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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The you Can Talk to Me. Addition,

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Speaker 1: as I debut a new segment called Off the Field

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Speaker 1: Off Limits conversation with Orlando Brown Junior plus NFL owners,

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Speaker 1: Zips Cafe. Now time for something a little different. Here

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals Booth podcast, we are debuting a new

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Speaker 1: SEGM meant I call off the field on the spot.

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Speaker 1: My first guest will be great at this. It's a

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Speaker 1: candid conversation with Orlando Brown Junior. Here we go. You're

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Speaker 1: six eight three point fifty. What's the biggest inconvenience about

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Speaker 1: being that big man?

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Speaker 2: It's so many The biggest inconvenience is probably I mean

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Speaker 2: after flying private This is gonna sound so stuck up

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Speaker 2: in bougie, but after having the finances to be able

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Speaker 3: I have no doubt that is probably.

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Speaker 2: I mean the last time that I was on a

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Speaker 2: commercial plane, I actually broke the seat, and I remember

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Speaker 2: the stewardess was so upset because I was sleeping and

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Speaker 2: she thought I wouldn't move my seat up, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I told her, I said, Man, the seat broke. She's

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Speaker 2: very upset about it on a delta flight. But to me,

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Speaker 2: I think I would have to say that roller coasters.

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Speaker 2: I haven't wrote a roller coaster since high school.

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Speaker 3: That sucks. I got two boys, obviously I.

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Speaker 2: Can't ride my roller coasters with them. What else, Man,

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Speaker 2: it's probably the two main ones to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm six too, and a plane is difficult

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: When your career is finished, Will you do what guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm gonna have to. Honestly, it's

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Speaker 2: probably the healthiest option for me. You know, it's interesting

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Speaker 2: because some guys are three thirty and they got to

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Speaker 2: you know, it's definitely gonna be a task that I

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Speaker 2: got to focus on when I'm done playing balls, dropping weight,

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Speaker 1: We know a lot about your dad, Orlando Senior Zeus,

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Speaker 1: great NFL player. I know very little about your mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably the largest impact in terms of my personality

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Speaker 1: So do you have cool stuff from your dad's career

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Speaker 2: No, my dad, he was a klepto, so he would

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Speaker 2: So I've got Barry Sanders signed jerseys. I've got Dann

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Speaker 3: What else do I have? I've got uh there was a.

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Speaker 3: I got some cool jerseys as well. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then there are the jerseys that you wear around. So

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Speaker 1: last year in the draft you're wearing a Boomer Asias

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you have like a closet full of jerseys?

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Speaker 3: So you guys got the bulk of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm a Buffalo Sabers fan, and they're really good

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Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going to find one.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me help me hit you with some

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Speaker 1: offensive line questions. What's something about offensive line play that fans, media,

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Speaker 1: Sure it's a long time.

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Speaker 2: I know i'd like but you know, some people actually

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Speaker 2: Okay, this guy might have a little bit more power

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Speaker 2: Try to find a more experienced tackle that's been doing

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Speaker 2: And I think that's probably an underrated aspect of the

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Speaker 1: Interesting, we're off the field and on the spot with

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Speaker 1: Orlando Brown Junior. What do you actually hear in a

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Speaker 3: Man Joe Burrow. That's about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I when I'm in the moment and I'm

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Speaker 2: Guard, I hear ted always, I might hear Mens make

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Speaker 2: It was it was pretty loud and I still to

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Speaker 3: Next to you.

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Speaker 2: So but I'm just I'm really just more so focused.

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Speaker 3: I'm in the moment.

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Speaker 2: I'm listening for play called cadence. You know, any communication

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Speaker 2: I said, sometimes MIMS might have to make a call.

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Speaker 1: So offensive linemen historically have not had stats. Then PFF

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, I don't want to I don't want

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Speaker 2: you somewhat quote unquote had a negative offense. And a

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Speaker 3: But I've never really looked into the grades.

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Speaker 2: I like, I genuinely like this is going to sound crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's the most recent.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you it's mostly that.

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Speaker 1: We are off the field and on the spot with

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Speaker 1: was John Harbon Baltimore. When you're telling your grandkids someday

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Speaker 3: Oh, man, so many things? You know. I think Coach

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Speaker 2: He knows how to get the most out of his

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Speaker 1: Day same question Andy Reid.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's up there in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I learned so much from him about the

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Speaker 2: But my biggest takeaway from Coach Reid was how to

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, he is Zach is my favorite head coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm a going record and say he's the best head

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Speaker 2: His messages are always so on point, man, Like, I

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Speaker 2: You know, He's He's allowed me to go out there

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Speaker 3: So I got a ton of respect for coach Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Where is the craziest athletic feat that you have ever

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Speaker 2: Man, I've you know, I've played with some freaks, Like

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Speaker 2: I remember Tyreek Hill my freshman year of college, we

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Speaker 2: Another time, the second craziest thing I've seen in the

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Speaker 2: Man, No, it's really not my style for a few reasons.

