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Speaker 3: Our friends invited us to their wedding and it was

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Speaker 3: the worst.

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Speaker 4: Ever, Oh boy, bad wedding.

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Speaker 5: My husband and I are invited to a wedding in

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Speaker 5: two weeks time and it is the most unorganized and

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Speaker 5: weirdest thing ever. We have a couple of friends attending

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Speaker 5: and had a call today to have a what the

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Speaker 5: f session as we're all equally.

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Speaker 3: Confused, so let me tell you about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm Carly, I'm Angie, and we're here.

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Speaker 5: To give good advice goofully, but we don't have all

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Speaker 5: the answers. We really know what we would do, so

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Speaker 5: let us know what you would do in the comments

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Speaker 5: and Opie.

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Speaker 3: Says, this wedding is in Paris.

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Speaker 5: We're all from France originally, but from different parts and

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Speaker 5: all currently living and working abroad. Paris is known to

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Speaker 5: be really expensive and definitely never a first choice from

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Speaker 5: provincial people like us. But whatever, we never received official

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Speaker 5: save the dates or invites, just invited into a WhatsApp.

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Speaker 3: Group to give us the details. We're told the wedding.

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Speaker 5: Will be at the town hall on Saturday morning at nine,

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Speaker 5: then to meet them for lunch on a boat they've

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Speaker 5: rented at one, but to find ourselves what to do

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Speaker 5: between the wedding and lunch. Then told us that the

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Speaker 5: lunch is actually just snacks and a few drinks, buffet style,

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Speaker 5: and that we're encouraged to bring drinks if we want

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Speaker 5: something other than beers and soft drinks. The boat is

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Speaker 5: only rented in till eight pm and after that everyone has.

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Speaker 3: To go home.

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Speaker 5: This is very unheard of at a French wedding. A

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Speaker 5: wedding without a party is not really one.

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Speaker 4: That's like in the olden days, where it's like you

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Speaker 4: have to consummate the wedding.

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Speaker 3: You have to have a park. We got a dance, please,

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Speaker 3: if we have a dance married.

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Speaker 5: We've planned with a few others to go to a

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Speaker 5: restaurant together afterwards, as the newly weds will spend their

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Speaker 5: first married evening and night together. But this doesn't end there.

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Speaker 5: We've been told, actually only my husband was told on

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Speaker 5: a separate WhatsApp group that we were also required on

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Speaker 5: the Sunday for the actual wedding ceremony. What the plan

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Speaker 5: is to have eighty people joining them at a local

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Speaker 5: park in Paris, with no reservation or booking. Everyone has

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Speaker 5: to bring their own lunch and sandwiches, towels and drinks

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Speaker 5: for a picnic. They also want us to come well

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Speaker 5: dressed semi formal to take pictures together. Husband, who's really

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Speaker 5: good friends with the groom, has been asked this week, yes,

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Speaker 5: two weeks away from the wedding, to be the flower boy.

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Speaker 3: Cringe. We're all in our mid thirties. Listen, Oh, p listen.

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Speaker 3: I know there might be a cultural thing, but you

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Speaker 3: guys need to lighten up. You need to have fun.

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Speaker 4: This sounds so fun, like a picnic, and like in

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Speaker 4: semi formal might be uncomfortable, like sitting on a towel.

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Speaker 6: That far sounds a little uncomfy, right, But listen, you're

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Speaker 6: that's cringey for finding that cringey, Yeah, embarrassing, flaunt that

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Speaker 6: flower girl, yeah, booty down the aisle.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, and to prep a speech with the other boys,

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Speaker 5: and to come early to help set up. At this stage,

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Speaker 5: I'm just absolutely flabbergasted. If it were a budget issue,

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Speaker 5: I would one hundred percent understand. However, the bride and

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Speaker 5: groom are two of the most well off people I know.

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Speaker 5: They own multiple houses and never had any financial issues.

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Speaker 3: That is a little bit weird with them, so.

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Speaker 5: To me, this feels incredibly tacky to ask people to

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Speaker 5: fly over and spend a whole weekend with them in

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Speaker 5: one of the most expensive cities in Europe, to not

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Speaker 5: feed them or provide any sort of entertainment. I'm honestly

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Speaker 5: thinking of just giving them the bare minimum, like fifty

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Speaker 5: euros from the both of us, as traditionally the gift

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Speaker 5: is supposed to pay for your dinner, but at this wedding,

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Speaker 5: there's no dinner. My husband and his friends have tried

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Speaker 5: don't get their vision and that they want to do

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Speaker 3: At what cost.

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Speaker 5: I'm regretting having accepted this invite now, but I'll update

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Speaker 5: to let you know how it's actually gone. And we

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Speaker 5: have that update, I think, oh boy, listen my thoughts. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: sounds super fun. I think that you can do what

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Speaker 3: But maybe that's the case. That would have been cool,

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Speaker 5: Want, if maybe they have a connection to this park,

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Speaker 5: maybe they like theirs in the park or.

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Speaker 4: Something, yeah, something, And it's like, I feel like you're

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Speaker 4: don't know, like it seems weird. I feel like we've

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Speaker 4: read stories where people are like, oh my gosh, nothing

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Speaker 4: all this stuff because I'm like their sister or close

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Speaker 3: Right, But that doesn't seem like the case here.

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Speaker 5: Right, your husband has to go a little bit early

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Speaker 5: to set up the park, but what is it really

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Speaker 3: Like put the towels on the ground, right, lay out

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Speaker 4: Like you're saying you're regretting accepting the invite, but you

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Speaker 4: just have to show up and be happy for them.

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Speaker 3: You don't, like, it's not about you. They're not asking

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I do feel again like it's probably some

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Speaker 5: cultural differences, but I'm like in America, I feel like

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Speaker 4: This, Like, sure there are still like traditions for weddings,

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Speaker 4: but there it's more normal for people to try new things.

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Speaker 5: Right and like the groom's men as like a flower

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Speaker 3: So common lately. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So we have an update.

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Speaker 3: This is the day before.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we've received the following news still on the WhatsApp,

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Speaker 5: so we can't even reply. They asked if anyone could

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Speaker 5: because we jokingly texted him. He was never asked to

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Speaker 5: also bring either a change of clothes or accessories to

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Speaker 3: Dare to be fun. What I feel like their wedding is. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We were originally told there would be a shuttle between

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Speaker 5: They sent a video of the boat and honestly, it's

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Speaker 5: They confirmed they'll be bringing some snacks on Sunday for

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Speaker 5: the first to arrive, and the others were welcome to

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Speaker 5: bring their own food and drinks and share if they wish. Okay,

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Speaker 5: and we have another update, which I did see is

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Speaker 5: going to be about the wedding.

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Speaker 4: Okay, great, listen, okay, oh okay, okay, So I have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 4: I feel like after that little update, it's kind of like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's just like fun, you can chill out of you.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, like it does seem pretty unorganized,

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Speaker 5: Seems they're organized, and it's like they are so well off,

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Speaker 5: Like just provide the shuttle, like provide for the first

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Speaker 5: to arride, right, Just have food, like stick to your

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Speaker 5: like I'll have We'll have like small bites.

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Speaker 3: But bring them mail. That's fine, it's a picnic.

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Speaker 4: Also kind of funny for like the first to arrive,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's for the boat, which is like everybody has

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Speaker 5: to arrive before it leaves.

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Speaker 4: Right, and we're like pretty much getting there at the

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Speaker 4: same time. If like we're coming from one place to another,

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Speaker 4: ts uber goes first.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how pas can you ride a bike?

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Speaker 3: Right? Update two.

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Speaker 5: The wedding was just as expected, cheap and tacky. Thank

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Speaker 5: god we met there with friends we hadn't seen in

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Speaker 5: All the different activities were in complete, different locations within Paris,

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Speaker 5: Told to join them at town hall at ten am

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Speaker 5: they arrive, start to mingle, but don't seem rushed. We

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Speaker 5: then learn the wedding isn't starting until eleven thirty, but

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Speaker 5: Eleven twenty five. Were invited to enter the town hall.

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Speaker 5: Civil wedding starts eleven forty five. We're done and outside

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Speaker 5: we do group pictures, then are told we'll be walking

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Speaker 5: past three days, rendering the park muddy. All the ladies

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Speaker 5: and heels were struggling to stay Upright now, I will.

