WEBVTT - The Heritage Foundation's Anti-Trans Booklets

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to it could happen here. My name is Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>I am joined by James Stout and Nia Wong to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some of our favorite people to hate, the

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<v Speaker 2>Heritage Foundation. Hello everybody, Hi Garrison.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Oh god, I got brought in talk the Heritage Foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, what a week? What a week? So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>people have been talking a lot about the Heritage Foundation's

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<v Speaker 2>Project twenty twenty five because it is a massive, massive

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<v Speaker 2>document that is honestly too long to actually read, but

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<v Speaker 2>it does. It does focus on LGBTQ issues for a

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<v Speaker 2>decent a decent chunk of the book, mainly finding different

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<v Speaker 2>ways to both legalize and protect discrimination against LGBTQ people

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<v Speaker 2>and like banning the public presence of LGBTQ materials deemed

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<v Speaker 2>deemed pornographic in public life, especially a schools, libraries, all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. Right, It's kind of this nationwide

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<v Speaker 2>don't say gay bill type thing, along with legalizing it

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<v Speaker 2>and protecting people's people's right to discriminate against for people.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of the bulk of the of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the tactics that are laid out in the Heritage

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<v Speaker 2>Foundation's Project twenty twenty five. But Trump and a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of Republicans have been doing a lot of work

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<v Speaker 2>to distance themselves from this document. At the RNC, I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of surprised that, like, I did not hear

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<v Speaker 2>a single, a single mention of Project twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>unless I was the one to bring it up when

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<v Speaker 2>talking with people. They didn't. They didn't like talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it because they know it's kind of this, like this

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<v Speaker 2>toxic thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of showed their power level to use an

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<v Speaker 2>ancient phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, who could possibly have guessed for the document where

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<v Speaker 3>they talk about bringing back the gold standard was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be unpopular with literally everyone, including their own base.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>it's unpopular. I think it's all of like the dictator

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<v Speaker 2>fascism stuff. But the gold standard bit's pretty funny. Even

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<v Speaker 2>at the Heritage Foundation booth, not a peep about Project

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. It's like the biggest thing they've done

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<v Speaker 2>in like the in the last decade. Arguably, not a

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<v Speaker 2>single peep. But they did have a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>other like merch, a whole bunch of little pamphlets. Papers.

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<v Speaker 2>I love papers, I love little documents.

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<v Speaker 4>Little ephemera, printed epemera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love collecting all this little stuff. And it

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<v Speaker 2>just sits on a pile on my desk for like,

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<v Speaker 2>way too long. And in this case, it's set on

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<v Speaker 2>a pile on my desk for about two months and

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<v Speaker 2>the pile became too big and too unruly. And now

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to actually go through the pile of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>right and talk about the types of things that the

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<v Speaker 2>Heritage Foundation actually did have out on their table, specifically

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<v Speaker 2>relating to gender identity. Oh good, which is their term

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<v Speaker 2>of choice for these issues. Now, Like gender identity quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote transgender ism were were frequent talking points at the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican National Convention, way more so than the Democratic National Convention,

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<v Speaker 2>in which they were kind of just brushed aside as

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<v Speaker 2>a political inconvenience. But at the R and C these

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<v Speaker 2>things were front and center. Almost every single person giving

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<v Speaker 2>a speech on the main stage at least name dropped

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<v Speaker 2>gender ideology in some way to receive thunderous applause from

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd. So it certainly was a very common topic

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<v Speaker 2>brought up. And here's what the actual literature that was

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<v Speaker 2>proliferating at the event had to say about it. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's start. Let's start penphlet number one, how to speak

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<v Speaker 2>up about gender identity, Questions and answers driving the debate,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a debate. Is the first thing we want?

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<v Speaker 2>We need to know about gender identity? Again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>just reading out all of their propaganda. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>is some use in actually learning what they're saying in

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<v Speaker 2>like their biggest convention and then actually not like debunking

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<v Speaker 2>because like, come on, I know who are audiences, but

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<v Speaker 2>at least actually laying out what they're saying and how

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<v Speaker 2>it relates to like the actual information I think does

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<v Speaker 2>does have sub use. So will I will be quoting

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<v Speaker 2>from the Heritage Foundation saying some pretty stupid things, but

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<v Speaker 2>then we will kind of springboard discussion, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>have some little effect checks on some of the like

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<v Speaker 2>these very common lies that you're now seeing like get

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<v Speaker 2>repeated so often you may be trying to be tricked

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<v Speaker 2>into thinking that they are real. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>tackle the quote unquote the big questions, what are sex,

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<v Speaker 2>gender and gender identity. I'm sure this five page pamphlet

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<v Speaker 2>will tell me all I need to know about the

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<v Speaker 2>topics of what our sex gender, gender identity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can't wait to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>They figured it out. They figured it out, there's this

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<v Speaker 2>Centuries long discussions have been resolved. What do gender dyspory

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<v Speaker 2>and transgender mean? And how do gender identity policies affect

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<v Speaker 2>me and my community? I think this is largely targeted

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<v Speaker 2>towards like I mean, it's turned towards people at the RNC,

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<v Speaker 2>so like people in like their sixties, like grandparents.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, is this so how to talk to your friend

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<v Speaker 4>about the transgenders book? Kind of?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of it's more so like, oh, no, your grandkids

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<v Speaker 2>are maybe a little gay with it?

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<v Speaker 4>Grandchild?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly? What does that mean? What is that about? I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's kind of what the main the main demographic is. Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. The common understanding that there are only

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<v Speaker 2>two sexes and human beings male and female, determined by

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<v Speaker 2>each person's biology, has been the cultural norm and the

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<v Speaker 2>basis for our laws since our nation's founding. Though, has it?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to do this because I will take

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<v Speaker 4>fucking an hour, but this isn't true.

