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Speaker 2: This is after you put out nasal you want to be?

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Speaker 3: So it kind of all started, you know, at the

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Speaker 4: Because number one is this adult rap music coming from Miami.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Kids, It wasn't tell the

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Speaker 1: So it was okay when it was the black kids.

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Speaker 3: So when it got the South Dakota there was a problem.

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Speaker 3: When they Killer playing, then I got dad exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: This Killer is in here, pop that the album covered

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Speaker 2: That's what you are, damn right, That's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened exactly. Then let us start coming in.

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Speaker 1: That's when wait a minute, you're getting letters personally from

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Speaker 3: It took the time to write it left exactly.

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Speaker 3: I'm distributing and manufacturing and producing. I'm doing that.

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Speaker 3: This is unheard of. Eighty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pop that pussy. It was all everyone.

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Speaker 3: Like aybody, anybody guy locking you up like a head

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Speaker 4: And so that that whole case was about free speech,

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Speaker 3: So it was a real significant case all for.

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