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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a real tell the truth Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a rough one against the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 2: on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: We got tough Streuss coming up. How do we write

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Speaker 3: the ship fast?

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Speaker 1: It's coming up on the Booth Review. Welcome into the Ladies'

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Speaker 1: edition of the Booth Review Podcast. Ibraham Winstein with Big

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Speaker 1: Fletch London Fletcher. We're brought to you by Microsoft Surface

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Speaker 1: Copilot plus PC and we are in the Big Bear

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Speaker 1: AI Command Center studio off of London. That might be

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Speaker 1: the biggest gut punch that they've had in a year

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Speaker 1: plus with Dan Quinn and the whole new era that's

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Speaker 1: going on here. That was a tough one last night.

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Speaker 2: Very tough. And I know how I felt after that

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Speaker 2: ball game, and I know how you felt because we

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Speaker 2: were together walking out to the stadium and extremely disappointed

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Speaker 2: and now coming a game. I couldn't even I can't

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Speaker 2: even imagine what the players have to feel like after

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Speaker 2: that ball game when it seemed like we had the

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Speaker 2: game and control and we're, you know, in this situation

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Speaker 2: where bleed to clock out, get enough to get it

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Speaker 2: first down and oh score some points and put the

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Speaker 2: Bears in a precarious position. But man, that one hurts.

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Speaker 2: That one hurt. I'm I'm still feeling that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have too.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the closest thing that I can remember

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Speaker 1: in the year plus maybe that first Dallas game a

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Speaker 1: year ago, the way it kind of ended, where they

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Speaker 1: got back into it and Turpin had that kickoff for

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Speaker 1: gonna go to overtime and they didn't. That felt like

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Speaker 1: a gut bunch. But we were in a very different

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Speaker 1: state of the season. This is now three and three.

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Speaker 1: This was a very hyped game, you know, because of

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Speaker 1: all the subtext of what happened from a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and it was home and I think that's the other

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Speaker 1: part of it that was tough fourth quarter lead disappears

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Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons that we're going to get into.

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Speaker 4: So I just kind of want to start with this.

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Speaker 1: If you were in that locker room, what would you

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Speaker 1: be saying to your teammates, Well, first I.

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Speaker 2: Get them to understand that we're only six games into

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Speaker 2: the season with three and three, and then you look

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Speaker 2: at it, We're only one game out of our division lead.

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Speaker 2: The he goes they got the one game division lead,

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Speaker 2: So let's understand that. Think big picture wise. But the

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Speaker 2: only thing we can control now is how we prepare

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Speaker 2: for our next ball game against the Dallas Cowboys. Let's

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Speaker 2: not make this bigger than what it is. And when

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Speaker 2: I say it's important, don't get me wrong. We have

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Speaker 2: to understand why we lost that football game. The things

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Speaker 2: that need to be corrected, especially things that are happening

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again, like you consistently see

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Speaker 2: these same things showing up weekend and week out. Those

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Speaker 2: things have to be corrected, like we cannot continue to

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Speaker 2: do certain things. The From that standpoint, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: the leaders, you got to you gotta make sure you're

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Speaker 2: first of all, showing how how you want guys to prepare,

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Speaker 2: showing how you want guys to practice, and then come

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Speaker 2: game day, making sure you're producing and doing all the

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Speaker 2: things you need to do, but also elevating and bringing

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Speaker 2: this team. So that's how you get over this. We've

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Speaker 2: win a game, lose a game, so we have to

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Speaker 1: You know, a couple of weeks ago, after they lost

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Speaker 1: heard some of the noise and people were saying specifically

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Speaker 1: one felt a little different last night, and I would argue,

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Speaker 1: fingerpoint at a lot of different directions here, right, Like

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Speaker 1: because yeah, Jayden and Bill had a mishandled snap that

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Speaker 1: The defense also didn't get a stop there. They also

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Speaker 2: On the outside. I'll tell you this, Brown, every time

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Speaker 2: He's going to say, man, what could I have done differently?

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Speaker 2: What could I have done to help change the outcome

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Speaker 2: I make this play, you know that changes this outcome.

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Speaker 2: We don't get to put us in this situation if

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Speaker 2: that I've I've seen more guys do than anything. We

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Speaker 2: to what could have done differently to help win that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so let's get into some of the big

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Speaker 4: Is, and that is not at all.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get any takeaways, and they also turned the

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Speaker 1: They did block a field goal that also feels like

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Speaker 4: But it doesn't count.

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Speaker 2: It's a momentum shift.

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Speaker 1: But minus three, you know, in any game or over

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Speaker 4: And they'll tell you that, Yeah, that's a Dick ver mill.

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Speaker 2: When I played for him, he used to and maybe

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Speaker 2: even Mike, Mike Shanahan two used to have these statistics

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Speaker 2: But your percentage is the odds of you winning that

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Speaker 2: But there's a way like why why were we did

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Speaker 2: such slow starts? Those are the things you gotta continue

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's take on the three turnovers here, and

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Speaker 1: we'll take them each. I'm gonna do it backwards because

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Speaker 1: the last one, you know, clearly gave the Bears life.

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Speaker 1: This was had Washington converted on a third and one.

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Speaker 1: It's unlikely that the Bears would have left themselves enough

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Speaker 4: Point it could have been a nine point game. The

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Speaker 1: The rain I think plays an issue here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It started to rain again. But what did you see

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Speaker 2: I saw that it looked like, I mean, Jaden, for

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Speaker 2: what I saw, wet ball, drove ball, rain, whatever. The

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Speaker 1: How about the Bill fumble the first go around the

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Speaker 2: The Bills fumble? First of all, I thought the Bears

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Speaker 2: But in his mind, he's stiff arming a guy to

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Speaker 3: So lesson learn.

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Speaker 2: Understanding when and where there's a time and a place

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Speaker 2: to kind of make those type of plays. Good play

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Speaker 2: by them. Bill this second week in a row that

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Speaker 2: to be viewed as a guy who fumbles the football.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is. But that's what I saw

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Speaker 1: And with Jaden, I mean, there were two gaffes really,

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Speaker 1: kind of like surprised today at some of them. The fumble,

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Speaker 4: So what did you see on the Brisker interception?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the first thing you have to know, or

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Speaker 2: you as the coaches, you have to ask and did

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Speaker 2: Was throwing that scene? All that passed to Debo the

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Speaker 2: that's something that only they know as a coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have eleven takeaways in the last three games.

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Speaker 1: This is something that Washington's been trying to generate here,

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Speaker 4: Isn't going to win.

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Speaker 1: This is four of six games that the team has

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Speaker 2: Yea, they had two interception opportunities that I look at

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Speaker 2: I thought that was another opportunity for us to uh

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Speaker 2: from a interception standpoint in that ball game. I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they it looked like Hamilton recovered it. But when

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Speaker 2: So think about this. We have the mishandled snap early

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Speaker 2: it was on a was a fourth down play. No,

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Speaker 4: Where this happened in the Atlanta game too.