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Speaker 2: I actually have bad eyesight. People don't notice. So I

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Speaker 1: More like a goal line fall back.

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Speaker 3: It's perfect.

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Speaker 1: Give it to seventy five.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: We are off the field and on the spot with

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Speaker 3: I mean that's the best part.

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Speaker 2: I think just being able to share that moment with

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Speaker 3: I will tell you.

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Speaker 2: I think the most memorable few memorable things is I

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Speaker 2: And I remember Coach Read giving his speech after we won,

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Speaker 2: and there were so many people, and you could look

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Speaker 2: into the city and there was people sitting on the

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Speaker 2: top of like high rise buildings just like that.

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Speaker 3: That was really special.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome here.

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Speaker 3: Oh man. I was gonna be like Argentina when they

447
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Speaker 3: want to work up. It's gonna be insane.

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Speaker 1: In that Super Bowl win, you held a Philadelphia team

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Speaker 1: that had seventy sacks during the season to zero in

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Speaker 1: that Super Bowl. After the game, the Eagles players said,

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Speaker 1: this isn't why we lost, but the field was sloppy.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't get your footing. Was there any truth to that?

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Speaker 1: From your perspective?

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Speaker 3: Heavy?

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you gotta do your job,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's it's circumstances. That's why

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Speaker 2: they make cleats, they make seven studs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the footing. The field had no problem

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Speaker 3: for me.

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Speaker 2: I think I almost slipped once so and that's almost.

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Speaker 2: But I had no issue on that field.

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Speaker 1: So all right, A few home life questions for you.

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Speaker 1: Do you watch a lot of TV and or movies?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And no?

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Speaker 2: It just depends on the time of year, Like right now,

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Speaker 2: I've got more time, so yeah, yeah, I definitely do

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Speaker 2: during training, can't believe it or not too when I'm

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Speaker 2: coming home to reset a little bit. I don't have

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Speaker 2: as much time at home as I normally would end

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Speaker 2: season or off season, so I'll watch like a TV

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Speaker 2: show or been something during that time, just in my

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Speaker 2: free time. But that's probably that's probably it. I watch

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Speaker 2: a lot of football, Like I've watched I've watched the

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Speaker 2: eighty nine season of the Bengals, I've watched I've gone

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Speaker 2: back and watched that eighty one season.

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Speaker 1: The whole season, or like the summarye old season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I've gone back and watched it.

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Speaker 2: Like I love watching the twenty fourteen Seahawks, and I've

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Speaker 2: gone back and I've watched I watched our seasons, like

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Speaker 2: I've I've seen all of our seasons. I watch a

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Speaker 2: lot of Like just last night I was watching the

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Speaker 2: Chargers versus the Coats and O seven, Like, and.

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Speaker 1: What's it on an NFL network or did you seek

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Speaker 1: it out somewhere?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, YouTube, I'll yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll seek it out

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Speaker 2: on YouTube. But I watch a lot of football like,

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Speaker 2: I just I love the game of football and the

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Speaker 2: uniqueness about it. But you know, it kind of goes

491
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Speaker 2: back to what I was talking about with Pheel, right,

492
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Speaker 2: like I'm always studying stuff. And so Marcus McNeil was

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Speaker 2: in Dwight Freenie actually didn't end up finishing that game,

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Speaker 2: but you know, Marcus, I was just studying the field

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Speaker 2: of that, like he who was.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers left tackle.

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Speaker 2: I was just I was really studying, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: how does how does his movements?

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Speaker 3: How do you handle this? Or you know what he

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Speaker 3: do after a negative play?

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking for the small things in the game

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Speaker 2: like communication and you know, did the crowd have an

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Speaker 2: effect on the rusher?

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Speaker 3: Was a rusher looking at something? You know, I'm looking.

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Speaker 2: I was just I enjoyed that, like I really enjoy

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Speaker 2: watching football for what it is.

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Speaker 1: So you've watched the Freezer Ball?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I've watched that. Absolutely. There

509
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Speaker 2: was what Ken Anderson said. I mean he said it

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Speaker 2: literally changed his DNA or genetics or something, right like

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Speaker 2: that's how he spoke on that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I did watch that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys that played in that game say it changed

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Speaker 1: their internal thermosess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, I've watched that game before. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What are your worst habits?

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Speaker 3: Worst habits?

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Speaker 2: Gosh, man, I'm like, I'm blaming Cody Forward for this,

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Speaker 2: but I've been a zoning There are these like basically

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Speaker 2: it's in the nicotine pouch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I got into that probably. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm blaming Cody.

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Speaker 2: I started that before him, but he put me on

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Speaker 2: a new brand of him and I really like him.

