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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm lare In Vogel Bam, and

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Speaker 1: today we're talking about Campbell's soup, which I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: this seemingly came out of nowhere. Was this a you suggestion? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well because I was. I was thinking about it, it

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Speaker 1: being it being the holiday season here in um the world.

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Speaker 1: I guess, Um, we just had Thanksgiving here in the

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Speaker 1: United States, and so I was thinking about green bean casserole,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, What's what's up with that soup stuff?

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Speaker 1: How how does that happen? I mean it's also you know,

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Speaker 1: like the weather is turned and so I, you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of I've just been craving nothing but soup.

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Speaker 1: Um stupid like bindeloo. I guess oh yeah yeah. And

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Speaker 1: you know a little behind the scenes, listeners, this is

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Speaker 1: our set. Good time recording this episode. It is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my recorder decided it didn't like us. Um. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it happens very occasionally. We have to we have to

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Speaker 1: come in here and pretend that we didn't already say

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Speaker 1: all of these things. Try to keep it fresh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we definitely, and I hope we can recapture the jokes,

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Speaker 1: the soup jokes. But I just I just like knowing

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Speaker 1: as a listener that there's a like Easter Egg, there's

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Speaker 1: a lost Campbell soup episode. Well we have, I mean,

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Speaker 1: unless you deleted it. We do have your audio from it.

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Speaker 1: We do. We could post that and compare. I think

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Speaker 1: would be great. It's just me an awkward silence. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I into it, into it. Um. I'm also into soup.

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Speaker 1: And researching this episode, I did really appreciate all the

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Speaker 1: condensed puns articles. Yeah, the condensed story of Campbell super

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Speaker 1: what have you. So I'm gonna have to I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to think of something different. Okay, the title of

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Speaker 1: this episode, all right, I like that you're challenging yourself

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Speaker 1: and I like that you're out in yourself too. So

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Speaker 1: if you wind up with a condensed pun for the title,

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Speaker 1: we'll know that you were just lazy. Yeah, it does happen,

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Speaker 1: I have to admit, and sometimes you know, the magic

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Speaker 1: just isn't there puns puns I've got to come from

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Speaker 1: a very specific place. They do, they do, And I mean, Laura,

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Speaker 1: you're the one, You're the only one who knows all

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Speaker 1: of the puns I've made and so you've witnessed this first.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I got a lot. Sometimes I'm like I got nothing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh, listeners, Um, believe me when I

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Speaker 1: say that her pop lyric puns are always the best.

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Speaker 1: Those are usually the ones that make me laugh out

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Speaker 1: loud and startle my cats. Yes, yes, I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of those as well. And I love to you

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Speaker 1: how they're so obscure. We almost never picked them because

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Speaker 1: they're so fure, but I've got to make them done

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Speaker 1: the less. Um. So I also, I have a really

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Speaker 1: fond place in my heart for Campbell's soup. Growing up,

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Speaker 1: if I got sick, my mom would make me she

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Speaker 1: would warm up some of the Campbell's Homestyle Homestyle Chicken

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Speaker 1: noodle soup. Okay, yeah, because I preferred that one for

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Speaker 1: some reason. Um. And also the chocolate milkshakes Chocko ice cream,

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Speaker 1: as I've mentioned. Um, that was sort of my combo

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Speaker 1: might get well common. And I really really liked the

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Speaker 1: vegetable the vegetable beef too. Um. And she did use

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Speaker 1: cream of mushroom soup and a lot of her recipes. Um.

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Speaker 1: She like we talked about I think in our chicken

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Speaker 1: Tuchrasini episode. Yeah yeah, cast role ingredients. Sure, exactly after

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving her Christmas we had all that leufch over turkey.

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Speaker 1: She would make turkey tetrasini and that had cream mushroom

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Speaker 1: minute and it was so good. I loved it. And

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Speaker 1: then in college I grab aduated to chunky Campbell's soup

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Speaker 1: Like I'm a grown up now, I need chunky or soup.

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Speaker 1: I need to get through my college day. I need

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Speaker 1: something chunky to sustain me. Um. And I still hate

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Speaker 1: those from time to time. I I legitimately love soup everybody.

