WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Area 51 Broadcast Interruption 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.360 Thinking Sideways is not brought to you by a seagull 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.600 playing guitar. Instead, it's supported by the generous donations of 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:12.320 our listeners on Patreon. Visit patreon dot com slash thinking 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:20.000 sideways to learn more and thanks Thinking Sideways. I don't 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:30.680 understand you stories of things we simply don't know the 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:38.320 answer too. Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of Thinking Sideways. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.239 I think none of us listen to our show. That's 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.400 what we're getting from this. I was, I was doing 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.080 the other theme song for the show. That was a 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.200 bad version. Oh I never said I was. That's the 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.800 dumb step version of it. Okay, it was the remix. Yeah, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:06.600 the Scrilllox remix. Well, I'm Devin, joined as usual by 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:12.200 and Steve remix. No, he doesn't know how he knows 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:13.800 how to mix our show pretty good. And that's about 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:18.360 it at yeah. Yeah. Um, So this week we're going 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.640 to talk about mystery that I'm calling art Bell in 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.240 the Area fifty one broadcast. You'll sometimes see it as 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:36.440 like the Coast to Coast AM broadcast interruption caller, lots 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.120 of different stuff, and you did see Area fifty one 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:44.240 in the name here, but please know this is not 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.240 an episode about fifty one. We're going to spend paltry 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.760 little time talking about. Yeah, we will talk about in 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.919 the future. We actually we're going to do a twelve 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.160 part series. Absolutely. We actually we're gonna release over twenty 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.480 four months. We have an intern who's working under cover 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.840 there right now, and so we'll have lots of juicy 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.800 video and tapes and stuff like that for you guys. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.080 Did that just out our internal Well you didn't give 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.359 Billy's names, Okay, so Billy, no, we got to pull 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.680 him out. We gotta pull ow he's dead, alright an 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.440 oh man, No, that's a lie. But we will probably 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.000 at some point to area fifty one or at least 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.120 different aspects very fifty one. But actually, but please know 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.040 that this is not that episode. This is very specific 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.720 to a show, um and it was a listener suggestion 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:39.280 from June ish of fifteen. This person's name that was 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.960 about when it was suggested. It was suggested by a 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:47.400 gentleman by the name of Derek. I didn't actually know 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.960 it was a listeners suggestion until after I decided to 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.440 do it because I saw it on one of those 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.880 do you guys ever watch those YouTube like top Ten's 0:02:55.080 --> 0:03:00.400 Weirdest unsolved artifact mystery. I love those. They're like background 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.920 noise in my apartment. I think that before and I 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.359 saw this, I we were watching one that was like 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.440 weirdest broadcast interruptions, and I was like, I know all 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.360 of these, and it was like, yeah, got it, got it? 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:16.120 What so? And then also, before we get too terribly far, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.799 I want to give a huge thanks to Jonathan, who 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.440 wrote a seventeen page summary about every fifty one an 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.600 expert for us. He is an expert for us. He 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.720 also happens to be an actual, real life freemason. Um, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.480 if he was really a freemason, would you tell us? Yeah? No, 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.120 they I mean they're a real thing. He emailed this 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.800 picture of him with his certificate, like it's real. He's 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.240 a real thing. Uh, he's a real thing. And the 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.839 and he's a real freemason. So everything that we say 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.640 he told us, I guess with a grain of salt 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.880 because probably he's lying to us to throw us off 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.120 the track. He probably is one of the at all. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:57.000 I'm pretty sure that's true. Just yeah, and also just 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.240 as a quick aside, because this is probably going to 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.920 come up. There's a light blinking in our studio. So 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.920 if we seem a little extra distracted or giglyto that, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.920 it's it's not because we're worried about the government, but 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:15.640 it just flickering off and on. We should pause and fix. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:20.640 That's okay, we'll be right back. Okay, okay, we're back. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.640 It's fixed. Three podcasters to fix a light. It actually 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:31.080 did past light bulb answers three. Yeah. Um, well there 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:35.559 we've just solved into the mystery. Yeah, we're done, taking 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.520 a break. We'll do the next week. Guys, Fine, just kidding. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.159 What we're talking about today is a specific incident that 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:48.799 happened um in seven on the AM radio show Coast 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.560 to Coast AM. I hope that most of our listeners 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.200 are at least vaguely familiar with the show, but we 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.960 might have like a fair number of bandwagon er listeners, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:04.400 people who were just to the unsolved mysteries community. Uh So, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.760 for those of you who are uninitiated, let's talk about 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.000 Coast Coast AM for a second. Actually, we mentioned Art 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.000 Bell and Coast to Coast in our Wholes episode. Yeah, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:20.000 that's probably true. We talked about him sometimes. I like him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.599 are all about the paranormal and UFOs and stuff like that. RNA. Yeah, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:38.440 we'll talk about him in a second, but first, sorry, everyone, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.320 we had to I used to listen to this show 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.719 on my little like handheld radio under my covers. You guys, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.240 remember those little handheld a m FM radios with my 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.000 parents thought I was asleep and I was just like 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.160 huddled under the covers listening to Coast Coast AM. I know. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.679 I think both of you have at one point listened 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.719 to Coast Coast AM as well. Never like it was 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.000 just when I was a kid, I listened to you 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.800 if I listened to it, it was accidental, I think 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.520 we just before. I'm not a big fan of talk radio, 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.760 which is but I actually, yeah, I actually liked talk 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.600 radio except for the commercials, and so I listened to 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.280 it in my car, you know. But it's it's a 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.280 three minutes of talking and it's time to go to 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.680 five minutes of commercials. So I switched to another station 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.839 and I might remember to switch back. Yeah, so that's 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.159 otherwise I like it just fine. That's why I like, 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.320 you know, MPR or whatever that's like no commercials, but 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.680 they have commercials. Yeah. The goal of the show was 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:38.160 to offer quote a forum where callers would not be 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:43.279 openly ridiculed unquote for their claims. Though art Bell openly 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.600 admitted that he didn't really accept every claim, he tried 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.840 to take a kind of more skeptical view towards things, 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.159 whether or not he led on too that in his 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.320 show when he was actually interviewing people, you know, he 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.600 was always he tried to be kind of politic and 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.640 say oh, yeah, huh, and then ask questions. And I 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.720 think he was a really good interviewer really when it 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.800 come He tried. He didn't just take things at the 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.440 surface and bat him down or take a messy work. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.520 He he tried to find out what your point wasn't 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.200 how you substantiated at least in some way, even if 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.480 he couldn't get it. Yeah. I actually, personally, as we've 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.800 mentioned before, I take his style towards our podcast. Yeah, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.920 I think he might not have believed any of that stuff, 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.400 but he you know, made at least made that that 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.600 he believed a lot of it. Yeah. Well, I think 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.920 it's the open minded skeptic. Yeah, but you know there's 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.040 other guys like you know, our friend Clyde who's on 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.119 ground zero. I sometimes wondered, I've never actually asked Clyde, 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.120 and I should ask him sometimes, like Clade, do you 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.800 really believe all the stuff that because there are times 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.400 where you can tell that it's stung in cheap and 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.280 then there are times where what is going on right now? 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:53.040 And are you serious? Yeah? Really no, really I'm not 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.920 I'm serious, like you just can't tell yeah, totally yeah. Yeah. So, um, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.880 that's a little bit about Art Bell and he he 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.480 no longer does Coast Coast AM. Coast Coast AM is 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.840 still a thing, um, but he's not a part any 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.880 part of it anymore, and he in fact thinks it's 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.440 totally ludicrous now he hates it. Really, What's what's what's 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.400 going on with Coast It's a long story. And this 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.720 is not a show as um as I was about 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.080 to mention, not only is this not a show about 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.560 every fifty one, but it's also not a show about 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.640 Coast Coast a m just about this one incident kind 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.440 of we don't want to do a show about them 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.240 because then they might do a show about us, and 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.320 then we really we would be so sad. Yeah, we 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.240 would do that. Okay, So the format of Coast Coast 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.760 AM was a call in talk show plus news and 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.000 a long form interview was usually an hour long interview 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.040 and then open lines for callers to call in on 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.199 UM and then the news a little bit. At the 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.120 very beginning of the episode, there were a few different 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.840 call in numbers. They were all open lines. There were 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.960 none of them were There was no screeners whatsoever. That's 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.000 amazing to me. Yeah, it was crazy. What talk show 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.640 doesn't have screeners? Coast Coast AM. Yeah, I mean I 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.840 think they do now, and I think it's possible that 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.360 later he had Actually it's not possible. It's true that 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.440 later in the shows when he had to when he 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.600 moved overseas, they had to have screeners because they just 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.120 like the call volume that they had. It was too 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.120 expensive him to have open lines. But he did have 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.720 open lines. He would just you know, pick up the 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.839 line and hit an extension and go, okay, you're on there. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.480 Start talking about whatever you want to talk about. Yeah, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.360 I mean that that that. I've called in a few 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.760 radio talk show things before local ones, and there's always 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.640 a screener who wants to know what you want to 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.520 talk about, what your point is going to be, because 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.920 they want to give the guy the host of heads Up. Yeah. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.160 So for this one, he actually had a bunch of 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.560 different dedicated lines. He had an East of the Rockies line, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.440 a West of the Rockies line, the first time callers line, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.800 in international line, and then what he called a wild 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:59.319 card line, and then often he would introduce specialty lines 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.760 for themed callers. Usually he just took away the first 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.360 time callers line and said, Okay, the first time callers 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.880 line is now this themed call in line. Swap it 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.800 out for some other And that was the case on 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:17.120 September eleven, which is the specific show we're going to 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.920 talk about, he had opened up the first time Callers line, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.880 the number that was usually for that for Area fifty 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:28.000 one employees and ex employees specifically, so it was only 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.520 meant for those people, and he was trying. He tried, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.440 you know, as much as you can say, like, okay, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.080 well did you work there, how how many calls from 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.640 how many how many actual area you want people called 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.160 in actual or claiming? I mean, I don't know that 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.400 he there was no way to keep track of the 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.760 number of people he took calls all throughout the night. Um, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.439 I think I listened to that episode and I don't 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.079 recall him actually talking to anybody other than Area fifty 0:10:55.160 --> 0:11:00.880 one line callers before this incident. So we're talking dozens. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.520 And do I mean likely, I mean he was he 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.040 talked to I think five that night, but I think 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.160 it's likely that there were at least a dozen more 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.080 than that. Yeah, but I have no idea, and I 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:14.679 don't know that any of us know. I don't think 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.200 that there's any way to know how many people called 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.720 in on any given night because it was an open line. Yeah, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.640 you know, you didn't have somebody answering a lot of 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.400 people get a busy signal. Yeah, yeah, Okay, that's all 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.559 squared away. Now we can actually jump into the mystery. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.679 I know that are preambles sometimes annay people, but it's 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:39.840 important in this case. Yeah. So, like I said, on 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:45.320 September eleven, at as far as I can tell, the 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.480 only time Stamp I've actually heard is one am Eastern 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:56.720 Time on the twelve and art broadcasted from Arizona, which 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.480 is Pacific, which is mountain time, So that would have 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:05.199 been I think eleven on the eleventh ish. For some reason, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.400 I was taking at art bill broadcast from the Bay Area. No, okay, 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:13.480 it was Arizona. I'm pretty sure was Arizona anyway, Yeah, anyway, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.480 it was. It was the eleven. It was actually the 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.960 eleventh when he took the call where he was, but 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.120 it was late in the night. It was a late note, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.320 late night talk show. Definitely not prime time. No, definitely 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.240 not prime time. It was actually the most listened to 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.840 late night show on air when it was on air. Um, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.600 so that was pretty interesting. So around that time, he 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.800 got a phone call. As I mentioned, there were a 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.960 lot of it was the area fifty one line that 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.240 he was answering, and he had been talking to other 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.080 people earlier in the night who said they worked in 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.200 area fifty one. One guy I listened to said he 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.200 worked from Area fifty one and that he had been 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.400 ordered to call to talk about all this stuff because 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:54.880 stuff was going to come to light in the next 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.000 couple of days. And then acted very coming. It's it's 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.360 a really interesting show if you can get your hands 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.240 on it, it's really interesting to listen to. But this 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.080 specific caller called in, and we'll listen to part of it. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.079 But he called in and he was very frantic, was 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.760 upside down in a ditch and he'd been stuck there 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:21.520 for years you are. Anyway, we'll listen to most of it, 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.840 and just as a pre warning, the thing that happens. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.880 I like to keep a little mystery on my mysteries 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.760 before they drop. But the thing that happened is this 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.560 guy is frantic and he's talking about all of the 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.959 information he has about Area fifty one, and then Coast 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:42.199 Coast AM was knocked off the air, literally knocked off 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.120 the air. So this soundclip that we're going to play, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.880 it's it's about four minutes long. I do apologize for 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.240 the length of it. We try to keep our soundclips 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.600 down to a minimum, but I think in this case, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.360 since the mystery is the soundclip, we may as well 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.040 throw it in there. Okay. So the way that this 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.199 soundclip goes is you'll hear the frantic caller, and then 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.240 you'll hear dead air for a little while, and then 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.240 you'll hear the theme song starting. Because as I said that, 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.920 it was totally not chops up, and then it goes 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.320 completely silent, and then it's a little silent and then 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.240 a little silent, and then it starts up again. It's 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.840 edited down the silence in between from what people actually 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.080 heard that night and so, yeah, so the show was 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:24.720 off the air for how long? I believe it was 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.040 about a half an hour. They went they the station 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.360 cut to archive some other show. I can't remember what 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.240 it was off the top of my head, and then 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:34.960 Art Bell picks back up. But I think it was 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.520 about a half hour that they were down for um 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.400 and I think that it took them that long because 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.680 part of the problem was Art didn't know that they 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.760 had been knocked off the air. It's not like you 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.480 have a thing that you know started the red light 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.760 didn't turn off. Yeah, I mean, you know, he was 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:53.520 in a sound studio room basically a soundproof room that 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.000 you would be broadcasting from, and you know, all the 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.120 transmitters and everything are in a different room. You don't 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.920 want that in there with you because it makes noise. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:01.760 So he had to actually get up out of his 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.560 chair to see, oh, we're not broadcasting anymore. I don't 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.040 even have the transmitter there. It's a satellite feed right, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.400 They had a transmitter in the other room to translate 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.560 to transmit the feed out. And actually a network representative 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.640 called him and was like, hey, your shows off the air, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.280 and he was like what, But he'd been taking calls 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:25.360 and if he had an engineer. Yeah, So it was crazy. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:26.760 So it took them a little bit, and then it 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.680 took them a little while to establish a backup for everything. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:30.960 So it was about half an hour as far as 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.600 I can tell. So, yeah, we'll listen to this thing 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.920 and then we'll pick you up on the other side. Line. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:41.840 You're on the air, all hello, Yeah, I don't have 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.720 a whole lot of time. Um, Well, let's begin by 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.600 finding out whether you're using this line properly or not. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.880 Where are you an employee or are you new a 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.160 former employee, former room. I would let go on a 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:05.840 medical discharge about a week ago, and and I've kind 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.920 of been running across the country. Um man, I don't 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:13.680 know where you start. There. They're they're gonna, um build 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.640 triangulate on this position. Really released soon. Um. You can't 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.240 spend a lot of time on the phone, So give 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:24.600 us something quick, okay, um um, okay. What we're thinking 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:30.440 of as as aliens are there? Uh they're they're extra 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:38.000 dimensional beings that an earlier precursor of the Space program 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:42.600 made contact with. Uh. They they are not what they 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:49.720 claim to be. Uh. They have infiltrated a lot of uh, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.160 a lot of aspects of of of the military establishment, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.600 particularly the area fifty one. Uh, the disasters that are 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:03.120 coming made, but the military, I'm sorry that the government 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:08.680 knows about them. And there's a lot of safe areas 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.359 in this world that they could be in moving the 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.840 population to now are but they're not doing They're not 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.520 doing anything. They are not They want the major population 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:27.159 centers wiped out so that the few that are left 0:17:27.280 --> 0:18:22.359 will be more easily controllable. This chart I started getting 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.199 in some way. Something knocked us off the air and 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.520 we're on a backup system. Now it's a government or 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.920 I don't know. It has to be something though, Well 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.880 did you hear now you'd tell me because you were listening. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.920 That was awful strange. It was a really weird guy 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.840 on the air when it went off. Ye, real weird, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:59.879 oh like going sort of sort of stunning paranoids etronic 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.240 like crying and everything. Yeah. Yeah, And how far into 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.560 the conversation was it when when it went off, just 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:11.879 a couple about fifty I didn't say you guys missed? 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.159 Were you really missed a call in? And I've got 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:19.240 a feeling somebody who didn't want you to hear it. Yeah, hey, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:24.160 guys were back. Jesus, what a trauma, queen. No, I mean, yeah, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.880 but no, but yeah, but you seem rather upset. Yeah 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:32.240 he did, didn't he frantic? Even frantic, even frantic color ye. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.159 Art does go on to say that in all his 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.720 years in broadcasting, he had never heard of anything getting 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.880 knocked off the air like that, And as far as 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.480 I know, that's the only time in the thirty one 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.040 year history of Coast Coast a M that they have 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.480 been knocked off the air. So it's a pretty big 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.480 deal that they just disappeared from the airwaves for a 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:59.280 little while. By the way, did Art bells the studio 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.760 did they didn't re toward these calls? Did they know? 