brainer for a top five pick for GM.

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Speaker 1: GM's not gonna lose his job if Kyle Pitts turns

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Speaker 1: into a zero because he's got everybody. He failed us,

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Speaker 1: he failed me, Yes, he failed us. It's not that

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Speaker 1: he was a bad risk to take. That's what you're

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00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: talking about when you're talking about gms who are risk

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Speaker 1: averse and when they come down to when you're at

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, Listen, you're picking first. You

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Speaker 1: want one of the surest things you can find. You're

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Speaker 1: picking first because you've already stunk for the year before that.

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Speaker 1: So if you're already a stinking franchise, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to continue to stinker. You're gonna be out of a job.

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Speaker 1: You got to get guys who are not gonna be

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Speaker 1: that much of a risk and are gonna make dB

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Speaker 1: difference makers. Did you see the figure on the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars draft history? Oh, yes, I did. I sent it

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Speaker 1: to you. I did. That was you? Oh that was you.

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Speaker 1: You were the smart guy that sent that out. That

627
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: was They've drafted one hundred dunning hundred and seventy nine

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Speaker 1: players in their history the Jacksonville Jaguars. Since nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: they have drafted one hundred and seventy nine players. They

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Speaker 1: have four players or four seasons where one guy gave

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Speaker 1: them an All Pro season. Two of them were by

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. They have four first team All Pro selections

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Speaker 1: in the history of their drafteen ninety seven. They came

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Speaker 1: into the league of ninety five, had the Expansion Draft,

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Speaker 1: and then had you know, the ninety five and ninety

636
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Speaker 1: six draft. But since nineteen ninety seven, a hundred and

637
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: seventy nine players drafted and four first team All Pro selections,

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00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: two of which are owned by Ramsey. The other two

639
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Maurice Jones, Drew and Rashine mathis another corner. Wow, four guys,

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00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: four seasons, Jayan Ramsey. I'd like to know what the

641
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: Jets record is over that span as well. But they

642
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: picked so high, so long is probably has five of them. Um. Yeah,

643
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: he's got more by himself than the Jags. Yeah, you

644
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: think about but you look at the Jacksonville team and

645
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: that's that's rough. That is a rough stretch. That's why

646
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: they are where they are. I mean, if you cannot

647
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: draft well, it's like if you just want They had

648
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Speaker 1: to put tarp over some of their seats up in

649
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: the upper deck. Yeah, that's one of the reasons. Um.

650
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: If you think about all of the teams that have

651
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: drafted near the top of the board more often than not,

652
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: Cincinnatis um, the Jets, the Jags, um Detroit, and they've

653
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: turned over their front offices more than once, and they

654
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: can't seem to get it right. They can't get somebody

655
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: with a joy rafting acumen to build their roster into

656
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: something respectable. Actually, the Jets, they've kind of sabotaged themselves

657
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: both ways, not finding people that can draft correctly, and

658
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: even when they can draft the no brainer picks, they

659
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: trade them. Yeah, Leonard Williams, Jamal Adams, Sam Darnold. I

660
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: mean these are all first round picks in the last

661
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: seven years that aren't even on their roster. Anymore. Yep.

662
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: It defies any and all logic on how to build

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00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: a football team, or build anything for that matter. Here

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Speaker 1: is a foundational piece that we think is gonna be

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00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: really good. You know what, it's trained them over here.

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00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Huh what are we doing? What are we doing with

667
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: this foundational What the hell is going on over there?

668
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: I want? I want a fourteen million dollars running back. Yeah,

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00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what dude. That's but that's amazing number

670
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Speaker 1: by the Jacksonville team. I mean that is hundred. It's

671
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: an embarrassing number. One hundred and seventy nine draft picks.

672
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: They got four seasons of one of a all pro performance.

673
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean from even the Bills prior to the current regime,

674
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: which did a lot of poor drafting. I would venture

675
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: to guess they did better than that. You know it's

676
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: ninety seven yeah or yeah, oh yeah, I mean even

677
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: so Sam Cowart, uh in the early front end of that,

678
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: Travis Henry had a really good couple of years. And yeah,

679
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Speaker 1: they rushing season. Moltz is it's ninety seven draft pick. No,

680
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: he was ninety six. He just missed the window, all right, Um,

681
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: I got up. We may have to look this up

682
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Speaker 1: and make sure. But I feel pretty confident they did

683
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Speaker 1: better than four first team All Pro maybe since ninety seven, Yeah,

684
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: not that the last few years probably help a lot

685
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Speaker 1: because we know Trudevious is in there. But man, oh man,

686
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Speaker 1: that is a stunning number. Stunning. We have to take

687
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: a break now, but when we come back. We heard

688
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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean mentioned the home run element in the running

689
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Speaker 1: game and how he is of the opinion that Singletarian

690
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: Moss do not have that in their skill set. Matt

691
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Breeda does. Who's on this roster? But what really is

692
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: the value of having a home run threat on a

693
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: roster where the identity of the offense is to throw

694
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: at forty times? Again? Is it depressed value on a

695
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: roster like this. We'll we'll talk that over when we

696
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collot of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Come back to One Bills Live.

698
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We heard during the

699
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean predraft Q and A with the media earlier

700
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: this week, he was posed the question about shying away

701
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: from a running back and round one of the draft.

702
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: He did not dismiss it as an option. He did

703
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: talk about if you're looking at a running back, you

704
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: may want to add somebody that has a skill set

705
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: that Moss and Singletary do not offer. It was his

706
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: opinion that neither of those guys are a home run threat,

707
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: and I would tend to agree with him. You know,

708
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: they're not going sixty yards for a touchdown, so maybe

709
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: that's something you look for. And then immediately everybody started

710
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: jumping on the Travis Etn train because he's probably the

711
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: best example of that in this year's draft class. I

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00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: get it be nice to have a guy that could

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00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: take a four yard carry sixty yards to the house

714
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: if he gets a crack, But I thought this was

715
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: an interesting point brought up by yards per Pass on Twitter.

716
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: They actually do a lot of Buffalo stats and stuff,

717
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: and you know, every so often they have an interesting submission,

718
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: and this was one of them. Looking for home runs

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00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: in the run game is like looking for home runs

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00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: from your pitcher in baseball. Sure there are a couple

721
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: that can do that Madison Bumgardner, sho Hey Otani, but

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00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: most of your home runs aren't coming from there. Big

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00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: plays mainly come from the passing game. And if that

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00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: wasn't true, I don't know if it's more true anywhere

725
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: than in Buffalo, where they throw the ball forty times

726
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: a game, not only that they throw it on first

727
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: and ten more than any other team in football. I

728
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: have never been thrilled with their ability to throw the

729
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: football to their backs Josh with Josh's quarterback. The ones

730
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: I remember are the ones where the guy catches it,

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00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: he gets tackled right away, or he drops it when

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00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: he's got open ground, like like like Singletary did in

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Speaker 1: the championship game. You just you need more out of him.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they got to go out and

735
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: spend the farm and get Alvin Kamara, but you need

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00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: somebody kind of like that, right, Somebody can go out

737
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: and get open and catch the ball on the move

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00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: and turn a two yard reception into a twenty five

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00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: yard game where the defense is like, oh my god,

740
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to rally to corral a guy. Right. So, if

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00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: you have a running back with elite speed and he's

742
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: a good receiver out of the backfield, now you probably

743
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: have a conversation, well, he's bringing home runnability. If you're

744
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: throwing it that much. Let me say it this way,

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00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: you have to have a running back who catches the

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Speaker 1: ball first, and if he has elite speed, that's bonus.

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00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: The catching the ball is more horton than the elite

748
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: speed because you got to have the guy in the

749
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: offense when you're not running the ball. Other than other

750
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: than that, you can just put an offensive guard in

751
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: there in the new numbers that they're allowed to wear

752
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: and let him pass protect you got the running Your

753
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: running back has to be a receiver that's in the

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00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: backfield who all who also has the ability to run

755
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: the football. That that's the game today. You're you're running

756
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: back is a receiver with a different body on him.

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00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: That's my that's my perspective here today. What is today?

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00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: On April twenty second, twenty twenty one. Going back to

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00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: one of your other UH twenty twenty one season predictions,

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00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: does this mean we can get Justin Zimmer a fullback

761
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: number now? And that's a great point by you, because

762
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: you want to make him a full I want to

763
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I want Justin Zimmer to wait, let me just think.

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00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: I want just well, he's a fullback. Oh he were

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00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: a number eight, give him the snowman. I like the

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00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: symmetry of number eight. The snowman. It's a shame. Dion

767
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Dawkins can't weary. He'd be all over. That wouldn't heed

768
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: the snow man. That'd be great. You could put a

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00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: little taper, white circle at the top, so have a

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00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: head on it. Yeah. Yeah. Bill's finished tenth in the

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00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: league last year in pass plays of twenty five yards

772
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: or more. They have thirty two of them. Tampa led

773
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: the league with forty four. Houston was second because they

774
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: were behind in every game and threw it all over

775
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: the yard Raiders third, Chiefs, fourth, Packers fifth. So you

776
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: need Aaron Jones is a home run hitter in Green

777
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: Bay as a running back, but their team was fifth

778
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: in the league in big pass plays with thirty seven.

779
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: How many big run plays did he have for long touchdowns?

780
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: Maybe three or four. I mean you'll love to have him,

781
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: but does it make or break for your team on offense? Yeah?

782
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: I probably not. I still think and I you know,

783
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm talking. I'm kind of exaggerating. I'm talking

784
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: about I'm talking about I'm talking in hyperbole, so I'm

785
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: exaggerating to make these points. Why wouldn't you put, like,

786
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: for instance, a guy like let's say Cole Beasley number,

787
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: put him in the backfield, and then he got five

788
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: wides on and a running back. And what they have

789
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: to they have to say is a running back a

790
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: guy that can throw the football and he can throw

791
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: the football, or you put Isaiah McKenzie back there in

792
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: a as a single back, that kind of thing all

793
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Now that's more of what you're looking

794
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: at is a running back in the NFL now than

795
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: ever before. You see what I'm saying. That's my that's

796
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: my philosophy right now, that's just shift. I just know

797
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: running back in round one is something that won't go

798
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: away for the Bills in terms of the people in

799
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: the prediction game, the mock draft game, because when push

800
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: comes to schev, you gotta have the threat that you're

801
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: going to hand it off. And I don't know, you know,

802
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: if Cole Beasley back there, you ain't handing it off? Well,

803
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: no he's not. But I cards after content, right right

804
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: Isam McKinzie. Maybe, but a guy like and Alvin Kamara, yeah,

805
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary of course, Zach Moss of course, and you

806
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: get one of these other guys in there. Yeah, okay,

807
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: but we're not afraid of this guy to catch catching

808
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: the ball, so you know who cares. I get it.

809
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I get it. That's where I'm at today. I understand

810
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: we have coming up next someone to dive into the

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00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: advanced metrics of the draft to see what makes sense

812
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: from a positional need perspective for the Bills. It's Warren Sharp,

813
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Edge football analyst and founder of Sharp Football Analysis.

814
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: He joins us next here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Klata Health Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker

816
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: who has been all over the field. Kind of unique.

817
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

818
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratgyre of normalcy.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our number two one Bills Live. Chris Brown,

820
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as we are motoring through a

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the show and talking about your dream

822
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: pick for the Bills and your nightmare pick that you

823
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: want the Bills to avoid like the plague. Send your

824
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: thoughts in to us on the tweet sheet at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. But joining us now on the line is

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Speaker 1: the NBC Sports Edge analyst, founder of Sharp Football Analysis,

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Speaker 1: and the man with the meanest mustache this side of

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Speaker 1: Mike Ditka. It is one Warren Sharp joining us on

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Speaker 1: the show. Warren, thanks for making some time for us

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Speaker 1: here during the busy pre draft season. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I want to start right here because Steve and I

832
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 1: have been on this train for a while. We've seen

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Speaker 1: all the mock drafts that continually mock running back to

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Speaker 1: the Bills at thirty. We don't believe that's the best

835
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 1: value there based on draft history, based on the fact

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Speaker 1: that they've got two third round picks each to the

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Speaker 1: last two drafts that were running backs and pretty good ones.

