1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Bin Laden's Letter to America going viral over twenty years 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: since it initially was circulating and published. This is this 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: is quite a situation that is unfolding here. First, let's 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: let's go to this. TikTok has become the social media 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: website of choice for gen Z in America. I think 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: that's that's clear at this point. And if you look 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: at TikTok, there's a lot of pro Hamas stuff all 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: over the place, and particularly sympathy for you know, Palace 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: hitting cause Hamas, all the rest of it. Well, what 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: you're now seeing are people who have started to look 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: for rationalizations of what Hamas has done. And this this 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: is now going viral. The Bin Laden letter. He wrote 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 2: it a year after the September eleventh of ten, and 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: it was circulating among jihadists online and including in the 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: UK where I believe the Guardian published it. And now 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: the Guardian has pulled it down as I'm speaking to you, 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: and they're saying they're redirectoring people from the letter to 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: a news story. I'm gonna tell you what's really going 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: on with that. In a second, but just to give 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: you a sense of it, these are young people, okay, 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: and they seem to be overwhelmingly America, And I mean 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: maybe some of them are abroad somewhere, but these are 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: young people, early twenties, mid twenties, who with all that's 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: going on, and with these big protests and the DNS, 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: the little riot outside the DNC last night by hamas sympathizers, 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: with all that's happening, They're like, you know, bin Laden, 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah he kind of had a point, They're saying in 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: this listen to some of this play. Nine. I read 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden's letter to America, and if. 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: You have read it, let me know if you are 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: also going through an existential crisis in this very moment, 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: because in the last twenty minutes, my entire viewpoint on 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: the entire life I have believed and I have lived 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: has changed. 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: This has left me very disillusioned. 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: And I feel the same exact way I felt when 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: I was deconstructing Christianity. 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 5: I feel a little. 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: Bit just confused, like I have entered into another timeline. 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: What is this? 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 5: In reading the letter, I could only think of this tweet, 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 5: but I saw the other day under seven or colonialism. 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: Any kind of resistance is branded as terrorists because the 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 5: only acceptable violence is violence by the occupier. 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: The way this letter is going viral right now is 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: giving me the greatest sense of relief. If you're Muslim 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: and you've lived in the US since nine to eleven, 50 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: you know more truth than the typical citizen. Now it's 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: all coming to light because of Palestine. 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 6: Reading this letter, it becomes apparent to me that the 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 6: actions of nine to eleven and those acts committed against 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 6: the USA and its people were all just the build 55 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 6: up of our government failing other nations. 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I joined the CIA because of 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: the eleven attacks and Osama bin Lauden and al Qaida. Okay, 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: so it was something that had a major shift in 59 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: the not just trajectory of my life, but of course 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: of America and of the world. But for me, this 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: this does bring back very specific memories and does feel 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: quite personal. Bin Laden was an Islamic supremacist and a psychopath. Okay. 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: Part of what they're not talking about in this letter, 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: because there's they're saying, oh bin Laden, and you'll hear 65 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: this from people. He just was opposed to US bases 66 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: in the Middle East and the treatment of the Palestinians, 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: and you know, cites a few other things. Oh no, 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: but he also cites you know, homosexuality, He cites the 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: decade ince of the West. He cites a whole bunch 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: of things that they won't talk about as reasons for 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: why we need to be attacked and destroyed. But if 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: you really want to get a sense as to why 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: is bin Ladenism, which which is just another version. He's 74 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: just one leader within the militant Islamic framework, right, I mean, 75 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: he's just you go you look at oh who is 76 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: i'manel Zwakari. I'monel's Wakhari. His number two was a Muslim 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: brotherhood leader, Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas lots of connections there. 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: You start to see all these different entities and organizations. 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: They are Islamic supremacist entities, meaning that there are only 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 2: two kinds of society. There is the land of Islam, 81 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: the dahal Islam, and the land of war the Dar 82 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: al Harb, meaning you can do whatever you want to 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: do because they're the bad guys, they're the infidels. So 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: this people I think I've forgotten and this younger generation, 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of you listening to this are veterans, 86 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: and you know, you saw the evil in Iraq and 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Afghanistan of the Islamic supremacists. You saw what militant islam jihadism. 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: It's it's a viciousness with no end. It's a death 89 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: cult like Hamas, like Hamas. You see, this all actually 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: ties together. And this is why Wait Hamas is a 91 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: resistance organization, right, And it's it's different than al Qaida. 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: It's really not. It's not. And that's why all of 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: a sudden, the people who like Jamas are saying, maybe 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 2: bin Laden had a point. Under bin Laden's framework, first 95 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 2: of all, he just if you read the whole letter, 96 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: and if you read, if you read Jihadis writing in general, 97 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: they absolutely hate Jews. They they the most vile and 98 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: and severe and extreme anti semitism imaginable. I mean anti 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Semitism sounds like too gentle of a term. Islamic supremacists 100 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: hate Jews, all of them, all of them. They have 101 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: been trained to do so. They think it is central 102 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: to their theology. And they will cite Hadith, they will 103 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: cite their own version of scripture in support of this, 104 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: and that is true across the board. It's true of Isis, 105 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: it's true of al Kaida in Iraq, it's true of 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: Boco Haram, it's true of Haas, it's true of hezbe Llah. 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Name me a group al Kaida in the Islamic Maghreb, 108 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: al Shabab in Somalia. Find me a terrorist organization that 109 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: is jihadist, and I will show you people who hate 110 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: the Jews, even if for on the other side of 111 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: the world, Moro Islamic Liberation Front, you know, go over 112 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: to the Philippines, go over to some of the jihadist 113 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: entities that are a little more off the radar, they 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: hate Jews too. Why is that, Oh, because of Palestine, 115 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: you see, because of Palistine they're all trained to care 116 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: so much about this very small piece of land. There's 117 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: a lot of other things that they could be focused on. 118 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: But now they're all told, you know, whether it's terrorists 119 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: in terrorists in Indonesia, very upset about what's going on 120 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: in Palestine. They're all told this. They all believe this. 121 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: But if you look at what bin Laden's belief system 122 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: actually is to the people saying, oh, he just doesn't 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: want military basis off the US in the land of 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: the Two Holy Cities. Idiocy, it's idiocy all over the place. 