WEBVTT - RHOC Reunion (Pt. 1) Recap with Kate Casey 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:04.920 Hey, rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:11.120 You can buy your allegedly and my Voice mugs, T shirts, 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:16.280 rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:17.479 dot com. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.320 That's right. Get your hoodies, your T shirts, and. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:28.240 Your mugs all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome to 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.159 Reality to King. It's me Carlos Kings, the King of 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.600 Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:41.000 producers in reality television with over ten years of production experience. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.080 Twice a week on Reality with the Kings, we'll sit 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.919 down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.120 favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:58.280 still talking and tweeting about. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:00.920 Ray Drop. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.320 She's here and, in the words of Caroline from Polta, guys, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:12.760 she's bad. I'm here with my friend, y'all favorite. She 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.760 is the one who y'all love when we recap. She 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.680 is Mike Virgin of Kelly Rippa and I'm her Marcus 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.400 Filas give it all, casey baby. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.080 Would we have a passionate marriage if we were together 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.280 and straight? But I mean, I'm straight, but you're not 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.360 so if we wait. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.600 Those straight listen, I think at the end of the day, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:39.080 we have a passionate dinner conversations, We'll have passionate shopping experiences. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.800 You will be smiling from air to air for the 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:42.679 rest of your life. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.160 Would you be satisfied? Not sure? 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.120 Yeah, I have to tell you that as a as 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.640 a girlfriend, wife, I hate when someone's like, can you 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.440 come and sit down and rub my arm and like 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.680 pay attention to me that I'm a girlfriend. That our 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.800 wife who's like, I'm really busy right now, she's take 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.720 a chase. You have to chase me, you know what 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:03.040 I mean? 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:04.840 What's your sign, Kate? 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.519 Oh, I know with like a heisty's rising moon or something. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.400 So that means I'm like, I'm a fiery person, but 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.320 can be empathetic. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:17.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah no. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.640 And the thing is, you are a woman who is 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.760 so self assured about yourself. Yes, like you know you 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.560 and no one else can tell Kate Kasey, Who the 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.200 fuck Kate Casey is. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:33.640 Back the fuck off? Yeah, you're damn right. That's why we're. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:34.280 Getna lock so well. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.919 So, Kate, we have a lot to catch up on, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.119 uh before we get into part one. Of the Real 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.800 Housewives of Ors County reunion. I want to do some 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.840 housekeeping with a few housewife franchises and just to get 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.600 your thoughts on it. The first thing first, it was 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:55.240 recently revealed that The Real Housewives of Dubai is on 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.799 Paul's after two seasons. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:02:59.440 Mm hmm. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:01.480 Are you surprised. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.360 No. I think it's a real snooze fest. But I 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.760 also think that the industry is scrambling right now. No 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.560 one's buying shows, no one's making shows. I think that 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:15.080 we're probably going to see more stuff like Q three 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.120 A twenty twenty five. They're still trying to catch up 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.520 from COVID, you know, and listen, we're in a social 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.360 media landscape where people create their own reality shows on 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.760 TikTok for up to ten minutes. I have been telling 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.440 my friends that work behind the scenes, and they think 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.400 I'm crazy. I would if you can't get a job 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.960 on a TV show, I would have influencers pay you 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.960 to create their reality shows. That's the future. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.280 Smart like business model. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.400 Yeah, that's what I would do. Or I would be 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.040 you know, I would work with like athletes who to 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:50.360 for them to curate their own media channels. Professional athletes. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:51.080 That's what I would do. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.480 No, it's super smart because listen, kay, you're accurate at 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.560 somebody whose job is to create shows, as I on 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.040 my own production company. It is the sort of crisis 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.920 that's going on to where networks aren't buying in volume 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.280 like they used to, and you're seeing that with one 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.280 program airing and then after it goes off, it's just 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.480 a bunch of repeats, whereas back in our day you 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.920 could watch the real house spots at Billy Hills, then 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.680 that had the pump rules, then another show, then the 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.680 watch What Happens Live. You're lucky if you get anything 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.000 to air after a show that comes on a nine 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.719 o'clock It is a crisis. And when it comes to buy, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.920 what I have heard is the fact that it's a 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.920 very expensive show, which. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.240 Is no surprising anybody question. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.920 Yeah, is an international show, unlike other shows in different 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.840 cities where you have a local crew and it's not 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.600 that expensive to fly a crew member to do pickups, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:54.279 to do interviews when the season raps. Imagine flying producers 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.440 and a camera crew to the buy after the season 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.760 raps to do interviews like it's not cost effective. Not 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:09.480 only that the show unfortunately never met its mark. And 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.279 I have to be honest with you, Kate, I haven't 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:13.680 watched any of season two. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.560 It was a snooze fest. Yeah it was snoozy. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.280 Yeah, what what went wrong? 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.159 You think in terms of people not really being engaged 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.560 with that show, I. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.240 Don't think you felt like there were authentic friendships. I 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.600 don't think their their stories were that compelling. I think 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:34.520 they leaned into watch into dumb fights, and I wanted 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.640 to see more about their culture. If you're going to 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.719 go a different pocket of the world with the completely 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.520 different viewpoint of lifestyle, culture, et cetera, like lean into that. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.240 I want to see what makes their what is their 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.400 day like? Where do they go shopping, what do the 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.400 grocery stores look like? Where do they hang out? And 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.719 they focused on like like Potomac. I felt like for 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.039 many seasons it was just like fighting at a dinner table. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.919 I think they adopted that and they lost what really 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.200 makes each franchise so unique and special. You know how 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.240 you one time said to me, Real Housewives the Salt 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.560 Lake City could be called Real Housewives of Sedona and 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.560 I wouldn't know any different. Yes, it's like that with 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.640 Dubai and what a shame if you're going to go 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:16.960 all the way to that part of the world. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:26.520 No, it is so true. And speaking of Salt Lake City. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.040 I haven't watched this season, so this week in Kate, 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.120 one of my rain drops, tweeted me and said, you 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.640 have to watch this season. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.160 Bron When is killing it. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.039 And I've seen clips online of Brama being great, and 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.440 I was like, let me just watch it. I tried 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.120 to watch it, Kate. In fifteen minutes, I cut it 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.160 back off. And I think it's because what you said. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.320 I feel like that. Listen, this is my opinion. This 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.400 is my opinion. When I'm watching Salt Lake City. I 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.560 was watching an episode that aired two weeks ago because 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.080 I want to catch up in at least bench three. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:03.520 And it was when, oh my god, this is so bad. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.920 Was Angie Angie k was throwing some like party whether 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.080 it being was like the Greek. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.240 Gangster something mafia, Yeah. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.440 And then you had like this mafia guy walking to 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.040 the door putting up wanted signs and I was like, 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:24.240 this does not happen in real life, Nobody, Okay, I'm 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:25.200 going to tell you what happens. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.800 And then this the episode after this is why you're 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.000 gonna hang on for just with one one finger on 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.720 the cliff. Okay, Okay, Bronwyn is married to this older guy, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.160 and we know that Bronwyn had a daughter when she 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.600 was like nineteen. That birth father said, I'm out. She 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.440 had some meeting with the grandparents, and the grandparents and 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.200 the birth father were like, we don't want you to 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.119 have the baby, I think, sadly, a situation that happens 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.600 a lot in this country. So she decided to be 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.560 a single mother. That birth father died I think two 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.080 years later. She her daughter has never known anyone in 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.520 the birth father's family. So because or So, she goes 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.000 to the airport after the trip with Lisa Barlowe and 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.280 they're sitting in at the airport. It's not filmed, we talk. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:11.000 We hear about this later they figure out that Lisa's 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.560 Lisa's family is close friends with the birth father's family. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.840 So She's like, no, they're really good people and you 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.720 should get to know them. And Bron's like, really, because 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.400 they have not helped me raise my child at all, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.920 so they can suck it. So, because she's frustrated, she 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.760 projects her frustration with that family onto Lisa and that 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.960 spills over into this trip they take to Palm Springs. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.800 Now you know how they do this when they join 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:36.880 the show and they're like, we want to show you 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.200 how much money do we have. They take them on 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.160 a private jet which they rented probably, and they go 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.280 to Palm Springs and it says thirty thousand dollars a 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.000 night for this big home. And she's got this older 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.320 husband and she keeps telling us it's she's not a 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.200 gold digger. They've got this real love story. But he's 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:58.520 a total curmudgeon. And she and Lisa start fighting because 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.240 of the projection issues, and he walks in and tells 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.240 Lisa's husband that, you know, they got to stop fighting. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.080 We're going to have to go. But there's a scene 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.199 that's very Erica tom Girardi where Curmudge and husband goes 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.360 into the kitchen and he's like, I don't like this. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.080 I don't And the way she looks at the floor, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:20.000 you're like, oh, there's a lot to unpack. Also should 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.360 note they pull this pretty woman scene where they have 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.240 a jewelry person drive up from la to the Palm 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.640 Springs rental to show them two pieces of jewelry, one 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.080 a pair of diamond earrings and a diamond necklace with 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.760 the price tag of four million dollars. Yeah, there's a 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.880 lot of unpack You're like, are you a gold digger? 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.360 What's going on with your marriage? Did you marry Tom Girardi? 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.000 Why are you so angry at Lisa? Why did you 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.319 get this rentaled? Can you guys actually reford this? Are 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.160 you spending way too much money? And what's really going 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.160 on with your husband? And did you do this al 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.800 La Camille Grammar because you want a life after this 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.000 marriage goes to put see. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.840 Okay, So my thing is this lead with that as 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:03.680 somebody who is a housewife fanatic. I am I'm not 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:09.160 interested in this sort of like caricature of how you know, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.920 a mafia bodyguard pulls up the people's homes and least 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.080 wanted posters on their door. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.920 I don't think I think it makes you realize the 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.480 angie it doesn't really have much. She just like she 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.559 just can't be over the top outfits. That's it. That's 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:21.520 all she's giving to the show. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.400 I'm not interested. What I am interested is exactly what 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.440 Kate said. So if you lead with that, you'll have. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.520 Someone like Carlos King talk about your show on Twitter 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.280 and on my podcast, because that's the ship that I 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:35.640 want to watch. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.079 Yeah, real story, personal. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.480 Story, which is what you and I love. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:44.040 Yeah, Victory's triumphs, pain, bitterness, regret. 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.040 Okay, it's okay. Because of you, I'm gonna tap back 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:47.600 into it. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.040 Yeah you know do you're gonna. I just need you 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.560 to watch last week's Episode's I want to go back 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.240 to square one. You don't need to. It's like a 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.319 soap opera. You dip in and you go, I got it. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.160 I don't need to go you know what I mean? 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.199 The General Hospital. You haven't seen it for twenty years, 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.360 and you know exactly what's going on exactly. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.840 You don't have to, like okay, So my mistake was 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.160 I was trying to like watch previous episodes before last week, 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.120 so like, no, it's like General Hospital. Just catch up 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:16.959 and in two months it's the same shit. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.959 Got it, same got it? 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:18.320 Yeah? 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.360 Okay, okay, So I'll watch that tonight and I'll report 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.960 back to you. Now we have to get into the 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.480 Real Housewives of New York City. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:34.760 Why that's a born show too. I mean why I 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.280 was seen with like Jenna Lyons in a closet with 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.800 her girlfriend's mother. I can't see the girlfriend. I don't 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.680 see any of her friends. I don't go to work 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.720 with her. Why why is she on the show? What's happening? 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:47.360 I want to ask you this? 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.000 And what's going on with Abe and Aaron Ave and Aaron. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.079 I feel like they're going to be Slitzville. Uh, Jessel, 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.440 I love j justl's a person, but I don't like 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.760 her on the show because she's like acting. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:11:59.200 They're all acting. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.960 To me, it feels like bad auditions, Like all of 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.000 them are auditioning to be on Merro's place. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.520 It's over acting. It's horrible. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.280 You are a woman who lives in Orange County prior 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.520 to this show, did you have any idea who jenn 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:14.200 Alliance was? 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.040 Yes? I did. I'm a nerd. I actually interview. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:19.880 Well. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.520 She also like she had a documentary series which was 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.360 excellent on HBO that was more her speed. It was 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.160 about her business. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:29.360 So she needs to be a shark tank. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.280 Yeah, this is not This is not the place for her. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.680 She also is with somebody who doesn't want to be 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.439 on TV, just like the girl Braun went on Real 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.880 Housewives of Salt Lake City. Like you brought your curmudge 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.640 and husband who doesn't want a film? Why are you 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:43.160 on the show? 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.360 And more importantly, why were they let on this show 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:48.160 knowing that? 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.679 Thank you? Okay, can we jump? And then we need 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.040 to jump for one second to real housewis Orange County 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.160 Because Katie, I feel like that was a casting miss step, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.840 and I'll tell you why. Because she can't talk about 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.520 the previous relationship with the ex husband, which sounds very volatile. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.120 So then it leaves room for people to start poking 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.280 at your stories because you can't tell the full story 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.760 because it's too legally complicated. I don't I think that's 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.199 a swing in a miss You can't do that. You're 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.520 gonna have somebody to tell the story about, like a 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.520 previous marriage which ended with children living in other states. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.359 You have to tell the full story. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.840 One, one hundred percent. So let's get right in two bays. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.600 Oh say so, if we're going to recap right now, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.960 Salt Lake City, I'm gonna watch last week's episode today Dubai. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.440 We're not surprised and we don't think the show deserves 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:38.920 to come back. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.560 Sorry, I love I love the girls. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.120 Caroline Stanbury should move back to London and do the 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.120 Ladies or a Real Housewives of DC excuse me, Real 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.800 Housewives of London film or a show that they're filming. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.040 They're just going to be on HEYU because literally no 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.680 one's buying stuff, So that's where it's going to go to. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:13:58.960 Hey you. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.120 I agree with you, Kate. And when it comes to 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.480 the Royal House wash of New York City, I strongly 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.960 believe this would be their last season. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:14.120 I'm gonna go with yeah, yep, last one. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.840 And and let me know if you agree with me. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:21.000 I think with the failure of this reboot, they're not 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.200 going to reboot Jersey in this magnitude. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:26.880 I hope not. I think it's bad. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:28.480 Agreed. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:29.600 Yeah. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.640 At this point, Carlos King exclusive it kay Casey gets 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.680 it first because the Royal House Wasp of New York 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:41.880 City is Michael Jackson bad like horrible. This this reboot 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.240 is not great, Carlos, Kate is telling the world exclusively. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.040 I do not want Jersey to suffer and I would 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.200 rather live for another season of Teresa Melissa on Jersey. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.400 Thank you, Danny Plagreno said to me last week, and 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.840 I think he's right. What they should have done was 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.360 keep leg see and thrown in some new people that 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.280 may have worked. It's but whatever, Listen, we can't fix 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:05.640 the world. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:06.920 We can't fix the world. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.760 But what we can't fix is what's going on on 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:10.680 the OC reunion. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.480 So let's get right into it. Let's talk about Katie. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:21.040 Yeah, Katie is a mystery to me, and they did 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:21.560 a great well. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:21.960 Listen. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.880 I felt like Emily Simpson was the host of the 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.280 reunion because the way she sort of hijacked Andy C 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.680 and his microphone and his que cards. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.680 I don't know what Emily was on. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.200 I don't know if Emily was told that she had 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:41.520 to give tons of commentary or her job was in jeopardy. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.200 But Emily to me, and I like Emily a lot, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:45.240 and I thought, Jedda. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.560 I'm gonna tell you what happened, she was insufferable. Go ahead, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:49.600 let's tell you what happened. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:49.960 Wow. 