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Speaker 1: Remember Bjon fumbled the ball and it happened to go

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Speaker 2: That's them now, when you're punching it out creating opportunities

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Speaker 2: for you to potentially recover, you're creating those plays for yourself.

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Speaker 1: The snap issue, that was something that you know, we're

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Speaker 1: I want to switch to the defense with you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That actually wasn't the case last night. The Bears got

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Speaker 1: right Washington turned it over twice. It wasn't that they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I would say this. Though there was the

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Speaker 2: some nice stuff dialed up. Could we have been better defensively,

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Speaker 2: especially in the open drive, to not allow them to

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Speaker 2: three to nothing lead. Yes, I think we could have

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Speaker 2: made a few more plays. We could have all night.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think we just finded to stop the run

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Speaker 2: well enough. DeAndre Swift Swift fourteen carries one hundred and

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Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty plus from script.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't fit the run, didn't tackle well enough.

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Speaker 2: I thought from a pass cover standpoint, we were good enough.

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Speaker 2: But it was more disappointed about the stopping the run

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Speaker 1: It's been interesting. Like with Swift, he's had big games

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Speaker 1: He had another big one last night Bears. There's two

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Speaker 1: things that occurred less than I think we're going to

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Speaker 1: a moment. Washington came in number one rush offense. Bears

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Speaker 1: came in with second to worst rush defense and in fact,

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Speaker 4: So what did you see from the Bears running game

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Speaker 4: that kind of got him going last night.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a lot of the outside zones or

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Speaker 2: toss plays, pinning pools, things like that to get to

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Speaker 2: We got reached a couple times. Guys got out of

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Speaker 2: of times. And then there were other times where miss

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Speaker 2: making this tackle that missed the tackle. As far as

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Speaker 2: fitting up correctly, not having a hard enough edge, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you this, right fifty eight he did a really

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Speaker 2: nice job on the last big run by Swift where

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Speaker 2: success against us doing it. You're not gonna be able

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Speaker 2: with the way ken law and pain and you know

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Speaker 1: And the other thing in this listen the what was

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting when everyone keeps talking about they give

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Speaker 1: There have been some to receivers, but largely this year

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Speaker 3: It did.

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Speaker 2: I thought the Bears, we had we blistered several times

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Speaker 2: let's get him down, make the tackle. He put a little,

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Speaker 2: just get him out of bonds, push him out of

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Speaker 2: It ended up after looking at it, it wasn't as

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Speaker 1: But you gotta whatever you gotta do, you gotta you

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Speaker 2: And it was it was man man across the board.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that you know, I think there

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Speaker 1: You know, they had actually scored a lot of points

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Speaker 2: They were heavy player action team coming into the ball game.

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Speaker 2: ball game. I don't they ran the ball better than

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Speaker 2: they had been running, so that was probably the only surprise.

439
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Speaker 2: But in terms of Swift's hip.

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Speaker 1: Three point three of Kerry coming into the game, they

441
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Speaker 1: were not running the ball. Well, granted, you mentioned Darnell right,

442
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Speaker 1: he had missed the last game. They had some switching

443
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Speaker 1: around going on with their offensive line. They had started

444
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Speaker 1: an undrafted second year player for the first time. It

445
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Speaker 1: left tackles, so they were moving some parts around.

446
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Speaker 2: So in terms of as far as our defense getting

447
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Speaker 2: some looks or some players that they weren't prepared for.

448
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Speaker 2: I didn't see that coming to the same type of

449
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Speaker 2: runs that they had always run. They just ran them better,

450
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Speaker 2: And some of that is credit to the Bears, but

451
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Speaker 2: a lot of that is also on us as well.

452
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Speaker 2: But ye heavy play action. There were times where what

453
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Speaker 2: Caleb had a long time, too much time, especially early

454
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Speaker 2: in the ball game, where he was able to to

455
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Speaker 2: allow his receivers to uncover, so to speak, or they're

456
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Speaker 2: running across the field against man and man coverage. I

457
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Speaker 2: remember Dj Moore passed the Dj Moore maybe another one

458
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Speaker 2: of Roman duneze off the play action when they're just

459
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Speaker 2: running these deep over routes, deep crossing ross. Because he

460
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Speaker 2: has so much time, he was able to complete those passes.

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Speaker 1: I think CaAl was light years ahead of where he

462
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Speaker 1: was a year ago. Like he got sacked almost seventy

463
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Speaker 1: times last year. This year, I don't remember what the

464
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Speaker 1: number was for the Commanders, three or four something like that.

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Speaker 3: Last year.

466
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Speaker 1: We got three last night three, So it's just ten

467
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Speaker 1: and so it's way different, Like it's half of what

468
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Speaker 1: he was giving up a year ago. He seems to

469
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Speaker 1: be playing more in the context of the system, he

470
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Speaker 1: and Ben Jonson seemed to be getting on the same page.

471
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Speaker 1: When he does improvise at times, that's where he gets

472
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Speaker 1: himself seemingly in trouble, Like he took a hit from

473
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Speaker 1: Louver last night that I could not believe he took.

474
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Speaker 1: I stopped on the sideline and took this leveling shot

475
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Speaker 1: from Louvu last night.

476
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Speaker 2: What the thing is, he has so much confidence and

477
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Speaker 2: ability to make plays outside of the pocket, and he's

478
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Speaker 2: in his mind he's a passer first. When he's out

479
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Speaker 2: of the pocket, he's not thinking about running, so he's

480
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: constantly looking keeping his eyes down the field, and I'm

481
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Speaker 2: looking like, man, this play is over. He's gonna just

482
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Speaker 2: throw it away, but he decided to keep trying to

483
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Speaker 2: go down Silide. Yeah, he got rocked by.

484
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Speaker 1: Louvu, but I will say, I mean, I think he's

485
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Speaker 1: getting better and I do wonder too. Just before we

486
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Speaker 1: get Logan in, I just want to I want you

487
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Speaker 1: to kind of take us through now that it's over.

488
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Speaker 1: This is a wildly hyped game. You know, the game

489
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Speaker 1: from a year ago speaks for itself at what happened.

490
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Speaker 1: They've had weird games with that team for the last

491
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Speaker 1: few years, like different staff. They had the weird ending

492
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Speaker 1: in the one on that Thursday night game in Chicago

493
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Speaker 1: where Edge would say Juice made a play on the

494
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Speaker 1: half yard line right that seal to win. Is there

495
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Speaker 1: something about when you know you're playing a team where

496
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Speaker 1: the outcomes typically are strange maybe to be the best

497
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Speaker 1: way to put it, that adds to kind of the

498
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Speaker 1: element when you're going out on the field and playing

499
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Speaker 1: a team like that.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure there is. It's we're starting to develop a

501
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Speaker 2: little bit of a rivalry with the with the Chicago Bears,

502
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Speaker 2: although they're not in our division, because we played them

503
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Speaker 2: every year, I know, since I've been calling the games.

