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The 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:51.080 global reach of I heart Podcasting available wherever you get 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.000 your podcast. You already found it, so you know that. 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.520 And we do this podcast now, back at it for 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.960 eight days a week, because four hours a night clear 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:06.399 really not enough in the overnight and back against his will. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.520 He did not want to do this. There was a 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.520 lot of pushback to do the podcast this week. David 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:18.039 Gascon is back West of the four oh five past. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.000 I had to twist your arm a little bit Gascon. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.760 You did not want to come in here and do this. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.080 You had other things you wanted to do, but that, 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.399 but not the podcast. I don't know if it's twisting 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.840 my arm as much as it's pouting. But when you 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.120 can call it twisting, you had a little Kyrie mallment, dude, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.760 I mean this podcast. Where's you out, Kyrie? Kyrie was 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.960 taking off work to do nothing. I I don't take 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.720 off work to do nothing. I take off work to 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.440 do other work. Well, Kyrie took off work to go 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.640 on a zoom call for a political candidate in New 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.600 York City angling parties. It's a little frazzled, but he's 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.520 he's doing. Okay. I did not see that photo until 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.560 you sent it to me. And then when you sent 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.560 it to me, I thought, okay, I need to slowly 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.840 go through this because there's something in here that he 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.440 wants me to see. And then one by one by one, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.520 I started It's like a bingo card, right, That's exactly 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.000 what it was when I started looking at everyone else. So, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.240 just to give the story, so a friend of mine 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.240 sends me this text, Hey, guess who's not at the 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.080 NETS game tonight? But and then it was obvious. And 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.640 then it was Kyrie on a zoom call with like 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.560 a bunch of other It looked like the Brady Bunch 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.960 open there's a outdated reference, but it had you know, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.080 like a zoom call, had all these boxes and there's 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.679 there's a Kyrie checking in full of vitality there and 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.760 certainly looked fine and not playing in the game that night. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.320 I love that it was just before the start of 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.120 the game. It was like a few minutes before the 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.680 Nets game. I want you to start, and there's there's 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.880 Kyrie doing his thing. But has anyone gone more full 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.519 Looney Tunes in sports over the last few years? And 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.480 then Kyrie I'm talking about recently? Oh no, But I mean, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.600 if you're gonna go full Looney Tunes, then you have 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.960 to be And it's Rodman right, like, don't you just 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.000 have to go a wall, go to Vegas, bang some strippers, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.160 do some coke, and then come back to work. Well, well, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.360 Rodman was able to play for the Chicago Bulls while 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.320 doing a lot of that. He had, you know, occasionally 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.440 needed a vacation, as we learned in that documentary in 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.200 twenty where he had to go to Vegas and just 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.120 for whatever. But but he was. And I remember when 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.080 the Bulls would come to La to play the Clippers 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:30.960 of Lakers. The stories of Rodman's activities were legendary and 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.240 he didn't slow down. And it's like when I was 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.000 around baseball players years ago and I traveled a little 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.000 bit with the Dodgers and the the guys in the bullpen. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.480 They dragged me along. I was a young guy. We 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.160 went out and had a wonderful time at the different 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.960 clubs and different cities. And then I could you know, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.320 I was young and I hadn't lived that life, and 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.000 I could get I was like, I couldn't even get 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.560 out of bed in the hotel room, and then these 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.400 guys are going out pitching. Remember what time it was 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.880 in New York and then the Mets were still playing 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.000 Chase Stadium back then. But we had a very interesting 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.839 night where I got back to the hotel room as 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.160 the sun was rising in Manhattan and they had a 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.760 day game against the Mets. It was a getaway game 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.800 against the Mets, and a couple of guys I was 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:19.240 out with frolicking around pitched and I was convinced they 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.400 were gonna be terrible. They were fine, it's like they 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.680 went it was their routine and they I couldn't believe. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.720 I was like, wow, isn't the old guys are like 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.040 a battery acid in there in their body. Isn't the 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.039 old story that David Wells through his perfect game with 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.560 a hangover? Well there's that, and then there's that picture 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.080 from the pirates who was on on What was he on? Um? 