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Speaker 1: I take it you're in a similar camp on that right. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's nice to be among friends, gentlemen. Thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on. I love your opinion of this topic because

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Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree. Look, let's pretend we want to dig

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00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: into the analytics and focus on what really matters. What

843
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: really matters for a team to be better running the

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Speaker 1: football is the production of their offensive line and how

845
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Speaker 1: well they can open up those holes in run block

846
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: as well as when the offensive coordinators calling run plays,

847
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: how many defenders are in the box. Those are the

848
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: two things that are going to dictate most the production

849
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: of a running back, and what we've seen is that

850
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: more often than not, running backs tend to be replaceable.

851
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: You can find talent in the later rounds. When its

852
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: starter goes down, you're going to be able to get

853
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: relatively efficient production from his backup similar to what that

854
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: starter was able to deliver, because it matters more so

855
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: what the line and the time that you're calling the

856
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: plays are. But let's pretend you forget all of that

857
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: and you just want to say, let's look back at history.

858
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: So what I did for NBC is I went back

859
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: and I looked at the last twenty teams that chose

860
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: to select a running back in the first round. How

861
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: did those running backs perform? How did those teams end

862
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: up doing record wise? Number One, those running backs, most

863
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: of those running backs, fifteen out of last twenty were

864
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: not even the number one yard per carry running back

865
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: starter on their team. So fifteen out of twenty, that's

866
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: a massive amount that didn't even meet that threshold. Number Two,

867
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: most of these guys, we're not even delivering average yards

868
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: per carry across the end fall. They weren't even exceeding

869
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: expectation in terms of the average yards per carry what

870
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: ends up happening, though, when you do get lucky, it's

871
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: very rare that you're going to get lucky and actually

872
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: get a first round like Pro Bowl potential caliber running

873
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: back in the first round. If you get lucky, what

874
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: teams end up doing is they pay these guys far

875
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: too early because they're like, well, we can't let them

876
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: get away. We got to keep this guy. So the

877
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: argument that the pro get a running back in the

878
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: first round audience has is, well, you can use him

879
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: for four years plus a fifty year option, run him

880
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: into the ground, and then kick him to the curb,

881
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: get great production for very cheap. But as we look

882
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: back at all the guys like Todd Gurley, like Ezekiel Elliott,

883
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey, the three guys that actually were hits,

884
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: they paid them after the third year, So it totally

885
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: negates the benefit of going after these guys. In last point,

886
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: none of those teams end up producing better records after

887
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: they draft these guys. In fact, there are fewer wins,

888
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: fewer trips to the playoffs, and fewer playoff wins in

889
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: the years after drafting these first round running backs then

890
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: there were in the year before they even drafted one. Yeah,

891
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: and now fans in the counterpart, they always rationalize why

892
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: they think they look at last year's Travis the Clyde

893
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: Edwards Laire goes to the chief Now, the Chiefs had

894
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: a fully formed playoff Super Bowl roster and they take

895
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: a running back in the first round. Is that the

896
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: exception to your rule? And if so, Bills fans or

897
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: fans across the count will say, hey, that's the trend.

898
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: Now everybody's got to do it like the Chiefs do it.

899
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Right now, you could say it's the exception, but it

900
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: really is not. That team fell short of doing anything

901
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: last year because their offensive line went down. In fact,

902
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: that's the reason that you go offensive line here as

903
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: opposed to going running back. Yes, Clyde Edwards Hilaire is

904
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: a talent. Some of these guys are at talent that

905
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: end up delivering decent production in the first year that

906
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: you draft them. But it's not actually the difference in

907
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: terms of what is making you go to the playoffs

908
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: or what is making you make a deep playoff run.

909
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: As we know, Clyde la suffered some injuries along the way.

910
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: Guess what the running back is the number one most

911
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: injured position in the NFL, guys like Christian McCaffrey who

912
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: get big deals and then go down. Guys like Zeke

913
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: Elliott have injury issues along the way. Todd Gurley is

914
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: not on the team any longer. In fact, what most

915
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: most often happens, rather than give a guy a second contract,

916
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: first round running backs get cut on that first year,

917
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: dear deal far more often than they get a second contract.

918
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think that the Chiefs are the exception

919
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: to the rule. I think the Chiefs represent the reason

920
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: why you go offensive linemen rather than first round running

921
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: back and then Warren. You know, in the first round,

922
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: you know there are perceived primary value type positions where

923
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: you get your most bang for your book. The Bills

924
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: are in the market for some cornerback help and some

925
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: edge rusher help. Where do those positions rank in terms

926
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: of first round value, just on the whole, not in

927
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: terms of where the Bills are pa necessarily at thirty,

928
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: but in terms of what the history of the league

929
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: has told you about corner and you know, edge rusher

930
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: in round one. Well, the way that I always look

931
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: at the NFL Draft in terms of the first round specifically,

932
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: is we don't have to guess. We don't have to

933
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: try to use a lot of detailed analytics to figure

934
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: out while what were the guys that hit. Primarily, just

935
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: look at the fifth year options. Did a player get

936
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: it a fifth year option or not? It's very simple.

937
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 1: That means the team or an extension right even better

938
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: than a fifty year option. But did a player get

939
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: nothing and was cut either before the fourth year or

940
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: after his fourth year after his first round first rookie

941
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: deal ends, or did the team keep him on for

942
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: longer and corners end up doing better? Then do edge rushers?

943
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: From that perspective, offensive linemen, however, do the very best.

944
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a position that's terrible, it

945
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: is to running back a position that's great if it's

946
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: offensive line. And just by that metrical loan, corners end

947
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: up stick around longer than edge rushers. But I don't

948
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: know that that's the reason that you would go for

949
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: one over the other in the first round. I think

950
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: at that point you're looking at who's available and what

951
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: your needs are at those two positions, and you try

952
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: to figure out what would be the best fit for

953
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: your team. At that point, what do you think about

954
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: the way the Bills have drafted over the last three

955
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: or four years. Finding a team that's done a better

956
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: jobs it's really difficult too. They've done it. Brandan Bean's

957
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: done an excellent job of showing it together, talent of

958
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: hitting on guys where they've needed to hit. It's a

959
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: large part of the reason why the team is in

960
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: the position that they were last season in the AFC

961
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Championship game. I mean, I've been very impressed by the

962
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: job that the Buffalo Bills have done in the NFL draft,

963
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: and then Warren. I don't know if you're aware of this,

964
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: but I was recently made aware of it. It looks

965
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: as though the total draft pool of players available represented

966
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: by agents and such is way down this year from

967
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: what it's been in recent years because the CIA gave

968
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: players during this pandemic year the option of an extra

969
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: year of eligibility, and as a result, a lot of

970
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: players have gone back to school. So last year, for example,

971
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: the draft pool was over nineteen hundred players. This year

972
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: it's barely over six hundred and fifty. So with that

973
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: in mind, there is a general thought that general managers

974
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: across the league are going to be dumping day three

975
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: picks like they're going out of style this year and

976
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: trading them for late round picks next year or whatever

977
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: they can get their hands on. Do you think there's

978
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: merit to that general thought? Well, number one, I've talked

979
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: to some gms. They have that in the back of

980
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: their mind as well. So that's one hundred percent a

981
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: real thing that guys that are evaluating the usefulness of

982
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: these picks are contemplating the benefit of valuing twenty twenty

983
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: two picks over twenty twenty one picks. So number one,

984
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: we've established that is true. Now it is something that

985
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: could merit some value if they're correct. I tend to

986
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: think that the NFL draft in general is very much

987
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: of a crapshoot, And so are they really just because

988
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: they've met with a guy a few more times going

989
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: to be that much better at predicting whether or not

990
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: he's going to transition into the NFL. We see gms

991
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: all the time with a lot of time to evaluate

992
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: guys that with completely, So I don't know, this is

993
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: sort of going to help a lot. Could it help some? Yes,

994
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: what it's going to do is going to take and

995
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: pretended there's an offensive lineman who has short arms and

996
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: you need him to move him to guard potentially to

997
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL, but you'd rather him come

998
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: and work with your offensive line coach and really see

999
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: if you think he's going to be able to make

1000
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: that transition or not. Without those meetings in person, you

1001
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: are not going to be able to evaluate that player,

1002
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: and so you may take him off your board or

1003
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: shift them down tremendously. So there is some merit to

1004
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: that logic in general. But I always believe what Warren

1005
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: Buffett said, where where some people are scared, that's where

1006
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: you could show some strength. And so there are going

1007
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: to be some teams that might benefit from being very

1008
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: aggressive in this year's draft and landing some guys that

1009
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: other people were willing to give up on if they

1010
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: just wanted to move down and get out of here.

1011
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: But it always takes two to tango guys when you're

1012
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: trying to trade down, and we saw last year some

1013
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: teams were trying to trade down, but they just didn't

1014
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: have a draft partner who wanted to trade up with

1015
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: them and give up those picks. So we'll see how

1016
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: many trades actually occur here in the AFC East. The

1017
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and the New York just have some draft capital,

1018
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: quite a bit of draft capital in this year's draft.

1019
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: Given the fact and given whatever general percentages you would

1020
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: ascribe to most gems, I mean, everybody has good years,

1021
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: good drafts, and bad drafts, and you don't know until

1022
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: a year or two down the line how good they are.

1023
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: But given the normal ratios of hits and misses, how

1024
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: good can the Dolphins get with this year's draft class

1025
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: and what will they do to help to advance his game? Well,

1026
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: I think they're going to go out and get some weapons,

1027
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: and I would be shocked if high on their priority

1028
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: wasn't I think somebody that was familiar with TA And

1029
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: if you look at some of the guys that too

1030
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: will work within college, there's a couple of stud wide

1031
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: receivers at the top of all draft boards that could

1032
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: potentially be available for them, So that would be something

1033
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: that would be interesting to help to his progression. They

1034
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: absolutely need to get him more comfortable in this offense.

1035
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: In terms of general draft capital. Let's keep in mind

1036
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: that this year is going to be easier for rookies,

1037
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: though it's not going to be the same as like

1038
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen was it's going to be easier than last year.

1039
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: Last year was very difficult for rookies because there were

1040
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: so many questions about what was or wasn't going to

1041
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: be allowed. All this was so new to all of

1042
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: the teams. And the Miami Dolphins had the number one

1043
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: most draft capital of the rookie class last year. They're

1044
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: at number three this year. So combined the two years

1045
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: they got the number one most draft capital to spend

1046
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: in the draft over the last two years combined, that

1047
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: is going to help them more this year than it

1048
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: did last year in terms of getting rookies this year.

1049
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: That will impact them, and then bringing along some of

1050
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: those guys they drafted last year as rookies. They might

1051
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: maybe be able to make some contributions this year because

1052
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: of that strange season last year. But I think the

1053
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins are clearly on the right path. That's another

1054
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: front office that I've been extremely impressed with. Talking with

1055
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: NBC Sports ade analysts Warren Sharp also founder of Sharp

1056
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: Football Analysis, and Warren I don't know if you spotted

1057
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: this today, but Gil Brandt had an interesting tweet talking

1058
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: about the success of drafted players who run sub four

1059
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: four short shuttles and sub seven second three cone drills.

1060
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: It's pretty high in the NFL historically, he was thinking,

1061
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: and there's a good number of them in this year's class.

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01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever sliced those numbers up

1063
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: or taking a look at those. Are there metrics like

1064
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: that that say, hey, we reduced the guesswork a little

1065
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: bit if they have these measurables. I know you don't

1066
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: want to go solely on measurables. It's based on game

1067
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: tape largely, and any scout would tell you that. But

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01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: I find those numbers pretty compelling. They are compelling, and

1069
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams that look at different

1070
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: metrics and rate them higher than others and try to

1071
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: use them to kind of create a short list of

1072
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: guys that will most interest them certain gms like defensive

1073
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: ends with certain arm length or cornerbacks with certain arm

1074
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: lengths and they won't really draft guys below that. Or

1075
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: there's spark scores that certain guys look at and if

1076
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: you can't hit a certain percentile, we're not going to

1077
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: be interested in you. Three cone drills, etc. So there's

1078
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: a variety of different measurables that really do help slice

1079
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: through a lot of the question marks out there that

1080
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: teams really look to kind of make their short list

1081
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: of players that might fit what they are looking for

1082
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: the most. We've been sitting here talking about the top

1083
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: of this draft in the order, and we're going back

1084
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: and forth. We believe Brownie and I think we believe

1085
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: the draft really starts at number three. A lot of

1086
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: people have been pounding the pounding the drum that Mac

1087
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: Jones is going to go to the San Francisco forty

1088
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: nine ers, and a lot of people just don't believe

1089
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: it because he doesn't tick enough of the athletic boxes

1090
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: or the physical is that the top quarterback in the

1091
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: draft should should tick off to be drafted that high.