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Speaker 3: Also say, oh Pie, you knew you were going to

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Speaker 3: a park. Why did we wear hues wiparks. Usually grass

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Speaker 3: can't be having us The lettles ladies coulda thought about

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Speaker 5: Pictures with all the group last an hour in the

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Speaker 5: sweating away. One pm we're told we can go to

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Speaker 5: the boat. Originally there would be a shuttle, but this

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Speaker 5: never happened. The taxi takes us forty five minutes sixty quids.

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Speaker 5: One forty five pm we arrive at the boat somehow

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Speaker 5: There's no decoration and a bunch of personal items all around.

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Speaker 5: Some of the bride's families start to blow and attached balloons.

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Speaker 5: There are no tables or chairs, just one couch. The

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Speaker 3: Gonna do it right? Which one of you guys was

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Speaker 3: Oh oh no nice? Where was your fun and daring outfit?

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Speaker 5: Day two, all guests, which are eighty people including kids

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Speaker 5: And if I hear one more joke with I asked

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Speaker 5: Chatchy Bete to write my speech. No, no, I'm joking.

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Speaker 5: I'll unlive someone standing an hour and a half listening

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Speaker 5: He had a friend bring the rings in a little

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Speaker 3: To helium balloons. Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: He let that joke go for five minutes, oh, leaving

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Speaker 5: the bride panicking about their rings, saying it's just material

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, single chair. That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's like that set in Victorious where they're like stuck

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Speaker 5: We had a train to catch so didn't stay much longer,

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Speaker 5: Definitely won't be participating to their wedding fund or sending

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Speaker 3: Of schlubs, couple of slips.

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Speaker 5: So he says, our plan was to order from Uber

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Speaker 5: people invited. I've already flagged this to my husband and

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Speaker 5: so we'll see how it goes. Commenter two says, what

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Speaker 5: wedding in Paris in August with these arrangements? Oh heck no,

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Speaker 5: surely you can have an emergency come up before then.

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Speaker 5: I'm a Franciphile Australian and you could not pay me

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Speaker 5: You can't pay most Parisians to be in Paris in

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Okay, I'm still on the side of like,

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Speaker 3: I would do, but like whatever.

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Speaker 5: When you're like holding people to a ceremony and like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I feel like that's just the that's just

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Speaker 3: They were bad hosts for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 4: And then the fact that like they still had a

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Speaker 3: What was the ubers and the Tash's and.

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Speaker 4: The food right after you like told me that you

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Speaker 4: that was me taking care of it for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome. Some things like I think if.

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Speaker 5: You know that you're having a wedding in a park,

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Speaker 5: you don't wear heels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's on you, guys, But but you.

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Speaker 5: Know, I guess maybe they didn't think they were going

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Speaker 5: either way, and where was your fun and daring outfit? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: come on, but we have an update. About three weeks

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Speaker 5: just wanted to check if you didn't forget to send

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Speaker 3: We can't see your.

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Speaker 3: Winky face. Okay, No, now I'm way more on your guys' side.

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Speaker 3: You can't do so rude.

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Speaker 4: You can't do so you could be upset and like

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Speaker 3: Obviously in like normal.

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Speaker 4: Situations, not this one, but like, yeah, but you can't

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Speaker 3: Obviously we were pissed. What a rude thing to ask for.

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Speaker 5: Clearly making sure to not miss anything is an excuse

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Speaker 5: to say they figured out we hadn't participated. Also asking

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Speaker 5: this three weeks after etiquette says you have six months

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Speaker 5: to send the gift. We checked with our group that

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Speaker 3: Yikes.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to reply with all the things that went

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Speaker 5: and they all replied something like, ah, sorry. Between all

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Speaker 3: We haven't sent anything yet.

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Speaker 5: I feel like if they're gonna copypaste that text, you

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Speaker 5: and then it's kind of like, hey, we know what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like we've all talked about it. Yeah, for all friends,

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Speaker 3: that's fun, great idea. It might be a little passive, aggressive,

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Speaker 3: but well sure I like it. It's also like it's

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Speaker 3: but it's like it's also like not even alive anything.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: We spent so much money.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and still to this day we haven't given anything

442
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 5: to this sham of a wedding. Six plus months after

443
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 5: the wedding, we took a break from the couple and

444
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 5: ignored them. However, it looks like pretty much all their

445
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 5: friends and family did the same, so they started to

446
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 5: realize something was wrong. For example, he organized in November

447
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 5: his fortieth birthday, but no one that attended the wedding

448
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: went just before Christmas. The groom reached out to my

449
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 5: husband's friend group, him plus two other guys including the

450
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 5: best man, asking what was going on. Well, everyone kept

451
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 5: everything to themselves this whole time. Him asking why everyone

452
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 5: was icing them basically opened the can of worms they

453
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 5: probably didn't expect from that chat. A group call was

454
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 5: made where the three guys, including my husband, told him

455
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 5: all that went wrong at his wedding, why it was crap,

456
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 5: and why everyone was feeling like this and how disrespectful

457
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 5: the whole thing was. The groom was really shocked, but

458
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 5: kept pushing back, trying to gaslight the guys into thinking

459
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 5: it wasn't so bad that they all had a great time,

460
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 5: But the guys were prepared and told him everything we

461
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 5: all felt. That was a long call. By the end,

462
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 5: the groom was pretty defeated, but apologized for making us

463
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 5: feel this way. They all agreed to take time apart.

464
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: To heal the relationship.

465
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Speaker 5: After that, the groom and bride did the same with

466
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Speaker 5: their own families, thinking the friends had exaggerated and that

467
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 5: the families would be more supportive. But oh no, from

468
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 5: what we've heard, the chats with families were not good.

469
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: They both were extremely disappointed. The bride's family was even

470
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 5: ashamed by the events and had to ring several family

471
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 5: men members that had attended and given large checks and

472
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 5: apologize on their behalf.

473
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Speaker 3: Yikes.

474
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 5: So after all these conversations, they finally understood it was

475
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 5: a big deal and they had massively left up. The

476
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 5: groom reached back out to our group and this time

477
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 5: genuinely apologized and thanked them for still attending and trying

478
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Speaker 5: to have a good time. More private conversations have since happened,

479
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 5: and the groom has been trying to repair the relationships,

480
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 5: but everyone is still keeping them at arm's length and

481
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 5: their conversations are now very superficial. However, during Christmas, the

482
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 5: couple were revealed they were pregnant and quite far along.

483
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 5: I think she already may have been two to three

484
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 5: months pregnant at the wedding, but she's very petite and

485
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 5: never really drank booze, so we didn't notice. The baby

486
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 5: will arrive at the end of January. Wow, I mean

487
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 5: good that you guys called them out and they like realized, yeah,

488
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 5: because that is a crazy text descent asking about the

489
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 5: money and stuff totally.

490
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: It's just so way out of line because it's like

491
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 4: for any sort of gift or contribution like that, it's

492
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: like it's it's expected because of tradition.

493
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 3: And stuff like that, but you technically, like.

494
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 5: You can't write, and like what they said at the beginning,

495
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 5: it's expected typically to cover the cost of your meal.

496
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you did trade and feed you they didn't.

497
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: They said bring your own like sandwich, right, it said

498
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 4: bring bring your lunchible to the picnic and then uber.

499
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: Over and here's your one cherry in one Aprica.

500
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, passing it out like it's communion, right here's yeah.

501
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: Wow, Oh my gosh.

502
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I think I'm so glad that they're not

503
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: the only one that yeah, like is mad about this,

504
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: and they're they're understanding from everyone telling them that they

505
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 4: have to, Like I'm finally understanding it.

506
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh cool.

507
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 5: We congratulated them, asked a few questions, and that was it.

508
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: But then the first thing the groom did is send

509
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 5: the baby registry list.

510
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: Into the group.

511
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 5: My gosh, without any context or message like no, we'd

512
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: be super grateful if you could participate with all the

513
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 5: items being super expensive, which pissed off the group once again,

514
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 5: and one of them bluntly said, f off, groom, are

515
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 5: you gonna ask us for money every time we talk?

516
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 5: Can't you effing read a room and learn from your mistakes?

517
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

518
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 5: So once again people got really annoyed, thinking he never

519
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 5: learned a thing. So now we're not planning to participate

520
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 5: in the gift registry. However, once the baby is born,

521
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 5: we'll send a gift of our own choosing, because that's

522
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 5: not the baby's fault. His parents are poopeds.