125 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: He justifies the attack on anyone in any Western society 126 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: at any level, any age, any involvement, meaning you're upset 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: about what's going on, the Palestinians, Nuca City, if you can, 128 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: you get your hands on a nuclear weapon, destroy New York, 129 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: destroy London, kill everybody, justify it. And you say, well, 130 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: whole honestly, how could that be gentle? I mean, that's whoa. 131 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: That's all oppression of the Palestinians, so much historical oppression 132 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: of the Palestinians. There is no outer limit to this 133 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: because it is a death cult. And once you start 134 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: to understand that mentality, once you start to see what 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: they really believe, you recognize you go, oh my god, 136 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: how do how do we deal with these people? Well, 137 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: the way the IDF is dealing with them now, which 138 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: is hunt them down and kill them or put them 139 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: in incarceration for life. That's it. People who are true 140 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: believers in Hamas, those are your options, or else they're 141 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: going to come and kill you again because it is 142 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: central to their identity. I mean, sure, you could talk 143 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: about deradicalization, and I trust me. I was familiar with 144 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: some of the deradicalization programs that various governments have. They 145 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: are overwhelmingly filled. You can try that, but it's generally 146 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: not going to work, and in the meantime you risk 147 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: another attack like what we've just seen. But think about this. 148 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: You have young people today, This is going viral. It's 149 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: all over the place. You have young people today who 150 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: are finding what they think is truth in expressing solidarity 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: with Osama bin Laden. And it all lines up because 152 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: what have I been saying on this show for weeks now, 153 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: You have seen Hamas has shown beyond a doubt that 154 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: it is morally on the same plane that it is 155 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: equivalent to al Qaeda. Ices go down the list. It's 156 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: no different, it's no different. It is soaked in hatred 157 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: of the Jews, soaked in hatred of the West. In 158 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: fact built on a foundation of those hatreds, and ultimately 159 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: is one of the most toxic mentalities that exists in 160 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: any society at any time in history, which is a constant 161 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: loop of victimization that can be used to justify anything. 162 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: And you see this, what you have is the Palestinians 163 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: are held up by the Islamic world. There's the ultimate victims, 164 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: more victimized than any other people in history, more victimized 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: than the Jews, which would seem completely insane to anybody 166 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: who has even the faintest knowledge of twentieth century history 167 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: and the Second World War. But oh, that's right, you know, 168 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: Hamost denize all that. That's also a part of the 169 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: hottest ideology is we're sitting here saying, oh, bin Laden 170 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: had a point. Yeah they didn't. Of course they deny 171 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: the Holocaust. Of course they deny the oppression against the 172 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: Jewish people because they have to be the Palestinians, have 173 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: to be the ultimate victims. And therefore any insufficiency in 174 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: any Muslim society anywhere in the world, or that any 175 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: individual Muslim may feel, or any leftists here in America, 176 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: some blue haired white kid who feels like, you know, 177 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: oh I'm not you know, I don't have a cause. 178 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to be the one who links up arms 179 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: with the Palestinian casts because there are the ultimate victims. 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: And instead of looking inward and thinking what am I 181 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: doing in my life, what am I doing in my society, 182 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: or what is my society really about? That is a failure. 183 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: It's oh I just care about this. I care so 184 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: much about this issue. Half a million people died in 185 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: the Syrian Civil War. Muslim world was like, yeah, let 186 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: them fight it out. One hundred thousand children have died 187 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: in the Yemeni War civil war with the who Thi's 188 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: as long as it's Muslims killing other Muslims. The you know, 189 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: the Islamic world feels very differently about this, as in 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: it's generally indifferent, generally indifferent. But if Jews want to 191 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: live in peace in Israel, no, no, somehow, that's that's 192 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: always a negotiation that has to have Why is that 193 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: a negotiation? I think fortunately the voices of sanity here 194 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: in the West recognize that there can be no negotiation 195 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: with these barbarians. I've seen what their negotiations end up with, 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 2: and look like many of you who have served overseas 197 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: know exactly what I'm talking about. It is a death 198 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: cult and they will destroy as many lives as they 199 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: possibly can in the pursuit of a goal that they 200 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: will never attain because they have been brainwashed into thinking 201 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: that even as they are taking life from innocence, they 202 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: are the victims his story, even if nothing has happened 203 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: to them, Oh my gosh, don't you realize. Don't you 204 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: realize what happened to the Muslim people who lived here 205 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: one hundred years ago, five hundred years ago, a thousand 206 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: years ago. It's never ending. It never ends. And that's 207 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: why these people who are saying bin Laden had some 208 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: good ideas well. He has some good ideas. If you 209 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: want to just completely surrender Western civilization, basic human freedom 210 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: and dignity, if you want the end of the entire 211 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: liberal canon, and I mean liberal as in small level, 212 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: as in people having liberty and people having dignity, you 213 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: better just submit right now. You better bend the knee. 214 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: Then bin Laden would be fine with you, and you better, 215 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: of course convert or pay the jizia, which is the 216 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: special tax for the second clas citizens who are effectively 217 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: treated like cows to be milked. But that's a whole 218 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: other part of Islamic history that you won't really learn 219 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: about in school. I wonder why that is dimitude the 220 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: second class citizen status where if you don't actually pay 221 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: the special tax, which could be crippling depending on the 222 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: society we're talking about, you could be killed. That's the 223 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: version of living peaceably in these societies historically. But again 224 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: I can't go over all the history today, but I 225 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: just wanted to give you some sense as to why 226 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: it is completely insane and deeply immoral, but shows you 227 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: really what we're dealing with here. Who is on the 228 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: left and what do they believe? They like Hamas and 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: they're kind of open to the whole Archada thing too. 230 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: Some interesting ideas, that's what they are saying. And make 231 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: note of it, all right, I want something happy. It's 232 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: gonna be a Thanksgiving next week. 