1092
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: But a lot of people believe he's got the mind

1093
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: for it. He's more pro ready than a lot of

1094
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: other guys. But there's two other guys in Justin Fields

1095
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: and Trey Lance that do look like NFL quarterbacks, albeit

1096
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: they may have some work to do. They've got Jimmy

1097
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: Garoppolo on their roster. Where do you believe that the Niners?

1098
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think the Niners are going

1099
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: to do? And do you agree is that that's really

1100
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: where the draft is going to begin. Definitely agree that's

1101
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: where it's going to begin. And until I hear better

1102
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: news from a more connected source, I'm going to stick

1103
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: with mac Jones. And the reason that I'm sticking with

1104
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: mac Jones is because certain people that are very well

1105
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: connected throughout the league have said that they think it's

1106
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: going to be mac Jones. And you know, they're more

1107
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: connected than I am. They have better sources than I do,

1108
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to step in front of that

1109
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: a week before the draft and suggest that it's going

1110
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: to be someone else. Now that being said, do I

1111
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: think mac Jones is worth three first round picks including

1112
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: two future first round picks? If you look at what

1113
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: if you look at this draft having occurred prior to

1114
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: this season, you would have said there's no chance they

1115
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: would be going mac Jones. But mac Jones has the

1116
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: most accurate year in college football history. He delivered great

1117
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: success with Alabama, even looked better than Tua with worst

1118
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: wide receivers out there, and TA went number one overall.

1119
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: So who's to say that he can't be the guy.

1120
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: But he just doesn't seem like he's worth that much capital.

1121
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: And I can just say this. If we talk about

1122
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and we talk about Jimmy ge and we

1123
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: know that they went to twenty nineteen Super Bowl and

1124
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: almost one they were had to lead in the fourth

1125
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: quarter over the Kansas City Chiefs, Right, we think that

1126
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: this is a playoff caliber team, a team that's close.

1127
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: The reality is this team has had losing seasons three

1128
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: of the four years that Kyle Shanahan has been there.

1129
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: And Jimmy g when he's healthy and playing well, is fine.

1130
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: He's not going to win them anything, but he's certainly

1131
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: not going to lose them anything. The problem is he

1132
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: has been able to stay healthy. So how should could

1133
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: be looking at that? But what I'll say is they

1134
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: have to hit here whoever they take. They can't give

1135
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: up this much draft capital to go and get a

1136
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't deliver. This team will have another losing

1137
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: season and will not be on track to do what

1138
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: they need to do, and it could cost the GM

1139
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: and the head coach ultimately their job if they don't

1140
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: find a hit on this pick at number three. Warren,

1141
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: I know when you guys put together your review of

1142
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: the Bills twenty twenty season, as it pertains to the

1143
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: draft this spring. And I know you've been on this

1144
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: train for a while. You've been a big fan of

1145
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: Brian Dable and the amount at which he throws on

1146
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: first down. I think it was just under forty nine

1147
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: percent the Bills threw on first and ten, which was

1148
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: far and away the most in the league. Maybe just

1149
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: for the Bills fans and the layman why that is

1150
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: such a progressive move in today's NFL If you can

1151
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: just kind of map that out. Everything in the NFL,

1152
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: especially on offenses, about being unpredictable. If the defense knows

1153
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: what's coming, you give them chips, because otherwise you're going

1154
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: to have a stacked deck of cards. You are going

1155
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: to be in really good position to have success. Based

1156
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: upon the current rules construct, the NFL has made things

1157
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: progressively over the years easier for offenses, they should have

1158
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: more success. And so when you are throwing the football

1159
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: on first and ten, specifically, you are going to be facing,

1160
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: in general, defenses that are less certain that you're going

1161
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: to throw the football there. There's a very good chance

1162
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: that you might run the football there based upon history,

1163
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: based upon down a distance in general, and therefore they're

1164
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: likely playing run sets. They've got different personnel out there.

1165
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: They might have guys that are better equipped to stop

1166
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: the run, and when you pass on that type of defense,

1167
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: you gain a massive edge. It's very different than passing

1168
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: on a third and ten, same yards to go, but

1169
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: now you're facing a defense that absolutely knows you are passing.

1170
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: So you want to be passing when the defense doesn't

1171
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: know what you're going to do. If you are very

1172
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: predictable when you run the football, or you're very predictable

1173
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: when you're passing the football, those are times that the

1174
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: defense can use personnel or play calls to gain the

1175
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: upper hand. And so the goal of the offense is

1176
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: just to keep those guys guessing, keep them on their heels,

1177
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: not sure of what to expect. That's why play action

1178
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: on first and ten and passing the football in general

1179
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: on first and ten works so much better than just

1180
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: handing the ball back to your running back. In a

1181
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: league that has evolved into what really is a throwing

1182
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: league now, it used to be run, stop the run.

1183
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: Now it's a pass and stop the past kind of league.

1184
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: In the last handful of years, we've seen year after

1185
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: year great crops of wide receiver be flooded into the

1186
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: National Football League. Last year we saw guys like Justin Jefferson,

1187
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, Henry Ruggs, Jerry Judy, a bunch of Gabriel

1188
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: Davis here in Buffalo who had a very nice year

1189
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: for them. This year you've got Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle,

1190
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: Davante Smith. Is. How does this year's crop of receivers

1191
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: and quality compared to like last year or the year

1192
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: before and maybe all times. Well, I've seen, yeah, I've

1193
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: seen reports that this year's top three are better than

1194
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: anybody in last year's class by certain evaluators. Now, Justin

1195
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: Jefferson ended up producing like the one of the most

1196
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: spectacular rookie seasons for a wide receiver I've ever seen,

1197
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: and I absolutely loved what he did. So I'm not

1198
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: going to step in front of him and say, you know,

1199
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: all three of these top guys are going to be

1200
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: better or do more than what he was capable of doing.

1201
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: But in general, we see more colleges and at the

1202
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: youth level, these guys are passing the football more. These

1203
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: guys are doing more seven on seven drills to get

1204
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: accustomed to catching the football and passing the football and

1205
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: running routes and so all of these guys that then

1206
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: go into college are better at doing that. Colleges are

1207
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: playing with more receivers out on the field. Some of

1208
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: those air raid concepts, even if they're not an air

1209
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,879
Speaker 1: raid offense, just bleed out into the rest of college football,

1210
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: and so a lot of the teams are using more

1211
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers on the football, trying to create space with that.

1212
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: Having these guys run more routes, are playing at a

1213
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: faster tempo. Playing at a faster tempo creates more plays

1214
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: in a game, which creates more experience for all of

1215
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: these players. So they've got a lot of practice running

1216
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: these routes, so they've got a lot of practice catching

1217
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: the football, and so that's eventually it has to bleed

1218
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: upwards into the NFL, and that's exactly what we're seeing.

1219
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of wide receivers come out that

1220
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: have more pro ready skills, that are ready to be

1221
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: thrown into an NFL offense and deliver at a higher

1222
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: basement than what they were delivering in the past. So

1223
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: it's an exciting time to be a fan of too

1224
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: forward pass in the NFL. It's exciting time to be

1225
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: a fan of great young wide receivers adding a lot

1226
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: of explosion to the NFL on Sundays, and we're here

1227
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 1: for it. Last one I've got forty Warren is the

1228
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: merits of trading back from their pick at thirty. Obviously

1229
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: you accumulate more draft capital, that's a plus. There's a

1230
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: good chance they miss out on the cornerback run which

1231
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: probably is going to start in the early twenties somewhere

1232
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: with all those cornerback and eighty teams, and they may

1233
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: miss the top tier of the cornerback contingent. Edge rusher

1234
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: might be different. It might be right in their wheelhouse.

1235
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: So maybe they stay right there and pick at thirty.

1236
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: But knowing the value that teams often fine between rounds

1237
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: two and four in the draft every year, what are

1238
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: the merits of moving out of pick thirty and back

1239
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: a little bit into the top half of round two,

1240
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: knowing that Brandon Bean's phone is probably going to ring

1241
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: with teams interested in getting some cost control on a

1242
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: player with the benefit of the fifty year option in

1243
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: round one. Yeah, I think that we've seen over the

1244
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: last three years, the last two players or two or

1245
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: three players drafted. I think it's like seventy five percent

1246
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: have been offensive skill players, you know, on the offensive

1247
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: side of the football, So teams generally value that fifty

1248
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: year option for those offensive players and as some interest

1249
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: in either trading up or if you stay in there,

1250
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: generally speaking, you want to go offense. So I think

1251
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: the top couple of corners are going to go early

1252
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: on in the draft with some cornerback needy teams in

1253
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: the ten to four team range at worst, So the

1254
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: top two are going to be gone. Then I'm not

1255
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: sure the guys that they were targeting at corner that

1256
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: would be available to them down near the thirty range.

1257
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: But in general, when we're looking at the analytics and

1258
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: the data that support different draft pick valuation models that

1259
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: are far different than what Jimmy Johnson wants used, that

1260
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 1: are more analytic based based upon what production teams players

1261
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: actually deliver in their first four years or what their

1262
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,480
Speaker 1: likelihood of getting a second contract, which is another important

1263
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: factor here for teams that shows that they hit on

1264
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: a player. What we see in general is that teams

1265
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: trading back win the vast majority of these trades based

1266
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: upon value that they're capable of getting. So it would

1267
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: not chock me for anybody late first round to trade back,

1268
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: especially in a year like this, to accumulate more picks.

1269
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: The interesting thing for the Bills, though, is you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Brandon Bean is focusing on this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They've got a window. That window was opened a lot

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Speaker 1: larger by Tom Brady leaving the AFC East and going

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Speaker 1: to the NFC. You've got Josh Allen still on his

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Speaker 1: rookie deal. Costs controlled. Yes, I know the CAP's going

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Speaker 1: to rise in the future, but you have a nice

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Speaker 1: window here. Taking somebody who's going to be able to

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Speaker 1: help you win in twenty twenty one could be valuable

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Speaker 1: for the Bill. So a lot of options that they

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Speaker 1: haven't picked thirty Are you a fan? Last one for me, Warren,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. Are you a fan of

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Speaker 1: picking higher in the draft or just having a bunch

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Speaker 1: more picks because you can always find great players later

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Speaker 1: in the draft, because there's so many intangibles that go

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Speaker 1: into that greatness, gene Are, what do you think is

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Speaker 1: better picking high in the draft or just having more picks?

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Speaker 1: More picks will win out almost all the time. We've

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Speaker 1: seen so many teams have success, particularly by going after

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Speaker 1: those comp picks. The free picks that the NFL gives

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Speaker 1: up when you let free agents walk and don't try

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Speaker 1: to resign them. And so we have seen that teams

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Speaker 1: like the Baltimore Ravens will use the picks they got,

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Speaker 1: they'll trade back, they'll accumulate more. Even a team like

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Speaker 1: the New England Hatred two always was winning in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: always got late draft picks, but they still remained in

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Speaker 1: the mid tier of draft value. How could that be

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Speaker 1: possible when they're always picking at the end of every round.