523
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: So that's it.

524
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 5: Hope you enjoyed that update, and hopefully they'll now be

525
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 5: too busy with the baby to bother us, And that's

526
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 5: the end of that story.

527
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: That is so crazy.

528
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 4: They're like just getting married and just having kids just

529
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 4: so they could get That's what it feels like.

530
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: We didn't get the wedding gifts. We'll get them with

531
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: the baby. Yeah. I just watched this, and then I

532
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 3: bet you they're not even pregnant. Oh my god, that'd

533
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: be a whole other thing.

534
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: But wow, yeah, you I was very yeah, yeah, skeptical

535
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: at first.

536
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 5: Ope, but they're crazy. Yeah, and that's the end of

537
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: this story. We're going to go to the next one.

538
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.

539
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,240
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541
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Speaker 4: My friend accused me of stealing their dog after they

542
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Speaker 4: abandoned it.

543
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Speaker 3: That's your dog now.

544
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: I thirty one female, live overseas with my wife KP.

545
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: Because of the military. For a while, we lived with

546
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Speaker 4: another married couple, Francis thirty five female and Teeth thirty

547
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: four female.

548
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: We were all really close, like chosen family. We did

549
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: everything together, lived together, traveled together.

550
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: It felt like an adult best friend dream situation, except over.

551
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: Time it got weird.

552
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Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from certain salts two thousand

553
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Speaker 4: go to the r slash Okay storry time separated its

555
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Speaker 4: and I'm Angie.

556
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. Goofully.

557
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: But we don't have all the answers.

558
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: We're just gonna guess what we would do in the situation.

559
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: So let us know what you would do in the comments.

560
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: So Opie says, Logistically, we had two vehicles belonging to

561
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: KP and Meat. I allowed Tea and Francis to drive

562
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: my car. They just had to drop me off and

563
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: pick me up from work when they needed it. Each

564
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: couple had a bedroom and a bathroom. We also had

565
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: four shared living spaces, the kitchen, landing slash, office area,

566
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 4: loft in the living room. They also brought a dog,

567
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: which was a compromise as we did not want any pets.

568
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: All of us worked, except for Tea. I worked full.

569
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: Time, went to full time, went to school full time,

570
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: and still handled most of the cooking, groceries and kitchen cleaning.

571
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: When I said I was exhausted and needed a break,

572
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: everyone says.

573
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: You don't have to do everything. But when I actually stopped,

574
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: no one stepped up.

575
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: Meals stopped, no one grocery shopped, and somehow I was

576
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: the bad guy for being distant.

577
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: Keep in mind this was only a two week period.

578
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: I noticed Tea and Francis started acting pretty passive aggressively.

579
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: They began pulling away emotionally, with short responses, no eye contact,

580
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: and avoiding conversation. I approached them to see what the

581
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: issue was because it was getting tense in the house.

582
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: Tea told me that she was upset because I hurt

583
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: Francis when I asked for clarity. She told me she'd

584
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: save that for Frances to tell. Two days later, I

585
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: spoke to Francis. This was what she wrote as her issue.

586
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: France's message, Well, my feelings have been hurt, and I

587
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: know I've played a part in that by not being

588
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: clear about what I needed. Still, I think it's worth

589
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: talking about where we are and how we move forward.

590
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: I'm writing all this because I don't want to fumble

591
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: through it in front of the class. If I don't

592
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: write it out, I'll probably get overwhelmed, either by your

593
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: emotions or mine and forget what I actually want to say.

594
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 4: This just helps me lay everything out fully. It feels

595
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: like you wanted a gym partner for motivation, but now

596
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 4: most days you're just confirming that I don't want to go,

597
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: and it seems like you've jumped at the chances to

598
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: go with other people instead. It feels like you've stopped

599
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: actively coordinating with me. I don't think you check the

600
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: calendar anymore, and you're not around when I get home,

601
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: so we don't even talk face to face about scheduling.

602
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: Side notes. I know you're usually upstairs, but I never

603
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: know if you're sleeping, doing schoolwork or just decompressing. I've

604
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: asked KP a couple of times and she said, you're

605
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: not busy, but then I'd come up and find you asleep,

606
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: so I'm not going to keep doing that. Also, okay,

607
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: sending me in text saying we haven't seen each other

608
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 4: in a while without actually making the effort to see

609
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: me is wild work. If you'd rather go to the gym, eat, hike,

610
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: or drink with other people, that's totally fine. Just let

611
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: me know so I'm not trying to coordinate something that's

612
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: not mutual. And if you want to add people to

613
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: our sessions, just give me the curt of a heads up.

614
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: The time you spend coordinating with them could have been

615
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: spent coordinating with me too. I also want to say

616
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: I've noticed you making time and effort for our outings

617
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: with other friends, and I respect that, but when it

618
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: comes to us, it feels like we only see each

619
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: other in the car or at the gym, nothing else.

620
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: I won't speculate as to why that is, but it

621
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: makes me feel unimportant, like maybe I'm just an aries

622
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 4: that you've collected, or maybe I'm just not new and

623
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 4: shiny anymore. And yeah, that sucks to realize. But if

624
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: that's really where we are now, I'd rather just know

625
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: h I'm not going to tell you can't hang out

626
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 4: with other people.

627
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: You're an adult. You don't have to sneak around with them.

628
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: It's not hard to notice.

629
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Speaker 4: You don't pack lunches anymore, and you either get off

630
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: the phone or put them on hold to go straight

631
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: upstairs to finish talking.

632
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: It just feels weird and icky. Is there a thrill

633
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 3: or something? This is crazy as if it's like cheating,

634
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: is right? A thrilled find your new and shiny new

635
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: friends you enjoy talking to your friends. I thought I

636
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: was your friend, come on.

637
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: What hurt most was realizing that you're my only friend

638
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: here and it seems like you found others so easily,

639
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: especially after you've said yourself how much you dislike.

640
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: Hanging out with military people. I felt jealous.

641
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: I started sacrificing sleep just to spend more time with you.

642
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to do that anymore. I will

643
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 4: take responsibility for my part, and I'm working on being

644
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: more independent from you going forward. I'm just going to

645
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: be clear about what I need from this friendship, things

646
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: like follow through, respect for my time, and honest communication,

647
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 4: and I hope you'll continue to respect where I'm coming from.

648
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: And there's an edit to this text. I didn't feel

649
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: like editing the above message again, so effitt. What hurts

650
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: the most is being lied to. I feel like I'm

651
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: I've played the fool and I was just a plaything.

652
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: You threw all your energy into us when we first met.

653
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: Now I can't help but wonder if this is how

654
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: your other friends at the time felt. I felt like

655
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: we could be a family and we could make living

656
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: together actually work. Don't pretend to be family and then

657
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: treat me like just a roommate. Why parade us around

658
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: to people as family?

659
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: Why hacked so weird about it? Are you bored?

660
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: What's so hard about being honest, especially when you prefer directness?

661
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: Whatever the reason is, which I'll give you space to answer.

662
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: I don't want you to change. Keep the same energy,

663
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: because changing now wouldn't be genuine.

664
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: It can't be.

665
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: And for the last time, one, do not think for me. Two,

666
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: I am not my wife. We are separate entities. Oh

667
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 4: and that's the end of the text.

668
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 7: Okay, there's still more to the story, but that was

669
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 7: so much. Oh my god, I bet that was one

670
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 7: that you had to like tap on to rere yeah,

671
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 7: because that was long.

672
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: Oh my god, and a lot of nothing, A whole

673
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: lot of nothing, a lot of.

674
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: Like, Okay, your insecurities are really showing that you haven't made.

675
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: Friends rights, that's all it is.

676
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is so crazy. It's like you're super busy

677
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: and you're not making time for me. I feel like

678
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 4: I'm not being valued. But also, at this point, nothing

679
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: you can do is gonna fix it. So don't even

680
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: try to make more time with me, even though earlier

681
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: she definitely was saying something about making more time with me.

682
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: So insane, But there is a little bit more to

683
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: the story. When I tell you, I sat there stunned

684
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 4: reading that novel. It went from I miss our friendship

685
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 4: to your lying and sneaking around in one paragraph. Yeah again,

686
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 4: as if they're cheating, right, crazy, I responded, calmly, apologize

687
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: for any hurt.

