WEBVTT - Avengers: Doomsday Trailer Reactions 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:00.520 Warning. 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.840 Today's episode we'll contain no spoilers. We're gonna be discussing 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:10.600 the Avengers doomsday trailer. Spoilers for a trailer question mark 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:16.360 so spoilers I guess for MCU properties leading to Doomsday 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:36.600 potentially m hm, you warn't. Hello. My name is Jason Concepcion. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:38.280 Hello, I'm Rosy Night. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.479 And welcome back to xt Revision, the podcast where we 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.519 dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.440 culture company from i R, where we're bringing you three 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:45.520 episodes of week clos news. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.320 On Saturday plus news. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:52.240 In today's episode, Doomsday is finally he are the first 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.560 proper official. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.440 All in one Avengers Doomsday trailer. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.480 It is a lot of what we heard from Cinema 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.400 com but we are gonna be talking about it because 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.560 there is a lot happening this week. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.679 I have a production note for you. Guess what. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.119 It's a good one though, because you're getting more episodes 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.000 than usual. So on Wednesday we're getting X Men ninety 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.800 seven episode six. On Thursday, it will be an Odyssey 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:24.520 round table talking about that discourse starting epic. On Friday, 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.040 we'll have a new edition of Impending Doomsday, and on Sunday. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:35.240 You're gonna get our fresh comic con news. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:43.840 Okay, folks, let's welcome our Panales today, joining us our 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.000 super producers Aeron Erin, how are you. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.319 I'm doing great. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.240 I'm excited to hear your thoughts on this newly released 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.720 multi million view count trailer that has just come out. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:02:00.360 End super producer ian Ian how are you great? 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.280 Yeah, excited to get into it. This is the day 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:06.040 we've been waiting for for It feels like a million 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:06.600 year so. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.360 Wite a while. Okay, So it is Monday, July twentieth, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:17.160 ten am, ten thirteen am to be precise. The Avengers 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.480 Doomsday trailer was released this morning. Earlier this morning. It 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:25.880 is already at over a million views, one point three 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.640 million views, so that's in about and a half hours 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:34.360 ten million, so using the x ray vision YouTube views 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:39.760 predicts box office corollary, this is looking like a monster, folks. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:46.120 The trailer does follow the general shape of the trailer 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:53.480 that was reported at CinemaCon, and let's let's discuss. First 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.320 topic to discuss. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:55.799 Is that. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.960 The voice, Oh yeah, I was gonna that down yet 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:00.680 doing doom? 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.480 Yes, I think it's I'm yeah, and I think it's 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.400 good that you brought out, because that was the biggest 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.040 question in the discord. Ryan Gilman asked it. Third Place 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.799 asked it. Lizen asked it. Who is it? I think 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.840 it's Doom, which offers up the first question. Doom comes 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.080 to them, at least partially as an ally question. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.360 I think I think that that I think that that 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.880 will be the case. I think it will be something 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:32.520 like I've come to stop these incursions, only you can help. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.760 Me, which is basically what he says is there's this 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:36.960 huge threat. It's coming and we're gonna have to make 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.440 a terrible decision. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.240 Which is probably kill lots of other worlds to save 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.640 the real one. But my, what do we think? Which 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.840 what do we think of of the Latviarian accent? 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:53.440 I have? 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.960 My initial thought was I think it's smart that he's 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.480 not doing voice, because I think that would be confusing. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.200 But what are our thoughts, Rosie, what. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:03.640 Do you think? 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.800 I do agree. I generally think it's good he had 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:07.360 an accent. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.800 I do think it's funny that pretty much all over 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.320 the Internet and in discord, the big argument is like whether. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.920 It's Wong or whether it's him. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.160 So I feel like maybe he didn't differentiate it was 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.360 potentially I had seen a lot of people saying it 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.880 was wrong. I love a silly accent. I think it's 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.440 good that RDJ is doing this. I think it's nice 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.960 to know that this isn't some kind of Tony version 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.400 or like alternate Tony version, at least not in the 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.440 way that some of us guessed it would be. So 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.520 I think it's good he's doing the accent. Is it 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.400 a bit silly, yes, But is the idea of Robert 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:42.760 Danny Junior playing Doom silly? 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.040 Also? 