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Speaker 1: That's because they're doing a lot of tradebacks and just

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Speaker 1: accumulating more value that they can then spread out. Now,

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Speaker 1: they didn't do well last season, right, who knows what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do this year. But in general, having

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Speaker 1: more picks allow you to miss more often. And as

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Speaker 1: we said at the top of this, it is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a crapshoot. We're not sure what exactly

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Speaker 1: we're going to get out of a lot of these

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Speaker 1: kids that we're evaluating to make transitions to the NFL

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Speaker 1: and play on our various teams. So more picks is

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Speaker 1: generally the better rule of thumb. But it's not to

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Speaker 1: say that you're not going to hit on some first

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Speaker 1: round picks along the way as well. Warren, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the time, enjoy the draft and I'm sure we'll catch

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Speaker 1: up with you down the line post draft. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me on guys. All right, that's NBC Sports

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Speaker 1: ch analyst Warren Sharp, also the founder of Sharp Football Analysis.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter. I want to get

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Speaker 1: his Twitter handle here so I don't miss that up,

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Speaker 1: but I'll get to that in a second. But he

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Speaker 1: is it's Sharp Football Analysis. Okay, we're Sharp Football. Sorry

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Speaker 1: at Sharp Football. So he's got some good stuff on

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Speaker 1: there from time to time. And the thing that I

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Speaker 1: like is it's relatively digestible for the layman. Like if

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Speaker 1: you don't crunch numbers all day long, some of these

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Speaker 1: analytics sites, you can get really deep in the weeds

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Speaker 1: really fast and your head starts hurting. I think he

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Speaker 1: on Twitter provides it in a sensible way that is

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Speaker 1: easily digestible for the average NFL fan. That's what makes

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Speaker 1: his work so attractive. So if you get a chance

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Speaker 1: at Sharp Football is where you can find Warren's work.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break, but when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll get back to your thoughts on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: as we are asking you, just one week away from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, what's the one player you want the

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Speaker 1: Bills to draft, and what's the one player you do

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Speaker 1: not give us? You're good, you're bad, and you're ugly.

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Speaker 1: When we return here on One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalid to Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Second half of the show under way,

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Speaker 1: and we're getting back to the tweet sheet where we

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Speaker 1: want to know from you, with a week away from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, who is your dream pick for the

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Speaker 1: Bills and who is the one player you are hoping

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Speaker 1: like heck the Bills avoid at all costs. Taking your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet, and we are up to Adriana,

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Speaker 1: who says I've become enamored with Etn His speed is

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Speaker 1: perfect for our spread formations when we go ten and

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel. On the other hand, I'd avoid any player

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Speaker 1: in the first two rounds that won't see the field

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Speaker 1: right away. This is our year. If we draft someone early,

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Speaker 1: they better play. Where are you going to play if

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Speaker 1: it's not be good enough to unsee the starter? I

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Speaker 1: guess is what Adriana is demanding. You might be able

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Speaker 1: to do that at the opposite Jerry Hughes. Perhaps you'll

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Speaker 1: be up against aj Epinezza and Bam Johnson and Mario

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Speaker 1: Addison and Mario that's a that's a that's not an

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Speaker 1: easy task. Or you could take a corner and he'd

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Speaker 1: be up against Levi Waller. Is your best shot? I

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Speaker 1: think Levi Wallis and Dane Jackson. Okay, an undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent and uh about a three year NFL starter and

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Speaker 1: a corner that corner? Um, where else are you gonna

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Speaker 1: play interior offensive line? You don't see a guy that

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Speaker 1: made it, had signed a fifty million dollar contract because

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Speaker 1: of his worth, is the highest paid player at his

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Speaker 1: position in the league three years ago and worth it.

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Speaker 1: Or a number one overall draft pick not overall number

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Speaker 1: one team draft pick in Cody Ford who lost it

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Speaker 1: the season last year to injury, or a guy who

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Speaker 1: just signed a three year extension. You're gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: tough road. You can say you can out you can

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Speaker 1: out play Cody Ford because he's coming off an injury.

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Speaker 1: May maybe okay, um tight end Dawson Knox. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: think you can get a tight end, but in this draft,

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Speaker 1: there's like one tight end that can play and one

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Speaker 1: who's worthy of being in the top thirty, and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be gone at five or six. Where else? You

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Speaker 1: got me? That's it, bros Leaf, that's it. I don't

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Speaker 1: know who's gonna come in. And you're not gonna You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna play at safety. You're not gonna play at

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Speaker 1: one of these lines. You're gonna take the field with

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Speaker 1: one of these linebackers. You may have a chance at

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Speaker 1: maybe getting Taryn Johnson off the field corner. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough if any on the tweets, she says,

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Speaker 1: Naji Harris is the player I hope they draft. I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna tear it up in the NFL. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Phillips would be the player I worry about the most.

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Speaker 1: Concussions are a scary injury. One wrong hit can change

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Speaker 1: the course of a player's career forever. That's the case

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Speaker 1: for just about anybody. But I get what she's saying.

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Speaker 1: The word is and he had a shoulder thing too.

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Speaker 1: Let's not forget that. Yeah, that's that's the least of

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Speaker 1: your problems that position. But yes, it's it's always concerned.

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Speaker 1: Concussions are scary for a lot of people, players too,

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Speaker 1: because they're kind of mysterious. And but I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: they say that, and what I have heard as being

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Speaker 1: the general rule everybody's different, that if you completely heal

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Speaker 1: from a concussion, then you're no more likely to get

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Speaker 1: another one. The problem is some guys it takes five months,

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Speaker 1: some guys it takes five minutes. Every case is different,

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Speaker 1: and every cussions different for every guy. If you're not

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Speaker 1: a completely healed from that last one, the next one

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Speaker 1: comes way easier. Well, and that was the problem for Phillips.

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Speaker 1: He had three in close proximity with one another, and

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Speaker 1: that has a cumulative negative effect. And I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to be funny, but this is a story that was

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Speaker 1: related to me as being true that one of the

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Speaker 1: players that played back in My Air got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of concussions and it was really by kept coming back

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Speaker 1: and kept getting another one and get another, and he

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Speaker 1: finally had, you know, had to call it quits. And

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Speaker 1: it had gotten so bad for him that he sneezed

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Speaker 1: once hard and had and had you know, and had

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Speaker 1: a relapse. Wow. So that's how easily and fragile you

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Speaker 1: can become if you don't handle the early concussions properly.

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Speaker 1: That's what Kevin. Kevin Cobb never played it down for

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Speaker 1: the Bills in the regular season, right because he had

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Speaker 1: four concussions and then came to the Bills, played in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, got a concussion against Washington and want I

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Speaker 1: want to say the third preseason game. He never played again.

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Speaker 1: He retired. He retired, and that was after five documented concussions.

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Speaker 1: But he wasn't he wasn't right for a year and

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Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, I had heard. There's there's guys Merrill Hodge,

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Speaker 1: the ESPN analysts of running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 1: Al Tune of wide receiver for the Jets, Eric lynd Rows,

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Speaker 1: and hockey Wayne Crabet, Steve Young. There's the list goes

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Speaker 1: on and on and on, and of course these guys

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Speaker 1: that we're speaking about are still with us and still

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Speaker 1: didn't find that the long term effects have yet to

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Speaker 1: be fully really understood. But the general fact is that

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Speaker 1: when you get a guy like that and he gets

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Speaker 1: one and he's not completely healed, the next one comes easier,

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Speaker 1: it comes without as much of an impact, and then

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Speaker 1: one after that becomes even less until it gets to

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Speaker 1: the point where you can't function. So, after all of

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Speaker 1: that data, an analytic proof that first round running backs

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Speaker 1: don't have great returns on investment from Warren Sharp, we

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Speaker 1: still have fans saying, gimme et n gimme Naji Harris, Um,

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Speaker 1: how big a difference is that position? Can that position make? You?

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Speaker 1: Took a generational talent that had Hall of Fame type

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Speaker 1: of evaluations in his pre draft, in his pre draft bio,

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Speaker 1: and he goes to the New York Giants, and he's

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Speaker 1: now he gets hurt. Now he's sitting second pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft, second pick of the draft. And I was

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Speaker 1: fascinated by Warren's analytic data that said, the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of teams that draft a first round running back have

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Speaker 1: fewer wins in that running back's rookie season than they

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Speaker 1: did the season prior that one. That one got me.

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Speaker 1: That's a little startling. That one got me. That's not

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Speaker 1: only because you took a running back. There are a

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Speaker 1: myriad of other factors. But if you go into the

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Speaker 1: if you take it at face value, it's like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: if you take a running back in the first round,

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Speaker 1: you're taking a step backwards. Well, right, And I think

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Speaker 1: the reason why so many Bills fans are on the

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Speaker 1: train of let's take a home run back, so now

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Speaker 1: the running games fixed to go with the passing game

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Speaker 1: will be even better. They think the running back is

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Speaker 1: the one missing element to being a super Bowl team,

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Speaker 1: where Warren Sharp's evidence from the analytic data says, you're

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Speaker 1: not going forward, You're going backward. Right, And that's the

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Speaker 1: reason is because you're starting at the wrong end of

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Speaker 1: the equation. If you want your running game to be better,

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Speaker 1: if you think you're running back is the guy's it's

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Speaker 1: your offensive line. Yeah, it's those guys up front, which

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Speaker 1: is the position that has the greatest return on investment.

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Speaker 1: That's right, first round draft choices, That's that's where you invest.

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Speaker 1: I'm I've been on this since January without analytics, right,

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Speaker 1: just going on pure feel. Just Steve's just feeling his

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Speaker 1: way and he's got this. I'm putting my fingers out

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Speaker 1: and I am once again the one thing. I know

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Speaker 1: it's tiresome, but I'm right. It's like Charles Barkley say,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, but I doubt it. That's me right now.

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Speaker 1: With offensive lineman Thank you. Oh my gosh, that guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a sip of yeah, you do.

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Speaker 1: You do that over there. But I think that is

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Speaker 1: that is the impetus of this wave of support to

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Speaker 1: draft a running back thirtieth. Overall, I think it's only

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Speaker 1: enhanced by the fact, and you asked Warren this question,

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Speaker 1: it's only enhanced by what the Chiefs did last year

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Speaker 1: and drafting Clyde Edwards Hlaire at the end of round

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01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: one up that worked for them. They went back to

1479
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, went up because of him. They didn't

1480
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: win it, And yeah, and you're right, it wasn't because

1481
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: of him and thinking and the only reason he played

1482
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: as much as he did was because of the opt out.

1483
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: Damien Williams opted out. And not only that, listen to this.

1484
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: The reason they didn't win wasn't because he wasn't in

1485
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: the game he was. The reason they didn't win is

1486
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: because their offensive line got decimated that all of a

1487
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: sudden they can't function. That's why you draft those guys,

1488
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: that's why you go there first, not the running back. Yeah. Yeah,

1489
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: you're getting tired of repeating yourself, aren't you. The horse

1490
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: is still breathing. I'm gonna beat it one more time, right,

1491
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: I just I get it. Everybody think it's not it's not.

1492
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm gonna give you another one? Go

1493
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: ahead between Andrew. Yeah. I want running back Chuba Hubbard

1494
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. He has speed for days. I don't want

1495
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips. His concussion history scares me. At such a

1496
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: young age, it's really going to be interesting to see

1497
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: where Jalen Phillips goes. Yes, because as we heard on

1498
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: our air earlier this week, who was it that we

1499
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: had on yesterday? Who was talking about it? Um on

1500
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: the show yesterday? Do you remember? Because I'm terrible. I'm

1501
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: terrible with my memory. I don't even know what I

1502
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: had from. Yeah. Dane Brugler yesterday was saying, if you

1503
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: cleared out the medical on Jalen Phillips, he's a top

1504
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: ten pick. Yeah, but okay, so you know that. You

1505
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: know as a player, he's top ten caliber, but the

1506
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: medical knocks him down. How far down does it knock

1507
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 1: him before some and takes his swing. I think he

1508
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: gets to maybe twenty without anybody having got their hands

1509
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: on him to do a medical. He dropped five that

1510
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: you think he's out of the first round, he might be, Wow,

1511
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: why would you can't take a chance like that and

1512
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: have the guy not show up? I know, not on

1513
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I get it. There are too

1514
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: many other good players you're not taking it, you know

1515
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's a ton of other guys that

1516
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: are gonna say, you know if, particularly in the top

1517
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: twenty of this draft, there's twenty twenty five other guys

1518
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: that you can pick that are gonna be like, you

1519
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 1: know what, that guy's a pretty good that guy's a

1520
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: good player. Without taking a chance like that guy would

1521
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: have been a good player had he lined up once

1522
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: for US. I heard NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah on a

1523
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: national conference call yesterday and he said, Ozzie you Knewsom

1524
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: used to always tell us this. In the first round.

1525
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: Too many NFL gms get obsessed with hitting the home run.

1526
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with a double off the wall, right,

1527
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: And that's that's the philosophy that Ozzie Newsom subscribed to.