688
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: I told your I understood, But she just said that

689
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: she won a distance. You can't. You can't give us

690
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: her whole text and not give us your response.

691
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: Text me right, I need, I need all I need,

692
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 4: word for word, copy and pasteen shots right. The same

693
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: response he gave a day prior after that communication basically

694
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: disappeared or was some repetition of similar themes. Then they

695
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: started preparing to move out. They decided to get a

696
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: place three minutes away from us. They have a dog, Cass,

697
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 4: who was legally registered under my name because of VET

698
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 4: access on my base. I'm military affiliated. When they moved out,

699
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: we reminded them multiple times that Casts needed to be

700
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: officially transferred to their ownership since they'd be taking him

701
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 4: with them. The VET even sent them the transfer paperwork.

702
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: We followed up by phone, text and emails several times

703
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: over the course of a full month. They never responded

704
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: to any of it. After six weeks, I let them

705
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: know I would file a police report if they didn't

706
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 4: legally sign for him. This is the only time I

707
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 4: got a response. They sent a text stating that they

708
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: were traveling abroad and couldn't sign the paperwork. They then said, no,

709
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: need to file a report as his owners, you can

710
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 4: pick Casts up at the boarding facility, so we did.

711
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: The facility was one and a half hours away. We

712
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: assumed that that was their way of saying they couldn't

713
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: care for him anymore, but instead of communicating, they ignored

714
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 4: every follow up, and then sent a German lawyer letter

715
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: accusing us of stealing the dog. The lawyer demanded we

716
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: return cast by a Lane or face legal action, even

717
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: though one he's legally registered under our names. Two they

718
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: told us to pick him up, uh, and three they

719
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 4: ignored every opportunity to make the ownership official. To top

720
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: it off, they registered him with a civilian database the

721
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: day after we retrieved him, which doesn't require proof of ownership,

722
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: just a microchip number.

723
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's wild. I will say, how long was it

724
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: that the dog was in your care? Like, I don't

725
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 5: think they should have sent a lawyer after you, right,

726
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 5: but can we just return the dog and move on?

727
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it was like six weeks, maybe.

728
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 5: Six weeks for the whole thing, though. Yeah, I don't

729
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 5: think they got the dog until the end of that. Yeah,

730
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: I guess I did, depending on if they picked up

731
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: or dropped off the dog, because I didn't know which

732
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 5: way that went.

733
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know what that was either.

734
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 4: I'm assuming he meant picked up, but I also imagined

735
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: the dog to just be with them anyway. I was like,

736
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: where did they go? But but maybe they were. It

737
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: was like from a daycare type thing. Yeah, like that's

738
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 4: the what's it called the facility?

739
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 5: Because I'm kind of like, okay, there's legal action. If

740
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 5: this dog really hasn't been with you that long, sure

741
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 5: we can make a deal out of it. We can

742
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: try to get this dog's custody. If we're worried about

743
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: the safety of this dog, maybe it would be a

744
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 5: better thing to do and to follow through.

745
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: But if they took fine care of the dog when

746
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: they have the dog, then it's kind of like, just

747
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 3: give them their dog back.

748
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, save the headache. There's a little bit

749
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 4: more to the story though. Fast forward two months later,

750
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: they filed a report with the MP who have reached

751
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 4: out to me and I gave my statement. They told

752
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: me it was dumb and it's clear we own the

753
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 4: dogp this entire time. All they had to do was

754
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: sign a paper saying he's theirs, which they have refused.

755
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 4: Now that's not even an option, and we've found a

756
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: few people interested.

757
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: In purchasing him from US. Cas is safe, healthy and loved.

758
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 4: We've paid every vet bill and taken care of him

759
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: since they left him behind. I don't even know how

760
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: we got here from best friends basically family to legal threats,

761
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: we opened our home and hearts to them, and all

762
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: we got in return was the manipulation, avoidance, and an

763
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: abandoned dog. So, Reddit, am I the a hole for

764
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: keeping the dog my ex friends ignored, abandoned and then

765
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: tried to weaponize against me?

766
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: What do you think?

767
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 5: No, because I'm also remembering the beginning of this story

768
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: when they said that they literally did nothing to take

769
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 5: care of themselves or the house. So I'm sure that

770
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: dog wasn't taking care of. Sure, I don't like that

771
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: you sold the dog for Monney, but that's my first

772
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 5: andal opinion and has nothing to do with you or

773
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 5: this story.

774
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm assuming it was just like, well, someone

775
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 4: else just adopted the dog, and.

776
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: It was the word purchased.

777
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like money, just give it, give it

778
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: to somebody, give it to a loving home. I get you,

779
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 5: but that's neither here nor there. Maybe maybe you didn't

780
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: even do that.

781
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 4: Right, different conversation. Yeah, but but yeah, that's that talks, dude.

782
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 5: I'm glad that it was so easily in your favor though,

783
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 5: to just be like we literally have the paper, like

784
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 5: we've sent them the paperwork.

785
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: We are the legal owners. We've given them every chance

786
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: in the world and they're like, oh yeah to your dog.

787
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

788
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: Honestly, I know, I'm so glad that turned out well.

789
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 4: But God, but that is the end of that story.

790
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: My best friend man did I break up with my

791
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: boyfriend but won't tell me why.

792
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: I just don't like him.

793
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: My boyfriend will call him five male and I twenty

794
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: five female. Have been together for three years. Before we dated,

795
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: we used to be coworkers is at a retail store

796
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: when we were both seventeen. The first thing I noticed

797
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: about Blake when we met was that he never smiled

798
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: or showed any emotion. He always had a serious, blank

799
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: look on his face. Even when customers are our coworkers

800
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: would try to joke with him, he never cracked a

801
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: smile or laughed, which would make it awkward for them.

802
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user gator Tater five

803
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: thousand and I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, and we're here to

804
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: give you a little good advice. Goofly, we don't have

805
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: all the answers. We only know what we would do,

806
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: So if you would do something different, just let us

807
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: know in the comments, and op says However, Blake has

808
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: always been respectful to those around him and never once

809
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 2: raised his voice. Our coworkers always thought Blake was weird

810
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: and warned me to avoid him. However, despite all that,

811
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Blake and I ended up getting along great and becoming

812
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: good friends. Over the years, Blake and I became really close,

813
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: and I would occasionally see him smile or laugh. On

814
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: my twenty second birthday, which is on Valentine's, Blake had

815
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: asked me to come over to his house and said

816
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: it was serious. When I got there, it was full

817
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: of decorations and flowers, and Blake was dressed nicely. He

818
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: gave a long speech about how much our friendship meant

819
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: to him and asked if I wanted to be his girlfriend.

820
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: It was the first time I had seen Blake so vulnerable.

821
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: I of course said yes, and we had been a

822
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: happy couple since then. Now onto the issue. My best friend,

823
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: let's call her Sarah, twenty six female, and I have

824
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: been friends since we were in the fifth grade. Sarah

825
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: and I were each other's partners in crime. She had

826
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: never met Blake before, as by the time we graduated

827
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: high school, she had moved away to stay with her

828
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: dad in another city. I of course talked about him

829
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: and showed pictures of him and me together when we

830
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: became closer and started dating. However, she once stated how

831
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: she found it weird that he never was really smiling

832
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: or seemed happy when he was with me, and that

833
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be dating someone who doesn't want to be

834
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: happy around me. I brushed it off and just assured

835
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: her that's how he is and that he's actually a

836
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: sweet guy. She had recently come back to our city

837
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: and wanted the three of us to meet together. We

838
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: decided to meet at a restaurant. When we got there,

839
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Sarah and I ran at each other and squealed like

840
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: little girls, while Blake just stood and watched us. When

841
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: Sarah looked at Blake, I noticed her expression immediately changed,

842
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: and she awkwardly smiled and shook his hand and only

843
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: said hi to him. Blake just nonchalantly said it was

844
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: good to meet her. She then went back to talking

845
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: to me, completely ignoring Blake. When we got our menus,

846
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: Blake couldn't find a meal he would enjoy and just

847
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: said he would be fine with a small appetizer. Sarah

848
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: unexpectedly said, why is nothing here good? Enough for you.