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:54.200 I think that they all get mad when certain people 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.120 get attention where they're like this fool. You guys love 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.520 her and why so you think she got mad about 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.600 the Jennifer stuff because she's saying he's totally fine, he 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.160 got immunity. But she's a Dodo brain and doesn't really understand, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.440 and so I think Emily jumped in because she's like, oh, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:14.000 you're seriously never gonna address this. So it's like two things. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.200 It's like Andy doesn't want to like go too into 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.200 it too much because it's a legal issue that has 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.920 that is off the show right right, So there's only 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.160 so much you can do as a host. So we're 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.480 gonna throw him some flowers. But Emily's probably also mad. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.280 This is what my assumption is, and I think I'm 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.680 always right, is that they all get mad when the 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.840 show airs and they think, oh, everyone's gonna hate that person, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.560 and then when they get praised, they're like, oh, no, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.560 this shit's not happening on my watch. Because they've been 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.640 on the show for years and they go through seasons 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.200 where they're like, everyone's gonna love me, and then they 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.520 hate them, and then they're like, you're gonna take me 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.720 down for doing X y Z. But then we're gonna 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.160 let this fool get get through. What the show is 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.200 really about what happens off the show, And I think. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.360 That that's what's happening. No, I can say to you 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.000 A lot of people thought. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:09.840 That Katie Jen and Shannon were going to be disliked 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.879 this season Shannon courtesy of having a dui, Katie because 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.960 she's new and she does have a voice. And Jim 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.480 because you know, people think her boyfriend Ryan is like 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.600 a scammer. And what's been interesting is it totally flipped 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.640 the other way, like people love those three. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.640 Because everybody hates cameras so much. So if you hate 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.399 one person, then the pendulum has to swing back to 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.000 the other side. But you know, if you come back 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.760 next season and you don't take you take Alexis out, 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.760 that changes everything up. 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.399 Was Alexis a flop to you? 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:46.399 Yes? 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.960 Yeah? Why? Uh? 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.879 The only thing that I think she brought well, I 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.520 think in terms of like who is each person there, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.920 what's their singular story? And then how do they add value? 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:06.000 The only value they had is creating a television situation 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.400 where you see someone who has been on the show 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:13.200 for quite some time literally unravel, literally unravel on camera. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:18.399 It seemed very nasty, pointed, mean and conniving to do that. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.159 I didn't learn anything more about her personal story. I 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.280 would have liked to have her say, wow, some of 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.080 the things that I said when I was on the show, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.720 when I was with a seemingly misogynistic person. I do 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.200 not believe in that anymore. I have found my own power. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.320 Never addressed it. She just seems like she just got 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.840 a different relationship and took on that guy's personality. So 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.919 what have I learned about you? Where's the evolution? What 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.280 our value did you bring to the show as a 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:51.960 singular person and your evolution and as a cast member? 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.760 Like I think half the people were like, why are 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.720 you on the show. That's why I did like Emily 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.440 because she was like, you're dumb, dumb, and uh, I'm 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.960 not bringing I'm not here for what you're bringing. We 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:04.359 need that. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.080 Oh no, I know, I said to you. I loved 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.000 Emily up until this reunion part one. I want to 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.359 give her some grades part one. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:13.000 Part one. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.160 She did too much prior to part one, I said 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:19.600 my podcast, there was like this sort of like protest. 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.639 She's right, She's always like that. Emily always shows up 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:23.280 at the reunion. 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.240 Yeah, but I loved her so much this season because 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:29.960 I felt like she stepped in when she had to. 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.560 I love me. She read Alexis birth filth. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.119 I agree with you, I love it, she said, shut up, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:37.960 don't talk like I loved everything. 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.400 I listen. I like Alexus a lot. 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.400 I thought it was great that she was cast because 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.760 obviously she's dating John Janssen, and I want I want 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:46.920 to I want to see that story. 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:49.440 I believe two things happen. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.320 I'll give Alexus some grace in the sense of she's 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.560 a friend of and we are friend up to the show. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.720 You do not get as much airtime to tell your 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.040