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<v Speaker 2>It will? I know. Obviously they're not going to mention

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<v Speaker 2>intersex people. They're not going to mention any any of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or that like every indigenous culture has multiple gender words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, no, no, no, we'll just leave that out because

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<v Speaker 2>only recently have we seen a shift away from this

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<v Speaker 2>objective and scientific no citation understanding towards an ideology that

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<v Speaker 2>says a person's gender is determined by what they believe

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<v Speaker 2>they are parenthesis gender identity rather than their biological sex,

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<v Speaker 2>and should be legally recognized. The transgender movement has rapidly

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<v Speaker 2>advanced laws and policies that give special rights and protections

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<v Speaker 2>to some people while infringing on the rights of others. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a talking point that was brought up a

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<v Speaker 2>lot when I was a kid around trans people. How

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<v Speaker 2>they have special laws that give them more rights than

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<v Speaker 2>your average person. And that's why, like a good like

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<v Speaker 2>conservative basis should be opposed to them, even if you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an accepting you may not like agree with them,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not going to kill them, but they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have like extra rights. That was a big thing is framing,

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<v Speaker 2>Framing things that either protect trans people from discrimination or

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<v Speaker 2>framing things that ensure their healthcare as like special extra

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<v Speaker 2>rights not provided to like regular regular Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is like a huge thing with just the

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<v Speaker 3>basis of all political conservatism is they all believe that,

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<v Speaker 3>like like, they all believe that immigrants have like a

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<v Speaker 3>secret healthcare system that they have access to, and that

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<v Speaker 3>like black people have like welfare, and that like indigenous

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<v Speaker 3>people get into schools for free.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just like yep, No, it's all based on

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<v Speaker 2>never talking to anyone who isn't like you. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 2>addressing the conflicts that emerge. In addressing the conflicts that emerge,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? The government must protect everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>rights and fundamental freedoms. The introduction of the concept of

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<v Speaker 2>gender identity into recent legislation raises concerns about privacy, safety, fairness, liberty,

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<v Speaker 2>and its impact on children. It threatens the freedom of

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<v Speaker 2>religion and conscience. What the freedom of conscience?

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<v Speaker 4>What is mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's not just a religious objection. My conscience tells

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<v Speaker 2>me that trans people are icky.

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<v Speaker 3>Tells me I should have this person's house. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>let me have it? I mean it should yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, my gons just tells me a whole lot

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<v Speaker 4>of shit. It means you can't not like trans people.

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<v Speaker 4>The government's going to come for you if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>like trans people.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what they mean? I think they are legitimately

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<v Speaker 2>scared of that. Yeah, okay, but it also threatens freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of speech, equal protection, and parental rights. This radical redefinition

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<v Speaker 2>of sex could dramatically alter our society, creating significant disadvantages

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<v Speaker 2>for some, particularly women and girls. Okay, all right, so

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<v Speaker 2>there we go. There that's that's that is. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the introduction. Now onto page two. All individuals have human

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<v Speaker 2>dignity and should be treated with respect citation needed, including

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<v Speaker 2>those who identify as transgender and know they're very careful

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<v Speaker 2>to never actually say trans people a transgender people. There's

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<v Speaker 2>people who identify transgender, and there's there's transgender activists and

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<v Speaker 2>gender ideology activists. They take great care to never actually

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<v Speaker 2>say trans people are doing this. They say transactivists are

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<v Speaker 2>doing this, right, increates this degree of separation. That's one

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a little rhetorical tactic that I noticed when

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<v Speaker 2>first looking through this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's this also kind of a legacy

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<v Speaker 3>of the sort of trans tipping point and how accepted

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<v Speaker 3>things had gotten. We're like, I remember this with like

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Jones in like like even like twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three would say, like the most transphobic thing

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<v Speaker 3>you've ever heard, but it would be prefaced with some

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<v Speaker 3>trans people are fine people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean this to take people then say like

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<v Speaker 2>coming to rape your dog or something. Yeah, yeah, anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But by labeling realistic concerns and scientific objections as oppressive,

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<v Speaker 2>transgender activists have shut down open, robust dialogue over the

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<v Speaker 2>consequences of gender ideology and gender identity policies. The serious

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<v Speaker 2>real world effects of gender identity policies on individuals and

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<v Speaker 2>communities must be taken into consideration. Many treatments promoted by

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<v Speaker 2>transgender activists are untested, can cause serious side effects, and

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<v Speaker 2>come with irreversible developmental consequences when performed on children. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is my first kind of pause, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is a claim that we've been seeing, i would say,

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<v Speaker 2>at an increasing rate ever since Matt Walsh's documentary. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like one thing that he really tried to like

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<v Speaker 2>invent specifically that like quote unquote like puberty blockers cause

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<v Speaker 2>like sterilization and like, yeah, you can't reproduce when you're

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<v Speaker 2>on them, obviously, but you can when you go off them.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's something that like they never talk about. They

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<v Speaker 2>frame it as like this permanent thing. Samantha Rosenthal has

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<v Speaker 2>an independent piece in the La Times that talks about

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<v Speaker 2>like the very long history of trans healthcare in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. Modern trans healthcare goes back to the nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>and hormone therapy has been used to assist cisgender children

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<v Speaker 2>in puberty since at least the nineteen forties. These these

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<v Speaker 2>things are not untested. These are medical practices with a

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<v Speaker 2>long history. And saying that there's there's irreversible developmental consequences

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<v Speaker 2>when performed on children, like the FDA approved hormone blockers

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<v Speaker 2>for children back in nineteen ninety three. We've been using

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<v Speaker 2>these for quite a long time, and these false claims

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<v Speaker 2>are actually causing some like significant harm. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>quote from ABC News here. Quote. England's National Health Service

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<v Speaker 2>has banned the use of puberty blockers for the treatment

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<v Speaker 2>of gendernyspia, or gender incongruence in transgender minors. The NHS

