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Speaker 1: eight days a week, because four hours a night clear
Speaker 1: really not enough in the overnight and back against his will.
Speaker 1: He did not want to do this. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of pushback to do the podcast this week. David
Speaker 1: Gascon is back West of the four oh five past.
Speaker 1: I had to twist your arm a little bit Gascon.
Speaker 1: You did not want to come in here and do this.
Speaker 1: You had other things you wanted to do, but that,
Speaker 1: but not the podcast. I don't know if it's twisting
Speaker 1: my arm as much as it's pouting. But when you
Speaker 1: can call it twisting, you had a little Kyrie mallment, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean this podcast. Where's you out, Kyrie? Kyrie was
Speaker 1: taking off work to do nothing. I I don't take
Speaker 1: off work to do nothing. I take off work to
Speaker 1: do other work. Well, Kyrie took off work to go
Speaker 1: on a zoom call for a political candidate in New
Speaker 1: York City angling parties. It's a little frazzled, but he's
Speaker 1: he's doing. Okay. I did not see that photo until
Speaker 1: you sent it to me. And then when you sent
Speaker 1: it to me, I thought, okay, I need to slowly
Speaker 1: go through this because there's something in here that he
Speaker 1: wants me to see. And then one by one by one,
Speaker 1: I started It's like a bingo card, right, That's exactly
Speaker 1: what it was when I started looking at everyone else. So,
Speaker 1: just to give the story, so a friend of mine
Speaker 1: sends me this text, Hey, guess who's not at the
Speaker 1: NETS game tonight? But and then it was obvious. And
Speaker 1: then it was Kyrie on a zoom call with like
Speaker 1: a bunch of other It looked like the Brady Bunch
Speaker 1: open there's a outdated reference, but it had you know,
Speaker 1: like a zoom call, had all these boxes and there's
Speaker 1: there's a Kyrie checking in full of vitality there and
Speaker 1: certainly looked fine and not playing in the game that night.
Speaker 1: I love that it was just before the start of
Speaker 1: the game. It was like a few minutes before the
Speaker 1: Nets game. I want you to start, and there's there's
Speaker 1: Kyrie doing his thing. But has anyone gone more full
Speaker 1: Looney Tunes in sports over the last few years? And
Speaker 1: then Kyrie I'm talking about recently? Oh no, But I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go full Looney Tunes, then you have
Speaker 1: to be And it's Rodman right, like, don't you just
Speaker 1: have to go a wall, go to Vegas, bang some strippers,
Speaker 1: do some coke, and then come back to work. Well, well,
Speaker 1: Rodman was able to play for the Chicago Bulls while
Speaker 1: doing a lot of that. He had, you know, occasionally
Speaker 1: needed a vacation, as we learned in that documentary in
Speaker 1: twenty where he had to go to Vegas and just
Speaker 1: for whatever. But but he was. And I remember when
Speaker 1: the Bulls would come to La to play the Clippers
Speaker 1: of Lakers. The stories of Rodman's activities were legendary and
Speaker 1: he didn't slow down. And it's like when I was
Speaker 1: around baseball players years ago and I traveled a little
Speaker 1: bit with the Dodgers and the the guys in the bullpen.
Speaker 1: They dragged me along. I was a young guy. We
Speaker 1: went out and had a wonderful time at the different
Speaker 1: clubs and different cities. And then I could you know,
Speaker 1: I was young and I hadn't lived that life, and
Speaker 1: I could get I was like, I couldn't even get
Speaker 1: out of bed in the hotel room, and then these
Speaker 1: guys are going out pitching. Remember what time it was
Speaker 1: in New York and then the Mets were still playing
Speaker 1: Chase Stadium back then. But we had a very interesting
Speaker 1: night where I got back to the hotel room as
Speaker 1: the sun was rising in Manhattan and they had a
Speaker 1: day game against the Mets. It was a getaway game
Speaker 1: against the Mets, and a couple of guys I was
Speaker 1: out with frolicking around pitched and I was convinced they
Speaker 1: were gonna be terrible. They were fine, it's like they
Speaker 1: went it was their routine and they I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, isn't the old guys are like
Speaker 1: a battery acid in there in their body. Isn't the
Speaker 1: old story that David Wells through his perfect game with
Speaker 1: a hangover? Well there's that, and then there's that picture
Speaker 1: from the pirates who was on on What was he on? Um?
Speaker 1: Some kind of drug? I forget what it was. But
Speaker 1: back in the in the seventies, you know, if they
Speaker 1: weren't playing well, I wanted to see someone come out
Speaker 1: and throw some haymakers, you know, and get and get
Speaker 1: them in line. But now because of the way this
Speaker 1: is gone here instead of bare knuckle box in some
Speaker 1: pugilism um, they don't want any of that. They want
Speaker 1: they want It seems like the consumer only wants positivity
Speaker 1: when it comes to this stuff. They don't want to
Speaker 1: hear anything I And it's like they defend these people
Speaker 1: like they're they're you know, they're sisters and their brothers.