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Speaker 1: I love it all the time. It can be hot outside,

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Speaker 1: especially when stressed, I love it. Um. Although right now,

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Speaker 1: probably for two years, generally, my my real jam has

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Speaker 1: been fun and rama and that's what I want all

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Speaker 1: the time. Yeah. Oh those middles, They're just so noodly,

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Speaker 1: oh so savory, so good. Um. But yeah, still still

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Speaker 1: big soup person. I just made a batch of collared greens,

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Speaker 1: black eyed peas sausage soup. It was so good, it

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Speaker 1: was so easy, it was wonderful. And then cauliflower kale

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Speaker 1: in my household, and lasts like a week, like you

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Speaker 1: making is like chicken soup from a chicken, Like get

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Speaker 1: I have made soup from a chicken and it's so

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Speaker 1: good man. Um uh yeah yeah. And and I I yeah,

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Speaker 1: the past couple of days because I yeah, like I've

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Speaker 1: I've just been on a big soup bender. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: just like my oh man, I remember we went to

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Speaker 1: Super Say and shout out to Super sayan in Orlando Dragonball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was awesome. I think we want to take

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Speaker 1: pictures in there. I wish I had. I might have

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Speaker 1: a couple of photos. I'll have to I'll have to

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Speaker 1: dig through by phone. Um but uh yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: Ball theme. Um. But but it was good fun. If

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Speaker 1: God of the Wizard feeling like a wizard. Me and

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Speaker 1: my roommate in college. Um, I usually did the cooking,

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Speaker 1: and one time she was sick and she was like,

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Speaker 1: I need soup, and I just threw in a bunch

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Speaker 1: of things to make the stew. And I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: it looked really gross. It was like brown, but it

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Speaker 1: tastes it was cold, and it tasted amazing. Ever since,

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Speaker 1: we've called it hobbit stew, and I've tried to recreate it,

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Speaker 1: but all I can remember is like it was gross

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Speaker 1: looking and it had mushrooms and potatoes. That's not extremely specific, No,

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Speaker 1: it's very very vague. Um. Yeah. It also recently, Lauren.

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Speaker 1: I I was lamenting to Lauren. I was down to

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Speaker 1: my last pack of ramen, right, yeah, and you showed

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Speaker 1: well you had said you were like, You're like, man,

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Speaker 1: relating this this story to my friend Cacia, and she

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Speaker 1: just disappeared and came back with these like two big

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Speaker 1: grocery bags full of canned soup. And I still don't

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Speaker 1: know like from once she produced these cans of soup,

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Speaker 1: but she was. She was just like Annie, Annie needs

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Speaker 1: energy for podcasting. Here take them, give them to Annie.

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Speaker 1: It was like, well, I very much appreciated it. All

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Speaker 1: the soups were enjoyed. So tell her thank you, thank you, Laura. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: any anytime soup delivery, happy to do it. So much

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Speaker 1: appreciation for soup deliveries. I guess this brings us to

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Speaker 1: our question. Sure, yeah, in a roundabout why, absolutely very roundabout,

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Speaker 1: as is our tradition. The Campbell Soup Company what is it? Well,

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Speaker 1: Campbell's is a brand of soups that also as the

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Speaker 1: Campbell Soup Company, UM owns and operates a number of

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Speaker 1: other packaged food brands UM as they are fond of saying,

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Speaker 1: soup is our middle name, UM and they are famous

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Speaker 1: for those the most famous for for those soups. I'm

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Speaker 1: including lines of like inexpensive condensed soups to which you

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Speaker 1: two dishes like cast roles as we have mentioned, UM

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Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty five products dang right right have

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Speaker 1: been discontinued and are still on the site, like for

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Speaker 1: posterity's sake, I guess, but um, but yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: and I was like, dare dare I do a list? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah I did, Oh yeah, I did. This is not

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Speaker 1: this is not a complete list, but because I kind

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Speaker 1: basic categories of of classic slow cattle style home style.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the difference is chunky and healthy requests,

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Speaker 1: was there was planning that went into this, y'all. So

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Speaker 1: so amongst all of those, you've got broth based soups

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Speaker 1: think you said ben astrone. But you know, as I've

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Speaker 1: lamented frequently being a podcaster, me, do you realize you

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Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce things You've always thought you

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Speaker 1: like quick looking up the names in that script hours. Yes,

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Speaker 1: of like lagume and uh and and potato and tomato soups,

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Speaker 1: your corn soups, your tomato soups, your chilies. Yeah, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: it's like yellow um, and the sir lorne burger is

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Speaker 1: just kind of like chunks of ground sir loine. That's good, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: vegetables and be you know, sell some heck and condensed soup.