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So it's just me at the Helm and 272 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: we have a lot to discuss here. Pro Palestinian protesters 273 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: were outside of the DNC headquarters last night. There were 274 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: congressional offices locked down, lawmakers evacuated, there were police officers 275 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: pepper sprayed in the face and punched, you know, kind 276 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: of like what we've been told in insurrection looks like. 277 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: But anyway, that happened last night. You also have various 278 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: bridges and traffic arteries being shut down by these left 279 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: wing lunatics. We will discuss where this is on TikTok, 280 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: and I suppose we should have seen this coming. But 281 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: on TikTok there are viral clips now of people who 282 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: are referring to bin Laden as in Osama bin Laden's 283 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: letter to America, and these TikTokers overwhelming the gen z 284 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: leftist maniacs. They are saying things like bin Laden really 285 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: had a point, and there's a lot of talk in 286 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: the Letter to America that bin Laden wrote about Palestinian oppression, 287 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: and so they're tying these things together. We will we 288 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: will annihilate these lunacies, these fallacies together here today on 289 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: the program. That's one of the things that I can 290 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: promise you. Also, just in the news front Congress to 291 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: prove to bill that averted a government shut down and 292 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: has pushed budget negotiations into next year. Got some updates 293 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: for you on Derek Chauvin is trying to get his 294 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: conviction overturned in federal court, and former Marine Daniel Penny. 295 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: Updates on that member of New York City on the 296 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: subway the chokehold, when Penny decided that he was not 297 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: going to allow someone to Jordan Neely to terrify that 298 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: subway car any longer. We'll discuss where all that is going. 299 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: Plus maybe some thoughts on the border. Oh, and we 300 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: have Governor of Iowa, Kim Reynolds, one of the most 301 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: high profile people who has endorsed Rond De Santis for president. 302 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: The Iowa caucuses within site not far away and so 303 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: we're going to talk to her about how she thinks 304 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: that's going to go, and some other important questions here. 305 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: But I wanted to start with what we are seeing 306 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: from the left in this current moment. As you know, 307 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: the IDF went into the Alshifa hospital and is now 308 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: sharing so Israeli defense forces have shared photos of the 309 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: munitions and the machine guns and rocket launchers and probably 310 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: some suicide vests, whatever they've got they're storing in this 311 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: Alshifa hospital. So Hamas committing even more war crimes effectively 312 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: at this point, if you were to make a list 313 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: of possible war crimes that a group or a terrorist 314 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: entity like Hamas could commit, they've checked off almost all 315 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: of them. I don't really know what's left. They don't 316 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: have nuclear weapons, they don't have God forbid chemical weapons, 317 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: so they can't do everything right. They're not firing Sarah, 318 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: they're not firing mustard gas or unleashing seren gas. But 319 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: in terms of a murder of innocence, rape of innocence, 320 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: using civilians as human shields, kidnapping not just civilians but children, 321 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: they have shown themselves to be on the same moral 322 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: plane as al Qaida, and people try to argue with 323 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: me on this, and I just have to point out 324 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: they're wrong. This is obvious. Now this is becoming a 325 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: straightforward issue in terms of right and wrong. There's a 326 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: lot of complexity about the history, and there's a lot 327 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: of nuance you could talk about with regard to this 328 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: date or that date, or this thing or that thing. 329 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: But ultimately you have the forces of civilization and you 330 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: have the forces of barbarism, and Hamas the terrorist group 331 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: is on the side of barbarism. But you wouldn't know 332 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: that if you were to have walked past the DNC 333 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: headquarters last night where this group I think they're called 334 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: if not now when or something thing like that. It 335 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: is really, uh, you know what these idiotic names, I 336 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: think that's what they're called. What is idiotic groups? They're 337 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: out there and they're saying things like, well here you 338 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: can hear one of the protesters. This video went viral. 339 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: This has cut four outside of the d n C headquarters, 340 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: play four. 341 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: The outside outside. 342 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 6: Party claim to the other side of life quality. 343 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: And I want. 344 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: The party. I mean, that's like an audition tape for 345 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: her own show at MSNBC. I have to say, just 346 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: give it some time. She'll probably become a paid constr 347 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: over there, or maybe it's CNN. This is obviously a 348 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: group of people who are emotionally unstable, which comes across 349 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: as this woman is shutting. But I think it's important 350 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: we look at things for what they are. And when 351 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: you have this massive protesters, as already pointed out, only 352 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: one arrest. I believe that might have been updated, but 353 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: as I was reading this morning, one arrest, cops are 354 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: being pepper sprayed and punched. What January sixth protesters get 355 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: treated like their prisoners in the Soviet Gulag for walking 356 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: inside the capital, for interfering with an official proceeding, But 357 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: capitol police can be punched and pepper sprayed by left 358 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: wing maniacs who are on the side of a terrorist 359 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: group that just committed a mass murder of fourteen hundred Jews. 360 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: And let's not get too hasty with these arrests. The 361 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: two tier justice system still in full effect, isn't it. 362 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: In fact, it keeps getting worse because it keeps getting 363 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: more obvious, and as it gets more obvious, they feel 364 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: less need to try to hide from you that this 365 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: is the new reality, this is the world that we 366 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: live in. Over time, they become more thuggish, not less. 367 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: Once they've crossed one line, they'll cross another line. But 368 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: when they demand a ceasefire, right now, understand what they're 369 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: really saying that Hamas is supposed to continue as an 370 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: entity that is going to what try to achieve peace 371 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: with Israel. Hamas has never wanted peace with Israel. Hamas 372 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: has been a terrorist group for the entirety of its existence. 373 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: Its stated goal is the eradication of the Israeli state 374 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: and the elimination of the Jewish people. So when they 375 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: call for a cease fire, it's to what end. Well, 376 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: it's to make sure that Israel can't defend itself. And 377 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 2: it's actually even worse than that. It's worse than Israel 378 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: can't seek justice or defend itself. In this instance, it's 379 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: that they demand that Israel live in constant fear of 380 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: the next attack. It's to actually give aid and comfort 381 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: to the t r is campaign of psychological destruction that 382 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: they are trying to wage against the Israeli people and 383 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: the Jewish people with inside of Israel, but also Jews 384 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: around the world. That's the goal here, to make sure 385 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: that they are never able to feel safe anywhere. They're 386 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: not allowed to fight back because of all the historical oppression, 387 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: because of all the colonialism. We'll talk about all this 388 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: colonialism stuff and how the Israeli Palestindian conflict because of 389 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: the way the global left has racialized everything. When I 390 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: say global, I mean here the West and you know, 391 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: the European American political discourse, right I'm not talking about 392 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: the left in you know, Thailand right now, So here 393 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: we have the racialization of a conflict in essence that 394 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: the left they don't care about. The nuances that I've 395 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: discussed with you are just the not even nuances, the 396 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: basic facts