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Speaker 3: So that's probably probably my worst habit. I will tell you.

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Speaker 1: When your career is over, where will you live right here?

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Speaker 3: I'll be right here in Cincinnati? Man? Yeah, you love it?

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Speaker 3: I love it here. Yeah, I love it here. This

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Speaker 3: is my forever home for sure.

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Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 2: I think it just makes the most sense in terms

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Speaker 2: of who I am. Uh, you know, I've got a

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Speaker 2: really comfortable set up here. I enjoyed the convenience of

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Speaker 2: the location of Cincinnati. We're so close to so many

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Speaker 2: big cities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, my kids love it here too.

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Speaker 1: So you watch all of these old games, M study

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Speaker 1: the all time grades. When you watch Anthony million others, y,

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Speaker 1: what stands out?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: A lot of different things, man, I think you know

542
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: when when you watch him and the little things about

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Speaker 2: him that uh to me stand out. CU constantly seems

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Speaker 2: like he was very much involved and had great relationships

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Speaker 2: with everybody on the team, right Like he seemed like

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Speaker 2: just like such a true leader where uh you see

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Speaker 2: a running back, uh make a big play and I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm forgetting names right now, but you'll see a running

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Speaker 2: back make a big play and it might be over

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Speaker 2: t over the right side, and on the way back

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Speaker 2: to the huddle, they make sure they come give Anthony

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Speaker 2: a high five or or low five, or you know,

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Speaker 2: you see plays where you know the defense makes a

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Speaker 2: mistake and he's still running on the field high five

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Speaker 2: in them and transition you know, uh w whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, I feel like a

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Speaker 2: lot of things like that kind of might might get

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Speaker 2: overlooked in terms we know as a player, how amazing

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Speaker 2: he was. I mean, he was to me, like the

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Speaker 2: first to really do it at a high level that

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Speaker 2: size and past protect that many times like that wasn't

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Speaker 2: it just wasn't really heard of at that time. And

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Speaker 2: so you know, he he created a new niche you

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Speaker 2: could say for guys like myself.

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Speaker 3: And Mems and you.

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Speaker 2: Know, guys like Lane Johnson come to mind. You know,

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Speaker 2: the bigger, taller, longer athletic guy.

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Speaker 1: Who's your closest friend on another NFL.

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Speaker 3: Team, Mark Andrews for sure in Baltimore. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we spent a lot of time together, man, And

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Speaker 2: we actually just were together in Cabo, which was so

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Speaker 2: much fun. But yeah, that's probably probably my my closest friend.

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Speaker 2: Ben Powers in Denver. That's my guy as well. Went

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Speaker 2: to college together. Baker in Tampa, Kyler Minnesota. I will

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Speaker 2: tell you tell you those men are probably who I'm

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Speaker 2: closest to.

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Speaker 1: You've traveled a lot, right, you always go to the

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Speaker 1: same type of thing.

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Speaker 2: I've traveled within the US. That was my first time

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Speaker 2: leaving the country. This is my first time leaving the country.

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Speaker 2: I got my passport just for that. How you get

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Speaker 2: a branch out from there?

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Speaker 3: I am, I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to check out a few different places, man,

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Speaker 2: But I really want to get to Europe, like I

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 3: I want to see what it's like. So Japan too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been to Japan. It's awesome. Yeah. Well, you

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Speaker 1: might get your chance to go with the Bengals to

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Speaker 1: either Spain or London. This year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, just wherever we can go and sleep in

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Speaker 2: a nice bed and play some good football.

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Speaker 1: Because do you have to have a special mattress.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny, I actually do have a special mattress.

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Speaker 2: It's the first mattress I've ever had on my feet

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Speaker 2: don't hang off the bill, And I probably I spent

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Speaker 2: my whole first what twenty seven years on my feet

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Speaker 2: hanging off the bed. And so when I signed here,

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Speaker 2: one of the first things I did, because my massroom

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Speaker 2: is pretty big, I bought a cussom bed, so I

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Speaker 2: had one made and it's eleven feet wide and thirteen

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Speaker 2: feet long. So yeah, it's the first time my feet

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Speaker 2: have not hung off the bed when I slip.

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Speaker 1: Sleeping, though, is such an habitual thing when you've slept

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Speaker 1: for years with your feet dangling off the edge. Once

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Speaker 1: you got that gigantic mattress, was it a little bit

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Speaker 1: difficult to sleep with your feet on the bed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was different. It was different. It

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Speaker 2: was different to kind of like feel that, like, I'm like, wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is caught myself laying on my back more often

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Speaker 2: than on my stomach.

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Speaker 1: That's good for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so but yeah, yeah, no, man, I

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Speaker 3: think yeah, that was a great question.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I figured if I ask enough, sooner

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Speaker 1: or later, there's gonna be a great question in there somewhere.