1528
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of gms are going to

1529
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: take that road this year. They're gonna go with the

1530
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: safest picks they can find. Because of the absence of

1531
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: medical data on too many of these prospects in this

1532
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: year's class, You're going to see perhaps the most conservative,

1533
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: surefire guy first round selections that we have ever seen.

1534
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: Because of that, I think you're gonna see that exact thing.

1535
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: Nobody is going to risk the first player they get

1536
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: to pick in this draft on somebody that they're not

1537
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: on sure about, and there's a lot of guys that

1538
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: they just can't be about. Break time for us when

1539
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: we come back, more of your thoughts on the tweet sheet,

1540
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: and then coming up in about fifteen minutes time, our

1541
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: colleague Maddie Glab to go over the latest installment of

1542
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: Mock Draft Watch. We'll see what the draft knicks think

1543
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: and if the numbers have shifted position wise. It's all

1544
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: coming up next One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health.

1545
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Draft Radio. Back on One Bills Live

1546
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker Maddie Glab about ten minutes away

1547
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: as she will bring us up to speed on the

1548
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: latest developments in the Mock Draft Watch. It's a weekly

1549
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: assignment that she nails down for us. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah,

1550
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: that's a good word. You know. The shifting and changing

1551
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: of pick one. Preferences is what I find most interesting.

1552
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: So you get Maddie'll break it all down for us.

1553
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: About ten minutes, you get these wow whatever the ones?

1554
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: Who's that? Who? We're gonna pick that guy? Why? What? Who?

1555
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Where did he play? Taking a quarterback out of while?

1556
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: South Valdosta State? What those directions? Schools? They love those.

1557
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: Northeast Oklahoma, southern right, that is awesome. Northwest Panhandle State.

1558
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: I used to live there, lived near there. Northwest that's

1559
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: a school. Yeah, Northwest Panhandle State? No way, Yeah you

1560
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: are lying Alva, Oklahoma. Oh my god. Ah, well, at

1561
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: least you know where it is. As a kid, went

1562
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: to my first college football game there. Man, that was

1563
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: so awesome. I thought those guys were gods, just football gods.

1564
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Look at these guys. Wow, we went out when they

1565
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: were kids. We'd run out on the field afterwards, and

1566
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 1: then they'd give you their chin strap, you know, like, oh,

1567
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: god of all the things, off a real helmet, you know,

1568
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: and they were like, a chin strap, who wants that?

1569
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Swe what else they gonna get? Of course, they could

1570
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: have given you gloves. They probably didn't work. Didn't work

1571
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: gloves back then, man. Gloves were actually in my era,

1572
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: they immerged that was man, what a chin strap is like?

1573
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Half a step up from a sweaty sock. Yeah, but

1574
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: it's it's not as good as a as a wrist band,

1575
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: even though the wristband's probably even sweatier. Wristbands are better

1576
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: because you can wash them. You can wear it, wash

1577
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: them and wear them. Chin strap. He ain't get to

1578
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: do that. What youre doing hanging on your door? You

1579
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: know nothing, You can't do anything. But that was so cool.

1580
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Jewelry accessory. I can still remember the stadium going in there.

1581
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: That's great, all right, just Northwest Panhandle State. The things

1582
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 1: you'll learn on this show, I think that I know

1583
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: it's something something while I'm doing other stuff. I think

1584
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: they've changed their name since then, too, so I don't

1585
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: think they exist anymore. Rachel appears to be the voice

1586
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: of reason here on the tweet sheet. I want us

1587
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: to take the single best cornerback available at pick thirty.

1588
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: There is enough depth in this draft that I think

1589
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: any any cornerback we take in the first round can

1590
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: start at CB two across from Trudavious White. Well that

1591
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: that does depend on how long the run goes at

1592
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: cornerback yeah, I mean that you could, but there's gonna

1593
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: be They're not gonna take ten him. There's ten of

1594
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: them on our thing, on our graphic right here now.

1595
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: But I'm still and I think too that there is

1596
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: enough of certainty about most of the guys on this

1597
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: list that there's one of them that's gonna be physical

1598
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 1: to fit the physical characteristics the Bills want, have the

1599
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: skill set the Bills want. Even if he doesn't have

1600
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: the the body of work or the tape, there's gonna

1601
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: be somebody who has the DNA and the physical stature

1602
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: and the skill set to have a chance in this

1603
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: defense to get on the field. And I think the

1604
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Bills know who that is more so than I do.

1605
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: And there's probably a bunch of them, but you know,

1606
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: they're probably counting on, you know, certain jac Horn, Farley, Knewsom, Samuel, Kelvin, Joseph.

1607
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: Maybe all those guys to be off the board by

1608
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 1: the time the Bills paying, but I think those first

1609
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 1: four off the board for sure. Samuel has a chance

1610
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: to be there. He's smallish eighty five. Bills tend to

1611
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:06,879
Speaker 1: like taller, longer, corner like, and how big is Stokes

1612
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,719
Speaker 1: to uh Stokes I want to say, is six foot even.

1613
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I can check that for you though, Yeah, see, I

1614
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: will check that. I like Stokes and Tyson Campbell. I

1615
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: think is this is he the smaller one of the

1616
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: two or are they both the same? Yes, he's he's

1617
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: not as uh. I don't believe. Both those guys are

1618
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: extremely fat. They got wheels and uh, I like that

1619
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 1: lafon Wu, I think from Syracuse. I think is the

1620
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: one who's kind of the the big dude that's it's

1621
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 1: got a little bit needs some work on his instincts.

1622
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 1: Stokes and Campbell are about the same size. Stokes is

1623
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: uh six foot and the change one ninety four. Campbell

1624
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: is six one ninety three. Yeah, U taking Stokes runs

1625
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 1: four two nine camp and I've seen three six and

1626
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: not like you. We're gonna talk to Maddie at the

1627
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: top of the hour. But all of these guys at

1628
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: some point or other have been mocked the bills. Yeah,

1629
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: every one of them, every different one of them. Camp

1630
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: The knock on Campbell is he doesn't get his head

1631
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: around in coverage ball skill, doesn't make enough plays on

1632
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: the ball. Now, that would seem to be something that's teachable. Um,

1633
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, something that can be corrected by good coaching.

1634
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: You know, how to get your head around on time,

1635
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. That's a that's a technique thing

1636
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 1: more than anything else. I would think he certainly has

1637
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: the athletic skill to get to a spot and get

1638
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: his head around. Now it's a matter of get your

1639
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: head around that. Is that coaching or is that a trait?

1640
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: You know? Is that something you can work and you

1641
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: can work on anything, um how, And that's where you

1642
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 1: see these guys with with holes in their game or

1643
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: problems that you see at the pro level transitioning to

1644
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: the pro level, and you go talk to them, and

1645
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: you look them in the eye and say what about this?

1646
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 1: And what do the You ask them questions and stuff

1647
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: and like like we've heard people do play paper scissors

1648
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 1: rock with them, or ask them what kind of vegetable

1649
01:33:53,680 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: they're going to be rock paper scissors to determine competitiveness. Right,

1650
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: They're they're asking him jeopardy questions and stuff. So you

1651
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: just you find out everything you can about him, right,

1652
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: and you find one of these guys who's got all

1653
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,759
Speaker 1: because all of them check enough of the physical boxes

1654
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: to have a chance. You say, okay, if he's there,

1655
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: we can take him. I can see him being okay

1656
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: on our team. But if he checks all the intangible

1657
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: boxes and maybe even hits a home run in some

1658
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: of those boxes, he rises to the top above guys

1659
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: with more skills or more of fatter resume because of

1660
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: his intangibles and the culture fit that he might be.

1661
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: So that's what we don't know, and that's what's always

1662
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: a held closely held secret by every team, was what

1663
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 1: they know about the guy's brain in his heart. Yeah,

1664
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: Steve and I step aside here, but when we come back,

1665
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 1: we'll have our colleague Maddie glab in tow as she

1666
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: brings us up to speed on the latest developments on

1667
01:34:55,040 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills dot com mock draft. Watch that and

1668
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: her takeaways from the Brandon Being press conference earlier this week.

1669
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 1: We'll get all of that from Mattie when we return here.

1670
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: On one, Bill's line presented body collid to health, It's

1671
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been

1672
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind

1673
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: of a dual role players for Steve, Steve a blimp.

1674
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: We're not even in the strated behere of normalcy. Ah.

1675
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: We're number three of One Bill's Live Thursday edition, one

1676
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: week away from the NFL Draft, and here to jalk

1677
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: pre draft preparations, final well penultimate mock Draft, among other things,

1678
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean's press conference this week. Is our own

1679
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 1: colleague Maddie Glad, who's just across campus from us here

1680
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 1: in our one Bill's Live studios. Maddie, thanks for joining

1681
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: us here on a Thursday. How are you? You know?

1682
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. There were some snow showers not too

1683
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 1: long ago started back up again, so I'm not doing

1684
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: that great when when you're talking about the weather. But

1685
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 1: the fact that the NFL Draft is a week away

1686
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: makes me really excited. I ran into Brandon Bean today

1687
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: in the hallway and I was like, hey, Bean, what's up?

1688
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, what's up? And I said, I'm

1689
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: getting ready for the NFL Draft. Let's go and he

1690
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: gave me a whoohoo. So everybody's exciting about the NFL Draft?

1691
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: How could how can they be so happy about that?

1692
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Over on your side, how's come? Your side of the

1693
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 1: building seems all happy, go lucky in ours. Over here,

1694
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: it's like a gristmill. Come on, over come on over.

1695
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: I'll bring the good vibes to you guys. Gristmill, Right,

1696
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 1: that's the first thing you came up with, a gristmill.

1697
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: All right, what's the grindstone? Let's go. Okay, where do

1698
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 1: we want to start here? I think we should start

1699
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: with Brandon Bean since that's the first thing that happened

1700
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: this week and you brought him up. So here we go.

1701
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Pre draft press conference, everybody made you know, there was

1702
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: much made about his comments on the Josh Allen contract extension.

1703
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: I really don't think Brandon broke any new ground there.

1704
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 1: I think he just kind of reiterated what he said

1705
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: for most of the offseason that you know, when the

1706
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: time is right, it'll happen. Due to the fact that

1707
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: we still aren't clear on whether there will be full

1708
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: NFL stadiums, it's quickly pointing to probably a fifty year

1709
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: option to buy some time, knowing they have to have

1710
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 1: that done two days after the draft is over. And

1711
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: he says, oh, we'll take care of that after the draft.

1712
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 1: It's like you do. The deadlines might coming up in

1713
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: a hurry. Here Brandon running up the Commissioner's office and

1714
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: sliding under the door at the last minute. So that

1715
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: wasn't any groundbreaking news, Maddie. But what else grabbed your

1716
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 1: attention from the forty five minutes that Brandon spoke earlier

1717
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: this week? I thought one thing that was interesting and

1718
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: it maybe it's not super interesting, but it was interesting

1719
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: for me to hear Brandon say this. And Brandon is

1720
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: always awesome in these press conferences. He's very open, he

1721
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 1: gives you a behind the scenes look at what's going on.

1722
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: He does a great job of explaining everything. So I

1723
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: appreciate every time we get to talk to Brandon, much

1724
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: like you guys do as well. But I asked him

1725
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 1: a question about, you know, at number thirty, are you

1726
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 1: looking for someone who's going to make an immediate impact

1727
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: and be a day one starter or are you okay

1728
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: with grabbing someone who's more of a developmental guy, because

1729
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: that's been a big part of the conversation over the

1730
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I remember when I was co

1731
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 1: hosting with you, Steve, and we had that on and

1732
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 1: Dad Brown was all about pick up the developmental guy.