420
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: And the recipe hasn't changed a lot since nineteen fifty five.

421
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: It's just cooked green beans, condensed cream, cream of mushroom soup,

422
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: milk soy sauce, although I think it was originally Worcestershire

423
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: sauce anyway. Um, A ground pepper and fried onions on tap,

424
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: preferably frenches, fried onions and a can. Right yes, Um,

425
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: this was originally called green bean bake. Um. And the

426
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: recipe was introduced to the public on cream of mushroom

427
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: soup cans in nineteen then got a print dad campaign

428
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: in the early sixties. And Um. It was initially intended

429
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: as like an everyday dish, um, but over time would

430
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: morph into this like winter holiday staple that we know today.

431
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Um and the company. The company estimates that Americans make

432
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: twenty million per year every year for Thanksgiving. Wow. Yeah yeah,

433
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: like to the point that fully half of the company's

434
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: cream of mushroom soup sales occur in November through January. Wow. Well,

435
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: this is so interesting to me because we don't have

436
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: This is not a holiday thing in my house at

437
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: all ever, never has been, but my mom would make

438
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: it for pot lux and I would feel this sort

439
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: of embarrassment when I was a young kid, because kids

440
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: at least in my orbit, weren't fans of the Green

441
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: being Castle Gospel, and I'd be like, oh, but I

442
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: always I really liked it. I to this day, like

443
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had it, but

444
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: I'll still get cravings for it. Yeah, And like I

445
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: have to be in the mood because sometimes like that

446
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: is absolutely not what I want. But sometimes I'm like

447
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: that is what I'm exactly it. Yeah, it's it's a

448
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: very it's a very nostalgic thing for me. I can't

449
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember. I think I think I had

450
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: a family member who made it for either Thanksgivings or

451
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Christmas is um, but it would have been Thanksgivings. Yeah,

452
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I I like we did this. We

453
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: did this very non non traditional Thanksgiving for just just

454
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: me and my roommates. This year. We had like we

455
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: had like salmon and greens and stuff, and I mean

456
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: it was really good, but like and I was like, oh,

457
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: this is fine, Like this is this is great. I

458
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: like these foods too. I don't need like traditional Thanksgiving foods.

459
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: And then like the week after when I was at

460
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: the grocery store, I bought things to make stuffing and

461
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: green being cast role and it's just like, yep, nope,

462
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: that's what's up. So I have the ingredients sitting in

463
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: my kitchen. Well let me know how it goes. I have.

464
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: I have been craving it recently. Um, it's a salty goodness. Yeah.

465
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: I also did want to mention in terms of like

466
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: other combinations. When you think of Campbell soup, I think

467
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: we would be remiss if we did not acknowledge the

468
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: grilled cheese and tomato soup com Oh yeah, no, absolutely,

469
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: that is a grilled cheese though. I mean, grilled cheese

470
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: and anything is a pretty good combination. But oh I

471
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: have I miss grilled cheese, and you know, I I

472
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: forgot that. I really was determined to like grilled cheese

473
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: and tomatoes soup for a long time as a kid,

474
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: because it seems like a mature thing. I don't know

475
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: why I thought. I have no idea why I thought

476
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: that was the case. Okay, but you know, I eventually

477
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: got there. I didn't like tomato soup for a while,

478
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: but I got there. But my old uh university Georgia Tech,

479
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: they would do grilled cheese and tomato soup nights. I

480
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: think every Thursday it was it was legit grilled cheese.