that there are a whole heck of a 397 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: lot of people inside of Israel who you wouldn't think 398 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: of as as white, but they still think of Israel 399 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: as a white settler colonial state. That's what they say. 400 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: They don't just think of it. That's how they attack it. 401 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: And last night outside the DNC you had all of 402 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: these maniacs who were demanding a ceasefire on the premise 403 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: that whatever is done to Israel. And remember this, you 404 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: start to see this, and we're going to talk about 405 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: the connections that they are openly drawn now between Israel being, 406 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: in essence, the cause of the attacks on it. That's 407 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: what they're saying, We should just be honest about it. 408 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: Israeli policy, Israel, Israeli action, Jewish action in the state 409 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: of Israel. The American left is saying, you know, because 410 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: of your oppression, this is going to happen, so you've 411 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: got to come to the negotiating table. But the other 412 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: side doesn't even want to negotiate. So what are they 413 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: talking about. But it's the same conversation that happened but 414 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: in a little bit more muted fashion in this country 415 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: after nine to eleven with bin Laden, which is why 416 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: you have all these tiktoks going viral right now. But 417 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: maybe bin Laden had a point. What could be more 418 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: not only stupid, but terrifying in the sense that these 419 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: are the malcontents within our own society and they can 420 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 2: see something like what happened in Israel had come to 421 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: the exact wrong conclusion, and then look at what happened 422 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: here at home in this country and say, yeah, maybe 423 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: that too was caused by America's history of foreign postive member. 424 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: We weren't really technically a colonial power, though some people 425 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: say Spanish American War and they'll get into all these specifics, 426 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: but what they really mean, by the way, when they 427 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: talk about anti colonialism, when the left talks about what 428 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: is anti colonial, what they mean is anti white because 429 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: no other historical period of conquest and effective colonization is 430 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: referred to in this As I've talked to you in 431 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: the past, if you're going to look at jee hottiest 432 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: entities and what their goals are, one of the one 433 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: of the baseline fallacies of all this, one of the 434 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: things that they get the most wrong, one of the 435 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: foundational lies to all of this. And you see this 436 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: in the talk about whether it's Hamas, oh they you know, 437 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: they just want what exactly, They want a one state 438 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: solution or they want a majority Muslim state so they 439 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: can kick out all the Jews and probably kill as 440 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: many Jews as they can in the process. That's what 441 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: Hamas wants. It's what they've always wanted. But there's this 442 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: belief that is forwarded on the left that if only 443 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: these people of this ideology, if only militant Islam Hamas 444 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: al Qaida Isis were left alone, everything would be fine. 445 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: Just look at history. They're just opposed to colonialism. Many 446 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: they just don't want all of the oppression from the West, 447 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: and by that they mean white oppression. They don't want 448 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: all of this oppression their's societies. You say, well, hold 449 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: on a second, gie. Hottists in recent years have justified 450 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: attacks in Europe and in Spain specifically as saying, well, 451 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Spain used to be Andalusia. It was a Muslim Muslim 452 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: caliphate in fact, and then fourteen ninety two they were expelled, 453 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: and they still refer to that. I mean, they blow 454 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: people up today, just so you understand, or they would 455 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: blow people up today. They've blown people up in recent years, 456 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: they have murdered innocence on and then explicitly stated that 457 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: this is because you know, five hundred years ago Spain 458 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: was ours and it needs to be ours again. You 459 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: think you're going to negotiate with these people, You think 460 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: it's really about anti colonialism. They sit now in the 461 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: Levant and in what we would call, you know, the 462 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: Near East. It's kind of a part of the Middle East, 463 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: in what was all Christian and Jewish territory until well 464 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: Muslim conquest. Right, what was Istanbul called before it was 465 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: called Constantinople, right, And what happened in fourteen fifty three, 466 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: there was a Muslim invasion. They took the city, which 467 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: was actually the Jewel in terms of cities of all 468 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: of Christendom at that time. It was a continuation of 469 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: the Roman Empire in the Eastern Orthodox Christian world. And yeah, 470 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: they took it over. Now, I'm not sitting here saying 471 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: that Turkey needs to give something back to Rome. I'm 472 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: just saying they are playing fast and loose with the 473 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: history all the time. They are completely selective in their 474 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: outrage about it. And if you think that any of 475 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: these groups or entities or individuals are criticizing in good 476 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: faith that Hamas and its supporters, oh, it's really just 477 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 2: about the oppression. If only the oppression would stop, then 478 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 2: we would be okay with things. That's a lie. We 479 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: have to address this lie right away. It's not that 480 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: if only Israel did X, if only the Jews did, 481 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: why then the Jihadis, then Hamas, then al Qaeda, then 482 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: the anti Semites, then the college lunatics running around saying 483 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: the things that they say in solidarity with Hamas. If 484 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 2: only a different choice was made, then everything would be okay. 485 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: That is a lie what we've seen here, and this 486 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: is why there's been a fundamental shift in the way 487 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: we look at the Israeli Palestinian conflict is that we 488 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: know Hamas and its co conspirators and its allies and 489 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: Hesbellah and Iran and the rest of them, they are 490 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: the aggressors in this because they will be the perpetually aggrieved. 491 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: It will never stop, It will never stop, because they 492 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: are societies that are rooted in hatred of the Jewish people. 493 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: Just gonna be honest, that's the truth about the Gaza strip. 494 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: And there's a whole lot more of that across the 495 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: broader Middle East as well. And they have no interest. 496 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: The people that take this position, that support Hamas, they 497 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: have no interest in coexistence. And they'll never stop their 498 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: their grievance collection. They'll never stop saying that there's something 499 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: that justifies whatever it is that they want. They'll go 500 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: back five hundred, they'll go back a thousand years that 501 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: they have to. It doesn't matter. They want what they want. 502 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: And here's what they definitely do not want to look 503 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: at their own societies and the failures and the oppression 504 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: and the tyranny within. Whether you're looking at Hesbelow run 505 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: Lebanon or Hamas run Gaza, or the Mullas in Tehran, 506 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: or go down the list. Don't look at the failures 507 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: in their own societies and why not only are they 508 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: miserable places to live, but they're not very powerful either. 509 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: What's going on there? Oh, no blame, It's all about Jerusalem. 510 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: If only they had control of Jerusalem, everything would be better. 