Speaker 1: It's odd to me, but that's that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1: It's a tough line, though, because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: negativity already in this world. Why have any more on
Speaker 1: top of it. Well, yeah, I mean that's the the argument,
Speaker 1: but they treat it personal. I I've never been there
Speaker 1: with us. I love the Clippers, and when the Clippers suck,
Speaker 1: I I point out that they suck. Same thing with
Speaker 1: the Dodger in the ram. I'm not afraid to to
Speaker 1: do that. I think you should do that. I think
Speaker 1: that's a good fan. I think a bad fan is
Speaker 1: to just be a blind sheep and be a lemming,
Speaker 1: and no matter what happens, you're like, oh, it's okay,
Speaker 1: don't worry to make drinks some more kool aid. I
Speaker 1: mean you don't. You don't need the amen choir is
Speaker 1: what you You don't need that. So at least that's
Speaker 1: my opinions. I realized there's a lot of people in
Speaker 1: radio that now that the younger guys in radio act
Speaker 1: that way too. They don't do that that much of
Speaker 1: the extreme criticism, but their jobs are safer when they don't.
Speaker 1: You would agree when you go when you go looking
Speaker 1: over that edge a little bit like if you go
Speaker 1: full blown Tony Bruno, unless you're Howard Stern, like you
Speaker 1: can't look over the edge and have a security blanket.
Speaker 1: You go over, you could fall over, and just yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it's always like it's a it's a risk assessment. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: it's risk assessment, and you have to do cost benefit
Speaker 1: analysis like is it worth your time? Right, the old
Speaker 1: risk reward situation. And that's always been true, and it
Speaker 1: really depends. It used to be if you made enough
Speaker 1: money for the show, if you were the number one
Speaker 1: morning show or the number one afternoon drive show, you
Speaker 1: had carte blanche, you could, you know, show me the
Speaker 1: money and people would would just cow tounty. But then
Speaker 1: you know, it's like I remember when I was doing
Speaker 1: local stuff and the Clippers were terrible, and but they
Speaker 1: were on the station, so they we were told it
Speaker 1: was a partner, so we had to be careful because
Speaker 1: and I was like what and uh, And then you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just the way the game. The game
Speaker 1: has played there and all that stuff. But hey, it's
Speaker 1: been interesting. It's good for talk radio. Though the James
Speaker 1: Harden trade. It's not good for the NBA that the
Speaker 1: employees are deciding where they're working and all that. That's
Speaker 1: not particularly great, but it's good for sports radio. And
Speaker 1: Kyrie is the gift that keeps giving. He is the
Speaker 1: cash cow. He is wonderful, But do you feel more
Speaker 1: inclined or less inclined to watch these games though with
Speaker 1: these guys going in and out of the lineup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing. It's also without the fans too,
Speaker 1: you know, this a whole the whole deal. It's just
Speaker 1: not I talked to Eddie about this this weekend. He's like,
Speaker 1: he seems okay with it and cool with he doesn't
Speaker 1: watch the NBA. That doesn't count, no, I know, but
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, he just doesn't seem to mind
Speaker 1: the lack of fans, Like I still still bothers me.
Speaker 1: I'm not not that I loved the cutaway shot to
Speaker 1: Joe Blow getting all excited, but just the energy, just
Speaker 1: the whole vibe and all that. I think it depends
Speaker 1: on the sport like n b A. You know this,
Speaker 1: if you're at a Lakers game or a Heat game,
Speaker 1: you get those courtside shots. They're usually nines and tens
Speaker 1: that are getting looked at, but then double at Those
Speaker 1: are lottery picks, right, But the n C Double A tournament,
Speaker 1: you want to get the kid crying his ass off
Speaker 1: because the team just got beat in the sweet sixteen
Speaker 1: and and he thought they were to make a run
Speaker 1: at a twelve seed. I'm down. Aren't need these grown
Speaker 1: adulters sobbing. I don't need to see the drum major
Speaker 1: hears running down their eyes there because their team was eliminated.
Speaker 1: Eliminated as opposed to Mr un Limited, the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the Seahawk. All right, so I did want to spend
Speaker 1: a few minutes many people asked about. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: my my dad, I want to thank many of you
Speaker 1: that reached out to me. Thank you. I've not written
Speaker 1: back to everybody, but very difficult times, you might imagine,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to get back to everybody at
Speaker 1: some point here. Um, there's still a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: to do as far as that is concerned, and my
Speaker 1: brother has been out from New York helping me with
Speaker 1: some of that stuff, a lot of it, actually, so
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. And while I was away, Tommy
Speaker 1: Losorda passed away, and at some people that were emailing
Speaker 1: me asking me for some Tommy the sort of stories.