1733
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be a day one starter because

1734
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: we know where this team is at and we know

1735
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: what they're building towards. In the future. They want to

1736
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: have that sustained success that Sean and Brandon talked about

1737
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: in the media conferences to end the twenty twenty season

1738
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 1: and to look forward into the offseason, and Brandon said,

1739
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: we're looking more long term than short term when he

1740
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,799
Speaker 1: answered that question. So I thought that that little nugget

1741
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: right there was interesting, which which says, we don't need

1742
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 1: someone who's going to make a big player pop off

1743
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: day one, week one and be this big, shining light

1744
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 1: and star and savior to the team. Because they don't

1745
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 1: need someone like that, They're okay with maybe getting someone

1746
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: who's more of a long term fit who they can

1747
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 1: develop over the next year, who can learn under someone

1748
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: like a Tredavious White or someone like a Jerry Hughes

1749
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: if they were to draft defense. So I thought that

1750
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: nugget was a little bit interesting to hear from him,

1751
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: and it does take the pressure off. And I know

1752
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 1: fans they want to see the Bill's drafted guy, have

1753
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: him get on the field, and have him be a

1754
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer from start to finish. But the more

1755
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: realistic picture is that they don't really need a guy

1756
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: to come in and transform this team. They were thirteen

1757
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 1: and three. Last year, they resigned a lot of key

1758
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: elements and actually trade it out and maybe and some

1759
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: people tell you trade it up at wide receiver when

1760
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: they got rid of John or let John Brown walk

1761
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: and brought in Emmanuel Sanders. I mean they've reloaded, it

1762
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: looks like, and so they really don't have much pressure

1763
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: to have a guy come in and absolutely be on

1764
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: the field on the first snap of opening day, right, Yeah,

1765
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: it's so true. And when you're drafting at number thirty,

1766
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: number thirty one, number thirty two or in the late twenties,

1767
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: you should have your roster pretty much set right because

1768
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: you had a pretty great season the year before, so

1769
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 1: you should be in a good place to start the

1770
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:41,480
Speaker 1: next season, which means you're hopefully drafting the best available.

1771
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: You're not drafting to fill any holes because those holes

1772
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: have been addressed and filled. And free agency, and that's

1773
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: one thing that Brandon Bean was asked. Alcpaccio asked the

1774
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 1: question about free agency and how resigning players like Matt Milano,

1775
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: Daryl Williams, John Feliciano helped this team out when it

1776
01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: comes into the when it goes into the draft, and

1777
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Brandon said, yeah, I mean, obviously getting these guys to

1778
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: resign and find new players to come in. We're not

1779
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: going into the draft staying we can't make it out

1780
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 1: of Day two with X y Z players. We can

1781
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:17,600
Speaker 1: go into the draft with the freedom to select the

1782
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: best available on Day one and Day two and Day three,

1783
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,560
Speaker 1: which I think is huge for this team and is

1784
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,839
Speaker 1: huge for other teams who are in the same position

1785
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 1: that the Buffalo Bills are. And then if you take

1786
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: the long term versus short term comment by Brandon a

1787
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 1: step further, you look at the positions on this roster

1788
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 1: that have players entering the final year of their contracts

1789
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison at the defensive end position,

1790
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: and then at cornerback you got Levi Wallace on a

1791
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 1: one year deal, Tarren Johnson in the last year of

1792
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: his rookie contract. So you can very quickly get right

1793
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 1: back to the perceived need positions of the Bills when

1794
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: you're thinking about that pick at thirty. The other thing, too, Maddie,

1795
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: that I found interesting and people people made a lot

1796
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: of this. Someone I can't remember who I asked the question,

1797
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: but they gave Brandon an opportunity to dismiss the thought

1798
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 1: of running back at pick thirty, and he didn't shut

1799
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: the door on it. At the same time, when he

1800
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: said that, you know, Moss and Singletary are guys who

1801
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 1: don't have that home run threat in their skill set,

1802
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: people immediately went gag on. So it's oh, etn, etn, etn,

1803
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 1: because he's a home run threat. But people forgot Matt

1804
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: Breeda is on the roster. That guy runs a four

1805
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: to three eight. What the heck is he chopped liver?

1806
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah, let's not forget about Matt Brita.

1807
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: Let's not forget about the opportunities that Christian Wade and

1808
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Antonio Williams will have this offseason as we head into

1809
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 1: training camp as well. But yeah, you're totally right. He

1810
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: did say if there's a really good player available and

1811
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: he is different than Zach Moss and Devin Singletary, then

1812
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: maybe we'll entertain that option if it's there. But yeah,

1813
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 1: let's not forget about the guy who he just added

1814
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: in Matt Breta. Of course, he didn't have this season

1815
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,879
Speaker 1: he wanted to have last year with the Miami Dolphins

1816
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: getting beat out by some other running backs who are

1817
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: definitely younger than him, But I love the season that

1818
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: he had with the San Francisco forty nine ers when

1819
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 1: he popped off, like that's the type of running back

1820
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 1: I want on this Buffalo Bills team this year. And

1821
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 1: this coaching staff is known to get the best out

1822
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 1: of the players, and maybe they can get that type

1823
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: of caliber player out of him this year. I don't

1824
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: imagine him beating out Zach Moss and Devin Singletary to

1825
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: take all of the carries, but I definitely could see

1826
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: the three of them sharing the load in a lot

1827
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: of different ways. When you talk about what our offense

1828
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: could look like in twenty twenty one, but let's be real,

1829
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna pass the ball more than we're gonna run

1830
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: the ball. That's how this offense looked last year. That's

1831
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: how it's gonna look this year based on what we have.

1832
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: They do want to run the ball better, but if

1833
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 1: we're passing it just as we did last year, maybe

1834
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: it's not as big of a concern. Hopefully they can

1835
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 1: iron out some of the things on the offensive line

1836
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 1: to set up Zack Moss and Devin Singletary and Matt

1837
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: Brida for a little bit more success than last season.

1838
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 1: All right, Mattie's it's mock draft season nine point oh.

1839
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: What are the interesting aspects that you found this week when,

1840
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: as you know, gets a little closer. We've got a

1841
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: little more rhetoric from all the teams, a little few,

1842
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: a few more press conferences to glean whatever information we can.

1843
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,640
Speaker 1: We've had Brandon Beans. What did that do to the

1844
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: mock draft and people's opinion about what the Bills will

1845
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 1: do at thirty? Yeah, So we have done nine of these.

1846
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 1: We've tracked one hundred and seventeen so far. We've got

1847
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: one more coming out next week on Thursday, so the

1848
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 1: day of the NFL Draft, So we're gonna have ten total.

1849
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,799
Speaker 1: So out of those one hundred and seventeen that we've tracked,

1850
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: I'll do kind of little house cleaning here for you guys.

1851
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I tracked thirteen in the last cry that got released

1852
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: for nine point zero. Out of those thirteen, five were corners,

1853
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 1: four we're edge rushers, two were running backs. We had

1854
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: a guard and a defensive tackle. Corners have been the

1855
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,799
Speaker 1: favorite the last couple of mock drafts that have been released,

1856
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 1: mock draft watches that have been released, so out of

1857
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: the one hundred and seventeen corners lead the pack. They've

1858
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: been mocked to the Buffalo Bills thirty times. Number two

1859
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 1: is edge rusher. They've been mocked to the Buffalo Bills

1860
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: twenty two times. Number three running back seventeen times. Number

1861
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: four's offensive tackle at fifteen times, and that number five

1862
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: is linebacker at fourteen times. So corners and edges as

1863
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 1: of late have kind of soared. When you're looking at

1864
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 1: all these mock drafts and what people think the Buffalo

1865
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: Bills will choose, it's more corner and edge rusher heavy

1866
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: than anything right now. Right, And so the guard is

1867
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: the one that I found interesting. And I'm trying to

1868
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: scroll through quickly in on Buffalo Bills dot com to

1869
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 1: see who that Wasia Tucker. I'm here. He's gonna be

1870
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:12,759
Speaker 1: long gone, I know. If that if there's a Christian

1871
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: Barmore on that list as well, I mean, he may

1872
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 1: be long gone by the time it gets to thirty.

1873
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because every right, you know, when the

1874
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 1: Bills have been picking in the late teams or mid

1875
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 1: teams or whatever between ten and twenty two, you always

1876
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 1: knew there was gonna be a really good player. There

1877
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: a really good player at thirty you kind of you

1878
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of think, oh my gosh, it's way back. I

1879
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: don't know, but there really does you do stand a

1880
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 1: chance always gonna be laughed of getting it right. You

1881
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 1: really get a chance you get You stand a chance

1882
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: of getting a guy that's like, Wow, he's really gonna

1883
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 1: help us, or he's way better than a guy than

1884
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 1: we thought we were gonna get. There is that chance

1885
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 1: in this draft, particularly if a guy like Elijah via

1886
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Tucker drops or some of these some of the other

1887
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: guys like even Greg Newsome from Northwestern, he's one of

1888
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: those top five corners. They I've seen him a number

1889
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: of times dropped to Buffalo. Um, I'm getting annoyed. This

1890
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 1: mock draft watch is giving me false hope. Guys are

1891
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm worried. I don't like this false hope.

1892
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:20,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna scar me when we get the

1893
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 1: draft play. Here's the problem, and you can speak to

1894
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: this as well, Maddie. Brownie brought it up. In the

1895
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 1: last what twenty years day average or ten years, they

1896
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: average four trades within the twentieth pick to the thirty

1897
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: second pick in the last third of the first round.

1898
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:44,839
Speaker 1: So you can't who's that? How does that work? Nobody

1899
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 1: knows what those trades are gonna be, So spin the

1900
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: wheel right up and throw it against the wall. You

1901
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 1: have no idea who's gonna be there. So that's really

1902
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: the part where these mock drafts get blown up. I mean,

1903
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,719
Speaker 1: you just lie them on fire. But if nobody trades,

1904
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: there may be a really good player at thirty at

1905
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: one of the positions that we're looking at. I was

1906
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: going to say that the big question here is do

1907
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: those five quarterbacks go super early, and if they do,

1908
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: that could do some things to the board the amount

1909
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: of wide receivers that could go in the first round.

1910
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: There's really good wide receiver depth in this draft as

1911
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 1: a whole, so you can get some great wide receivers

1912
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 1: on Day two. Same thing for offensive linemen. It's a

1913
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,600
Speaker 1: dealer's choice here with what you want to do. And

1914
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 1: I know, Brownie, I know you think that all the

1915
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: corners are going to be off the board by the

1916
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: time we get to thirty because of the amount of

1917
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,560
Speaker 1: teams that need corners ahead of us. But it is

1918
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: going to be so interesting to see what happens. I mean,

1919
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,720
Speaker 1: buckle up, because it is going to be one a

1920
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 1: long night for us, and two things could get pretty crazy. Yeah,

1921
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that teams that are perceived to have a

1922
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: cornerback need, like the Titans at twenty two, maybe they

1923
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 1: draft a linebacker, and then maybe the Jets at twenty

1924
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 1: three draft a pass rusher instead of a corner. You know.

1925
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: But even so, even if they take a corner or

1926
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: they take whatever, that's just that's one more edge rusher

1927
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: that drops to Buffalo well right now because those I

1928
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: think there will be edge rusher talent at thirty. I

1929
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 1: think there's a greater chance of edge rusher talent being

1930
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: there at thirty than cornerback talent, at least at the

1931
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 1: proper value where you feel comfortable taking. Yeah, don't I

1932
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,600
Speaker 1: mean proper values? Fine, I want value. I want a

1933
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: guy that should have gone in the top ten. You know,

1934
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. I mean, that may not happen,

1935
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: but that's I'm exaggerating once again to make a point.

1936
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: He's captain hyperbole. You want they want a guy who

1937
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: to drop who's he's like, why is this guy? Wow?

1938
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 1: You know, give you an example of what can happen

1939
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: on draft day. Laramie Tunsel, who is a standout leadership guy,

1940
01:49:54,640 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 1: solid pro, great pro, high draft pick. He dropped because

1941
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 1: somebody put a video out of him taking a hit

1942
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: off hit on draft day, So you know, everybody's like,

1943
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what are you gonna So he drops

1944
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he turns into this too, Right,

1945
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: Warren Sap did the same thing. It can happen. So

1946
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 1: you get one of those guys and you just never

1947
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 1: know what's gonna who's gonna drop into your leaven. I

1948
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: it's I don't know whether to go to bed and

1949
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,560
Speaker 1: not worry about it on draft night or set my

1950
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 1: alarm and get up and water. You're not the one

1951
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: doing the picking. Brandon can stay up at night and

1952
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: not get to sleep. You can sleep like a baby. Man.

1953
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 1: You're not picking these guys. So I know I've got

1954
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 1: a hot take on all these drafts, all these mock

1955
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: drafts that we've been tracking all right out of out

1956
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: of thee hundred and seventeen, this might not be that

1957
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: much of a hot take because we have tracked one

1958
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen of these. I think the answer is

1959
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,839
Speaker 1: there somewhere. I think someone has gotten it right. Because

1960
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: last year. Last year when we picked a j Epinessa.