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<v Speaker 2>has not stated it will restrict puberty blockers for non

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<v Speaker 2>transgender children and young people. An NHS bookesperson told ABC

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<v Speaker 2>News the agency hopes to have a study into the

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<v Speaker 2>use of puberty blockers in place by December of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>with eligibility criteria yet to be decided unquote. So they

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<v Speaker 2>are just like starting to ban these. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen this in the United States as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is like the National Health Service. This is like

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<v Speaker 2>a really a really big organization that's only banning it

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<v Speaker 2>for trans people, not for cis gender children. So like

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<v Speaker 2>it's really devastating.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's important to note too that this is

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<v Speaker 3>the exact one of the exact same lines that anti

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<v Speaker 3>vaxxers use, and you know that's anti vax campaigns have

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<v Speaker 3>been a lot of these sort of model for how

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<v Speaker 3>how a tax and TRANSOUTHCIA works. But like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is literally the line that these same people

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<v Speaker 3>will say about vaccines. It's like, oh, the RNA vaccine

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<v Speaker 3>is like untested. Yeah, we tested in a motion of

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<v Speaker 3>population and everyone's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I did a clinical trial for COVID

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<v Speaker 4>vaccines before they were ready, did thousands of other people?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No. And in terms of puberty blockers, these have

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<v Speaker 2>been used and tested for decades, Like these are not

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<v Speaker 2>a new technology.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's even funnier because again it's like, well, well okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so like we we will give them to CIST children.

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<v Speaker 2>With this stuff. It shows I think it is I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I read one other quote from a s ABC article

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<v Speaker 2>quote The Endocrine Society and a national organization of more

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<v Speaker 2>than eighteen thousand ender chronologists, calls the medication quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>fully reversible. Once blockers are stopped, puberty continues with little

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<v Speaker 2>to no proven side effects, according to health professionals unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a recent study in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>in the journal Jama which found the use of puberty

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<v Speaker 2>blocking drugs did not lead to an increased chance of

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<v Speaker 2>receiving gender affirming therapy in the future, and actually we're

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<v Speaker 2>slightly less likely to given the extra time to explore

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<v Speaker 2>gender in the body without the onset of irreversible effects

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<v Speaker 2>of puberty. Possible bone density losses largely remediated upon the

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<v Speaker 2>presence of sex hormones, whether from either just to ceasing

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<v Speaker 2>the blockers or starting HRT. And this study also says

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<v Speaker 2>at the end that perhaps we should just stop using

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<v Speaker 2>the term puberty blocker, because it makes it sound like

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<v Speaker 2>it just completely blocks puberty, like from ever happening, like

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<v Speaker 2>it just is like now you don't go through puberty,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead opts to say, like, maybe we should just

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<v Speaker 2>describe what the drug does mechanistically and clinically, because maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe puberty blockers is just a it implies something more

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<v Speaker 2>than what the drug actually like does temporarily. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I found that to be an interesting note. And the

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<v Speaker 2>whole point of of and this something well probably talk

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<v Speaker 2>about later. The whole point of this drug is so

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<v Speaker 2>that you can have more time to actually decide what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do with your body and your gender.

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<v Speaker 2>And most people that do go on blockers, whether SIS

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<v Speaker 2>or not, are doing it to prevent irreversible changes from puberty.

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<v Speaker 2>And most people opt to not actually go on cross

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<v Speaker 2>sex hormones. And that's like a successful treatment, Like that

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<v Speaker 2>is that that is what the drug is supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's definitely this idea among these like anti transactivists

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<v Speaker 2>that like, if you go on blockers, that means you're

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<v Speaker 2>more likely to become quote unquote like fully trends in

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<v Speaker 2>the future, which also just like isn't true. But do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what is reversible.

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<v Speaker 3>Not liking their products and services and support this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You can reverse that and make it so you really

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<v Speaker 2>like them, which helps us a little bit. Probably, I assume.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't think so, I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do the business thing. Anyway, here are the ads. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we are back. Let's uh, let let's continue with this

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<v Speaker 2>fine literature from our good enemies at the Heritage Foundation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Great art and layout.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm noticing. It's it is. It is very

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<v Speaker 2>well designed. Yeah, there's these there are some children, these

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<v Speaker 2>poor kids, these poor stock photos of children. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure they gave the heartfelt consent to being used

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<v Speaker 4>in it hate propaganda.

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<v Speaker 2>The next section is called what are sex, gender and

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<v Speaker 2>gender identity? The best biology, psychology, and philosophy all support

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<v Speaker 2>and understanding that sex is a bodily reality and that

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<v Speaker 2>gender is a social manifestation of bodily sex. The best biology.

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<v Speaker 2>That's simply the best philosophy. Oh my gods. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>claim actually does have a citation, so it's true. Now

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<v Speaker 2>let me check the citation. The citation is oh oh

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<v Speaker 2>oh wait, wait wait oh. The citation is when Harry

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<v Speaker 2>became Sally responding to the transgender movement, The Anti trans

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<v Speaker 2>Book of twenty eighteen by Ryan T. Anderson. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a real philosophy, biology or psychology book. Oh okay, well.

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<v Speaker 4>He won best Philosopher anyway, I don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The best all agree, that's so good now. Sex Sex

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<v Speaker 2>is a biological reality referring to an organism's overall organization

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<v Speaker 2>towards sexual reproduction in human beings, just like every other

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<v Speaker 2>species that's sexually rep This organism includes the chromosomes we

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<v Speaker 2>inherit from our parents and the reproductive organs systems sheenitalia

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<v Speaker 2>and hormones that developed. As a consequence. As there are

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<v Speaker 2>two reproductive systems, there are two sexes, just like every

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<v Speaker 2>other species that sectually reproduces. This is completely consistent. I

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<v Speaker 2>get no citation because that's not That is not how

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<v Speaker 2>biology actually works. No, nor is your genitalia necessarily determined

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<v Speaker 2>by your chromosomes. Nope? But sure, why not the best biology?