849
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Why would you read it come here if you weren't

850
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: going to get anything. Then she tried to say it

851
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: like it was a joke, but any person can tell

852
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: it was obviously not. I then defended Blake, claiming he

853
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: could have one whatever he liked and it wasn't a

854
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: big deal. Sarah then dropped it at that. Throughout our dinner,

855
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: Sarah was ignoring Blake and was only trying to talk

856
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: to me. Blake just stayed silent and watched us. When

857
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: she did include him, she would seemingly only ask him

858
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: questions that would only need a one word answer, and

859
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: when he did answer, she would just give him side

860
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: eyes or just say okay then uh. At one point,

861
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: she excused herself to the bathroom, and when she left,

862
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: I asked Blake if he was okay, and he assured

863
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: me he was and just wanted me to catch up

864
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: with my friend. After dinner, the three of us went

865
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: for a walk. We then came across a person walking

866
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: a small puppy, and Sarah and I could and we're

867
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: giggling at how cute the puppy was. Blake was just

868
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: standing watching us fawn over the puppy. Once the dog

869
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: owner left. Sarah turned to Blake and she immediately became

870
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: angry and asked, how the f could you not even

871
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: smile for a puppy? Are you seriously that soulless? I

872
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: was immediately shocked my friend's sudden change of tone and

873
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: was about to say something, but Blake just shrugged and

874
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: walked away, continuing our walk. I asked her what her

875
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: problem was, and she immediately apologized and said she didn't

876
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: mean to yell. Our walk then became awkward. I then

877
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: had to use the bathroom and we found a nearby store.

878
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: I went in, and Blake and Sarah waited for me outside.

879
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: When I came back, I found Sarah hysterically yelling at Blake.

880
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: I immediately ran over to them and asked what the

881
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: heck was going on. Sarah was in hysterics, but she

882
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: kept yelling It's not going to happen. I will never

883
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: let this happen. I asked her what she was talking about,

884
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: but all she said was Blake was a sociopath and

885
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 2: demanded I break up with him. I looked at Blake,

886
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: who was just as shocked as I was. I kept

887
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: trying to ask the both of them what had happened,

888
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: but neither would answer me. People started staring, and I

889
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: desperately tried to calm Sarah down. Eventually, I told Blake

890
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: to walk back to the car so we could go

891
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: home home and I would call an uber for Sarah.

892
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: When we were alone, I was trying to get Sarah

893
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: to tell me what had happened, but she just stayed silent.

894
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: Blake came back to pick me up, and Sarah was

895
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: just giving him the evil eye. Thankfully, Sarah's uber came

896
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: and took her back to her hotel. Our car ride

897
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: home was awkwardly silent, but as soon as we got home,

898
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: I demanded to know what happened between him and Sarah.

899
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: Blake just stayed silent. I'm so annoyed with both of them.

900
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, why is he being silent?

901
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: Because that's that's his whole mo. He missed cool, calm,

902
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: and what happened? Okay. Blake said he couldn't say what happened,

903
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: but that he was so sorry. I asked him to

904
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: please just say what happened. He only said he swore

905
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: he didn't do anything bad, but that he simply just

906
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: couldn't say what happened. I then told him I was

907
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: going to sleep in the guest bedroom as I just

908
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: couldn't handle everything that was happening. He said he understood

909
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 2: and told me he loved me and went to our room.

910
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: An hour ago, I got a text from Sarah. I

911
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: will copy and paste it here. Sarah, I'm really sorry

912
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: about what happened tonight, but please listen to me. You

913
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: need to break up with Blake. He's a literal sociopath

914
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: who is only using you. He doesn't deserve you. I'm

915
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: telling you this because I love you and want to

916
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: protect you. Please break up with him. I haven't responded

917
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: to her text Reddit. I don't know what to do.

918
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what caused such a huge fight that

919
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: neither can tell me about. Any advice on how I

920
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: can get the truth would be helpful, and there is

921
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: an update. How would we get the truth? Maybe you

922
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: go get the security footage from outside of the spot

923
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: where you used the rest room.

924
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 8: I think I need everyone in the comments to be like,

925
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 8: you don't need the truth yet, You're probably gonna find

926
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 8: the truth out soon.

927
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: Maybe just hold off, like what is like what.

928
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna propose now? And now I'm like,

929
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 8: don't no one tell her, no one tell her, just

930
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 8: be like I think everything's fine, and maybe also cut

931
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 8: your friend's Sarah off cause she's crazy.

932
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one thing to be like, oh, yeah,

933
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: well your your boyfriend like doesn't smile and like laugh,

934
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: like does he even like you? But it's another thing

935
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 2: to then be like, oh, like I'm in I'm meeting him,

936
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: getting to know him. Yeah, and every single thing I'm

937
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: doing is like to try to antagonize him.

938
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

939
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: It's weird, you know, because it's on the surface when

940
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: you don't know somebody and you hear that, it's like, oh,

941
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: what's are they like? Are they like, are they like cool?

942
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: Or oh?

943
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 8: He talked about it though if before she met him,

944
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 8: she was like that he's a psychopath, you know, Like

945
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 8: was be like, yeah, he never like smiles or anything,

946
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 8: but I like him.

947
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 2: But anyway. There is an update. The night I made

948
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: this post, I had some time to sit and think

949
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: about everything that happened. I wanted to hear Blake out first,

950
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: so I decided not to read Sarah's messages. Once Blake

951
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: came home, I asked if we could talk, to which

952
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: he ag. I sat him down and started by apologizing

953
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: for walking away from him the night before and for

954
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: not defending him more during the hangout. I assured him

955
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: I love and trust him deeply. Eventually, Blake told me

956
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: what happened. Some of you guessed it right. Blake was

957
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: planning on proposing to me when I left. He confided

958
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: in Sarah that he was planning to propose to me

959
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: and asked if she could help him choose a ring.

960
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: Blake then said Sarah asked if he was being serious,

961
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: and when he said he was, she then started screaming

962
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: and lashing out at him. She screamed at him that

963
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: this engagement will never happen. You don't deserve her, and

964
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: that's when I came outside. I was beyond shocked. I

965
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: then hugged him and asked if that was the reason

966
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: he didn't want to tell me. Blake said yes, because

967
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: he didn't want to ruin the surprise. I told him

968
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: it wasn't causing us any problems and that I love

969
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: him even more now. We both then hugged it out

970
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: and made up. Blake then asked what Sarah had said

971
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: about the situation. I admitted to him that I didn't

972
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: read anything she had said. After a while, I finally

973
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: turned on my phone, and I honestly wished that I didn't.

974
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: Sarah had got our friends, my sister, and my aunt involved,

975
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 2: and even involved my estrange dad, which was a real

976
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: low blow for contact. My dad and I are no

977
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: longer on speaking terms due to an incident with my

978
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: former stepmom. After finally reading my family and friends messages,

979
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: it sums up that Sarah had told them I'm with

980
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: a sociopath and that I'm refusing to leave him even

981
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: when she tried to help. So now the people who

982
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: once knew the sweet, loving Blake think he is a

983
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: crazy person and are begging me to leave him. I

984
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: had spent the whole night trying to clear the air

985
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: with everyone except my dad. Unfortunately, my aunt and some

986
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: of my friends are still agreeing with Sarah. There were

987
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: so many texts from Sarah, but it ranged from her

988
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: begging me to answer her, to her being mad that

989
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: I was taking Blake's side and not hers, to her

990
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: apologizing for involving my dad but saying it was for

991
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: my own good. I had only sent her one text.

992
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: I don't understand how you expect me to take your

993
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: side when you never told me why you said what

994
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: you said. Blake had already told me what happened, and

995
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what your side is. I can't

996
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 2: believe you having lied to our friends and my family,

997
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: and for you to involve my dad. How the F

998
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: do you even have his number? Above all, you disrespected

999
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: my relationship and my boyfriend. F you. I have since

1000
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: blocked her. Not a great update, but Blake and I

1001
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: are doing okay. He has been very understanding and patient

1002
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: throughout all of this. And there is a second update.

1003
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Is Blake actually a sociopath?

1004
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: Is he Sussy Beth? Or is he just proposing?

1005
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: Or is he secretly like does he already have a

1006
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: body double? He has a secret twin nobody else knows about,

1007
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: and they both play the same character.

1008
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: The proposal has already started.