504
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Speaker 2: We played them every year. And then you add in

505
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Speaker 2: the the Caleb Jaden dynamic, the hell Mary dynamic. So

506
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Speaker 2: this UH then last night's game, this added to that

507
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Speaker 2: that trilogy or whatever you want to call it, the

508
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Speaker 2: UH I don't know, whatever you want to call our

509
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Speaker 2: our UH story or contest with those guys. It's going

510
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Speaker 2: to probably be close games every time we link up,

511
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Speaker 2: or the expectations are it's going to be a close game,

512
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Speaker 2: and it's something crazy is probably going to happen down

513
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Speaker 2: the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were with the good Saint Louis teams,

515
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Speaker 1: did you was there an intersection with somebody that was

516
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Speaker 1: like became kind of a rival because I see this.

517
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Speaker 2: Chicago. It was one year with the Saints that that

518
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Speaker 2: became a rival. They got they got really good. In

519
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Speaker 2: two thousand, a year after we won the Super Bow,

520
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Speaker 2: we actually split during the regular season. They beat us

521
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Speaker 2: in our place, and then we beat them in their place,

522
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Speaker 2: and they'll played them again in the regular in the playoffs. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 2: that year and they actually host them. We lost them.

524
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Speaker 2: Force them to kick a field a punt at the

525
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Speaker 2: end of the game, the end of a possession. I

526
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Speaker 2: think we were down maybe three. They punted, muff punt,

527
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Speaker 2: They recover, get them over.

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Speaker 1: Don't you feel like, I mean this has everything. Kales

529
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Speaker 1: number one pick, Jamee's number two pick. They've played weird

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Speaker 1: games against one another. They both feel like they're kind

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Speaker 1: of rising at the same time. They're intersecting at the

532
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Speaker 1: same time. You know, Tom Brady would be Peyton Manning

533
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Speaker 1: would be greats on their own, rut them together, intersecting

534
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Speaker 1: through their careers.

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Speaker 4: Mahomes has allan.

536
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Speaker 1: This has the feeling of we just saw episode two

537
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Speaker 1: of Many as these two kinds of intersect over the

538
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Speaker 1: next I don't know, hopefully.

539
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Speaker 2: You hope that we'll have some truly truly meaningful matchups

540
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Speaker 2: for with the between these two teams. I know the

541
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Speaker 2: networks will love it. Or you're playing we're playing each

542
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Speaker 2: other in the playoffs and.

543
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Speaker 5: It might actually don't happen this year. Who knows, who

544
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Speaker 5: knows right, And people seem to have forgotten that part

545
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Speaker 5: a little bit. Today it's three and three, one game

546
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Speaker 5: back of the division lead. Nothing settled here, you set.

547
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Speaker 2: Up, but we'll say this. In order to get to

548
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Speaker 2: where we want to be and be the football team

549
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Speaker 2: that we want to be, we're going to have to

550
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Speaker 2: play better, yeah, and every facet and be do it

551
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Speaker 2: more consistently. Yeah.

552
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Speaker 1: All right, So we went through the defense. Let's bring

553
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Speaker 1: out logan Logan, Paulsen, we'll do Pulsen from the pines.

554
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Speaker 1: Were gettingto the offense, and we kind of went through

555
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Speaker 1: all of the turnovers. Maybe we'll get your thoughts a

556
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Speaker 1: little bit on that, but I just want to have

557
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Speaker 1: a general sense of where you are on the offense

558
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Speaker 1: last night, three turnovers, missed field goal, twenty four points,

559
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Speaker 1: I don't think in the end, if you really think

560
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Speaker 1: about it, that that was all that bad of a

561
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Speaker 1: performance on that side of the ball.

562
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously like did they play well enough

563
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Speaker 3: to win the game, Sure, But I think when you

564
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Speaker 3: kind of step back objectively, like would you like to

565
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Speaker 3: be more efficient running the football? Sure, you can't turn

566
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Speaker 3: the football over twice a couple penalties and critical situations.

567
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Speaker 3: And I'm not again, I'm not trying to say that

568
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Speaker 3: they did anything badly, right, I think you'd probably say

569
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Speaker 3: that's a solid C plus performance. But I think if

570
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Speaker 3: you're if if I'm Cliff Kingsbury coming today, I'm saying,

571
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Speaker 3: there are some things we could have done better, you

572
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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

573
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I.

574
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Speaker 3: Think that's the thing that I take away is I

575
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Speaker 3: thought you I heard you guys talking like talking about

576
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Speaker 3: the Bears and their plan how to stop the how

577
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Speaker 3: to stop the run with eight man boxes, line stunts,

578
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: first down pressures. That's going to become a formula, I think,

579
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Speaker 3: to stop what we're doing moving forward. So can you

580
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Speaker 3: learn from it? Can we find more ways on the

581
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Speaker 3: perimeter to get our guys to win and man a

582
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Speaker 3: man coverage?

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what I wan say we all get that

584
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: same type of game plan and structure defensively, because that's

585
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: what teams do until we get healthier at the receiver position.

586
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: Are now, these are the guys that Chris Moore made plays,

587
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: Luke made plays for the plays for US, Jaylen made

588
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: plays for US, and during the absence of Terry and Noah.

589
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Speaker 2: But what defense is going to say is can these

590
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Speaker 2: guys consistently over sixty minutes make plays? So it's once

591
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Speaker 2: we get healthy, until we get healthy, we'll see that

592
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Speaker 2: same type of structure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're just playing percentages on the defense.

594
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Speaker 3: Absolutely football, right, You're basically saying, if we flip a coin,

595
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Speaker 3: you know, like it's not fifty to fifty if Chris

596
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Speaker 3: Moore beats our starting corner because he's a while, he

597
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: had a good performance and made a great play and

598
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: is a contributing member to this team, Like he's not

599
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Speaker 3: gonna win that that statistical matchup the same way Terry

600
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Speaker 3: McLaurin is gonna win. And that's why Terry's making fifty

601
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Speaker 3: million dollars and Chris Moore is a practice squad guy, right,

602
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: Like it just it just tips the decks statistically in

603
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Speaker 3: your favor. So with regards to the offense, I think

604
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: Jayden had to do a lot of heavy lifting. I

605
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: think he played pretty well on the whole.

606
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Speaker 2: Debo wasn't healthy?