481
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: Oh I want that right now. I'm like, cy, I'm

482
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: like a podcasting. Why am I not eating grilled cheese

483
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: and tomatoes soup? I don't even have good cheese to

484
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: make a grilled cheese with? You? Do you? Do? You?

485
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Because you still have you still have that like block

486
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: of cheese that like, I have a block of craft

487
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: cheese ready to go. It's time. That means the best

488
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: grilled cheese in which is okay anyway anyway where You're

489
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: welcome for that craving. But let's pivot. Let's hard pivot

490
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: to the world of art. Hey, hey, grilled cheese and

491
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: tomato soup is art as well, thank you? You know

492
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: I you're right, I think that any delicious meal is

493
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: an art form. There you go, yes, yes, So maybe

494
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: a soft pivot then, um. So. From one to nineteen

495
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: sixty two, the Campbell's condensed soups cans were immortalized in

496
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: the art world when Andy Warhol produced thirty two silk

497
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: screened paintings of them, one for each flavor on the

498
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: market at that time. So this is the stuff of art.

499
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: Legend I think they're at least fifty different versions of

500
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: how this came about. Um. But apparently he got the

501
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: idea after he was lamenting his lack of recognition in

502
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: the art world to a decorator named Muriel Lettaux or

503
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: Lata maybe, and she said something like, you've got to

504
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: find something that's recognizable to almost everybody, something you see

505
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: every day that everybody would recognize, something like a can

506
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: of Campbell soup. And the story goes he was inspired

507
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: after this, he went across the street and bought all

508
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: these soups, and like in Reese interviews, he said he

509
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: loves Campbell soup and he still eats it. Um. But

510
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, I've definitely seen this. I can't remember what

511
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: you see, my rosette, but I've seen the tomato soup one. Yeah,

512
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: and and it is interesting this sort of whole the

513
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: Campbell's condensed soup becoming this symbol of American consumerism, of

514
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: this fast, cheap, easy lifestyle. Yeah, the the mass production

515
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: um and yeah, yeah, it's very iconic. I mean, the

516
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: can is iconic and it's extremely recognizable, so it is. Yeah,

517
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, thank goodness for those Cornell uniforms. Thank goodness,

518
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: for that. Speaking of speaking of football, Yes, um so

519
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: Campbell's chunky soups m were introduced in nineteen seventy and

520
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: it would later a bunch later become the official soup

521
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: sponsor of the NFL. Again, I learned this yesterday and

522
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm still it still makes me chuckle because I'm just

523
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: imagining like these big buffy football players. You don't say buffy,

524
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: do you different shure? Yeah, well you know what I mean,

525
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: like drinking soup out of the can and being like,

526
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: send me in, coach, I've got my strength, I'm ready. Um.

527
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: It's just a funny image to me. Yeah no. And

528
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: I love that there's a that there's a soup sponsor

529
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: this This it rings the same way that like that

530
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: like official state snack or you know does absolutely yeah. Um.

531
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: The company replaced fresh Camden tomatoes with industrially made tomato

532
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: paste out of California in nine and this allowed the

533
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: company the freedom to move to wherever they wanted and

534
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: not have to deal with the continued labor disputes at

535
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: the Camden location. M hm um Camden produced a flast

536
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: can in the factory was gone a year later. Yeah yeah,

537
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: they imploded it. Um and from what I understand though,

538
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: at least one of the water tower drums that that

539
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: stood over the Camden factory and was fashioned to look

540
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: like a can of Campbell soup does remain, having been

541
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: moved from that original location to somewhere on the Campbell's

542
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: Camden campus because Yeah, although they imploded the plant, they

543
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: did keep the global headquarters there in Camden. See listeners

544
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: any listeners as pictures of this, I need you. I

545
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: know I could just google it, but I need you.

546
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I need your on the ground experience of pictures because

547
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: this is absolutely one of my very favorite things. I

548
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: love thinking about. If an alien was dropped onto this earth,

549
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: after humanity is long gone, what would they think? They

550
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: just see this soupcan, this giant soupcan lying in like

551
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: a corporate lawn somewhere. Questions have questions. Apparently you can

552
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: see it from the highway. I'm not I'm not sure, y'all.