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<v Speaker 2>All support this understanding there, Yeah, the best biology from

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<v Speaker 2>a first grade textbook. Ye.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, that's unfair to first grade textbooks, which are largely

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<v Speaker 3>blameless in this matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It is unfair.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No one's sticking genitalia in a first grade textbook.

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<v Speaker 2>This organization. Isn't just the best way to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>which sex you are, it's the only way to make

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<v Speaker 2>sense of the concepts of male and female. Really really,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah the way. Yeah, What an interesting sociological statement made

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<v Speaker 2>by the Heritage Foundation that the only differences are purely

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<v Speaker 2>mechanistical and there really is no social basis that determines

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<v Speaker 2>what the concepts in male and female relate to. What

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting opinion that I'm sure is consistent across all

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<v Speaker 2>of the Heritage Foundations.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it's going to say, you can pull out

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<v Speaker 4>another booklet and call them on their shit with their

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<v Speaker 4>own words.

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<v Speaker 2>Gender, by contrast, is the way one expresses their biological sex.

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<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't pretend that there are no differences between male

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<v Speaker 2>and female, because biological reality is that there are. We

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<v Speaker 2>also shouldn't be trapped in rigid gender stereotypes. Transgender activists

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<v Speaker 2>deny that sex is a bodily reality. They argue, once

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<v Speaker 2>it's perceived, gender I entity represents to a person really is,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it goes against their biological sex. They deny

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<v Speaker 2>their biological reality by suggesting that biological sex was merely

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<v Speaker 2>assigned at birth. A little known fun fact, you actually

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<v Speaker 2>can like scientifically change your biological sex. Yeah, rules, it

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<v Speaker 2>takes a little bit of time, it takes a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of effort, but your biological sex can actually just

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<v Speaker 2>be like a completely changed. This is something that is

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<v Speaker 2>not like set.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, there is literally, there is literally physically a document

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<v Speaker 3>where your doctor assigns.

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<v Speaker 2>You a sex birth. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it is a box that they must tick. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not even like a not a line that they get

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<v Speaker 4>to write in whatever they want, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, But the cool thing is is that when

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<v Speaker 2>you change with sex hormones your body is dominant in

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<v Speaker 2>it actually changes the sex and the functions of your body.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty interesting stuff. Actually, I don't care about my chromosomes,

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<v Speaker 2>but as soon as we want to do more gene tampering,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that that could be fun, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really care. You can also change body parts, so that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they're working on those womb transplants, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not into that freaky stuff anyway. According to the American

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<v Speaker 2>Psychological Association, gender identity refers to a person's internal sense

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<v Speaker 2>of being male, female, or something else, hey, something else nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It is distinct from either sex or gender. Activists claim

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<v Speaker 2>that it is a person's internal sense of gender, activists claim.

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<v Speaker 2>They also assert that it's more than just male or female.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fluid, and there's a spectrum of various options beyond

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<v Speaker 2>man and woman, like a gender fluid, intergender, or non binary.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard the term intergender before.

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<v Speaker 4>That's yeah, that's it's a new one. But I guess

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<v Speaker 4>if that knowledge the existence of intersex people, that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of fucks up the premise of that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this is inter maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, but yeah, maybe maybe that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't say intersect. Yeah, that destroys their whole ship.

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<v Speaker 3>They've trisposed.

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<v Speaker 2>Intersex isn't like an identity, it's like an actual, like

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<v Speaker 2>completely like medical thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that they fully understand this shit, Garrison.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, You're sorry, Sorry, I forgot. I'm reading from

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<v Speaker 2>a heritage.

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<v Speaker 4>They may be coming from a place of hate.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about gender dysphoria, now, let's gender

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<v Speaker 2>dysphoria refers to the distress someone experiences when they have

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<v Speaker 2>a disconnection between their bodily sex and internal sense of gender.

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<v Speaker 2>The diagnostic label gender identity disorder was used by the

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<v Speaker 2>DSM until it's reclassification as a gender dysphoria in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen with the release of the DSM five. They really

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<v Speaker 2>want that old DSM back. They want it so bad

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<v Speaker 2>before the DSM went woke. They really want DSM four.

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<v Speaker 2>Transgender can refer to a man who identifies as a

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<v Speaker 2>woman or a woman who identifies as man some activists.

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<v Speaker 2>Some activists go so far as to say that a

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<v Speaker 2>trans woman is a woman. Crazy. Not all people who

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<v Speaker 2>suffer from gender dysphoria identify as transgender, Not everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>dentifies as transgender except from gender dysphoria. Surprisingly woke statement.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a surprisingly controversial and woke statement from Heritage Foundation here,

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<v Speaker 2>anti transman, anti truth, coum a foundation, What the fuck base?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the seven people who get that. You're welcome for

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else. I swear to God, that's very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little funny. Oh funny. I was workshopping some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like Tumblr post style joke. But I still

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<v Speaker 2>have like two pages of this pamphlet. So now, how

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<v Speaker 2>do gender identity policies affect me and my community? The

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<v Speaker 2>question on every Republican grandparents mind. The first area of

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<v Speaker 2>concern privacy. Privacy concerns arise when a men who identify

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<v Speaker 2>you as women can enter female only spaces, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>changing rooms, gym class. They're doing bathroom stuff, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing. The reason we have separate facilities in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place is not because of a gender identity, but

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<v Speaker 2>because of the bodily difference between males and females. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what happens when some of those bodily differences

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<v Speaker 2>start to change, or your social rules in mel fem

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<v Speaker 2>walill also change, Like a young trans girl going into

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<v Speaker 2>the men's bathroom. That could maybe a little bit uncomfortable anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Preventing sexual assault is another major area of concern when

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<v Speaker 2>gender identity determines who may enter a women only space.