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna spit ball this off the top
Speaker 1: of my head here because I I didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: prepare anything per se But my relationship with Disorta is
Speaker 1: a pretty bizarre one, I would say, because I grew
Speaker 1: up of watching the Dodgers and any Angels, not just
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, any angel. I grew up in Orange County,
Speaker 1: so I watched the Angels too. In the Dodgers, uh,
Speaker 1: And I watched the eighty eight World Series on TV
Speaker 1: with my my parents, and I saw the Gibson home
Speaker 1: run and all that. But in nine four, I got
Speaker 1: I got a gig where I had access to cover
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. That was the first year I had media
Speaker 1: credentials to cover the Dodgers. Losorto was still managing. So
Speaker 1: I'm mind you, I'm like a teenager or whatever, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, interviewing all these people that a few years
Speaker 1: ago I was watching on TV, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: a weird thing. So but Losorto was managing the team
Speaker 1: in four and I covered the team the last the
Speaker 1: last two and a half seasons that he managed. He
Speaker 1: he left in the middle of the nineties six season.
Speaker 1: He had I think he had a heart attack. He
Speaker 1: had a health problem, and he was replaced I believe
Speaker 1: by Glenn Hoffman was the interim manager that Bill Russell
Speaker 1: took over whatever doesn't matter, but anyway, so, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I was in awe when I was first around the sword.
Speaker 1: I mean the sort was a bigger than life personality
Speaker 1: and to see behind the scenes, behind the curtain, to
Speaker 1: see how it all operates, you know, it was it
Speaker 1: was ile and I was like whoa. You know. I
Speaker 1: was in the same way and renovated the locker room
Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium in Forever. So it was a crap
Speaker 1: locker room. But a couple of things I remember about
Speaker 1: those years, the last couple of years Tommy was managing
Speaker 1: the Dodgers is he always had the buffet, the post
Speaker 1: game buffet in his office, so the players, if they
Speaker 1: wanted to get food, had to walk past his desk
Speaker 1: to get food. He had this big, long table. It
Speaker 1: was like it had drawers underneath it, but it was
Speaker 1: the buffet table. And so they'd bring in that night's meal,
Speaker 1: the postgame meal, and so you know that I remember
Speaker 1: remember call that and also remember the two types of
Speaker 1: the sword. And this was very intimidating for a young
Speaker 1: radio stringer, okay, because I didn't really know the rules,
Speaker 1: and I kind of learned as I went along. You know,
Speaker 1: most people do that, and nobody told me here's what
Speaker 1: you do, here's what you don't do. But my first time,
Speaker 1: first two times around the Dodgers in in the ninety
Speaker 1: four season, I recall very vividly when the Dodgers were winning,
Speaker 1: right when they were winning, and they were like a
Speaker 1: pretty average team that year, right around five hundred. But
Speaker 1: when they won, you got happy Tommy, and he wanted
Speaker 1: to tell you couldn't wait for us media guys to
Speaker 1: come in there, and when we got right next to him,
Speaker 1: put the mic right there and he had a beaming
Speaker 1: smile talking about his team and whoever was pitching that
Speaker 1: day and all that stuff. So that was one Tommy.
Speaker 1: And then I remember when the Dodges would lose, it
Speaker 1: was a totally different Tommy. He would be sullen, he
Speaker 1: would be down and uh and I recall going in
Speaker 1: there and you know, you know, I stand right next
Speaker 1: to and put a microphone down his throat, and he
Speaker 1: would be eating. He never really I don't remember ember
Speaker 1: eating after they won a game, but when they lost,
Speaker 1: he would be eating in there, and they like spitting
Speaker 1: food and all that stuff. I would call that very much.
Speaker 1: But but Tommy was very nice to me, and they
Speaker 1: did make the playoffs, and then I think the ninety
Speaker 1: five season they made the playoffs and got swept. It
Speaker 1: was the I think that might have been the first
Speaker 1: year of the expansion of the playoffs. They were in
Speaker 1: the divisional series. They played and I think it was
Speaker 1: Cincinnati that year. I think they played Cincinnati that year,
Speaker 1: but they did not play well. That was the I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, Benito Santiago was playing for the Reds. He
Speaker 1: had a big home run and I believe it was
Speaker 1: Game one, if I remember correctly. But that's that's the
Speaker 1: year that I stood next to march Shot behind the
Speaker 1: batting cage and I was like three times the size
Speaker 1: of March Shot and she had her dog with her.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the dog being there that day, but
Speaker 1: I remember her wearing that red sweater, the bright red
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Red sweater, and she wanted to get right behind
Speaker 1: the batting cage there to watch the guys. And I
Speaker 1: remember the players coming up to her on the Reds
Speaker 1: and I guess you have to suck up the ownership
Speaker 1: and uh and all that. But those were the days
Speaker 1: of the Dodgers had Piazza and Carols and yeah, Jose
Speaker 1: Offerman was hanging around there. Tim Wallack was on that team,
Speaker 1: Mandy Um Yeah, and they had Hdeo Nomo Nomo Mania
Speaker 1: was going on. Tom Candiotti's knuckleball he was pitching then.