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:06.040 They didn't? Yeah, I think because it's a live broadcast, 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.520 so I don't know if they I don't know how 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.240 they were trapping it at that time. I don't know 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.440 if they were recording in studio or if they had 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.719 somebody else like recording the transmission or what. Because they 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.480 don't I would expect, I don't know. I'm presuming Joe 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.880 that you're asking that to see if we can if 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.359 there was some way to get the conversation up until 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.600 the point aren't realized he was cut off. Is what 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.679 you're after? Yeah, and it said, what we have is 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.080 what it appears most of the stuff online is what 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:38.040 listeners had recorded themselves. Yeah, okay, and so and did 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.600 Arn't Bell ever say how long the conversation went on 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.480 for after it got cut off? He said, a couple 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:48.320 of minutes. Yeah, And this was the interesting thing about this. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.560 What let's keep going a little bit and we'll talk 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.760 a little more about what aren't because then what we 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:57.800 know about this broadcast according to only one report. So 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.359 this is the information that you're looking for. And it's 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.360 since there's only one report, and I can't I really 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.800 can't substantiate this at all, but it's probably worth mentioning. 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:07.960 But take it with the hugest grain of salt you've 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.600 ever seen in your entire life. When the transmitters went dead, 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.840 Art switched to a digital line for transmissions, but shortly 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.600 after this his analog phone lines went down um and 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.960 they weren't able to transmit for this half hour time frame. 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:29.119 Apparently the caller had continued for uh about a minute 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.440 is what they said, and then screamed and the line 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.440 went dead. And this is all according to a website 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.280 that says it's according to a Penthouse reporter who happened 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.800 to be in the studio doing an article about the 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:46.040 show on that night. I have looked for, I have searched. 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:51.280 There's no such Penthouse article on Coast Coast AM as 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:55.320 far as I can tell, Penthous some clean work. I mean, yeah, 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.240 but I just mean that I was searching through everything. 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:03.920 I was looking for the articles, looking through the article. Yeah, 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.040 but I didn't. I couldn't find anything to substantiate that 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.879 there was, in fact a Penthouse reporter. I couldn't find 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.879 any sources for this information other than this, you know, 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.400 mystery Penthouse reporter. So I don't know that I necessarily 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.040 believe it. But apparently according to this same source, Well, 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.359 the only thing I'm gonna say about that is just 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.120 just because this guy is in the studio doesn't mean 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.879 he's writing a piece. Well, apparently he was in the 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:30.080 studio to write a piece about Coast Coast AM and 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:34.960 started taking notes like feverishly when the feverish caller called in. 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.760 And there's also we've got to keep in mind that 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.080 as a journalist, you start and work a lot of 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.160 stories cut. Yeah, but that's the only thing I want 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:48.199 to say it. I mean, whether it's Penthouse, Playboy or 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.639 The New York Times, if it's a reporter in the 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.399 room and it gets caught, we would that would explain 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.160 why we don't see it. I'm not I'm not saying 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.600 that I think that this guy was really there. Well, yeah, 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.520 because I guess in my my brain if you had 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.520 the inside scoop on something like this, Hey, this radio 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.080 station got knocked up the air in the middle of 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.479 this really frantic call, and I have the notes and 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.679 was there and heard the rest of the conversation that 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.920 nobody else is talking about. Why wouldn't you just release 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:20.520 that lure out of it? Okay, but yeah, yeah, take 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.600 the lure out. It's like they got knocked off the 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.240 air and totally sucked its screwed my story totally up. 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.240 I'm not doing this, that's true. Well, I never know. 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.280 Since this became a big thing, you think he would be, 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.960 you know, sort of motivated to publish something about what 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.120 you hear that cut off a carriage, you would think 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.920 that the thing about it is is like the area 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:40.679 if you want guys are sure are like you know, 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:45.600 just mercilessly efficient. But tracing the phone call and getting 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.280 a black helicopter to the spot where the guy is 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:52.280 and murdering him within five six minutes is remarkably efficient. Yeah, 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.680 he does say that they're going to triangulate his call 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.560 really quickly, but we'll talk about that. We'll talk about 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:02.600 that in the theory section. Okay, the this same weird 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.320