1009
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: While Blake won is having a fight with Sarah outside

1010
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: the store, Blake two is actively planning the proposal. Yeah,

1011
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 2: it's but it's the proposal. It's the proposal, the proposed stige, the.

1012
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 8: Proposed stige sarrying Sandra Bullock and Christian Reynolds.

1013
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: Perfect. That's a five star movie right there.

1014
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: Five star movie from five star people. I mean number two. Hey,

1015
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: I'm back again. After my last update, Blake and I

1016
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: had a discussion regarding the issue with my family and friends.

1017
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: I invited my sister over and asked her what exactly

1018
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: Sarah had said to her about Blake and me. My

1019
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 2: sister told me that Sarah had told her that while

1020
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: we were hanging out, Blake had been acting cold and

1021
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: rude towards me. She claimed he was ignoring me and

1022
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: lashed out when I tried to talk to him. She

1023
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: then supposedly tried to tell me he was acting toxic

1024
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: towards me and that I should leave, to which I

1025
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: supposedly refused and told her to mind her own effing business.

1026
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: Then that's when I left. Blake had told her that

1027
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: he was going to marry me, and that's when she

1028
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: lashed out. So other than the last part, she told

1029
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: a whole, big, fat lie. After some confirmation from other friends,

1030
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: it was clear that's the story she told. I was pissed,

1031
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: and so was Blake, especially since his proposal was ruined.

1032
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 2: Some commenters and even my sister suggested I get everyone

1033
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: who was told this lie to meet with me and

1034
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: clear the air. So we decided to do that. I

1035
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: had made a group chat of those that had contacted

1036
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: me about Blake besides my dad, and told them that

1037
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: I needed to have a face to face talk with

1038
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: them all. We all mutually agreed to meet on Monday night.

1039
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: Come Monday night, after everyone sat down, I started off

1040
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: by saying how amusing it was how they all instantly

1041
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: believed Sarah over me, and how angry and disappointed I

1042
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: was in them. I then told the real story of

1043
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: what happened. I spared no detail, then made it crystal

1044
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: clear that Blake was a good boyfriend and still the

1045
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: same good, caring person that they met. I ended by

1046
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: stating that anyone who tries to tell me to break

1047
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: up with Blake again or call him any names will

1048
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: be cut off. Thankfully, they all finally believe me and

1049
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: have apologized to Blake for how they acted and apologized

1050
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: to me for automatically believing Sarah. I thought that would

1051
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: be the end of it. I was able to convince

1052
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: everyone that Sarah was lying. I had Sarah and my

1053
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: dad blocked, and Blake and I were as happy as ever.

1054
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: But I spoke too soon. On Thursday, while I was

1055
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 2: at work, I got a notice from our security team

1056
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: telling me my girlfriend was here to see me. I

1057
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: obviously knew who it was. However, I went down to

1058
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: see her anyway, as I feared if I didn't go

1059
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: see her, she would lash out like how she did

1060
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: with Blake. When I saw her, she looked happy to

1061
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: see me, but I was pissed. I told her she

1062
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: needed to leave and never try to come near me

1063
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: and not dare to go near Blake or I was

1064
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: going to call the police. She started her crocodile tears

1065
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: and told me that this was the only way to

1066
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: talk to me. She told me after I told everyone

1067
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: the real story, they all got mad at her for lying,

1068
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: and most of our mutual friends cut her off.

1069
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 8: Who well, the consequences of your own actions.

1070
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: No, she's literally meeting up to be like, dude, you

1071
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: don't understand.

1072
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 9: I had consequences for the vies that I told about you,

1073
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 9: and it's not fair. And it's like, once you told

1074
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 9: everyone the truth, now people don't treat me the same

1075
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 9: way because they know I'm a liar. Why why, why,

1076
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 9: why were you so mean to me to do that?

1077
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: Stop it? I told her she deserved it for trying

1078
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: to ruin my relationship. She started to apologize and told

1079
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: me she didn't want to lose me, and that she

1080
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: wanted to explain herself. At that point, I was already

1081
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: scared and embarrassed. As she started getting loud, I told

1082
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: her she had her chances to tell me her side. Instead,

1083
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: she chose to spread a lie and try to turn

1084
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: everyone against Blake. I gave her one last warning to

1085
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: leave or I would have security make her leave. Surprisingly,

1086
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: she did leave. I was on edge the rest of

1087
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: my shift. Then I kept getting messages from a random

1088
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: number calling me a stupid witch and that they hated me.

1089
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: I wonder who that is.

1090
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 8: They're like, you'll never guess who I am, but you're

1091
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 8: stupid and I hate you.

1092
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're dumb.

1093
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: OPI continues that my strong guess was my father, but

1094
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 2: every time I blocked the number, one new one would

1095
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: text me.

1096
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: See, I just assumed that was Sarah.

1097
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also assumed that that would be Sarah.

1098
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: Why would that be your father?

1099
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: Really bad dad?

1100
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 8: Territory for sure, But like, I don't know, it seems

1101
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 8: like the seems like the most likely the.

1102
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: Planets Earah, the moon and the sun aligned. Yeah. After

1103
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: I got home, Blake was waiting for me and asked

1104
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: what was wrong I confided in him what happened. I

1105
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: don't know why I became so emotional, but I started

1106
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: to cry. I had a small fear all this would

1107
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: make Blake break up with me. He reassured me that

1108
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 2: was never going to happen, and that I was his girl,

1109
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: and that he smiled on the inside the night I

1110
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: was defending him to my friends and aunt. And we

1111
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: are heading towards the end of the story here. Yeah,

1112
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: I think you did the right thing. I think you

1113
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 2: blocked Sarah. You got all the relevant parties.

1114
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, who were lied to?

1115
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh excuse me, who were lied to? And then and

1116
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: that's why you set the record straight and you and

1117
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: Blake are doing just fine.

1118
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 8: I think you should tell security or whoever said that

1119
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 8: your girlfriend was here though, that she's not your girlfriend

1120
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 8: because you went down and greeted her. So maybe they

1121
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 8: still think that and the letter up next time, So

1122
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 8: just be like, that's not my girlfriend, by the way.

1123
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: And definitely clarify that. I'd be like, yeah, by the way,

1124
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: that is that is.

1125
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: My enemy, That is my mortal enemy.

1126
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: That is not a friend. She is a creature of

1127
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: the night, from a lagoon of some kind.

1128
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 3: Perhaps black.

1129
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 2: I've been getting a lot of unknown calls and texts.

1130
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: I've taken screenshots of all of them before blocking, as

1131
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: I'll probably need to file a police report. My sister

1132
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: and some of my friends suggested I meet with Sarah

1133
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: and have her admit everything she's done and even finally

1134
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: get her side of the story. Blake told me to

1135
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: choose whatever I feel safe with. After talking and thinking

1136
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: about it with Blake, I've decided to go with meeting her.

1137
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: I had unblocked her and told her I was open

1138
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: to hearing her out now on the condition we meet

1139
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: at a public place, and she told me the full truth.

1140
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: I had sent that message a few hours ago and

1141
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: she hasn't responded, and that was the end of that story.

1142
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 3: Hey, it's John here.

1143
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories.

1144
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: Put a quick three minute ad break from her sponsors

1145
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: that keep the show going.

1146
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 8: My boyfriend's friends gave him a gift that crossed the line,

1147
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 8: so I expose them. Oh, My boyfriend thirty one minute

1148
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 8: and two of his friends, Carl twenty five mail and

1149
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 8: Jasper thirty one mail, went on a trip to Mexico.

1150
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 8: While there, his friend Carl decided to gift my boyfriend

1151
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 8: and Jasper. My boyfriend felt obligated to sleep with her

1152
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 8: and did. But this post isn't about what my boyfriend did.

1153
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 8: That's something I'm trying to figure out myself in therapy.

1154
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 8: By the way, this comes from Spicy Worker Explosion, and

1155
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 8: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

1156
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 8: the r slash somewhere. But we got the story from OPI.

1157
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 8: So some backstory on Carl and Jasper. They're both pretty

1158
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 8: crappy people. Jasper is married, but he and his wife

1159
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 8: are non monogamous. Cool, none of my business. However, before

1160
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 8: they got married, Jasper had a year long affair with

1161
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 8: one of his wife's enemies. Thanks She found out about

1162
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 8: a separate affair a couple of months before their wedding,

1163
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 8: but decided to stay. She still didn't know about the

1164
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 8: affair with her enemy. My understanding is that they are

1165
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 8: very happy together, are polly and have a third and

1166
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 8: are in the process of trying to buy a house

1167
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 8: and get pregnant. Jasper's wife gave him a free pass

1168
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 8: to do whatever he wanted on this vacation.