Speaker 1: And Ramon Martinez. Yeah, my, Ramon Martinez was good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a good pitcher, unfortunately not as good as
Speaker 1: his brother, but they had him too. He was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well for a few kind of got away from them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ramon was more of like a twelve to fifteen game
Speaker 1: winner as opposed to a twenty game winner at Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah, he's you know. You know, Ramon actually
Speaker 1: pitched a few games for the eighty eight Dodgers, did
Speaker 1: you did he really? Yeah? And I think not many,
Speaker 1: but he did did end up on that team. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then some of the other memories about about Tommy
Speaker 1: just kind of scatter shot here. I recall when when
Speaker 1: Tommy couldn't manage anymore, and then eventually he became he
Speaker 1: was like the liaison for the Dodgers. He was the ambassador.
Speaker 1: He's for the rest of his life. He was the
Speaker 1: the goodwill ambassador for the Dodgers. But I remember when
Speaker 1: they had him as the Interiom general manager. And it
Speaker 1: was one of the funniest stories. I have, one of
Speaker 1: the funniest Tommy stories. So Tommy gave this speech, this
Speaker 1: address to the assembled media, and he was going on
Speaker 1: and on about how you know, you guys can write
Speaker 1: whatever you want, you can say whatever you want. I
Speaker 1: don't care. You know, I'm the general manager. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do what I want to do. That kind of thing,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot him achievement. I loved it. So
Speaker 1: I'm in the press dining room at at Chevez Ravine
Speaker 1: and uh Ug Kricorian, the great Dougricorian, longtime l a
Speaker 1: sports writer, retired for many years. So Doug Recorian was
Speaker 1: riding for the Long Beach Press Telegram at the time,
Speaker 1: and apparently he had done something that annoyed the sort.
Speaker 1: And now the reason we know this is because Tommy
Speaker 1: stormed into the press box. He's the general manager of
Speaker 1: the time, goes into the press dining room and says,
Speaker 1: where's listen, where where's Krikorian? He wanted he wanted to
Speaker 1: find Doug because Doug had written something ripping a move
Speaker 1: Tommy had made. It was just hilarious because it's like
Speaker 1: a couple of days earlier he had said, oh, no,
Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want. I don't care, you know,
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And then I remember another sort
Speaker 1: of so I remember in Via Beach there is a
Speaker 1: few years after he was managing, and it was St.
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, St. Patty's Day in Vero Beach and it was,
Speaker 1: you know, a big deal in spring training. They had
Speaker 1: they brought out the green beer and green hats and
Speaker 1: they had a big Saint uh St Patrick's party. This
Speaker 1: was actually the time that the O'Malley family was transitioning
Speaker 1: to Fox, to the Fox ownership for the Dodgers, but
Speaker 1: there was a big party. We were doing the show
Speaker 1: back to l A. So it was on very late.
Speaker 1: And Tommy, who I had a you know, a pretty
Speaker 1: good relationship with as a media guy. You know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know, wasn't close personal friends, but I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: he knew who I was, which was you know, it's
Speaker 1: a big accomplish when you're on the Dodgers of Tommy
Speaker 1: Losorda and Vince Scully knew who you were. That was
Speaker 1: a big deal. And I got I was lucky because
Speaker 1: both of them, you know, I I relationally knew my
Speaker 1: name and thing. So that was pretty cool. I was
Speaker 1: very proud of that. But Losorda was the general manager,
Speaker 1: you know. Later on. This is before that. So we
Speaker 1: were in Vero Beach at this this this gallows St.
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day event. We're doing the show back to l A.
Speaker 1: So it's late, you know, it's like, you know, midnight,
Speaker 1: one in the morning, whatever we do on a night
Speaker 1: show in l A Bet and Dave show. And it's
Speaker 1: very rainy night in Virio Beach, like a huge monsoon
Speaker 1: is coming down, and nobody wanted to leave because it
Speaker 1: was really nasty weather and they just want to day
Speaker 1: in party. And when you run the Dodger Town, which
Speaker 1: is I guess something else now but obviously not there.