553
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: Let us know. That's why this is a very important

554
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: mission and we need you. Starting in the eighties, Campbells

555
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: cut the salt in their products by up to but

556
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: drastically reduced sales meant that they quickly they reverse that decision. Yeah,

557
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: and like kind of a lot has been written about this,

558
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: and I was delighted to read all about it. So okay, okay,

559
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: the issue here was kind of two pronged. Um. So

560
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: like they weren't advertising or even like marketing this drop

561
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: in sodium in these products. And like all right, so

562
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: like first of all, like if if you're buying condensed

563
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: soup to use in a cast role, that is a

564
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: classic recipe that you are making, maybe just for family,

565
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: but often yeah, for the potlucker for this holiday meal.

566
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: And our resistance to change in that kind of classic

567
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: recipe is so intense. Um, Like it has this one

568
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: flavor and that is the flavor, and you do not

569
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: mess with it. Um. And and like furthermore, like without

570
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: if you don't tell consumers about this um, like probably

571
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: the recipes came out tasting different and they did not

572
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: like it. So people people were mad um rolne and

573
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: screw that soup. Uh. And And secondly, you know, the

574
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: company was so keyed in to this, to this narrow

575
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: idea of making healthier soups um by reducing the sodium.

576
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: They were like, well, sodium is bad. Make healthier soups

577
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: by reducing the sodium. Um, that they didn't like, see

578
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: like the forest for the salt trees. Um. The real movement,

579
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: the real health movement that was gaining momentum in the

580
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: eighties was about using fresh ingredients because processing those ingredients

581
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: like destroys some of the flavor and texture of the

582
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: original food, and then you have to cover it up

583
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: by adding salt and sugar and fat and whatever, um

584
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: and so like just reducing the salt doesn't change the

585
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: fact that it's still this highly processed product, right yeah, yeah, um,

586
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: but uh so yeah, so they went back to their

587
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: to their full salt um category, but they would come

588
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: out with um their healthy request line in as sort

589
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: of a sort of a pivot, sort of smarter hivot.

590
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: Here's the product for you. Otherwise with your yeah, as

591
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: much sodium as possible exactly. Uh. Also, they produced their

592
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: twenty bill can of condensed tomato soup. Wow. Yeah, that's

593
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: that's too big a number for me. No, nope, I can't. Nope, nope,

594
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: I stopped. I stopped at eleven billion. Cancer. Yeah, up

595
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: until eleven billion, You've got it. But otherwise I don't know.

596
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: I am curious about who keeps track of these things? Right? Right?

597
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: Is it just like one guy, are they like? He

598
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: was like hey, Sean like and he's like shout, counting,

599
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Sean is dead, Lauren, did you just did Heed to

600
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: kill off this imaginary He died when he got to

601
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: twenty billion cans. His work was finally done. Yeah, he

602
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: died doing what he loved, accomplished his mission. R I

603
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: p Sean for a cannon tomato soup out for you

604
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: into bowl with my grilled cheese. A Campbell's soup to

605
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: go and microwavable cups came out and that was a

606
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: huge college stable for me for sure, and a soup

607
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: at hand and even more convenient soup delivery method was

608
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: introduced in two two, so this was like a couple

609
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: like a sippy cup of soup um and then slow

610
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: kettle style soups came out in and go soup in

611
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 1: a pouch in and then Campbell's released a limited edition

612
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: designs of the label in the style of Andy Warhol's

613
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: works in the United States in two thousand four. In

614
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, they partnered with Target to produce limited edition

615
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: pop art style cans, and Okay, this is where this

616
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: is where I start getting a headache, because I feel

617
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: like the walls of reality are breaking down, Like this

618
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: makes me deeply uncomfortable. I'm like, I'm like, it was

619
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: commentary about commercialism, and then you put that commentary on

620
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: your commercially available product. It never ends, Lauren, It never

621
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: ends the cycle of the Campbell soup. It just makes

622
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: me like itchy and like a place that I can't reach.