1961
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: I know it was in the second round, but he

1962
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: had been mocked to us more than a few times.

1963
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: This was when he was graded as a first round talent. Yes. Um,

1964
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: So the fact that they got it right when he

1965
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: fell to us at number two is pretty interesting. But

1966
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: I think it's somebody who's been mocked to us. Okay,

1967
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I just well, out of one

1968
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen, I hope somebody got it right. But

1969
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 1: even this week they got There's there's like nine or

1970
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 1: ten that you put in the article on on Buffalo

1971
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 1: bills dot com and there's two corner, there's one, two,

1972
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: three corners. All three corners got or two of the

1973
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: three corners got mocked twice to us. Yeah right, Yeah,

1974
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 1: there's there's some repetitive names going on. Well, and Jason Alway,

1975
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: the Edge Rush from Penn State got Mark twy has

1976
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: been popular all the way twice to us. Travis at

1977
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: n twice to us. So there's a lot of people

1978
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: and a lot of mock dress were some All these

1979
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: people we've been talking about are dropping to us at thirty.

1980
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna have a shot at one

1981
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: of those guys, and they're gonna be a great player. Yeah.

1982
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: Let me just say, I hope they're going to be

1983
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: a great player. Yeah, but they are. They're gonna have

1984
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: a really good pro career. They're gonna they're gonna come

1985
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: in and help. That's and I that's interesting. Who's gonna

1986
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 1: get it the most? Right? Speaking of draft choices, Maddie, Uh,

1987
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 1: you had one of last year's draft choices on the

1988
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: latest episode of Bill's pod Squad. Without giving away the

1989
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: farm and the whole episode, why don't you give us

1990
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: a preview of what kind of ground you covered with

1991
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson. Yeah. So we had Dane Jackson on and

1992
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 1: I was excited to have him on because he's someone

1993
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: who I feel like a lot of us don't know

1994
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: too much about, right. I mean, he played in five

1995
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 1: games last year and had an interception last season, had

1996
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 1: five passes defense last season, and when he was on

1997
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 1: the field, he made an impact. It was cool to

1998
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: see a rookie like himself, who was drafted in the

1999
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: seventh round have the type of impact he did when

2000
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 1: he was on the field in his first season. Now,

2001
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't anything crazy, but I think knowing the round

2002
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 1: that he was drafted in, maybe what was expected out

2003
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,560
Speaker 1: of him was really awesome to see. And I know

2004
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 1: a lot of us who watched training camp were able

2005
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: to see some of those splashes of Okay, this guy

2006
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 1: could be good. He could make his way to the

2007
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 1: field in his rookie season, and we got into what

2008
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: he's been up to over the off season. He was

2009
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: training with Aaron Donald, so that was great to hear

2010
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 1: about how that happened. He's got a son, Dane Junior,

2011
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: who's eight months old. He was born during training camp

2012
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: last year, so got to catch up on what it's

2013
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: like to be a new dad and all the fun

2014
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 1: that goes around with that. He said he's about to

2015
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: start walking. He's kind of doing the army crawl right now,

2016
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: so your head has to be on a swivel. But

2017
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the podcast was just his backstory.

2018
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,639
Speaker 1: This is a player who has a really interesting, unique

2019
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: backstory about high school football. He played for a high

2020
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 1: school football team, and then he went to school at

2021
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: a different high school and rotated through a couple high

2022
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 1: school football teams, and that's where he kind of takes

2023
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 1: what he's learned and has shaped into who he is

2024
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 1: as a man today. He grew up in the inner city,

2025
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 1: he ended up playing football in the suburbs, so a

2026
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a culture change for him. But he's

2027
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: just got a really cool perspective on how that has

2028
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 1: shaped him as a person and kind of how that

2029
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: fuels him still today. Steve's in the wheelhouse of chasing

2030
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 1: rug rats right now. He's he's doing it as a grandparent. Yeah,

2031
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I have the energy, Dan Jackson, man for the time.

2032
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We'll catch you up with you next week.

2033
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: Draft Week ten point. Here go. Get ready, guys, it's

2034
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna get crazy. All right. That's Maddie Glab joining us

2035
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live. I'm she's probably right, you know,

2036
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: out of one hundred and seventeen draft mocks, somebody's somebody

2037
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: found the right somebody found the acorn. Yeah, and thirty

2038
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 1: is a lot harder to pick than ten, you know

2039
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 1: what I mean? Right, Like, that's right, that's that's more

2040
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 1: of a crapshoot it. But she's right. Some people nailed

2041
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 1: up in sl last year. Yeah, but they thought they

2042
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: were gonna get him in the first round. Two. Yeah,

2043
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: that's the crazy well they didn't have a one though. Well,

2044
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: that's right. That's some guys get it right and everything

2045
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 1: else could get wrong. You get that one pick right,

2046
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: It's true it's throwing darts, but you can bet. And

2047
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: here's the problem. I want to and I'm gonna trying

2048
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 1: to hit Maddie up to do this. Go back and

2049
01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: look at all and see who was the rightest, the

2050
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: most correct. Yeah, we close. We did that on Buffalo

2051
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: bills dot Com a couple of times and the numbers

2052
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 1: were so embarrassing. Yeah, shit, right, mel Kipe, somebody gets

2053
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: like two one year, mel Kiper had one correct pick

2054
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 1: in round one out of thirty two one one. It's hard, man,

2055
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: it's not good. It's hard. And that was doing like

2056
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: what does he do? Like five of them over the

2057
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: course of its hard the run up one that was

2058
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 1: rough and had was like the first pick of the draft, right,

2059
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: you get the one right? Yeah, I think that's the

2060
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 1: one he goes. I think it was the year that

2061
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 1: Trubisky trade got They traded up for Trubisky, so that

2062
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: flipped and that's wrong, you know. And then and he

2063
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 1: can't in his defense, he doesn't back then, he didn't

2064
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 1: do trades, right, So just by virtue of trades, you're

2065
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: gonna get six or seven wrong, right, because you're not

2066
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: even in the right spot with the right team. And yeah,

2067
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 1: when they the first trade, Aid throws everything heywire every night,

2068
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 1: And like I told Maddie, after the third pick of

2069
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 1: this draft, you can light them all on fire. Yeah,

2070
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: because they are going to be wrong, kindling wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

2071
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: All right. We will step aside, take a break here

2072
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: when we come back. Your final thoughts on the tweet

2073
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 1: sheet in terms of your dream picks for the Bills

2074
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 1: and the guy you'd prefer they steer clear up. If

2075
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 1: you have a name in mind, share it with us

2076
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 1: at One Bills Live on the tweet sheet. We'll get

2077
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: to those answers when we return here on One Bill's Live,

2078
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Draft Radio.

2079
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

2080
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 1: with you. Just a week out from the twenty twenty

2081
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 1: one NFL Draft and about three weeks out from the

2082
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: release of the twenty twenty one NFL schedule, which will

2083
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 1: be of major interest to Bills fans who hopefully will

2084
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: be back at full throat in stadiums not only here

2085
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, but across the league. Get all of Buffalo's

2086
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 1: road venues as well. We are discussing your dream player

2087
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: pick for the Bills in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft,

2088
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 1: and the player you'd prefer the Bills steer clear of

2089
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: that has you concern for whatever reason, And we go

2090
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 1: back to the tweet sheet, and sitting there with a

2091
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: comment is Nick who says, I'd like us to take

2092
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 1: a chance on Jason Away. He's super athletic, apparently a

2093
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 1: workout warrior, so I think the Bills system is the

2094
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 1: perfect place for him to round out his game. And

2095
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 1: we are already a great team, so if we swing

2096
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: and miss with him, it's not as big of a deal.

2097
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 1: What's the truth of anybody you pick there? But I

2098
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 1: like that we were talking in the break. I like

2099
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 1: Jason Alway, those guys and the other guy, Rousseau from Miami,

2100
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 1: longer guy who has an upside but has some stuff

2101
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: to work on. Jason Alway would come in a lot

2102
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 1: like aj Epeneza this last year, wouldn't have to be

2103
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: plugged in right away. But he's a freaking nature and

2104
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 1: I've heard guy I heard in fact, you know, we're

2105
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 1: looking at a highlight here on MSG. One of the

2106
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 1: guys who was speaking about him while they watched him

2107
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: do this is that they feel he's going to be

2108
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 1: a better professional player than he was a college player. Right,

2109
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 1: And the big reason why is because he's young at

2110
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 1: the position. If you watch him on tape, yes, he

2111
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:40,919
Speaker 1: can affect the passer, He's doing that on pure athletic

2112
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: ability and nothing else. He rushes the passer with basically

2113
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: no plan, like, what's my counter here? What if he

2114
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 1: oversets me? What am I gonna do? You know? Am

2115
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 1: I gonna go to my rip move? There's no plan.

2116
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 1: He's just out there running around using his natural athletic ability,

2117
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 1: trying to get to the quarterback. That's right, And that

2118
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 1: did he affect the quarterback at times? Yes, um didn't

2119
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: have any sacks, But that's that's the difference between a

2120
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 1: guy going on pure athletic ability and a guy with

2121
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 1: athletic ability you know, NFL traits that has a plan

2122
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: and refined technique, and that's that's the learning curve for

2123
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 1: Jason Away. So if you believe in your coaching staff's

2124
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 1: ability to develop players, and you believe this kid has

2125
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 1: the character makeup to work at it to get better.

2126
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 1: Allah Josh Allen. Then you take him at thirty and

2127
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:34,560
Speaker 1: you don't even blink. What a lot of guys have

2128
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: said about o Way is that while he didn't get

2129
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 1: any sacks, he was still a big problem for offenses.

2130
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 1: He was always around the quarterback, always getting close, always

2131
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 1: hitting the guy he hit um. I think it was

2132
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: they said the Utah game or something. He hit the

2133
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 1: guy ten times, didn't get a sack. So even without

2134
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: that production, he was a menace to the way the

2135
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: offense ran. I think he's along the line of the

2136
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: guy they signed a month ago in Faobada raw and

2137
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 1: young at the position, an enormously physically gifted guy. Those

2138
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 1: two guys are cut from the same cloth. And I

2139
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 1: think when you've got an atmosphere like the Bills have,

2140
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of confidence that they're going to

2141
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 1: maximize whatever those guys bring to the table. And here

2142
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 1: is And I asked Jane Bruglier this one who he

2143
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 1: had him on the show yesterday, the NFL draft analyst

2144
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 1: for the Athletic. I asked him this yesterday. I said,

2145
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 1: is there more of a premium placed on change of

2146
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 1: direction skills for edge rushers because of all of the

2147
02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks in the NFL. Like Gregor Rousseau is a

2148
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 1: talented player, I'm sure he's got a good chance to

2149
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 1: be successful in the NFL. His change of direction skills

2150
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 1: are compromised by his length. He's six foot seven. He's

2151
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 1: so damned long that if his initial rush is not successful,

2152
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:55,680
Speaker 1: the guy gets out of the pocket, he's got a

2153
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 1: change direction turntail and chase the guy. It's gonna take

2154
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 1: him half a second to gather him self, change direction

2155
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 1: and go. We're a guy like Alway, he's already there.

2156
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 1: Not to mention the fact that at two hundred and

2157
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 1: fifty seven pounds he also ran a four to three six.

2158
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:16,680
Speaker 1: That's stupid. And so you talk about the Patrick Mahomes

2159
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 1: of the world, the Justin Herbert's, the guys that can

2160
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 1: run around and extend plays. Lamar Jackson, Jason always almost

2161
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:28,240
Speaker 1: as fast as Lamar Jackson on a stopwatch. Just think

2162
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 1: about that for a second, Right, that's a big difference.

2163
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:34,400
Speaker 1: So if you got guys making plays off script, this

2164
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:37,360
Speaker 1: guy's gonna run him down, that's right. If he's free

2165
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,960
Speaker 1: and same thing with Obada, same thing with Ed Oliver.

2166
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Being a defensive tackle, he'll have more burst than most

2167
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:46,360
Speaker 1: of those guys, most quarterbacks, not Lamar, but you need

2168
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 1: more athletes up front and pass rushers to chase these

2169
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 1: guys down who are athletes and running all over the joint.