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<v Speaker 2>Public safety experts such as Kenneth V. Lanning, former FBI

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<v Speaker 2>Supervisory Special Agent assigned to the Behavioral Science Unit. They're

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<v Speaker 2>doing the Buffalo Bill at the National Center for the

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<v Speaker 2>Analysis of Violent Crime at the FBI Academy for over

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years. It is just the Buffalo Bill. Guy explains

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<v Speaker 2>that predators abuse gender and the policies to gain access

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<v Speaker 2>to victims. While victims law enforcement become less likely to

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<v Speaker 2>report incidents for fear of having misunderstood and being accused

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<v Speaker 2>of discrimination. The primary concern is not that people who

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<v Speaker 2>identify as trends will victimize women, but that predators will

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<v Speaker 2>exploit to gender identity policies to do so. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting. They're actually not doing all trans women are

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<v Speaker 2>secretly rapists. They are doing the what is actually more

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<v Speaker 2>like more legit is that no, like men will be

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up and men will like do fucked up shit.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is they don't need those policies to do

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up shit. Men will do it regardless.

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<v Speaker 3>You are the Heritage Foundation, your your base, your entire

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<v Speaker 3>base are chuck is composed of churches who do this

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<v Speaker 3>literally every day, Like come on, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>But I find it interesting that they take this line

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<v Speaker 2>of approach.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, this pamphlet feels like a much more

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<v Speaker 3>sort of moderate So this feels like a gateway thing

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<v Speaker 3>versus like the stuff that they're so that they actually believe,

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<v Speaker 3>or like the sort of like more hardcore stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>they they distribute.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not sure how to how to segue to

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<v Speaker 2>an ad break from this one. I'll be honest, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what else the Heritage Foundation supports. Oh well, that is

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<v Speaker 2>true capitalism and these ads that help fuel the turning

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<v Speaker 2>machine of death and suffering. Haha, Okay, we are back.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about fairness. Gener Entity creates an unfairness when

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<v Speaker 2>biological males. Biological males compete against females in sports and

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<v Speaker 2>other activities. It also reduces girdle chances of winning athletic scholarships.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea fucking title nine defense every.

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<v Speaker 2>Time scholar I'm sure all those trends girls are taken

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<v Speaker 2>of all the scholarships.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's just let's just see where the Heritage Foundation

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<v Speaker 4>stood on fucking title nine, shall we when that came in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they were totally supportive. Already, several high school

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<v Speaker 2>girls have lost state championships. Is to quote boys who

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<v Speaker 2>were allowed to compete against them. These two boys have

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<v Speaker 2>won fifteen girls state championships that were held by ten

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<v Speaker 2>females in the previous year. I tried to search some

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<v Speaker 2>of these keywords to find exactly what they were talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The first result was from the reputable news publication the

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<v Speaker 2>Daily Signal, which is a Heritage Foundation puppet site, and

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<v Speaker 2>the article is just listing like a handful of like

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<v Speaker 2>trans girls across the country who participated in school sports.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's like, that's like all it is. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of particular interest to James this next sentence, Oh, god,

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<v Speaker 2>fucking man who identifies this some transgender? Well that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting one. A man who identifies as a transgender

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<v Speaker 2>has also won the women's cycling World's title.

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<v Speaker 4>I know who they're talking about here. This is someone

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<v Speaker 4>called for Runica Ivy. She was formerly known as Raychel

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<v Speaker 4>mccannon when she won the world title. Okay, she won

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<v Speaker 4>a UCI Women's Master's Track World Championship. If you want

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<v Speaker 4>to find an event where gender affirming hormones are used

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<v Speaker 4>on a regular basis, I suggest you check out the

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<v Speaker 4>Men's Masters World Championship because every fucking year one of

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 4>those dudes gets popped for using testosterone. And like, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't see that in the Heritage Foundation's complaints, Like this

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<v Speaker 4>is just asshole, really, they've she has been a particular

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 4>target for these people. Cycling has been a particular target

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<v Speaker 4>for these people for a very long time, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>very funny that they continue to like put out this

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 4>propaganda which completely misunderstands, like the things that let you

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<v Speaker 4>win the Master's track World Championship are having money and

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<v Speaker 4>having time, Like it is inherently unfair. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 4>hobby sport, right, thirty five to forty four. There are

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 4>not professional athletes in that age group, like the people

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<v Speaker 4>doing this. So the people who have the time and

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 4>the money, they buy the fancy bikes, they travel to

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 4>the race. It's if you care, If you care about

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<v Speaker 4>fairness in master's cycling, there are a million other places

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<v Speaker 4>to go after it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is bullshit. Well it's so it's so transparent because

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<v Speaker 2>now the biggest trans sports controversy has been over a

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>cist gender woman who just is appearing too masculine, right

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like, like the biggest thing, the biggest controversy in this whole

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<v Speaker 2>trans women and sports thing at the Olympics ear earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this year is just actually a cist gender woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's the whole thing, right Like, policing the

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<v Speaker 4>way people present their gender is what this is about

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 4>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're willing to throw anyone under the bus

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.719
<v Speaker 2>as long as it like puts forward like whatever disinformation

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>they want with the soul purpose of just changing public opinion,

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>not actually like caring about any of the people involved here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but like a return to like I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>think traditional gender roles, but like, let's just say nineteen

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 4>thirties gender roles, not even nineteen thirties, right, women fighting

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 4>in the spanishl War in the nineteen thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Victorian England gender rules.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, totally, Like it is what they want, and like

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<v Speaker 4>they're not throwing imonically funded a bus so much. She

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 4>is part of a target because she's not a girly

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 4>enough girl, right, she's a woman who punches other people

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 4>in the face, and like that's not collateral damage to me.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Like that is part of their thing, right, Yeah, it's

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 4>not coincidental, but it was a boxer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of their larger political project. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and obviously it's also their conception of womanhood is

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<v Speaker 3>also highly racialized, yes, obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not coincidental there's an African woman, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, many of the trans girls who are listed in

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the Daily Signal article or transgirls of color that, yeah,

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>that is who they're going after. They're going after like

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<v Speaker 2>the most oppressed person and you can be in the country. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now onto onto one of our final chapters how transgenderism

0:29:55.200 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 2>affects your personal liberty transgenderism. That's a good one. Trans

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Gender policies also violate our freedom of speech and freedom

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 2>of conscience by forcing people to speak or act in

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 2>ways contrary to their personal judgment and deeply held beliefs.