1169
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: Carl, on the other hand.

1170
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 8: Has been cheating on his girlfriend since day one. He

1171
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 8: crashed with my boyfriend a couple of nights when he

1172
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 8: came to town and brought home a girl not his girlfriend,

1173
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 8: and had spicy sleet with her. He says he did

1174
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 8: it because his girlfriend was just starting fights out of nowhere.

1175
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 8: He was only staying with her because she was watching

1176
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 8: his house and dog while he was out of town,

1177
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 8: and then he was going to break up with her

1178
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 8: as soon as he got back home.

1179
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: I was eight months.

1180
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 8: Ago and they are still together. He's still cheating every

1181
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 8: chance that he gets. He planned this Mexico trip as

1182
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 8: a vacation to screw as many girls as he could.

1183
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 8: I met his girlfriend once, and once there was a

1184
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 8: face to the cheating, I started feeling guilty. However, out

1185
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 8: of loyalty to my boyfriend, I kept my mouth shut.

1186
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 8: So after I found out about the cheating, I told

1187
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 8: my boyfriend that I no longer felt any sense of

1188
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 8: loyalty to his friend with Carl, and I was going

1189
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 8: to tell his girlfriend about everything that I knew. He

1190
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 8: not because of his relationship with Carl, but because Carl's

1191
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 8: girlfriend knows about the affair with Jasper's wife's enemy. Jasper

1192
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 8: is my boyfriend's best friend, and my boyfriend would get

1193
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 8: blamed for the end of his marriage. I told him

1194
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 8: I was probably.

1195
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: Gonna do it anyway.

1196
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 8: If Jasper didn't want his marriage to end, he shouldn't

1197
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 8: have done what he did. I told the girlfriend, and

1198
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 8: everything blew up. Carl's girlfriend reached out to Jasper's wife

1199
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 8: and told her everything ben Carl, and Jasper were attempting

1200
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 8: to point fingers at anybody but themselves. My boyfriend was

1201
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 8: incredibly angry at me and told me that I just

1202
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 8: ruined his friendship with Jasper and ended Jasper's marriage all

1203
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 8: out of spite. My boyfriend told me that I'm an

1204
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 8: evil person for ending two other relationships because I'm upset

1205
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 8: with my own. I told him, I don't feel guilty

1206
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 8: at all. It's not like I'm making up lies. My boyfriend,

1207
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 8: Carl and Jasper's behavior is what is ending the relationship.

1208
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 8: After typing all this out, I realized that it's just

1209
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 8: all an ft up situation. I know what you all

1210
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 8: are going to say, Birds of a feather flock together.

1211
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 8: All three of them are bad eggs, and I should

1212
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 8: throw them all out. But I'm starting to feel a

1213
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 8: little guilty about Jasper and his merit, so I wanted

1214
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 8: to get some outside opinions. Was I wrong in telling

1215
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 8: Carl's girlfriend what I knew? And there is an update?

1216
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 8: What do you think?

1217
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: No, you're not wrong.

1218
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 8: This is the most obvious easy answers I've ever seen.

1219
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: Now, can we go back to what you were cheated on?

1220
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 4: Girl?

1221
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: You were cheated on? Like, please, please go back to them.

1222
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 3: I know all of the freaking comments are saying, girl,

1223
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: what excuse? Sorry?

1224
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 8: You stay with the guy who cheated on you, and

1225
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 8: you're asking if you're at faults. Yeah, it seems like

1226
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 8: the second that you knew about all of the cheating

1227
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 8: with the friends, you called them out on it and

1228
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 8: you know from them, So you're no longer the a hole,

1229
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 8: but you're a self a hole. Why are we stating

1230
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 8: with the guy that cheated on you out of obligation? Sure?

1231
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: Get out? Get out? Update.

1232
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 8: There wasn't an earlier update because I was embarrassed that

1233
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 8: I stayed with him and tried to make things work.

1234
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: For two months, we've been to couples counseling.

1235
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 8: In our individual get to know you session, the council

1236
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 8: tried to convince me to leave him for ninety five

1237
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 8: percent of the session, and he has pulled me back,

1238
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 8: and every time I tried to leave with promises of

1239
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 8: things getting better. It's not that easy to leave a

1240
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 8: harmful relationship, especially when they start doing things they've never

1241
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 8: done before in an effort to change. He made me

1242
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 8: a crappy person. I felt that since he is a cheating,

1243
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 8: harmful boyfriend, I had a right to always get my

1244
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 8: way and have acted like a witch.

1245
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: Oh.

1246
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 8: My friends, both those who know and those who don't

1247
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 8: know about his behavior, have told me I'm a shell

1248
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 8: of who I used to be. This all blew up

1249
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 8: when he wanted to go skating and I didn't. He

1250
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 8: wanted to go alone, but I just couldn't trust him.

1251
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 8: He said he was going to go with or without me.

1252
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 8: I felt backed into a corner where my options were

1253
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 8: to break up or go with him, so I went.

1254
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 8: I wasn't in the best mood when we got there.

1255
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 8: He started to brake me for being in a bad mood,

1256
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 8: asking me if I was even going to.

1257
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: Try to have a good time.

1258
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 8: I was reading through the comments at the last credit post.

1259
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 8: I do it when I feel like he's manipulating me

1260
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 8: to try and get the strength to leave, and he

1261
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 8: asked to see what I was reading. He realized what

1262
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 8: I was reading and told me he wanted to break up.

1263
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 8: It felt like a huge weight was lifted off my shoulders.

1264
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 8: He's currently in Vegas. He has mentioned his single friends

1265
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 8: were going earlier this week, and it was all sad,

1266
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 8: telling me that he knew he couldn't go because it

1267
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 8: wasn't safe. Realizing now, the manipulative guy just started this

1268
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 8: fight so we could go to Vegas, and he expects

1269
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 8: me to welcome him back home with open arms, which

1270
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 8: is what I keep doing over and over again. I

1271
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 8: thought that you guys would enjoy the lists of things

1272
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 8: this guy has done. He had a girlfriend when we met.

1273
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 8: They were supposed to move to LA together, and he

1274
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 8: moved a couple of weeks before her to start work

1275
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 8: while she packed up the house for them. He asked

1276
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 8: me to be exclusive.

1277
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: During this time.

1278
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 8: She got to LA when he was out of town,

1279
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 8: and he broke up with her by asking her to

1280
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 8: take out the trash can that I'd used protection in it.

1281
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 8: I found out about this two months after she had

1282
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 8: left and decided to stay with him. He cheated on

1283
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 8: his ex all the time. He unknowingly got an STD

1284
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 8: while cheating and gave it to her. She got tested

1285
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 8: and kept it a secret. He didn't have any outbreaks

1286
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 8: and she just had one and didn't tell him until

1287
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 8: she left LA. He kept all this from me even

1288
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 8: though we started having unprotected spicy sleep and I kept

1289
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 8: begging him to get tested, like at this point, we're

1290
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 8: two months in.

1291
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 3: We're two months in.

1292
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 5: You now know that you were the side relationship and

1293
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 5: that you might have something from him.

1294
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 8: Thankfully I didn't get it despite him refusing to use protection,

1295
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 8: it decreases his quality of light.

1296
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: Boooo, he can go cry about it.

1297
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 10: Wait, I'm sorry I read that one more time. That

1298
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 10: made zero sense.

1299
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: The protection doesn't feel as good for it. Oh what,

1300
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: you can go cry about it a little bit.

1301
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 5: Uh?

1302
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh, Pete, what are we doing?

1303
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 8: And being super irresponsible with his anti viral mets. After

1304
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 8: sleeping with the Spicy worker in Mexico, he slept with

1305
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 8: another girl twice. When asked about it, he said our

1306
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 8: relationship was over, so why not another fight. He started

1307
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 8: physically blocking me from leaving. I threatened to call the

1308
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 8: police and he got all offended, telling me he wasn't

1309
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 8: trying to hurt me, but there would be nothing for

1310
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 8: the police. To find if I called them picked fights

1311
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 8: so that he could go out and drink with his friends.