Speaker 1: I think it's a baseball facility, training facility anyway, So
Speaker 1: the sort of comes down. He is, uh, he's wearing
Speaker 1: a he's got a big green St. Patty's Day had on,
Speaker 1: and he's enjoyed himself. Tommy, he's you know, he's at
Speaker 1: a good time at the party. And he's in that
Speaker 1: room and we were getting vintage Lotsorta in this little
Speaker 1: small radio booth, which was the Dodger Talk booth that
Speaker 1: they did in Vero Beach that they did the shows
Speaker 1: for the postgame show, and uh, it was awesome. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tommy was just he didn't want to leave. It was
Speaker 1: like it was it was really really a lot of
Speaker 1: fun there. And I remember that. And also remember, you know,
Speaker 1: the last few years I would run into Tommy and
Speaker 1: I I think there was something. And as he got older,
Speaker 1: I think he, um, you know, his memories started to
Speaker 1: go a little bit. But I recall like this weird
Speaker 1: connection because I had started as like the teenage guy
Speaker 1: and he was near the end. You know, it was
Speaker 1: like so he kind of remembered that I was one
Speaker 1: of the reporters that cover the team because there weren't
Speaker 1: a lot of guys left and that that were around
Speaker 1: in in the days that he was. Man, he's been
Speaker 1: a long time, and people lose jobs and do other
Speaker 1: things and things like that. So I love being around Losorda.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. And and I and
Speaker 1: also the other stories about Tommy the Great rants and
Speaker 1: and people think the Kingman rants the greatest rand. I
Speaker 1: think the one with Kurt Bovakua is even better than
Speaker 1: the Kingman ran. And and I know you've heard that
Speaker 1: over the years, like the remember the Bovacua rant from Losorda. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look for right now. Well it was.
Speaker 1: It was in the nineteen eighty two. The Dodgers are
Speaker 1: playing the Padres, and I guess the Dodger pitchers kept
Speaker 1: hitting Padre batters and Kurt Bovacua of the San Diego Padres,
Speaker 1: I guess he came out and they got into a
Speaker 1: dust up, and then after the game he called Tommy
Speaker 1: the sort of that fat little Italian and uh, uh,
Speaker 1: my man, Tommy back. Imagine if you did that now.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if Bavakua came out and said you
Speaker 1: fat little attack and today, oh my god, he'd be canceled.
Speaker 1: He'd be canceled. It could be nothing that but in
Speaker 1: those days like okay, we'll settle our you know, this
Speaker 1: is how we do it. Men would be men, and
Speaker 1: do you say that, I'll get back at you. So
Speaker 1: the next day, let's sort of, when they was asked
Speaker 1: about it, he went on this awesome rant and uh
Speaker 1: it was. It's true. I recommends on the internet. You
Speaker 1: can find it on the YouTube. I'm sure it's on
Speaker 1: there somewhere. But Jim Healy, one of my favorite radio
Speaker 1: shows when I was growing up. Used to play it
Speaker 1: every once in a while. But his rant was essentially uh.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm trying to get the funny like, oh,
Speaker 1: but Bavakua couldn't hit water if he fell out of
Speaker 1: an f and boat. That was one and then he
Speaker 1: said I got in the other line that was used
Speaker 1: as a dry was I garan ffort you when I pitched?
Speaker 1: This is a little sort of when I pitched and
Speaker 1: I was going to pitch against the team that had
Speaker 1: guys like on it, like Bavakua, I sent an e
Speaker 1: and limousine to get that CSR to make sure he
Speaker 1: was in the mother fin lineup. It was awesome. It was.
Speaker 1: And the late great Joe McDonald, the big Nasty l
Speaker 1: A radio legend, the francessa of l A Sports radio,
Speaker 1: Joe McDonald, he told me he was out there all
Speaker 1: the time and he was friends with But he told
Speaker 1: me and some of the other guys that cover the team,
Speaker 1: but way before I was around, in the heyday of Tommy,
Speaker 1: that those rants, the rants about Kingman and the rant
Speaker 1: about Bavakua, there were others that were not recorded with
Speaker 1: audio that were even better that that were lost for
Speaker 1: time because it was just newspaper people and they were
Speaker 1: writing notes trying to repeat what he said. Um so
Speaker 1: I he had so many of those moms were the
Speaker 1: Philly fanatic got into with the Philly fanatie ache and
Speaker 1: and also Losorda is responsible for the first mascot ever
Speaker 1: being ejected from a baseball game. You know which mascot
Speaker 1: is it? Mr Matt No, you Pi the Montreal Expo's
Speaker 1: mascot and the Expo's mascot. Who's I think that Montreal
Speaker 1: Canadians mascot now? But you p was on the dugout
Speaker 1: and would bang on the visiting dugout in Montreal, and
Speaker 1: the Expos had good teams and the Dodgers and remember
Speaker 1: they played the Rick Monday home run was in Montreal.