607
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's another thing too, is and you

608
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Speaker 3: could just feel, like, you know, watching the All twenty two,

609
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: you could feel the lack of kind of speed and

610
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Speaker 3: vertical juice into the defense and how they could just

611
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Speaker 3: kind of sit over top. So did they play okay? Yeah,

612
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Speaker 3: I think so. But are there some things that I

613
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Speaker 3: think this game reveals that I think need to be

614
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Speaker 3: addressed moving forward. Yes, and I think that comes out

615
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Speaker 3: of every game. But I and the other thing to

616
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Speaker 3: your point, Bram, that I'm always trying to remind myself

617
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Speaker 3: is this is an offensive led football team in my mind, right,

618
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Speaker 3: even when they're not healthy, like, they need to score

619
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Speaker 3: a lot of points. Yeah, Like they need to offload

620
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Speaker 3: some of that from the defense. So when you say

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Speaker 3: it's a good performance, yes, but in order for this

622
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Speaker 3: team to consistently win football games, the way we've built

623
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Speaker 3: the roster, the way we've constructed the defense, they need

624
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Speaker 3: to score a lot of points. And that's maybe unfair. Well,

625
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Speaker 3: that's the way I look at.

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Speaker 4: It, well, I mean, look what they did in the

627
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Speaker 4: offense season.

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Speaker 1: They went and traded for Laramie Tunzell to bolster the line,

629
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Speaker 1: which has a trickle down effect to the rest of

630
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Speaker 1: the line that hopefully makes it better. They use their

631
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Speaker 1: first round pick on a right tackle. They trade to

632
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Speaker 1: get Deebo Samuel in here to get explosive playmakers. They

633
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: draft Bill, they draft Lane, They're looking for speed. I

634
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: think they've hit on Bill. I know the fumbles and

635
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: all that, but like I think they've hit on him

636
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: as much as you could ask of a seventh round pick.

637
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: This team needs to be led by its offense. But

638
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: they haven't had this group healthy since day one a

639
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: training camp, not once. They haven't had this group healthy once,

640
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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping in the very near future you're going

641
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: to see that. But again, they're going to have to

642
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: incorporate people in. Terry hasn't played in a few weeks.

643
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Speaker 1: No Brown hasn't played in a month. Even if they

644
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: are healthy, it's still going to take time. But I

645
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Speaker 1: agree with you in the end for them to get

646
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Speaker 1: where they want to get to, the offense is going

647
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Speaker 1: to have to be the side of the ball.

648
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Speaker 2: I know you're going to dissect the game. You probably

649
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: watched it three times already offensively with the run game,

650
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Speaker 2: and we've been able to run the football against everybody

651
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Speaker 2: for the most part, this game against the Bears, who

652
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Speaker 2: we know they were thirty first ranked run defense in

653
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Speaker 2: the National Football League. He hated that narrative going in

654
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: all because it happens where teams have games, especially coming

655
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: out of the buy Yeah. Yeah, And then you could tell,

656
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: do you think even even without the healthy guys on

657
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: the perimeter with imagine we're going to Dallas, same guys,

658
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: do you feel like Dallas will be able to replicate

659
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: that same type of game plan? And us, are there

660
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: things if we correct on our end that we if

661
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: we do a couple of things differently, we'll be able

662
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: to run the ball.

663
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: So this is just my opinion. I haven't talked to

664
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: anybody about this, just my observation. I do feel like

665
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: when if you want to be a died in the

666
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: wall running the football team like we are, this is

667
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: who we are, lived by the sword, died by the

668
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: sword team, like you need to have certain qualities to

669
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: the front, right, like you need to get in kind

670
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: of like tighter splits. You need to get receivers or

671
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: crack safeties, like think about what Detroit does. Right, It's

672
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: like all these content splits Kyle Shanahan when they're all healthy,

673
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: like they get in these like kind of boxy formations.

674
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: And so I kind of feel like right now Cliff

675
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: is of two worlds, which is really hard to do.

676
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 3: He's installed kind of this like jumbo heavy you know,

677
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: thirteen personnel look with a Trent's extra offensive lineman. And

678
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: they've got some diverse run looks there, but they don't

679
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: like they haven't like mastered those looks. Does that make sense?

680
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: And there they present enough novelty versus deems that are

681
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: going to play light boxes that they're able to hit

682
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: big runs right. But they also got the spread stuff right.

683
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: And so I think for him, for Cliff, it's like

684
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: which card do you put down to manipulate the defense?

685
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: So to me, I think they said we're gonna go big,

686
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna go heavy, We're gonna try and push you

687
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: off the ball in retrospect, and it's so easy for

688
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: me to sit here on Tuesday and kind of have

689
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: this thought. I would have thought some of the runs

690
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: they ran versus the charge where they got in the

691
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: three by ones, they forced guys to displace from the box.

692
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: They force them to declare who the blitzers are. Like,

693
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 3: the problem with those condensed sets is like you can

694
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: blitz anybody right, everybody's right there. There's no indicator to

695
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: the pressure. So I feel like they're kind of operating

696
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: in two spaces and I feel like for the game plan,

697
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: sometimes Cliff says or the staff says, we're going to

698
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: go heavy, big, when in reality like for them to

699
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: be the best version of themselves running the football, because

700
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: they don't major in that all the time. We got

701
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: to go, hey, we're gonna go lights, spread them out,

702
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: find our number count advantages, and manipulate them that way.

703
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: So in regards to your question of like can they

704
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: replicate anybody can replicate this. That's the thing stopping the

705
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: run in the NFL, and Fletch can speak to this

706
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: better than anybody.

707
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: Is just math.

708
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: If you have six blockers, we have eight defenders. And

709
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: that's all the Bears did. It wasn't like this crazy

710
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: complicated game plan. They played a lot of single high,

711
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: a lot of men on the perimeter, and they said

712
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: we dare you, and that's what they're gonna do, and

713
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: so can the Giants. Can the Cowboy? Sure? It's like,

714
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: do they trust their permater players to get it done?

715
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: It is a little bit not to cut you off left, No, Like.

716
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: I believe like a lot of this stuff is matchup

717
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: related and matchup dependent. Okay, so look at the Bears

718
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: coming into this. What's the strength of their defense coming in?

719
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Their secondary had actually been playing really well, and they

720
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: got back Kyler Gordon who hadn't played the entire year.

721
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: Right Stevenson, who I know was a butt of a

722
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: joke because of everything that happened with the hail Mary

723
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: had been playing really really well. They were turning the

724
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: ball over typically on the back end, they've been very physical.

725
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: I think they looked at this and said, we favor

726
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: this matchup. We trust our guys on the outside because

727
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: we think that these guys can cover those guys and

728
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: take our chances up front. We're gonna stop from running

729
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: the ball. To your point, I dare you, I've been

730
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: waiting for a few weeks for a team to go.

731
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: I dare you. With Terry McLaurin not on the field

732
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: and Noah Brown out on the field. The other teams

733
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: hadn't really done that to them. I think the Bears

734
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: were confident in the people that they had to do it,

735
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: and it did for the most part, for the most

736
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: part work. They still gave up a long touchdown to

737
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: Luke MacCaffrey, They still gave up along past the Jayalen

738
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: lane and maybe the that's just some of the risk

739
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: reward you take for playing in the style like that.