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:47.839 Yes, Aaron, I mean I think the accent sounds fine. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.680 What excited me more was the placement that they had 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.680 a trailer and the first thing you hear is RDJ, 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.400 and you immediately see him in the Doune outfit or 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.719 Doom outfit. So instead of like us, spending the whole 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.920 trailer focused on the heroes, and then at the end 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.599 one quick shot of Doom and he says one line, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.920 we get like a mini monologue from him. I think 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.360 that's a great way to start it off, and we 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.080 immediately see this character we've been waiting for with bita 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.640 breath and here, and we immediately have questions, why is 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.000 he coming to them with this message. Is it like 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.120 this made up accent lat Verian like, which world? Is 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.880 this a part of all these things? I thought it 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.159 was an incredibly well placed thing. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.080 Yeah, I I agree with a lot of what Aaron 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.320 just said. I like the accent. I think it's I 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.360 think to me, it was pretty obvious that it was 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.480 RDJ doing like his Latverian doom like voice. So I'm 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.359 like kind of surprised that people are confused by that 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.520 or think is long. That's a little weird to me. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.919 But I like that he's doing something different and differentiating 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.039 from the Tony Stark normal RDJ voice cadence. And I 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.520 think for something like this you need to differentiate a 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.640 little bit. I think it's giving him a little more 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.000 room or freedom to do something a little more fun 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.719 and a little more silly, be a little different. And 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.560 I agree with Aaron's points that starting the trailer with it, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:12.320 hitting it right up top and establishing the the character, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.160 because that's the thing that most that we're most interested in, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:16.839 like what is his doom going to be? 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:17.040 Like? 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.799 What's it going to look and feel and sound? 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:18.960 Like? 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.200 How is how is he going to bring his own 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.200 spin to the role. So I think leading with that 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.880 was a smart way to do it. And I like 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.479 the accent. I think it sounds different enough from his 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.880 normal voice yea, and distinct enough that it's cool and interesting. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.800 So I'm a fan also that. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.279 I liked it. I liked it. I liked it as well. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:43.200 I I think the idea that you didn't I actually 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:49.279 think the was it wrong question kind of proves that 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.920 this was kind of a good idea. You don't want 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.640 to be like, oh, it's Tony. Is that Tony? He 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.440 Maybe he's a Tony variant, Like it leaves open the 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:05.800 ambiguity of whether or not this character is or is 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.760 not a version of Tony, whether Tony is a version 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.000 of Doom in the MCU universe. So I think that 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.280 that was smart to do. This could be a completely 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:21.920 different guy. We don't know that it is, and you know, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.880 like you could tell our DJ was having fun with it. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.680 Now it seems as if the main character is thor 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.720 or is going to be the through line character, at 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.000 least the one who's like, I've seen this threat coming 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.640 and we need to do something from the hero's side, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.120 did we? What did other people think? Is that the 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.160 feel that we all got. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.440 I agree that that is where they're going. It seems 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:48.200 to make sense. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.080 But I will say I do think this is one 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.400 of their mistakes, not because I don't love Chris Emser 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.080 thought I love him, but I do think that this 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.880 is where than me we immediately get like a very 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.400 clear repeated beat from the Infinity or endgame stuff where 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.200 it's like, this is the sad, broken down Thor who 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.640 doesn't think we can do it after he's been defeated 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.800 by Thanos. Like, I think that's not my favorite version 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.760 of this Thoor, but I think Chris Emsworth does it 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:13.360 very well. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.840 I think there is a lot they're not showing us 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.160 with this trailer. That's my gut. That's my gut feeling. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.080 So but I do feel, like Jason, You're right, I 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.600 think they're going for this through line, and I think 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.760 it is going to be Thor. But I have seen 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.120 people online and even in our discords kind of saying 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.400 it feels like a nerved version, like we want to 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:33.160 see Thor. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:33.880 At his peak. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.120 Aaron, what did you think about the return of this 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.280 kind of more somber, serious Thaw. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.880 I think, like God forbid, we revisit one of our 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:49.360 favorite movies with Infinity War and Endgame, where Thor like 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.840 is a little more grounded and sad because of the 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.760 threat that is posed to revisit. That I think means 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.280 we kind of understand the stakes quickly. We don't have 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.880 to spend all the day time of like I mean, 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.880 Thor again delivers a quick little monologue saying, I have 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.960 fought with all these warriors against all these threats. They 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.720 my friends and other heroes have died against things I 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.800 am much less scared of than this one threat. And 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.160 then we get the visual of him leaping into the 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:22.280 air like full on, you know, God, Thor crashing in 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.960 and doom stopping it with one or two fingers Like 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.760 that's that to me set the stakes very very well. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.960 Thor is a constant within the MCU, and I think 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.080 a good choice to be sort of our our audience 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.120 surrogate at least for this trailer, if not the entire movie. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:43.640 Mm hmm, Ian, what your thoughts on Thor is potentially 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:44.280 the main guy? 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:46.679 I think I like it. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.400 I think after Love and Thunder that a lot of 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.160 people did not like that movie, and I think it 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.320 kind of undid a lot of the strong character work 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.560 that we got in Ragnarok, Infinitiord Endgame for Thor, and 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.200 so I feel like this feels like a little bit 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.800 of a course correction, bringing it back a little more 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.480 grounded serious. His Chris Hemsworth is a really incredible actor, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.720 and I think he has the ability to go comedic, 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.120 but he also has this, you know, the gravitas of 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.280 this like strong Thor role, and I think it just 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.520 feels like a little bit of a course correction back 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.080 towards that. And I also think it kind of makes 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.760 sense for him to be the through line character in 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.880 the sense that he has, you know, the relationships with 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.439 all of our heroes and the Avengers and has faced 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.920 these past threats. But also we know Loki is probably 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.240 going to be a very prominent part of the plot 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.240 line and the TVA aspect of it, and so obviously 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.559 that relationship between Thor and Loki, especially with what happened 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.720 in Endgame, I think, is going to be a really big, strong, 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.680 emotional beat or core of the movie. So I like 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.360 the idea of having him, at least from what this 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.040 trailer appears to be setting up, be kind of the 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.200 through line connecting character for that. So I think it 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.360 makes sense, and I think it will could lead to 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.319 some really you know, powerful emotional moments. So yeah, I 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:08.839 think it's it's an interesting angle. I think they could work. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.199 We see some X Men in this, We see Charles 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:26.240 doing his classic Charles I'm my oh, my head, and 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:31.719 so that's obviously for a pair of X Men fanatics 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:36.600 like Rosie and I like that was huge. But now 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.040 let's I feel like this is the central question. Is 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:45.160 this trailer good? Did it do enough? Did it do 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:51.280 enough to dispel some of the concerns and kind of 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:57.640 like unsourced rumor based critiques about kind of a you know, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:02.440 a chaotic production that is at this point formless. Did 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.800 it do enough to shoot that stuff down since the 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.920 debut of the original trailer at CinemaCon some months ago, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:10.880 or did it not do enough? 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:11.400 Rosie? 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.440 Did it do enough? Is this trailer good? 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.840 I personally, I do not think it did enough, But 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.720 I do want to say, you know, we watch this 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.640 trailer dropped to like six am, I think Pacific time. Yeah, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:29.559 and you know, so on I woke up and there 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.640 was a lot of talk about it, and I watched it, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.520 and I think for me personally, it definitely did suffer 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.720 from the fact that we just follow this stuff so closely, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.400 and you know, I knew people who were at the 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.440 cinema companel I read the report. You want to know 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.040 what the trailers are like. So I think for this 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.720 this did suffer a little bit from the fact of 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.840 over familiarity because of how long it's taken them to 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:54.400 put it out. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.400 One thing I cannot deny. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.080 Did it stoke excitement for this movie in a way 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.080 we have yet to see. I think that is undeniable 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.920 whether or not I felt that. And also like ten 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.319 million views in like four hours, right, four and a 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.240 half hours, and it's see and it's probably gonna keep 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:12.080 growing like it. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.880 I think it had already hit a million within thirty minutes. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:15.440 Thirty minutes. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.319 Yeah, yeah, so it was this is I think excitement 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.319 wise the release of it. I think the poster is 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.280 beautiful that they sent out with it, this kind of 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.959 painted poster of Doom in front of this tapestry obviously 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.640 about his family who are going to be a key 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:29.800 part of this, But for. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.000 Me personally, like do I think it pushed. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.600 Me over to thinking like this is gonna be the 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.560 movie that saves the MCU like no, I think it's 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.160 falling back on safe bets, but there's a lot of 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.520 fun stuff that was exciting, like Gambit, Shanchi, et cetera. Aaron, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.560 I want to make sure that you are the one 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.160 who condemns me. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.440 I think this is a great trailer. This trailer does 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.560 everything that I wanted. Like I said of top, it 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.480 sets up doom right away. We see and hear doom. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.640 We see the costume, we hear him, we see his eyes. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.560 Ian was mentioning like Thor. His vibe is less comedic 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.920 than he was in Love and Thunder. People always complain 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.360 that MCU movies throw in these little quips, like we 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.400 have an emotional scene, then we get equipped. There are 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.560 no quips here. There's no like it was, you know, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.760 there's no Thor like Ah. I like this one when 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.160 Captain Marvel shows up, like this is devoid of that 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.920 sunny disposition. This feels like a dark movie. And like visually, 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:34.040 I love seeing the new outfits like Shrey and Naymar's 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.080 new costumes look great, the Fantastic Four with the jackets 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.400 and everything. Cyclops like seeing it in action. We really 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.560 only I think there's one scene that we had already 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.320 seen with Cyclops and the like the extreme optic glass 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.480 in front of the Sentinels. That was the only thing 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.280 that felt like I'd seen it before. And you know what, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.960 like does it feel big? Yes, this movie feels huge, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.240 Like I can't tell you. Every time a character showed up, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.960 I was like, I cannot wait to see more Shank, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.240 I cannot wait to see Nay more flying around doing whatever. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:08.160 And like when when Thing and Sue and Bucky like 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.840 arrived to meet the Wakandans, there's like the suspended sea 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.760 wall in the background behind them. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.120 What is that? Like I want to know about that? 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.200 How is that happening? 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.960 There's so much here, And like the Jolena versus Julena 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.280 fight because Mostique has turned into Yolena, Like yeah, I 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.400 love the pairings the Gambit shang Chi thing, Like it 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.440 feels like we're getting one of the problems with Avengers 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.760 movies and just Avengers teams in general. Hulk is fighting 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.760 a much different fight than Hawkeye at any given time, 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.080 Like there's no way they can be like measured by 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.800 the same thing, and doing a Ylena verse Mystique and 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.200 a Gambit ver shang Xi. It makes me feel like, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.400 we're gonna get a really good use of these characters 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.560 again fighting appropriate battles and it's not right. And I 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.400 think that's a great way to handle a large ensemble. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.720 And I'm telling you, as I saw more and more people, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.960 I was like, I can't wait. Like there's a quick 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.640 shot of Johnny hugging and kissing the head of some 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.080 blonde woman. We assume it sued. Did something happen, Like, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.640 I don't know. There's a lot of things in here 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.400 that I got very excited about from an ensemble side 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:12.840 of things. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.480 So I think it's a great trailer. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.920 I love to hear that Ian your is this trailer good? 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.120 I have to agree with Rosie that, you know, I 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.720 think I'm just too industry pilled and like too thirsty 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.640 for content, because you know, after the CinemaCon trailer came out, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.080 we heard the descriptions add nauseum, what's in the trailer? 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.360 What's in the trailer? And so when I watched it 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.160 again this morning and it's exactly the same as the 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.160 descriptions that I've heard and read from three months ago, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.840 I was like, Oh, that's like kind of it, but 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.960 I know that's like that's more on me than. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.840 I'm sorry, I'm sorry you peaked at your Christmas presents 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.400 early and then are disappointed you. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.640 That's on me. I just admitted it. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.200 I said, that's the one who unwrapped them and showed 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:58.960 them to us. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.000 Like that's the exactly at all. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.360 But that's They also said, like, by the way, you 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.800 got an Xbox for Christmas, it's in the closet, don't 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.080 look at it for three months. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.399 They told me that in October. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.160 You know, they leaked. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.200 They knew the people were going to describe the trailer, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.359 and they knew people wanted to see it, and it's 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.960 been ready for three months and they didn't change anything. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.080 That's a little that feels like kind of a generational 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.200 exercise in hubrist to me, a little bit on their part. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.639 They feel like the movie is so good that they 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.080 don't need to give us anything. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.720 How I mean, I have no idea whether or not 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.520 they change anything. I wasn't at CinemaCon. I didn't see 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:40.080 this trailer. This is my first time seeing Mystique again. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.960 This is my first time seeing Gambit fighting shan Cheet, Like, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.080 what what did they do wrong that I'm now not 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.160 excited about seeing the Ten Rings? 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.639 Again, we love that you are excited. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.760 Yes, I'm I'm still excited to see the movie. I'm 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.960 still going to see the movie, I guess, just the 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.919 trailer didn't change how I felt. Well, I'd feel the 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.919 same after watching the trailer I felt before, like I 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.160 still want to see the movie. The trailer didn't give 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.960 me anything else to get excited about, I guess. So 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.000 saying all that to say is like, for your general 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.280 average person who's not online checking all this stuff, yeah, 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.400 I'm sure this trailer is like hype and it's incredible 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.480 and it's amazing. But for people in our situation, which 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:24.520 I know we are in the very small minority, it 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.960 didn't change the way I felt about the movie. M 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.240 and it was bordering on it was a little underwhelming. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.080 But that's again more my fault than Marvel's, just because 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.919 I knew what was in the trailer already, so it 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:36.920 didn't give me anything that I didn't already know was 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.080 going to happen. You know. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.600 Okay, here's I'm kind of like in the middle of 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.320 all of you. I think the trailer did just enough. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:45.320 M hmmm. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.480 I think it did just enough. But to Aaron's point, 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.600 I also have to check my perspective, because here's the 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.840 things I wanted. I wanted a little bit more than 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:03.000 what the CinemaCon report said, which we didn't get. We 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:08.560 basically got the CinemaCon version. It seems like I wanted, 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.520 you know, a little more of the and I'm sure 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:15.800 we'll get this in later trailers, by the way, but 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:21.159 I wanted more of the personal journey of whoever the 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.320 focus is, Like, what has Thorpe been up to? Why 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.600 is this time different? Why is this threat bigger than Thanos? 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.159 Why is he so scared and upset? Like just a 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.400 line about I've been doing this or I lost this, 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.000 and I think, you know, I think that would have 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.480 done a lot for me. I want to know how 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.120 to Rosie's point about duplicate beats, there are a lot 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.800 of duplicate beats here, whether it's Steve pulling the hammer 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:54.000 or just the way thor talks about the threat of 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:58.600 doom that honestly, you could lift that and drop it 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:07.040 in Infinity War or Ragnarok and it could be about Thanos, 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.960 which led me to wonder, like, Okay, so how is this, 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.959 How do the events of Endgame lead to this? How 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.119 does how did this great victory lead to this. I 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.119 want to know that and not having that connective tissue 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.879 some hints, some gesture towards that connective tissue in there 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.680 in there felt like leaving something on the table. Now, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:35.840 that said to Ian and Everyone's point, like, you know, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.040 I've I've seen all the movies, I've read all the comics, 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:43.159 I've seen all the movies multiple times. We follow all 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:47.120 the news drops. I've been, you know, checking Marvel leaks 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.000 like every day. I like kind of know what the 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.879 various leaked versions of what are reported to be the 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:58.200 movie are. And there is an entire generation of fan 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:04.800 that this Marvel is hoping will be their first Marvel movie. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.800 Like that's the hope, right, Yeah, there's an entire generation 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.800 of fan that is that has is like this shit's old, 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.240 this shit is for elder millennials or whatever. I don't 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.120 give a fuck about it. And the hope is that, 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.399 like Marvel can get them in on the ground floor 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.920