Speaker 1: Um anyway, sort of was so upset with his mascot
Speaker 1: distracting his team by banging on the dugout that he
Speaker 1: went out and started screaming, and anyway, the mascot ended
Speaker 1: up getting ejected first time in baseball history. Tommy the
Speaker 1: sorta responsible for the first mascot ejection. That's pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So anyway, rest in peace, Tommy Losorda and he he
Speaker 1: will will be was I don't know. Some people think
Speaker 1: he was phony. I don't I never got that that sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, I also remember one of the other things
Speaker 1: that popped in my head when you talk about the
Speaker 1: sorta is I recall the Hollywood crowd and they had
Speaker 1: this little area outside the Dodger Clubhouse, this little cubbyhole
Speaker 1: thing outside the Dodger Clubhouse, and I remember the big
Speaker 1: stars of the day would be waiting outside. Because the
Speaker 1: way it worked is the media they had a ten
Speaker 1: minute cooling off period. Media would come in, you had
Speaker 1: interview the sort of first, then you interview the players,
Speaker 1: then you left, and then once everyone in the media left,
Speaker 1: the sort of would welcome in, you know, some of
Speaker 1: the celebrities. And I remember the day that it was
Speaker 1: a big deal. Frank Sinatra came to a Dodger game,
Speaker 1: old blue Eyes music allegend, Frank Sinatra and friends with
Speaker 1: with the Sorda and he came in this big limo
Speaker 1: caravanan and all that, and it was a big, big
Speaker 1: to do big to do. So again, Rest in peace, Tommy.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm forgetting some stories that will pop up
Speaker 1: somewhere down the line here somewhere down the line. Now
Speaker 1: I have if we have time for we can do
Speaker 1: a few I have a few bizarre, odd, crazy things
Speaker 1: I've found on the internet. Stories. Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1: Did you see the story of the racing pigeon, that
Speaker 1: is the racing pigeon that could be killed? Now, no,
Speaker 1: what country was this then? All right, so this is
Speaker 1: a great story. I don't know how anyone really knows
Speaker 1: these type of things, but it's uh, it's there. So
Speaker 1: the this is from Australia. A racing pigeon traveled from
Speaker 1: Oregon to Australia eight thousand miles eight thousand miles, all right,
Speaker 1: surviving imagine. I don't know that I could survive a
Speaker 1: trip on a boat across the Pacific, so across from
Speaker 1: the United States to all the way to Australia. And
Speaker 1: now the people in Australia so paranoid about the Boogeyman
Speaker 1: that they consider the burg a quarantine risk for the
Speaker 1: Corona and they are they're planning to kill it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The bird arrived in Melbourne in the December. It had
Speaker 1: been in a race October twenty nine, so from in Oregon,
Speaker 1: so from October twenty nine to December. It crossed the Pacific.
Speaker 1: They think the working hypothesis is the pigeon, which is
Speaker 1: named Joe by the way, Joe the pigeon. They think
Speaker 1: that Joe the pigeon hitched a ride on a cargo
Speaker 1: ship across the Pacific. See, that's a smart move by
Speaker 1: the bird, because you might say, maybe in the middle.
Speaker 1: Imagine if you're a bird in the middle of the Pacific,
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, I'm gonna take off now, well you
Speaker 1: would die right there's nowhere to you know, you couldn't
Speaker 1: make it back and all that, And so I stayed
Speaker 1: on the boat. Cargo ship gets to Australia and now
Speaker 1: the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service are freaking out and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, this is unsafe. Sounds like the the
Speaker 1: Great movie Outbreak. I don't know if you were watched
Speaker 1: that movie back in the day. Dustin Hoffman, Renee Russo.
Speaker 1: I feel like I did, but I don't remember. So
Speaker 1: you can repeat Kevin Space he was in it too.
Speaker 1: Um let's see, because Dustin Hoffman was in the military,
Speaker 1: but he was a it was a medical doctor and
Speaker 1: him and Renee Russo had a splitting up. Anyways, what
Speaker 1: happened was is that this monkey had a virus. It
Speaker 1: was called like the Mutabi virus. Yeah, and it hit
Speaker 1: on this cargoes ship and it scratched one guy who
Speaker 1: had it as a pet, and he died on the boat.