740
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I go back to like, also, both their

741
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: linebackers got healthy, and I thought both those guys, Edmunds

742
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 3: and Edwards played well. You know, you feel their impact.

743
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Edwards had not played in a few weeks.

744
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you feel their impact in terms of

745
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: what they bring from an athleticism, speed tackling perspective, and

746
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: going back to an initial point brand of like, did

747
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: they play well enough to win? I do think they

748
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: played well enough to win because they were able to

749
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: find some explosive shots. But I do think this game

750
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: shows kind of some areas that need to be worked on.

751
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: It need to be improved, and that's every game, right,

752
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: But I think that's where i'd kind of say, like

753
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: I get really reluctant to say, yes, they played well

754
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: enough to win when there's some other factors that need

755
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: to be addressed, especially when you're an offensive driven football team.

756
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing I keep coming back to.

757
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: When you were offensive driven and you don't win, it

758
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: wasn't good enough to win the game, if that makes sense.

759
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: One of the things that I saw where that prevented

760
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: some rough really breaking. There were a couple of times

761
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: where because of the starting and stuff like that. You

762
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: always talk about targeting your right targeting guys on your runs,

763
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: there was some confusion free hitters on. It was a

764
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: couple of times where okay, this the linebacker was supposed

765
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: to block the wait, they changed the picture on me

766
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: and now I don't block the correct linebacker, or they're

767
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: doing the little stunts they're knocking, they're knocking me off

768
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: and I can't get to the second level. Stuff like that.

769
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: So there was some stuff like that that happened on

770
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 2: a couple of occasions. It was there was one play

771
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: where it was Bill was about the crease the man

772
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: and it was just that little split where he was

773
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: able to get off a block because because of the

774
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: blocking scheme. I don't know if it was a lineman

775
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: or tight end like, oh, shoot, he's blitzing. I gotta

776
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: block him instead of working to get this defensive end,

777
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: and he was the one who makes the tackle.

778
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: I think there's that's a really good example of what

779
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: we're talking about. Is when you're living in heavy personnel

780
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: and you're going to see heavy box structures, it changes

781
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: the targets because there's another guy in there. Right, so

782
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: it's like, are we targeted to this guy or we

783
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: targeted one back. You mentioned the pressures, right, so you're

784
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: targeting a guy that's off the ball. We got to

785
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: push back. They're peeling double teams. Now the receivers in

786
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: the blocking surface. He's used to blocking this guy, but

787
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: he's actually got to block that guy. And i'd say,

788
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: of what they're on thirty runs, I'd say on ten

789
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: of them, there's moments where and it's not their fault

790
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: because it and having been in that situation. It happens

791
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 3: so quickly because you're like, oh, we're getting a line stunt, Okay,

792
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: I got this is where we're targeted. And then on

793
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: the move almost you got to think, now I'm the

794
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: guy that's going to the second level. I got to

795
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 3: get to this opportunity so I think there's a little

796
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: bit of that, and so again just getting experience with

797
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 3: some of these heavier personnel runs, If this is going

798
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: to be the solution, I think it's something they got

799
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: to look at. And again, you know, it's so interesting

800
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: when you think when you think you have a solution

801
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: in a game like and I call games at the

802
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: high school level, So you think you've got a solution,

803
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: but all of a sudden, they've got a good response.

804
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: You need to find a way to adjust to that.

805
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: And whether that's play action pass, whether that's some of

806
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: these spread out formations to run the football, all of

807
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: those things become things you need to consider, and it

808
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: just it's hard in the moment. But again, I think

809
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: the Bears did a great job of and I don't

810
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: think the offensive line played badly. That's the other thing

811
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: that I'm not saying.

812
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: It's not even just off everybody.

813
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: Everybody just they just they just threw a hard pitch.

814
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: And again, like I remember being with Kyle here and

815
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: Mike and them talking about the Indianapolis Colts, how they

816
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: used to run that like line stunt with the scrape

817
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 3: over top of the linebackers, and we would just rep

818
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: that over and over and over and over, and so

819
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: on game day you could do it. But if you

820
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: had a different run up that you hadn't repped it for,

821
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: you'd be lost. So it's just it's it's when they

822
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: do stuff like that and you haven't prepped it, it

823
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: puts you in a tough spot.

824
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: They also like to be fair to Cliff and what

825
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: they're trying to put together here. Like if you told

826
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: me at the beginning of the summer that this team

827
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: is going to be running Trent Scott as an extra

828
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: offensive lineman on the field all the time, yeah, I

829
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: would tell you you're crazy, because that's not going to be

830
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: what they are. But when you are missing some of

831
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: the people that you're missing on the outside, you have

832
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: to adjust. Here's a team that had two weeks to

833
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: prepare for this and had seen it for a couple

834
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: of weeks, and Terry McClory is still not playing, Noah

835
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: Brown is still not playing. So I think the Bears

836
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: got a couple of weeks of looks at this and

837
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: decided this is how we're going to attack it. And

838
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: I'll go back to the other point. I think they

839
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: liked their matchup on the outside with their corners and

840
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: their safeties. At the way they were playing against the

841
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: outside options that Washington had. It was a recipe here,

842
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: which is why I've landed on. In the end, they

843
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: scored twenty four points, could have had more than that.

844
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: It was their turnovers, a missed field goal, they would

845
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: have had thirty plus and that would have won the game.

846
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Amid the fact that they never got a take away

847
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: in it, they lost by a point with all of

848
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: those mistakes that occurred.

849
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: I do think the bye week is a big thing too,

850
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: because they couldn't have done all that stuff. Like I mean,

851
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: you watched the film before, Like the Giants defense was

852
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: the focus was completely different the Bears. I keep saying

853
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: the Giants the Bears. The Bears defense was completely different.

854
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: They played with intensity that they hadn't played with either.

855
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: And I think part of that intensity because probably to

856
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: looking at their their film, especially the run deep, I'm like, man,

857
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: they just don't get much disruptive plays. They don't play

858
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 2: on the other side of the line of scrimmage well,

859
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: because they had such an aggressive defensive game plan to

860
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: where they're stunning and they're blitzing. That puts them in

861
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: the aggressive mindset and you just saw. I mean it

862
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: was the entire game they're playing on the other side

863
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: of the ball, they're running and making plays. I mean

864
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: there was some running and hidding happening out there that

865
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: I just hadn't quite quite frankly seen from them, especially

866
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: in the run game.

867
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. And again I remember watching the

868
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: Dallas game versus the Bears, and they're running GT, they're

869
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: running counter, and they're blowing guys off the ball, they're

870
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: running pin pull, and I'm like, these are all runs

871
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: that the Commanders run. They should be good. But then

872
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: they come out in a completely different front, completely different mindset,

873
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: And I think the mindset is the thing.