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.400 Some kind of drug? I forget what it was. But 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.600 back in the in the seventies, you know, if they 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.360 weren't playing well, I wanted to see someone come out 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.960 and throw some haymakers, you know, and get and get 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:56.440 them in line. But now because of the way this 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.440 is gone here instead of bare knuckle box in some 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.560 pugilism um, they don't want any of that. They want 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:09.760 they want It seems like the consumer only wants positivity 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.400 when it comes to this stuff. They don't want to 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.479 hear anything I And it's like they defend these people 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.200 like they're they're you know, they're sisters and their brothers. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.120 It's odd to me, but that's that's the way it goes. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.479 It's a tough line, though, because there's a lot of 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.839 negativity already in this world. Why have any more on 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.559 top of it. Well, yeah, I mean that's the the argument, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.920 but they treat it personal. I I've never been there 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.040 with us. I love the Clippers, and when the Clippers suck, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.039 I I point out that they suck. Same thing with 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.320 the Dodger in the ram. I'm not afraid to to 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:44.960 do that. I think you should do that. I think 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.160 that's a good fan. I think a bad fan is 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.280 to just be a blind sheep and be a lemming, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.480 and no matter what happens, you're like, oh, it's okay, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.200 don't worry to make drinks some more kool aid. I 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.520 mean you don't. You don't need the amen choir is 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.240 what you You don't need that. So at least that's 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.400 my opinions. I realized there's a lot of people in 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.480 radio that now that the younger guys in radio act 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.760 that way too. They don't do that that much of 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.719 the extreme criticism, but their jobs are safer when they don't. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.080 You would agree when you go when you go looking 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:18.840 over that edge a little bit like if you go 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:25.520 full blown Tony Bruno, unless you're Howard Stern, like you 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.400 can't look over the edge and have a security blanket. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.560 You go over, you could fall over, and just yeah, well, 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.680 it's always like it's a it's a risk assessment. Yeah right, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.839 it's risk assessment, and you have to do cost benefit 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:45.120 analysis like is it worth your time? Right, the old 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:50.520 risk reward situation. And that's always been true, and it 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.599 really depends. It used to be if you made enough 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.160 money for the show, if you were the number one 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.240 morning show or the number one afternoon drive show, you 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.440 had carte blanche, you could, you know, show me the 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:06.120 money and people would would just cow tounty. But then 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:07.839 you know, it's like I remember when I was doing 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.800 local stuff and the Clippers were terrible, and but they 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.120 were on the station, so they we were told it 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.080 was a partner, so we had to be careful because 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.800 and I was like what and uh, And then you know, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.000 it's just it's just the way the game. The game 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.120 has played there and all that stuff. But hey, it's 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.360 been interesting. It's good for talk radio. Though the James 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.040 Harden trade. It's not good for the NBA that the 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.000 employees are deciding where they're working and all that. That's 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.200 not particularly great, but it's good for sports radio. And 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.240 Kyrie is the gift that keeps giving. He is the 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.640 cash cow. He is wonderful, But do you feel more 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.040 inclined or less inclined to watch these games though with 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:50.080 these guys going in and out of the lineup. Yeah, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.240 I mean the whole thing. It's also without the fans too, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.320 you know, this a whole the whole deal. It's just 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.320 not I talked to Eddie about this this weekend. He's like, 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.480 he seems okay with it and cool with he doesn't 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.760 watch the NBA. That doesn't count, no, I know, but 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.720 he's like, you know, he just doesn't seem to mind 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.720 the lack of fans, Like I still still bothers me. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.360 I'm not not that I loved the cutaway shot to 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:18.320 Joe Blow getting all excited, but just the energy, just 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.160 the whole vibe and all that. I think it depends 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.760 on the sport like n b A. You know this, 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.239 if you're at a Lakers game or a Heat game, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.320 you get those courtside shots. They're usually nines and tens 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.760 that are getting looked at, but then double at Those 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.880 are lottery picks, right, But the n C Double A tournament, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.880 you want to get the kid crying his ass off 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.400 because the team just got beat in the sweet sixteen 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.120 and and he thought they were to make a run 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.760 at a twelve seed. I'm down. Aren't need these grown 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.840 adulters sobbing. I don't need to see the drum major 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:55.280 hears running down their eyes there because their team was eliminated. 