Speaker 1: But the monkey was still in the in the cage,
Speaker 1: and so it went to a pet shop but I
Speaker 1: think in San Francisco or like in the middle of California,
Speaker 1: and then it was sold. It was sold after the
Speaker 1: owner of the store got bit by the monkey. And
Speaker 1: so you have this virus that was now being pushed
Speaker 1: around this area, this town in California, and Dustin Hoffman
Speaker 1: was trying to fight off this virus. At the same time,
Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman and I want to say it was Donald
Speaker 1: Sutherland were colonels in the military and they wanted to
Speaker 1: basically napalm the entire town. So they were talking about
Speaker 1: like just blowing up this entire town because they had
Speaker 1: a Mutabi virus. So Dustin Hoppman and Kuba Gooding Jr.
Speaker 1: Were able to get the host, the host monkey, extract
Speaker 1: the the the antibodies from it, and then injected into
Speaker 1: people to make them a hole again. So that's that's
Speaker 1: tremendous movie knowledge, guest. And I'm I'm shocked that you
Speaker 1: remember all those details. They're just reading on the internet. No, no,
Speaker 1: it was the nineties. We got no internet right now.
Speaker 1: It is that right. The internet is not working? Is
Speaker 1: what happened to the internet. Man, I'm happy the door
Speaker 1: is open, right. This thing is being held together by
Speaker 1: a tin can and some tape and mcgiver's pocket knife
Speaker 1: is keeping this thing going. When you go back to
Speaker 1: the studio, what's it gonna be like? Because before you laugh,
Speaker 1: you were you were high hurtling over trash. Um. You know.
Speaker 1: The wall was was taped up with with sponsor logos
Speaker 1: and those aren't there anymore. Um. I wonder if you
Speaker 1: know how to get back into the building. It's been
Speaker 1: so long. Wow. Uh, well I was supposed to go
Speaker 1: pick up the mail you get a lot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: haven't haven't been able to do that because of some stuff.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'll get back there. But I have a
Speaker 1: feeling we'll probably doing this kind of set up for
Speaker 1: a while, so I don't think, you know, even when
Speaker 1: things they get back, I have a feeling that the
Speaker 1: the setup will continue, uh later on. But But anyway,
Speaker 1: what other story. I a couple other bizarre stories that
Speaker 1: I saw surfing around the inter web, the interweb. Do
Speaker 1: you see the magic mushroom story? No? What's the shout
Speaker 1: out super marios? I don't know what is the magic
Speaker 1: mushroom story? Not those kind of magic mushrooms are I'm
Speaker 1: gonna send you the story here is. Well, you don't
Speaker 1: have internet, but your phone's working. It is it is?
Speaker 1: I got rented person up, we can talk. What's that
Speaker 1: rent a person who does nothing in Tokyo? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good story. That's something. Well you can do
Speaker 1: that right now. So yeah, in Japan, this guy, I
Speaker 1: think this is a legit story. I've never heard of
Speaker 1: this newspaper, but it's it's the Japanese National Daily since
Speaker 1: nineteen two? Is it the Menici? Is that how you
Speaker 1: say it's good? I've never been never been to He've
Speaker 1: been to Japan. No. I do want to go to
Speaker 1: Tokyo though, that'd be awesome. Yeah, my dad used to.
Speaker 1: One of the big trips he went on when he
Speaker 1: was working as an engineer was to Japan, and he
Speaker 1: loved He always would tell the story about going to
Speaker 1: Japan and how cool it was and how you know,
Speaker 1: it's just amazing the whole. You know, just opened his
Speaker 1: eyes to this whole. It was really cool for him.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so in Tokyo, this thirties seven year old
Speaker 1: guy rents himself out to other people. He's like, I
Speaker 1: think that's like what prostitutes do. Anyway, he rents himself
Speaker 1: out to other people's quote do nothing, and he has
Speaker 1: been apparently overwhelmed with people on social media whatnot very
Speaker 1: happy with his support. I guess in the Japanese culture,
Speaker 1: apparently you're supposed to work and you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: be a lazy slug, and this guy is a lazy slug.
Speaker 1: He'd do well here in America. And there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things though, So he can eat and drink with
Speaker 1: you and give simple feedback, but he can't do anything more.
Speaker 1: This is better than cameo. Yeah, well, considering now, he
Speaker 1: charges ten thousand yen, which works out to be nineties
Speaker 1: six dollars per per request. Yeah, and I should really
Speaker 1: charge in cameo. I should do yen because it sounds
Speaker 1: more impressive. Boy, right, No, because if you charge in yen,
Speaker 1: it's gonna have a higher dollar amount you don't want
Speaker 1: to have. No, no, no, no, no no, because forty
Speaker 1: dollars in yen, forty U s dollars is four thousand
Speaker 1: Japanese yenn. Yeah, so that's great though, I'm I, I am.