874
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: And another thing they did when then replay, Yeah, they

875
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: were just sending that defensive end or whoever it was.

876
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: Then in man online of scrimmage, they were sending him

877
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: at Jaden plan all the time. Now, it was a

878
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: couple of times we're like, Okay, maybe you should have

879
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: handled his ball off Jaye, just because of how they

880
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: were playing it. But they was like, we're not going

881
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: to allow him to get out the outside up against

882
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: our defense.

883
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: We're accustom seeing Jaden scramble a lot because it is

884
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: one of his powers. But it was noticeable to me

885
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: and I think that all of us when we were

886
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: watching that there were numerous times that he was waiting

887
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: to throw. It wasn't like he was taking off very quickly.

888
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: So the Bears also with the aggressive front and how

889
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: they were kind of handling the Washington rush offense, they

890
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: got a pretty good plan on the back end too.

891
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: He was forced to run, and I will give him credit,

892
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: he looked more like himself than he really had since

893
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: the injury when he did take off and was seeming

894
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: labeled to make yards with his legs last night.

895
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's a really important to call

896
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: this to attention. Is I think Jane Daniels did a

897
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: really good job. And that's going to sound crazy considering

898
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: the fumble and the interception, but like in terms of

899
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: his ability to elevate an offense, like it's apparent every

900
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: time he's making the decision back there for you really

901
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: Like there's times where it's like they're running a high

902
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 3: cross and the hook player falls right underneath it. There's

903
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: nowhere to go with the football, it's dead to rights,

904
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: the pockets closing around him. He's able to scramble for ten,

905
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: he's able to scramble for fifteen, the play with Montes

906
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 3: sweat at the end of the game where he's able

907
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: to shake him and scoot forward there to get to

908
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: the third and short like and again, like he's just

909
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: so smart when it comes to that stuff, and so

910
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 3: fastidious with the football, you know, and everyone just just fastidious, fastidious, deliberate, careful.

911
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I've I love it.

912
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: With the football that Like, I think we're surprised he

913
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: throws the interception, but there's probably ten other times in

914
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: the game, maybe seven, where you're like he could have

915
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: thrown a pick here, but he was being careful of

916
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: being smart, being deliberate, and still managing to keep the

917
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: offense on schedule. So really, you know, like I got

918
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: a question this morning about Kayleb Williams versus J Daniels.

919
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: I felt like Jayden was kind of carrying the offense,

920
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: you know, through his playmaking ability, Yes, And I felt

921
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: like Caleb was being elevated by the offense in a

922
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 3: way that.

923
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: He operated their offense. Yeah, and he operated their offense. Well, yeah, I.

924
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: Think that's good for him. Actually, not that this is

925
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: a Caleb william show.

926
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: But like good for Caleb.

927
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Yes, that like the meeting of the minds between those

928
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: two is going to be ken Ben Johnson. Get him

929
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: to trust him in the offense and not go rogue

930
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: constantly where he gets sacked a million times or makes

931
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: these kind of crazy you know mahomesy in plays that

932
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: don't end up with the Mahomesy in highlight. And I

933
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: think we saw that last night with two weeks off.

934
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: I think we all were sitting there going, what are

935
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: they cooking up? What's it going to look like? You're

936
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be Like Actually, I thought he just played

937
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: within the context of their offense. It didn't seem like

938
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: that much of a surprise, and he was executing within

939
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: the context of it, which I think is the maturation

940
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: for him.

941
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: Daniels came in as in a different spot.

942
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't even think they're the same player in a

943
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: different spot, Like he was operating the offense early. Like

944
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: Williams had to trust the offensive coordinator. Daniels and Clips

945
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: seemed to trust each other here and that started almost

946
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: from the get go.

947
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it goes back to Dan and Adam and

948
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: their ability to create a positive ecosystem for the quarterback

949
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: and all those decisions, like with bringing all the offensive

950
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: linemen in, because even though they had a tough time

951
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: on first second down, I thought they passed protected for

952
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: the most part, really really well. McNichols did a great job,

953
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: and they gave him an opportunity to see the field.

954
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 3: It's it's really I mean it's I think you feel

955
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: some of the injuries and the on the perimeter. I'm

956
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: trying to say that as nicely as possible because I

957
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: have a lot of that's fair. I have a lot

958
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: of respect for Luke and a lot of respect for Chris.

959
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: Morre, and I appreciate that because as people are watching this,

960
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: those guys have done an Outdad.

961
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: They've done a great So I'm not trying to take

962
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: away they.

963
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: Have done a great job. But I think what you

964
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: you hit the nail on the head when you said defensively,

965
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: we're just going to play the percentages and we won't say, Hey,

966
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: if these guys can consistently beat us, what are you saying, Hey,

967
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: what's our best way to win this game? We don't

968
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: we don't go all out on stopping the run. And

969
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: we do that, somebody's gonna had a short end of

970
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: the stick. It's gonna be the corners. Y'all gonna have

971
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: to hand up, hold up in man and man coverage.

972
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: And if they consistently beat us man and man, you

973
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: tip your hat off, to tip your cap and say,

974
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: all right, they did it. So you just said, hey,

975
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: this is this is the process that we're going to take.

976
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with saying that the players that they

977
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: just gave a very nice, lucrative, long term extension to

978
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: is missed when he's not on the field.

979
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 4: Take me to the other player, because I was a

980
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: role player too.

981
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: So I don't want people to say, yeah, Colin Kettle here,

982
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: but this is.

983
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: A different team when Jerry McLaury is healthy and standing

984
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: out there as opposed to not being out there.

985
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: We're going to We're gonna even even if we say

986
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: hey we're gonna stop the run, we're going to be

987
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: forced to play you totally different. We got a healthy debo, salam,

988
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: you got healthy other proven playmakers that have done it

989
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: a course over the career. I'm gonna have to maybe

990
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: there'll have to be some change. We can't we know

991
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: we can't cover this gal man and man in critical situations.

992
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: We'll have to change our defense. We might have to

993
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: play a little bit more zone in certain situations, we

994
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: don't have to do a little thing. We might have

995
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: to spy Jana because we want to play man, but

996
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: we also need to need to provide a little bit

997
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: more safety of so it's just a different structure.

998
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: I think it just goes back to like if you

999
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of summer that we're going to

1000
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: be in these jumbo packages all the time. It's happening

1001
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: because they're trying to adjust to what they have and

1002
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: the best way they think they can win, and then

1003
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: when they start to get some of these other players

1004
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: back for them, they may adjust back in a different way.

