WEBVTT - Some Time With... Larry Blumenthal! (Part 2) 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.080 Hey, everyone, Welcome to part two of our interview with 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.640 Larry Blumenthal. We can't wait to hear more about Larry's 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.280 extensive career as a camera operator and director of photography 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.520 and a wonderful composer, plus all the memories he's carried 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:32.840 from full and Fuller House. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.200 Here's Larry. One of the things that you are most 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.680 passionate about that you kind of touched on is music 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.800 and composing. And I know you did you minor in 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.160 like music composition in college where you did you kind 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.920 of do film and music and that was your I did. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.680 I got my film degree of course Sandigo State. But 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.960 I and I was always playing music. And I'm self 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.560 taught really as as far as composition and music theory 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.520 and all that. I did go to college for a 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:12.040 year and a half under the music program and and 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:19.760 found myself quote failing basic theory because the the I 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.680 had to take the class three or four times before 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.480 I finally passed. And it was only because the the 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.560 gall that was teaching you know, music theory one A 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.919 whatever was actually it was fifty nine A. I remember, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.920 was a real tight ass. I mean I saw I 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.760 saw her as being like a Catholic nun that was 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:38.520 in the wrong. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.520 Calling right right here, like this is not right. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.640 Ye, do you know what I mean? She was taking 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.240 notes on like whether you showed up and if you 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.480 were late, and all that crazy stuff and. 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.600 All of the worst things to do for any sort 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:54.960 of art class. Yeah, no one's going to feel creative 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:56.440 or beyond time or. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.520 I suppose supposed to be the rules. These are the 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.640 so called rules music theory. Let's remember it's it is 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:10.480 called theory. Yeah, And I was bored with that because 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.160 I'd already blurted. I mean, I already knew the intervals. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:14.960 I already with a circle of fifths was I already 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.240 knew all that stuff. So you know, it was frustrating 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.280 for me. But I did get through it, and I 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.800 got through the first couple of years. And I always 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:29.880 was always performing. I played wins, I played especially woodwinds, 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.880 and I still play on my sacks once in a while, 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.560 but you know, I was I played English horn, you know, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.400 the obo, clarinet, flute, you know, all the woodwinds, and 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.320 then you know, I even fumfered my way through a 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.200 couple of you know, trombone and baritone and even tried 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.560 playing the French ront a little bit, and I never 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.280 could do the trump very well. My mouth is the 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:54.560 wrong shape or something for the ambishure. But you know what, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:59.120 I didn't really focus on performance. I I did very well. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.639 I was actually won a state scholarship in California back 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.480 in high school as the so called best male musician. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.040 That's kind of weird, oh wow, you know. And so 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.000 that started my college career. And then I went out 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.280 for a recital. This is a true story. It was horrible. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.480 I went out for a saxophone recital at the end 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.160 of the I think it was my second or third year, 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:32.880 and I got a transcription of a flute sonata and 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:34.920 transferred so I could play it on the saxophone and 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.360 had a companist in the whole thing. And it was 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.400 always really fast, very fasted. I could learn the pedagogy 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.000 for almost any instrument. I could learn to play something 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:49.720 almost immediately, and I did not do any real practicing. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.840 And I went out there in front of about seven 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.800 hundred and fifty people in the recital hall, and everybody 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.160 was showing up because that this very guy is really good. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.760 He plays legitimate music on a sack. If you can imagine. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.200 And I went out there and I completely went white flash, 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.720 just like you were talking about just before we go 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:13.480 out to start the show, and I just I couldn't 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.920 do it. I couldn't. I couldn't pull it. I couldn't, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.359 I couldn't hear it. And I began to start, you know, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:20.600 you start cycling. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:21.960 Right then you're like, oh my god, what are you doing? 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.039 What are you And You're like, I can't be in 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.320 my head and you're like, but I can't not be 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.720 in my head and it's just you're like a a 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:27.680 horrible feeling. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.240 Yeah, And I looked over at the pianist and I 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.040 looked out at them and I said, folks, I am 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.360 not prepared and I'm very sorry. And I walked it 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.320 to the stage and that was the last time that 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:44.080 I had played my instrument for almost twenty five thirty years. Wow, 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.080 I was so and I went I went full bore 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.560 into just working in the film business. I'm no good 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.000 as a musician. I'm a loser. I'm completely you know, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.280 I mean, really, this is what I did to myself. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.159 The most beautiful thing happened about thirty years later. My 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:04.200 son was in the thousand Ks high school band and 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:10.320 the the instructor for his musical groups. His name was 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:17.279 William Haney Junior, an extraordinary musician, studio musician, virtually deaf 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.640 but able to play with the best of them. Played 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.120 behind Sammy Davis, and you know, you know, I mean, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:30.080 just unbelievable talent and just a really intelligent and kind musician. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:35.839 He drives to my house and he knocks on the door. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.040 He says, Larry, go get your horn. So what are 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.280 you talking about. You're coming with me, Go get your horn? 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.559 So I go out find it. You know, my sacks, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.880 I haven't touched it in years. Didn't know I any 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.360 he reads for it or what got in the car 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.920 with him. He drove us to one of the very 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.320 first rehearsals of what was then called the Gold Coast 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.560 Wind Ensemble, which was a bunch of amateur and professional 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:08.719 adults that played in a wind orchestra. No string except 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.599 for the string days, but all these instruments, about fifty people. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.280 And he says, I'm going to play the first part, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.359 you're playing second. I couldn't believe it. I was like, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.280 why are you doing this to me? I played in 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.200 that band for about two maybe three years and then 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.400 Bill couldn't do it anymore, and they bumped me up 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.040 to his spot. I'm playing all the solos, I'm doing 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.880 all this. I don't seen for like four or five years, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.440 and I played in the group for probably seven or 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.440 eight years after that, and I saw him again. And 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.279 the great Frederick Fannell. I don't know if you know 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.800 the history of him, but he basically was the inventor, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.479 if you will, or discover of the wind or the 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.080 wind orchestra, wind ensemble. He was at Eastman School of 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:58.440 Music and so forth, and a great arranger of all 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.440 of Suz's marches, clarifier of all of his music and 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.120 so forth. Anyway, Frederick Vanilla is a very very important name. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:06.720 He was still a love at the time, and he 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.400 was coming as a guest conductor. And we were at 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.560 the Thousand Oaks whatever they call. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.080 That, performing arts whatever. Yeah, yeah, and. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:21.280 We're playing Lincolnshire Posey, which is by Percy Grainger. It's 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.440 a very important work and there's all these great solos 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.760 in it, you know, for Alto Sacks. And here I'm 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.160 playing and there were Frederick Vanelle and I'm playing this 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.440 and whatever. And it turns out Bill Hayney was there, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.600 you know, and he comes out and to see me, goes, Larry, 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.320 I knew, I've always known you have the soul of 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.840 a musician, and look at what you did tonight. And 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.160 it was all because he did. He drove up to 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.320 my house and dragged me out and said do this. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.880 Back at that time, George Bush was running for president, 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:10.720 not junior, but people, yeah, og the original and the 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.960 Iraq War is about to break out, the very first one. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.480 So all of the musicians for the Marine band, air 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.640 Force band, or any of those that are official were gone. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.720 They were deployed. They were on their way into war basically. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.440 So when he came into a thousand Ogs, the Secret 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.120 Service contacted the high school band there, which of course 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.400 Bill's banned one thousand excellancers. They were one of the 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.400 top high school bands in the in state by far. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.880 And he says, Larry, I can't do it. I have 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.480 engagements that I hate, can't break. So I give them 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:49.959 your name and they're going to come talk to you. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.679 Secret Service comes to my house. They talked to me. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.560 So I took my sons one hundred and fifty piece 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:03.400 high school band two the assembly with Pete Wilson and 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.680 all this over at Calkel Africa, the named cal Lutheran 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:13.760 College in Thousand Oaks, and they played for the everybody 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.920 there just as performance. I was their conductor and then 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.720 we played Held to the Chief when of course the right. Wow, 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.839 this is a story, it's a true story. I'm sorry that. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.800 What else do we know that's played, that's conducted of 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.319 the orchestra for the president. I don't know anybody. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.280 They didn't know that was going to happen to me, 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.640 but it did happen. It was amazing. And so I'm 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.880 standing there after he comes in and I had an 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.760 earwork from the from a secret service gave me an 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:52.080 earwick and so I'm standing there in my suit. All 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.599 the kids are standing behind me in their uniforms, and 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.439 literally two armed stretches in front of me sits the 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.880 President in his chair. He's right in front of me. Wow. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.960 And I'm supposed to be there. Pete Wilson and all 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:13.439 these other you know political you know cats are there 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.360 and I'm not part of their party, but you know, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.240 it didn't matter that he was the president. It was 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:24.000 just exactly exciting. And it was at that particular rally 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.840 for Pete Wilson. I guess it was that the president 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:33.480 himself gave the the line in the Sand speech. That's 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:34.800 where it was, that's what's from there. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:35.480 Wow. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:37.839 And he gives a speech and then he comes and 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.240 sits back down because everyboy's clapping, and he's basically saying, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.240 you know, he's telling him that Iam is saying at 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:50.800 the it's all going to be pretty bad. Well, he 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.439 sits down and you could tell he was kind of 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.360 like pumped from the speech himself, and he's getting bored 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:02.200 because Pete Wilson's not talking and he's kind of looking 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.160 around the room. And then he turns around and goes 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.280 like this, and he looks right at me. He's looking 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.079 at the band and my son's in the group, so 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.880 I was proud of that. And he looks at me 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.719 and he points his finger like come over here. And 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:23.280 I've been told, under no circumstances, do right stand there, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.559 don't do a damn thing, and douce, we tell you to. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.439 But he's a president of the United States. He's just 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:34.000 told me to come over there. So I go, I'm thinking, well, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.800 what can they do? Put me in jail, I guess, 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.559 but he is the president, and out of respect for 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.679 who he is. He's the leader of my country, I 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.240 mean in the whole the you know, known western free world. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:51.559 I'm not gonna right, I'm busy, So I walked over 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.880 up behind him. I hear, in my your record he's 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.439 going in. He's going in. It's in my ear right, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.439 and I kind of lean over his left shoulder and 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:08.679 George he goes, what is this the college band? I said, no, no, sir, 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.199 this is a local high school band. He goes, what 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.559 are you serious? I said, yeah, they're very good, and 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.040 their normal instructor I'm just filling in he couldn't make 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:25.439 it today. But their instructor is really really great, and 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:30.400 they're an excellent band. He goes, well, you make me proud. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.400 They sound better than the Marine Corps band. He says, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.000 you know what, I want to shake your hand, and 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.719 it turned it over and he grabs my hand and 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.679 I don't know if you can see this visually, but 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.719 the presidential hand. She goes like this. He puts his 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.079 hand around your wrist and then they shake like that. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.920 I'm sure Secret Service teaches them that, so that should 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.199 should something happen, right, He's got control of a circumstance. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.880 But you know, I went to shake his he did that, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.680 and I shook his hand because you're doing a fine job. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.800 Keep up the great work. This is what America really 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.520 is about. And my estimation of him went up like 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:16.280 three thousand percent just from his by being real, like 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.959 you know, and and even under all the pressure that 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.559 was going on in the world at the time, he 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.520 was able to look into some high school kids and 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.160 hear the music and or the death of Pete and 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.400 all other silliness, and and he had that connection to 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.280 his soul right that he was to recognize that. And 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.160 so this is the weirdest thing. Then what happened is 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.560 on CNN when the war broke out, because at storm started, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:53.600 they were on CNN commonly cut to shots of Tarique 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:59.000 Disease kissing Santa Museain's ring right right in the one hand, 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.280 and then go to a file video of the president 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.960 from the speech that he took with me standing right 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.360 beside him. So I had my zelleg moment for about 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:14.640 six months. Wow, it was the freakiest damp thing. I mean, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.760 the first time happened, I was almost half asleep taking 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:21.600 a hass I thought, that's me it's me and the 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.920 president two shot over there. You know, I'm over his shoulder, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:32.240 and I'm like the weirdest. So it's a weird life. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.200 It's a weird life in a redemption story. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.840 From your stage fright in front of seven hundred and 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.280 fifty people in the early days, to standing next to 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:45.000 the President getting photographed before the chief because. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.760 Bill Hayney decided to drive a buy one day and say, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.040 you know what, get in the car well started. I'm sorry. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.400 I to this day am thankful to him for that. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.560 And he is the one that has given me probably 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:02.480 the best critique of all the classical compositions that I've done. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.120 I did my third symphony, which is Slava Ukrainy, which 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:11.920 is you know about Ukraine, and he did a literally adossiate. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.240 He broke down. He actually listened to it moment by moment, 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.640 explaining what the transitions were, and this is a csarah, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.320 and this is a and you did an imperfect blah 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.320 blah blah. You know, you just all these things about 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.480 He just broke it down like some kind of a musicologist. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.200 And then at the end he says, I'm just so 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:40.360 thankful you send your music to me because Larry, the 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.240 world doesn't know what you're doing, but I know and 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.880 the world will know eventually you're leaving something important behind. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.960 And that to me, that's those are my Academy Awards 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.680 when I get that from people that I you know, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.880 Jody's among them, She's known for years, and she's always 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:03.240 and I remember resident of really got space. Really you 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.440 got me going again. You do that. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.120 I try and you I'm I like I always tell you, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.760 I love when you send me your music, your symphonies, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.880 your compositions. It's just you know, I I love art. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.400 I love it. I love creating. And it's something that 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.160 you and I have connected over and andret but like 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:29.360 just the love of expressing yourself and creating and like 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.600 connecting with other humans through what we get to do. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.040 And and you were one of those people who you 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:37.720 know and and I think people will hear it in 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:43.040 this interview who's so beautifully expressed what it means to 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.640 be a creative spirit in the world, in this in 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.760 this particular world and time. Beautiful And you do you 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.280 really like you are someone who I've always been able 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:58.600 to have really great, open, honest conversations about creating in 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.240 the world and that's that type of vulnerability. And and 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.680 and I and I never knew the story about you 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.480 walking off the stage and not playing for thirty years, 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:14.120 which is is incredible to me to hear because you're 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.600 so talented that it, you know. But I but I 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.600 also relate to that where you're like, oh, I suck, 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.320 that's it. I'm never doing that again. And you just 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.879 walk away from something and other people like, what are 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:28.480 you talking about? Yeah, yeah, we're our own worst critic. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.960 But but you have always been a yeah, exactly, well 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:37.840 for then, yeah, but you have always been so complimentary 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.760 and kind and supportive of us, and it just yeah, 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.119 it was so great to always see you, you know, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.879 out there on BCAM, knowing that we had like family 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.200 out there and and and deb and like these I 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.560 mean again people that have been around forever and ever 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:59.960 and ever and who were pivotal parts of our life 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.560 and of our you know, at least at least for me, 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:09.200 of of my sort of creative development, you know. So 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.639 that's those are things that are impossible to measure. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.920 Well, we have so many things that go on in 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.480 our life, and there's so much pashi and trash and 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.800 background noise, and you know, all that stuff that goes 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.800 on that we wish we could forget. Generally we do. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.480 But the nice thing is when you can look back 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.720 on your life and there's the color moments and and 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:37.720 Andrea and you you know, of course Bob bless his heart, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:43.320 and Candice was the color moments was a part of 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.840 my color palette of the Larry life, which I can't 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.240 express or explain to anybody, you know what I mean. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:57.040 And then there's the associated colors. Does the Patty pass Rellies, Yes, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.720 you know, and you know, you just go through and 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.879 you can kind of tell who they are. And and 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.119 I always felt that way about Lynn Griffin. I know, 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:12.280 she's a incredible she's retired also and incredible art director. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.320 She was amazing and just you know, just in of 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.639 course Greg. You know again, there's there's a sympatico and 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.880 that sympatico is really that is the correct word, sim 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:31.000 meaning with and pathos, the ability to feel right with 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:36.440 the same feeling. It's we're all aware that we can 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.840 all visually see slightly different shades with the same wavelength 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.040 coming into our eyes. So one person's blue and may 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.119 be more purple to than somebody else, depending on your 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:51.280 how your eyes are formed. But there's certain people that 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.240 all see that color that way. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.960 Yeah, M. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.879 So special. That's why you want to be on a 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.840 show like that. That's not going to work. That's getting 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.480 excited and going, Okay, I get five in the morning, 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.160 but I'll do it for this, right. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.359 Yeah, You're like, oh, it's you know, a long day, 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.199 early morning this, and then but then you get there, 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.800 You're like, ah, this is great. This is what am 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:17.080 I doing? 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:18.399 Pot of coffee and. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.840 Oh yes, I remember seeing you many a morning by 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.840 the buy the coffee machine. Absolutely yea. 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:29.000 But yeah, wow. 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.800 What were some of your favorite memories from Full House? 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.720 You know, Jodi and I were so young, and a 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.680 lot of our memories are coming back through this rewatch podcast. 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.440 The worst memory is that I wasn't on that show consistently. 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.280 I was always a replacement cameraman and I hated that. 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.760 And then I also did the DP work on the 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.800 the titles, right, you know, I did your titles usually 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.120 that kind of thing. So my association with Full House 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.560 wasn't as deep as I would have liked it to be. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.960 I probably shot at maybe a third of the episodes 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.760 for one reason or another. Somebody would leave, you know. 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.560 And I got along really well with Bruce. Bruce, by 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:21.440 the way, yes I remember, Yeah, he just passed away 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:22.320 a couple months ago. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.399 Oh, I you know, it was funny. 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.680 It's just ninetieth birthday by about twenty days. 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.639 Really. I just was looking at that I have, uh, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:35.120 you know, this photo collage thing from from the Full 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:36.920 House days. It was our I think ninety two or 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.680 ninety three season, and I look at it all the 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.280 time because there are so many faces in people. But 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.520 I saw I and I went, oh, what happened to Bruce? 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.240 Oh but wow, almost ninety that's incredible. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.240 Oh yeah, life, My biggest memory are the things that 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.719 really mattered to me a lot was of course Patty Passarelli, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.800 who was you know, a dear close friend supers Yep, yeah, she, 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:06.600 you know, the best always was. And and then you know, 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.000 I got along really well with Like I said, Bruce 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.440 is a great guy. Joe's Wick is probably my my brother. 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:13.560 He's my brother. Yeah. 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:15.960 Joel has been on the podcast. We had him on 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:16.960 a few weeks ago. 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.439 Ask you, I didn't know if you have definitely you. 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.520 We know, we definitely we had him on, and oh 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.480 he is I love Joel out of his mind still 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:30.600 in the best way. I love it. 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:31.640 It's exactly the same. 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:33.600 Yeah, Joel. 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:39.439 Joel is a very special He's He's the uber Regal, 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:44.399 Royal Blue, ultra violet, whatever you want to call it. 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.840 In my life, He's that part where your your your 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:51.359 top chakras trying to reach to the heavens and you 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.120 don't get there, but you got to go through Joel. 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:56.040 Yes, ye, yes, him. 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:01.040 I mean had moments believe me. Well I'm sure, yeah, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.240 they were all good, believe me. Yeah. 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.080 Well, it's the best friends that can you know, kind 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:07.639 of that can butt heads like that and then be 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.399 like all right, I still love you. You know, I 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:14.840 just love him to death again. Another like doing his 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:21.240 when we did his interview. Another just incredible creative spirit 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:28.040 and career and talent, and you know, we just part 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.399 of the fun of this podcast has not only been 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.320 going back and watching the show because I never watched it, 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.119 Andrey and I didn't really watch it growing up, but 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:41.160 it really has been getting to interview these amazing people 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.960 that we've known our whole lives as like you know, 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.240 just Joel or Larry or you know, like Lenny Rips 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.199 or you know, but then being like, so tell us 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:55.000 how you got into this and hearing oh the incredible stories, 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:59.800 but all of you like this, we were, and I 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.040 just I can't get over it. We were like steeped 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:10.639 in some of the most amazing, incredible history and people 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:15.200 of the television business from the start of Full House 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:19.280 and we didn't even know it. We just were lucky 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:20.400 that we got to do it again. 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.200 First story, I remember I was working on the Hogan 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.560 Family or was originally Valerie or Valerie's Family or I 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.440 don't remember where they had so many different names. 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.760