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Speaker 1: We have been off the field and on the spot

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Speaker 1: a new segment that we have debuted with Orlando Brown Junior.

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Speaker 1: This has been a lot of fun for me. I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. Thank you so much for.

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Speaker 3: The time, Oh I had bless appreciates you.

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Speaker 1: Up next, we'll talk to Jeff Hobson about this week's

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Speaker 1: NFL League meetings. But first, here's a quick reminder that

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Speaker 1: for my conversation with Bengals dot Com editor Jeff Butch Hobson.

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Speaker 1: What you travel to Phoenix for the annual league meeting.

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Speaker 3: All of the.

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Speaker 1: NFL's power brokers were there and One of the people

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Speaker 1: that you spoke with was scheduling guru Mike North. Based

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Speaker 1: on what you wrote, I feel pretty confident in thinking

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Speaker 1: the Bengals will not have to play a primetime game

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore for the fifth consecutive year. Is that the

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Speaker 1: vibe you got from Mike?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's certainly the vibe I got from Mike.

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Speaker 4: That's the good news. The bad news is I kind

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Speaker 4: of got that vibe last year too, so but I think, uh,

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Speaker 4: uh no, this one was pretty adam it. You know,

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Speaker 4: you talk about power brokers, there was one power broker

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Speaker 4: who wasn't there, Joseph Lee Burrow, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think, uh, you know, I wrote a story earlier

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Speaker 4: in the week talking to Larry Fitzgerald about flag football

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Speaker 4: and how he has uh Roger has got Burrow's ear.

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Speaker 4: I guess where they They had a pretty good conversation

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Speaker 4: during that week out in l A about flag football.

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Speaker 5: And you know, you remember when.

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Speaker 4: Uh, the schedule came out last year and Joe and

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Speaker 4: I think he'd been traveling in Europe and he came

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Speaker 4: back and you know, he said he was disappointed they

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Speaker 4: didn't get a that we didn't get a an international game,

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Speaker 4: and I thought it was interesting that Mike said that. Well,

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Speaker 4: you know, we heard him. So let's see how much

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Speaker 4: juice Joe really has. I think he's got a lot

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Speaker 4: of juice. So I think he's got enough juice to

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Speaker 4: fuel lejit to London.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 1: So the two possibilities are Washington in London or Atlanta

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Speaker 1: in Madrid. You think one of those two things is

663
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Speaker 1: going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of read to Washington because you know

665
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Speaker 4: they're in the matchups and that's going to be uh

666
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: Burrovers Jaydon Daniels.

667
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 5: And you know, they had a shootout.

668
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: They had a prime time shootout at pay Corps a

669
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago, both LSU quarterbacks, both really you know,

670
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: exciting players. So I think I bet, uh, you know

671
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: that I would kind of that's the one I would

672
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Speaker 4: lead to just because of a matchup.

673
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Speaker 1: And that would be at the Tottenham Stadium, not at

674
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Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium. When they rebuilt the Tottenham Stadium, it was specifically,

675
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: or at least part of it was specifically for future

676
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: NFL games. In mind, it's NFL friendly, So for Bengals

677
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: fans who have been to London and are thinking well,

678
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: do I really want to go again? It would be

679
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: at least a different stadium experience to see when a Tottenham,

680
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: and that's.

681
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: Something that might I think we're play under their advantage.

682
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: For instance, in the matchup with you know, Washington, I

683
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: you know, some of the options. I think Houston is

684
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 4: a team that hasn't been to London since it hasn't

685
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 4: been overseas since twenty nineteen. The Bengals haven't been since

686
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, so I think that plays into their favor

687
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: because they haven't been there in so long.

688
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: Getting back to the Baltimore primetime thing, I wonder if

689
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: the opposite is going to happen. If the Bengals are

690
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: going to get a primetime home game against Baltimore, almost

691
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: doesn't make good after having to go there four straight times.

692
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 4: What do you think that's a good idea?

693
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 5: But you know, it's going to be a division game.

694
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: I think they really, you know, they you know, you

695
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: know the I mean, that's kind of what they've holding

696
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 4: those Thursday night games for. I think I think it's

697
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: kind of a nod to the coaches. You know, it's

698
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: a short week, everybody knows each other, you know, So yeah,

699
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: I think that's that sounds good to be Fordy. I'm

700
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 4: trying to think. I'm trying to think. The last time

701
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: I think Baltimore was in here in a primetime game

702
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: might have been the Aja Green Game when he scored

703
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: three touchdowns in the first seventeen minutes, and I think

704
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 4: he had just think he had just witnessed the delivery

705
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: of his first born.

706
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 5: I think, and so that's a long time ago it is.

707
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: You know, that's twenty eighteen.

708
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: With Joe Flacco playing quarterback for Baltimore in that game.