1005
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: What is that adjustment period look like, I don't know,

1006
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: And that's why I would just kind of say I

1007
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: think the offense has performed very well, with the exception

1008
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: of the turnovers. That's the part that's unacceptable, But like,

1009
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: I think it's performed very well considering the circumstances that

1010
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: all of the changing things and night they hit a

1011
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: team that had a couple weeks to prepare for it,

1012
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: and it'd seen them do this for a couple of weeks,

1013
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: and unfortunately guys like Terry and Noah weren't ready to return,

1014
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: and frankly, you know, like Deebo's not one hundred percent

1015
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: running out there. So I think they've done a really

1016
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: nice time, which goes back to I think they did

1017
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: enough to win. I don't think the offense played all

1018
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: that poorly. The turnovers are the rough thing that just

1019
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of can't happen, especially one at the end of

1020
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: a game when you're trying to win. But overall, like

1021
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: I'd ask it again, twenty four points, never got a

1022
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: short field, never got to take away in their favor,

1023
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: like missed a field goal, like they very well. To me,

1024
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they played poorly last night. I think

1025
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: they did the best that they could. Even as we're

1026
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: talking about that the matchup wasn't great for them, and

1027
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: the Bears adjusted and said, you're not going to run

1028
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: the ball on us the way that you've run the

1029
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: ball on other teams.

1030
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: This is one of those things like I usually go

1031
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: through in grade every play and give it like agreed,

1032
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 3: if it's good yellow, if it's neutral, red, it's positive. Right,

1033
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: So in a game like this at enough time because

1034
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: we got back at three am or whatever, but this

1035
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: would be a game where it's like there's a lot

1036
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: of green in the ledger, but the red plays are

1037
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: very red, you know what I'm saying. And I think, like,

1038
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: not all plays, not like play one through six, You're

1039
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: not the same, you know, And so like understanding that

1040
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: as a fan of this team, like you say, oh,

1041
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: they played really well except for the turnovers or except

1042
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: like those are the things that characterize this game. It's

1043
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: like Kwan Martin had a really good game outside of

1044
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: one play, and that play was a big play. And

1045
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: so to me, that is kind of the narrative of

1046
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: this game. It's like, god, man, great job on Roma

1047
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: dunesday covering that wheel route. You're one on one with

1048
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: their number one receiver. Great job fitting this run stiffing

1049
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: out there like great, great, great, But the play that

1050
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: you missed counts for a little bit more because of

1051
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: how it happened. And I've had plays like that, like

1052
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: I've had fumbles, I've had sacks given up that have

1053
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: changed the complexion of the game. And like I tell

1054
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: this story all the time, I had a game versus

1055
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: the Giants in thirteen where it was the highest graded

1056
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: game in my career. Bumble in two minutes and they

1057
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: picked it up and went back and scored. And so

1058
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: the coach came up to me after and was like,

1059
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 3: not all players are created equal, and he just left

1060
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: it at that, and I was like, shit, you know

1061
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like, yeah, and that's that. That to

1062
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 3: me is this game in a nutshell.

1063
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: So let me get your reaction to what London and

1064
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: I were talking about at the beginning, which was clearly

1065
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: it was they beat themselves in some ways by the

1066
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: mistakes that occurred, you know, the fumble at the end

1067
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: of the game, the you know, the touchdown that was

1068
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: given up to Swift, a missed field goal, to other turnovers,

1069
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: one in the red zone, not getting a takeaway once again,

1070
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: four and six, fourth, fourth time and six games as

1071
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: it happened for them. Otherwise, this maybe isn't a one

1072
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: point loss. Maybe it's one of those where they won,

1073
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: but you go, hey, if they'd cleaned it up, they

1074
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: would have won. Buy more like one of those type

1075
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: of things. It's a tough gut it's a gut punch,

1076
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: like a total gut punch. So what are you thinking

1077
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: about in the locker room after something like that?

1078
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: I mean, exactly that man, It's like it's I've we've

1079
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: fledged an. I have been on teams that have played

1080
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: games like this where you've just given it to them,

1081
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: and it's so frustrating because you want to blame somebody else,

1082
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: You're looking for some reason, but it's it's right here.

1083
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: And I think that as a player, that's how I

1084
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: felt in these moments. It was just like, man, we

1085
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: just did that all to ourselves, right, And I think

1086
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: that makes it worse because sometimes you can you're in

1087
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: a game and you're like, man, you know that DeMarcus

1088
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 3: Ware over there, that TJ WHT, Like he's way better

1089
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: than me. Like I'm gonna tip my hat. Good game.

1090
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of weeks ago to coach.

1091
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: I'm was supposed to be the help, but I need some.

1092
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: Help, yeah right right.

1093
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, Bajan had this big game.

1094
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: People were calling people out. They go, that guy's the

1095
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: best player in the NFL. Watch what happened last.

1096
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: Night with what he did, and so that's I think

1097
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: that that's that's why this and I today it hurts

1098
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: so much more because it's like there's nobody to blame

1099
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: but the people in the locker room and that's that's hard.

1100
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Speaker 3: And I've been there, and Fletch's been there, and you

1101
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: just got to sit that, you know, eat that each each,

1102
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: your each, your medicine, and say how do we learn

1103
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 3: from these moments? And I think the cool thing, quite honestly,

1104
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: is that Jane Daniel gets the podium last night and

1105
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: says like I just have to be more aware and

1106
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: like to take that ownership immediately after is shows a

1107
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: lot of maturity on his part.

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00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a short week a good thing or

1109
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: a bad thing for them this week.

1110
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Well, it's good from the standpoint you get an opportunity

1111
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: to play a football game quickly hopefully get this hour

1112
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 2: taste out of your mouth. But the preparation, obviously Monday

1113
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: night football and you're about to get on a road,

1114
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: it condesces things. It's it's a little bit added another

1115
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: element to the preparation. But Dick had the guys ready

1116
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: to play. That's that's the great thing about it. They

1117
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: will have it. They will have the guys ready to

1118
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: play football.

1119
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's I think it's good.

1120
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: Like I said, if I'm if I'm them, and I'm

1121
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: just speaking from my own experience, like I want to

1122
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: play as soon as possible to get to actualize all

1123
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: the corrections that we're going to make from this game,

1124
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: all the learning that's happened, and go show that that

1125
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 3: isn't us necessarily right.

1126
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: How about it being a rivalry game? Does that matter

1127
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 4: here too, Dallas?

1128
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: Probably helpful?

1129
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: I would think absolutely. Oh yeah, as you know them

1130
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: really well? Yeah, you hell you know them. And this

1131
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: game is gonna be hyped up for a twenty five game.

1132
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: Majority of the country's going to see it because this

1133
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: has always been historically one of the best rivalries in sport,

1134
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 2: not just football.

1135
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: And listen, their record's worse than Washington's. They just lost

1136
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: to Carolina. They've given up a ton of points. They're

1137
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: hearing it down there too.

1138
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 3: They've been scoring a ton of points. They've been scored

1139
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: a ton of points.

1140
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is a big week for

1141
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: both of these teams to prove something, which is, you know, honestly,

1142
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: the only way I'd want to see it anyway, in

1143
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: Washington Dallas game where both teams have a lot on

1144
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: the line.