0:08:55.880 --> 0:09:02.280 Eliminated as opposed to Mr un Limited, the quarterback of 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.680 the Seahawk. All right, so I did want to spend 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.520 a few minutes many people asked about. Well, first of all, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.600 my my dad, I want to thank many of you 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.520 that reached out to me. Thank you. I've not written 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:19.360 back to everybody, but very difficult times, you might imagine, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.040 So I'm gonna try to get back to everybody at 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.199 some point here. Um, there's still a lot of stuff 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.880 to do as far as that is concerned, and my 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.079 brother has been out from New York helping me with 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.440 some of that stuff, a lot of it, actually, so 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.600 I do appreciate that. And while I was away, Tommy 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.439 Losorda passed away, and at some people that were emailing 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.439 me asking me for some Tommy the sort of stories. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.000 And I'm just gonna spit ball this off the top 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.400 of my head here because I I didn't, you know, 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:51.640 prepare anything per se But my relationship with Disorta is 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.680 a pretty bizarre one, I would say, because I grew 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.080 up of watching the Dodgers and any Angels, not just 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.000 the Dodgers, any angel. I grew up in Orange County, 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.679 so I watched the Angels too. In the Dodgers, uh, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.280 And I watched the eighty eight World Series on TV 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.720 with my my parents, and I saw the Gibson home 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:14.480 run and all that. But in nine four, I got 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.080 I got a gig where I had access to cover 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.160 the Dodgers. That was the first year I had media 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.679 credentials to cover the Dodgers. Losorto was still managing. So 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.760 I'm mind you, I'm like a teenager or whatever, and um, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.600 you know, interviewing all these people that a few years 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.720 ago I was watching on TV, and you know, it's 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.160 a weird thing. So but Losorto was managing the team 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:41.080 in four and I covered the team the last the 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.160 last two and a half seasons that he managed. He 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.600 he left in the middle of the nineties six season. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.160 He had I think he had a heart attack. He 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.920 had a health problem, and he was replaced I believe 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.960 by Glenn Hoffman was the interim manager that Bill Russell 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.640 took over whatever doesn't matter, but anyway, so, uh, you know, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.320 I was in awe when I was first around the sword. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.400 I mean the sort was a bigger than life personality 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.920 and to see behind the scenes, behind the curtain, to 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.440 see how it all operates, you know, it was it 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.199 was ile and I was like whoa. You know. I 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.240 was in the same way and renovated the locker room 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.760 at Dodger Stadium in Forever. So it was a crap 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.720 locker room. But a couple of things I remember about 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.960 those years, the last couple of years Tommy was managing 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.760 the Dodgers is he always had the buffet, the post 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.160 game buffet in his office, so the players, if they 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.839 wanted to get food, had to walk past his desk 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:40.200 to get food. He had this big, long table. It 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.599 was like it had drawers underneath it, but it was 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.640 the buffet table. And so they'd bring in that night's meal, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.319 the postgame meal, and so you know that I remember 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.080 remember call that and also remember the two types of 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:58.559 the sword. And this was very intimidating for a young 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.760 radio stringer, okay, because I didn't really know the rules, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.200 and I kind of learned as I went along. You know, 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.880 most people do that, and nobody told me here's what 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.640 you do, here's what you don't do. But my first time, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.240 first two times around the Dodgers in in the ninety 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:20.520 four season, I recall very vividly when the Dodgers were winning, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.120 right when they were winning, and they were like a 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.720 pretty average team that year, right around five hundred. But 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.520 when they won, you got happy Tommy, and he wanted 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.120 to tell you couldn't wait for us media guys to 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.440 come in there, and when we got right next to him, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.360 put the mic right there and he had a beaming 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.120 smile talking about his team and whoever was pitching that 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.920 day and all that stuff. So that was one Tommy. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.080 And then I remember when the Dodges would lose, it 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.440 was a totally different Tommy. He would be sullen, he 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.360 would be down and uh and I recall going in 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.520 there and you know, you know, I stand right next 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.720 to and put a microphone down his throat, and he 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.400 would be eating. He never really I don't remember ember 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.360 eating after they won a game, but when they lost, 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.080 he would be eating in there, and they like spitting 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.720 food and all that stuff. I would call that very much. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.079 But but Tommy was very nice to me, and they 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.440 did make the playoffs, and then I think the ninety 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:22.640 five season they made the playoffs and got swept. It 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.600 was the I think that might have been the first 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.640 year of the expansion of the playoffs. They were in 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.120 the divisional series. They played and I think it was 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.280 Cincinnati that year. I think they played Cincinnati that year, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.760 but they did not play well. That was the I 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.679 remember correctly, Benito Santiago was playing for the Reds. He 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.400 had a big home run and I believe it was 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.760 Game one, if I remember correctly. But that's that's the 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.120 year that I stood next to march Shot behind the 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.040 batting cage and I was like three times the size 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.959 of March Shot and she had her dog with her. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.720 I don't remember the dog being there that day, but 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.160 I remember her wearing that red sweater, the bright red 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:06.079 Cincinnati Red sweater, and she wanted to get right behind 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.120 the batting cage there to watch the guys. And I 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.480 remember the players coming up to her on the Reds 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.040 and I guess you have to suck up the ownership 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.319 and uh and all that. But those were the days 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.920 of the Dodgers had Piazza and Carols and yeah, Jose 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.360 Offerman was hanging around there. Tim Wallack was on that team, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:27.440 Mandy Um Yeah, and they had Hdeo Nomo Nomo Mania 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.640 was going on. Tom Candiotti's knuckleball he was pitching then. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.000 And Ramon Martinez. Yeah, my, Ramon Martinez was good. Yeah, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.640 he was a good pitcher, unfortunately not as good as 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:42.920 his brother, but they had him too. He was. Yeah, 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.320 well for a few kind of got away from them. Yeah, 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.720 Ramon was more of like a twelve to fifteen game 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.720 winner as opposed to a twenty game winner at Hall 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:57.560 of Famer. Yeah, he's you know. You know, Ramon actually 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.880 pitched a few games for the eighty eight Dodgers, did 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:03.760 you did he really? Yeah? And I think not many, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.360 but he did did end up on that team. Uh. 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.200 And then some of the other memories about about Tommy 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:15.720 just kind of scatter shot here. I recall when when 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.000 Tommy couldn't manage anymore, and then eventually he became he 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.720 was like the liaison for the Dodgers. He was the ambassador. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.040 He's for the rest of his life. He was the 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.760 the goodwill ambassador for the Dodgers. But I remember when 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.920 they had him as the Interiom general manager. And it 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.720 was one of the funniest stories. I have, one of 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.640 the funniest Tommy stories. So Tommy gave this speech, this 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.960 address to the assembled media, and he was going on 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.360 and on about how you know, you guys can write 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.720 whatever you want, you can say whatever you want. I 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.440 don't care. You know, I'm the general manager. I'm gonna 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:49.880 do what I want to do. That kind of thing, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.040 you know, a lot him achievement. I loved it. So 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.000 I'm in the press dining room at at Chevez Ravine 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:03.320 and uh Ug Kricorian, the great Dougricorian, longtime l a 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.800 sports writer, retired for many years. So Doug Recorian was 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.080 riding for the Long Beach Press Telegram at the time, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:17.240 and apparently he had done something that annoyed the sort. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:21.240 And now the reason we know this is because Tommy 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.200 stormed into the press box. He's the general manager of 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.320 the time, goes into the press dining room and says, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.600 where's listen, where where's Krikorian? He wanted he wanted to 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.240 find Doug because Doug had written something ripping a move 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.560 Tommy had made. It was just hilarious because it's like 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.520 a couple of days earlier he had said, oh, no, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.400 you can say whatever you want. I don't care, you know, 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.360 and all that stuff. And then I remember another sort 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.360 of so I remember in Via Beach there is a 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.440 few years after he was managing, and it was St. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.120 Patrick's Day, St. Patty's Day in Vero Beach and it was, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.680 you know, a big deal in spring training. They had 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.040 they brought out the green beer and green hats and 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.160 they had a big Saint uh St Patrick's party. This 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.480 was actually the time that the O'Malley family was transitioning 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.760 to Fox, to the Fox ownership for the Dodgers, but 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:11.880 there was a big party. We were doing the show 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:13.760 back to l A. So it was on very late. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.920 And Tommy, who I had a you know, a pretty 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.159 good relationship with as a media guy. You know, I 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.520 didn't know, wasn't close personal friends, but I thought, you know, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:24.880 he knew who I was, which was you know, it's 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.840 a big accomplish when you're on the Dodgers of Tommy 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.000 Losorda and Vince Scully knew who you were. That was 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.359 a big deal. And I got I was lucky because 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.520 both of them, you know, I I relationally knew my 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.280 name and thing. So that was pretty cool. I was 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.960 very proud of that. But Losorda was the general manager, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.320 you know. Later on. This is before that. So we 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.960 were in Vero Beach at this this this gallows St. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.480 Patrick's Day event. We're doing the show back to l A. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.640 So it's late, you know, it's like, you know, midnight, 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.080 one in the morning, whatever we do on a night 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.320 show in l A Bet and Dave show. And it's 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.560 very rainy night in Virio Beach, like a huge monsoon 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.600 is coming down, and nobody wanted to leave because it 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:00.159 was really nasty weather and they just want to day 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.520 in party. And when you run the Dodger Town, which 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.200 is I guess something else now but obviously not there. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.399 I think it's a baseball facility, training facility anyway, So 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.240 the sort of comes down. He is, uh, he's wearing 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.120 a he's got a big green St. Patty's Day had on, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.880 and he's enjoyed himself. Tommy, he's you know, he's at 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.840 a good time at the party. And he's in that 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:30.119 room and we were getting vintage Lotsorta in this little 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.040 small radio booth, which was the Dodger Talk booth that 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.280 they did in Vero Beach that they did the shows 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.680 for the postgame show, and uh, it was awesome. I mean, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.320 Tommy was just he didn't want to leave. It was 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.679 like it was it was really really a lot of 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.600 fun there. And I remember that. And also remember, you know, 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.879 the last few years I would run into Tommy and 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.439 I I think there was something. And as he got older, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.480 I think he, um, you know, his memories started to 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.760 go a little bit. But I recall like this weird 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.840 connection because I had started as like the teenage guy 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.720 and he was near the end. You know, it was 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.359 like so he kind of remembered that I was one 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.440 of the reporters that cover the team because there weren't 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.720 a lot of guys left and that that were around 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:14.919 in in the days that he was. Man, he's been 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.640 a long time, and people lose jobs and do other 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:22.080 things and things like that. So I love being around Losorda. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:23.600 It was a lot of fun. And and I and 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.920 also the other stories about Tommy the Great rants and 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.320 and people think the Kingman rants the greatest rand. I 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.760 think the one with Kurt Bovakua is even better than 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.760 the Kingman ran. And and I know you've heard that 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.960 over the years, like the remember the Bovacua rant from Losorda. Yeah, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.919 I'm trying to look for right now. Well it was. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.080 It was in the nineteen eighty two. The Dodgers are 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.640 playing the Padres, and I guess the Dodger pitchers kept 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:56.360 hitting Padre batters and Kurt Bovacua of the San Diego Padres, 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.960 I guess he came out and they got into a 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.240 dust up, and then after the game he called Tommy 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:09.840 the sort of that fat little Italian and uh, uh, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.480 my man, Tommy back. Imagine if you did that now. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.680 Could you imagine if Bavakua came out and said you 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.240 fat little attack and today, oh my god, he'd be canceled. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.840 He'd be canceled. It could be nothing that but in 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.000 those days like okay, we'll settle our you know, this 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:24.600 is how we do it. Men would be men, and 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.280 do you say that, I'll get back at you. So 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.399 the next day, let's sort of, when they was asked 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:33.399 about it, he went on this awesome rant and uh 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.920 it was. It's true. I recommends on the internet. You 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.639 can find it on the YouTube. I'm sure it's on 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.400 there somewhere. But Jim Healy, one of my favorite radio 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:41.840 shows when I was growing up. Used to play it 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:48.360 every once in a while. But his rant was essentially uh. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.800 He said, I'm trying to get the funny like, oh, 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.240 but Bavakua couldn't hit water if he fell out of 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.760 an f and boat. That was one and then he 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.440 said I got in the other line that was used 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.800 as a dry was I garan ffort you when I pitched? 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.560 This is a little sort of when I pitched and 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.480