1312
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 8: When I tried to tell him how I felt like

1313
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 8: he was playing games and being manipulative, he told me

1314
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 8: he was offended that I would think that of him,

1315
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 8: and that the fights were valid, and he just happened

1316
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 8: to go out afterward. He's in the solid six figure range,

1317
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 8: but is horrible with money. He doesn't believe in retirement

1318
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 8: or savings of.

1319
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 10: A man's This is a real person.

1320
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 8: His baby mama gave him a break and doesn't even

1321
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 8: accept his full child support payments that were calculated when

1322
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 8: he made a fraction of what he makes.

1323
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: Now, well, I it's like he's a deadbeat dag.

1324
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 10: We get so many big red flag details about this man,

1325
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 10: and you decided to stay with ah.

1326
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 8: He tells me he resents me for paying for less

1327
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 8: than what he feels is fair, despite the fact that

1328
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 8: he has higher costs of living than I do. He

1329
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 8: talks down to me for how I eat and shop

1330
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 8: at discount grocery stores and tells me he can afford

1331
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 8: to exclusively shop at whole Foods and spend fifty dollars

1332
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 8: on lunch every day if he wants. He moved in

1333
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 8: with me to save money and because traffic from his

1334
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 8: place was horrible. He agreed to split rent based on income.

1335
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 8: He makes more than twice what I make, even paying more,

1336
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 8: His rent is half of what he paid before. After

1337
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 8: moving in, he told me that the agreement was unfair

1338
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 8: and he thought we should split rent. I told him

1339
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 8: I couldn't afford half the rent, and maybe a compromise

1340
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 8: was moving somewhere cheaper where I could afford half. His

1341
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 8: response was that he spent too much money to move

1342
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 8: and the only way we could move is if I

1343
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 8: paid for all moving costs. I also brought up the

1344
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 8: point that we pay for a second bedroom for his son,

1345
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 8: but since he's only here over the summer, maybe we

1346
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 8: can airbnb out the room. His response was that he

1347
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 8: didn't want people in and out of his house, and

1348
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 8: his son is part of the package of dating him,

1349
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 8: so I should be responsible for some of the costs

1350
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 8: of his son too. During the last couple of weeks,

1351
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 8: when we were talking about possibly breaking up, he told

1352
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 8: me I needed to get out of the house because

1353
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 8: he paid too much money to move in. He recouped

1354
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 8: all moving costs months ago, and he was going to

1355
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 8: try to punt me out. I lived in this house

1356
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 8: for a year before he did. Before he moved in,

1357
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 8: he would try to put me down by telling me

1358
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 8: how much of a piece of crap where I lived was,

1359
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 8: and how sad it was that I was a working

1360
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 8: professional living somewhere that was no better than a dorm.

1361
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 8: He had an agreement with his baby mama tod not

1362
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 8: introduce anybody to his son unless it was serious. As

1363
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 8: soon as baby Mama got engaged, he broke the rules,

1364
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 8: saying I only made that rule because their judgment can't

1365
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 8: be trusted. We were invited to his baby mama's wedding

1366
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 8: and he asked me to be there for moral support.

1367
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 8: He hinted at paying for both of us to go.

1368
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 8: He delayed buying the tickets despite me constantly asking him

1369
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 8: to book them. He then asked me to pay for

1370
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 8: my ticket. I told him I couldn't afford the tickets,

1371
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 8: and he told me I was a terrible partner who

1372
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 8: he couldn't depend on. He gets his son over summer

1373
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 8: and Christmas break and cries every time the sun leaves

1374
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 8: because he feels guilty and selfish, but he doesn't actually

1375
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 8: do anything about it. I planned an amazing summer for

1376
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 8: us at his request, filled with different summer camps, volunteering excursions,

1377
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 8: and vacations. He didn't fall through with a single thing,

1378
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 8: other than taking us on a last minute road trip

1379
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 8: the weekend before his son left. He pressured me to

1380
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 8: babysit his son after less than two months of dating,

1381
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 8: so he could go out and drink with his friends.

1382
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 8: He has a high stress job at a start up.

1383
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 8: I try to decrease his stress by cleaning, cooking, and

1384
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 8: running errands for him so that he can spend his

1385
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 8: free time doing things that matter to him. When we're good,

1386
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 8: he tells me how much he appreciates my efforts. When

1387
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 8: I ask him for anything that he doesn't want to do,

1388
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 8: he gets angry and asks me what I've ever done

1389
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 8: for him. I point out the errands, and he says

1390
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 8: it doesn't count because you never asked me to do

1391
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 8: those things.

1392
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: Opee.

1393
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,839
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're doing this to yourself, Opie.

1394
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: I get that when you're so into it, it's hard

1395
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 5: to see any of that as being bad. But now

1396
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 5: you seem to have a pretty solid list and a

1397
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 5: pretty good head on your shoulders. So if this doesn't

1398
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 5: end with you leaving this man and evicting him, or

1399
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 5: you leaving I'm gonna be I'm gonna.

1400
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: Be upset with you.

1401
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 10: Op, I'm already upset at Ope.

1402
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 5: This is I'm hoping written enough in the past that

1403
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 5: she's realized, because it is.

1404
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 3: It is hard.

1405
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 5: When you're in the thick of it and someone is

1406
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 5: berating you that much in gasoline, just being genuinely awful

1407
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 5: to you, you start to think, like, oh my god,

1408
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 5: what if this is me kind of thing?

1409
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 10: I have to say. This guy has to be like

1410
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 10: super duper hot.

1411
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 5: There's no way he's probably still but yeah, he's probably

1412
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 5: just that good at manipulating people.

1413
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 3: That's why I'm confused, Like, I'm so confused, Like.

1414
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 8: The fact that like he showed who he was or

1415
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 8: you found out who he was two months into it, Like.

1416
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 3: He probably also loved bombed or twos. Yeahly a rough thing.

1417
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 8: No, And he says it doesn't count because he's never

1418
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 8: asked me to do those things. He needs constant reassurance

1419
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 8: from others to feel like a man. He enjoys the

1420
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 8: attention he gets from females and will act single when

1421
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 8: he goes out without me. We had discussions about this

1422
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 8: and how uncomfortable it makes me, and he tells me

1423
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 8: that I do a great job of making him feel wanted,

1424
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 8: but sometimes he just needs to know he can take

1425
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 8: the model at the bar home, but it's okay because

1426
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 8: he doesn't actually take her home. I hate this story,

1427
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 8: and there's a little bit left of it.

1428
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 3: By the way, me too.

1429
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 8: Any final thoughts.

1430
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 5: If this doesn't end with you breaking up with this man,

1431
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a breakdown.

1432
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 10: Oh he made a very extensive list, extensive, very extensive,

1433
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 10: well detailed list, cheating on you of how a piece

1434
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 10: of crap this human being is. I don't I'm speechless.

1435
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 10: I have no words to say other than I'm speechless

1436
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 10: and that's insane, and that there's this is a type

1437
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 10: of human being out there. I don't understand. I don't understand.

1438
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 10: Just dumbfound it over here.

1439
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 3: Fortunately, there's too many men out.

1440
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 8: There, and there's a little bit left to this story. Yeah,

1441
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 8: he also picked a fight with me so he wouldn't

1442
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 8: have to come to my best friend's wedding even though

1443
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 8: his son was the ring bearer. Tells me he isn't

1444
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 8: sure he believes in monogamy. When I tell him a

1445
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,879
Speaker 8: huge component of polyamory is the consent of all parties involved.

1446
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 8: His response is that people who are okay with polyamory

1447
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 8: are too old.

1448
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: And ugly for him. These are just the big events.

1449
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 8: I'm not including the almost weekly fights during which he

1450
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 8: tells me that I deserve to be treated how he

1451
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 8: treats me because I'm a witch. Even after reading all

1452
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 8: these things over and over and over again, I just

1453
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 8: want to call him and tell him how much I

1454
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 8: miss him and how.

1455
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: Sorry I am.

1456
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 8: I know it's not true, but it feels like my

1457
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 8: world has fallen apart and he's the only one that

1458
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 8: can put it back together again. I don't have a question,

1459
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 8: but I need strength and just a platform to share.

1460
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 8: Thank you for taking time to read this

1461
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: Op and that's the end of this story.