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<v Speaker 2>In New York City, you can be fined up to

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for misgendering. What's the

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>citation that they do have a citation? Okay, hit me,

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>they do, go to the NYC Commission, and this isn't true.

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Despite the citation, they're trying to take like a city

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<v Speaker 2>ordinance and twist it to make it sound like you

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 2>will be fined a quarter of a million dollars for

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>calling someone the wrong pronouns. And that's not what the

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<v Speaker 2>audience is. Yeah, it's employment law, right correct. It was

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>first written in the early two thousands. It was then

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<v Speaker 2>revised in twenty fifteen. I'm going to quote from Snopes

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 2>quote discrimination it gets a transgender individual could resultant finds

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<v Speaker 2>to up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. But

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 2>these fines won't be handed out for accidentally misusing pronouns.

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>According to the new guidelines, the Commission can impose civil

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>penalties up to one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>for violations of the law, and extreme circumstances two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty thousand for violations that are the result of wilful,

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>wanton and malicious conduct. Yeah, this is for like employment discrimination.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, employment discrimination happens literally all the time, and it

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<v Speaker 3>never there's almost ever conspluses for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's where this number comes from, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's completely misleading to suggest it like the work

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<v Speaker 4>police to get to find you.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, And it's not for misusing pronouns. It's for like

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>extreme cases of like continuous harassment or like like like

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>legal discrimination. The next sentence is, quote, both a high

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>school teacher and a college professor have been sanctioned by

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<v Speaker 2>their employers for using biologically correct terms with their students.

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<v Speaker 4>Se Jordan Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, obviously those terms are not biologically correct because you

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>can scientifically change your biological sex. And what they're talking

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>about here is no just teachers who are just like

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>harassing their students, who are like calling them by like

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the wrong name, calling them by the wrong pronouns, like

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 2>if you did that like assist person over time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you would also get in trouble because that's just like harassment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, and like you're just a shit teacher. If

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 4>you're fucking going after your students for who they are,

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 4>then yeah, you probably shouldn't be a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>They then talk about how transactivists are trying to get

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>medical providers to provide like gender firming health care. They're

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 2>complaining how Catholic hospitals are getting in trouble for not

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>wanting to do gender firming health care. They talk about

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<v Speaker 2>like an Obama mandate that forces health care plans to

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<v Speaker 2>cover gender firming health care and making sure that physicians

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>actually have to do it even if they personally like

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be like no, this is like your job.

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>You have to provide health care. So they complain about

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff, and then the last section

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<v Speaker 2>of the pamphlet is on child development. TRANSNT ideology is

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<v Speaker 2>now promoted in schools where children are taught that gender

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<v Speaker 2>is fluid, falls along a spectrum, and is detached from

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>bodily sex. In addition, activists seek to punish anyone who

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>expresses anyone'serveces about radical treatment plans for gender dysphoric children.

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<v Speaker 2>These plans can include socially transitioning children as young as four,

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>administering puberty blocking drugs as young as nine, cross sex

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>hormones as a young as fourteen, and surgery as young

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>as eighteen. This ideology threatens parental rights. In Ohio, a

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic family lost custody of their daughter when they oppose

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>treatment of gender dysphoria with cross sex hormones. So, actually,

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 2>this is actually a pretty good breakdown of like how

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<v Speaker 2>gender like affirming healthcare could work. Is Yeah, if a

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>kid wants to like socially start transitioning very young and

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>they want to, yes, that's great, there's no harm in that.

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>If getting on puberty blockers at around nine, that makes sense,

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>hormones as a teenager, yeah, and surgery maybe a little

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>bit later. Yeah, that all seems quite quite reasonable. And

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>in terms of this Catholic family, So a transfer of

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 2>parents lost custody of their seventeen year old trans son

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen after inducing suicidal idea for refusing to

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>let their child receive hormone therapy prescribed by a medical

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>team who had been treating the child for two years.

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Custody was transferred to his grandparents. So this wasn't the

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>state just like stealing this child away. It's like, no,

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>you're like basically abusing this kid, So we're going to

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>move custody over to the grandparents. Also, like you're opposing

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>this for a seventeen year old, this is almost like

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<v Speaker 2>a full legal adult. I'm going to qute from CNN here. Quote.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>The parents' attorney had argued that the child was not

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<v Speaker 2>even quote close to being able to make such a

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 2>life altering decision at this time. Unquote. The county prosecuting

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 2>attorney argued that the parents wanted to stop the treatment

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 2>because it violated their religious beliefs unquote. So yeah, you're

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 2>so scared that this seventeen year old is going to

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<v Speaker 2>make a choice that you personally find a little bit icky,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Like ka'bah.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can legally I emantipate yourself

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 4>at seventeen, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and usually you have like medical freedom, at least

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>in an Oregon you have medical freedom at sixteen. I

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the case by case basis is in

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of states. Yeah, but that's that's pretty fucked up. Now,

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>there is nothing in coverage about this family being Catholic

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 2>heritage might be conflating this other story from Indiana where

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Catholic family lost custody of their transkid in twenty twenty

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 2>one for alleged child abuse, and then earlier this year,

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court declined to hear the parents' case. So

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 2>so there you go, big health for them. They then

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>talk about quote unquote research, what the research says about transition.