623
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Perhaps that was the message that or perhaps they totally

624
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: missed the point. It could be either or both or

625
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: gosh um Anyway, during during the same time period, apparently

626
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: they were thinking real hard about their labels around that

627
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: time because they were in the process of revamping their

628
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: can design to include photo illustrations of each soup. Um

629
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: And And they spent two years with three firms and

630
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: over hundred research subjects looking at consumer we're feedback and

631
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: like neural marketing results like like like biometrics, like they

632
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: they they like kind of strap you down and or

633
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: they don't strap you down. They I'm sure they make

634
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: you comfortable, but anyway, like like they show you these

635
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: images and then they monitor changes in things like heart

636
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: rate and and skin moisture as you're looking at these

637
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: different designs um and and Yeah, and they came up with.

638
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: They They were like, okay, well, you know, we'll still

639
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: use the red and white, We'll still have the Campbell's

640
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: in the cursive font um, but we're going to include

641
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: this photo illustration of each soup um. But the classic

642
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: label remained on three soups um the condensed versions of

643
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: Chicken Noodle, Tomato, and cream of mushroom. This is so intense.

644
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: It sounds like you walk in and you think you're

645
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: getting tested for some like clockwork orange type, like that's

646
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: totally horror, and then you're like, what is this far soup?

647
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure it wasn't that horrific. I'm sure. I'm sure

648
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: whenever they do this, it's a very pleasant process, or

649
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: at the very least just a little bit dull. Maybe. Yeah, yeah,

650
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it's just because when you read things like

651
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: measuring biometrics and good moisture, I usually associate that with

652
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: something scary. Yeah, but yeah, you know that's perhaps because

653
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: of my own biases. Yeah, you do. You do watch

654
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: too many horror movies. It's true, this is fair. We

655
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: can all agree. In Campbell's tried out a Campbell's cake,

656
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Come Campbell's Cake up, and it did not go over well, listeners,

657
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 1: it did not okay? This is This is also very

658
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: confusing for me because I'm like, okay, a cup but

659
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: with soup, and it reminds me every time I think

660
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: of it, of this, of this. There's this moment in

661
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: The Magician's show that also has really confused me for years,

662
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: and it just sticks with me and I think out

663
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: it sometimes because there's this moment where one of the

664
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: characters is in an office and he's never really been

665
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: in an office before, and he's holding up this little,

666
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: this little cake cup labeled donut coffee and he's like,

667
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: does the donut coffee really tastes like donuts? And the

668
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: dude he's talking to is just like, I don't know, man,

669
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: I mostly used that thing to make soup. And it

670
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of haunts me because I'm like, how do you

671
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: make soup? And and I guess this is how. So

672
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: now we know what keeps you up at night? Uh,

673
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: magician k cup soup based nightmares? Uh? You know what

674
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: explains a lot, Lauren. I'm not gonna lie. I think

675
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: that we have both revealed deep things about ourselves in

676
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: this episode, and I think we have to be honest. Yeah,

677
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: who all right, well anyway, uh Campbell's. We're doing an

678
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: episode about Campbell's here hypothetically. UM. Try tried a bunch

679
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: of things in these first couple decades of the twenty

680
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: first century. UM that didn't all necessarily work out super great. Um.

681
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: They bought and then later sold Bolt House Farms and

682
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: Garden Fresh Gourmet. Um. They were trying to get into

683
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: the fresh food sector, UM, and would eventually just sell

684
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: sell at all. They were just like, no, we only

685
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: make shelf stable stuff now. Um. And uh. It's also

686
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: when they picked up brands like Pacific Foods and Snyder's. UM.

687
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Apparently there was a lot of hubbub about how much

688
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: they paid for Snyder's and everyone was like, really that much,

689
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: that's a bad business decision. So I don't know. I

690
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: don't know if it's true. I didn't I'm not an

691
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: economics human. Um. The speaking of hubbub in a Campbell's

692
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: commercial for Star Wars themed soup got major backlash, like

693
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot because I wasn't looking for this, and it

694
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: came up in a lot of articles I was reading

695
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: um from the far right media for featuring two dads

696
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: and their son, and it was especially disheartening because it

697
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: was a real family. Oh what, that's what love is

698
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: love and soup is soup. It's fine. Just let people

699
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: enjoy soup, especially Star Wars soup. Come on, if if

700
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: only more dads in Star Wars could enjoy soup with

701
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: their sons. Look, if you think I haven't read that

702
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: fan fiction or Darth Vader gives Luke some soup after

703
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: he gets a cold, you're wrong, especially after you know.