1145
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but it's at that point of the

1146
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 3: year where everybody's got a lot online. It's like kind

1147
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: of you get to that point where you, like I

1148
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: heard Flett say this, it's like you got to start

1149
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: stringing some games together, and everybody's feeling that. Everybody's goal

1150
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 3: is to go to the dance, get to the show,

1151
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: and now's the time you got to start winning some games,

1152
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: stacking them up. And again they're feeling that same thing.

1153
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 3: And when that's happening, like that leads to some good football.

1154
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: One of the things that was happening on the road

1155
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: hopefully won't happen this weekend. Slow starts. They've been out

1156
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: scored twenty seven to nothing in the first quarters of

1157
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: the previous road games. Last night thirteen nothing bears. I

1158
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: think it was London and I were talking about I

1159
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: think it's a little different this time. I was going

1160
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: to say the offense was slow starting, slow starting, slow starting.

1161
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: On that made a good point, was that he's like,

1162
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: it wasn't really a slow start because they you know, they.

1163
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: Drove the foot all time.

1164
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, earlier it was it.

1165
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: Was herned it over.

1166
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just talk about energy then and a better start.

1167
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: Which what do you think is attributing to this repeating

1168
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: over and over?

1169
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: Because if you get you get points off that first drive. Yeah,

1170
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: you're at a Bears. They got three points and we

1171
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: get sad when we get three points and you're not

1172
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: looking at it. A slow start, finish, go ahead? What

1173
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: do you think?

1174
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: How do they How do you go about trying to

1175
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: start fast? Because the score was what the score was

1176
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: again last night?

1177
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: Make plays?

1178
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1179
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: Is that okay to say?

1180
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: It's also a situation where you can't press. You can't

1181
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: start pressing because if you try to press and create

1182
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: a turnover, I'm going to force a turnover. That's when

1183
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: you give up big plays. That's when you have blown assignments,

1184
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: when you try to do more than what you're supposed

1185
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: to do. The plays will come. Do your job and

1186
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: do your job well.

1187
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, trust it man. I think that's a great point

1188
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: because I think about what Joe Junior said about not

1189
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 3: wearing capes, and I think that is It sounds so silly,

1190
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: but it's like the most perfect analogy for football. Like

1191
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: you're not one person trying to make yourself look good.

1192
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: You're one of eleven playing together. So like the offensive lineman,

1193
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: don't overreach. If you got a chiphelt, make sure you're

1194
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: chipping defensively, right, I don't need to press for this pick.

1195
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: If I just make the tackle, we live to play

1196
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 3: another down. We got a lot of reps in the game.

1197
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm a part of a bigger ecosystem, and I think

1198
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: like that. If they can do that, I think they're

1199
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: gonna be okay. They're going to be a tough out

1200
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: every single week. It just can everybody commit to that

1201
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: and own that, I think would be the thing I

1202
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: would point to.

1203
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that Dallas's record will allow to have

1204
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: Dak in this conversation yet, but he's playing like a

1205
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: potential MVP to this point. He's really he's lightening it up.

1206
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield probably that conversation. Bijond, especially with

1207
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: the numbers he's posting, is probably in that conversation now.

1208
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: But I don't know how much you've seen a Dak

1209
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: so far, but he's had an incredible start to his season.

1210
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: So what are you thinking about defensively as you try

1211
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: to handle the Cowboys this week?

1212
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: As I'm looking at the Cowboys. First of all, you

1213
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: mentioned Dak, and he is just making all kind of plays.

1214
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: He has so much confidence and his ability not just

1215
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: in structure, like getting the ball out when they're supposed

1216
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: to be but even out of the pocket, some of

1217
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 2: the throws that he's made down the field. Man, he's

1218
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: trusting his guys. And it's not just Ceedee, Lamb and Piggys.

1219
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: They've been some other like.

1220
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 3: Secondary Larry Many, Larry, I love it.

1221
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got that word from you, and I got

1222
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: the new word. I'm about to go back and get

1223
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: that research it. But he's playing with so much confidence

1224
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: and he realizes they realize this too. We're probably in

1225
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: order to win football games, were don't have to score

1226
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: thirty to thirty five points per game, So they going

1227
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: to the each game with that mindset. So they're going

1228
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: to be aggressive.

1229
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love the way their offense is designed.

1230
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: There's a lot of really quarterback friendly concepts. And Doak

1231
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: is feeling himself like ripping seams, deep digs fifty to fifties,

1232
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: like he's playing really good like and you mentioned like MVP.

1233
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: It definitely feels like he's playing at that level at

1234
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: the moment. And so when you're playing a quarterback who's

1235
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 3: feeling themselves like that, it's really to me about surviving

1236
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: the big plays. Mike defending every blade of grass. So

1237
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: hopefully the defense can kind of get that together.

1238
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: And you saw what the Bears did last night, you

1239
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: talked about potentially replicating it defensively.

1240
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 4: Do you think Dallas can? Can they do that to

1241
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 4: Washington's offense?

1242
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think anybody can as long as

1243
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: you feel comfortable with your man guys on the perimeter,

1244
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: like then you can do it. And and Digs.

1245
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out that they trust Bland and

1246
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: Digs the way DQ Joe Whitt used to trust them down.

1247
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: But it's planning Diggs. But it's also like who's going

1248
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: to match up with zach Ertz? Who's going to match

1249
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 3: up you know what I'm saying, Like it all maths

1250
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: up there, because like you can find a matchup in

1251
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: man and man covered.

1252
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: If I if I recall correctly. So Matt Eberfus is

1253
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: their defensive and I believe he's not really a high blitz.

1254
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: He is a big cover three guy, like old school

1255
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: cover three soft zone ben but don't break. So he

1256
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: hasn't really done a lot of that, but you know,

1257
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: the formula has been laid out.

1258
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: So and then they don't have the benefit of a

1259
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: bye week.

1260
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: That's true. That's a good point. That's a great point.

1261
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: They just watched our game Monday night, and they've already

1262
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: probably they already put some of their game plan in

1263
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: prior to even seeing our game Monday night. So al

1264
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: dn't go on all of a sudden say, hey, deezer,

1265
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: these are the things we wanted.

1266
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: To special If you know major in them, it's going.

1267
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: To right exactly, Ken, Do we have a guys that

1268
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: can get this done?

1269
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: And he's notorious for kind of sticking to his thing,

1270
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: which is like these softer zone coverages. Yeah, I think

1271
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: they could physically do it if they wanted to. I

1272
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: just I don't know if he is a guy that's

1273
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: gonna make that transition.

1274
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 4: All right, we'll get over it fast.

1275
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: Take a flight down to Dallas, get ready for an

1276
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: annual visit to the Big d take on the Cowboys,

1277
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: and that will do it for the Booth Review.

1278
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next Monday.

1279
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1281
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,200
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