511 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: Eight hunder two eight A two. See, we have to 512 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: address these lies in the most straightforward fashion. Who is 513 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: there for the families left behind when a service member 514 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: or first responder dies? For that matter, who is there 515 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: for the severely injured in the line of duty? And 516 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: who's helping our nation's homeless veterans. There's one answer to 517 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: all three questions, The Tunnel the Towers Foundation. The Foundations 518 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: in the line of Duty programs honor our nation's heroes 519 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: and their families. That includes its gold Star, Fallen first Responders, 520 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: Smart Home, and Homeless Veteran programs. 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Just go to this website T 530 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: the number two T dot org. Chiefing you real, chiefing 531 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: it honest. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton and welcome backgam 532 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: We want to take some your calls here on Clay 533 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: And also a few VIPs wrote in I was referencing 534 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: this this you know, stand up against hate campaign and 535 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: some of the older ads that I had seen, some 536 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: of them are recirculating now it is Yeah, it's the 537 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: son who was posting anti Semitic things in the clip 538 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: and the father in this video who is correcting the 539 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: the stupidity and anti semitism of the son. But what 540 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: it is getting some attention online now is just that 541 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: it's you know, a dad in a carhart jacket, a 542 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: son who you know, look, I think they're like they're 543 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: in a pickup truck. And this is supposed to be 544 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: what anti Semitism looks like this this kid and this 545 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: father in the pickup truck. And what we've really seen 546 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: is that anti Semitism after October seventh has been a 547 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: left wing phenomenon in major cities, and a lot of 548 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: it is coming from people who are not white. So 549 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: that's what is interesting about this, and also the racialization 550 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: of the Arab or I keep saying Arab is really 551 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: the Palestinian is rarely conflict, and how it's seen in 552 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: this country as somehow Israel is white and Israel's oppressing 553 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: the Palestinians who are brown, and that is the very 554 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: simplistic take. But that's how the left wing machinery now 555 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: mobilizes and functions around this issue. So the campaign has 556 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: some people are saying, there's some other ads, there's some 557 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: good ads from the campaign. These are old ads, but 558 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: they're recirculating now on social media, and I just think 559 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: it is worth noting that you know, what you're seeing, 560 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: the real anti semitism you're seeing is coming from the left, 561 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: that's all, and coming from people who you would well, 562 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: coming from people who spend a lot of time talking 563 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: about their own oppression. They're worried about their oppression, but 564 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: also they have anti Semitism that they are sharing. All Right, 565 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: I want to get into some politics here for a moment, 566 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: or rather electoral politics. And here's what we've got. Latest 567 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: latest national poll Trump Biden general election and a whole 568 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: bunch of different polls. Fox News has Trump up four. Okay, fine, 569 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: Fox News, right, Quinnipiac has Trump up to Yahoo News 570 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: has Trump up to. Economist you go of Trump up 571 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: one morning, Console Trump up one, and Rasmussen has Biden 572 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: up four. Really well, that's kind of a surprise. But anyway, 573 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: a lot of polls showing Trump ahead. Now this is 574 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: where I put out all the provisos and I want 575 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: to be sure that here's what we just saw. And 576 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: I haven't really said this on the show, I don't think, 577 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: but the numbers were looking really bad for Biden. Democrats 578 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: that looked like they were losing ground. The economy is 579 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: weak and prices are high, and yet we just had 580 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: a really disappointing election day. Disappointing in Virginia, disappointing with 581 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: a bunch of state ballot measures with regard to abortion, 582 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: a lot of disappointing with regard to the Kentucky governor's race. Right, 583 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: a lot of losses that Republicans have taken on this 584 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: most recent election despite Biden. He can barely I mean Bidens, 585 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: medi Washesien Ping. As you know in San Francisco, they 586 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: cleaned up the streets of San Francisco just for Shiji 587 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 2: and Ping's visit. You would think they could do that 588 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: on a more regular basis, but no, only for she 589 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: got to make sure the streets look good. And there 590 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people lining the streets welcoming the communist 591 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: dictator of China. But Biden. There's clip circulating already of 592 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: the same thing we always see, which is Biden. You know, 593 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 2: I really know what's going on the whole thing. And yeah, 594 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: he's feeble, he's too old, he looks confused and all 595 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: this stuff. And yet look what just happened. I know 596 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 2: Biden wasn't on the ballot, but how does the country feel? 597 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: Countries move in the wrong direction. You see huge numbers, 598 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: countries move in the wrong direction. Democrats just want a 599 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: bunch of elections. You say, okay, Buck, we was an 600 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: off year election and nothing really that important. I mean 601 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 2: it's important, I think if you're a Virginian. But nothing 602 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 2: that important was decided in the election. Why I say, 603 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: what about twenty twenty two? The numbers on crime and 604 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: immigration and the economy inflation specifically all looked great for Republicans. 605 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: And where did we have really big wins in twenty 606 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: twenty two? Well, Florida Governor n DeSantis, and you know 607 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: a few other places, but nothing so great. A lot 608 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 2: of the tight elections, a lot of the important races 609 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: went to Democrats, despite the polls, despite the perception, despite 610 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: the numbers. And this is why you have a couple 611 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: of things. One there's the messaging and there's the machinery 612 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 2: that we will be up against. Let's start with the messaging. 613 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: This is over at MSNBC Willie Geist here he is 614 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: saying that this is what the election, this is sixteen, 615 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: This is what the election will come down to, democracy 616 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: versus fascism. 617 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 7: The reason that mar Arjor Taylor Green and others like 618 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 7: her behave this way, it's not an accident. 619 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: It's because there's a reward for it. 620 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 7: It's because she's going to get re elected with eighty 621 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 7: percent of the voter wherever it's going to be in 622 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 7: her district. So the voters want that At least in 623 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 7: her case. And on the question of the story, it 624 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 7: does appear the White House and the Biden campaign has 625 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 7: started to get that that you can't just run and say, well, 626 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 7: unemployments that historic close. The GDP number was good this month, 627 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 7: inflation is coming down. You have to start to tell 628 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 7: this story of democracy versus fascism, which is where the 629 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 7: stakes will be next year. 630 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: Okay, the story is democracy versus fascism. He says that 631 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: after a week of Trump is Hitler news cycle, which 632 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: we have seen because he used the word vermin to describe, 633 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 2: you know, the communists and leftists, you know, in our 634 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: mixed whatever. So they are going to do this. It's 635 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: going to be democracy versus fascism. And will that work 636 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: on a vast majority of the American people, No, of 637 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 2: course not. Will it move the one or two percent 638 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: that will make the difference in six swing states. That's 639 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 2: what the Democrats are banking on when it comes to messaging. 