704
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: It's like it's a it's a whole trope and did

705
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, well, very briefly. In in Star Wars

706
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: fan fiction, Vader is often called sad murder dad. Well,

707
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: that's true because he is it's all, I mean, very accurate.

708
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: I could go on and on about the terms of

709
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: Star Wars fan fiction, but I won't for now. Uh

710
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: that that Star Wars themed soup is is no longer

711
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: no longer with us Sadly um, the product line was discontinued,

712
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: but they do still do product tie ins um with

713
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: a with Pop Patrol and Disney Princesses. So I hear

714
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: the kids of Popatrol. That's so, that's what I keep

715
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: hearing doing reading for these episodes. Yeah, the food tians. Yeah,

716
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: that's how we know what's going on only based on

717
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: food product tie ins a finger on a very specific pulse,

718
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: but it's there. Uh um and uh and and despite

719
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: us bloody millennials, UM sales, sales of Campbell's products are

720
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: actually up this year, what with people stocking up on

721
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: easy to make, shelf stable home comfort foods. UM research

722
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: indicates that of Americans have been cooking more meals at

723
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: home this year, and of us are using packaged foods

724
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: as part of that. UM. Perhaps because almost half of

725
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: us are willing to spend no more than fifteen to

726
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: thirty minutes to cook a meal, that's it. Yeah, Yeah,

727
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I'm generally that way, but

728
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: like you know, maybe twice a week I'll put more,

729
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: especially if I use like a crock pot or something.

730
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, uh and uh and yeah. Campbell's has

731
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy four recipes on their website and

732
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: they do also still print recipes on their can labels.

733
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: So if you if you're looking for ways to incorporate

734
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: more campbell soup into your life, you're well, they're not

735
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: a sponsor. Perhaps they're not a sponsor at all. Um yeah,

736
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: I was telling Lord, like I again in college I

737
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: made this. I was like, what am I going to

738
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: do with these ingredients? I've got this kind of soup

739
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: and chicken and rice. And then I looked at the

740
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: enough soup and it was a cream of chicken and

741
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: there was a recipe for rice chicken chicken, and I

742
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh, orka and it was delicious. And only

743
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: until you said this, I've been thinking I'll never be

744
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: able to make that again. And now it's so obvious

745
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: that I could find that, like in two seconds. Absolutely

746
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: you could. So Also, it's probably not difficult, like I

747
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: recall it being very easy. I think you just put

748
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: the ingredients in a pan, cooked it for like that's

749
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: probably what it is. Yeah, So I'm gonna I have

750
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: a look forward to that my future. I remember it

751
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: being very good. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm gonna

752
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: make that green bean cast role. I'm decided. I thought it. Yes,

753
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: report back, yes, but for now, I guess that's what

754
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: we have to say about Campbell Soup Company the second

755
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: time around. Yes, yes, um, and we do have some

756
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: listener mail for you, But first we've got one more

757
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor and we're back.

758
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, sponsor. Yes, thank you, and we're back with

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00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: listener Mail. Good Good. Emily wrote in your listener Mail episode,

760
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: you were confused about why it's called Boston Pizza if

761
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: it's in Canada. I actually have the answer. Boston Pizza

762
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: was started in my mom's hometown where my grandparents currently live.

763
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: Shout out to Penticton, British Columbia. There was once a

764
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: bar called Boston's Bar. I guess Boston was the owner's nickname.

765
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: It was a bar in the basement of a building

766
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: and they decided to open a pizza restaurant on the

767
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: main level and they called it Boston's Pizza. At some

768
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: point when it became a franchise that they dropped the apostrophe,

769
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: s making it Boston Pizza. Has since spread all over

770
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: Canada and it's actually where I had my first legal

771
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: drink on my nineteenth birthday. I can vouch for their drinks.

772
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: They have lots of excellent choices, both alcoholic and not.