709
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: So Zach Taylor was available at the AFC Coaches Breakfast

710
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. He was asked a wide variety of questions

711
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: about the Bengals, including what's been going on at the

712
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: linebacker position, specifically the fact that they have not added

713
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: a free agent, at least not yet. Did you get

714
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: the impression that they tried and just didn't reach any

715
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: deals with the guys that they were interested in, or

716
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: did you get the feeling that they didn't really love

717
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: the available crop at that position this year?

718
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: You know, I think there's a little bit of both there.

719
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: I think, uh, you know, they're I think they're they're

720
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: underlying belief in this thing is that the young players

721
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: have to ascend and that they're the ones that are

722
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 4: going to get this thing over the over the top,

723
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: no matter who you are, sorrying. I mean, obviously a

724
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: mixture of both would get you over the top. But

725
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: I think they feel like the first step is Knight

726
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: and Coda have to have to have to have to have.

727
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 5: To play well, you know.

728
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: And I think they feel like, you know, they when

729
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 4: they prior prioritize this thing, it was it was edges,

730
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: it was tackles.

731
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 5: Uh it was it was like, you know, it was linebackers.

732
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, the best the best players match,

733
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: the best steels were the three Alan, Alan, Maffey and

734
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: uh Cook. And you know, I think, you know, they

735
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: spend a lot of money on those guys, and I

736
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: think the thinking is that, you know, I don't you know,

737
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: I still think they've got a lot of confidence in

738
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: the kids. They still want a veteran linebacker. But I

739
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 4: also think they think that this is a what we're

740
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: coming into the next phase the draft, uh uh OTAs

741
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: I think they're thinking, you know, people make moves after

742
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: the draft, and I think they're you know, and.

743
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 5: I think they're thinking that, you know, they.

744
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: They could be a pretty you know, they could be

745
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 4: a good you know they you know, they don't need

746
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: a superstar linebacker. I think they feel like they eat

747
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: a solid veteran guy, and I think they feel like that,

748
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: you know, there's there's time to get one, and they

749
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: didn't jump on one earlier because I think they felt

750
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: like the guys that were better were you know, we're

751
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: you know, we're Alan Mafey and Cook and Ed Flacco.

752
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: I mean Flacco was also in the in the in

753
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: the equation too, which I you know, I count that

754
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: as a big win for them because everybody wanted them back.

755
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Reagency obviously isn't finished. They just added two guys to

756
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: the secondary yesterday. We'll get to those guys in a second.

757
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: There's still some linebackers out there. Bobby Wagner ten time

758
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: Pro Bowler, but he turns thirty six in June. Matt

759
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Mulano's out there. He's had injury issues over the last

760
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: three years. Bobby o'cara kay from the Giants was a

761
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: salary cap casualty. Whether it's one of those three guys

762
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: or somebody else, do you think eventually they will add

763
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: a vet to the room.

764
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I do in some form. I mean, I

765
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: don't know, And like I said, it might not be

766
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 4: right now. It might be, it might be trading camp,

767
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: could be a waiver wire pickup. I mean, I think

768
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: it's going to happen, but I you know, I think

769
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: they're kind of looking at the draft now. I think

770
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: they're kind of keyed into that and h But I

771
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 4: you know, but I don't think they'll draft the linebacker either.

772
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I I you know, I mean, I think

773
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: obviously at ten, anything is possible because you're just at

774
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: that point you're taking the best player. But you know,

775
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: like if Sunny Styles was there, I don't think they're

776
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: going to say, well, we got two young grindbackers.

777
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 5: We're not going to take Sunny Styles. So that's not

778
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 5: going to happen.

779
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: But Sunny Styles being there isn't going to happen either.

780
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: So it might not out of the question depends on

781
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: the Giants do it five?

782
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's I mean, I keep getting the

783
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: save names when I talk to these guys who are

784
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: covering the teams that are ahead of us. But you're right,

785
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's always in those first nine.

786
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: There's always it's kind of a what you know, uh piece,

787
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to go twelve or something

788
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: or nineteen, you know, so you know, maybe maybe a

789
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: Ruben Baine or maybe a Ruben Bain or.

790
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 5: Styles is there.

791
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 4: But I don't think, you know, I don't think they're

792
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: gonna go into the second round looking for a linebacker,

793
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: you know, Like I said, I think they think and

794
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: I and I think they look at the last eight

795
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: games of the year and they see how Knight and

796
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: tired of played and alarm with the rest of the defense.

797
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 4: I mean, they were pretty you know, I mean, they

798
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: played winning football for the most pat So, you know,

799
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: I think they're hanging their hat a lot on that.

800
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: But I do know they think they still have you know,

801
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 5: that there's still work to be done.

802
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: So on Thursday, they signed safety Kyle Dugger. He's thirty

803
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: years old. He looked like an up and coming star

804
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: a few years ago. He got a huge second contract

805
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: from the Patriots, and then when you talk to him

806
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: after he signed with the Bengals, he said, the last

807
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: couple of years have been rough. What did he indicate

808
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: to you The problem was, well, he played hurt.