640 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: I just I find it particularly galling that they say 641 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: that this is a contest of democracy versus fascism when 642 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: during COVID we saw the Democrats are the fascists. Actually, 643 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: the Biden administration is far closer to fascist than anything 644 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: you ever saw from Donald Trump. Think about this. Imagine 645 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: you were to line this up. Imagine if I could 646 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: actually have this debate with some Democrats sit there and 647 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: say they say Trump is the fascist. I say, no, 648 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: Biden's actually much more the fascist. Biden's the one who 649 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: gave a speech, you know, flanked by marines with the 650 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 2: red lighting behind him, talking about how if you don't 651 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: get that vaccine shot, you're basically murdering people, and we 652 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 2: should get you fired from your job, and you better 653 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: carry around something that tells everybody that you're you know clean, 654 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: you've gotten the shot, you're good. Doesn't that sound a 655 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: whole lot more like fascism authoritarianism than anything Trump did? 656 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: What is the big fascist move that they're going to 657 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: say that Trump pulled disputing an election? Democrats have disputed elections. 658 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: So where exactly is the fascism? Where was the fascism 659 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 2: when he was in office? With Joe Biden? It's very straightforward. 660 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: He wanted to make you get a shot that was 661 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: effectively worthless and that you didn't need. And if you 662 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: didn't want to do that, you were to get fired 663 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 2: from your job. Can't feed yourself with your family, you're 664 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: out on the street. Why because they say so, because 665 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 2: they're anxious about COVID. That feels a whole lot more 666 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: like fascism to me, doesn't it doesn't that feel a 667 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: whole lot more like the collective overriding the rights of 668 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 2: the individual, and a kind of extreme political allegiance that 669 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: makes people abandon even the most basic humanitarian and just 670 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 2: human impulse to be kind to one another, the treat 671 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: for Americans to treat each other like Americans. Now, the 672 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 2: ones who were using state power and policy to destroy that, 673 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: we're democrats and not pre I'm not talking about historically 674 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: or way back when I'm talking about this regime, this 675 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: Biden administration. What they did on COVID was the most 676 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: fascistic authoritarian thing we have seen in living memory in 677 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 2: this country. So if it's going to be democracy versus fascism, 678 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 2: I can tell you I know who the fascists are. 679 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: It's the Biden regime. Now. That also brings me to, well, 680 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: why is it that when the numbers are where they are, 681 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: and people are concerned about the trajectory of the country 682 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: and we have all of these problems, why is it 683 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: that we've just had a couple of really uninspiring election results. 684 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 2: They have figured out it's not about the polls. It's 685 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: not about the perception. It's not about the truth, it's 686 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: not about regality. It is about vote counting. Where do 687 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 2: you get them and who's counting them. They have better 688 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: machinery in this regard. I said, messaging in machinery, the 689 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: messaging on fashions, and we talked about that, the machinery 690 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in Michigan, in Georgia. Who is 691 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 2: more on it? Which state party is going to have 692 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: more early voting, more mail in ballots, more ballot chase 693 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: for low propensity voters, and all of these things. That 694 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: is what is going to determine who actually is in 695 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: power and who the next president of the United States is. 696 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: And I don't think that the Republican Party. I mean, 697 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: this is the same Republican Party. We just got a 698 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: new speaker. Guess what they just funded the government. I 699 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 2: told people this, I told you I gave a live speech. 700 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: Speech is always going to be live, right. I gave 701 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: a speech in South Bend with some friends of mine, 702 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: and you know, they kept asking me. The audience kept 703 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: a great audience, and they kept asking me, though, why 704 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: aren't you more excited about this, the fight over the 705 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: speaker's gavel? And I just said, because they're not going 706 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 2: to do anything. They just funded the government til the 707 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: end of the year. There you go, oh okay. So 708 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: I bring this up not just not to despair, but 709 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: because I want it early in this process. Say this, 710 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: and there are a lot of activists who listen to 711 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: the show. There are a lot of members of congressional 712 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 2: staffs who listen to this. Members of Congress listen to 713 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: the show. We have to get on the machinery side 714 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: of this and understand the laws and the individual states, 715 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: and have the legal teams in place to both prepare 716 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 2: and to challenge, to have the get out the vote 717 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: efforts in place, and to embrace every tool of electoral 718 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: victory in the most machiavellian fashion possible if it's legal 719 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 2: and it helps we do it. That has to be 720 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: the approach. All right, all this stuff about how oh no, 721 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear like a tri corner hat and go 722 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: on election day because it can only be one day. 723 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: And you know this is why the founding fathers warrant it. 724 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: We're just gonna lose in those states. We're just gonna 725 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 2: lose again. And I can tell you I'm definitely tired 726 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 2: in these last couple elections of losing key races, races 727 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: that should not have been lost. And so I think 728 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: now is the time to talk about it, and I 729 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 2: will invite. I'll get some of the people that are 730 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: doing this work. We'll get them on the show, because 731 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: it's critical to highlight where good things are being done 732 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: in this regard and also where we have gaps. The 733 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: elections less than a year away. This stuff has to 734 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: be dealt with now, because I can tell you this. 735 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 2: If we just think, oh, we're gonna win Pennsylvania because 736 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: Trump is so much better than Biden. They just elected 737 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 2: John Fetterman as the United States Senator, you think that 738 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: Biden's that bet, I wouldn't count on it. We got 739 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: to get this done. 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Governor, appreciate you 764 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 2: being here. 765 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 8: Oh hi back, It's great to be with you. Thanks 766 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 8: for the opportunity. Thanks for me the voice of reason. 767 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 8: We appreciate that. 768 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: I do what I can. Thank you, Clay, and I 769 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: do our best. Thank you. I wanted to, but we 770 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: want to get to Iowa the Caucuses. All that and 771 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: your endorsement in a second. But I think the border 772 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 2: is among the most important issues in the country right now, 773 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: and anyone listens to the show knows that this has 774 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 2: been a something that I've been deeply involved in covering 775 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 2: and spending time down there now for many years. You 776 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: have a plan that I wanted you to discuss with 777 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 2: everyone for what can be done at the border, given 778 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 2: that it's the most wide open it's ever been. You've 779 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 2: got at least six seven million have come in under Biden. 