WEBVTT - THE CHOSEN: Season 3! 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:08.240 Hi there. I am so excited about today's podcast. I 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.319 can't even tell you. There are a few things I 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:16.200 have done professionally that I am as excited about as 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.759 our Love Someone with Delilah podcast today. It is an 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.520 episode that is extra special and extra special treat for 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.320 all of us. I was recently invited to join cast 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.760 and crew of The Chosen, the multi season streaming TV 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.479 series about the life of Jesus of Nazareth, and I 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.080 got to go to their brand new home at the 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:45.840 Salvation Army's camp in Texas. The set build was a 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:53.000 huge undertaking, like huge, the landscape needed to believably represent 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.360 Biblical locals such as the Feeding of the five thousand, 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:03.080 while also housing auction facilities, a state of the art 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:08.479 thirty thousand square foot sound stage, and an authentic first 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:13.560 century city was built. The Biblical set covers two acres 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:18.400 approximately two football fields side by side. It was unbelievable. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.120 I got to walk through the sets, I got to 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:24.119 walk through the city. I got to see the amazing artwork, 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:29.480 the tilework, the the research they did for every wall, 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:35.280 every window was was unbelievable. I mean, they spent months 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:40.960 researching everything they built. When filming is complete, the camp 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.560 will be turned back over to the Salvation Army to 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.000 use in their outreach with their children's camps. I got 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.360 to see an experience at all me and my friend 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.240 jan who is the one that introduced me to this 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.720 show That Chosen. They've recently wrapped filming of season three 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.240 of the seven that are planned. I was able to 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.720 sit down and check at with Dallas Jenkins, the creator, director, 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.040 and co writer of the series, as well as several 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:12.400 cast members, including amber Shana Williams, who plays the beautiful, 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:17.200 incredible Tamar Brandon Potter as the villain that we love 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:22.799 to hate, Quintus oh Nn. 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I mean, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:28.480 it was it was catching on. But now what a phenomenon, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.240 Dallas Jenkins, who is the creator of The Chosen. We're 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:37.359 going into season three and you graciously invited us to 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:42.160 your new home. This is amazing. Yeah, this is crazy 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.120 and it's a it's a ride that I feel fortunate 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.440 to be on. Uh and I've every day. It proves 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.240 to me what I've said from the beginning, which is 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.600 that I'm not good enough to to fulfill what this 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.400 is being. But this has become it just gets bigger 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.000 and better than I'm capable of which is scary and 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.680 uh and comforting at the same time. When I first 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.200 was introduced to you, my friend Jan introduced me to 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.279 The Chosen and it was the beginning of COVID and 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.839 she and her husband were the like the probably the 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.160 first couple that paid it forward, you know, and they 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.080 have been doing that since day one. She's like, you 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.200 really get gotta get on board. You gotta watch this, 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.440 you gotta talk about it on your show, you gotta 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.919 get to know this. So the shutdown comes. I have 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:28.080 nine people, my my youngest children, my husband, and my 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.839 outlaws my former in laws were now my outlaws, and 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.119 so I called Jan. I'm like, how do I find 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:39.919 this show you're talking about? And it was so perfect 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.679 and so powerful for my teenagers and my younger children 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.200 to watch, for my husband and I for us to 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:53.839 start some really important conversations. So that started that relationship 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:58.640 that you created between Simon, Peter and Eden really started 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.839 conversations with us that we're so impactful and so important. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.280 But when my kids started wanting to stay there at 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.840 the end of the show and watch you talk about it. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:13.760 And these were in the early days when you're like, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.160 we just need to come up with enough money to 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.520 make a costume. People, we don't really have a set 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:25.280 kind of looking for a desert. And you were very transparent, 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:30.040 very honest, and now to come here and see what 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.760 God has done and how working with a salvation army 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.760 mind blowing. Only God could do that. And I think 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.120 you've pointed out the two primary things about the show 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.000 that have brought it to where it is. One is 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.600 the human relatability factor, which is I've I've seen all 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.960 the Bible shows and movies ever made, and I've never 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.640 seen a marriage portrayed as a real marriage. Just I 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.160 can't even think of how many marriages I've seen portrayed. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.040 I mean, you just don't see that kind of stuff. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.720 And when you're able to go as especially especially in 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:06.080 Christian or or or Biblical Bible era projects, you're thinking, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.800 when you're able to say those issues that they faced 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.600 two thousand years ago are actually the same issues that 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.840 I face, then you go, oh, maybe the solution to 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.080 those issues, Jesus is the same solution that I can 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.800 have today. Another thing you're bringing up is that crowdfunded, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.480 crowd related thing that we decided to do from the beginning, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.040 which is we're gonna be Authenter. We're gonna show you 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.720 behind the curtain. You're going to be part of this, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.360 whether it's financially, prayer wise, or just a matter of 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.880 knowing what we're doing so that you can spread the word. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.760 That has been an essential part of the Chosen from 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.959 day one, and it has led to what we have 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.880 now and what it's continuing to grow. The thing is, though, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.720 we have to remember we can ever lose that just 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.800 because we now have this amazing set to you as well, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.000 that still has to be financed, that we still have 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.199 to continue making episodes. We still don't have a big 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.840 studio covering all the cost of everything. We still need 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.640 to be reliant. Yes, sweet to know that it's it's 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.120 all in God, and you've said that from the very beginning. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.040 It was God birth, that was God breathed, that's God funded. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.960 Um and and there's nobody you know, telling you the 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:16.080 parameters outside of you and God. My responsibility is to 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.960 Him and to my wife and uh and everything else 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.200 is we we we we have the beauty of it 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.680 is we have the freedom to control it and to 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.679 do what it is we believe is best and what 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.640 we believe God is leading us to do, and we're 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.400 not bound by cancel culture. We're not bound by a 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.520 studio having to fit us into some sort of slot. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:34.840 We get to do what we need to do and 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.480 be audience dependent and God dependent as opposed to, uh, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.679 you know, an office that's deciding where we're going to 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.640 go next. So one of the things that I love 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.679 about The Chosen beyond um all those things you just 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:54.040 meant mentioned, is the fact that in most uh biblical 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.200 kind of productions, women take a back seat, not even 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.320 a back seat. We're not even on the bus to 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.640 get in the backseat, you know, except for you know, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.800 the production of Sampson and Delilah that was done Cecil 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.240 and b the Mills I think years ago. There's no 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.840 female characters that that really stand out or play a role. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.280 And from day one and the Chosen you focus on 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:24.200 the women that God chose to surround his son. Yeah, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.160 we forget that. There's a very key verse or two 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.679 in the Bible in the Gospels that talk about that 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.640 Jesus didn't just have the twelve apostles. There were dozens 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.280 and dozens of disciples that follow Jesus around, including a 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.440 group of women who were essential to his ministry. It 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.679 says they even helped finance his ministry. Mary Magdalen was 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.480 a key point of of of multiple momentous moments of 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.439 the Gospels. And so I don't think we're doing anything revolutionary. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:56.920 I don't think we're but you are revolutionary because the 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.760 women have been there historically. Um. I like that you 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:04.199 gave Needing a name, But but you are doing something 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:08.280 revolutionary and that you are shining a spotlight on the 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:12.199 importance of those relationships. I got a book years ago 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.120 called Women in the Bible that tells the stories of 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.160 a lot of the key women in the Bible, and 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:21.040 I have shared that with my daughters because first off, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:25.280 of my eight girls, only two are our Caucasian the 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.280 rest are women of color. And so the way that 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:33.600 you have portrayed in the Chosen strong women, women that 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:39.120 have character flaws and soared past and brokenness and joy 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.920 and laughter and love and sisterhood. And and I'm hearing 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:47.280 through the grapevine that this new season is really gonna 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.000 uh paint those pictures and more vibrant colors than ever. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.360 Season three goes even deeper with the women of the show. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:59.120 Because one trap that you can sometimes fall into and say, Okay, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.280 women haven't been portray much, so we're gonna portray them 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.800 and they're gonna be perfect and wonderful. And women have 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.040 just the same struggles that men do. Maybe they look 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.480 a little different, but they're flawed as well, And so 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.880 we want to be honoring of some of these characters 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.760 from the Gospels and some of the to the actresses 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.600 that we have who are extraordinary to give them things 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.960 to sink their teeth into as well. They're gonna argue 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.120 in bicker this year, just like the Disciples do. They're 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.600 gonna overcome some of their struggles, just like the Disciples do. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.080 They're gonna face doubts and questions just like the Disciples do. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.280 And Simon and Eden especially are at the heart of 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.600 this season and they face a significant obstacle in their marriage. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.160 And how they overcome that and how how how they 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.599 have to meet Jesus in that in that desperation is 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.400 a key thrust of season three. So we just have 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.840 a little bit of time here. Tell me about the 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:51.680 actress Amber, Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to talk to her. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.320 you'll love Amber. She's great because she plays Tamar, who's 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.920 an Ethiopian woman who we introduced in season one and 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.960 we're planning on having for just one episode, and she 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.959 brought just such a different flavor to the show that 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.520 we thought, you know what, um, we know that there 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.120 was a group of women who followed Jesus and who 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.480 helped him in his ministry. Let's bring her back. Let's 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.640 get her into the fold, because she just we love 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.040 finding we we we consider the group of people around 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.200 Jesus and this show to be like an orchestra, and 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.440 we want to find people who play different tunes and 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.440 different instruments so that when they come together, it's it's variety, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.520 not just literally skin tone, but also style and approach 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.440 and energy. And uh so we we get to explore 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.199 in this season her back story more what she brings 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:38.960 to the table. And and now that the women are 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.680 thrust together, uh in season three and are following Jesus 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.439 together and didn't know each other beforehand, we really explore 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.599 what that looks like. Thank you for that. Yeah, no, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.760 And I think that's what's been fun about the show 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.800 is we're we're again we're not doing it for any 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.679 political reasons. It's we're just capturing what we know of 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.920 the story, which is that even the area where they 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.440 where they where Jesus walked was a melting because it 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.600 was a trade route. So we get to see different colors, 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:07.400 different flavors, and also even neurological differences, Like Matthew, I mean, 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.400 we really try to show the gamut because I think 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:10.920 this is what happens gonna look like, so we might 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.720 as well make sure that the viewers get to see 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:17.920 themselves as well. Amen, Thank you, Thank you, Amber, Shana Williams. Welcome. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.040 You didn't see us yesterday, which means your people did 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.240 a really good job making us hush. Um, but we 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.480 saw you, and I got to see you in a 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.640 scene you were looked like grinding. We that's when you 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.440 were there. Yeah, yeah, you were scooping and grinding and 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:39.000 mixing and pouring water. And I wanted to stay and 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.920 like see what was unfolding, but they're like, no, you can't. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.920 You must go now, we can, yes, must. So I'm 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.600 excited to talk to you for a number of reasons. Um. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:56.160 I and the mother of eight daughters, all but two 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.480 are women of color, and there's a lot of things 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.240 I can do. I can teach them about skincare and 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.000 hair care. But there are some things I cannot do 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.880 and I cannot be a strong, beautiful black role model 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:16.120 to my girls. But you are and I love you 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.560 for that. I thank you for that. And I was 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:25.080 I was watching an interview with you earlier on a 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.600 TV show, and you were talking about how you love 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:34.960 feeling strong and powerful and you do martial arts and 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.880 you're learning how to sword fight and all these superhero things. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.600 And yet the character that you portray in The Chosen, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:52.680 she's poised. She's so poised, she's so understated, underspoken and 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.320 classic just classic beauty. Yeah, but we're gonna we're gonna 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.880 be exploring that in season three of The Chosen to 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.920 mark the open woman who brought the paralytic to Jesus 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.400 to be healed. And she's the example of faith and 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.560 the Chosen she has been because that key line, your 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:14.280 faith is beautiful like that, that represents her and it has. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.400 And in season three, what they're gonna do is tell 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.520 you a little bit more about her and why she 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.360 is the way she is and touching on that story. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.280 And it's a deep story. It's a deep story. And 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.400 as you mentioned before, you're the mom of a beautiful 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.960 girl like I got ten siblings. I know about the 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:34.560 big family, and you are a beautiful, perfect example of 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.640 what it is to be a strong woman. And I 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.240 appreciate and I know it's a privilege and responsibility to 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.840 be representing people who look like me as well. I 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.200 didn't know that at first. I didn't expect it. I 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:48.680 wasn't planning on it. I just had to be a 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.440 part of the Chosen. And then when I started to 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.520 see the impact that it was having on everyone else, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.280 and then the messages started coming in and d M 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.520 or showing up with people like I'm so happy to 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.400 see my self on screens like me And it's just 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.960 like that was the first thing my daughter said, Look 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:13.080 when look, Mom, look look. And because I love God's 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.800 words so much and I love the Bible so much, 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:21.840 and I see how in the scriptures Jesus loves women 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:26.679 and honors us so much, and yet that whole piece 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.119 is somehow missed. It's often missed. And a lot of 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.520 faith based media um and and and and films and 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.879 television shows, and it focuses a lot on Jesus and 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.800 you know his story. But what the Chosen does is 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.359 not only does it. You know, it's telling the life 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.200 of Christ, but it's doing it from the very human 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.760 people around him, and they make great effort and great 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.560 intent to also do it from the perspective of the women. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.480 I love that each one is unique and I none 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.800 of them. Three the women kind of take some girl 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.919 are going on in season three. Okay, there's a lot 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.000 of things that we experience uniquely as women that they're 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.000 going to delve into in season three. You know, we 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:14.160 carry burdens, everybody's burden sometimes and um, we're gonna really 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.880 touch base on that and what that means for us 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:22.399 as women and the sisterhood and how difficult sometimes it 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.240 is to maintain that because you're not just when you 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.520 have a sisterhood, it's more than just we're here. We 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.680 support each other all the time. Sometimes you gotta hold 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.119 each other accountable. You know, sometimes you're conflicting in your 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.400 button heads. And you may see some of that going 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.439 on in season three and how that's going to be 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.240 processed and and how we're going to move through that 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.520 and still follow Christ. Because at the same time you 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.679 have to know that that's that's the heart that the 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.120 easy part is saying you're gonna do it. The difficult 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.439 part is actually following the actual doing absolutely, And so 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.280 we're gonna go through that entire process in season three 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.919 and leave the door wide open for season floor to 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.639 keep going like that there, it's not stopping, like the 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.439 momentum just keeps building. So how they let you in 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.800 on the next season's the next few seasons begging? I 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.359 keep I'm like, can you just just you got the 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.520 big guys, just to get the big Yeah that it 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.040 works on my husband, but it didn't worked on I'm 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.240 gonna try it on Amanda next and see what happened. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:21.880 I think you might. You might have an in road 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.760 there because she's the one, She's the one, She's the 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:28.080 reason I'm here. Actually it was Amanda who was like, 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.720 that's tomorrow when I did that audition. It was Amanda 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.280 and like and like I said, so all around behind 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.320 the scenes and on the show that chosen, it's like 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.960 getting it right with the women, and it's so difficult 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.240 to find someone who tells our stories so well and 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.080 and and so accurately from our point of view. And 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.199 you're going to see in season three how how like 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.639 deeper they delve into that. I can't wait, I thank you, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.520 thank you for being with us, Thanks for having me. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:20:02.919 It's been a privilege joining me. Is the incredible Brandon Potter, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.800 Brandon High, or as many of us know him, you 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:13.399 are Quintus, who is the character we all love to hate. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:21.400 That's right, Brandon. How did you end up as this evil, smart, alecky, 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:28.600 incredibly dry, brilliant evil character in In the Chosen. It 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.919 was just an audition, but I think a casting director 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.960 in town recommended that I do something because they were 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.720 talking to people in l A for a lot of 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.440 these roles. But I think it was Beverly who said 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.840 you should bring a Brandon for this, and I did, 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.640 and Dallas and I got to play during the audition. Um. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.720 I think Quintus originally started out as, you know, a 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.800 Roman who was eating grapes and was very disinterested, you know, 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.560 which is kind of a trope. And he said, I 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.360 like to do something else. So of course he did 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.600 because Dallas, Yeah, because he's Dallas and he wants to play. 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.320 So I said, what if he really likes this, What 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.920 if he's really interested in efficiency, maintain the status quo? 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.879 What if he's a bureaucrat died in the wall. You know, 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.359 he said, okay, let's give it a go. So we 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.080 got to play with that during this audition. We both 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.400 had a great time and the rest, as they say, 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.840 is history. There we go. I appreciate the fact that 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.680 you make him human like, he's not just a villain 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.880 when you read the scripture a lot of times, for me, 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.840 the characters are kind of one dimensional, and the gift 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:33.640 of the chosen for me is the way that the 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:39.840 characters are real. They're real people. Jesus is a real man. Uh, 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:46.280 they have real relationships, they have real situations, and even 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:55.359 as this bureaucratic jerk, Uh, your character has a human side. 0:21:56.080 --> 0:22:04.400 Like you care about Matthew. You're very protective of this jerky, 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:11.320 autistic he's the character is on the artistic spectrum. Uh, 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:16.199 Jewish man who turned against his faith and against his 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.040 family to be a tax collector. But it's almost I 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.280 almost feel like you've got like a a big brother 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:27.760 or a father like role in his life in the story. YEA. 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.880 Was that an on purpose? Oh? Definitely yeah. And I think, 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:34.280 you know, to go back to the point that you 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.320 mentioned earlier about the humanity of this story, I think 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:41.359 that's one of the central features of the Chosen that 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:45.679 makes it meaningful, right, is that it is populated with 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:47.280 real people, and I think that the audience will be 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.639 able to relate to, if not everyone, then at least 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.800 one person you know, And I think that's what makes 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.000 this important. And in terms of you know, my character, 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.199 even when you're playing a bad guy, you have to 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.640 find something that you relate to. And the writer's really 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.560 really cleverly gave me lots of stuff to relate to. 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.879 First of all, he's uh a small part of a 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.240 story he doesn't fully understand, right, And that's something that 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.840 I can definitely relate to. I'm just one actor in 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.680 this giant production. I don't fully understand it, fully understand 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:22.080 its reach, and that's easy to relate to. The Other 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:27.960 thing is this relationship to Matthew Quintus sees his analytical 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:35.000 brain and relates to it immediately, And who can't empathize 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.680 with that. You see someone who maybe has gifts like you, 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.199 and you want to mentor them so that they can 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.880 maybe avoid the same pitfalls as you, maybe you can 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.680 make a better version of yourself, whatever your reasons are. 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.480 When that happens, you go um onto those people and 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.320 quint Is is a human who does that exact thing. 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.000 He sees someone who has a similar gift to him, 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.240 which is that sort of analytical machinery in his mind, 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.120 and really really wants to cultivate it. I also love 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.119 how what a smart alk you are. You know. I 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.560 don't know if that's the writer's brilliance or your way 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:14.359 to deliver the lines, but dude, you can just zing. 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:19.280