809
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: In twenty four.

810
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 4: He hurt his ankle earlier in the year, in twenty

811
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: twenty four in reports that came out at for that

812
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: yet now we missed three games and then he played

813
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 4: the rest of the year on it, and then it

814
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: was they said it was misdiagnosed and he ended up

815
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: having to have tightrope surgery, which is I'm not sure

816
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 4: what that is. I I don't even play a doctor

817
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: on TV, Hordy, but that's a pretty major surgery on

818
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: the ankle. And so he was, you know, he didn't

819
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 4: get many reps until trading camp. The new defense came

820
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: in with Rabel, and I'm not sure that was a fit.

821
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: You know, he played, He played a lot of the

822
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: box for Belichick and Mayo, and Rabel kind of went

823
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: the more of his own. They traded him, but they're

824
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: getting rid of all of Mayo's and Belichick's players anyway.

825
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: But so I to me, he's in the Classic, and

826
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: you know, he says in the ankle feels great. Now

827
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 4: he's gonna have a full off season with it. You know,

828
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: I thought he looked pretty good against US. You know,

829
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: he went seventy four yards seventy three ads and fairly

830
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: fairly good fat. But to me, I'm thinking Douger. You know,

831
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: that's a good, solid veteran pickup. I mean, here's a guy,

832
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: you know, looking to revive his career, the guy who's

833
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: the thirty seventh pick in the draft. You know the

834
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: year Borrow came out in twenty twenty, so you know,

835
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: they they said, look that, you know, Uh, he's a

836
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: guy who's gonna push, battle and cook. But he's a

837
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: solid veteran who's been around you know, Tarble and Belichick.

838
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: You know, he's a good He struck me as a

839
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 4: guy who's serious about his business. He says, he brings

840
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: leadership to the thing, and that's what they're.

841
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: Looking for, you know.

842
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, what's the dougur equivalent linebacker, because I

843
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 4: think that'd be a that's the kind of guy.

844
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 5: I think they're kind of looking for a dogish type

845
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 5: of guy.

846
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: And I I, you know, I think it's a uh,

847
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: you know, how many of these guys have we seen

848
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: forty This league is all about coaches and schemes, and

849
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: you get a guy who is maybe you know, he's

850
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: been hurt, maybe he hasn't been used the right way.

851
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 4: He shows up here and you know suddenly he's a

852
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: you know, he there's a different player. I mean, you know,

853
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: they're not looking for this guy to be Ed Reid.

854
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 4: But he's a solid you know, the guy's got eleven

855
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: career interceptions. I mean, he you know, he knows how

856
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 4: to go get the ball. He's good against them. I mean,

857
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: he's a physical player. He said he hasn't been. He

858
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: said he hasn't. They knows he's a better tackle than

859
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: he's been in the last couple of years. But you know,

860
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 4: I don't know who to believe Pro Football Reference or PFF.

861
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: Pro Football Reference says the guys, you know, he missed

862
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: three tackles last year, and like he played over seven

863
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: hundred snaps, So you know, that's pretty good. And you know,

864
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: let's face it, that's what they need. So I you know,

865
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of a hit him, kind

866
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: of hit him where they needed it. And if there's

867
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: a guy, if there's an equivalent like that, a linebacker,

868
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: I think they came out of it pretty well.

869
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: They did not have depth at safety, so this obviously

870
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: helps that. But I also wonder if they will wind

871
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: up playing three safety packages more with the league's trend

872
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: to two and three tight ends. With a success the

873
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: Rams had with that last year, more teams are undoubtedly

874
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: going to try it. And I wonder if part of

875
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: this signing was to be better prepared to defend that.

876
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: You know.

877
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: I think they're trying to get players and then then

878
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: and then they and then they're going to uh then

879
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 4: and then they're going to get the players, and they're

880
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 4: gonna adjust to what they can do.

881
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 5: But I think I think that's a good point.

882
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: I also think that, uh, you know, if the team

883
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: starts running around you, well, here's a guy that can

884
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, he's for the Patriots.

885
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 5: They were saying he was almost like a linebacker, you know.

886
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 4: So I think where he ran into problem problems in Pittsburgh,

887
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: I guess because remember, you know, he started the last

888
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: nine games for his Steelers and they're in the playoff runs,

889
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: you know. And now he didn't stat the wild Guide,

890
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: but I mean he did, he still played half the snaps.

891
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think he's probably not a guy

892
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: you want in space. But that's you know, I mean,

893
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 4: I mean that's okay. I mean he's still I mean,

894
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: he's still athletic enough. He can still make plays like

895
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: he did like he did against the Bengals. So yeah,

896
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a I mean, I think

897
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: it all and and the three safety thing probably kind

898
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: of you know, it's also predicated on who they get

899
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: in the slot. Who's going to be there Nickel, which

900
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: is probably the next thing you're going to talk about.