780 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: What can be done about this and how would the 781 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: military play a role? 782 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I mean, I think it's also 783 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 8: Ronda Fantasis planet. It's just another example of how we 784 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 8: align on policies and what needs to be done to 785 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 8: not only secure our nations, to make sure that we're 786 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 8: taking our nation security into account, to stop the inflow 787 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 8: of human traffic and most importantly drugs that we're seeing 788 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 8: pouring over the border. So, first of all, you reinstall 789 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 8: the remain in Mexico policy, you actually build the wall. 790 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 8: He's got a plan in place to pay for it, 791 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 8: so he actually will pay Mexico pay for the wall 792 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 8: through the remittments taxes. In addition to that, get the 793 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 8: military down on the border and identify the cartel for 794 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 8: what they are, a terraced You know, we're seeing the 795 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 8: impact in Iowa. Every single state is a border state. 796 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 8: We have two major interstates that run through Iowa, Interstate 797 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 8: thirty five Interstate eighty, and it is absolutely a direct 798 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 8: path from Mexico to the Midwest for human traffickers and 799 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 8: drug cartels. And we are seeing exponentially the number of 800 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 8: seizures increase. We've seen a five hundred percent increase in fentanyl, 801 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 8: one hundred percent increase in meth. We've seen a thirty 802 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 8: five percent increase in drug related death. And this is 803 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 8: what every single state is experiencing. We're not only seeing 804 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 8: in our urban areas, but we're seeing it infiltrate our 805 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 8: rural areas as well. And so you have to stop 806 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 8: the flow. You have to put back in place the 807 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 8: policies that worked. You have to figure out a way 808 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 8: to get the illegals back. I mean, we have seen 809 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 8: over I think it's over six million illegals that have 810 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 8: invaded our homeland. The number of known terrorists that have 811 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 8: crossed the border is concerning, especially when you see what's 812 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 8: happened in Israel and around the world, and then just 813 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 8: take into account the one point six million got aways 814 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 8: just in twenty twenty three. I mean, it's unconscionable. It 815 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 8: is ridiculous. As a state, I mean, Texas has been 816 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 8: ground zero for the last two and a half years. 817 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 8: They have allocated nine billion dollars of taxpayer money and 818 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 8: Texas just to do the job of what this president 819 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 8: and this administration should do. It's a dereliction of duties. 820 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 8: It's unconscionable. It's an assault on our constitution and the 821 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 8: American people, and it's ridiculous that this has fallen to 822 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 8: the states. When Governor abbotts a request, I was so 823 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 8: proud of the number of Republican governors that stood up. 824 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 8: We not only sent our Iowa National Guard down to 825 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 8: the border to provide some relief, but we also send 826 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 8: our law enforcement down. This is the second time we've 827 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 8: sent law enforcement down now. I was proud to say 828 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 8: that I didn't use any taxier dollars. I figured out 829 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 8: a way to use some of those arta dollars that 830 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 8: were coming into the state. After all, it is the 831 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 8: federal government and this president's responsibility to protect our border 832 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 8: and the sovereignty of this country, and so I used 833 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 8: those dollars to get our people down to the southern 834 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 8: border to help help provide them some relief and to 835 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 8: put in place a mechanism to prevent them from stepping 836 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 8: on American soil and then just being processed and released 837 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 8: into the country. We had a unique situation, oh gosh, 838 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 8: I think it was when Biden was first elected president, 839 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 8: where we had a plane land at our Des Molin airport. 840 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 8: There were fifteen young girls on that plane and in 841 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 8: the middle of the night, I had no idea they 842 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 8: were coming. Somebody actually was able to video that and 843 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 8: provide evidence to us, and we started working with the 844 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 8: Biden administration, and for months they denied having anything to 845 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 8: do with it. I said, well, we're not letting up 846 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 8: because if it's not you, then this is human trafficking 847 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 8: that's taking place, and we're going to get to the 848 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 8: bottom of it. Only after months and months of denial, 849 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 8: they finally admitted that yeah, it was Homeland that was 850 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 8: actually you know, transporting them and they didn't stay in Iowa. 851 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 8: There was charter buses waiting for them on the tarmac 852 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 8: to take these poor girls to several others dates. So 853 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 8: as a governor, we have a responsibility to protect the 854 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 8: health and safety of the citizens that we serve. And 855 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 8: when you don't know when they're coming into your state, 856 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 8: how they're coming into your state, it makes that really 857 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 8: really difficult. So I appreciate the program and the plan 858 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 8: that Ron has put in place. And what gives me 859 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 8: great confidence about that plan is because this guy has 860 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 8: followed through with one hundred percent of his promises that 861 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 8: I know he will deliver and on day one, he 862 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 8: will do exactly what he said he's going to do 863 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 8: and start implementing those similar policies that will start to 864 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 8: protect this country and American citizens. And it's just that's 865 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 8: like step one and getting this country back on track 866 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 8: and you know, getting us back to the great country 867 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 8: that we are. 868 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: So we're speaking of Governor of Kim Renolds, yep, yep, 869 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: Governor Kim Reynolds of Iowa. And since you're you're kind 870 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 2: of leading in already to my next question for you, 871 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: which is you are given that you're a governor with 872 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 2: very strong numbers in your home state of Iowa, and 873 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: Iowa was the first in the nation. Right, so we're 874 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: going to have the caucus what middle of January? I believe, right, 875 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: January fifteenth, yep, yep, January fifteenth. And although eyes the 876 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 2: nation are going to be on Iowa obviously, as they 877 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 2: are when this happens every four years, you have endorsed 878 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 2: Governor Ron de Santis. Governor Ron de Santis, I'm a Floridian. 879 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: I think he's been a phenomenal governor here in Florida. 880 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 2: He's trailing in all of the least the national polls 881 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 2: considerably to Donald Trump. Why did you go with DeSantis? 882 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: Because you I have a lot of Trump listeners and 883 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: a lot of the Santus listeners right now, So make 884 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 2: the cases you would for why you thought he was 885 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 2: the right choice. 886 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 8: Well, for a whole host of reasons, and most importantly, 887 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 8: I would encourage everybody just to look at his records. 888 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 8: So we'll start there. But we are the first the 889 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 8: nation caucus. I want to give you a little background. 890 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 8: I felt like it was my responsibility to welcome all 891 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 8: the candidates to the state to make sure that I 892 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 8: could provide a platform for them to share their vision 893 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 8: and message about why they thought they should have the 894 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 8: opportunity to be the candidate to serve as the next 895 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 8: president of the United States. And it was important that 896 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 8: we did that. For seven months, they have chrisscrossed the state. 