2170
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's, Kyler, Murray's, Russ Wilson's you go down the list.

2171
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,879
Speaker 1: You know, Deshaun Watson, all those guys you can Mahomes.

2172
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: The whole league is getting peppered with new guys like

2173
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:11,080
Speaker 1: that who can really run. And the better athletes you

2174
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 1: have up front, the more you can contain those off

2175
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 1: the script plays that tend to break your back in

2176
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 1: a game when you think you've got him on the road.

2177
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 1: The crazy thing that I didn't realize about Oway was

2178
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:23,000
Speaker 1: if you look at him, he doesn't look like a

2179
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 1: long framed athlete because he's just perfectly proportioned, just muscular wise.

2180
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 1: He's almost six five Steve, He's big six five two

2181
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: fifty seven and he ran a four three seven forty.

2182
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 1: His arms are thirty four and a half inches. The

2183
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:43,120
Speaker 1: more we talk about him, the more he's a physical

2184
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 1: anomal We need that guy. I'm starting Now he's not

2185
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: the only guy you might be getting me. I might

2186
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,240
Speaker 1: be putting the retaining bar in the roller coaster right

2187
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:57,120
Speaker 1: over me right now, strapping in to the to the

2188
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Oway training right now. There's another guy

2189
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 1: that I think has a lot to offer two in

2190
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 1: Joe Tryon, who I think will be there as well.

2191
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 1: Six five two fifty nine. Now he doesn't burn up

2192
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: to stop Watch like like oh wait does, but their

2193
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 1: ten yards splits are pretty comparable. One five nine one

2194
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 1: sixty four. He's got thirty four inch arms and he's

2195
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:22,880
Speaker 1: got meat hooks for hands, ten and a quarter inches

2196
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 1: for Joe Tryon wingspan of eighty two and three quarters.

2197
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 1: I know this is the deepest end of the gene pool.

2198
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? Here? Standing here

2199
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 1: is a five seven, one hundred and sixty eight pound man.

2200
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these numbers and I can't. I have

2201
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 1: to laugh, Like where do they grow these people? Where

2202
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:47,920
Speaker 1: do they pick? Where do they grow? Good? You always

2203
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 1: feel good? You know it's funny too, because I remember

2204
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 1: you know you you put the you put your four

2205
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:57,440
Speaker 1: fingers into both ears, ear holes in your helmet. You

2206
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 1: slip that thing on you look around and you're looking

2207
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 1: at the bottle, to their numbers on their jerseys. It's like, okay,

2208
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 1: let's go. You're guys on my team. It's fun to

2209
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 1: go out on the field with those guys them that

2210
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: you know you feel like, uh, which is you know

2211
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 1: one of the stories I tell I people's it's a

2212
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:19,080
Speaker 1: it's a common thing for when you get an old

2213
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:21,320
Speaker 1: like me and somebody is joking around with this, Hey,

2214
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 1: you look like you'd still play. Guys like me. I

2215
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 1: didn't look like I could play on my best day.

2216
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: These guys look like they could play when they were twelve,

2217
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: let alone now that they're twenty. I was reading a

2218
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 1: bio on one guy, and I'm not joking when I

2219
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 1: say this. The bio reads began playing football at age

2220
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: five in an under in an eight year old division

2221
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 1: as a running back. And I'm thinking to myself, Okay,

2222
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 1: when I was five. I have a granddaughter five. They're

2223
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 1: playing in an eight year old division and they're playing

2224
02:05:54,240 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, I know kids are generally there's

2225
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: no real huge growth spurts until you're about ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.

2226
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 1: In there, five year old playing in an eight year

2227
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 1: old division and running back. It's not even in school yet.

2228
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 1: I remember my rookie season and one of my teammates

2229
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 1: it was Family Day, was like a Saturday walk through,

2230
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 1: so the families come in and stuff his wife and

2231
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 1: his wife brought in their seven month old baby, who

2232
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 1: was at seven. And I've had a lot of kids,

2233
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of grandkids. All mine were right

2234
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:33,640
Speaker 1: around their year birthday when they were up and off

2235
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 1: the ground, walking on their own, right around their year birthday,

2236
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of weeks before, a couple of weeks

2237
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 1: after twelve months. This baby, I'll call him seven months old.

2238
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 1: Not only is he up, off and walking around like nothing,

2239
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:57,839
Speaker 1: he's months at seven months, he's like running, like striding

2240
02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 1: out for short. You know, are you joking striding out

2241
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 1: his Yeah, like running with a diaper on. And I'm

2242
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:13,240
Speaker 1: looking at his So the guy Mary, his wife, was

2243
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: a professional hoops player, okay, and he was a defensive

2244
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 1: lineman three hundred pounder who deep end was like he

2245
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:24,840
Speaker 1: was like a gymnast. I mean, he was like three

2246
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds sixty three. Well, I mean, and

2247
02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 1: you see him. He'd go down and get from he'd stumble.

2248
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 1: He'd tuck under, roll over and hop back up like

2249
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 1: it was not three hundred pounds. So I was like,

2250
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm too little. It's like Tremaine Edmonds. I mean his

2251
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: dad is an NFL tight end and his mom ran

2252
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 1: track in college. Right, that's why you got three of

2253
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,320
Speaker 1: the three of them then, and let me tell you

2254
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:50,200
Speaker 1: his dad, Farrell Edmonds, I played with in the Pro

2255
02:07:50,320 --> 02:07:54,440
Speaker 1: Bowl a couple three times. It was a giant you

2256
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 1: want to talk about meat hooks. When he came here

2257
02:07:56,520 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 1: after the draft, he shook my hand. Yeah, my forearm disappear, like,

2258
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:02,960
Speaker 1: forget about my hand. It was almost up to my elbow.

2259
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 1: I was like, nice to meet you, Please don't it's

2260
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 1: like he's holding an octopus when he takes your hand. Yeah,

2261
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 1: he swings. It's like swinging a tentacles up. Yeah, it's

2262
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:14,920
Speaker 1: his hands enormous and he's tall. He's like, we're gonna

2263
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:18,200
Speaker 1: have him catch passes. It's amazing. So yeah, these guys,

2264
02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:21,280
Speaker 1: these guys have a leg up on a lot of guys,

2265
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 1: and that's why they get to the top of the draft.

2266
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:25,280
Speaker 1: That's why they get to the top of the draft.

2267
02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 1: He's got you know, scouts guys that look like you

2268
02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 1: and me go out there with a tape measure and

2269
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 1: then they how big are his hands? They go, yeah,

2270
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 1: that's how big they are. How big is his wingspan?

2271
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? It's so one thing after another

2272
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 1: with these guys. Now I'm gonna really knock your socks

2273
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: off with this one. So we've talked about Greg Russeau, right,

2274
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:46,320
Speaker 1: the Miami pass rusher opted out this year. He's six

2275
02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 1: six and a half okay, two hundred and sixty six pounds,

2276
02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 1: runs a four to sixty seven, which is good for

2277
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 1: a guy that long thirty four and three eights inch arms.

2278
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to guess what his hand size is?

2279
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: Ten and three quarter? It's eleven and an eighth. You

2280
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:09,560
Speaker 1: could almost put a ruler. You could put a ruler

2281
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:11,720
Speaker 1: in the hats of guys that have a ruler that go,

2282
02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, man, oh man, eleven and an eighth? Are

2283
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 1: you serious? It's a tennis racket. It's the head of

2284
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 1: a tennis racket. Like a quarterback. That guy's coming at him.

2285
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 1: It's like he's holding up two frying pans to block

2286
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:30,800
Speaker 1: down your past. Do they make they make football gloves

2287
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 1: that big? That's what I want. I mean, where did

2288
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 1: you find even an eighth? Big eleven and an eight?

2289
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 1: We're ting and I know people are sitting at home going, yeah,

2290
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:46,200
Speaker 1: you walk around and it's been a gift to me

2291
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:49,120
Speaker 1: to have played like I did, no question on the

2292
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 1: team that I did for the guys that I did

2293
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:52,320
Speaker 1: in the coach and all that stuff. But it's been

2294
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:54,080
Speaker 1: a gift to me aside from that that I can

2295
02:09:54,160 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 1: go out in public and I walk around unnoticed. It's

2296
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 1: it's actually a gift. Like Jim Thurman, those guys, you know,

2297
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:10,600
Speaker 1: they're an icon They iconic. They everybody knows who they are.

2298
02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:13,280
Speaker 1: You go out and some of these guys you don't

2299
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: even know who they are. But this guy Rousseau, he

2300
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:20,280
Speaker 1: walks in. It's like they're like going, yeah, that's the

2301
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 1: first guy. Who is him? First off the bus? Who

2302
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:27,720
Speaker 1: is that? Well? You remember and ask you who are you?

2303
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 1: You remember what we had? I think we had Coach

2304
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 1: McDermott miked up during a preseason game and it was

2305
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:40,600
Speaker 1: Tremaine's rookie year and they were playing the Panthers. Comes

2306
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 1: up to McDermott. They exchanged their pleasant tries and he's like,

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Speaker 1: who's that freaka zoid. You got number who's the freak zod?

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Speaker 1: You gotta playing middle linebacker? Uh, that's an NFL player

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Speaker 1: saying that, like it's hard to impress that it's a crowd.

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Speaker 1: That's hard to impress guys in the NFL, but they do.

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Speaker 1: They And I told you my my acid, this is

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Speaker 1: when those guys start talking about people, they start whispering,

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Speaker 1: did you see what? Did you see what Tremaine just did?

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Speaker 1: Did you see that played? Tremaine just made in practice?

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Speaker 1: That's when you know that. It's like he just palmed

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Speaker 1: my helmet. It's just that's it happens, and that's it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's neat when you see somebody impress a group of

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Speaker 1: guys who are really really hard to impress. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's but it happens, and it's it's pretty cool. Some

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Speaker 1: of these measurables are just they're otherworldly. I just I

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Speaker 1: can't even It's crazy. It's crazy that where do they

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Speaker 1: grow these kids? What's in the water? You know, It's

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Speaker 1: like when you're in Little League and the mutant kid

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Speaker 1: comes up to the plane. It's like that there's no

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Speaker 1: way that kids eight, What do you mean he's eight.

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Speaker 1: He's shaving. He looks like he's fourteen. This isn't fix

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Speaker 1: this fair. This is an eight year old league. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I was usually the guy looking up at

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Speaker 1: those kids. We have to take a break. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, we'll find out what we've learned. It looks

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Speaker 1: like we got some help from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: I think he did the homework for as Steve on

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Speaker 1: the All Pros. Remember you said only four first team

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Speaker 1: All Pros for the jag since ninety seven. I don't

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Speaker 1: have good news concerning the Bills. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: that when we return. Here on one Bills Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. It is time

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Speaker 1: for what have we learned? Brought to you buy Skyworks,

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Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Got a little help here from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: The top of the show, Steve had found this and

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Speaker 1: texted it Timy before the show. The Jackson Bill Jaguars

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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety seven made one hundred and seventy nine

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Speaker 1: draft choices and have only four first Team All Pro

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Speaker 1: player namings, two of which were by Jalen Ramsey. And

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Speaker 1: I openly wondered, you know, before being and McDermott got here,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't exactly a wildly successful draft history of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give credit where it's due, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to trust his research. Ted Gore and Float tweeted

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Speaker 1: back at me and said, I found four seasons since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven where a Bill's draft pick made first

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Speaker 1: team All Pro Brian Mormon twice, Marcel Darius and Trudeavious White.

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Speaker 1: Now you've had players joined the roster to this made

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Speaker 1: first team All Pro, like digs Mario Williams, Tequio Spikes,

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Speaker 1: but they were not draft choices. So it looks like

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Speaker 1: we've tied the Jacks. Well yeah, okay, but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: get you. It's hard, but yeh, those guys still count

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Speaker 1: though the Mario Williams is in the world and all

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Speaker 1: those got Tequio Spikes of the world, and even Mormon,

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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't counter for the Jacks. I was

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Speaker 1: just trying to be fair, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's show will include one Greg Cosell every Friday, and

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Speaker 1: you be running back in draft prospect Jared Patterson. He'll

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Speaker 1: join us on the show tomorrow. We'll see you then.