901
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: And I think that's to me, that's that's a pretty

902
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: important position that's not defined yet.

903
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they also signed Jaseer Taylor, a potential addition

904
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: as a slot corner. Right now, do you think that

905
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: that's depth behind Jalen Davis. Now this could all change

906
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: if they draft somebody to play that position, but depth

907
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: behind Jalen Davis or a potential starter over Jalen Davis,

908
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: depending on camp.

909
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 5: I think it's a carpetition.

910
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 4: I think they're going at it, you know, I think

911
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: they're probably going at it to I think I think

912
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: you Sious coveted here to win a job and Jayalen

913
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 4: just just won a job for the first time, you know,

914
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: battling you know, the classic underdog story. So he's not

915
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: going to give that up easy. Jasius coveted here on

916
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 4: a one year you know, we think he can make

917
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: the club. Yeah, I mean, he thinks he could be

918
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: the starter. So that's that's gonna be quite a battle.

919
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: That will be a that will be a storyline, certainly.

920
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: But I mean I think there's still more. I think

921
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: there's still more dominoes to fall there too. At at Nickel,

922
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: you know, because that's they don't have a lot, you know,

923
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: although they've been around a while, you know, JD is

924
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: the last link to the Super Bowl secondary. You know,

925
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 4: he still doesn't have a lot of snaps. So I think,

926
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: you know, they probably like to get a little bit

927
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: more experience there. But I think, uh, you know, and

928
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: Taylor and David should got two guys that have been around.

929
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 5: I think they you know, I think a lot too

930
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 5: hinges under draft, I think, you know, I don't.

931
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: I think no matter where they get it, I think

932
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 4: they're going to get a corner. They very well could

933
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 4: get a corner right out.

934
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: Of the gate, No doubt that could.

935
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be the tenth pick.

936
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they probably sure seems like a

937
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: draft body that I don't know, you know, they'd like

938
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: to trade out.

939
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm I'm I'm having this trouble trying

940
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: to do a.

941
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 4: I'm trying to swing a deal on the Bengals dot

942
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: Com Media Mark, and nobody's fighting at number ten. So

943
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: you know that's the problem that these guys said, Yeah, sure,

944
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: they're perfect.

945
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 5: You know, Okay, if if.

946
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: Bailey's not there, and and and Bain's not there, and

947
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: Downs isn't there, and Styles isn't.

948
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: There, you know, you know that, and you like to

949
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: get out.

950
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: You'd like to trade out and baby, get down to

951
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: fifteen and pick up a rusher and then get an

952
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 4: extra pick, you know, in the top hundred. You know, yeah,

953
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: I mean that would be you know, that's that looks

954
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 4: great our paper, but try to pull it off. You know,

955
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: that's something that wouldn't probably happen until the draft anyway.

956
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 4: But I mean, if you just sat there and took

957
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, the best player, which would probably be a corner,

958
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: then then what do you do? And then and Zack

959
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: and Zach was asked this too, would you switch Dac

960
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 4: Sill back to Nickel? And they've had Dax all over

961
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: the place, and I think he's one of the more

962
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: underrated guys in the league because he's done everything that

963
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: they've asked, every position, and it looks like a pretty

964
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 4: good outside corner though it looks like that's his best position.

965
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 5: But he's also a good nickel too.

966
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 4: So if they drafted one of those top corners, would

967
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: they put Daxon there in the slaughter or would they

968
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 4: put the would they put the rookie of the slaughter

969
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: or you know that that would be of course, all

970
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: that's to play out.

971
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: Back to safety for a moment. Brian Cook got a

972
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: three year deal, it's only a one year deal for

973
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: Doug Er. Jordan Battle's going into the final year of

974
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: his rookie contract. If Caleb Downs is there, would the

975
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: tenth pick? Would these additions that safety have any impact

976
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: whatsoever on potentially taking him?

977
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think so, because I

978
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 5: would have to believe that their board is a lot

979
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 5: like But we don't know. I mean, I don't know.

980
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: I don't know really how they think about Downs. I

981
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: think they like Downs, you know, everybody seems to like Downs, right,

982
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: But if you get him, you're gonna I have to

983
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: completely you know, you're gonna have to alter your defense

984
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: a lot, you know, because you have to fit him

985
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: what he does. I mean, he's five to ten, you know,

986
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: he's a really good nickel player. They say he's a

987
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 4: good nickel player. That's where you go with your maybe

988
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 4: three safeties. So yeah, I don't think this. I don't

989
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: think the the free agent signings would preclude them taken downs.

990
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

991
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 4: But again, I don't know. How do these guys really

992
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: feel about these guys? I hate to say it.

993
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 5: You'll know about nine o'clock.