897 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 8: They've really pitched their vision. I hosted almost all of 898 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 8: them at the Iowa State Fair. We did the Fairsy 899 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 8: Chat again, a lot of one on ones. I've had 900 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 8: opportunity to participate in the events and really to see 901 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 8: how engaged islands were. So that's why I don't believe 902 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 8: the national polls. I talked to a lot of Iolands. 903 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 8: I'm very much on the ground across the state doing 904 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 8: a lot of one on ones, and people are showing 905 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 8: up at all of the events. They're listening, they're asking 906 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 8: good questions. We take this very seriously. We are starting, 907 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 8: we are starting to see the field narrow and so 908 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 8: we did that for seven months. But as I have 909 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 8: continued to see the decline of this country, and as 910 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 8: I have seen, you know, we're in a bad place. 911 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 8: The country's in trouble. As I see what's happening around 912 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 8: the world with the weakness that this president has shown 913 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 8: on the world stage, it's emboldened our enemies. And you know, 914 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,919 Speaker 8: I am a governor, but first and foremost, I'm the mom, 915 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 8: and I'm a grandma, and I'm an American and I 916 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 8: just could not sit on the sidelines any longer. There's 917 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 8: too much at stake. We need somebody that can win. 918 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 8: We don't get a redo. We need somebody that not 919 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 8: only has the skill, but has the result to just 920 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 8: reverse the madness that we're seeing on every single day. 921 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 8: I need somebody that's disciplined and focused and really focused 922 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 8: on the future and not looking to the past. And 923 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 8: we need somebody that can, on day one, get to 924 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 8: work and implement. And I appreciate all their vision and 925 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 8: what they say they're going to do, but when I 926 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 8: started looking at the records and I started looking at 927 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 8: how it aligned with what we've done here at Iowa, 928 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 8: I know from a governor's perspective how hard it is 929 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 8: to do things as a governor, to make things happen, 930 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 8: especially big things. It's easy to go in with a 931 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 8: light agenda and try to, you know, tweak around the edges. 932 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 8: But to take on things like COVID and Disney and 933 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 8: parental choice and educational freedom, you've got to be a leader, 934 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 8: and you've got to be able to take the barbs, 935 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 8: and you've got to be able to execute. And Ron 936 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 8: has executed on one hundred percent of his promises. 937 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 2: And you think he can win in Iowa, and then 938 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: you think he can win nationally. 939 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 8: Oh, I think he can win in Iowa. Wouldn't get 940 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 8: on board. He definitely can win in Iowa. 941 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 2: The poll. 942 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 8: First of all, nobody should be paying attention to the 943 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 8: national polls. This isn't a national race. This is a 944 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 8: caucus in a primary, and it's early. Iowan's break late, 945 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 8: I'm seeing it. I've had so many people come up 946 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 8: that you can you can say the momentum. He's the 947 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 8: only one that has the ground game in place, and 948 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 8: that's really really important. He's the only one that's put 949 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,240 Speaker 8: in the work. He's going to all ninety nine counties. 950 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 8: He's doing retail politics, face to face, taking questions, talking 951 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 8: about in envision. But then you got to get people 952 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 8: there on a January potentially winter night, on you know, 953 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 8: January fifteenth. You got to get people there that believe 954 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 8: in what you're doing. If you look at the last 955 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 8: Iowa poll that was released, the same percentage of likely 956 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 8: Republican cock scorers are considering both Trump and Ron DeSantis, 957 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 8: it was at sixty seven percent. So he's the second 958 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 8: choice for most of them. You know, I just he 959 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 8: definitely there is a path. He's got to work hard. 960 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 8: He's doing what he needs to be doing to get there. 961 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 8: And again, I would just encourage people to look at 962 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 8: the record. And here's the other thing. We need somebody 963 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 8: that can win. This guy has won. We both ran 964 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 8: in twenty eighteen, barely made across the finish line. Horrible 965 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 8: year for Republicans. I think he won by one percent. 966 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 8: I won by about two. He came back in twenty 967 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 8: twenty two. He won by twenty. I won by nineteen 968 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 8: because we told our constituents what we were going to 969 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 8: do and we followed through with it. He brought in 970 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 8: demographics that Republicans have not been winning for the last 971 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 8: two elections, and I'm tired of losing. I want somebody 972 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 8: that can get sixty two percent of the Hispanic vote. 973 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 8: I want somebody that can bring in independence. I want 974 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 8: somebody that can give Republicans a hope and a vision, 975 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 8: and somebody that knows that they're going to follow through 976 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 8: with what they say they're going to do, that has 977 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 8: the moral conviction to do the right thing even when 978 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 8: it's really really hard. He's principled and to be honest, 979 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 8: and I'm just I mean this from my heart. This 980 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 8: is a personal decision. He Ron is probably the most 981 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 8: effective leader that I have seen in my lifetime, and 982 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 8: it's inspiring for me to see that. I appreciate it 983 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,720 Speaker 8: because again, I know it's not I know it's not easy, 984 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 8: so I need people to you know, sometimes we get 985 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 8: so caught up on the delivery three of the message. 986 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 8: So we don't need an entertainer. We don't need look 987 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 8: at how they execute, look at what they've been able 988 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 8: to do. Focus on who has followed through with what 989 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 8: they said that they were going to do, because listen, 990 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,439 Speaker 8: we need somebody that not only can step in there 991 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 8: and on day one execute and get this country back 992 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 8: on track, which I believe he'll do. If he can 993 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 8: do for this country what he's done in Florida for 994 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 8: the last four years, we're going to see America's comeback. 995 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 8: And most importantly, he'll do just what like he did 996 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 8: from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two. Because he will 997 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 8: follow through with what he said he's going to do. 998 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 8: We're going to get eight years of awesome leadership instead 999 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 8: of potentially you know, four, So I just we need 1000 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 8: to look long term, we need to look at you 1001 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 8: know what that means for this country. And that's why 1002 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 8: I landed where I landed. 1003 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 2: Governor Kim Renolds of IWA. Appreciate your passion and thank 1004 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,919 Speaker 2: you for making the time for us year at today 1005 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 2: on the show. 1006 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 8: Thanks so much, you bet take care. 1007 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 2: Thank you. Look, I want to open up the lines 1008 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 2: because obviously the governor feels very strongly that DeSantis is 1009 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 2: the right choice, and I know a lot of you 1010 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 2: have very powerful opinions in support of or perhaps in 1011 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 2: the other direction, or for another candidate. 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