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>The view that social medical transition is the appropriate treatment

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>for people, including children, who feel at odds with their

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>biological sex, is becoming more widely accepted. However, transitioning treatment,

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 2>including puberty blocking hormones for children and sex change surgeries

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>for teens and adults, come with serious consequences. Today, parents

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>are told that puberty blockers and cross sex hormones may

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>be the only way to prevent their child from committing suicide. However,

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 2>according to the DSM five, as many as ninety eight

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>percent of gender confused boys and eighty eight percent of

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 2>gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 2>passing through puberty. Okay, let's go over this because there's

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>some weird phrasing here, Because no, that's not it. That's

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>all with the DSM, actually, says A writer named Micah

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 2>b broke down this claim in a medium post from

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.479
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen. This exact sentence has been reusing a lot

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>of like writing publications over time, so accept their biological

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>sex after naturally passing through puberty. It's a very like

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 2>loaded phrase. Like a child who suffers from genitusphoria may

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>receive like treatment, whether that's through like like speech therapy

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>like talking about it with with the therapist, or hormone blockers,

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and they may then choose to cease treatment and go

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 2>through their natural puberty. Right like that is, but yeah,

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that's not them like like qu one unquote like naturally

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 2>passing through puberty. Like no, that that also involves a

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>degree of treatment. Now, the reason why these numbers are

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 2>might be a little bit kind of odd and also

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 2>they're just false, like the way that they're like being

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>framed here. But in particular for kids, like the criteria

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>for children and having genitysphoria is different from the criteria

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 2>for teens and adults, right, those mean different things. They

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 2>also say as many as ninety eight percent as many

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>reason I'm saying because the DSM five actually says that

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 2>quote in natal males, persistence has ranged from two point

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 2>two percent to thirty percent. In natal females, persistence has

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 2>ranged from twelve percent to fifty percent. So they took

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the lowest possible number and switched the stat around by

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>saying that as many as ninety eight percent eventually accept

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>their quote unquote biological sex. So that's that's a cute

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>little little flip around. And then also, according to the DSM,

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>a majority of boys sixty three to one hundred percent

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 2>who quote unquote grow out of gend dysphoria just later

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>turn out to be gay. Right, there is a difference

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>between like gender dysphoria versus like gender deviance. That's why you, yeah,

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 2>you should like work with an actual medical team if

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you have like a kid who's like pre puberty, who

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>has a degree of gender variance, because yeah, that could

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>result in a whole bunch of a whole bunch of things,

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that some of them just grow up

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>to be like gay kids is like the result of

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like successful medical treatment, and like it's like like a

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 2>loving family, Like that is a good outcome. Similarly, the

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 2>DSM says that thirty two to fifty percent of girls

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 2>whose gender dysphoria does not persist later identify as gay.

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:30.760
<v Speaker 2>So there we go. That's pretty pretty pretty average stuff.

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 2>They then go onto list all of the quote unquote

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>side effects of gender affirming treatment, saying quote meanwhile, radical

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 2>gender affirming therapies post serious medical risks, including disfiguring acne,

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 2>high blood pressure, weight gain, abnormal glucose tolerance, breast cancer,

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>liver disease, thermioprosis, and cardiovascular disease. These are all the

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 2>consequences of just puberty. Yeah, like, depending on what puberty

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you go through, Yeah, it's gonna have different effects. That's

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 2>just how puberty worries. They also include uh, and of

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>course sterility, and this is this is still a hotly

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 2>debated topic. There are some recent studies that show that

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 2>there's actually a pretty good chance of people who go

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 2>on estrogen being able to like regain fertility after after

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 2>like a six months of ceasing treatment. It's not consistent, right,

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 2>everyone who everyone who goes on like HRT has an

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>understanding that it can affect how they reproduce in the future.

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>You're definitely encouraged to, like, if you want to have

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>kids or think you might want to have kids in

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>the future, Like you can save your sperms, you can

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>save your eggs, you can you can get that stuff

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>ahead of time. Yeah, but this is also something that

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 2>people are like working on of being able to like

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 2>maintain the ability to have kids even like during or

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>like after. Gender affirming health care treatment has like commenced.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:59.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's cool. Finally, quote puberty blocking therapies and cross

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>sex hormones non reversible, largely untested, and highly dangerous, especially

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 2>for children. We've already we've already talked about how all

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>of that is not true. We've already gone through all

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>of that. Sex assignment surgeries have not been shown to

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 2>reduce the extraordinarily high rate of suicide attempts among people

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 2>who identify as transgender forty one percent compared to the

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 2>general population's four point six percent. So this is also

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 2>just like not true, Like everything, it's just not true. Also,

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>there's no there's no citation here. A pear of you

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.280
<v Speaker 2>studying the Journal of adlast in Health found that hormone

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 2>therapy for trans youth reduced the rate of depression and

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>suicide by forty percent. It also found that having like

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 2>parental support during this process also like heavily impacts the

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 2>effectiveness of this treatment, specifically on depression and suicide. Like

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 2>if if you're going through this treatment and your parents

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 2>still hate you, yeah, that's going to actually, it's going

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>to hurt the ability of this healthcare to actually be

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>effective mentally. An investigation by doctors of the University of

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Washington found that trans youth who received gender if herming

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 2>healthcare reduced their risk of suicide by seventy three percent

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 2>compared to those who do not receive care, and a

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 2>policy brief in the VA wrote quote. Since in nineteen

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 2>seventy five, more than two thousand scientific studies have examined

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>gender affirming care, supported by over thirty leading medical associations,

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 2>including the World Health Organization and the American Medical Association,

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>gender affirming care is deemed evidence based and effective at

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>reducing suicide rates. This is all widely understood. This is