994
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: They are hiding those cards well as they always do.

995
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 4: They always do. Yeah, yeah, remember remember Duke Tobin. Duke

996
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: Tobin is the son of a man who once had

997
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: a once, uh told me he had. They had a

998
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 4: guard dog around it round the draft board in Green Bay.

999
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: I think.

1000
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 4: So when Bill was around, I didn't really go too much.

1001
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 4: I didn't venture too much to the other draft board.

1002
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's finny. When Bill was still working for

1003
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I asked him once about the quarterback class

1004
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: that particular year, and the Bengals weren't even in the

1005
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: market for a quarterback at the time. And this was

1006
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: like months before the draft, more or less making small talk. Hey,

1007
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: what do you think of the quarterbacks in this year's draft?

1008
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: You would have thought that I asked for his bank

1009
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: account and Social Security number. I mean, he looked at

1010
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: me like, I can't believe you just asked me that question.

1011
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: Then I realized, all right, this guy does not share

1012
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: that info with anybody outside of the circle of people

1013
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: that he is working with to try to get the

1014
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: best players possible.

1015
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: It's why he was one of the greats that was.

1016
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: I remember the great scout, Frank Schmousse. I was in

1017
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: working on a job for two weeks and I said, hey, Frank,

1018
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: what do you think of that guy? That quarterback? And

1019
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 4: he goes Paul Brown pays me for my information.

1020
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: All right, I've got a final question. And it gets

1021
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: back to being at the league meeting. You're roaming around

1022
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: the Arizona builtmore, You're seeing your buddies from around the league.

1023
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: You probably enjoyed a light bear for Milla with some

1024
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: of those guys at some point. What are the other

1025
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: scribes from around the NFL asking you about the Bengals

1026
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: these days? What do they want to know about this team?

1027
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: They want to know what I was thinking when I

1028
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 4: was watching Burrow playing flag football.

1029
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 5: I said, I nothing surprised me. I knew the guy

1030
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 5: was going to try and win it. Ye, as hard

1031
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 5: as he could.

1032
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: You know, they're also uh you know, they're wondering about

1033
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 4: the defense, you know, uh, you know, and I think

1034
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 4: they you know, they they wandered over the Zach's table,

1035
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: and I think they're pretty impressed. I think the league,

1036
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 4: I think the the writers are pretty impressed with Zach.

1037
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: You know, he's a guy.

1038
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: He's out of the out of them, out of the mcveage,

1039
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 4: old and pretty calm guy, you know, no brama, and uh,

1040
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: I think you know, uh, I think what the scribes

1041
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: are talking about too is just how the the how

1042
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: the coaches just churned.

1043
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1044
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 4: I was talking to the poor guy, our man, Rich

1045
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 4: Sunnini from the Jets, and uh, you know that was a.

1046
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 5: That was that was drama too. Rich Rich asked the

1047
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 5: question of.

1048
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: Glenn and uh, it was a simple He's going to

1049
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: carry us to the promise Land answer. And the Jets

1050
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: brass panic and oh my god, how can you say that?

1051
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 4: And it's uh, you know, how could you know it was?

1052
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of drama these other cities

1053
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: hoarding that we don't get in Cincinnati, which is I

1054
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 4: think good.

1055
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 5: I did.

1056
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: Uh, it's a and you get that sense when you

1057
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: talk to the where you talk to the other guys,

1058
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: you know, and it's uh, they always know when they

1059
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: can get to the Bengals table.

1060
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 5: There's a little bit of consistency over there because.

1061
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: Since uh, in the last twenty three years, only two

1062
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 4: guys have sat at it, Marvin and Zach Taylor. And uh,

1063
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: you know, you walk into these things and sometimes you

1064
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: forget who's where. Oh, that's right, mentors in Baltimore. Oh

1065
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: oh yeah, oh it's Herbs. I can talk to he's

1066
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: with the Giants. I can talk to him about Flacco,

1067
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, it's it's and then you see

1068
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: guys who were then you realize you're seeing guys who

1069
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 4: were probably you know. You know, it's funny that is

1070
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: nobody as young as Zach was when he was in

1071
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: his first year.

1072
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 5: But these are guys that.

1073
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: Are coming out, you know, they're coming out in their

1074
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 4: late thirties and early forties, and they're asked to do

1075
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: a very tough job.

1076
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 5: And it's I tell you hard to keep track of them,

1077
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 5: you know.

1078
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's eight, nine, ten changes a year,

1079
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 4: and you know, people are al and I know how

1080
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 4: the fans are and it's just uh, let me tell you,

1081
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 4: grass isn't always greater.

1082
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor scores points.

1083
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. But I appreciate your time. I

1084
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: know you got a little cold flying back and forth

1085
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: from Arizona. I hope that clears up in the next

1086
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: day or two and look forward to seeing you soon.

1087
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 5: Thanks very much.

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