Speaker 1: My price on cameo is four thousand dollars. That might
Speaker 1: intimidate some people though, but it's yen, I know, but
Speaker 1: people don't know any better. Uh, well, I could do
Speaker 1: I can do pesos, right, you can do pastos, Yes,
Speaker 1: I can do pastos. That's seven hundred eighty eight dollars
Speaker 1: in the Mexican peso. So that's that's some more impressive
Speaker 1: than forty bucks. Now, would you Rushton? I've I've I've
Speaker 1: not been to Mexico. I've been I used to work
Speaker 1: in Sandy. I never spent time in Mexico. So how
Speaker 1: how much does the pain? How far does the pace go?
Speaker 1: If I had seven Mexican paces, how far would that go?
Speaker 1: Pretty far? It would? Yeah? So like how I mean,
Speaker 1: how much your drinks? How many pay if I went
Speaker 1: to a bar in Tijuana? How much your drink? Oh,
Speaker 1: you can get drinks really cheap beers or even just
Speaker 1: their their well drinks like liquor and some kind of
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to drink the water though, No, that
Speaker 1: made that bad decision and once and mina zoomas revenge, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did it on a wedding on a cruise down
Speaker 1: there Ticago. Not good. But yeah, a beara gets you.
Speaker 1: I mean how much though, how much? Like two bucks three?
Speaker 1: So you two U S dollars? Yeah, and they take
Speaker 1: so that's like thirty nine paces It's good. Now, it's
Speaker 1: not a it's not a beer in a bottle, it's
Speaker 1: a beer in a plastic cup. But when you're in
Speaker 1: t J, you're you don't give a fuck. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: usually you're at that age of like eighteen nineteen one
Speaker 1: years old where you're down there. I don't recommend going
Speaker 1: to Mexico anytime soon. You're experiencing. You want to stay
Speaker 1: off the roads, away from the fake federalllies that are
Speaker 1: pretending to be federalllies that are not. But even the
Speaker 1: federalllities you can I've heard from many people that cut them,
Speaker 1: cut him a check. No. Yeah, it's no different than
Speaker 1: here in California, where you have mayors and in cities
Speaker 1: like Los Angeles that cut off your power if you're
Speaker 1: hanging out with people and whatnot. So well, just keep
Speaker 1: putting new restrictions and even though they're not working, they
Speaker 1: just keep keep doing. That's good, good strategy, sound strategy. Now,
Speaker 1: would you would you rather be this guy or would
Speaker 1: you see? Here's the thing that sucks is that this
Speaker 1: guy has something going from it's really good thirty seven
Speaker 1: years old, nineties six dollars to do fucking nothing. But
Speaker 1: then you get the females that do nothing but play
Speaker 1: video games and they charge you to watch them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see, I like money, but I also have like
Speaker 1: things like ambition and work ethic and I feel like
Speaker 1: you need to have a purpose in life and those
Speaker 1: kind of things. And so I wouldn't do when when
Speaker 1: I have time off, and I had a lot before,
Speaker 1: you know, I had my my situation my dad. But
Speaker 1: I was on vacation for a couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: it was tough. I I admitted, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: workaholic as much as you can be in a job
Speaker 1: like radio, but it's not like a real job like
Speaker 1: you know, working at a factory, driving a truck or
Speaker 1: something like that. But I put a lot of can
Speaker 1: do it. So yeah, all right, Well the magic mushroom
Speaker 1: story here. Uh so this is I would say, so
Speaker 1: some guy here is in the United States. He ended
Speaker 1: up in the hospital. He had organ failure. Why, he
Speaker 1: injected himself with a team made from magic mushrooms, psychedelic mushrooms,
Speaker 1: and they claimed that these magic mushrooms started growing in
Speaker 1: his veins. Wow. Yeah, this is a journal of the
Speaker 1: Academy of Consultation Liaison Psychiatry. Wow, that's a mouthful. U
Speaker 1: the United fact man thirty ended up surviving. So he did,
Speaker 1: he did survive. And how about imagine that? I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Well, there's magic mushrooms growing in my veins.
Speaker 1: Somebody better tell Joe Rogan so he doesn't go out
Speaker 1: in the Amazon there and uh the the ayahuasca Suddenly
Speaker 1: he starts injecting getting his in his veins. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know about this, but here in l
Speaker 1: A you have certain therapists now that are actually they're
Speaker 1: doing different kind of psychedelic therapy now with their patients.
Speaker 1: They're they're using M D M A, which is ecstasy
Speaker 1: and ketamine. Is that right? Yeah? I was only you
Speaker 1: I read something the UFC is like investigating whether to
Speaker 1: give their fighters some of those psychedelic drugs. That's fat men.
Speaker 1: I read that they used to do that back in
Speaker 1: the day. I know that, and in Europe, and then
Speaker 1: of course it's illegal here in the United States. But
Speaker 1: now they've slowly allowed this to to go down with
Speaker 1: with therapists and their patients. Yeah, it's interesting. All right,
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