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>such like a non objectionable stance that even famous woke institution,

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the VA, is like, yeah, no, it's actually really effective. Okay,

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.479
<v Speaker 2>And now actually, finally, for this pamphlet quote, the most

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>helpful therapies for children experiencing gender dysphoria do not try

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to remake the body to conform with thoughts and feelings,

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>which is impossible, not impossible, but rather but rather to

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 2>help people find healthy ways to manage their tension and

0:41:55.840 --> 0:42:01.720
<v Speaker 2>move towards accepting the reality of their bodies. Unfortunately, fifteen

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>states have passed laws of banning talk therapy for miners

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>who struggle with gender dysphoria, and there's a bill in

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Congress which would do the same. There's no bill banning

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 2>talk therapy. This is a conversion therapy, bann This isn't

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 2>This isn't like actual talk therapy, which is a part

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of like actual healthcare treatment. This is against like conversion therapy.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>That is what they're actually talking about. So that is

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 2>the bulk of the pamphlet. I also got given this

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 2>this other kind of I think it's called a fact sheet,

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>which is ironic by the Heritage Action Group, which is

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>the kind of lobbying activist arm branch of Heritage. It

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>goes over a whole bunch of like the same stuff.

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 2>They particularly don't like that the Department of Education released

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a report banning the use of offensive and inappropriate terms

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 2>like mother and father in school. This isn't true. What

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about is that there's been a push to

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>include this more gender neutral language, like instead of saying

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 2>your mom and dad, just say parents. Like, yeah, that

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. That's specifically what they're complaining about. They complain

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>about like books and schools. They call The Gender Queer

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a graphic novel, a book riddled with pornographic and pedophilic content.

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Not true. It's just simply isn't true. All these kind

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 2>of old lies that we have talked about on the show,

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 2>like many times before. And then they also just rehash

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of the claims from the other pamphlet.

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 2>They talk about the claim that in Virginia a girl

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 2>was actually assaulted by a teen boy pretending to be

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>a girl, and this is not an isolated incident. We've

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 2>talked about that claim before. This was a fake story

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 2>invented by the Daily Wire. This person was not trans.

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>This was someone who was in a relationship with this

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 2>girl who's actually assaulted her in a bathroom. Not a

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 2>trans person, just a regular CIS gender male. And then

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 2>they talk about sports. They talk about how men have

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 2>more upper body mass and that puberty blockers do not

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 2>change height, organ sized, skeletal structure, muscle mass or any

0:43:56.360 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 2>of the biological characteristics that make men unequal. Opponents absolutely

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>do hormones. Literally, they just list all the things that

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 2>hormones actually change, like, they actually famously do change all

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>of those things, height, skeletal structure, organ size, and muscle mass.

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Those are the main things. Yeah.

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if that wasn't the case, you could just

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 4>take testosterone and it wouldn't affect you.

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Apparently, Yeah, famously testosterone never changes your muscle mass.

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just and sounds stronger man who never benefited.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>They also complained about how the biing administration is want

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 2>of people to use preferred pronouns if you work in government,

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>which again is just trying to stop people from like

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 2>harassing by using the wrong pronouns. It's it's all just

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 2>ways to prevent harassment. And they complain about all that

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff as well. So it's a lot a

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 2>lot of the same stuff from the pamphlets. A it's

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 2>a pretty fun little fact sheet. Those are the two

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>main pamphlets that were going around the R and C

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>about gender ideology. That was kind of the most in

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Speaker 2>depth it ever got. Most of the speeches did not

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 2>even get into any specifics. They just like threw out

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 2>keywords fractual like discussion, this is, this is this is

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the most in depth stuff they have, So this is

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 2>largely like the bulk of like the average RNC attendees knowledge.

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>This is actually probably more in depth than most average

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>RNC attendees, at least in terms of what Heritage is

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>putting out publicly, that is, their talking points, Any any

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of closing thoughts.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.879
<v Speaker 4>Here, just dog shit. I don't know what to say.

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really quite bad. It's not my favorite. But honestly,

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.919
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just so poorly written, and I don't

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 2>know how effective this is. It could be a lot

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 2>more transphobic. Oddly enough, they have a lot of like

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the same lies that the right has been like workshopping

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>around certain claims around like trans healthcare and specifically how

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>it relates to like kids. But I honestly don't see

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>this as a very effective messaging for Heritage. Yeah, I

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 2>think it is that like.

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 4>It's that pathway to hate thing, you know that, like

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 4>your grandchild has a nose pacing.

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>How do you deal with this? Yes, that like it.

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 4>It's it's not if you come at it too hard,

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 4>people are going to be like what the fuck, but

0:45:58.960 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 4>it gets people.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mosto want to go over this because like

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be entering the holiday season pretty soon, so

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 2>whatever whatever Thanksgiving or Christmas dinners you're forced to attend. Yeah,

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, if if people start talking with that kind

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of stuff, it's probably gonna be claims that are similar

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>to some of the stuff in here. And these things

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 2>are like very easy to like research, especially all of

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the like puberty blocking stuff like that. There's that's it's

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>so easy to be like this just isn't true. And

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 2>most of them just have no idea because if the

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>information they're getting is in line with this kind of thing,

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 2>it's it is just an alternate reality that that they

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.800
<v Speaker 2>are living in. Yeah, and some of them are fueled

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.839
<v Speaker 2>by like actual ideological hatred, and some of them are

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 2>just actually like legitimately just like misinformed. And that's something

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.439
<v Speaker 2>like I can't tell you how your family thinks because

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know your family, but it is it is

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 2>a good thing to to like keep in mind that

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 2>there is ways to talk about some of the sort

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 2>of things. There's also if you just want to avoid

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 2>avoid it all together and play Nintendo in the basement

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>during Thanksgiving dinner with your cousins. That's also yeah sometimes

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the move yep support that. Well, this has been exciting.

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