773
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: So this this is great. I love it so much.

774
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: I love because we were perplexed. We were quite perplexed

775
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: by this um and this makes a lot more sense

776
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: than any other thing that I could possibly think of,

777
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: and also it is extremely obscure. Gosh, I love that. Yeah,

778
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: I love it, because unless you happened to know that story,

779
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: you would think why why is it called Boston Pinza?

780
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: But now we know. Thank you, Emily, Yes, yes, um,

781
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: Vivian wrote, I was a little disappointed at first to

782
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: see that the new episode was about burgers. More on

783
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: that later, but then you mentioned that the inspiration was supernatural,

784
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: and the fan girl in me leaped up into light.

785
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm no longer as obsessed as I was a few

786
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: years yars ago, but you can bet I returned to

787
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: the fold for the series finale. I don't remember if

788
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: you've done a pie episode that would also be very

789
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: fitting on burgers. I was convinced for years that I

790
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: hated burgers, and it was all the fault of the

791
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: New York City public school system. The burgers we were

792
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: served at lunch were tough and gray and thoroughly unappealing.

793
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't until college, when one of the dorms was

794
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: grilling burgers in their courtyard, that the combination of hunger

795
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: and free food and amazing smell lured me to try

796
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: one again. At last, I discovered what people liked about them.

797
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: It was juicy and well seasoned and went so well

798
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: with the fluffy bun. I still get them very rarely.

799
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: I prefer my meat in smaller pieces and less textually homogeneous,

800
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: but I no longer shudder at the thought of them.

801
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: The last burger I had was a Juicy Lucy in

802
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: Minneapolis this past summer while visiting my boyfriend's family, and

803
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: though having the cheese inside was pretty fun, I will

804
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: risk the ire of all Minnesotans and submit that the

805
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: burger I had in the college dorm courtyard was juicier

806
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: and our seasoned. Oh fighting words, writing words. I love it.

807
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: I love it. Whenever I read something like this, like

808
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: my heart starts going like like like people are gonna

809
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm reading something controversial. I'm only reporting

810
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: what someone else wrote. Yes, and and people have written

811
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: in about the Juicy Lucy and their fondness of them,

812
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: and we will be reading those letters, so the Juicy

813
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: Lucy will have its time. Okay, okay, good people have

814
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: come in defense preemptively for it, and you know, I've

815
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say that, like being outside and free, like

816
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: those kind of contextual things about burgers really do impact

817
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: the flavor, I think, so I totally get it. Oh yeah, yeah,

818
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: I'm good, just like homemade off a girl burger. Oh,

819
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: I did get it burger after this, after that episode,

820
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was so good. And we have

821
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: we have done an episode on apple pie. On apple pie,

822
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: right um. We did one on meat pies. Yes, we

823
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: briefly mentioned pumpkin pie in our pumpkin episode, right um.

824
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: And and of course we went on the lovely Richard

825
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: Blaze's show Food Court and uh and our our battle

826
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: was cake versus pie. And dear listeners, I'm I have

827
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: to inform you that Annie just really beat me into

828
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: the ground on that one fighting for pie. Um. And

829
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it, like I'm like, well, you know,

830
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: well deserved, but holy heck, I gave on a little stronger. Uh.

831
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: I know I've mentioned it in a previous episode, but

832
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: I think one of my proudest moments is Richard Blaye

833
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: said you might be a little overprepared it like, no,

834
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: no pie. H yeah. We I think I think we were.

835
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: We were a level of research for for that battle

836
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: that was perhaps surprising, Yes, I mean not to us

837
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: and not to you probably oh sure, yeah, yeah, Like

838
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: if y'all are listening to this, you understand that this

839
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: is how we are, yes, uh, but definitely check it out.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a very fun, stressful experience for us,

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Speaker 1: but definitely good listen. Uh. And yes, thank you to

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Speaker 1: write to us, you can or emails hello at savor

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at savor pod,

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Speaker 1: and we do hope to hear from you. Savor is

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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts, My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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Speaker 1: our superproducers Dylan Fagan and Andrew Hooward. Thanks to you

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Speaker 1: for listening, and we hope that lots more good things

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